Hey dude, moakalatte here (moak-a-latte, like "mocha-latte"). First of all, thanks for checking out this video. As someone in the comments noted, this was a part of a series of Masterclasses in a collaboration between the Academy of Contemporary Music (ACM) in UK and Radar festival. AAL were playing Radar and Tosin came in and did this masterclass. I was tasked with shooting and editing it as part of my role working at ACM, and I (obvs) jumped at the chance being a fellow guitarist. As most things like this go, we had little prep time, one static cam and one roaming cam and an issue with the audio that was recorded which is why it sounds a bit like there's an echo on his voice and the backing/original track he was playing along to was a little too high in the mix. Anyway, I had to wait at least a year before I could share this, and I honestly thought that I'd get a request to take it down, but so happy that it's reached so many guitarists and has helped them out. Tosin's technique is killer, his clinic was super chill and informative, and he was a great chap to hang out with and chat to. Glad you like the video, there's a Rabea Massaad masterclass video on my channel, too. 🤟🏻
@@anddataforall Sure, but it's still funny when a member of a band that is basically a living meme of hyper fast tech death freaks out about another musician playing quickly. It's not about comparing them or being surprised that other fast guitarists exist, it's just an amusing reminder that even at his skill level Dean is just a human too and can still be impressed at how talented other humans are.
@@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power I never have to worry about gift wrapping 'cause majority of the time I just give people money as a present or have it mailed to them
Burrito wrapping is easy. Put your contents in a line on the tortilla, take one end of the tortilla where the line is, fold it inside, the grab the outsides and fold them inwards. Probably harder to read than it is to see it visually but I promise you it's a gamechanger
Dean you're the man! One of the best fastest metal guitarist out there and just a real dude learning off others not thinking or acting like you're the man when you are! Makes you so much cooler dude. I love this channel and your videos keep it up!! No edits and so raw and brootal it's awesome
I had the same thought. I think delay (and to perhaps a slightly lesser extent, reverb) really does not gel well with that technique because it's all about the staccato notes.
Tosin was the person who got my family to respect what I did and listened to. Before showing them Tosin all I listened to was "devils music" and "noise". Which I was raised on Dillinger and Converge so, fair. But when they heard Tosin and showed them who Tosin inspired and who looked up to him, they finally relented. They were raised on all the stereotypical rock guitar legends. And when they saw all them say, "Yeah, Tosin is in another league." They shut up about my music.
@@filipeventura2729 Tosin and his bandmates have so much out there, do you mean specifically AAL? i feel like every metalhead or prog nerd just hasn't found the album they like/think is listenable the first time through. Javier has Mestis and other solo work, TRAM is incredible and timeless, Garstka's projects with Casimir Liberski and Joshua De La Victoria are all insane. if you heard only CAFO and went "nah this isn't for me" i get it but there's so many different eras to explore
@@KaiderKiller water isn't wet. things are wet when they're saturated with water. something can't be saturated with itself. if you think water is wet you're gonna wake up one day feelin silly and you'll be like, hey taht guy on youtube was right xd
Tosin is insane. He's created such a unique voice on the instrument, it reminds me of when I heard Steve Vai as a kid. Also for the tone - you mentioned you weren't getting the same percussive quality that Tosin is - think less distorted/OD tone and more clean/comp on the signal instead. It'll give you that 'thunk' sound in your hammer ons and popping and help the process along. But the techniques are insane. I can't do any of them really effectively yet, but I really dig the selective picking best.
Every now and then I get complacent watching Dean and lean into that "he's just like one of us!" as he's gushing over Tosin (or any other guitarist) playing, and then 19:28 happens and I'm like "oh, right - Dean is also actually a monster."
17:07 i LOVE this. seeing dean realising that he wrote a sick melody and then replaying it, figuring it out and enjoying it. this has been such a wholesome and interesting video
@rhinoboger6784 if I recall, he's the studio bassist for Entheos. Just doesn't tour with them. Could be wrong, but I remember him doing the bass for their last record (not sure about the most recent EP).
Position 2 on Abasi guitars is similar to position 3 on Kiesels: split (inner) coil neck + bridge and kind of mimics a Tele position 2. They use a Schaller megaswitch set up for: 1) bridge humbucking, 2) s coil inner bridge and neck, 3) both humbuckers, 4) neck single coil (neck side), 5) neck humbucker.
Those Swybrid clean parts were really cool, i think as you said due to the Fishmans , it might be a Single coil mode that's on the pickup itself, with zero noise due to the pickup/active design , Tosin's a monster player in any case
Tosin is so sick. I saw him when he was in Reflux twice in the 2000s. This was before he went to school. He was great at technical metal stuff back then but it was more riffs based. It's really cool to see what a legend he has become.
He says " did bro just play bleed with his thumb"? 😂😂 in all honesty that was INSANE. Hard not love Tosin. Love how positively different his style is and what he will inevitably inspire future players to reach for.
This content has been so helpful Dean, as an intermediate guitarist getting your pov on these techniques and ideas that feel out of reach makes it so much more digestible. Stay Tech
I dont know if Tosin mentioned it in this video but when your're doing groups of 4 and more (where u involve more then just index finger) u should start from the farther finger to you. ex- grups of 4 should be picked: thump down, thump up, mid finger, index finger. This motion is much more effective. Also visualize your fingers getting thru the strings and not picking on them
For those that want to know: This was a clinic for RADAR Festival in 2019. Afterwards we all got to hang out with him, get pics and try the guitar from the video, great way to spend an afternoon.
A potential reason why you don't have the snappiness when thumbing is because you don't apply enough pressure and release it properly at tempo. Slow you are getting it but as soon as you pick up speed, your thumbing becomes shallow as you relax more. Same with the selective picking, if you really pay close attention to Tosins right hand, he picks like a classical guitarist would pluck a string. We use pressure on the string to create dynamics, not velocity, and that doesn't change with speed. So maybe applying classical plucking technique to your picking can transform your sound and get that thick tone just as Tosins but at super fast tempos🎸🎸🎸 Just a perspective from a classical guitarist. Hope that helps as AAL are just amazing
Hey Dean! You've asked multiple times in the video that how is Tosin's playing is so clean. Well, besides the human factor, there are some things you can change actually. Your technique looks good, but the circumstances could be improved (which would instantly improve your technique as a byproduct). Here are some things you should try: 1. Turn off the delay and turn down the reverb too. 2. Go for an edge of break up sound, rather than a full on distortion. 3. I think you've used like a solo sound here, which is quite mid heavy. For the slap sound you basically need the opposite, a scooped one. I'd start back rolling back the mids a bit then dial in the highs, as the highs give you the most feedback of your playing with this style. Then I'd go for the lows to have the "thump" behind it, then you go back to the mids and find the sweetspot. 4. Depending on the amp (sim) you may sprinkle some clean OD or compression at the beginning of the chain to get the right touch sensitivity, and you should sound pretty close.
anytime you post a video related to animals as leaders im here. lol. it's cool to see you play those styles that aren't normally what you'd play with archspire. i love both of course, but it's sick to see you grasp those concepts. youre too talented man lol. i really enjoyed back when you tried learning that chon song as well, same kinda idea. different styles, but sounds SUPER cool
Gotta love when I see comments of people saying thumping isn't that hard and Tosin is overhyped, then watch Dean Lamb absolutely struggling and being blown away by how good Tosin is.
I’ve been working on this for about a month now…. I’m glad to see someone of your skill level in the beginning stages along with me. Come on hypothetical future.
Great video! One awesome tip is to thump and pluck the strings with minimum force, you don't need to hit the strings hard at all, in fact that would slow you down. Obviously a compressor helps with this
Dean with some Tosin is what the world needs rn. That riff at 10:51 reminded me of the song Terran from Fury 3. Now I need to hear a metal version of it!
I remember seeing Archspire with Vulvodynia and Kris does alot of that thumping stuff. I’m glad more of the extreme metal bands are integrating it into their sound
6:14 biggest dosage of euphoria I've had in a long time. You're pretty much 20 years ahead of me as far as skill and practice goes. But seeing you blank out on that was really funny to me 😂
You got this, man! I’d love to hear some of this technique in an Archspire song. Archspire is one of the greats! Love your music. Keep up the hard work!
Not sure if you’ve already thought of this but he probably also a good callous build up on his thumb which helps get the tone. I know bass players for sure know calloused fingers help a punchy articulate tone
Great vid. Regarding the 9:00 ish mark, remember the rubber band technique he mentioned earlier. He's pulling and pushing the string, like a bend, and then releasing it. That's what's giving him that power. ...at least I think that's how to describe it.
Tosin did a guitar clinic at Verns here in calgary once a long time ago for the last Noctis festival. It was just as mind blowing then as it is now. And this is over ten years later so he's gotten THAT much better. Very cool to see. (He was a super nice dude too by the way!)
DEAN you can't have delay an verb smacking back during his bleed little ditty....has to be clean distortion. but Fishman actives have profiles totally different than a split on a passive but several options
Geat, now Dean is gonna incorporate this shit into the next Archspire album and I'll be even farther away from ever being able to play any of their songs lol saw you guys live in Tampa by the way, sick show! I got a video on my phone of the dude in the banana suit getting lifted up to kiss the disco ball on the ceiling and shit lol it was a good time
Tosin has the right hand attack equivalent to the one inch punch. Barely looks like he's moving, but it sounds like the strings are getting hit by a hammer. I think it has to do with his thumb. Like SPECIFICALLY his thumb. Dean, yours is a lot closer to his than mine is. I'd love to see this developed/experimented with a bit more tbh.
I've found that especially with thumping and selective picking that compression is super important. Usually running a slow attack and fast release. It gets that percussive quality and thats why even though he is on split coil he is getting that slappy in your face type tone even with very little gain on the amp.
12:27 - Those notes hit ya right in the gooch lol found your channel recently after the auditions and very glad I did. Cheers my friend 👍 *Also, very cool to hear some potential new beginnings of an ASS, (ArchSpire Song). That riff was sick 👌 gotta be a keeper.
Just to help you out a bit that pickup selection on the abasi concepts is both the bridge and neck split together so use them both together and you’ll get better attack and definition when thumping!! That position 2 is what he uses for selective picking and thumping and leads but he will switch to the neck pickup mid solo which is steezy lol idk how people just casually mid riffing switch fluidly
Watched him (animals as leaders) and Plini last night at the Commodore Ballroom here in Vancouver BC. Him and Javier Reyes are the perfect duo playing in a band. Ridiculous talent
Hey Dean! You mentioned the tone a few times and not quite having the same slap. For the thumping, a little bit of it is in the wrist slap, but overall, he has lighter gauge strings 74 on the 8th and somewhere around a 58 on the 7th. I'm not sure what gauge you use, but the lighter strings definitely slap better!
His explanation of "not getting it for months then suddenly clicking" reminds me of how techniques felt as a beginner, or learning them from scratch. Alternate picking was hell for a long time until the practice and time made it click. Same with sweeping. His thumping is just such an unintuitive way of playing compared to what we're used to that the learning curve seems steeper.It's crazy how the attack is so consistent across all his fingers
That second sweep picking technique is so fascinating. While sweep picking its all your fretboard hand, while the other method is all your playing hand #Intriguing
You may need to lower your strings or raise your pickups to get the poppiness you're looking for. If you notice how close his strings are to his pickups. He has very low action.
In terms of the thumping stuff Ando san is really underrated for it. Mad the technique his own and applies it to a different style of music super well. If you like the sound of the technique he's definitely one to check out.
Something that's so interesting to me about Towson is just how obvious it is that he is absolutely brilliant when he speaks. When he talks you can see him dumbing things down in real time for us all. LOL Reminds me of Carl Sagan trying to explain complicated concepts.
That right angle knuckled giant thumb probably helps, also pretty sure Victor Wooten pioneered this style years back and Tosin was able to apply it well to the guitar
I met Tosin after a concert in Austin years ago. Really cool dude. Very humble. I was drunk as fuck and star struck…all I could muster is “Hey, I love you. What are you currently reading?” Lmao Fun times.
i've been trying to learn stabwound recently and the alt picking gave me some ideas on how to speed up the harder string skipping sections of the song, its really interesting
Check out Tuck Andress on double thumb technique. He's probably the first pioneers. Check the end of the song Europa or Everything's Gonna Be Alright. Note that he often plays multiple parts simultaneously.
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Hey dude, moakalatte here (moak-a-latte, like "mocha-latte"). First of all, thanks for checking out this video. As someone in the comments noted, this was a part of a series of Masterclasses in a collaboration between the Academy of Contemporary Music (ACM) in UK and Radar festival. AAL were playing Radar and Tosin came in and did this masterclass.
I was tasked with shooting and editing it as part of my role working at ACM, and I (obvs) jumped at the chance being a fellow guitarist. As most things like this go, we had little prep time, one static cam and one roaming cam and an issue with the audio that was recorded which is why it sounds a bit like there's an echo on his voice and the backing/original track he was playing along to was a little too high in the mix.
Anyway, I had to wait at least a year before I could share this, and I honestly thought that I'd get a request to take it down, but so happy that it's reached so many guitarists and has helped them out. Tosin's technique is killer, his clinic was super chill and informative, and he was a great chap to hang out with and chat to.
Glad you like the video, there's a Rabea Massaad masterclass video on my channel, too. 🤟🏻
Thanks for the info, and for the video! Sounds like a pretty amazing experience!
thanks for the video 🙏 I went to ACM waay back when (2007) , great place
This is the content that made youtube. Thanks for this amazing contribution!
i love all things guitar thanks for this
Cheers for sharing mate
“Oh my god he’s going so fast”
- a literal archspire band member
in Deans mouth that have to means something!
@@kamiljastrzab7784 i think you guys don't listen to animals as leaders so often then. They have compositions as complex and as fast as archspire's.
welcome to our world watching Dean!
@@anddataforall Sure, but it's still funny when a member of a band that is basically a living meme of hyper fast tech death freaks out about another musician playing quickly. It's not about comparing them or being surprised that other fast guitarists exist, it's just an amusing reminder that even at his skill level Dean is just a human too and can still be impressed at how talented other humans are.
@@anddataforall you missed the point of the joke.
My three favorite guitarists! Tosin Abasi’s left hand, Tosin Abasi’s right hand, and Dean Lamb!
You completely missed the chance to say Dean's lamb
I'm dead hahahhaa
@@gabegartzia3290 meh
😂😂😂
Please dont forget tosin abasi's thumb
Casually thumping 2 bars of Bleed is the epitome of a light Tosin flex
Well it might be easier than regular tremelo picking it
@@zzzzzz69 if you're equally good at tremolo picking as you are with thumping, it probably is. Doubt there are many people like that around tho
Not only is he a phenomenal guitarist, he also has killer style.
What a guy.
Thanks man! 💅
@@DeanLamb lmao dean you know the cenobites have no style
Two things I feel like I could become immortal and still never learn how to do:
1. Properly fold a burrito
2. Thump
3. Wrap clean Christmas gifts 🎁
@@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power I never have to worry about gift wrapping 'cause majority of the time I just give people money as a present or have it mailed to them
Burrito wrapping is easy. Put your contents in a line on the tortilla, take one end of the tortilla where the line is, fold it inside, the grab the outsides and fold them inwards. Probably harder to read than it is to see it visually but I promise you it's a gamechanger
@@gorgami29 Instructions unclear, dick stuck in burrito
remembering to cancel subscriptions to shit before the 2nd month hits
yk when you have dean lamb making terrified faces, you’re in the top echelon of guitarists
Dean you're the man! One of the best fastest metal guitarist out there and just a real dude learning off others not thinking or acting like you're the man when you are! Makes you so much cooler dude. I love this channel and your videos keep it up!! No edits and so raw and brootal it's awesome
Thanks!
Maybe try to get him on the channel for a “lesson” like you’ve done with some others?
This would be incredible. I’m not even a guitarist and I would no doubt watch that multiple times.
even Tim Henson said he had to take Private lessons from Tosin and and to just focus Thumping for a month straight to get down
I went to the same school when he did. It's pretty surreal seeing him become one of the best players I listen to.
Your swybrid sweeps so unbelievably cool!!!!!!
For sure 👍...I've been checking out Charles Caswell in Berried Alive, his swybrid sweeps are really good along with a bunch of his other skillz
Yep - absolutely insane
10:17 that On Impulse riff is soooooo sooothing.
If you want to nail this….I suggest you get rid of any delay.
I had the same thought. I think delay (and to perhaps a slightly lesser extent, reverb) really does not gel well with that technique because it's all about the staccato notes.
Could time the Delay to enhance these techniques
@@infinidominion Possibly, but getting the technique down solidly first is more important.
@@infinidominion could be a good idea, but IMO only after you have master the technique.
And every other effect as well. Learning with clean sound is the best way to avoid learning bad habits and small technical mistakes
10:26 On Impulse in my favorite one. THE DIAMOND RAIN, MAN!
Tosin was the person who got my family to respect what I did and listened to. Before showing them Tosin all I listened to was "devils music" and "noise". Which I was raised on Dillinger and Converge so, fair. But when they heard Tosin and showed them who Tosin inspired and who looked up to him, they finally relented. They were raised on all the stereotypical rock guitar legends. And when they saw all them say, "Yeah, Tosin is in another league." They shut up about my music.
Maybe show them Onieler for context of what devil music is 😂 She's haunting, especially when doing Dictious Te Necare stuff
My dad grew up on music like Sabbath, Rush, and Hendrix. Only music he heard me listen to that he wanted to listen to was AAL’s first album.
@@ThyAsianMan On Impulse is the best.
Tosin has to be one of the most skilled players alive.
not a big fan of his music but id say -of all time!
Water has to be one of the wettest compounds on earth.
He spent like ten years watching VHS guitar lessons, you can too!
@@filipeventura2729 Tosin and his bandmates have so much out there, do you mean specifically AAL?
i feel like every metalhead or prog nerd just hasn't found the album they like/think is listenable the first time through. Javier has Mestis and other solo work, TRAM is incredible and timeless, Garstka's projects with Casimir Liberski and Joshua De La Victoria are all insane.
if you heard only CAFO and went "nah this isn't for me" i get it but there's so many different eras to explore
@@KaiderKiller water isn't wet. things are wet when they're saturated with water. something can't be saturated with itself. if you think water is wet you're gonna wake up one day feelin silly and you'll be like, hey taht guy on youtube was right xd
Tosin is insane. He's created such a unique voice on the instrument, it reminds me of when I heard Steve Vai as a kid.
Also for the tone - you mentioned you weren't getting the same percussive quality that Tosin is - think less distorted/OD tone and more clean/comp on the signal instead. It'll give you that 'thunk' sound in your hammer ons and popping and help the process along. But the techniques are insane. I can't do any of them really effectively yet, but I really dig the selective picking best.
Every now and then I get complacent watching Dean and lean into that "he's just like one of us!" as he's gushing over Tosin (or any other guitarist) playing, and then 19:28 happens and I'm like "oh, right - Dean is also actually a monster."
17:07 i LOVE this. seeing dean realising that he wrote a sick melody and then replaying it, figuring it out and enjoying it.
this has been such a wholesome and interesting video
That friend he is talking about is Evan Brewer
A beast in his own right
Miss him in Entheos guy is an absolute powerhouse of a bassist
Who learned it from victor wootens brother
@rhinoboger6784 if I recall, he's the studio bassist for Entheos. Just doesn't tour with them. Could be wrong, but I remember him doing the bass for their last record (not sure about the most recent EP).
@@fromdepthswerise3024 He also recorded the bass for Fallujah’s most recent album: Empyrean.
Position 2 on Abasi guitars is similar to position 3 on Kiesels: split (inner) coil neck + bridge and kind of mimics a Tele position 2. They use a Schaller megaswitch set up for: 1) bridge humbucking, 2) s coil inner bridge and neck, 3) both humbuckers, 4) neck single coil (neck side), 5) neck humbucker.
09:38 "if this was America you'd know chickin' pickin'" 😅👌
Those Swybrid clean parts were really cool, i think as you said due to the Fishmans , it might be a Single coil mode that's on the pickup itself, with zero noise due to the pickup/active design , Tosin's a monster player in any case
Tosin is an alien. Dean plays something, I can see it being possible with dedication and practice. Tosin is just like a robot
Tosin is so sick. I saw him when he was in Reflux twice in the 2000s. This was before he went to school. He was great at technical metal stuff back then but it was more riffs based. It's really cool to see what a legend he has become.
Yeah, Reflux was a lot more conventional than the stuff he's doing now, but even back then anyone who saw him knew he was something special
He says " did bro just play bleed with his thumb"? 😂😂
in all honesty that was INSANE. Hard not love Tosin. Love how positively different his style is and what he will inevitably inspire future players to reach for.
This content has been so helpful Dean, as an intermediate guitarist getting your pov on these techniques and ideas that feel out of reach makes it so much more digestible. Stay Tech
7:35 - "Try to look into your hypotetical future of yourself". That is the best short motivational speech i have heard in a long time.
I dont know if Tosin mentioned it in this video but when your're doing groups of 4 and more (where u involve more then just index finger) u should start from the farther finger to you. ex- grups of 4 should be picked: thump down, thump up, mid finger, index finger. This motion is much more effective. Also visualize your fingers getting thru the strings and not picking on them
For those that want to know:
This was a clinic for RADAR Festival in 2019. Afterwards we all got to hang out with him, get pics and try the guitar from the video, great way to spend an afternoon.
A potential reason why you don't have the snappiness when thumbing is because you don't apply enough pressure and release it properly at tempo. Slow you are getting it but as soon as you pick up speed, your thumbing becomes shallow as you relax more.
Same with the selective picking, if you really pay close attention to Tosins right hand, he picks like a classical guitarist would pluck a string.
We use pressure on the string to create dynamics, not velocity, and that doesn't change with speed.
So maybe applying classical plucking technique to your picking can transform your sound and get that thick tone just as Tosins but at super fast tempos🎸🎸🎸
Just a perspective from a classical guitarist. Hope that helps as AAL are just amazing
0:57 average 8 string guitarists to do list
This masterclass is one of my favorite videos on RUclips, period.
Hey Dean!
You've asked multiple times in the video that how is Tosin's playing is so clean. Well, besides the human factor, there are some things you can change actually. Your technique looks good, but the circumstances could be improved (which would instantly improve your technique as a byproduct). Here are some things you should try:
1. Turn off the delay and turn down the reverb too.
2. Go for an edge of break up sound, rather than a full on distortion.
3. I think you've used like a solo sound here, which is quite mid heavy. For the slap sound you basically need the opposite, a scooped one. I'd start back rolling back the mids a bit then dial in the highs, as the highs give you the most feedback of your playing with this style. Then I'd go for the lows to have the "thump" behind it, then you go back to the mids and find the sweetspot.
4. Depending on the amp (sim) you may sprinkle some clean OD or compression at the beginning of the chain to get the right touch sensitivity, and you should sound pretty close.
anytime you post a video related to animals as leaders im here. lol. it's cool to see you play those styles that aren't normally what you'd play with archspire. i love both of course, but it's sick to see you grasp those concepts. youre too talented man lol. i really enjoyed back when you tried learning that chon song as well, same kinda idea. different styles, but sounds SUPER cool
Love watching this channel grow. You are the man Dean!
I FUCKING LOVE YOUR BAND HOMIE, I PRAY I GET TO SEE YOU LIVE ONE DAY! tosin abasi is a tech legend!
Gotta love when I see comments of people saying thumping isn't that hard and Tosin is overhyped, then watch Dean Lamb absolutely struggling and being blown away by how good Tosin is.
I’ve been working on this for about a month now…. I’m glad to see someone of your skill level in the beginning stages along with me. Come on hypothetical future.
Great video! One awesome tip is to thump and pluck the strings with minimum force, you don't need to hit the strings hard at all, in fact that would slow you down. Obviously a compressor helps with this
Cool stuff. Love the entheos hat! I would love to see you tour with them again!
I had that same look you were giving the entire video. But... I am going to keep trying! Great video, Dean.
Tosin Abasin is INSANE!
Dean with some Tosin is what the world needs rn.
That riff at 10:51 reminded me of the song Terran from Fury 3. Now I need to hear a metal version of it!
I remember seeing Archspire with Vulvodynia and Kris does alot of that thumping stuff. I’m glad more of the extreme metal bands are integrating it into their sound
Deans face is exactly like mine when I try and learn Archspire songs 😂
Dude you guys are on another planet!
6:14 biggest dosage of euphoria I've had in a long time. You're pretty much 20 years ahead of me as far as skill and practice goes. But seeing you blank out on that was really funny to me 😂
Love the increased frequency of uploads! Almost interesting and often makes me laugh too for some reason
You got this, man! I’d love to hear some of this technique in an Archspire song. Archspire is one of the greats! Love your music. Keep up the hard work!
Not sure if you’ve already thought of this but he probably also a good callous build up on his thumb which helps get the tone. I know bass players for sure know calloused fingers help a punchy articulate tone
You're gonna need a boatload of compression for this kind of stuff, my dude. Loved this video!
Great vid.
Regarding the 9:00 ish mark, remember the rubber band technique he mentioned earlier.
He's pulling and pushing the string, like a bend, and then releasing it.
That's what's giving him that power.
...at least I think that's how to describe it.
Get Jared on here! This is much like the double thumb technique on bass!
from the moment you hear the first several bars in Tempting Time (thank you Misha) you suddenly realize how special Tosin and AAL really is
There’s a theme park called Frontier City in Oklahoma that has a wooden rollercoaster called the Wildcat that sounds like this technique. Love it
@DeanLamb Please do something with that melody you wrote, its super sick!
“Tosin Abasi Fishman Clinic at the Music Zoo” is a cool one I just found after this video, its very nerdy but fun
if you could do a video with Tosin himself that would be beyond cool. little guitar interview/lesson
Tosin did a guitar clinic at Verns here in calgary once a long time ago for the last Noctis festival. It was just as mind blowing then as it is now. And this is over ten years later so he's gotten THAT much better. Very cool to see. (He was a super nice dude too by the way!)
It's too early for my brain to process Tosin 🫠
It's almost like a brain dance
I saw Tosin in like 2003 when he played in Reflux. he was good then and insane now. His progression has been nuts.
After the first fucking 3 seconds I could NOT stop looking at the head/hat ratio lmao
DEAN you can't have delay an verb smacking back during his bleed little ditty....has to be clean distortion. but Fishman actives have profiles totally different than a split on a passive but several options
Ain't no one telling me I gotta turn off my delay and reverb. 😤
@@DeanLamb I meant on Tosin bleed spot with his thumb man ... but it's up to you of course. hope your being sarcastic
@@metalfather8139Agreed, that delay is a total mess
Geat, now Dean is gonna incorporate this shit into the next Archspire album and I'll be even farther away from ever being able to play any of their songs lol saw you guys live in Tampa by the way, sick show! I got a video on my phone of the dude in the banana suit getting lifted up to kiss the disco ball on the ceiling and shit lol it was a good time
Tosin has the right hand attack equivalent to the one inch punch. Barely looks like he's moving, but it sounds like the strings are getting hit by a hammer. I think it has to do with his thumb. Like SPECIFICALLY his thumb. Dean, yours is a lot closer to his than mine is. I'd love to see this developed/experimented with a bit more tbh.
I've found that especially with thumping and selective picking that compression is super important. Usually running a slow attack and fast release. It gets that percussive quality and thats why even though he is on split coil he is getting that slappy in your face type tone even with very little gain on the amp.
12:27 - Those notes hit ya right in the gooch lol found your channel recently after the auditions and very glad I did. Cheers my friend 👍
*Also, very cool to hear some potential new beginnings of an ASS, (ArchSpire Song). That riff was sick 👌 gotta be a keeper.
This was super rad, thanks for taking us along
Just to help you out a bit that pickup selection on the abasi concepts is both the bridge and neck split together so use them both together and you’ll get better attack and definition when thumping!! That position 2 is what he uses for selective picking and thumping and leads but he will switch to the neck pickup mid solo which is steezy lol idk how people just casually mid riffing switch fluidly
I like how Tosin talks a lot about his technique, very cool. I always wished Adam Jones would do stuff like this.
I'd love to see some of these techniques make their way into some Archspire songs in the future. Good stuff.
every clinic is insane, pls do continue
I always use infinite regression - AAL to work on the thump technique, pretty easy to wrap your head around
Watched him (animals as leaders) and Plini last night at the Commodore Ballroom here in Vancouver BC. Him and Javier Reyes are the perfect duo playing in a band. Ridiculous talent
bassist here! i'm still trying to keep up with Toby and Matt from The Omnific! the stuff Tosin does is just mind blowing....
So glad to finally see a veteran of guitar struggle with it aswell that shi is sooo hard
This is so cool, for me it’s closer feel wise to playing banjo for the first technique
15:18 riff is phuccing sick
Hey Dean! You mentioned the tone a few times and not quite having the same slap. For the thumping, a little bit of it is in the wrist slap, but overall, he has lighter gauge strings 74 on the 8th and somewhere around a 58 on the 7th. I'm not sure what gauge you use, but the lighter strings definitely slap better!
His explanation of "not getting it for months then suddenly clicking" reminds me of how techniques felt as a beginner, or learning them from scratch. Alternate picking was hell for a long time until the practice and time made it click. Same with sweeping. His thumping is just such an unintuitive way of playing compared to what we're used to that the learning curve seems steeper.It's crazy how the attack is so consistent across all his fingers
the fishman abasi set helps as the pull pot voicing position sounds better. Also, no reverb, etc.
That second sweep picking technique is so fascinating. While sweep picking its all your fretboard hand, while the other method is all your playing hand #Intriguing
So awesome. I'm almost there with the thumping. I have to work on the hybrid picking. 🤘
You may need to lower your strings or raise your pickups to get the poppiness you're looking for. If you notice how close his strings are to his pickups. He has very low action.
"get rash checked out" thats been on my top 3 todo list for a while now. I will take this a as a sign to actually do it
In terms of the thumping stuff Ando san is really underrated for it. Mad the technique his own and applies it to a different style of music super well. If you like the sound of the technique he's definitely one to check out.
Something that's so interesting to me about Towson is just how obvious it is that he is absolutely brilliant when he speaks. When he talks you can see him dumbing things down in real time for us all. LOL Reminds me of Carl Sagan trying to explain complicated concepts.
Marshall Harrison did a video on you!!!! awesome to see you mention him!!!!
Haven't watched his channel in a while, because his teaching is a little beyond me right now. Thanks pointing me to a good video of his!
Wes Montgomery played with his thumb and did upstrokes as well but he didn't depend on a nail, he apparently had a huge callus
you are really good at figuring stuff out quick
That right angle knuckled giant thumb probably helps, also pretty sure Victor Wooten pioneered this style years back and Tosin was able to apply it well to the guitar
I met Tosin after a concert in Austin years ago. Really cool dude. Very humble. I was drunk as fuck and star struck…all I could muster is “Hey, I love you. What are you currently reading?” Lmao Fun times.
You and Tosin should write something together. It would be insane!!
i've been trying to learn stabwound recently and the alt picking gave me some ideas on how to speed up the harder string skipping sections of the song, its really interesting
Tosin is my favorite guitar player, dude is not human
Tosin's a wizard. 'Nuff said.
Check out Tuck Andress on double thumb technique. He's probably the first pioneers. Check the end of the song Europa or Everything's Gonna Be Alright. Note that he often plays multiple parts simultaneously.
13:38 final fantasy ahh riff 😍
Split coil, some eqing, compression and minimal gain all help.