Forsworn: “NOOOOOO! Years of planning, and preparation! You can’t just destroy the army we’ve built! Muh sovereignty!” Dragonborn: “HaHa Unrelenting Force go FUS RO DA!”
My thoughts exactly xD. At this point I'm pretty sure a lot of the plotlines they leave unanswered are because they don't want to make a mess they need to retcon later, not just for the sake of leaving them for mystery of future games
Yeah I feel like Nate gives Bethesda too much credit when he talks about how they left stuff incomplete for "mystery" or whatnot. I think they just have good ideas but forget about some of them
@@afarensis9720 Eh, I don't think they just "forgot", at least for a majority of them. All I will say is Bethesda's quality didn't go down overnight. We just may not have seen the full picture at that point
nah, "make note of that shit, we gotta add some more lore points that contradict that and deepen the mystery and lack of answers" todd howard likes unanswered questions
@@TheJacob232 They probably don't even know the meaning of "Canon" at Bethesda lol. Almost every major plot in Skyrim that actually matters ends in some variation of "We fixed it, right?". I look forward to the outcry if they ever dare to confirm who wins Skyrim's civil war
"The ruin is surrounded on all sides by mountains so the only way in is through a secret underground cave" Me and my horse at the bottom of the mountain (both putting on headbands): Lets do this
That was how I accidentally found it the first time. I was just cruising the mountain tops on my magic bouncy pony and fell down into it. I was so glad when I found the cave out 'cause I had no idea how to get back up the mountains from there.
A Nate follower that says random comments about the area you are in and can ask more about the location? That would go excellent with the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod.
omg that hagraven startled me so badly that i shouted her off of that ledge and the battle ended instantly. serana killed the trolls and it was very anticlimactic
Maybe they just have bad posture? Granted, I'll still let this statement pass considering that Hagraven's are clearly not any kind of "good" or "benevolent"
I didn’t have a comfort streamer or a Minecraft RUclipsr that raised me. I had this channel. I had Nate and his iconic “murdered to death” and “coming up on number 5” for three years. This channel is my go to for everything. Idle background noise, riveted attention, to listen to *while playing Skyrim* and so much more. Thank you so much Nate I hope you’ll be on RUclips for many more years.
I get stuck on the "Our Matriarch" thing in one of the letters.. Maybe there were at one point several Matriarchs, governing their own clutch of Forsworn and working together as a coven of sorts. Over time the Forsworn got more and more scattered, and some lost their Matriarchs (in fights or whatbot). Today only a couple remain, and being able to say that you are led by a Matriarch is a Big Thing in Forsworn culture. I dunno, just a thought.
Retjia makes sense. The Forsworn worship the Hags anyway. They are consistently seen governing their own covens of Forsworn groups. As memory serves theres even a quest where you have to save a woman in a Forsworn camp from her mother who it turns out was a Hagraven leading the Forsworn in the area and was intending on turning her daughter into one too. Meanwhile the Forsworn were literally just following her because she was a Hag. The Hags are the ones who create the Briarhearts too who are amongst the most influential members of their culture, so it would stand to reason that the Hagravens are matriarchs of that society and the Briarhearts are those chosen by the matriarchs. *The* matriarch could then be the leader of the rest of the Hagravens, like a great uniter which is present in all sorts of prophecies in basically every fractured civilisation
@@ethanquirk28 My hypothesis is that the Foresworn became more organized after they nearly got wiped out. I mean... seems natural.. you have 8 tribes, 5 tribes dies, now instead of 8 leaders you have 3. Eventually you might get new splinter groups, but that takes time.
"And if you fulfill that special condition and hide the body" That's the Gourmet that you're thinking about. They actually specifically want you to Gauis's body easy to find.
Something that intrigues me is when reading The Legend of Red Eagle it mentions how the people that fought with him basically gave themselves to some dark magic or something, definitely sounds like a hagraven cult of some sort, to strongly empower them to overcome the odds. They did so and when we meet Forsworn Briarhearts they seem to be the Male counterpart to Hagravens having an insane amount of health, magic, and are not to be taken lightly. They are almost always seen to be in cahoots with the Hagravens. But they derive their power from something the Hagravens have and are still dependant on them to some degree. I guess even the Forsworn need some sort of leader to coordinate such a large faction. My guess is that the Matriarch was slowly turning the reach's forsworn into one large happy and aggressive family. Maybe we cut that short.
The hagraven rule them, and the briarheart ritual gives the hagraven irresistible control of the warrior. If you read all the notes and books, you can learn all about it.
The night slowly draws to a close in the Bee and Barb. The ale has flowed, the songs have been sung, and the snow lies asleep on the hills and peaks of the Rift as, one by one, the patrons retire to their rooms and elsewhere in Riften, to sleep, perchance to dream of love and passion, and lives forever together.... And it seems, as the embers slowly sink into somnolence, that you will return once again to your lodgings once more, ever alone, forever unloved, forevermore bereft of the pleasures of wedded life. And, as you sigh at the sight of the dregs of your last drink, the bitter dregs that must be drunk yet again, you notice not the one last straggler, the lone stranger left here, in the Bee and Barb. You notice not his beauty, nor the mesmerising amulet he wears, he whom Mara has brought here ... for you. You notice not his warm smile, his light in his eyes, his desire and his delight in your beautiful face and form, until, that is, leaning over, he gently takes your hands in his, and he lifts your face to his, and he kisses you tenderly as if for forever. And you look up and see him, as if all the world were contracted thus into the one, the one wise man in the world of Tamriel. The one wonderful man who even the daedra would weep to see unloved and loveless. The one man who desires you. And then he whispers an endearment that would even seduce the stars to sing of love and life.... And then he whispers, as he leads you to his bed and board, a life of love and passionate desires: "Without further ado, let's do furniture...."
I just found out this if you don’t discover you’re the Dragonborn and don’t kill any dragons until you meet the one in the soul cairn it unlocks some exclusive dialogue options. He’ll call you a “vanquished of a fellow dragon” in dragon language. You can ask him why he said that and he’ll say he isn’t sure, that it was instinct to call you a fellow dragon and that one day maybe you’ll both discover why that is. Because you’re the Dragonborn.
@@Luke32336 it's not a nit-pick. He made a statement that directly contradicts game dialogue that he used to back up the statement. It's a glaring, careless error. And I see them too often in this dude's videos.
@@Luke32336 just a clarification, since you don't seem to be aware. A nit is the egg of a louse, and is incredibly tiny. Picking out the nits is the most time consuming and irritating part of treating a lice infestation, as it is very hard to see them in the hair and on the scalp. Picking nits or nitpicking is to pick at something so small as to be nearly impossible to notice. In colloquial use, this is in reference to pulling out and drawing attention to a detail so tiny that it would normally not even be noticed, bordering on irrelevant. In this case, Nate literally stated one thing, and then played a clip of the NPC stating the exact opposite, i.e., "hide the body," followed by "make sure it is found as quickly as possible in a major city." This isn't a detail so small and irrelevant that few would even notice. A nitpick, this is not.
@Giin I'm glad you brought up irrelevance. The main point of this video is "who is the matriarch/those chickens are up to something" and the line in question points you to their main base. As it's only vaguely related to the point of the video, it hardly matters that he was incorrect/misspoke, because it doesn't undermine the main point, therefore nit-pick.
Really enjoying your videos , I m a grandma whos grandson got me playing a few years ago , I really love it , am constantly amazed by it, and have learned so much from you about it , thanks for all you do , your videos are top shelf !
I was 11 the first time I found that beacon. I didnt find it until I was looting the cave I had just killed Boethiahs champion in and had no health. Scared the hell outta me; ive never spun around swinging so fast
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim not the quest, Merida herself. Her attitude basically comes off as 'you are mortal ants under my shoes and must do what I say.' Sheogorath and Sanguine are my two favorites. They're two of the more entertaining ones
I love how you mentioned that there are no associated quests to do with Hag's End dungeon, and 10 minutes after starting up Skyrim, i get 3 fetch quests to Hag's End back to back from Markarth. I think there is a high chance of Hag's End being Markarth's fetch quest locations, forcing you to come here to get these fetch quests done. One of which was this was where they put the Priest For Molag Bal's quest.
glad they didnt.. cause its dreadful.. as a no fk's giving dragon born.. i do give fks about the health of my ear drums... soon as the hag teleported to the next room after i beat her the first fight.. she'd be like "ok peoples.. get ready.. the dragonborn is coming" then 1hr passes by.. 2.... 3.... 4 hrs.. she would have been like "um.. hello.. dragonborn... where'd u go... ur suppose to kill me.. stop me from world domination" me in markarath inn telling stories to the wenches *then there was this ungodly sound... so i left. fk it.. i can twerk to that... and here i am with you.. my lovely wenches... just grab as much gold as i could on my way out the dungeon... so FREE BEERS ON ME...." 😂
@@InanisNihil TBH, free rounds in Skyrim would probably be like a blessing from the nine lol. IDK how anybody affords anything in Skyrim, considering the average citizen can't wander the countryside/raid the dungeons for loot. Even as the Dragonborn, you don't really make money from them until you're high level & then you're selling Daedric gear which, considering the source, it should be worth a lot
I'd guess they were considering making the witches more interesting. The first room is rather well decorated and comfy. having music with dinner wouldn't be bad.
@@kaiseremotion854 that or maybe one of the coven members is playing. Maybe it didn't get implemented because they didn't have a harp playing animation? it seems simple but probably isn't.
Actually, "Forsworn" means you broke an oath. "Cursed Oathbreakers, your honor’s in pawn And worthless the vows you have made, Justice shall see you where others have gone, Delivered to those you betrayed!" And that NPC's dialog says the opposite of what you did. It said to make sure the body is found quickly.
@@HexArtificer-old-e9s You're thinking of Perjury, which is a type of forswearing, but being Forsworn is more general. Other acts than simple lies can cause it to happen. For example, if you make an oath or vow never to eat a hamburger again, and you later eat one, you have broken that oath, and are forsworn.
She didnt tell you to hide the body, gabriela told you to make it easier for the body to be found.. u should just leave the body anywhere in a major city... I hopr this observation is useful
Dude. You deserve to be on a straight up paycheck directly from Bethesda. Your coverage of all elder scrolls lore is complete and interesting. You rock.
Old comment but I have to agree the sound when I first heard it in one of the fort towers during the night creeped me out since I was not familiar with the lay out of the tower all I know was the sound was very close but I head no idea where it was really coming from until much later. I could not help but be remined me of the "Regenerators" from resident evil 4.
*Todd Howard:* "we need new interesting ideas for the elder scrolls" *Nate:* uhhh...sir.... *Todd Howard:* "ANYWAY we need new interesting ideas for the elder scrolls...."
Lod the Blacksmith is obviously the most powerful man in Skyrim, at least in my play through. He has the undying loyalty of the Dragonborn, who can call at least 2 dragons to his aid, a few dozen of the most powerful men and women, and summon a multitude of conjurations to his side.
Who would even have need of two dragons at that point? Given the Dragonborn's mastery of The Thu'um, which is impossible to replicate in the life span of a single mortal, nobody could even stop them by force Now, if Alduin/Miraak, etc... show up looking to party, by all means, summon away
Hi, I just started watching your video's, well only the Skyrim ones. I have so many questions but fear to ask. Just wanted to let you know I really enjoy your content and will be watching and liking more of course. Keep up the good work. If you are the one editing the video's, well done, most enjoyable to watch.
I listen to nate and camel a lot while going to sleep. Really good and really informative videos, great for listening to while grinding on a game or while laying down to sleep or just relax.
The theory I want to believe is that the Hagraven we fought in Hag's End was akin to a second in command, left behind in place of The Matriarch, which is why the unique Hagraven had no actual name but was still powerful. Why I want to believe this theory is because it would mean that The Matriarch is still hiding and active, and possibly more powerful then we think, and with the Bloodthorn dagger, it might be a hint as to what the Matriarch's true plan might be, the union of all the Forsworn clans, and then improve them by turning a majority into vampires and werewolves, alongside more biarhearts and hag-hagravens. Can you imagine a unified Forsworn clan empowered by their old magics, briarhearts, shamans, hags-hagravens, forsworn vampires and forsworn werewolves. They would be powerful at all times of the day, especially during the night. Hell let's go more crazy with this theory, maybe The Matriarch is AWOL because she is in the process of trying to establish a form of alliance with the reach's Falmor, in the place of Vampires, now can you imagine a Reach alliance of a united Forsworn clan and the Reach's Falmor? This would allow the Forsworn to not just have the likes of the Falmor and their Chaurus amongst their ranks, but also allow them to spread deep into the mountains of the Reach, and possibly even take over old Dwemer ruins turning them into Forsworn/Falmor fortresses akin to Blackreach. Just the thought of Falmor empowered by old magic thanks to the Hagravens is a terrible 'and awesome' idea.
I was thinking the same thing and that the Wolf Queen Potema could be the matriarch in question, or a deadra perhaps. Would have made for an awesome side quest. Who knows, maybe Elisif is just secretly evil.
@@SamDy99 Hey, they might call him "Matriarch" too. I could certainly see Madanach demanding he be called "Matriarch" because it makes him feel pretty.
Hot take: The Matriarch does rule over all forsworn. Madenach is also king of all forsworn. The Matriarch and Madenach are just in a long distance relationship. He's been in prison a while, ya know.
Suggestion for you. Fair warning this could be something that's very commonly known and I'm just that new. But there's something strange about the town of Rorikstead. Specifically with the crops and Jounae, the healer and one of the founders. The villagers all boast about how great the crops are. The companion Erik even says they've never had a bad harvest no matter the conditions. The second founder says that the land the village was built on used to be impossible to farm because nothing would ever grow. Sorry if this is old news.
Nick please do a video on the warnings of “dark times” that the Jarl of Morthal keeps warning us about, I’m replaying the game and heard that and it struck my curiosity and I figure if anyone knows anything about it.... it’s you!
Probably just the second great war between the empire and the elves. Or the vampire threat... Or the fact one of her court is plotting against her ... Or the forsworn themselves... there are endless possibilities really
I expected you to talk about how the hagravens created the Briarhearts in the Forsworn Briarheart Ritual at Bard's Leap Summit/Lost Valley Redoubt rather than the "hidden/unique boss" at Hag's End at the edge of the map and word wall followed by the DB quest-line side-mission with ancient DB armor upon a return visit.
The thing about Gravity is that no F's are given to anyone. If you don't have some sort of countermeasure prepared, you could be Maxos from the Divinity universe & still die if it's high enough. Power is irrelevant at that point
Exactly. By the time I got to the final fight spot I was so sick of her shit and just immediately shouted her off the roof. Though honestly I half expected her to just teleport away again and was pleasantly surprised when she thudded to the ground.
I just found out today that when you kill a Briar-Heart, when you take the briar from their inventory, it disappears from their chest! I think that's super neat.
@@maelavdrak all you do is trail illusion, sneak, pickpocket, and one hand (or bow) so you have some sort of combat abilities as you level. Or you can do illusion only combat where you just frenzy everyone and go invisible. Or use the necromancer stone / conjuration The last is really up to you, but just level illusion until you can easily cast invisibly and muffle, sneak to well sneak around, and pickpocket so you can have the perk that let's you take anything and done. You can also do potion making and reverse pickpocket deadly poisons on people and it should kill them. Enjoy Breton works best imo
@@maelavdrak it's a really fun build and you can easily turn it into a puppet master build once you're done messing around. You can also use the alternative start mod to prevent dragon spawns until you're ready as that build can't do... Well anything to dragons.
I have been seeing your videos like crazy these last days, because of the scenes you take in convination of your descriptions I'm convinced that you are the best youtuber for videogames in my opinion.
I started watching a year or so back for your skyrim content. Because of you and your fascinating voice I've bought the special edition and fallout 4. Thank you man
Forsworn : You killed our brothers and sisters and murdered our Supreme leader Dragonborn : Huh? That teleporting bird? I don't even remember how I killed her. Anyway I need that drum for someone (proceeds to clear the remaining guys)
Interesting... Great vid. i love the forsworn and always wished they had more content. I would have backed them as the real faction of Skyrim if I had ever been given the choice. They're the real people of Skyrim.
@@eyesack6845 no, I just didn't know at first that they were bandits. I drank with Sam Guevenne and that was the first time I entered Markarth, and I can't remeber why I ended up in prison. Anyway I met Madanach and believed his whole spiel. So when I escaped I went to the nearest forsworn camp, honestly thinking I'd joined. 😅
It might have still been in development up to the present day were that the case. Just getting rid of all the bugs would have cost them several years worth of work. I mean, there are sooooo many bugs in this game that every time I fire it up, I pull out a new can of Raid Bug Spray.
@@phillipallen3468 meh, they'd just let the modders fix the bugs themselves. Bethesda develops games as shells to be filled and finished by the players. Or at least, that seems to be their unofficial stance. They decide the canon, but the players perfect the execution.
Just wanted to comment how much I love your videos. I always enjoyed the secret/conspiracy aspects of Bethesda games. And you masterfully explain them all.
One detail for you Nate!!! if you go to Liz (the spider that is the pet of the dark brotherhood) you will find the bones of Gaston Bellefort, a Breton that is the author of the night mother’s truth. There’s also a note on him explaining how he found the Sanctuary and tried to go in.
That sounds great! Is it also possible to do one explaining who fired the first shot in Fallout's nuclear war? After the new 76 lore my money is on the Zetans. I think each side thought the other shot the space station down when it was the Zetans all along.
A year later, I think this would be a really cool topic to touch up on, given the Markarth Chapter in ESO and all the related lore about the Reachmen within. It explains WHAT hagravens are, defining their relationship with the Reachmen (they're wise women and witches of the clans that make a pact with Nocturnal to become greater, which is why they transform into twisted crones with a crow motif). In almost all cases, the clans are LITERALLY led by a Hagraven because they are spiritual leaders who took that extra step in the name of the clan. It also goes into much greater detail about Briarhearts, the ritual, and how Hagravens create the plant and the warriors. This you could already piece together in Skyrim, but having the details laid out neatly is nice. Plus, it paints the Reachmen as overall much more sympathetic "villains," at least as far as Skyrim is concerned. You get to learn their culture in detail, and discover the millennia of oppression their people have faced, especially from the Nords, which honestly explains pretty much everything about their attitudes by the time the events of Skyrim begin. Easily one of my favorite ESO chapters.
Two game plot points I always thought Bethesda really missed the boat on... the Forsworn Queen and the Whiterun Seer. Would have been excellent if there were multiple ways to get tokens for different readings for different unique gear.
Also possible that the Matriarch had a higher role to play, but was scaled back and cut out, leaving the notes and the odd teleporting effect as the only remnants. Sadly I don't think mods that add cut content like Cutting Room Floor makes that connection with her being the Matriarch either.
Yo Nate I love your videos! You explain the lore so well I hope you can make a video explaining the history of the factions in ESO like the Aldmeri Dominion.
Love these crossover videos where you link Skyrim lore with ESO. Have been playing both for years and didn't link all that much lore together for myself. Great work; you make me want to study TES lore more closely.
"3d most powerful individual in all of Skyrim, behind General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak " Master Arngeir, Miraak, Harkon: Am I a joke to you? (actually even excluding Dragonborn and Alduin I'm pretty sure there are few more insane char that could pose a serious threat to Skyrim but can't think of them on top of my head.)
When the Dragonborn has reached true ultimate potential, there's no one who can stand before such a powerful character. No one. My little girl Dragonborn can one-shot any type of dragon with just her Unrelenting Force shout. Turns them to gooey powder in a snap. Now who can stand before that?
The children are obviously the most powerful things in the universe I summoned a dragon, shouted at them, pelted them with arrows and burned them with spells and not a scratch. There's nothing more powerful than that
I found the cave leading to hags end by accident once, fought my way through it and killed the boss hargraven, but i always thought there was a quest there and I just fumbled it by not taking it before heading there
Forsworn: We will raise an army of our brethren, and retake our homeland from the invaders.
Dragonborn: Huh neat cave.
Dragonborn later: Oh look, they can fly!
There’s forsworn East of Whiterun? How did I ever miss that
Forsworn: “NOOOOOO! Years of planning, and preparation! You can’t just destroy the army we’ve built! Muh sovereignty!”
Dragonborn: “HaHa Unrelenting Force go FUS RO DA!”
No, I think he misspoke, he meant the eastern border of The Reach, where it borders Whiterun.
Safest city in the reach.
Todd Howard while watching this video : "Oh...so this is how it all fits together."
My thoughts exactly xD. At this point I'm pretty sure a lot of the plotlines they leave unanswered are because they don't want to make a mess they need to retcon later, not just for the sake of leaving them for mystery of future games
@Josh -_- #WelcomeToBGS xD
Yeah I feel like Nate gives Bethesda too much credit when he talks about how they left stuff incomplete for "mystery" or whatnot. I think they just have good ideas but forget about some of them
@@afarensis9720 Eh, I don't think they just "forgot", at least for a majority of them. All I will say is Bethesda's quality didn't go down overnight. We just may not have seen the full picture at that point
your learning java? cool
Epic Nate: makes a theory/idea about elder scrolls lore.
Elder scrolls 6 developers: write that down! Write that down!
One can only hope
Jokes on you, they won’t make a 6 and just make 5 over and over again
100 years of ES5
nah, "make note of that shit, we gotta add some more lore points that contradict that and deepen the mystery and lack of answers" todd howard likes unanswered questions
@@TheJacob232 They probably don't even know the meaning of "Canon" at Bethesda lol. Almost every major plot in Skyrim that actually matters ends in some variation of "We fixed it, right?". I look forward to the outcry if they ever dare to confirm who wins Skyrim's civil war
Nate: get a special reward if you hide the body to make him hard to discovered
Gabriella: Kill him in a city so he can be easily discovered
Also Gabriella: Kill the Emperors cousin at her wedding in Skyrims capital with the Jarl Of Solitude&potential Queen of Skyrim in attendance.
"The Hagravens were behind something after all"
Dragonborn: Well good thing I got that sorted out huh
Right? I can't believe the terrifying bog witch bird-women who decorate exclusively with bones and dirt were up to something
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"The ruin is surrounded on all sides by mountains so the only way in is through a secret underground cave"
Me and my horse at the bottom of the mountain (both putting on headbands): Lets do this
That was how I accidentally found it the first time. I was just cruising the mountain tops on my magic bouncy pony and fell down into it. I was so glad when I found the cave out 'cause I had no idea how to get back up the mountains from there.
Me: Shimmy to the left. Jump. Shimmy to the right. Crouch jump. Shimmy shimmy shimmy...JUMP!
Then the eye of the Tiger song starts to play as you go up the hill
@@brushdogart glad I'm not the only one, I also spoiled cloudruler because I saw it and started jumping
@@pyrotheevilplatypus thats how i got up to the greybeards my first time playing didnt pay attention to dialogue so thought their was no stair case
I owe you guys a video about rocks but I’m also thinking about doing one on Mount Chilliad 🥺
Top 5 trees
I would love to see that, since mount chilliad always seemed a big mystery to me!
Can you investigate why my dad never came back from getting cigarettes Nate?
*INVESTIGATE WHERE IS MY COLLECTION IS NATE?*
@@secretagentcat LMFAOOO
I think the hagravens are one of the creeeepiest characters in Skyrim. Glad to hear you shed some light on them and their history.
them and the falmer i hate and avoid dwemer ruins when i can those things creep me out
@@cjvaye99 I loved killing those things until I found out they eat people, I still decimated them but I no longer feel bad about it
I thought anise would turn into a hagraven when I first saw her
This one hates Hagravens. So this one got a mod called "The Ravens No More Generic Hagravens." Now they are much easier on the eyes.
Trolls aren't? Lol or werewolves? There just as creepy as hagraves
When are we going to get a Nate follower mod? One that tells you interesting lore tidbits about all the locations you take him to
A Nate follower that says random comments about the area you are in and can ask more about the location? That would go excellent with the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod.
That would be useful
Yes please
So a male serana
Yes i need
omg that hagraven startled me so badly that i shouted her off of that ledge and the battle ended instantly. serana killed the trolls and it was very anticlimactic
Haha! Yes, I blew her off the cliff too- insta-kill!
Elena's Dragonborn: Well Well Well looks who's standing at the edge of a cliff. It'd be a shame if someone were to shout.
Do you see the way they're always hunched over looking all scheme-like? I would be more surprised if they weren't planning something
they even rub thier little claw hand things
Maybe they just have bad posture? Granted, I'll still let this statement pass considering that Hagraven's are clearly not any kind of "good" or "benevolent"
Have you seen the way flies rub their hands together? They’re secretly behind all the violence because it means more food for them! :0
all they are missing is a little mustache to twirl
@@Altair1243WAR maybe they evolved from pangolins... have the same posture and scheming hand gestures
I didn’t have a comfort streamer or a Minecraft RUclipsr that raised me. I had this channel. I had Nate and his iconic “murdered to death” and “coming up on number 5” for three years. This channel is my go to for everything. Idle background noise, riveted attention, to listen to *while playing Skyrim* and so much more. Thank you so much Nate I hope you’ll be on RUclips for many more years.
Same, I love watching Nate's videos while playing Skyrim
A year later and nothing
Same
His videos are my personal choice for ASMR.
Nate you need some scuba gear for how deep you’re divine into this lore
Ad victoriam, knight.
FrenZ Lyons all the way
We’ve got this area locked down
Steel be with you
nah nah nah. you psychoreligious madmen go back to the capitol wasteland. leave my commonwealth alone. minutemen all the way! preston garvey for life!
Forsworn: go to live to a place a conventional army can't reach
Dragonborn: has a horse
Look at muh horse, muh horse is amazing!
me: reads title
Also me: At this point who the f*** isnt
He's saying that *everybody* is "planning something."
Dude thats hilarious!
Beautiful just beautiful
Next video title: How Mjoll is the most evil character in Tamriel.
Ok dengeir of stuhn.
I get stuck on the "Our Matriarch" thing in one of the letters..
Maybe there were at one point several Matriarchs, governing their own clutch of Forsworn and working together as a coven of sorts. Over time the Forsworn got more and more scattered, and some lost their Matriarchs (in fights or whatbot). Today only a couple remain, and being able to say that you are led by a Matriarch is a Big Thing in Forsworn culture.
I dunno, just a thought.
Wow, everyone in this comment section is contributing to the theory, and im just over here like "i want ramen!"
@@ccartdoodlez4572 now I want ramen too..
Your "thought" is way more likely than the theory presented by this video =/
Retjia makes sense. The Forsworn worship the Hags anyway. They are consistently seen governing their own covens of Forsworn groups. As memory serves theres even a quest where you have to save a woman in a Forsworn camp from her mother who it turns out was a Hagraven leading the Forsworn in the area and was intending on turning her daughter into one too. Meanwhile the Forsworn were literally just following her because she was a Hag. The Hags are the ones who create the Briarhearts too who are amongst the most influential members of their culture, so it would stand to reason that the Hagravens are matriarchs of that society and the Briarhearts are those chosen by the matriarchs. *The* matriarch could then be the leader of the rest of the Hagravens, like a great uniter which is present in all sorts of prophecies in basically every fractured civilisation
@@ethanquirk28 My hypothesis is that the Foresworn became more organized after they nearly got wiped out. I mean... seems natural.. you have 8 tribes, 5 tribes dies, now instead of 8 leaders you have 3. Eventually you might get new splinter groups, but that takes time.
Theory: Before Nate made Skyrim videos he was a private investigator
Detective sherlock
"And if you fulfill that special condition and hide the body"
That's the Gourmet that you're thinking about. They actually specifically want you to Gauis's body easy to find.
She looks like my ex wife that I accidentally married when I was out drinking with a god.
Did she cheat on me???
I get it ;)
Oh crud...somehow I married her too, and I'm a female. Khajiit not like
She Is a player
Bruh that’s like what happened to me, was there a goat involved somehow?
The Dragonborn ruined a TON of evil plans.
But also perpetuated a bunch of evil plans.
@@Tlevids Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@@Tlevids I mean... depends on whether you destroyed the Dark Brotherhood or joined it.
Krii pah do niin
@@astranix0198 pruzah ro
Got it. Just start killing Hagravens. I'll tell you when to stop. (spoiler: I'm never going to tell you that.)
Something that intrigues me is when reading The Legend of Red Eagle it mentions how the people that fought with him basically gave themselves to some dark magic or something, definitely sounds like a hagraven cult of some sort, to strongly empower them to overcome the odds. They did so and when we meet Forsworn Briarhearts they seem to be the Male counterpart to Hagravens having an insane amount of health, magic, and are not to be taken lightly. They are almost always seen to be in cahoots with the Hagravens. But they derive their power from something the Hagravens have and are still dependant on them to some degree.
I guess even the Forsworn need some sort of leader to coordinate such a large faction. My guess is that the Matriarch was slowly turning the reach's forsworn into one large happy and aggressive family. Maybe we cut that short.
My hypothesis is that the efforts to wipe out he Reachmen tempered their resolve and forced them to work together.
The hagraven rule them, and the briarheart ritual gives the hagraven irresistible control of the warrior. If you read all the notes and books, you can learn all about it.
When you hear, "Without further ado, let's do further," you know you're in for a good video.
Or "murdered to death
The night slowly draws to a close in the Bee and Barb.
The ale has flowed, the songs have been sung, and the snow lies asleep on the hills and peaks of the Rift as, one by one, the patrons retire to their rooms and elsewhere in Riften, to sleep, perchance to dream of love and passion, and lives forever together....
And it seems, as the embers slowly sink into somnolence, that you will return once again to your lodgings once more, ever alone, forever unloved, forevermore bereft of the pleasures of wedded life.
And, as you sigh at the sight of the dregs of your last drink, the bitter dregs that must be drunk yet again, you notice not the one last straggler, the lone stranger left here, in the Bee and Barb. You notice not his beauty, nor the mesmerising amulet he wears, he whom Mara has brought here ... for you. You notice not his warm smile, his light in his eyes, his desire and his delight in your beautiful face and form, until, that is, leaning over, he gently takes your hands in his, and he lifts your face to his, and he kisses you tenderly as if for forever.
And you look up and see him, as if all the world were contracted thus into the one, the one wise man in the world of Tamriel. The one wonderful man who even the daedra would weep to see unloved and loveless. The one man who desires you.
And then he whispers an endearment that would even seduce the stars to sing of love and life....
And then he whispers, as he leads you to his bed and board, a life of love and passionate desires:
"Without further ado, let's do furniture...."
Which we could say the same about your body count
I just found out this if you don’t discover you’re the Dragonborn and don’t kill any dragons until you meet the one in the soul cairn it unlocks some exclusive dialogue options. He’ll call you a “vanquished of a fellow dragon” in dragon language. You can ask him why he said that and he’ll say he isn’t sure, that it was instinct to call you a fellow dragon and that one day maybe you’ll both discover why that is. Because you’re the Dragonborn.
I didn't get a notification. I just opened youtube at the right time
me too mate
same
same
the 4th here
5th
Every Forsworn tribal leader ever: "No, *I'm* the leader of ALL the Forsworn!"
13:45 "hid the body" was the exact opposite of what you were supposed to do. It was meant to be found immediately.
Shhhhhhhhh 🤫🤫
I was about to comment this. It's a nit-pick, to be sure, but an accurate one.
@@Luke32336 it's not a nit-pick. He made a statement that directly contradicts game dialogue that he used to back up the statement. It's a glaring, careless error. And I see them too often in this dude's videos.
@@Luke32336 just a clarification, since you don't seem to be aware. A nit is the egg of a louse, and is incredibly tiny. Picking out the nits is the most time consuming and irritating part of treating a lice infestation, as it is very hard to see them in the hair and on the scalp. Picking nits or nitpicking is to pick at something so small as to be nearly impossible to notice.
In colloquial use, this is in reference to pulling out and drawing attention to a detail so tiny that it would normally not even be noticed, bordering on irrelevant.
In this case, Nate literally stated one thing, and then played a clip of the NPC stating the exact opposite, i.e., "hide the body," followed by "make sure it is found as quickly as possible in a major city."
This isn't a detail so small and irrelevant that few would even notice. A nitpick, this is not.
@Giin I'm glad you brought up irrelevance. The main point of this video is "who is the matriarch/those chickens are up to something" and the line in question points you to their main base. As it's only vaguely related to the point of the video, it hardly matters that he was incorrect/misspoke, because it doesn't undermine the main point, therefore nit-pick.
Really enjoying your videos , I m a grandma whos grandson got me playing a few years ago , I really love it , am constantly amazed by it, and have learned so much from you about it , thanks for all you do , your videos are top shelf !
Hagravens were going to harness the power of Meridia's Beacon but they found it and were so distraught by Meridia's voice they fled into caves.
I don’t get it, that is one of my favourite quests.
*A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEAC-* **throws hammer at tv**
@@McPlayer8t its because of how obnoxious the start of the quest is.
I was 11 the first time I found that beacon. I didnt find it until I was looting the cave I had just killed Boethiahs champion in and had no health. Scared the hell outta me; ive never spun around swinging so fast
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim not the quest, Merida herself. Her attitude basically comes off as 'you are mortal ants under my shoes and must do what I say.'
Sheogorath and Sanguine are my two favorites. They're two of the more entertaining ones
Nate: FORGET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT "X"
me, just after binging all of Nate's videos on that person: ok
oH JESUS that scared me
He almost gave me a heart attack
It was a dark room and I just put my headphones on... Almost fell down the stairs.
that opening was (excuse my langauge) fucking terrifying
I love how you mentioned that there are no associated quests to do with Hag's End dungeon, and 10 minutes after starting up Skyrim, i get 3 fetch quests to Hag's End back to back from Markarth. I think there is a high chance of Hag's End being Markarth's fetch quest locations, forcing you to come here to get these fetch quests done. One of which was this was where they put the Priest For Molag Bal's quest.
I feel like the developers was planning to use the harp sound whenever the hagraven teleports, but ultimately decided that it wouldn't fit in
glad they didnt.. cause its dreadful..
as a no fk's giving dragon born.. i do give fks about the health of my ear drums...
soon as the hag teleported to the next room after i beat her the first fight.. she'd be like "ok peoples.. get ready.. the dragonborn is coming"
then 1hr passes by.. 2.... 3.... 4 hrs..
she would have been like "um.. hello.. dragonborn... where'd u go... ur suppose to kill me.. stop me from world domination"
me in markarath inn telling stories to the wenches *then there was this ungodly sound... so i left. fk it.. i can twerk to that... and here i am with you.. my lovely wenches... just grab as much gold as i could on my way out the dungeon... so FREE BEERS ON ME...." 😂
@@InanisNihil TBH, free rounds in Skyrim would probably be like a blessing from the nine lol. IDK how anybody affords anything in Skyrim, considering the average citizen can't wander the countryside/raid the dungeons for loot. Even as the Dragonborn, you don't really make money from them until you're high level & then you're selling Daedric gear which, considering the source, it should be worth a lot
I'd guess they were considering making the witches more interesting. The first room is rather well decorated and comfy. having music with dinner wouldn't be bad.
i think that youd enter a room with a beautiful female playing the harp. and when you interupt her she becomes the hagraven
@@kaiseremotion854 that or maybe one of the coven members is playing. Maybe it didn't get implemented because they didn't have a harp playing animation? it seems simple but probably isn't.
Actually, "Forsworn" means you broke an oath.
"Cursed Oathbreakers, your honor’s in pawn And worthless the vows you have made, Justice shall see you where others have gone, Delivered to those you betrayed!"
And that NPC's dialog says the opposite of what you did. It said to make sure the body is found quickly.
eh? Doesn't "Forsworn" mean to have lied under an oath?
@@HexArtificer-old-e9s You're thinking of Perjury, which is a type of forswearing, but being Forsworn is more general. Other acts than simple lies can cause it to happen. For example, if you make an oath or vow never to eat a hamburger again, and you later eat one, you have broken that oath, and are forsworn.
As much as I enjoy Nate's videos he doesn't do a good job at fact checking himself.
In this case he got two quests confused.
She didnt tell you to hide the body, gabriela told you to make it easier for the body to be found.. u should just leave the body anywhere in a major city... I hopr this observation is useful
I came here to say this
Dude. You deserve to be on a straight up paycheck directly from Bethesda. Your coverage of all elder scrolls lore is complete and interesting. You rock.
hearing Hagravens heavy raspy breathing in the dark was terrifying
Old comment but I have to agree the sound when I first heard it in one of the fort towers during the night creeped me out since I was not familiar with the lay out of the tower all I know was the sound was very close but I head no idea where it was really coming from until much later. I could not help but be remined me of the "Regenerators" from resident evil 4.
*Todd Howard:* "we need new interesting ideas for the elder scrolls"
*Nate:* uhhh...sir....
*Todd Howard:* "ANYWAY we need new interesting ideas for the elder scrolls...."
Lod the Blacksmith is obviously the most powerful man in Skyrim, at least in my play through. He has the undying loyalty of the Dragonborn, who can call at least 2 dragons to his aid, a few dozen of the most powerful men and women, and summon a multitude of conjurations to his side.
Who would even have need of two dragons at that point? Given the Dragonborn's mastery of The Thu'um, which is impossible to replicate in the life span of a single mortal, nobody could even stop them by force
Now, if Alduin/Miraak, etc... show up looking to party, by all means, summon away
@@Altair1243WAR just to flex
*Alduin is saying fuck you in dovah*
"BOO! Did I scare you? Sorry, I'm trying to be more exciting..."
Last time I was this early Alduin was sent forward in time.
I always get super excited when one of these gets posted! I just immediately drop everything I'm doing because this is more important.
Every time he says “let’s see what eso has to say” I think of eso the RUclipsr
Same
. . . Collab????? I want a collab now
It used to happen to me
Me too.
Me: "This looks like a neat cave."
Forsworn: "Never should have come here!!"
Also me: *bashes their face in with shield* "And that is done"
The afterlife has great internet connection, I got here early!
Pelinal? But You Died
Or did he?
this one met a cult that worships you in morrowind. sadly, they attacked. this one was forced to kill them. this one hopes you are not upset at that.
Hi, I just started watching your video's, well only the Skyrim ones. I have so many questions but fear to ask. Just wanted to let you know I really enjoy your content and will be watching and liking more of course. Keep up the good work. If you are the one editing the video's, well done, most enjoyable to watch.
Dammit Nate, I’m trying to sleep lol thanks for the bedtime story
Same man
I listen to nate and camel a lot while going to sleep. Really good and really informative videos, great for listening to while grinding on a game or while laying down to sleep or just relax.
What the fck falling asleep to this Aswell
The theory I want to believe is that the Hagraven we fought in Hag's End was akin to a second in command, left behind in place of The Matriarch, which is why the unique Hagraven had no actual name but was still powerful.
Why I want to believe this theory is because it would mean that The Matriarch is still hiding and active, and possibly more powerful then we think, and with the Bloodthorn dagger, it might be a hint as to what the Matriarch's true plan might be, the union of all the Forsworn clans, and then improve them by turning a majority into vampires and werewolves, alongside more biarhearts and hag-hagravens.
Can you imagine a unified Forsworn clan empowered by their old magics, briarhearts, shamans, hags-hagravens, forsworn vampires and forsworn werewolves. They would be powerful at all times of the day, especially during the night.
Hell let's go more crazy with this theory, maybe The Matriarch is AWOL because she is in the process of trying to establish a form of alliance with the reach's Falmor, in the place of Vampires, now can you imagine a Reach alliance of a united Forsworn clan and the Reach's Falmor? This would allow the Forsworn to not just have the likes of the Falmor and their Chaurus amongst their ranks, but also allow them to spread deep into the mountains of the Reach, and possibly even take over old Dwemer ruins turning them into Forsworn/Falmor fortresses akin to Blackreach.
Just the thought of Falmor empowered by old magic thanks to the Hagravens is a terrible 'and awesome' idea.
awesome theory, honestly could make as a good quest for the next game
I was thinking the same thing and that the Wolf Queen Potema could be the matriarch in question, or a deadra perhaps. Would have made for an awesome side quest. Who knows, maybe Elisif is just secretly evil.
Eh... I've already killed most of the falmer. Doubt they would have enough to start an army with them.
I actually took "The Matriarch" to just be a title the Foresworn refer to their female chiefs as.
That's actually a pretty good theory
Or Madanach..
@@SamDy99 Hey, they might call him "Matriarch" too. I could certainly see Madanach demanding he be called "Matriarch" because it makes him feel pretty.
@@mesektet5776 the "king in the rags" sounds more badass tho lol
You're right matriarch means female head leader so if it was male he would be called patriarch
Plot twist: This expansion is a prelude to a new Skyrim DLC.
Hot take: The Matriarch does rule over all forsworn. Madenach is also king of all forsworn. The Matriarch and Madenach are just in a long distance relationship. He's been in prison a while, ya know.
She's so gonna get her cloaca wrecked when he comes home on the games he's freed.
You're welcome for the mental image.
@@NWolfsson you really had to put that out there huh? Couldn't have kept that to yourself?
@@YlvaTheRed Sorry, some truths are too strong to be contained in a single mind.
Hey man, SOMEBODY has to read all those letters Madanach's apparently been writing.
was he tricked into the marriage by a certain god as well?
I cleared Hag's end literally 20 minutes before I saw that you uploaded, was wondering about the notes lol
Well Gabrielle wants him to be discovered and for the note to be seen, not vice versa.
Suggestion for you. Fair warning this could be something that's very commonly known and I'm just that new. But there's something strange about the town of Rorikstead. Specifically with the crops and Jounae, the healer and one of the founders. The villagers all boast about how great the crops are. The companion Erik even says they've never had a bad harvest no matter the conditions. The second founder says that the land the village was built on used to be impossible to farm because nothing would ever grow. Sorry if this is old news.
Camel made a video on this topic already
Nick please do a video on the warnings of “dark times” that the Jarl of Morthal keeps warning us about, I’m replaying the game and heard that and it struck my curiosity and I figure if anyone knows anything about it.... it’s you!
Probably just the second great war between the empire and the elves. Or the vampire threat... Or the fact one of her court is plotting against her ... Or the forsworn themselves... there are endless possibilities really
@@laurene988 Which is why we investigate. Gotta figure out which has supporting information
I love how your content just gets better on such a simple premise. Keep it up!
Obviously they were planning on forcing you into marriage
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@@nudlz5343
Source: Elf-san Wa Yaserarenai, Chapter 38
Character: Oga-san
Sauce of the pic: twitter.com/synecdoche445/status/1268826353073180672
Sounds Very kinkyyyyyyyyyyy.
God no
these are now my favourite style of nates videos but they must be the biggest pains to write and make in general so mad respect
Sup! You were the reason I got Fallout 4! Love your lore vids!
It’s a great game! He makes it even better
He's the reason I got Fallout 4 too!
Hope u post soon bro, can barely handle waiting for your content it’s that good! Keep it up!👍👍
I expected you to talk about how the hagravens created the Briarhearts in the Forsworn Briarheart Ritual at Bard's Leap Summit/Lost Valley Redoubt rather than the "hidden/unique boss" at Hag's End at the edge of the map and word wall followed by the DB quest-line side-mission with ancient DB armor upon a return visit.
This is one of my Favorites. The assumption/lore of early skyrim. I love things discovered like this. Well Done Nate!
She ain't very strong if u can just fus ru da her off the ruins :>
The thing about Gravity is that no F's are given to anyone. If you don't have some sort of countermeasure prepared, you could be Maxos from the Divinity universe & still die if it's high enough. Power is irrelevant at that point
Exactly. By the time I got to the final fight spot I was so sick of her shit and just immediately shouted her off the roof. Though honestly I half expected her to just teleport away again and was pleasantly surprised when she thudded to the ground.
I just found out today that when you kill a Briar-Heart, when you take the briar from their inventory, it disappears from their chest! I think that's super neat.
I literally built an illusion stealth theif (almost no combat skills) purely so I could do this
@@NotTheHeroStudios :o I wanna try that now!!!
@@maelavdrak all you do is trail illusion, sneak, pickpocket, and one hand (or bow) so you have some sort of combat abilities as you level. Or you can do illusion only combat where you just frenzy everyone and go invisible. Or use the necromancer stone / conjuration
The last is really up to you, but just level illusion until you can easily cast invisibly and muffle, sneak to well sneak around, and pickpocket so you can have the perk that let's you take anything and done.
You can also do potion making and reverse pickpocket deadly poisons on people and it should kill them.
Enjoy Breton works best imo
@@NotTheHeroStudios Ooooo thank you for the tips! I'm writing this down so the next time i get a skyrim kick, i'm doing this!
@@maelavdrak it's a really fun build and you can easily turn it into a puppet master build once you're done messing around. You can also use the alternative start mod to prevent dragon spawns until you're ready as that build can't do... Well anything to dragons.
11:30 or some dev accidentally put his phone's ringtone into the game?
I have been seeing your videos like crazy these last days, because of the scenes you take in convination of your descriptions I'm convinced that you are the best youtuber for videogames in my opinion.
I started watching a year or so back for your skyrim content. Because of you and your fascinating voice I've bought the special edition and fallout 4. Thank you man
Forsworn : You killed our brothers and sisters and murdered our Supreme leader
Dragonborn : Huh? That teleporting bird? I don't even remember how I killed her. Anyway I need that drum for someone (proceeds to clear the remaining guys)
Omg Nate I love your vids and I've been bingeing all of them for the past 2 months. Keep it up man. You're content is all I watch anymore🖤💯
Careful guys, there is a jumpscare at the beginning.
Interesting... Great vid. i love the forsworn and always wished they had more content. I would have backed them as the real faction of Skyrim if I had ever been given the choice. They're the real people of Skyrim.
You can sort of back them in the Cidna mine quest.
evil character?
@@eyesack6845 no, I just didn't know at first that they were bandits. I drank with Sam Guevenne and that was the first time I entered Markarth, and I can't remeber why I ended up in prison. Anyway I met Madanach and believed his whole spiel. So when I escaped I went to the nearest forsworn camp, honestly thinking I'd joined. 😅
@@fredthurbin5795 well you said that you would join. and you know they're evil now.
@@eyesack6845 true... Wow maybe I was evil. I did do every Daderic quest
I love how I've never played an elder scrolls game but I can easily watch these videos because of the insanely detailed backstory you give.
So, in terms of hierarchy, one could say that the Matriarch is the... Reach-onal Manager? Heheheh, not sorry!
Nate: Boo! Did I scare you?
Me: ahhhhhhh (throws phone across the room)
You’re the reason I still play Skyrim 😂😂 always finding new shit
True always wait for a new nate skyrim video
When I read those notes, I always assumed each Forsworn tribe had its own Matriarch leader which were often or always Hagravens.
Imagine if Skyrim had actually been finished and included all intended content
It might have still been in development up to the present day were that the case. Just getting rid of all the bugs would have cost them several years worth of work. I mean, there are sooooo many bugs in this game that every time I fire it up, I pull out a new can of Raid Bug Spray.
@@phillipallen3468 meh, they'd just let the modders fix the bugs themselves.
Bethesda develops games as shells to be filled and finished by the players. Or at least, that seems to be their unofficial stance. They decide the canon, but the players perfect the execution.
I don’t think my console would be able to handle that 😭✋
One would hope this is why Elder Scrolls VI is taking so long, but I doubt it.
@@FredRated1967 that would be awesome but I won't get my hopes up
Great video as always Nate!
Btw at 9:54 I love to FUS RO DAH on the Hagraven as she stands so close to the edge! 10/10 would do it again!
Ah!
That intro scared me Nate. Don't do that again.
Just wanted to comment how much I love your videos. I always enjoyed the secret/conspiracy aspects of Bethesda games. And you masterfully explain them all.
Last time I was this early the gate to oblivion wasn’t opened!
Nate: "She may very well be the third most powerful individual in all of Skyrim"
Dragonborn: "who's the second?"
Maven
Chicken
Last time I was this early, I got decapitated at Helgen
One detail for you Nate!!! if you go to Liz (the spider that is the pet of the dark brotherhood) you will find the bones of Gaston Bellefort, a Breton that is the author of the night mother’s truth. There’s also a note on him explaining how he found the Sanctuary and tried to go in.
That sounds great! Is it also possible to do one explaining who fired the first shot in Fallout's nuclear war? After the new 76 lore my money is on the Zetans. I think each side thought the other shot the space station down when it was the Zetans all along.
A year later, I think this would be a really cool topic to touch up on, given the Markarth Chapter in ESO and all the related lore about the Reachmen within.
It explains WHAT hagravens are, defining their relationship with the Reachmen (they're wise women and witches of the clans that make a pact with Nocturnal to become greater, which is why they transform into twisted crones with a crow motif). In almost all cases, the clans are LITERALLY led by a Hagraven because they are spiritual leaders who took that extra step in the name of the clan.
It also goes into much greater detail about Briarhearts, the ritual, and how Hagravens create the plant and the warriors. This you could already piece together in Skyrim, but having the details laid out neatly is nice.
Plus, it paints the Reachmen as overall much more sympathetic "villains," at least as far as Skyrim is concerned. You get to learn their culture in detail, and discover the millennia of oppression their people have faced, especially from the Nords, which honestly explains pretty much everything about their attitudes by the time the events of Skyrim begin.
Easily one of my favorite ESO chapters.
I knew those Witches were Up to Sumthin:(
Deepwood redoubt is where you get the REAL shrouded armor . . . I think.
Last time I was this early I beat Tullius to Solitude
Two game plot points I always thought Bethesda really missed the boat on... the Forsworn Queen and the Whiterun Seer. Would have been excellent if there were multiple ways to get tokens for different readings for different unique gear.
Why not name her then?
They already alluded to her existence, afterall.
So that players have something to theorize about
Also possible that the Matriarch had a higher role to play, but was scaled back and cut out, leaving the notes and the odd teleporting effect as the only remnants. Sadly I don't think mods that add cut content like Cutting Room Floor makes that connection with her being the Matriarch either.
Cut/unfinished content would be my guess. don’t have time to finish the quest then just leave in what you have and it still looks cool
Yeah, definitely an abandoned side quest.
@@michaelzebley1673 It would be a major plot at that point. Not just any old sidequest, considering the implications it holds for the reach
Yo Nate I love your videos! You explain the lore so well I hope you can make a video explaining the history of the factions in ESO like the Aldmeri Dominion.
Next : "looks like Mammuths were planning something"
I love your videos, the
lore of Skyrim is amazing and hard to dig into so it's nice to listen
Love these crossover videos where you link Skyrim lore with ESO. Have been playing both for years and didn't link all that much lore together for myself. Great work; you make me want to study TES lore more closely.
I’m happy you guys are still making videos on this game I believe your a big part of keeping this game relevant in 2020
Damn. Im early to the party.
these are like game theory but for skyrim. honnestly these are amazingly fantastic. keep up the good work my man. fricking love what you are doing
"3d most powerful individual in all of Skyrim, behind General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak "
Master Arngeir, Miraak, Harkon: Am I a joke to you? (actually even excluding Dragonborn and Alduin I'm pretty sure there are few more insane char that could pose a serious threat to Skyrim but can't think of them on top of my head.)
When the Dragonborn has reached true ultimate potential, there's no one who can stand before such a powerful character. No one. My little girl Dragonborn can one-shot any type of dragon with just her Unrelenting Force shout. Turns them to gooey powder in a snap. Now who can stand before that?
Hes talking about the most influence. Tullius and Ulfric were strong because of their strong armies. He talked about The Matriarch in that topic
@@josephjoestar9952 Yea but harkon also has an army
The children are obviously the most powerful things in the universe
I summoned a dragon, shouted at them, pelted them with arrows and burned them with spells and not a scratch. There's nothing more powerful than that
I found the cave leading to hags end by accident once, fought my way through it and killed the boss hargraven, but i always thought there was a quest there and I just fumbled it by not taking it before heading there