Awesome band. I think Ron Jarzombek used very similar compositional ideas to the ones on the video. I remember seeing a video of his really long ago where he explains it, and if I'm not mistaken, it was similar to this. Still, amazing band.
I've learned so much about applying theory to guitar by watching your videos. Just the other day I was trying to figure out how to reliably recreate that brutal tension some composers can do, and you happened to roll this out. Thank you!!
My first year of secondary school, our music teacher had us listening to Schoenberg and Stravinsky a few weeks into the first term. We were on Schaeffer and Stockhausen by the end of that year. We played him some Celtic Frost when Into The Pandemonium came out and he was really into it. Cool guy, he opened up a few minds
Scott, I have a suggestion: "The Devil's Staircase" by Ligeti. Maybe talk a little about this piece or other Ligeti's works in future videos! Terrifying stuff.
@@ShredmasterScott do it pussy! If you cant find the time and energy to arrange Ligeti for electric guitar no one's gonna believe you were really born in the year 666.
@@TheJML1975 Do you know "endless stairs" theme from Super Mario 64? Well, Koji Kondo ripped off Ligeti for that part of the game. Pierre-Laurent made an incredible interpretation here on youtube. This piece is incredibly dark, specially considering the composer's intention. A tormented soul in hell that finds a staircase that would lead this soul up to an exit. But as the soul starts running up the staircase, it realizes it has no end. It's a trick made by hell itself. You can run up the stairs for as long as you can, but you'll never get out. The piece ends suggesting that the soul lost it's hope escaping from hell, and gets engulfed by darkness.
Vinnie I was waiting to be shot down “how’s that sound like this” haha so that’s quite cool! And I haven’t played super mario 64 in a loooonnnngggg time. I’ll check it out now! And that’s a cool story thanks for sharing 😃👍🏻
I really love your video Shredmaster Scott, you're the only RUclipsr guiatarist who appreciates music theory from the baroque era, not like the other guitarist who are mindless of making music.
In order to fully appreciate the Schoenberg headbang part with the tormented looking lady on piano one should first smoke one large tube of extra strong super glue.
Seriously, your videos are a breath of fresh air. The amount of care and thought that go into them. Intellectual metal? I am so glad that I came across your channel. Always enjoy each video. Fantastic!
Really liking your channel man. Subscribed. Im in my first ever band and am really having trouble writing and composing. I have decent chops, timing, and technique but sometimes feel locked into these melodic death metal riffs (old in flames) and power chords. The other guitarist has a completely different style where he plays some very dissonant stuff and I would like to be able to throw together more unique passages
Скотт, я случайно увидел твой канал. Я немного понимаю английский и мало что понимаю в музыке. Но твоя подача зацепила. Классный материал! В России и на российских каналах на RUclips нет ничего подобного, поэтому учу английский, чтобы понимать всё, о чём ты рассказываешь. Жду новых видео! (Надеюсь, что ты переведешь это сообщение через переводчик Google))))
I’m on the verge of breaking down. I’m making terrible grades, I have to take a 10th grade biology class my senior year. I don’t know what I’m going to do with my life, it’s a horrible feeling but your videos make me happy. You’re funny af lol
Finally someone did it! I was experimenting with Shoemberg ideas applied to rock in the 90's, but this lesson really covered what is required to make metal serial music. Thanks Maestro Scott!
Tbh I’m not sure if there’s anything here to experiment with. It’s all 12 notes and inversions and retrograde melodic harmonies. It’s more like you’re saying you put 11 notes in and couldn’t figure out the 12th all the way back in the 90s. I really don’t see this being a “rock “ sound lol
I have been working on some crazy stuff , my goal not to sound like everyone else . Having a learning disability I only play by ear . Play notes of 5 and four notes in unison playing sour notes and making a rhythm out of it . Never use pick either all fingers. You inspire me to keep going and try to get it out there .
@Thravson Drakul Well Fibonacci was born 1170 and Bach was born 1685 so it would not surprise me If he had a premonition in the subject. And the sequence is all over the place in the works of Bach but also in Chopin and Beethoven and many more composers.
@Thravson Drakul For a example if you break down Bach work "Art of the Fugue" into number you can see that the sequence is a big part of it. But that just how nature works. And true art is always a reflection of nature.
@Thravson Drakul Bach was very found of the number 14 because is was the numerological values of his own name Bach. B2+A1+C3+H8=BACH14. It is also music. BACH is the note B flat-A-C-B. In some of the northern European countries like Germany the B is H and B is B flat. Schumann and Liszt did some variations on this concept. But there is a difference between a mathematician and a numerologist.
Yer a god, Scott. Or a demon. Videos like this are so informative and inspiring. I'm trying to break into film / media composing, and you're giving me so much to work with when I'm doing metal and horror stuff. Thanks!
The chords for name that chord I believe are: Either A# half diminished minor 7 D whole diminished 6/9 E half diminished minor 7 Or G# whole diminished 6/9
Ah, yes! 12 tone rows ...well fuck, I guess I shouldn't be surprised this made it into your music theory sessions! Very well explained and equally demonstrated. Thank you for making music theory so much more fun. Every day is a school day ;-) :-)
because i got a job far from people (patagonia, look for it shred, you'll shit your pants here!!), cant watch the videos as soon as you upload them, anyway, i brought my axe with me dude!! cheers from the cold Torres del Paine, shred till you get frozen
Shred -Fucking rad channel and great episode. I don't know any metal or hard rock guitarists who are down w/ Modernist Classical, except me. I think rock died, because it ran out of ideas -it should have embraced modernism. It's a bottomless pit of inspiration. Out of the 12 tone, I derived the A-holian Mode. I bet this vid took longer than any of your others. I am shit at sight reading. I would have had to memorize it. all. 2:22 Down a 6th, up a 3rd isn't it?
I love riffs like this. Use an online random generator to create the string of 12 notes randomized, and use those numbers as tabs. I've come up with some great doom metal riffs using this method.
Can you do a video about creepy circus music??I have searched and find that the main concept is about using 2/4 3/4 stacking minor chords diminished and anything that has dissonance.But i still dont exactly get it....
I did this in college. For my 12 tone row I put every note on a separate piece of paper and threw it in the air. I did it a few times to get a nice sounding 12 tone row, then composed with it using said techniques. It was dark. Then I had a Orchestra do it and I shredded a guitar solo in the middle, only because guitar is NEVER in the orchestra. It was epic, at least in my mind. True Story
“Any musician who has not experienced - I do not say understood, but truly experienced - the necessity of dodecaphonic music is USELESS. For his whole work is irrelevant to the needs of his epoch.” -Pierre Boulez
Honestly could not hear the inversions or retrograde until they got played as chords. Which makes me think you could play them all as one long piece (like in the doom metal style) before switching up the rythem and going into the chords for a simple style shift while keeping it all the same. Also love that doom metal sound, keep feeling like there's gonna be a blues rift afterwards (I've been listening to under the Sun a lot lately).
Blotted Science, anyone? I think the guitarist (whose name I can't remember right now, probably because it's got way too many consonants ALA the Slavic world) has his own system of breaking down the 12 tones into smaller groupings he uses for riffing etc, but it's definitely based on 12-tone serialism and the end-result sounds pretty similar. Also, I once wrote a 14-second grind song based on a 12-tone series because I found the marriage of absolute theory insanity and the expectation of zero theory being behind grindcore hilarious, especially since the result is practically the same.
Shredmaster Scott has convinced me to dust off my old guitar and start learning music theory. This channel is killer.
Mr Tiger right?! and he’s got jokes haha
Did that to me about 3 months ago. He's a motivator.
Shredmaster Scott has convinced me to try to learn more than power chords and Smooth by Santana
Sounds like Blotted Science
Ahh, another man of culture beat me to the punch.
Love blotted science and conquering dystopia
Awesome band. I think Ron Jarzombek used very similar compositional ideas to the ones on the video. I remember seeing a video of his really long ago where he explains it, and if I'm not mistaken, it was similar to this. Still, amazing band.
Anyone else click for "Satanic"
Have fun on judgement day.
I’m a simple girl, I see satan, I click
@@ehodgkins8197 o.o
@@TeleCaster66 Duh nuh, nuh nuh
jesus is dead
I've learned so much about applying theory to guitar by watching your videos. Just the other day I was trying to figure out how to reliably recreate that brutal tension some composers can do, and you happened to roll this out. Thank you!!
enjoy the dissonance brother
"No one will love you and you will die alone."
Already mastered that without the help of Schoenberg.
My first year of secondary school, our music teacher had us listening to Schoenberg and Stravinsky a few weeks into the first term. We were on Schaeffer and Stockhausen by the end of that year.
We played him some Celtic Frost when Into The Pandemonium came out and he was really into it.
Cool guy, he opened up a few minds
Scott, I have a suggestion: "The Devil's Staircase" by Ligeti. Maybe talk a little about this piece or other Ligeti's works in future videos! Terrifying stuff.
haha, that'd be nuts dude!
@@ShredmasterScott do it pussy! If you cant find the time and energy to arrange Ligeti for electric guitar no one's gonna believe you were really born in the year 666.
Vinnie ohhh never heard of that before! Made me think of the “underworld theme” from super mario 3 haha 🤣🤣🤣
@@TheJML1975 Do you know "endless stairs" theme from Super Mario 64? Well, Koji Kondo ripped off Ligeti for that part of the game. Pierre-Laurent made an incredible interpretation here on youtube. This piece is incredibly dark, specially considering the composer's intention. A tormented soul in hell that finds a staircase that would lead this soul up to an exit. But as the soul starts running up the staircase, it realizes it has no end. It's a trick made by hell itself. You can run up the stairs for as long as you can, but you'll never get out. The piece ends suggesting that the soul lost it's hope escaping from hell, and gets engulfed by darkness.
Vinnie I was waiting to be shot down “how’s that sound like this” haha so that’s quite cool! And I haven’t played super mario 64 in a loooonnnngggg time. I’ll check it out now! And that’s a cool story thanks for sharing 😃👍🏻
I really love your video Shredmaster Scott, you're the only RUclipsr guiatarist who appreciates music theory from the baroque era, not like the other guitarist who are mindless of making music.
Dude your videos actually make me laugh from the bottom of my gut man. The style the editing the goofing around. I love it. Please keep making more.
it shall be done
5:14 sounds like Stream of Consciousness by Dream Theater
Necrochromatic scales. 🤘🏻🤨🤘🏻
that's well said
In order to fully appreciate the Schoenberg headbang part with the tormented looking lady on piano one should first smoke one large tube of extra strong super glue.
The best guitar channel on RUclips. Thanks dude!!!
DUDE!!! Iv been searching FOREVER for something like this. Its perfect, thank you!!!
You're welcome
Seriously, your videos are a breath of fresh air. The amount of care and thought that go into them. Intellectual metal? I am so glad that I came across your channel. Always enjoy each video. Fantastic!
Thanks brother, appreciate you 🤘☠️🎼
WoW! Never knew what you could get out of the chromatic scale. Very impressive.
You are exactly who I've been looking for to get me to that next level. These videos are amazing. Rock on!
This lesson really taught me very well that,..i'm ENLIGHTENED at the very darkside of music. More power shred, MABUHAY!!!!
This is your best video yet. Humor and real talk, it's great you put yourself out on the interwebs doing what you love. Keep it up!
Thanks brother, I think I saw you at the Premiere
This channel is pure gold.....subscribed...
Man you are the best metal/music teacher ever
appreciate you brother
Really liking your channel man. Subscribed. Im in my first ever band and am really having trouble writing and composing. I have decent chops, timing, and technique but sometimes feel locked into these melodic death metal riffs (old in flames) and power chords.
The other guitarist has a completely different style where he plays some very dissonant stuff and I would like to be able to throw together more unique passages
john petrucci wants to know your location.2nd guitarist spot from dream theater available
Скотт, я случайно увидел твой канал. Я немного понимаю английский и мало что понимаю в музыке. Но твоя подача зацепила. Классный материал! В России и на российских каналах на RUclips нет ничего подобного, поэтому учу английский, чтобы понимать всё, о чём ты рассказываешь. Жду новых видео! (Надеюсь, что ты переведешь это сообщение через переводчик Google))))
Sounds like something scar symmetry do a lot of! Cool video. Gives me lots of ideas
“Lower your fucks” ROFLMAO. Ouch! exacerbates my internal bleeding of my guts. Now that’s gutsy!
I’m on the verge of breaking down. I’m making terrible grades, I have to take a 10th grade biology class my senior year. I don’t know what I’m going to do with my life, it’s a horrible feeling but your videos make me happy. You’re funny af lol
Finally someone did it! I was experimenting with Shoemberg ideas applied to rock in the 90's, but this lesson really covered what is required to make metal serial music. Thanks Maestro Scott!
You got it brother. A match made in hell for sure
@@ShredmasterScott ha ha haaa...
Tbh I’m not sure if there’s anything here to experiment with. It’s all 12 notes and inversions and retrograde melodic harmonies. It’s more like you’re saying you put 11 notes in and couldn’t figure out the 12th all the way back in the 90s.
I really don’t see this being a “rock “ sound lol
Is this how slayer writes solos?
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU
would clear up a lot
Love you dude I'm not a great guitarist but I love writing and making music and this helps alot
I have been working on some crazy stuff , my goal not to sound like everyone else .
Having a learning disability I only play by ear .
Play notes of 5 and four notes in unison playing sour notes and making a rhythm out of it .
Never use pick either all fingers.
You inspire me to keep going and try to get it out there .
"I play the notes as they are written, but it is God who makes the music."
Johann Sebastian Bach
God and Bach's mathematical formulas. B was huge into mathematical symmetry
@Thravson Drakul Well Fibonacci was born 1170 and Bach was born 1685 so it would not surprise me If he had a premonition in the subject. And the sequence is all over the place in the works of Bach but also in Chopin and Beethoven and many more composers.
@Thravson Drakul For a example if you break down Bach work "Art of the Fugue" into number you can see that the sequence is a big part of it. But that just how nature works. And true art is always a reflection of nature.
@Thravson Drakul Bach was very found of the number 14 because is was the numerological values of his own name Bach. B2+A1+C3+H8=BACH14. It is also music. BACH is the note B flat-A-C-B. In some of the northern European countries like Germany the B is H and B is B flat. Schumann and Liszt did some variations on this concept. But there is a difference between a mathematician and a numerologist.
"I play the notes as they are written, but it is Satan who makes the music."
-Shredmaster Scott
Yer a god, Scott. Or a demon. Videos like this are so informative and inspiring. I'm trying to break into film / media composing, and you're giving me so much to work with when I'm doing metal and horror stuff. Thanks!
I’m loving the daily Instagram quizzes. Especially,when I haven’t used theory in years.
Best vid yet! Really dig atonal metal.
Dude you're a genius....I'm glad i subscribed to your channel....because i need serious help
The chords for name that chord I believe are:
Either
A# half diminished minor 7
D whole diminished 6/9
E half diminished minor 7
Or
G# whole diminished 6/9
“Lots of good Satan happening when you bAcK iT uP!”
Damn straight the devil wants you to back it up!
Reminds me of Blotted Science a little bit.
HOLLLYYYE SHITTTTT
THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO EVERRR
PLZ MAKE ATONAL METAL FOREVER :DD
Great shit man. The theory angle is working. Interesting knowledge has been shared.
Yeah boi!! Great video man
Ah, yes! 12 tone rows ...well fuck, I guess I shouldn't be surprised this made it into your music theory sessions! Very well explained and equally demonstrated. Thank you for making music theory so much more fun. Every day is a school day ;-) :-)
4:06
Jazz harmony level 6 anyone?
One of the greatest videos I've ever seen Shred!
thanks brother, you the man 🤘
@@ShredmasterScott imho the coolest music video was "How would Bach play Cannibal Corpse"
because i got a job far from people (patagonia, look for it shred, you'll shit your pants here!!), cant watch the videos as soon as you upload them, anyway, i brought my axe with me dude!! cheers from the cold Torres del Paine, shred till you get frozen
So glad I found your channel
hell yeah Shred; the syncopated arrangement really made me think of Devin Townsend's Deconstruciton album.
I can hear that
Modern day shredder refuses to die.
Shred -Fucking rad channel and great episode. I don't know any metal or hard rock guitarists who are down w/ Modernist Classical, except me. I think rock died, because it ran out of ideas -it should have embraced modernism. It's a bottomless pit of inspiration. Out of the 12 tone, I derived the A-holian Mode. I bet this vid took longer than any of your others. I am shit at sight reading. I would have had to memorize it. all. 2:22 Down a 6th, up a 3rd isn't it?
I love riffs like this. Use an online random generator to create the string of 12 notes randomized, and use those numbers as tabs. I've come up with some great doom metal riffs using this method.
You like how this sounds, me too, Ron Jarzombek
I'm impressed you can even spell his name lol .
Dudes a beast though and him and Alex Webster together = black gold
Awesome channel, very valueable info
You are awesome my dude
Can you do a video about creepy circus music??I have searched and find that the main concept is about using 2/4 3/4 stacking minor chords diminished and anything that has dissonance.But i still dont exactly get it....
I did this in college. For my 12 tone row I put every note on a separate piece of paper and threw it in the air. I did it a few times to get a nice sounding 12 tone row, then composed with it using said techniques. It was dark. Then I had a Orchestra do it and I shredded a guitar solo in the middle, only because guitar is NEVER in the orchestra. It was epic, at least in my mind. True Story
"Music is an agreeable harmony for the honor of God and the permissible delights of the soul."
Johann Sebastian Bach
“Any musician who has not experienced - I do not say understood, but truly experienced - the necessity of dodecaphonic music is USELESS. For his whole work is irrelevant to the needs of his epoch.” -Pierre Boulez
@@padraicfanning7055 “My faith is the grand drama of my life. I’m a believer, so I sing words of God to those who have no faith.”
Olivier Messiaen
Yes we can, yes we can, yes we can!
I used to learn mine and other riffs backwards but never inverted, ill try it!
I’m the 1k like! Keep it up love the videos
Hey Man, that sounds awesome, do something Evil for Halloween. By the way,this sounds excellent. Cheers from México.
That evil laugh was a killer tho!
Right on, Shred.....
Quality stuff as always.
Scottmaster Shred,
Thank you for sharing thine occult knowledge.
Praise Thee, Satan, Dark Lord of Wonders!
ShemHamPhorash !
Amazing video. This stuff is very useful. Thank you.
enjoy brother
“Eleven level” reminded me of Cacophony
Nice, a new way to sound unsettling. Now I can stop over using the tritone...nah just kidding I'll never stop doing that, but this is cool too!
Ultra wicked... Woah dude...
in his other video he said 'For God's Sake' VERY BLASPHEMOUS
You write such sick riffs
thanks brother
Honestly could not hear the inversions or retrograde until they got played as chords. Which makes me think you could play them all as one long piece (like in the doom metal style) before switching up the rythem and going into the chords for a simple style shift while keeping it all the same.
Also love that doom metal sound, keep feeling like there's gonna be a blues rift afterwards (I've been listening to under the Sun a lot lately).
Dam ! that sounds bad-ass.love it,i can almost smell the brimstone....
I really enjoy your videos
thank you brother
Dude can you please make an entire album with songs like this
I've dreaded music theory, but I've got to do it. Thankfully Shred is here to make it not as daunting.
you got this brother
That laugh ..... following “Satanic sonic sorcery” is scary berry
Really impressive!!!
This was an awesome satanic metal trick
I should jump on Udemy and get a course from ole Scott
Dude, I want that guitar in the thumbnail.
Yeah! I’m also more into composition : )
nice brother 🤘
Fun fact the dude in the left corner of the thumbnail with the guitar is Varg Vikernes.
Definitely getting some Zappa vibes from this
Yep. That’s King Crimson right there.
Yes, never been this early! Yo, Shredmaster Scott, can I get a heart?
Shredmaster Scott - home to evil sounds since 666.
It sounds like once upon a time Frank Zappa and Ron Jarzombek decided to create a band. So, it’s awesome!
Sounds like General Surgery
Blotted Science, anyone? I think the guitarist (whose name I can't remember right now, probably because it's got way too many consonants ALA the Slavic world) has his own system of breaking down the 12 tones into smaller groupings he uses for riffing etc, but it's definitely based on 12-tone serialism and the end-result sounds pretty similar.
Also, I once wrote a 14-second grind song based on a 12-tone series because I found the marriage of absolute theory insanity and the expectation of zero theory being behind grindcore hilarious, especially since the result is practically the same.
Yeah i was about to mention him Ron Jarzombek
The Doom Metal progression reminds me of the Batman Beyond theme.
sound like one of the song written by king crimson from the construction of the light called fracktured
Your satanic summoning at the end wake up my Google Assistant, no jokes
*whua-ha-ha-ha-haa* That's the way I like it
this was a great video.
ykw, i'm gonna try this for some space rock i've been workin on
Imagine the impact shred Master Scott would have made if he was around in the 40s.
0:51 What piece is this?
Another cool video. I’d like to take theory lessons from you,, but without Satan present !! Ha ha ha ha haaaaa!!! You said some profound stuff .
I have played guitar for 17 years and decided to learn theory recently.... I have come to the conclusion that I am an idiot.
1:39 very evil year
Im gotta talk to that 1 dislike and ask him what's wrong exacly
I watched this for entertainment, thinking it would just be typical stuff. Pretty informative though. Subscribed
Cheers Cliff, next video will be a total brain buster