I swear some of the older paint from like the 1920 was even better. There are some old farmers barns that still have the paint. Sure some has chipped here and there. I know 2 people that painted there summer decks and only 4 years later its almost gone. Unreal lol
That watercolor brand is "Kuretake" they are traditional Japanese watercolor colors. They have really good cuality, because the pigment doesn't separete, you could not been able to do that with a watercolor pallet cheaper 😂❤ There are awesome pearl colors that behave so interesting in a black canvas. As a watercolor painter I have enjoyed your video! Thanks!
Fun fact: you can turn miniatures into white thick crunchy absorbent paper - a number of brands like Daniel Smith do watercolour grounds that you can paint onto anything. They're a bit chunky and textured for most mini stuff but if you have something with big simple surfaces (a shield, banners, an entire titan if you're brave) it can be a really fun approach And your palette is from Kuretake's Gansai Tambi range; they are pretty nice, a really solid beginners set that I still reach for despite having much fancier options, though I probably shouldn't tell you just how expensive watercolours can get. Gansai is a little different to western watercolours; it's a bit stickier than our usual gum arabic binders, it rewets very easily and remains slightly moist in the pan (this is probably where your speculation about linseed oil came from, it's just a whole bunch of binder, or honey in the case of some western paints), and as you noticed it lifts super easily. They're primarily designed to work with rice-based papers instead of our usual cotton, though they do work beautifully on cotton/cellulose too And if you want something like crackling and then you could try some granulating colours; you already have some! It's not the most heavily granulating version of the colour (the strength of the gansai binder stops it from getting too crazy) but the 064/ultramarine in your palette does have some of that texture - try it on some rougher paper next to some other colours in the set and you can see how it's more varied particle sizes settle differently into the texture of the surface And your dude looks great, I'd love to see more of this series
I like how your Space Wolf turned out, it has a romantic, dreamy atmosphere. I knew that it would work, because one of the more advanced participants of a workshop I went to, challenged himself by using gouache and it turned out great too.
@@pill0bug347 watercolor paints can be fairly expensive especially the higher quality you go. I’ve seen watercolor paints in the $500s and they probably go higher
I am a professional watercolour artist and just started with the miniature hobby. Acrylics have been driving me crazy because they behave so differently. Especially blending and "fixing mistakes". This video has given me hope that I can just stay in my medium and paint with watercolors. The unpaintable spot btw happens usually when a fingerprint leaves oil/fat that prevents the water to stick.
One of the most impressive effects the water colors made was the basing with the snow. It almost looks like real slag snow that someone has been running around on for hours. Perfect for.the Space Wolf ascetic.
Yes, the cracking looked pretty 😎 cool. Keep the hairdryer in your arsenal for waterpaints. And consider using acrylics and watercolors on the same model!?
wanna see this get to the point where Jay is collecting and grinding his own pigments by hand in a field and fabricating brushes out of boar hair, rendering sinew to make his own adhesive to glue his figs together
14:20 I usually stick with unit-based base rims- Yellow for one unit, red for another, etc. Just works for my brain since I have trouble differentiating units otherwise
He did get kinda lucky choosing japanese watercolors they are waaay more vibrant and pigmented then normal watercolors. But the effect was splendid! 3d watercolors are fun i think I'm gonna try to paint my intercessors with watercolors now if i mess up i will blame this video.
You can use watercolors on top of oil paints if you want to experiment some more! Great video! I don't paint miniatures but I watercolor it was fun seeing two different mediums crossover!
The browns in the cape, boots and belt particularly look amazing to me. Reminds me a lot of older fantasy miniatures I remember seeing growing up. While I don't think I'd use water paints on the entirety of a mini, I think it definitely has its uses.
Before even playing the video I thought that watercolor would behave pretty much like a wash, and you confirmed it like two minutes in Update: damn, it turned out so good! Looks like watercolor is a legit tool in mini painting
So, I haven't watched your video yet. I have a pretty fair amount of practice trying to get guache and water color onto minis. I am hype to see your methods and will be back after I finish. So, I learned how to paint watercolors because it is extremely hard. I hated it, I still do, but I love the challenge. But, I have better water control than I could have ever dreamed of and it has forced me to grow a lot. Watercolor is usually painted Light to Dark. Dark pigments with overwhelmingly take over light spots. Note, you get cracks from how evaporation process goes. It can be the air drier, it can be something mixed in the water, it can also be the pigments as they dried. Maybe there wasn't enough pigment on those spots. Maybe a little salt from your skin got into that little bit, etc. I tend to use a air drier on a cold setting for *thin* layers of paint. The more water, the more likely it is to crack upon fast drying out. So, on the last note. There are finishes and holding sprays that make the surface more porous and able to receive the water colors than others. Also! You lucked out, some primers WILL NOT accept watercolors at all. Also, it is a common practice to use a different medium at the very end of the process to make some highlights really stand out. So, mixed mediums with water colors is totally normal. Lastly, there is a water color brand named "Koi" that has like a little to go set with really wonderful colors. The box is about as big as a hand, it has a little thumb ring at the bottom and the lid can hold a little sheet of paper, or a model. Its about 50$ last time I checked, but I have had it for years and I love it. Just in case you keep water coloring :3 Overall, this was a treat! Thanks so much, I had a great time watching. I hope you continue to water color minis. Maybe even give us a mixed medium vid sometime :3
It’s funny I just watched an Adam savage video about weathering props with watercolours and it a real moment of “wow I can’t believe I never thought of this before”. Just another reminder that miniature painting is its own artistic medium and there is a lot we can learn from traditional art techniques instead of being insulated in our little nerd/gamer product ecosystem. Plus watercolours aren’t noxious like oil and enamels.
Well that was entertaining! Cool experiment, it's how I discovered that I could use my Golden Acrylics on minis. Just some FYI - the paint is Kuretake Gansai Tambi. It is based on traditional sumi-e inks. While it has high pigmentation, the binder they use is beeswax, sugar, animal glue among other natural binders. No linseed oil in it, it wouldn't be watercolour paint then. It had nothing to soak into - they are best used on Japanese paper.
Great video! I painted a mini with watercolors last year and it was awesome! I was recommended to try them because it was a very small and detailed 3d print and I wanted very bright highlights without risking to obscure any fine details by coating too many times with acrylics. If you want to try them again for another challenge I would suggest you to paint some kind of more "organic" mini, maybe something without lots of flat surfaces. My mini was a mermaid and I had so much fun!
That looks brilliant would love to see a follow up with you refining this on the whole squad maybe try Matt varnish first so it gives a rougher starting surface or maybe aerosols will be a better start I’d love to see you do tests on this
As a former mini painter and being more a watercolour painter these days it is a super fun and interesting video. This much watercolour for 30 bucks is dirt cheap. the watercolour I use would have more colour fidelity, coverage and pigment density, but they won't be acrylic, they will remain slow to dry, sensitive to grease. On paper once dry they don't reactivate as they merge with the fibres of the paper. Really want to give it a try :D
You might try brush on primer next time. The extra texture that the brush on primer will have compared to spray on primer will help the water colors stay in place a little easier.
They look absolutely beatiful. As if a watercolour painting came to life. I cant stress how much I love this aesthetic. I do wonder if there is a primer out there, that works a bit like paper and makes this procedure easier.
I think what you said about it being a bit like an oil wash is interesting, I can imagine it would work well for weathering kinda purposes as the reactivation and clean-off would perhaps be a bit more simple than oils, the star wars vehicle you painted that took some scrubbing to get the oil off may be the type of circumstance where watercolour could be a useful addition to an acrylic underpainting. This was certainly a very interesting and creative experiment.
Interesting! I recently moved home from abroad and dug out my old minis, my GW paints hadn’t survived years in storage but I do have some watercolours so may have to give this a go!
Ooh this looks cool, I’m going to have to test if my Windsor and newton cotman set will work! I could perhaps update this comment with my result perhaps 😅. Happy to share if metallic watercolour also work foras I have a few of those. 😊
Id recommend experimenting with a watercolour ground, daniel smith & Qor have very good examples of these. Use the ground as a primer, they are specifically designed to create a base that accepts watercolour & it works very well with the gansai paint youre using. Watercolour ground is quite thick though, so it would require some experimentation to not lose base details in the model
I actually used kids watercolor paints to paint my Bolt Action pin markers as little fiery explosions. It wasn’t planned out, it was just the only red, orange and yellow paints I had at the time. They blended amazingly well over a white primer and I’m actually really happy with the result.
Ok i might have to try this. Ive taken my paints to the store a hamdful of times and never wanted to get the paint out. Maybe the watercolor could be my go to for my D&D minis at the very least
You should try to do your freehanding with watercolor on top off the usual acrylic its so easy and can remove your mistakes like a eraser without damaging the acrylic
Will it warhammer! It will! This was awesome to watch, the results speak to how truly talented you are as an artist! Can’t wait to see what you come up with next
I mean that's how people paint Gundams. I've actually had lots of people recommend the MTN water based markers. Molotow all4one do basically the same thing. Not something I'd want to switch to as my main technique, but it is an established method of miniature painting. Works great for weathering effects, certain styles of painting. I recommend people give it a go.
@@jothewerewolf us gunpla modellers try everything to get the best effects we can also a number of armour/aircraft modellers use paintsils for weathered effect 😉 more control for subtle looking weathering faster drying time compared with oils
@@legendeOfDragonI’ve been seeing Shorts from a stop motion animator making a film called Gruff, and they also use watercolour pencils (as part of their colouring process).
The water color really has a nice effect! I would love to see one of these marines done mostly with water color with touch ups in acrylics. Like I think black-lining, edge-highlighting, and eye painting in acrylic would do a ton of work
Its so cool to see someone else do this. I tried watercoloring the big chaos dragon model, using the watercolors to make a green-blue-purple gradient, and while it came out beautifully the paints did not like to be touched at all. I need to seal it but im scared the moisture from the sesler will reactivate the paint and mess it up.
Awesome job, dude! Also the quote is Dr Malcolm from The Lost World: Jurassic Park when the crew first see the Stegosaurs. The best sequel there has ever been... except Terminator 👍
This would be very interesting on a figure of an ethereal being or spirit - where the tint of colour and the white primer underneath could combine to create the appearance of something both present and not; it would look like something only partially manifested.
I actually really like the cracking on the shoulder pads. I'm gonna try that on some monsters to give a scaly look. Also the cloak looks really organic
These are Gansai Tambi paints from the brand Kuratake! They are a honey based paint, which is why it's alittle sticky and won't dry down the best. They technically arnt really watercolour, as they're a mix between watercolour and gouache (opaque watercolour basically) that are usually used on a type of japanese paper that is very thin. Honestly if you were going to paint a mini in watercolour, this is the best brand and type of paint to use haha. They are cheap, beautiful and a fun way to start watercolour! They also sell those golds as pigments/inks. I use them alot on minis and if you can get the consistency correct it looks amazing.
I've seen model makers use acrylic, oil, and enamel together, but I wonder where in the layering process watercolor can be used to its full potential. Great experiment in this one!
TBH... Overall an amazing paint job for just water colours. That is amazing! TBH the SNOW Looks SO much better with water colours than it is with any other colour.. its really really good!
On Marklin of Sweden's channel, he used watercolors to create a rust effect on model trains that looked pretty good (which had a crusty, flaky texture). I've been curious to try it... maybe the time is now... :)
Very interesting video.. I never tried that myself. I'd love you to test out the AK interactive weathering pencils and compare them to standard watercolour pencils. It would be a good follow up to this video
personally I think the cracking added a really nice effect to the blue parts of the armour, made it feel colder and almost mystical which I quite like since yknow space wolves are like vikings and stuff
Wow! Hats off. My first painted mini was a HeroQuest goblin using watercolor paints straight with no primer. I didn’t have small brushes so I used a toothpick. The result was horrible. Yours is impresive. Now I feel curious about trying again…
Interesting experiment, your experience really shone in making it look great! If you wanted to try again I would love to see something more organic than a Space Marine. I think the properties of watercolors would blend well with the style of something like your Plague Marines, for example.
About 20 years ago I painted two identical minis, one with cheap watercolor and one with Vallejo model color. There's a difference, but at arm's length it's barely noticeable
@@mikuenjoyerXD water color you can put on really thin with not a ton of water. With gouache you usually need more water to get it flowing. Because of this, it could make it so you accidentally re-activate the surrounding paints more easily. Maybe.
I mean as long as you varnish in between non-mixing layers I would think it would help alot. Granted still more work than solely acrylics. But you can't pull dried paint off so well with acrylic. And can’t mix as well. But very impressive. I wish I had that brush control and that eye for detail.
Hey Jay I like this video especially when I must space wolves player. I was pondering on the same idea as well but this put it to the top. Thanks 4 this video, I like the color effects on this model! Lookin fresh!👍
I just want to be really honest here. I don't usually love you as a content creator. I don't dislike you or hate anything about you but your vibe just doesn't match what I'm looking for. I do like to check the videos to see if I'm interested and usually leave a minute or so in but I found this video really really interesting and entertaining. I really enjoyed this video a lot so thank you for sharing it.
There is watercolour ground available. It is made for European watercolours (I believe the ones you used were Japanese, which are different). I have used watercolour ground for shields with watercolours/diluted acrylics, it was interesting. Came out okay.
I once experimented with priming a model with thinned down gesso (which worked shockingly well btw) I wonder if that would help create the sort of surface necessary to help the watercolor not schmooze too much.
Use it as an oil replacement for weathering/washes rather than trying to paint with it. Understanding watercolor and/or oil will help. Think this : with oil washes you apply it then essentially rub it off the raised areas with white spirits+tools (qtips/makeup sponges etc). The same can be done using watercolor but using just water. A younger person friendly/indoor friendly (no fumes) oil alternative maybe?
Your mini looks great! I would guess, if you have any issues, it would be lightfastness. A lot of watercolors have pigments that aren’t particularly lightfast. I’m sure you can make a test piece and stick it on a windowsill, or clip it to the shade of a task lamp and you will know where the issues are. I like your experiment!
@eonsofbattle if you enjoyed using watercolors on your minis you should definitely try Gouache! Acrylic Gouache behaves like a combination of watercolors and acrylic paint.
This looks like a fun experiment! I didn't expect it to end up well, but it did. The base actually looks better than the results you initially intended -- "dirty" snow is realistic! That said, I don't think using watercolors is practical, it seems you have to take way more care than with acrylic paints. You can probably knock off 2-3 decent looking minis with acrylics in the time it took you to paint this one.
Love watching your vids pal, looking forward too a Leviathan box video, got mine ordered but want too see how you paint yours! Keep up the good work. 👍
So if you ever try this again there is special "primer" that helps watercolor adhere to surfaces. It's not cheap but should work. Also it's a lot pricier but fresh tube watercolor would probably work better too.
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*Jay using dried paint scraped from a wall*
"Will it warhammer?"
*Looks a ton better than my painted minis*
I swear some of the older paint from like the 1920 was even better. There are some old farmers barns that still have the paint. Sure some has chipped here and there. I know 2 people that painted there summer decks and only 4 years later its almost gone. Unreal lol
@@savagex466-qt1io to be fair your not exactly walking on the side of a barn
That watercolor brand is "Kuretake" they are traditional Japanese watercolor colors. They have really good cuality, because the pigment doesn't separete, you could not been able to do that with a watercolor pallet cheaper 😂❤
There are awesome pearl colors that behave so interesting in a black canvas.
As a watercolor painter I have enjoyed your video!
Thanks!
Yes, actually they behave much more like gouache than western watercolor paints.
Still just $30. Next "Will it Warhammer?" I challenge you all to paint a mini with dollar store nail polish.
we don't talk about it a lot but this video shows how truly cracked Jay is at painting
I actually really love the snow effect. It looks super realistically like melting, slushy snow; perfect for a gritty, grimdark effect!
Fun fact: you can turn miniatures into white thick crunchy absorbent paper - a number of brands like Daniel Smith do watercolour grounds that you can paint onto anything. They're a bit chunky and textured for most mini stuff but if you have something with big simple surfaces (a shield, banners, an entire titan if you're brave) it can be a really fun approach
And your palette is from Kuretake's Gansai Tambi range; they are pretty nice, a really solid beginners set that I still reach for despite having much fancier options, though I probably shouldn't tell you just how expensive watercolours can get. Gansai is a little different to western watercolours; it's a bit stickier than our usual gum arabic binders, it rewets very easily and remains slightly moist in the pan (this is probably where your speculation about linseed oil came from, it's just a whole bunch of binder, or honey in the case of some western paints), and as you noticed it lifts super easily. They're primarily designed to work with rice-based papers instead of our usual cotton, though they do work beautifully on cotton/cellulose too
And if you want something like crackling and then you could try some granulating colours; you already have some! It's not the most heavily granulating version of the colour (the strength of the gansai binder stops it from getting too crazy) but the 064/ultramarine in your palette does have some of that texture - try it on some rougher paper next to some other colours in the set and you can see how it's more varied particle sizes settle differently into the texture of the surface
And your dude looks great, I'd love to see more of this series
Interesting!
I like how your Space Wolf turned out, it has a romantic, dreamy atmosphere.
I knew that it would work, because one of the more advanced participants of a workshop I went to, challenged himself by using gouache and it turned out great too.
"it was about 30 bucks so these should be really good" Oh Jay, sweet summer child
😂 I literally laughed about the same while my wallet cried
Man I came here solely to make sure someone said this. XD
Can someone explain as I’m dumb
@@pill0bug347 usually good art supplies cost you a leg, an arm, your firstborn child, and your dignity to purchase
@@pill0bug347 watercolor paints can be fairly expensive especially the higher quality you go. I’ve seen watercolor paints in the $500s and they probably go higher
There's something very John Blanche about the watercolour look. And the cracking could look amazing on a Death Guard, or any Nurgle, army!
I came here to say the same thing! You could get some real good Blanche vibes with a yellow and red watercolor palette
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I am a professional watercolour artist and just started with the miniature hobby. Acrylics have been driving me crazy because they behave so differently. Especially blending and "fixing mistakes". This video has given me hope that I can just stay in my medium and paint with watercolors.
The unpaintable spot btw happens usually when a fingerprint leaves oil/fat that prevents the water to stick.
One of the most impressive effects the water colors made was the basing with the snow. It almost looks like real slag snow that someone has been running around on for hours. Perfect for.the Space Wolf ascetic.
I absolutely love how it turned out, especially the yellow shoulder pads. It looks so good for a realistic, heavily weathered look, even the cracking.
Yes, the cracking looked pretty 😎 cool. Keep the hairdryer in your arsenal for waterpaints. And consider using acrylics and watercolors on the same model!?
It seems like a nice challenge for a skilled painter.
Another way to say it is dogshit
wanna see this get to the point where Jay is collecting and grinding his own pigments by hand in a field and fabricating brushes out of boar hair, rendering sinew to make his own adhesive to glue his figs together
Don't forget the part where he sculpts the tusks into minis.
Tired: Buying official minis from WOTC
Wired: 3D printing minis to save money and customize them
Inspired: Wild boar ivory
14:20 I usually stick with unit-based base rims- Yellow for one unit, red for another, etc. Just works for my brain since I have trouble differentiating units otherwise
He did get kinda lucky choosing japanese watercolors they are waaay more vibrant and pigmented then normal watercolors. But the effect was splendid! 3d watercolors are fun i think I'm gonna try to paint my intercessors with watercolors now if i mess up i will blame this video.
I think you can paint with everthing. Maybe wallcolour?
You can use watercolors on top of oil paints if you want to experiment some more! Great video! I don't paint miniatures but I watercolor it was fun seeing two different mediums crossover!
Underrated comment.
What a fun experiment! I’ll definitely have to pick up some watercolor paint now- this effect is super painterly, which is something I love on minis.
The browns in the cape, boots and belt particularly look amazing to me. Reminds me a lot of older fantasy miniatures I remember seeing growing up. While I don't think I'd use water paints on the entirety of a mini, I think it definitely has its uses.
Before even playing the video I thought that watercolor would behave pretty much like a wash, and you confirmed it like two minutes in
Update: damn, it turned out so good! Looks like watercolor is a legit tool in mini painting
So, I haven't watched your video yet. I have a pretty fair amount of practice trying to get guache and water color onto minis. I am hype to see your methods and will be back after I finish.
So, I learned how to paint watercolors because it is extremely hard. I hated it, I still do, but I love the challenge. But, I have better water control than I could have ever dreamed of and it has forced me to grow a lot.
Watercolor is usually painted Light to Dark. Dark pigments with overwhelmingly take over light spots.
Note, you get cracks from how evaporation process goes. It can be the air drier, it can be something mixed in the water, it can also be the pigments as they dried. Maybe there wasn't enough pigment on those spots. Maybe a little salt from your skin got into that little bit, etc.
I tend to use a air drier on a cold setting for *thin* layers of paint. The more water, the more likely it is to crack upon fast drying out.
So, on the last note. There are finishes and holding sprays that make the surface more porous and able to receive the water colors than others. Also! You lucked out, some primers WILL NOT accept watercolors at all.
Also, it is a common practice to use a different medium at the very end of the process to make some highlights really stand out. So, mixed mediums with water colors is totally normal.
Lastly, there is a water color brand named "Koi" that has like a little to go set with really wonderful colors. The box is about as big as a hand, it has a little thumb ring at the bottom and the lid can hold a little sheet of paper, or a model. Its about 50$ last time I checked, but I have had it for years and I love it. Just in case you keep water coloring :3
Overall, this was a treat! Thanks so much, I had a great time watching. I hope you continue to water color minis. Maybe even give us a mixed medium vid sometime :3
Thanks so much for sharing your experience and insight! 😊
It’s funny I just watched an Adam savage video about weathering props with watercolours and it a real moment of “wow I can’t believe I never thought of this before”. Just another reminder that miniature painting is its own artistic medium and there is a lot we can learn from traditional art techniques instead of being insulated in our little nerd/gamer product ecosystem. Plus watercolours aren’t noxious like oil and enamels.
Surprised to see how vibrant and colorful the model turned out ! Who knew you could water color warhammer
Well that was entertaining! Cool experiment, it's how I discovered that I could use my Golden Acrylics on minis. Just some FYI - the paint is Kuretake Gansai Tambi. It is based on traditional sumi-e inks. While it has high pigmentation, the binder they use is beeswax, sugar, animal glue among other natural binders. No linseed oil in it, it wouldn't be watercolour paint then. It had nothing to soak into - they are best used on Japanese paper.
I love the way the miniature looks like a pen and watercolour picture, it reminds me of classic Warhammer art
Great video!
I painted a mini with watercolors last year and it was awesome! I was recommended to try them because it was a very small and detailed 3d print and I wanted very bright highlights without risking to obscure any fine details by coating too many times with acrylics. If you want to try them again for another challenge I would suggest you to paint some kind of more "organic" mini, maybe something without lots of flat surfaces. My mini was a mermaid and I had so much fun!
That looks brilliant would love to see a follow up with you refining this on the whole squad maybe try Matt varnish first so it gives a rougher starting surface or maybe aerosols will be a better start I’d love to see you do tests on this
As a former mini painter and being more a watercolour painter these days it is a super fun and interesting video.
This much watercolour for 30 bucks is dirt cheap. the watercolour I use would have more colour fidelity, coverage and pigment density, but they won't be acrylic, they will remain slow to dry, sensitive to grease. On paper once dry they don't reactivate as they merge with the fibres of the paper. Really want to give it a try :D
The way the yellow and brown first blended together looks like a good start on some Blanchitsu/Zorn palette effects
i loved the apple barrel vid and this is really cool too!
You might try brush on primer next time. The extra texture that the brush on primer will have compared to spray on primer will help the water colors stay in place a little easier.
They look absolutely beatiful. As if a watercolour painting came to life. I cant stress how much I love this aesthetic.
I do wonder if there is a primer out there, that works a bit like paper and makes this procedure easier.
I think what you said about it being a bit like an oil wash is interesting, I can imagine it would work well for weathering kinda purposes as the reactivation and clean-off would perhaps be a bit more simple than oils, the star wars vehicle you painted that took some scrubbing to get the oil off may be the type of circumstance where watercolour could be a useful addition to an acrylic underpainting. This was certainly a very interesting and creative experiment.
Interesting! I recently moved home from abroad and dug out my old minis, my GW paints hadn’t survived years in storage but I do have some watercolours so may have to give this a go!
I own this water color set and might use this as a base coat to get an idea how i want to paint with acrylics on top
I'd love to see you paint up a mini with Stuart Semple's super vivid paints.
Ooh this looks cool, I’m going to have to test if my Windsor and newton cotman set will work! I could perhaps update this comment with my result perhaps 😅. Happy to share if metallic watercolour also work foras I have a few of those. 😊
Do an ink only paintjob
The boots looked great this way. The way it all turned out looks like he's been in the snow for a while.
Id recommend experimenting with a watercolour ground, daniel smith & Qor have very good examples of these. Use the ground as a primer, they are specifically designed to create a base that accepts watercolour & it works very well with the gansai paint youre using. Watercolour ground is quite thick though, so it would require some experimentation to not lose base details in the model
I actually used kids watercolor paints to paint my Bolt Action pin markers as little fiery explosions. It wasn’t planned out, it was just the only red, orange and yellow paints I had at the time. They blended amazingly well over a white primer and I’m actually really happy with the result.
Ok i might have to try this. Ive taken my paints to the store a hamdful of times and never wanted to get the paint out. Maybe the watercolor could be my go to for my D&D minis at the very least
Love it! Watercolors are a blast, check out watercolor gouache as well, basically just opaque watercolors
You should try to do your freehanding with watercolor on top off the usual acrylic its so easy and can remove your mistakes like a eraser without damaging the acrylic
Will it warhammer! It will! This was awesome to watch, the results speak to how truly talented you are as an artist! Can’t wait to see what you come up with next
Can you do the same with colouring pencils or felt tips, I think that would be funny
I know that doll costumizer often use watercolourpencils to draw face ups! So it def should work!
I mean that's how people paint Gundams.
I've actually had lots of people recommend the MTN water based markers. Molotow all4one do basically the same thing. Not something I'd want to switch to as my main technique, but it is an established method of miniature painting. Works great for weathering effects, certain styles of painting. I recommend people give it a go.
@@jothewerewolf us gunpla modellers try everything to get the best effects we can also a number of armour/aircraft modellers use paintsils for weathered effect 😉 more control for subtle looking weathering faster drying time compared with oils
@@legendeOfDragonI’ve been seeing Shorts from a stop motion animator making a film called Gruff, and they also use watercolour pencils (as part of their colouring process).
The water color really has a nice effect! I would love to see one of these marines done mostly with water color with touch ups in acrylics. Like I think black-lining, edge-highlighting, and eye painting in acrylic would do a ton of work
You are a magician .Never stop to amaze me. I will keep my acrylic paints but i will really enjoy your water colour space wolves team.
Its so cool to see someone else do this. I tried watercoloring the big chaos dragon model, using the watercolors to make a green-blue-purple gradient, and while it came out beautifully the paints did not like to be touched at all. I need to seal it but im scared the moisture from the sesler will reactivate the paint and mess it up.
Awesome job, dude! Also the quote is Dr Malcolm from The Lost World: Jurassic Park when the crew first see the Stegosaurs. The best sequel there has ever been... except Terminator 👍
This would be very interesting on a figure of an ethereal being or spirit - where the tint of colour and the white primer underneath could combine to create the appearance of something both present and not; it would look like something only partially manifested.
I actually really like the cracking on the shoulder pads. I'm gonna try that on some monsters to give a scaly look. Also the cloak looks really organic
I'm glad im not the only one that tried watercolor paint on a miniature! Painted a space marine too!
These are Gansai Tambi paints from the brand Kuratake! They are a honey based paint, which is why it's alittle sticky and won't dry down the best.
They technically arnt really watercolour, as they're a mix between watercolour and gouache (opaque watercolour basically) that are usually used on a type of japanese paper that is very thin. Honestly if you were going to paint a mini in watercolour, this is the best brand and type of paint to use haha.
They are cheap, beautiful and a fun way to start watercolour! They also sell those golds as pigments/inks. I use them alot on minis and if you can get the consistency correct it looks amazing.
the cracking looks sick anyways leave it!
I painted my nighthaunt like this but with mostly shade.
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The second Jurassic park? I think. Let me know!! Nice work with the water color!!! Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!
i hope so i am going to google it.
I've seen model makers use acrylic, oil, and enamel together, but I wonder where in the layering process watercolor can be used to its full potential. Great experiment in this one!
This is awesome! It's very much John Blanche style--even though it's more vibrant than a lot of his stuff. Cool!
I always enjoy how you find challenges for yourself. Broadens your wisdom with the brush.
TBH... Overall an amazing paint job for just water colours. That is amazing! TBH the SNOW Looks SO much better with water colours than it is with any other colour.. its really really good!
On Marklin of Sweden's channel, he used watercolors to create a rust effect on model trains that looked pretty good (which had a crusty, flaky texture). I've been curious to try it... maybe the time is now... :)
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Very interesting video.. I never tried that myself. I'd love you to test out the AK interactive weathering pencils and compare them to standard watercolour pencils. It would be a good follow up to this video
personally I think the cracking added a really nice effect to the blue parts of the armour, made it feel colder and almost mystical which I quite like since yknow space wolves are like vikings and stuff
Wow! Hats off. My first painted mini was a HeroQuest goblin using watercolor paints straight with no primer. I didn’t have small brushes so I used a toothpick. The result was horrible. Yours is impresive. Now I feel curious about trying again…
Interesting experiment, your experience really shone in making it look great! If you wanted to try again I would love to see something more organic than a Space Marine. I think the properties of watercolors would blend well with the style of something like your Plague Marines, for example.
Jurrassic park: lost World, love it man! amazing results
Cool idea I never thought about waterpaints for warhammer
About 20 years ago I painted two identical minis, one with cheap watercolor and one with Vallejo model color.
There's a difference, but at arm's length it's barely noticeable
now that is - painting bravely! i love it
the dirty snow effect from absorbing the paint actually looks great for half melted slurry
it looks like a 3d version of a watercolor painting. It looks really good. Very interesting. 👍
I suggest you try using gouache as well its similar to watercolors but thicker
I wouldn't; only on the grounds that they can make it harder to control re-activation of the surrounding paints.
@@BlackKara how is that any different from watercolor? They both reactivate with water
@@mikuenjoyerXD water color you can put on really thin with not a ton of water. With gouache you usually need more water to get it flowing. Because of this, it could make it so you accidentally re-activate the surrounding paints more easily. Maybe.
Super cool, you can get surfacer that acts like watercolour paper but i don't know how thin you can get it so the minis might lose detail using it
Professional grade white gesso might work better as your prime coat. It has a lot of "tooth" and holds paint in place very well.
I mean as long as you varnish in between non-mixing layers I would think it would help alot. Granted still more work than solely acrylics. But you can't pull dried paint off so well with acrylic. And can’t mix as well.
But very impressive. I wish I had that brush control and that eye for detail.
I was worried about the Varnish step, but you surprised me! Good job!
It's always a good day when EOB uploads.
Hey Jay I like this video especially when I must space wolves player. I was pondering on the same idea as well but this put it to the top. Thanks 4 this video, I like the color effects on this model! Lookin fresh!👍
I just want to be really honest here. I don't usually love you as a content creator. I don't dislike you or hate anything about you but your vibe just doesn't match what I'm looking for. I do like to check the videos to see if I'm interested and usually leave a minute or so in but I found this video really really interesting and entertaining. I really enjoyed this video a lot so thank you for sharing it.
I really like that it has kinda the same finish as a Jon Blanch painting. Great work man! Really inspiring.
There is watercolour ground available. It is made for European watercolours (I believe the ones you used were Japanese, which are different). I have used watercolour ground for shields with watercolours/diluted acrylics, it was interesting. Came out okay.
Didn't see anyone else naming the quote. Jurassic Park: The Lost World, Dr. Ian Malcolm. Great painting too!
I once experimented with priming a model with thinned down gesso (which worked shockingly well btw) I wonder if that would help create the sort of surface necessary to help the watercolor not schmooze too much.
What an incredible paintjob. I really liked how you explained your theories and experimented around!
I've always been curious about water colours and minis.
Very happy you did this Jay, great video
Use it as an oil replacement for weathering/washes rather than trying to paint with it. Understanding watercolor and/or oil will help. Think this : with oil washes you apply it then essentially rub it off the raised areas with white spirits+tools (qtips/makeup sponges etc). The same can be done using watercolor but using just water. A younger person friendly/indoor friendly (no fumes) oil alternative maybe?
That looks Fantastic! Also, Loved the Ian Malcom Quote from Jurassic Park: The Lost World
Your mini looks great! I would guess, if you have any issues, it would be lightfastness. A lot of watercolors have pigments that aren’t particularly lightfast. I’m sure you can make a test piece and stick it on a windowsill, or clip it to the shade of a task lamp and you will know where the issues are. I like your experiment!
@eonsofbattle if you enjoyed using watercolors on your minis you should definitely try Gouache! Acrylic Gouache behaves like a combination of watercolors and acrylic paint.
I always thought this was a bad idea, now I’m convinced that it’s the best idea
This looks like a fun experiment! I didn't expect it to end up well, but it did. The base actually looks better than the results you initially intended -- "dirty" snow is realistic! That said, I don't think using watercolors is practical, it seems you have to take way more care than with acrylic paints. You can probably knock off 2-3 decent looking minis with acrylics in the time it took you to paint this one.
Love watching your vids pal, looking forward too a Leviathan box video, got mine ordered but want too see how you paint yours! Keep up the good work. 👍
That looks so good, definitely have another go. Maybe this could be your thing!
I almost wonder if watercolor would be better with something like craftworld or Tau, which I think of as a bit less gungy than a space marine.
I kinda liked the cracking on the shoulder pads it had a brief look of stained glass for a moment.
So if you ever try this again there is special "primer" that helps watercolor adhere to surfaces. It's not cheap but should work. Also it's a lot pricier but fresh tube watercolor would probably work better too.