Same. I started doing this and it has a lot better success than I ever imagined it would. I have never seen someone trying to do me dirty get so deflated-looking.
I tried this but they always come back and keep trying to push their issue and make themself the victim and no matter how many times I tell them how I feel they act like their feelings are the only ones that matter
@queenmills9870 Let them be the victim. Just say ok. It's hard to accept that someone you love doesn't love you. The reality is that it is a trauma bond. People who love you care about how they make you feel. Spend your energy healing, not arguing. You will feel so much better when you are out of the FOG.
Always tell people never ever argue with them. You will never ever win!! The more you try the more they gaslight and play the victim. Just say ok or remain quiet eventually they will rage and get mad, but they will soon calm down they will still be pissed, but you give them no fuel.
I have texts, recordings, and eye witness and other folks accounts of my ex's lies and problematic behaviors and he still lies and has flying monkeys believing his story when I'm the one with actual receipts. But, as you said, the smear campaign he's pulling and the folks supporting him with no questions asked is a good way to filter out the ones who don't need to be in my life. On the plus side, it's actually bringing me even closer with a lot of others, but the most important is that it's bringing me closer to myself again.
My narcissistic was a chronic liar, every time I called him out about it he just said , " If there's anything I hate it's being called a liar " but he said it with rage !
I'm still shocked at how HUGE the lies my ex told me. I'm quite disgusted at this persons behaviors and actions that he was doing behind closed doors now that I know the truth. I'm just SO thankful that I know the truth and no longer have to be in a relationship with this person anymore.
I went through this this past summer. My niece accused me of having an affair with my best friend’s husband. I called her out on her lie and she told me the whole family knew. I asked how that could be since I didn’t know I’d had an affair? I pointed out she had to be the one that started the rumor and she got a panicked look on her face when she realized she was caught but then doubled down on the lie. Fortunately for me I cut off contact with most of my family members years ago but to have someone who claims they care about you make up vicious lies because she doesn’t get her way is just mind boggling.
My past person’s trigger word was : HYPOCRITE. 😂I would present facts and he would argue about nothing. No resolution. No growth. No second chances! Just blocked and closed the chapter.
I will surely become a member come December. Trying to get back on my feet , but I know I can do this. I watch the channel every day and you deserve so many, many memberships
A couple of days ago I got that “good morning” text. Yes I said it back 🥴 right after that I got the “ you told me not to call you” I said yes I did, you know why, keep it that way and have a good day‼️
My mom just did this. I heard her on the phone with another family member & making it seem like im just irritable with her for no reason, but what she failed to tell that family member on the other end was about her HEAVY DRINKING W/ RX MEDS & that her behavior as a result is WHY I'm irritable with her & how it makes her behave like a 4yr old. She has done this for years. No one on the outside knows her real side while intoxicated, but they only hear her side & have already formed an opinion. Only a few people have backed away from her and realized that her behavior is sketchy, but everyone else, they think she's an angel sent from heaven🤦🏾♀️. I just learned to let them think what they want, because just like the few family & friends who figured out something is wrong with her & backed off, eventually, others will catch on. I just act like i don't even notice what's she's doing. Translation, i just deal with the manipulative abuse in silence
its their guts to actually think you will do whatever they feel or force you to do, their minds are 10 times more degrading and non sensical compared to a one year old child who throws tantrums when they cant snatch another child's toy ,they have no guilt of wasting someone's time and messing their work time like a shameless tantrum throwing one year old kid
I could be the minority in this opinion, but I don’t think Will is a narc. Sometimes when you are with someone so long, you develop some of those traits but he was always “Team Jada.” Jada, however, was not for him, she wasn’t even feeling the marriage. With them being “separated,” and him so in love with her, I believe the nonsense he did at the Oscars was to once again prove his love to her. I think he has been doing it the entire marriage (I read the book too) and that whole fiasco was a reflection of this. Now if he turns around and broadcasts a smear campaign against her as she is doing to him, maybe I’ll feel differently. This is all just my opinion.
He's a DL man allegedly. He has also cheated ,and accepted an open relationship..he may not handle things exactly like her and be the same type of narcissist. But he's a certain type of narcissist in my personal opinion just like this guy said. He isn't a victim neither is she they're both willing participants. She can't make him slap anyone to prove anything as a grown man who threw a narcissist tantrum like they tend to do out of shame. Will seems to be a vulnerable narcissist if anything a whole people pleaser and victim. Like he said he isnt responding because he has no room to talk😂😂😂
I just wanna tell you thank you bunches and bunches and bunches and bunches. I know that some people may think that a narcissist, putting out a video has an agenda. I think you because I really truly believe that your agenda for six years already is to change the things that you have that were not awesome . You have helped us so so much end it awesome to hear from your point of view from a narcissist angle. How do you have seen things. I also want to let you know that just because you were diagnosed as a narcissist, and getting the help you do DOES NOT, DOES NOT, DOES NOT Mean that you cannot be a narcissist someday. Please, please know this! I was a love bombing person that came back to the narcissist, and didn’t realize it. It all makes sense. I have been married 20 years to this one.
My ex lied to me and her next partner at the same time..sat us down and 'came clean'. all the trust went out the window and she still lies and i just no longer care. She left me and it is for the best.. it is for the best.
What happens when he won’t leave? 💀 He monitors so he literally re-angers himself & makes me & my loved ones pay. Dated eight months. Eight years later, here I am asking this. I last spoke voluntarily to him in 2016.
this behaviour is crazy, and its kind of fascinating that its a pattern in all narcissistic people. I get what NPD is but why do they act this way - is it a neurological thing?
In my experience I would use broken record when being drawn into an argument. Just say the same thing over and over like I'm not going to discuss this, I'm not changing my mind, something like that. One time he jbbed me with word to trigger me into the discussion for three solid days and nights. But what happened was I said the not discussing that. And he opened his mouth with it again and I don't know because it wasn't a conscios thought to go off on him I just subconsciously couldn't tolerate the way this disrespects me, lowered his value in my eyes big time, the boring content, it was like being forced to say the abc's for three days, it told me he must really get a lot of feelings of power doing this because I doubt he would do boring ish for three days. It really was boring . Arguments are boring AF.
Just say ok to whatever they believe. Im learning to let people live in whatever reality they choose. It has nothing to do with me.
The comment I didn’t know I needed. Thank you.
Same. I started doing this and it has a lot better success than I ever imagined it would. I have never seen someone trying to do me dirty get so deflated-looking.
I tried this but they always come back and keep trying to push their issue and make themself the victim and no matter how many times I tell them how I feel they act like their feelings are the only ones that matter
@queenmills9870 Let them be the victim. Just say ok. It's hard to accept that someone you love doesn't love you. The reality is that it is a trauma bond. People who love you care about how they make you feel. Spend your energy healing, not arguing. You will feel so much better when you are out of the FOG.
@sherryc.1673 love this “live in whatever reality they choose”
Can’t fight with “reality” nor their version of “the facts!”
Not all liars are narcissists but all narcissists are liars. 💯
Always tell people never ever argue with them. You will never ever win!! The more you try the more they gaslight and play the victim. Just say ok or remain quiet eventually they will rage and get mad, but they will soon calm down they will still be pissed, but you give them no fuel.
I have texts, recordings, and eye witness and other folks accounts of my ex's lies and problematic behaviors and he still lies and has flying monkeys believing his story when I'm the one with actual receipts. But, as you said, the smear campaign he's pulling and the folks supporting him with no questions asked is a good way to filter out the ones who don't need to be in my life. On the plus side, it's actually bringing me even closer with a lot of others, but the most important is that it's bringing me closer to myself again.
Same here. You said this beautifully. Good for you.
Me too she denies everything
Your respect for Dr. Ramani is much appreciated. Great move/ restraint!
One that I used with excellent success was “I disagree, and you aren’t going to convince me otherwise.” She had no idea what to say.
My narcissistic was a chronic liar, every time I called him out about it he just said , " If there's anything I hate it's being called a liar " but he said it with rage !
Yes they wil do exactly that...
They love to turn an argument into vegetable 9:03 soup, throw everything into one pot!
I'm still shocked at how HUGE the lies my ex told me. I'm quite disgusted at this persons behaviors and actions that he was doing behind closed doors now that I know the truth. I'm just SO thankful that I know the truth and no longer have to be in a relationship with this person anymore.
I needed to hear this today especially. Thank you. Some days the effects of the smear campaign are harder to deal with than others.
I totally agree. You are spot on. Some days, it’s no big deal for me and other days, it really bothers me. And she isn’t even in my life anymore,
I went through this this past summer. My niece accused me of having an affair with my best friend’s husband. I called her out on her lie and she told me the whole family knew. I asked how that could be since I didn’t know I’d had an affair? I pointed out she had to be the one that started the rumor and she got a panicked look on her face when she realized she was caught but then doubled down on the lie. Fortunately for me I cut off contact with most of my family members years ago but to have someone who claims they care about you make up vicious lies because she doesn’t get her way is just mind boggling.
This is the one right here, Lee. I may not argue again in life
No lies told...no pun intended...he still lying and we not together
My past person’s trigger word was : HYPOCRITE. 😂I would present facts and he would argue about nothing. No resolution. No growth.
No second chances! Just blocked and closed the chapter.
🎉 congrats on releasing your book! It's in my Amazon cart with the I Love Me Journal... Ready to purchase them when my paycheck hits tomorrow ❤
🙌🏾♥️
I will surely become a member come December. Trying to get back on my feet , but I know I can do this. I watch the channel every day and you deserve so many, many memberships
Lol it definitely goes from one thing to another and now we don’t even know what we were talking about at first smh
A couple of days ago I got that “good morning” text. Yes I said it back 🥴 right after that I got the “ you told me not to call you” I said yes I did, you know why, keep it that way and have a good day‼️
Aww, It's out!!! Awesome! Go Lee!! Congrats!!!
My mom just did this. I heard her on the phone with another family member & making it seem like im just irritable with her for no reason, but what she failed to tell that family member on the other end was about her HEAVY DRINKING W/ RX MEDS & that her behavior as a result is WHY I'm irritable with her & how it makes her behave like a 4yr old. She has done this for years. No one on the outside knows her real side while intoxicated, but they only hear her side & have already formed an opinion. Only a few people have backed away from her and realized that her behavior is sketchy, but everyone else, they think she's an angel sent from heaven🤦🏾♀️. I just learned to let them think what they want, because just like the few family & friends who figured out something is wrong with her & backed off, eventually, others will catch on. I just act like i don't even notice what's she's doing. Translation, i just deal with the manipulative abuse in silence
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The noise made by tennis players actually increases their strength. Martial artists do the same thing. Use their breath and voice
This really helped me. Thank you.
Bro! I didnt know you were in NC! I live in SC!! You’ve helped me so much man… THANKS.
I'm going through this right now. She mad that I left.
its their guts to actually think you will do whatever they feel or force you to do, their minds are 10 times more degrading and non sensical compared to a one year old child who throws tantrums when they cant snatch another child's toy ,they have no guilt of wasting someone's time and messing their work time like a shameless tantrum throwing one year old kid
Most celebrities are narcs.
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Total facts
My ex use to tell me I’m a know it all and i think I’m better then him because i know big words like manipulation and gas lighting. 😂
Wow man you made me laugh so hard about your Harry Potter sorting hat 🤣 but very true
Yes!
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I could be the minority in this opinion, but I don’t think Will is a narc. Sometimes when you are with someone so long, you develop some of those traits but he was always “Team Jada.” Jada, however, was not for him, she wasn’t even feeling the marriage. With them being “separated,” and him so in love with her, I believe the nonsense he did at the Oscars was to once again prove his love to her. I think he has been doing it the entire marriage (I read the book too) and that whole fiasco was a reflection of this. Now if he turns around and broadcasts a smear campaign against her as she is doing to him, maybe I’ll feel differently. This is all just my opinion.
He's a DL man allegedly. He has also cheated ,and accepted an open relationship..he may not handle things exactly like her and be the same type of narcissist.
But he's a certain type of narcissist in my personal opinion just like this guy said. He isn't a victim neither is she they're both willing participants.
She can't make him slap anyone to prove anything as a grown man who threw a narcissist tantrum like they tend to do out of shame. Will seems to be a vulnerable narcissist if anything a whole people pleaser and victim. Like he said he isnt responding because he has no room to talk😂😂😂
🧙 “flying monkey!” 😳😂😂😂😂
I just wanna tell you thank you bunches and bunches and bunches and bunches.
I know that some people may think that a narcissist, putting out a video has an agenda.
I think you because I really truly believe that your agenda for six years already is to change the things that you have that were not awesome .
You have helped us so so much end it awesome to hear from your point of view from a narcissist angle. How do you have seen things.
I also want to let you know that just because you were diagnosed as a narcissist, and getting the help you do DOES NOT, DOES NOT, DOES NOT Mean that you cannot be a narcissist someday. Please, please know this!
I was a love bombing person that came back to the narcissist, and didn’t realize it. It all makes sense. I have been married 20 years to this one.
I freaking said that about will and jada! Omg they are both narcs and im trying to figure out which one is the bigger one. My money is on Jada.
My ex lied to me and her next partner at the same time..sat us down and 'came clean'. all the trust went out the window and she still lies and i just no longer care. She left me and it is for the best.. it is for the best.
What happens when he won’t leave? 💀 He monitors so he literally re-angers himself & makes me & my loved ones pay. Dated eight months. Eight years later, here I am asking this. I last spoke voluntarily to him in 2016.
Can you get a no contact order from police?
this behaviour is crazy, and its kind of fascinating that its a pattern in all narcissistic people. I get what NPD is but why do they act this way - is it a neurological thing?
Why do they say they won’t argue with you about it and they want to talk in person?
I deleted all my proof i don’t even care no more i know what happened while he telling his new girl i left him and I’m the bad girlfriend
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In my experience I would use broken record when being drawn into an argument. Just say the same thing over and over like I'm not going to discuss this, I'm not changing my mind, something like that. One time he jbbed me with word to trigger me into the discussion for three solid days and nights. But what happened was I said the not discussing that. And he opened his mouth with it again and I don't know because it wasn't a conscios thought to go off on him I just subconsciously couldn't tolerate the way this disrespects me, lowered his value in my eyes big time, the boring content, it was like being forced to say the abc's for three days, it told me he must really get a lot of feelings of power doing this because I doubt he would do boring ish for three days. It really was boring . Arguments are boring AF.
8:01 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I call it mind checker's.... Lol
PLEASE OPEN YOUR CHAT UP SO I CAN SEND A CHAT...
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I would like to get you on the merry-go-round off you exhausted going around and around for hours in a conversation you didn’t ask to be in. 😓
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Trying here.🥴
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He texted me since 9/30/2023: an ❌.
What does it mean?
Who cares? Block his dumbass.
Sounds like a threat to me🤷🏾♀️
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