The arabic scale is called Maqam Hijaz Kar in the arabic Maqamat system. They have plenty of cool and exotic scales in their system, including some microtonal stuff.
yes, the double harmonic scale is the maqam hijaz kar, which has perfect fifth and the persian scale with the fifth flatted is the 5th mode of the maqam athar kurd ;)
@@haveagoodone5830 yes I know the Ian Ring scales site as well as his youtube channel but the content is severely flawed, it is NOT reliable source of info, especially regarding non western scales. His site is all about quantity rather than quality although the site's layout is great. When I pointed out his mistakes, he did not bother to fix them. Ian Ring scales site is for sure misguided, shame.
The Byzantine scale is used by Ritchie Blackmore in his solo in Rainbow’s “Stargazer.” It may also have been used by Randy Rhoads in Revelation Mother Earth as well.
Gates of Babylon of Mr Ritchie for me is the absolute one. Impossible to catch this solo, just madness. The chord progression and this guitar expression... and the riff between 2 exotic scales 🤪 My personal absolute number 1.
I’m an Arab Metalhead!, Thankfully no Form of music is band or outlawed in my Country! The only thing that frustrates me is the lack of Metalheads in My Country
Dude, _please_ put some of the rhythms and scale progressions you hear from Arabic music players into stuff you might write, it goes so well with metal!
The Middle East has the most metal scales despite banning the genre in many nations. Holy shvt I didn't realize how many likes this got. THANK YOU! Quick shameless plug, I'm releasing a few singles and an EP in the coming months. It's gonna be "Atomic Midday". Don't check it out if you don't like this plug.
Cool! My personal favourite is the Todi scale from Hindustani music: 1 2b 3b 4# 5 6b 7 I like that it has three chromatic notes in a row both around the root and the fifth. This means that it's pretty jazzy and can resolve both upwards and downwards :)
Ahhhh yes. I was working this exact thing. I’ve been in this Marty Friedman rabbit hole for about 6 months, and every time I’m about to put it to bed, I come across something else that pulls me back in. Currently the Phrygian dominant and kumoi & hirajoshi scale. Going to pick these up too.
@@IndependenceGuitar , the funny thing, I've been getting prepared to make a series of vids on what's happening in Marty's solos for weeks, and then Ben Eller and Shred just spill a lot of it, and I'm like... Oh...
@@haveagoodone5830 lol it’s cool. Same here. I’ve already made a couple vids on marty’a solos. There is so much to his playing and while Ben Eller and Shred make great videos on his stuff, there is ALWAYS room for different perspectives on it. You might see something they don’t. I know i picked up on a couple things. I was actually going to go over the tornado of souls solo again, because now that I’ve had more time to analyze it, I’ve picked up a few things that Marty does that other vids haven’t picked up on. So make the vids, don’t just give up on it because someone else did the same subject. You might have something to offer that they don’t.
What little tinkering I've done with the byzantine scale have come up with some pretty heavy riffs in the low chugga chugga realm of things. It's pretty nasty.
i think your videos are awesome, informative, and do a great job breaking down complicated concepts in simple ways. the only thing i was wondering about during this video was a broader address of the term 'exotic' and what exactly it encapsulates.
That’s straight B Phrygian Dominant if I recall correctly, rather than Arabic/Byzantine or Persian, but it certainly sounds exotic, and it’s probably my favorite part of the song. And really, the Phrygian Dominant and Arabic/Byzantine are almost identical...you could think of Arabic/Byzantine as a Phrygian Dominant and harmonic minor hybrid, so the only difference in the two is the seventh note.
Dear Shreds, You are legit the main reason I picked up my dusty ass guitar from it's case again :). Rock on brother and please never stop doing that trademark laugh haha. Your's truly, A guitar lover from Morocco.
I learned a lot from shred in this video including how to read the musical notation and the interval structure. Thank you for making these type of content. It really does help me and I hope it continues.
I just used the Kumoi scale as the basis for a doom metal song about a barbarian Luthuk solider’s last song after getting their throat crushed by one of their own allies
hey shred, love your scale bible. I am not sure but i think there is a little mistake. you put a major second shape pentatonic but it is the a minor pentatonic.
Ahh oo this is a a fun point. So in the arabic maqam hicaz (the arabic scale) traditionally there is a microtonal variation on the second degree of the ascending scale. ( they hit the minor 2 & sometimes 6 alittle sharp goin up) also the just intonated 3rd is close enough but not necessarily part of the hicaz scale. just 3rd is more of an old western thing, having to do more with harmony than melody. Also there is a neat melodic ending cadence that i think should be noted, namely: the decent to the minor 7th then upto the perfect 4th then down a step to the major 3rd. Because the scale is using major 7 for the most part, when the melody hits the minor 7 its got a vibe. Also it should be noted that most of these melodies have regional variants. Soooo approximating the scale to 12tet fine unless ur tryna learn traditional songs with a traditional group.
The Persian scale is very close to the Byzantian (or double phrygian If I am not mistaken). So If you want to gain some additional harmony, you can raise the b5 to a 5, which then will be the byzantian scale!
I love the way you are always pushing to keep the Overton window open. Like every time you do a scale on the piano you arrange to give us the finger. I have to go rest my chest muscles from cracking up so much.
I listen to a few rappers with middle eastern background and they use middle eastern back tracks in their songs and it’s so good! It’s a unique mix between English rap and arabic sounds
I wonder if there are any concepts from the respective music-theoretic traditions of each of these cultures that can give us more insight? I know that in India, our raagas not only have the notes themselves, but also licks associated with each raaga, that convey a particular mood or rasa.
Learned them at least a decade ago from a little known book called "The Guitar Grimoire" also 2 other books from same company, amazing books, out of print now but I've seen it online used and in PDF form. Sweet Info for the shredder looking too spice up their licks. Shred on SHRED.
Hammett couldn't play his way out if a wet nut sack. ..hahaha I hate Lars. He mesed up limewire bo wait what was it?...he's all "OMG they took our jobs"..
Hello! Thank you very much for this video . It helps me a lot to gather much information about middle east scales into my composition. Keep on rockin !
In conventional modern guitar textbooks the Arabic scale can be called either harmonic minor or the modal equivalent of it is phrygian dominant. Check out players such as Jeff Loomis among other modern players etc who use this scale to a large extent
The Persian Scale is like the Major version of Locrian. It has the defining intervals of Locrian but it has Major 3rd and Major 7th. Pretty cool stuff. I prefer the sound of the Arabic Scale though.
I don't know enough to articulate it too well, but exotic scales plus half-step or even quarter-step trills are fantastic. I feel like they have a more emotional, voice-imitating quality. It isn't metal, but Derek Trucks has done some crossover stuff between indian and blues music, and the slide guitar trills he does are spine-chilling.
I think I have played one of those scales a few weeks ago, or all together...maybe is arabic or egyptian, or moroccan, or spanish...I really don't know which scale are what I played; I did it by try and error, try and error... it's interesting how heavy metal, thrash metal, and death metal have a lot of influence from this ancient music genre which is not from Europe. Can you take a look and give an opinion?
Imagine knowing music theory and applying it to your music. It's almost like it allows you to write more interesting stuff.
Satan is pleased by this comment
Nah that's a lie, 0-3-5 is interesting, the rest is unnecessary bullshit
@@goncalobaia1574 Why?
@@goncalobaia1574 how dare you say something so bold yet so brave?
@@kenetramirez6358 It was a joke brutha
When the Persian scale was played, my carpet levitated.
Time to go for a ride
@@ShredmasterScott the first time I discovered ancient Persian music to be played by a guitarist I was facinated
😂
My snake rose
LoL 😆
The arabic scale is called Maqam Hijaz Kar in the arabic Maqamat system. They have plenty of cool and exotic scales in their system, including some microtonal stuff.
I'm intrigued
yes, the double harmonic scale is the maqam hijaz kar, which has perfect fifth and the persian scale with the fifth flatted is the 5th mode of the maqam athar kurd ;)
@@ShredmasterScott have you seen the Ian Ring all-scales site?
Not only Hicaz (hijaz). Acemasiran, rast, buselik, rehavi, huseyni, nihavend, ussak, saba, ısfahan, neva, irak, buzurk, zengule, zirefken also in maqamat system.
@@haveagoodone5830 yes I know the Ian Ring scales site as well as his youtube channel but the content is severely flawed, it is NOT reliable source of info, especially regarding non western scales. His site is all about quantity rather than quality although the site's layout is great. When I pointed out his mistakes, he did not bother to fix them. Ian Ring scales site is for sure misguided, shame.
The Byzantine scale is used by Ritchie Blackmore in his solo in Rainbow’s “Stargazer.” It may also have been used by Randy Rhoads in Revelation Mother Earth as well.
That's some good intel
Randy uses the Tritons scale in the “bridge” of revelation Mother Earth
Do that's why it's so lovely
Gates of Babylon of Mr Ritchie for me is the absolute one. Impossible to catch this solo, just madness. The chord progression and this guitar expression... and the riff between 2 exotic scales 🤪
My personal absolute number 1.
@@PepLeZinzin it's the best Rainbow song
I love this guy's laugh, actually in fact I love him because of his laugh
Yeah, he doesn't hahahaha
He goes ℌ𝔞 ℌ𝔞 ℌ𝔞 ℌ𝔞 ℌ𝔞
@@saintrhoads3375 how did you do that font
@@simovn5062 copy paste . it a good idea use this police
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"there's scales other than the pentatonic" lmao
Lol that was fuc..d up lmao.
Any scale with five notes is pentatonic, including exotic ones..
I’m an Arab Metalhead!, Thankfully no Form of music is band or outlawed in my Country! The only thing that frustrates me is the lack of Metalheads in My Country
That is frustrating man, I feel you a lot
*banned
Dude, _please_ put some of the rhythms and scale progressions you hear from Arabic music players into stuff you might write, it goes so well with metal!
اه يسطا كل ماجي اسمع ميتال الاقي حد من اهلي او صحابي بيقولي انت الحدت يلا ولا لما اسمعها فالاوضى الاقي اخويا بيخبط و فاكرني بحضر شياطين
Your peers must think you djin
The Middle East has the most metal scales despite banning the genre in many nations.
Holy shvt I didn't realize how many likes this got. THANK YOU!
Quick shameless plug, I'm releasing a few singles and an EP in the coming months. It's gonna be "Atomic Midday". Don't check it out if you don't like this plug.
That's true
True that! But anyone else notice he is flipping us off with his choice of pointers? Well played shred well played....
that sucks
it can be unbanned, but you all will never figure it out
That's because distortion is offensive
No-nonsense, straightforward info, well-explained and demonstrated. Thank you, more of it please!!
No-nonsense??!! His whole shtick was nonsense! Great info though despite the silly act.
Everybody Noticed Middle East Scales, but, who noticed Middle Finger Emoji?
Geddy Approves! 👍🏻👍🏻
I thought it was just my imagination
I did. But it took me to the Arabic Scale to notice it lol
Even the pianist using middle finger
@Rat_kinG Everything is conected, like A Passage To Bangkok.
Not only the emoji 9:59
Best video explaining how megadeth’s solos are written...
What song?
Most marty Friedman solos
@@vikriananda6305 Hangar 18
@@vikriananda6305 all of them
Megadeth and LOG may 12th 😎
Cool! My personal favourite is the Todi scale from Hindustani music: 1 2b 3b 4# 5 6b 7
I like that it has three chromatic notes in a row both around the root and the fifth. This means that it's pretty jazzy and can resolve both upwards and downwards :)
So you wanna tell me that the western evil music is your everyday day eastern music.
yes 🤣🤣🤣
Basically but with western rhythms, palm mutes and distortion
Pack your bags bois we going to the East
@@anotherbigfootwithinternet2147 😂😂😂😂
Love the pointer during the piano parts.
I thought you'd like that
The end gets my metal seal of approval.
Death metal seal
I've learned so much from you, I always knew I was good, but I'm so much better, thanks to you.
Awesome to hear brother
It always gets me when he says: BTW, F stands for FU**
I can't figure out if you're extremely confident or extremely akward, but i love it xD
He’s obviously confident with a great sense of humor
awkwardly confident
🤣
Confidently awkward
"Persian scale"
*shows Petra, Jordan*
NA education
@@janakipejov3667 I always felt Americans were...not bright, to put it mildly.
American education has a very biased education.. we often misrepresent or don't even talk about foreign countries. LOL
And Persians always refused to be called middle eastern.
Very cool stuff Shred. Also that Death Metal Seal caught me off guard 😂😂
there's no way you could have seen him coming
Will blast for mackerel.
This is easily the best lesson format I've seen on RUclips. Love how you tie in theory and music history!
Ahhhh yes. I was working this exact thing. I’ve been in this Marty Friedman rabbit hole for about 6 months, and every time I’m about to put it to bed, I come across something else that pulls me back in. Currently the Phrygian dominant and kumoi & hirajoshi scale. Going to pick these up too.
If you haven't seen it yet, Marty has a dvd called 99 secret lead guitar phrases that people uploaded to youtube.
Same
@@Ren-kf9cw i have not. I will check it out for sure. Looks like I’m going to be in the Marty Friedman rabbit hole for a while.
@@IndependenceGuitar , the funny thing, I've been getting prepared to make a series of vids on what's happening in Marty's solos for weeks, and then Ben Eller and Shred just spill a lot of it, and I'm like... Oh...
@@haveagoodone5830 lol it’s cool. Same here. I’ve already made a couple vids on marty’a solos. There is so much to his playing and while Ben Eller and Shred make great videos on his stuff, there is ALWAYS room for different perspectives on it. You might see something they don’t. I know i picked up on a couple things. I was actually going to go over the tornado of souls solo again, because now that I’ve had more time to analyze it, I’ve picked up a few things that Marty does that other vids haven’t picked up on. So make the vids, don’t just give up on it because someone else did the same subject. You might have something to offer that they don’t.
as a persian it was cool seeing our scale in this vid
loved the vid gj
What little tinkering I've done with the byzantine scale have come up with some pretty heavy riffs in the low chugga chugga realm of things. It's pretty nasty.
so true
I accidently discovered this channel and am now scared that the name "Shred" could be patented
4:20 why did I laugh at that...
Same, hahahaha
420 nice
nice
i think your videos are awesome, informative, and do a great job breaking down complicated concepts in simple ways. the only thing i was wondering about during this video was a broader address of the term 'exotic' and what exactly it encapsulates.
Not metal but the Offspring comes to mind. That Egyptian riff in 'Come out and play'. Cool riff.
That’s straight B Phrygian Dominant if I recall correctly, rather than Arabic/Byzantine or Persian, but it certainly sounds exotic, and it’s probably my favorite part of the song. And really, the Phrygian Dominant and Arabic/Byzantine are almost identical...you could think of Arabic/Byzantine as a Phrygian Dominant and harmonic minor hybrid, so the only difference in the two is the seventh note.
Started thinking about Nile when a lot of the Middle Eastern scales came on.
Dear Shreds,
You are legit the main reason I picked up my dusty ass guitar from it's case again :). Rock on brother and please never stop doing that trademark laugh haha.
Your's truly,
A guitar lover from Morocco.
Lmao I love you SHREDDING Hammett on the pentatonic scale. Just wrote a riff using the Arabian Scale. Thanks for the great videos! Cheers
You explain everything so clearly. Like author from Neskuchniy sound(Нескучный Саунд)
🤘
I learned a lot from shred in this video including how to read the musical notation and the interval structure. Thank you for making these type of content. It really does help me and I hope it continues.
Arch Enemy's "Black Earth"... the Persian scale reminds me of that song.
I just used the Kumoi scale as the basis for a doom metal song about a barbarian Luthuk solider’s last song after getting their throat crushed by one of their own allies
Are you telling me that there are other scale aside pentatonic ? HAHAH man this blown me away !
The Nightwish poster and use of Logic Pro made me subscribe.
How in gods name do you NOT have 1 million subscribers, this is GOLD
hey shred, love your scale bible. I am not sure but i think there is a little mistake. you put a major second shape pentatonic but it is the a minor pentatonic.
Email me...it looks correct but maybe I’m missing something. The second “minor pentatonic shape” is known as the “major pentatonic scale”
@@ShredmasterScott for me it is the C major or the A minor but you have much more experience in music theory than me so I trust you Shred :-)
You are a gift to humanity bless you man! -Joshua Opalewski
"The arabic scale" F in the chat for the other maqam 😵
I was under the impression you needed microtonal frets to achieve the perfect 3rds needed to play them. Could be heinously wrong though.
Ahh oo this is a a fun point. So in the arabic maqam hicaz (the arabic scale) traditionally there is a microtonal variation on the second degree of the ascending scale. ( they hit the minor 2 & sometimes 6 alittle sharp goin up) also the just intonated 3rd is close enough but not necessarily part of the hicaz scale. just 3rd is more of an old western thing, having to do more with harmony than melody. Also there is a neat melodic ending cadence that i think should be noted, namely: the decent to the minor 7th then upto the perfect 4th then down a step to the major 3rd. Because the scale is using major 7 for the most part, when the melody hits the minor 7 its got a vibe. Also it should be noted that most of these melodies have regional variants. Soooo approximating the scale to 12tet fine unless ur tryna learn traditional songs with a traditional group.
@@markop.1994 dude THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THIS
@@aidenupshaw1483 haha np im a nerd for this stuff, and my musical friends wont hear the word mode so i need an outlet 🤣
I fucking love the jab at metallica and the love shown for megadeth
You can hear the Kuomi scale used to great effect in Love Hate Love by Alice in Chains, during the ascending vocal harmonies in the pre chorus.
I actually wrote a song once ENTIRELY diatonic to Double Harmonic Major. It gives a very mystical, beautiful but also dissonant and nasty sound.
Cool , what is the song ?
Love the way you make this funny as well as educational...That`s a great way to teach.
I’m here as a guitarist finally finding this treasure, and also as a fan of Ace Ventura Pets Detective !!!! ;)
4:20 that made me laugh out loud for real
The Persian scale is very close to the Byzantian (or double phrygian If I am not mistaken). So If you want to gain some additional harmony, you can raise the b5 to a 5, which then will be the byzantian scale!
I love the way you are always pushing to keep the Overton window open. Like every time you do a scale on the piano you arrange to give us the finger. I have to go rest my chest muscles from cracking up so much.
Kirk hammett: pentatonics & wah good ole pentatonics and wah
Myrath is one of the best metal bands using the scale.
And Ritchie Blackmore does it as well 🤘
I wonder if Death Metal Cat and Blast Beat Seal ever jammed...
2:08 lol "now don't just think you can grab your axe and rep these notes to score babes"
Listening to komoi scale I have heard this in marty friedmen playing for sure
Great lesson Shred!
& K9 Kat is kool!
Thanks 😊
I listen to a few rappers with middle eastern background and they use middle eastern back tracks in their songs and it’s so good! It’s a unique mix between English rap and arabic sounds
Any recommendations?
Would love to listen to any artists you can recommend
I wonder if there are any concepts from the respective music-theoretic traditions of each of these cultures that can give us more insight?
I know that in India, our raagas not only have the notes themselves, but also licks associated with each raaga, that convey a particular mood or rasa.
Man gotta love Robert johnson, makes me proud to be from Mississippi and live right down the road from the crossroads
¿What chords should be used over each scale and why?
Even though I don't make any music in the rock genre. These scales are good for dark and creepy melodies
Learned them at least a decade ago from a little known book called "The Guitar Grimoire" also 2 other books from same company, amazing books, out of print now but I've seen it online used and in PDF form. Sweet Info for the shredder looking too spice up their licks. Shred on SHRED.
I had a copy of The Guitar Grimoire back in the day. Learned a lot of exotic scales from it.
@@kungfuman82 So did I but it grew legs lol
Classic book
"So you're telling me there are scales other than pentatonic?" Kirk Hammett
Hammett couldn't play his way out if a wet nut sack. ..hahaha I hate Lars. He mesed up limewire bo wait what was it?...he's all "OMG they took our jobs"..
*David Gilmour and Dave Mustaine have joined the chat*
The Prince of Persia vibe tho
Nostalgia
I can't stop looking at the camera in the pickguard haha.
Sick video tho, how do you get so much sustain in your tone?!
distortion
Hello! Thank you very much for this video . It helps me a lot to gather much information about middle east scales into my composition. Keep on rockin !
You're absolutely brilliant at this. Thanks!
Some of these are very cinematic- starting right away with the Persian Scale!
Might as well call the Tritone scale the “Yu-Gi-Oh scale”
I love your videos, i watch you since a long time ago but i dont know why i havent suscribed yet, now i did it:)
Good stuff. Like your approach and knowledge.
Thanks
In conventional modern guitar textbooks the Arabic scale can be called either harmonic minor or the modal equivalent of it is phrygian dominant. Check out players such as Jeff Loomis among other modern players etc who use this scale to a large extent
It’s not the same as harmonic minor
This is probably the greatest guitar channel on youtube
This really helped me understand the theory side of it, not a lot of people show you how to apply the scales like you do. Big respect!
For me , Best Exotic Scales is Balinese Pentatonic Javanese Pentatonic, and Sundanese Pentatonic
Anjir indo
@@jarnasrokhi4966 Yoi, Scale Gamelan Itu Unik dan punya ciri khas 😁
Aowkwowkow kintil
bener sih elu
The Persian Scale is like the Major version of Locrian.
It has the defining intervals of Locrian but it has Major 3rd and Major 7th. Pretty cool stuff.
I prefer the sound of the Arabic Scale though.
Guys p
If you are fond of scales please check mixolydian b6 pentatonic, hirajoshi(pentatonic) and harmonic major scales❤️❤️
Best explanation I have seen so far on scales subscribed \m/
You're awesome brother! Thanks for making music theory fun! Much love and respect Shred
this guy is legitimately funny AND educational. Subscribed!
This guy has a lot of sense of humor. Nice one. Entertaining . I learned the scale thanks!
“Here’s a short **musical** example” That’s generous
The evil laugh always gets to me lol
These videos need more attention, dude
I love this band and its guitarists, and have played various pieces throughout my years. Cheers...
And your a great musician
Sorry every one, I mean ur. Not your
thanks bro
Death metal cat approves
You're*
That he is. No wonder Death Metal Cat approves.
Yo're
you are obnoxiously good at guitar. i love it.
Great video subscribed! Keep on 🤘🤘🤘
Egyptian mixolydian
My rug started to rise up and ripple gently.
That laugh had me dying shred plz keep out this awesome content my dude cheers from the great north west
I don't know enough to articulate it too well, but exotic scales plus half-step or even quarter-step trills are fantastic. I feel like they have a more emotional, voice-imitating quality. It isn't metal, but Derek Trucks has done some crossover stuff between indian and blues music, and the slide guitar trills he does are spine-chilling.
this guy should be my teacher...
Here I swiftly went from rolling my eyes at the jokes to laughing my ass off
So I'm getting back into scales. Thanks for the inspiration
Petrouchka chords was creepy beautiful🃏😨
I think I have played one of those scales a few weeks ago, or all together...maybe is arabic or egyptian, or moroccan, or spanish...I really don't know which scale are what I played; I did it by try and error, try and error... it's interesting how heavy metal, thrash metal, and death metal have a lot of influence from this ancient music genre which is not from Europe.
Can you take a look and give an opinion?
Necrophagists stabwound guitar solo has an exotic sound to it...
Play some more melodies on these scales, they sound great
I am from India and these are everyday scale in our music 🤣
Isn’t the Arabic Scale also called Melodic Phrygian?
Wear like Vikings,
Me : *reminds me to Varg Vikernes*