Central Park Five and the impact on American law
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- The new Netflix series "When They See Us" is reigniting debate over how police treated the Central Park Five during the investigation into the brutal attack on a female jogger in 1989. Attorney Paul Martin joined CBSN to explain what he thought of the original case and why the system is still rigged against black and brown teens.
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Now that the CP5 were proven innocent..can’t they do something to punish those detectives, prosecutors that basically beat them and coerced them to tell lies??? Honest question
Probably not in terms of prosecution due to statue of limitation
No prosecutors enjoy immunity. As for the police, I believe the statute of limitations has passed for assaulting a suspect.
They need to.
Bless your innocent heart Wndy but you’re being naive
@jill scottman I mean, I'm not on their side whatsoever so I support that lol. I'm just saying due to law and bias, nothing will ever be done except probably getting kicked out of high position seats at the organizations they're at. By this point though, they're probably too rich to care and won't lose sleep over it still.
The "Central Park Five" case is a pure example of how corrupt the justice system is in the US.
Charles Crandall I see your doing a good job at trolling in the comments section.
@S H That you're a pendejo?
Raped by 30 animals, but forget about the real victim.
@@StevenSanchez_95 I have no idea what you mean.
This is why Kap kneeled!!!🤔🧐
put a Cap in it.
yeah pretty much but they know this already because the system is designed this way
He kneeled for attention black people need money for better lawyers no kneeling
@ Lol not sure how his kneeling affects your life in any way.
@@yr7509 HE KNEELED TO SHED LIGHT ON WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW.
It took NYPD 50 years to apologize for Stonewall, it will take NYPD just as long to apologize to these 5 men.
One admits to holding her down.. check out Bernie maddofs victims rap sheets
It’s National Doughnut Day, their mouths are full.
Charles Crandall um. What law? Forcing teenagers to confess to a crime they didn’t commit?
Going into a lgbtq bar harassing and assisting them just because they could?
🤦♀️🙄
professor moriarty what? These 5 didn’t do anything. Where have you been for the last 30 years???
Charles Crandall I bet you’re white
They need to go back and look at the the people that were interrogated by these cops and review cases. No telling how many other kids were railroaded.
they never do that here in AmeriKKKa
@King Andres This happens to black people all across america
If the jogger was a black woman back in 1989 it wouldn't even got coverage.
Excellent point
Definitely, did you hear the male journalist say that there was 4 black women rape during the same time period but didn't get any coverage. Sad !
If 40 white people ran around central park attacking black people it would never stop being talked about. There would be be marker there to show the spot.
@@dbigtime10bt There were tons of white women raped at that time also who got no coverage. This was a big story because 40 kids were running around central park attacking people.
There were newspaper articles at the time about a black women who was raped.
@@jerrypeters2095 well if a white person went around attacking black people back then of course it would be everywhere because I know you are blind to it or over look it but we have a history of hangings and having discriminating laws towards black people so of course it would be everywhere.
During the case when they said the DNA did not match any of them I knew they weren't guilty.
DNA often times tells a false story. In this case it didn't but don't think DNA is a 100% proof way of solving things. For instance combing your hair and untangling the brush out the window could lead to a wind blowing it to a crime scene. Please don't act on emotions without looking at the possibilities first
@@Chris-yy5pj shut up, you still believe they are guilty?
Monsterrr19 he's saying the polar opposite. He's saying even if the DNA matches, it doesn't prove guilt because your DNA can accidentally be placed in places by natural elements.
@ you guilty of demonic living......get behind me Satan
There is no way that those 5 boys could have committed this crime and not have a transfer of dna.
The whole series was very sad but part 4 had me crying 😭
Zech Wilson same! I was balling uncontrollably.
I keep hearing about part 4. I finished part 1.
Zech Wilson im a grown man who balled my eyes out and I’m not ashamed. It could’ve been any one of us tbh 😭
Elaine Anderson you’re definitely in for it😞 let me know what you think 💭
S Mac exactly! They have the actual interviews here on RUclips and I was watching them it’s horrible.
Donald Trump owes these five men an apology.
Why when Joe Biden and other leftist signed the crime bill.
@Christopher at least trump stood up in their defence, right? Notice the year, 1989 😉 try again
www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2019/06/03/looking-back-trumps-involvement-1989-central-park-five-case/1212335001/
@Christopher Just another Troll Account.... Report and ignore, don't waste your time.
@@BillyBobJoeSnr exactly. So teenager or 30 something year old living with their parents
@88Crager unfortunately Trump doesn’t apologize.
Because they smile at you, it doesn't mean they are your friends. Sad, but we all need a lawyer standing by, just in case.......
Lawsuits and prison time should've been given to the prosecuters in this case.
In a perfect World, yeah
YES!!
Why? They put guilty boys/men in prison
I wonder about the ignorant juriors....when their dna did not match...they still convicted them.
Thank 45
The prosecutors went solely on the coerced statements that the young men signed.
When Kahane's murderer was freed by a jury you people cheered.
Thank you netfilx for airing this show. I didn't know about central park five but wow... I had so many emotional moments in the shows
I'm on episode #3 now! It's still happening now, just in different ways!
V. Lee Walker gurl I couldn’t watch it I’m too sad
V. Lee Walker it was good I just finished
Unite with each other and take over , only then will that breed wither
No Chanel Lewis is happening Now!!!
When you sign up to be a cop ,or prosecutor for the state you already know the business is to oppress blacks for your master.dont act like your hands ain't dirty sell out
Blah blah blah, always somebody else's fault huh.
@Christopher Just another Troll Account.... Report and ignore, don't waste your time.
Liberals and conservatives are all a part of the same system. They both take money from the same people/ organizations. We all know that 5 people, kids, cannot all rape someone and leave no evidence, at all?!?! Come on Fairstien & co!
Facts!
@@rsmzm2000 It's the black way, blame others and deflect
Just watched all the episodes of " When They See Us" . Very sad but eye opening series.
Dont you find odd that Trump is mentioned a lot? Look at the names of the producers, this story is sad, but it's being used for political reasons. That's the eye opener. They believe we are just puppets.
@@olivercito2011 maybe it's political, but you can't deny that Trump said all those things about the wrongfully convicted men
@@olivercito2011 For sure. Its the world we live in.
Incredible series! What these young boys went through brought tears to my eyes. We need serious justice reform now!
Stop racial profiling, police department reform and start charging the police for unethical interrogation, hold the police accountable. Too much to list. The system now sucks . Its become a war on the poor and less fortunate.
That won't happen. Presidential candidates will mention it while running for office but after that will just be some counseling infused. The system is working as designed.
@ intimidation of unaccompanied children is a dirtbag move as well as being illegal. You a cop? Cops like this are the problem.
Bless their struggle,bless those who deal with a crooked justice system.
Just say bless all black people in the hood
@@RICHMENca I'm certain because of the brutality I witnessed as a child towards brothers and sisters of more melanon, I've NEVER trusted pale people.
I could see their character by seven years of age.
Nothing's changed..
I pray for all who struggle but also more for those bashed by the cruel and indifferent.
Rich people been playing the divide and conquer game since Rome.
May God have mercy on their warped hearts
May God protect us from them.
Epigenetics...being Indigenous,
my ancestors would roll over in their graves if I sided with evil.
@@mgmassey174 there's no atrocity a white man has committed that a black man hasn't. You're just blinded by hatred. But hey, keep shitting on Martin Luther Kings message. It's a sad life you live.
@@drzaius1121
No atrocity a white man committed that a black man didn't ?
You can't be serious.
White men killed millions upon millions of people to establish a society.
Has black men done that ?
White men have molested children for centuries using "religion" to do so.
Has black men done that ?
I could go on and on,but it's pointless.
Never compare the morality of the "white" and "black" people.You waste your time because there is no comparison.History tells the story,all you have to do is listen.
RICHMENca j
Movie mess me up
I knew back then they were not guilty
I'm still spiritually shook and it's been 6 days now.
These two are really good news anchors that I can respect, they do real work and ask real questions without interrupting their guests.
I was just thinking that... Good observation😀
Since we can’t give them back the horrific time lost I hope that their story is able to make such an impact on the criminal justice system that hopefully they feel that they’ve lived for an incredibly noble cause and feel that perhaps there is a reason why they had to go through what they did by the end of their lives...
I can’t even imagine the pain though
As a mother I'm so glad I live in the UK and not America. America is a hot mess sort it out people
THE PPL ARE INNOCENT...
THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS THE PROBLEM....THE WHOLE SYSTEM
Now, just ask yourselves...How many more are there? So happy for these men; I hope they become advocates for others in the system, once they've acclimated to their lives in this new world. God bless them all!!!
The media needs to stop showing the mugshot pictures of these men. There are hundreds of other photos that can be used.
Alot of ppl would counter this argument and say Racism doesn't exist.
@ Lol...GTHOH!
ALWAYS A WHITE VICTIM!🙄🗣
"When They See Us" we are already guilty. We are not human in their eyes. We are worthless, vile, criminals. We are expendable.
When I was 14 -16 back in the early and mid 80s
I wasn't no way thinking about no raping of no one.
So why did you?
@ I was just using a example sir. That wasn't real for me. I was into karate back then real heavy.
Watch the documentary 13th. #REPARATIONS #PayWhatYouOwe
#SEPARATION
I absolutely love the idea of separation!!!
@juan hoshkaboo Lol I'm not African buddy, I just believe in segregation is all. Clearly integration has worked soo well....
#ADOS
@juan hoshkaboo thats all you got, go back to Africa yeah.
All people in prison should have their cases re-evaluated, retried, appealed.
What is the Supreme Court for anyway
That would be impossible
keep living in that fantasy world. The justice system is already backed up. Good luck trying to add more to it
Man! I was all the way in Chicago and I felt they were being railroaded. How could a place like New York be so naive and gullible as to think these boys were guilty.
There is no naivete involved. They knew exactly what they were doing. The system functions exactly how it was meant to.
They better tear the award shows up
Terry Long trust me, the actor for Korey wise deserves an Emmy
Thats a fact
Karma comes back 3× as hard.
If not the culprits, then definitely their offsprings and/or their loved ones. Best believe that!
@@enuphsayd9746 why does offspring have to suffer for the parents mistakes, bad logic
@@lumumba_realtor Well... you can get it too. I just know it's real: Karma has no special cut card for no one, dear. Have a bless day.
If Linda feels that her character was misrepresented and defiled then why doesn’t she sue defamation of character?
CORRECTION........How the judicial system treats BLACK people. Not to dismiss or diminish anyone else of color.
Why interview this lawyer if he had nothing to do with the CP5 and was aware but did not help. Arrest him.
Just finished watching the Netflix series and I couldn’t stop crying , poor korey what he went through the physical violence against him he had to endure, it breaks my heart
Send me all the people who are shocked....i got my baby powder ready!
I'm doing it Nipsey style ✋🏽
No words. thank you for uploading this video.
This is one of the best news segments I've seen on TV in ages. We need so much more programming that educates and discusses complex issues intelligently. Bravo!
So true. You have to wonder why doesn't the Fo卐 fake news service failed to do so despite their claims of being fair and balanced.
I'm so happy that they or out making a difference in the world keep up the good work but the laws need to change
glad you said that!...please continue to vote...learn the laws because it is important...blessings : )
All involved with sending these "children" to prison.."need" to be prosecuted and sent to prison!
Great interview!
I watched this movie this movie is the story of my life and my son it is 2019 and I'm going through this my son went to prison at the age of 17 he is still in prison at the age of 45 he is innocent!! They set him up at a young age I was out of town I wasn't there too protect him this is so true it's happening right now!! In 2019 I am so hurt I need help for my son!! He deserves a second chance he's a good child!!
I feel you & my heart goes out to you & your son! My brother has been gone for 23yrs, he's 46 & innocent as well. The person confessed & they're all still locked up anyway!
Don't both of you stop seeking for legal help. Do some research bc there are organizations that will take up a case pro bono. Stay bless and good luck to both you.
Forgive me if I’m overstepping, but Have any of you tried to reach out to the innocence project?
They should’ve named the Netflix original “How to make a rapist”
I was born 5yrs after this happened. I'm 25. Didnt even know about this until now
Chantel Arthur I’m 36 and didn’t know about this til now. Crazy
@@tinamarie7200 I know people are racist buy if a bigger deal would have been made about it im sure someone would have listened. Idk maybe I'm wrong but I know there are allies out there.
I well remember when the police criminals engaged in this conspiracy. Hitlerian reichster Rush Limpballs spent an entire week on it and inflamed racial hatred throughout the entire USA. Like his hero Trump, he never had the guts nor moral character to apologize when he learned the truth about the police criminals.
Life just waisted...just like that....just because of skin colour
Smh man! Facts!
That why this country is going to fall and never gain power ever again
Indeed
If just for one week we could stop the race war in America and start the wealth war between the poor and the rich....we could make sure things like this never happens again 🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️ GOD bless 🙏 them all...
The rich already pay way more in taxes for the poor to enjoy social services. What more do you want to take from the rich?
Sue the living daylights out of all of them, police, lawyers etc.
The woman host said this movie is a look at how the criminal justice system treats TEENS and MINORITIES...
Question: Are these "minorities" NOT TEENS... Her statement is a part of the problem.
Can't believe that they won't just take those who falsely accuse them to court. Also kids need to be taught about law and not to say anything until they have their parents there or lawyer. I hope the system is changed to protect all people and children.
Did he say they didn't have the investigative tools to exclude them totally?!! Such BS!! Their statements didn't match the crime scene or each others. On top of that, the same detectives working their case worked the rapist case and yall had his DNA. I'm tired of the excuses!!
And it was confirmed that the DNA did not belong to either boys. I say BS too!
@@enuphsayd9746 what were they doing there? Oh, that's right, committing crimes, they just got caught for the wrong one. .
@@shawnheenan9000 take a sit, troll. Today ill energy will pay you a visit. Be strong and be well.
I had no knowledge about this case at the time, and I lived in a different state than NY...when this was happening I was 5 years old...wasn’t aware of how the judicial system was nor that these innocent men weren’t treated fairly...Knowledge is power but since then I am more understanding of what happened than at the time this occurred...So some ppl didn’t know the extent of what was going on and were blinded by the truth is why it’s more outraged at this time than anything
Finally the idea that proper policing and investigations are rarely happening is getting light!. #JusticeAccountabilityNow
This is America
It was a good story and series but I’m glad I don’t live there
I swear, I said and been thunking the same thing after watching that movie series.
they came, they've conquered,and now they're dividing .....
It was really hard to watch. I was crying the whole time.
It's called lies not falsehood. They would not admit they did anything wrong. If they did that and they are called before the court it will work against them. They very well know they lied and did not have any evidence against the children. Evil and wicked to the core
They need to fix this system like today!
Given the climate at the time why was she running alone through a park in NYC after 9:00 pm in the first place?
Because she was looking for sex and drugs... It is obvious.
This prosecutor said he believed the verdict at the time... Why interview him
My skin is my sin! ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼 living in a white mans world.
It’s something really wrong with US of A.
And do not forget Donald Trump in all this.
The way these men found healing in their own lives and went on to make life better for others is JUST DOWNRIGHT INSPIRING. I cried a lot at the emotional and physical pain inflicted on these teens/men.. I am now an old white lady who grew up in a racially prejudiced community. It didn't make sense then and it don't make sense now..Thank God that Prayers and Justice won out. 💓
Such injustice 😭😭
One of the lead investors Mike Sheenan died a couple of days ago. I guess the guilt was too much.
Good to remind the world how Little Man Trump unfairly targeting these young boys for prosecution
Obama owes these men An apology and all of the Dems in the state and city of New York!
S H he was in office when they got arrested!
For all the racist:
Are we lying now??
lol you know they'll come up with some bs argument
A petition should be circulated calling for donald trump to publicly apologize for his $85k contribution to convictions of the 5 black youths labeled as the "central park 5.'
God bring justice to these young men.
He didn't think they were railroaded because he's a part of the system. He knows the tactics and as a prosecutor his interest is on a conviction not the truth
@Weldon Anderson Thank you for saying this...He can pander to us now but back then he wasn’t about to ruin his career✌🏾
Didn't have the investigative tools to exclude them totally at that time....?? How??? What tools?? WASN'T DNA the necessary investigative tool that DID exclude them??
DNA was in its infancy and not all cops were trained on how to collect DNA at a crime scene at that time. It was also very expensive to process. Now it's commonplace for cops to bag victim's and suspected perp's hands for scratches under the fingernails, etc., but what you see on TV is really not reality. DNA isn't tested in every case, especially when tons of other evidence exists.
@@universalsoldier2293 No apologies nor understanding warranted here when the DNA evidence came back as NO MATCH for all 14 or 17 "suspects" to include CP5 and prosecutors STILL reported it as inconclusive.
The tragic situation that happened to our Brothers the Central Park 5 ought to bring increase scrutiny, oversight, and pause unto all Local Police Departments and Sheriff Departments. It should strike terror in the hearts of the POPO and SherPOPO knowing that any instance or violation of the United States Constitution will bring swift judgment and recompence from the United States Constitution. And rightfully so!
What happened to the CP5 happens all over the country. It also happens to the poor whites as well. Certainly it occurs more to ppl of color.
I still think the jogger, the "victim" is complicit. I believe she was told to not tell the truth just so that they could get these boys.
Those detectives, cops, prosecutor are guilty of criminal conduct. God bring justice.
Can you imagine if those kids get the death penalty and years later found the real rapist this is not a joke an being a parent lost a Son over this
One of the innocent men lost his mother who died of grief because of this events. The cops should have been charged with her death and summarily executed via the electric chair. Strange how all the law-and-order right wingers who called for the execution of the innocents failed to call for the execution of the guilty.
This Guest is part of the system, this is a photo op for him! Any position he takes is just a vantage point on the coat tails of this situation for his benefit moving forward. Majority of shades of Brown people in authority are indoctrinated the way they need to be to get paid the same way their Pink counterparts are. the outcomes will continue to be the same. Case overseen by a brown judge will be handled by the same precedent used as a pink judge. True it is assumed that they will use personal experiences and background to glean from but the "BAR" is set and it is not by him/her... IJS
You said nothing but the truth!
Held her down
I thought the very same thing (not to be insensitive to the horrific act against the jogger) but I wondered who else was raped at the same time. And I figured race and socioeconomic status factored in.
I believe there had been several rapes in the park & the guy who confessed did those as well. But they never asked him about her nor tested his DNA.
Actually those who were victims and/or affected by the real culprit, should sue. While the state of NYC was busy with 5 INNOCENT boys, the real rapist moved on to do other harm in the community. That's negligent.
Ms. Winemaker you said a mouth full! The system failed the other victims as well.
How has anything changed? The justice system and country itself are as racist now as they've always been
They all should go to jail for life
Who? Make yourself clear.
There is an economic component to the justice system starting with bail...incarceration provides very cheap labor for companies ...it has been the labor base for many small family business.
NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE.
N E V E R
In Trinidad and Tobago our law system reflect that of the British. In it the burden of proof lie with the prosecutor, not the defendant. Is this not the case in the U.S?
Its supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty"........supposed to be anyway.
In the usa it is Reasonable doubt is a term used in jurisdiction of common law countries. Evidence that is beyond reasonable doubt is the standard of evidence required to validate a criminal conviction in most adversarial legal systems.
I just finished watching the 4 episodes.
ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT HANDLED THE CASE OF THESE FIVE BLACK MEN NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR PART. NO MAN, WOMAN, OR CHILD SHOULD HAVE ENDURED ALL OF THE PAIN THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE ENDURED.. MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL OF THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. STAY STRONG BE PROUD OF WHO YOU ARE EMBRACE YOUR STRUGGLE AND PAIN... ALWAYS HOLD YOUR HEAD UP HIGH AND ALWAYS KEEP YOUR FAITH.... JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED.... MY GOD SEATS HIGH AND LOOKS LOW.💕💕💕💕👊🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Lesson:Don't trust the SYSTEM!
This is what's going to happen. This series will be remembered AT MOST FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS and then the public will forget about it and its message and focus on something else. Are we forgetting that we are living in the Age of Distraction. So many things vying for the public's attention.
+ I went through something like this while going to College .
Not Karma but you reap what you sow. If not now on other side of this life.
Sooo sad and makes me 😠
In the 1950's and 1960's, all of this was common across the USA. At least it was in Los Angeles, CA, You learned very young to not ever trust a cop. No matter how good you were. They could and would hang any crime they imagined onto a teenager. Take you out of school, shove you out the door at Midnight and you had to walk 10 miles to come home to an angry parent. "What did you do? They wouldn't take you out of school if you hadn't done anything".
You learn really fast to never talk to a cop. No matter what.
They admitted to doing the crime.
tart70 since I have never beaten and raped a person to death, I would never admit to beating and raping a person to death. You make it seem like the men were tortured, but in reality they were just asked questions. The kids were never beaten into confessing, that’s a lie. 4 out of 5 of the guys admitted to being an accomplice to the rape on tape, with no bruises or cuts or any damage to their bodies. If they were beaten into confessing, they would be black and blue. They said that they held the jogger down and restrained her while she was raped, but didn’t rape her. The DNA test proved that she was raped but not by those guys, so their confession coincides with the evidence. They were accomplices to the rape. Also, when the raped and beaten woman woke up from her coma, 2 weeks later, she said that it was multiple people. While only one person raped her, it’s pretty clear that the others were there. This is all just leftist propaganda to make Donald Trump look bad because he spoke out against the 5.
@@stz9740 until you beaten. Half to death and forced to confess. If you want that experience you could make it happen but you cant tell others HOW to react. Go get your own experience.
chyena78 they were never beaten by the police. That’s a lie. They confessed to the crime on video and none of them had any cuts or bruises on their faces and bodies.
@@theconciousentreprenure They weak. They folded.
45 is the hate in this case!!!!!
So
Children....so sad
this happened to me, was facing 150 years 1994 for 2 counts of armed robbery, 2 counts of 2nd degree kidnapping & conspiracy to commit armed robbery, I spent 296 days in the county jail, was 18 yrs, lived with mother in public housing, the victims in the case stated , " he wasn't the guy that robbed us" , mean while I ended up a convicted felon from this anyway.
So sad. I hate that you went through that. God Bless you
Stop being a criminal. Why weren't you at work or with your family?
Albert did you read?? Smh
@@KGray-fp8cv He's a troll.
I wish they had asked his thoughts on false confessions, techniques of the officers, etc