Thank you. I mean, it didn’t take a year to make but I guess everything I learned prior must have led up to it. 😜🤣 Appreciate you noticing mate. Much appreciated
I've learned more in this 17 minute video than I have in hundreds of hours watching other miniature painters. Color theory is always talked about in elements but never fully described. Then you come along and do it with a medium pertaining directly to miniature painters,... along with mixture ratios! Saying well done does not do this justice.
🤣🤣 I’m a qualified Mechanical Engineer myself. I like measurable, quantifiable, replicable instructions, so I know what you mean. Imagine a cake recipe that said “feel the amount of flour and eggs you need!”. I wouldn’t eat that and neither would you. 🤣👍🏼
I am with both of you, I was a chemistry graduate, and when kimera came out I took all the colours I need and created them using a dropper and micro scales, with matte medium@@thestateofplay2023
As a artist with a engineer brain. If you are good with the dropper you can do a system based on droplets. 3m 4c 1y 0w 1b etc etc. Just remember yellow being a more transparent ink needs to be considered nearly double to be equal to the cyan and magenta
I can't say enough how long I've been looking for this info. The work you did here is not only impressive, but easy to help someone replicate it. Thank you for dumbing it down to make it approachable. Great job, sir!
This video was brilliant. Since coming back to painting, 25 years and one wife later, I am thrilled to find the concise information I need. Thank you very much. Edit: number of wives, as opposed to the relative position of said wife.
@@Grimm.Wraven ah yes, you must have started before before RUclips videos. Wasn’t it a pain back then finding all the info. Mostly White Dwarf and Citadel guides! I remember fondly!
Omg ..totally best video I've watched since coming back to the hobby..citadel inks were superb...looks like I'm gonna be trying this ..don't suppose you got the charts on pdf have ya
I need to know: how many text/image assets did you have to make for this video? Very well done. It was super satisfying to watch someone go through this whole process!
Hey Scott! Pleasure to see you here. Huge fan! 😳 Love the question. The kind you only get from other creators. 🤣 Ok, so there’s 133 image assets and 17 text. But once the chart was made, most of them were drag and drop to create the new ones!
@@thestateofplay2023 Of course, but contrast is very important in any form of art and until min painters grasp the concept of contrast and then secondly learn how to achieve it, their minis will be dull.
My dude. I have watched thousands of miniature / miniature painting videos over the last decade. Probably well over 10k. This is the best "Mix your own paint" video out there. By far. Well done.
Brilliant. As a bonus, now I finally understand why my printer refuses to print black when its out of magenta. The best part is the explanation of how colours actually work, well worth it for anyone painting no matter what medium they are using. Developing a "colour eye" is incredibly useful and quite liberating when one does not happen to have a pot or bottle of (insert inane name not related to colour here) and you wish to do your own version of it. Cheers!
Aha! Yes, now you can paint Salamanders or Dark Angels without even owning a green paint! I just picked up the new speedpaints and was surprised to find they’d labelled the bottles with two names: an inane one and a real world colour name. Nice touch!
@@thestateofplay2023 It was Brent's (from Goobertown Hobby) suggestion to add colour names that people with a visual disability (say colourblindness) could actually understand when to use.
Genius, & an added bonus to this is you won't have to worry about GW or whoever's paints you use changing when you want to paint more models the same colour as the ones you've already painted. Well done sir :)
"I've learned more in this 17 minute video than I have in hundreds of hours watching other miniature painters. " This is exactly what i feel. Much much much much appreciated.
As a retired printer, I've been using this method for decades. With the base mixing colors from the PMS guide, I had the potential to create thousands of colors. Using CMYK (4-color process) with Pantone Purple, you can simulate the Hexachrome printing process
As yes, but we’re both old(er) and still know how things used to work before the internet. 👍🏼😜 Many of the tried and tested ways have just been lost over time. Which is a shame, I think.
@thestateofplay2023 Don't be too disappointed by that. Not only have you changed my views on painting minis, but you have changed my view on stuff NOT connected to minis. The whole colour space transformation from RGB to CMYK when considering what was shown on screen (with your handy spectrum guide) to what I want on paper is a proper eye opener for photography and RAW processing. Good information transcends time.
This video makes me feel like this is something I can wrap my head around! For me that's saying a lot! Thank you for taking the time (countless hours) to teach an old dog a new trick!
I've come back to this video so many times over the last year to mix colours, today I just mixed up the 24 "primaries" in dropper bottles for easier access to the browns and other neutrals. They came out perfect. Keep spreading the gospel of CYMK, all the colours I could ever need for under $100!
This is great! I started painting plastic models as a kid…I’m now 74…with Testers enamel paints. Mixed everything using the primaries (red, blue, yellow, black and white). This is really good info and spot on. No need to have a gazillion individual paint bottles each with some bazaar name. Mix your own, make a record of composition, make a color marker and move on! Really, really good video!!! Thanks!
Brain hurts. Will pop over to Element games tomorrow and pick up all the inks I need. Please forgive me my collection of Vallejo paints - I loved you. Great video, subbed.
It's amazing to see not only the depth of knowledge you have, but how well you're able to teach this information. Thank you for making this and sharing the charts. I'm going to be picking up some inks and making my own paints
Very opportune indeed as they’ll go through an airbrush like a spicy dish through a sensitive stomach Or butter. I probably should have said smooth as butter….🤣
Haha! I was a paste up artist in 92 and then spent 25 years in reprographics, sounds like we have some shared history. Regarding inks, I was given a set of tattoo inks, and I've never seen pigment like them. I'm still experimenting with them but I like them a lot.
I'VE WANTED TO DO THIS SO MANY TIMES FOR SO LONG Was met with frustration every time over not having THIS EXACT GUIDELINE TO WORK OFF OF!!! THANK YOU!!!
As someone with past experience in paste-up and color separations for putting ink on paper, this video makes me so very happy. Thank you for coming along and telling me how many drops of each ink to combine to create the colors I want.
Ah paste up with the good old red litho tape! I remember spending hours doing that when I can now do it in seconds - in software! You’re welcome Brian. Glad to meet another experienced in the mystic ‘old ways”.
This is quality work going where others fear to tread and amazingly we have it from a true subject matter expert Share folks, less than a thousand views in 2 days which represents about 100,000th of the folks who'd love this understanding One day soon this channel will break out and honestly, 100% this should have been the vid I'd even suggest a rerelease with a new "Warhammer" related title and a space marine thumbnail in a couple of weeks, none of us real enthusiasts would bat an eye. REALLY great work that merits fabulous acclaim and reward.
You should do a video on the different mediums that can be used to make the inks act more like paints. Things like matte medium and flow inprover. Also, you should do a video on Payne's Grey. To many model painters don't know about the magic of this color as a wash. Love your videos, but this one is my favorite so far. Keep at it.
I decided to try this out. I took the ratios from your recipe and piped it through an LLM to calculate measurements for the 24 base colors in 5ml batches. It worked very well and I'm ecstatic that I now have this much control over my paints. Thank you so much for this crash course and doing the work on figuring out the drops!
honestly finding this video is a huge godsend for me. I was really losing a desire to do an eldar army because they have so many paints and colors. I thought I might have to be buying at least 200 dollars worth of paints just to get them and the aspect warriors done, but watching this really giving the confidence to go ahead with it.
Glad I could help out. Yeah you don’t need that many paints for the Aeldari. I mean, you CAN (like me, addicted to paint) but best to buy less and mix!
I'm only just getting into this hobby - this video really massaged the amateur chemist parts of my brain, and I ended up buying myself the same 5 inks! Have you done any experimenting with different mediums in these inks? I don't want to end up with an absolute horde of paint colours and brands for different types of painting and I'd love to know if you think it would be possible to get these into a base coat consistency. It's really pleasing to me just to use exactly what I need, and mix it up on demand. Saves space, money AND is more enjoyable (I think) I bought myself some Liquitex matte medium and am still experimenting - I'm having fun anyway, but I'd definitely be interested in your thoughts! There just aren't enough videos out there on mixing your own paints for miniature painting, so please keep up the good work talking about the science and craft behind it all!
Hey! Yes I’ve mixed a ton of mediums with these inks to get different effects. Contrast medium and speedpaint medium to make contrast paint. Golden Airbrush medium for airbrush. Pro acryl glaze and wash medium to make well, glazes and washes, Newsh to make erasable oil type paints. Gesso and others to thicken the inks. There’s load you can play with. Best thing to do is think of what you’d like to do and grab a medium that might do it and then mix. Then test. Great fun!!
@@thestateofplay2023 very interesting, thanks! I didn't think of using gesso so I've ordered some Liquitex transparent gesso medium and we'll see what happens! To thicken them up for now I've been using a cheap £2 tube of Crawford & Black white acrylic paint. It seems to work quite well, and because the paint is so cheap the fact that it has barely any pigment in it actually works to my favour, even if it does make the colours a little lighter. But the inks are so pigment heavy that I end up getting pretty usable colours, I just have to account for it.
Funny that it counts as bravery in this topic area to provide ... measurements. Well done sir. Tried this with Golden High Flow acrylics, with the following report from the lab. They are handily named Process Magenta, Process Cyan, and Process Yellow, so there's no mistaking which colors to use. However, ALL 3 required thinning to get a decent match to the original 24 CHART. Used Layman's Medium (75mL water 5 mL matte medium + few drops flow improver -- minute 6:00) as the thinner. 3:1 thinner-magenta; 2:1 thinner-cyan and thinner-yellow. Matched the chart well, but with all the thinning, these act like pre-mixed glazes out of an airbrush and a heavy glaze off a brush. A bit of letdown until I realized the airbrush glaze effect was better than anything I've achieved trying to thin down paint for airbrush glazing. You don't know until you try.
Man that’s cool. Someone in my Patreon tried it with dipping inks and made 24 colours of contrast type paint. And I’ve done it with liquitex acrylic gouache so I reckon we could all save a load of money. But I’m addicted to buying paint so there’s no hope for me. 🤣
You have just satisfied a very long-lasting thought I often fantasize about, which is to design and create my own paints dynamically based on the models I'm painting, from scratch or at least the basic foundations of paint and colour. Instead of relying on branded straight out the bottle.
This video is perfect, and I've learned so much from it. Being able to create my own colors from just 5 bases is amazing! I have a question: what proportion of speed paint medium should I mix with my inks to achieve a similar effect? And is there a homemade formula for speed paint medium? I'm not sure if you've answered these questions in the video because my English listening skills are not very good. Thank you very much! You've earned a subscriber, and I will continue to delve into your videos
There’s no exact mix for speedpaint medium. It will basically come down to taste. I often do 50/50 then just add more coats for lighter colours and darker is often 66/33 (2 drops medium to 1 ink).
Thank you for your quick response! One more question, if you don't mind me bothering you: I've watched the 8 tips video, but I'm not clear on the proportion to make the 'Lahmian Medium'. What are the proportions?
11:17 As an American, I have no idea what you are talking about. 14:28 "Why would you do this?" Because it's fun to mix and match colors! It's a fun experiment and can be just the palette cleanser that you need in between projects. People forget that miniature painting is art, and art is suppose to be a conduit for creativity and fun. This is definitely a creative way to make your own colors. So thank you for the video! I thoroughly enjoyed it!
This is amazing, great work! The only problem I've found with this is that some contrasts and contrast-like paints don't work with these inks, e.g. yellow and red. For some reason the premade paint works way better than the homemade.
@@thestateofplay2023 yeah, it's better than buying everything, that's for sure. For the rest of the colours though, it works exactly as the premade bottles
I keep coming back to this video because of how "I wish I thought of that" CMYK inks for minis are, and then get the feels when you mention the Sparmax. I have one thanks to you. And SO MANY of those paint marker empty refills. The last cheap hobbying thing left.
As someone who is quite adept about art paint knowledge; I highly applaud you for this video. This is an INCREDIBLE video for the community and it is FREE. It will help people understand mixing better and implore them to use other products than they're used to, get creative, make their own stuff. Like a true artist. One point of criticism though: there is absolutely a reason to choose additional inks rather than stick to those you mentioned, simply because of the transparancy, inherent pigment properties like strength, lightfastness, finish, ... Though for a regular hobby-ist this is an overcomplication, I still feel like it should be mentioned. For example, Phthalo blue would give you much richer mixtures than the blue you have there, drops would be harder to calculate though, because it is VERY strong. With the blue you have there, it would also be impossible to mix a very dark chromatic black. Because it contains opacifiers/white.
Correct, Pthalo blue would do as you say but you’d need to use way more ink of the other colours to balance out. This making it no more cost effective than just buying other inks. On the chromatic black. I agree, but 99% of the time in miniature paint people just want black. So they’d just use the K. Black. 🤣👍🏼 But for art in general I wholeheartedly agree with you. In fact I still have a huge variety of inks I use even though I can mix them. Sometimes, as you say, grabbing say, Paynes Grey, will always be easier.
This is so useful to actually have recipes for mixing Liquitex acrylic inks. It is very kind of you to do the research, format it so nicely and then just give it away. Thank you so much.
I've tried something of this, but I have a quick question for the professional: the cerulean you are using is opaque, while the yellow and magenta are transparent (as listed on the bottle). When I used it in mixing, it ended up obstructing some metallic and value underpainting. I ended up using Liquitex's deep turquoise ink instead, which is transparent and had a nice effect. I realize it's in the eye of the beholder , but is there a benefit to using the opaque cerulean that I'm missing? I'm new to color theory and don't want to overlook something.
Very good question. You could write an entire University Thesis on ink transparency! You appear to have used the inks meat from the bottle which would utilise their exact properties. Once you mix. All those transparency ratios change. Ink transparency is based on relative refractive indices (physics!). Basically how much light gets through both the pigment and the binder (medium) and how much is bounced back. What’s bounced back creates the colour we see with our eyes due to light wavelengths. That’s how we see colour. Bouncing light. Some bounce and hit our eye. Some don’t. We see the mix of the ones that bounce. The magenta is listed as transparent but that didn’t stop the darker pigment overpowering other colours. If You use it neat, it would take more coats to cover a model. The neat cyan would cover in one(ish). If the Cyan had also been transparent then all the drop ratios would have changed to get new colours. Because we’d need to fix all those bouncing light rays differently. When you mix transparent and opaque inks the relative refractive index changes. All the light bouncing around is modified. But in short Cerulean Blue is as close to Cyan as you’ll get so there’s little choice. Any other blue wouldn’t work. Hope that helps!
Get cool/warm ink as it is more than color, but overall this is a great video and I wish more people did this. Just buy some dropper bottles and make your own "skeleton horde" or whatever. The other benefit of using artist grade paint is.. you know what you are getting pigment wise compared to mini paint which is sausage most of the time. I mean GW started blowing its trumped over "single pigment" for the newer contrast, like it was some ground breaking improvement.. yet it has been standard in the art world.. forever? Also since browns (or earth tones) are popular adding umbers and siennas really expands out the options. Everyone needs wood and leather.
Can't tell you how many times I've looked for this kind of information from other sources and never found it presented in such a simple, captivating & comprehensive way as you have achieved here. Many other channels come across as gatekeepers for this type of inside knowledge but you seem the exact opposite. Sub earned, hope you get many many more!
Thank you for putting this together. I’m a gunpla (Gundam plastic model) builder and mainly use an airbrush to paint my kits. I can’t count how many times I’ve tried to mix paints for specific colours without success. Having this chart will make mixing custom colours so much easier!
Iv'e been going through all your videos and you are hands down fast becoming my favourite hobby channel. Everything is so well produced. You deserve 100k+ subs!
Awesome work! This video should have way more views. I can really see the work and effort you put into this video, so thanks very much, your work is appreciated 👍 Don't let yourself down when the RUclips Algorithm sometimes doesn't push your videos, it happens.
I just started getting into painting miniatures for my board games. Doing the math I would go broke buying specialized miniature paint. I knew there had to be a way to use acrylic paint/ink to make your own mini paint. After a week of searching, your video finally had the info I needed. THANK YOU!
This is a fantastic learning tool to understand what is happening, you explain tones, tinting and shading really well what to mix. For me having a recipe is not so important though, always just mix to get to the colour needed even if doing more of the same scheme later and have to mix all over again. Learned a lot from painting purely with the Zorn palette of black, white, yellow ochre and vermillion when trying to paint Blanchitsu style grimdark minis and really wish I had started with just these 4 colours a long time ago because it taught me so much. Can get some cracking skin tones too.
Amazing! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Information I have been struggling to understand for YEARS! “But how do I know how much of what makes what?” Is suddenly so clear. ❤❤❤
Thank you for this video. I have a question, at 5:56 you mentioned a medium you made in your top 8 tips video.. I am struggling to find what was the medium you made? 😅
Of course it was 5 mins after I posted the question that I found the answer. 😂 For anyone who had the same (ineffective) panic speed watching everything trying to find it... It's under the "8 MORE Overlooked Miniature Painting Hobby Tips!" video @ 1:30 mark. 🎉
This is brilliant, thank you! When you're just getting started like me, all these details and demonstrating every step with full illustration/demonstration gives me a real "recipe" I can follow until I know what I'm actually doing!
This is much like how all the companies make the paints they have. It's all based on ratio per color. In my work I use CYMK, Pantone and painters color books depending on what the client brings. It's always a challenge to match one color system with another color system. This system you made, helps people make colors rather easy. It's just like a paint store. You bring them a paint chip from the stores inventory, that store can look at the recipe of what color is needed to mix this paint chip color. They will always get the same results as long as they follow the ratios as listed. We are doing the exact same thing if we follow the chart you presented.
Came here from Reddit and glad I did! Awesome video. I actually bought an ink for the first time yesterday to make my own black wash so I'm already dabbling!
That’s how it starts. First it’s a black wash, then a brown - pretty soon you’ve got a lab coat on, test tubes and micro scales to weigh out the ink. 🤣🤣
@@robthespaceninja hmm, my logic on this is GW likely wanted to use ingredients they already had. So my guess is it’s based on Lahmium medium. We know that’s distilled water and matte medium. And contrast looks thicker and flows better. So my guess is it’s distilled water, more matte medium and flow improver. It’s the ratios we need to figure out. I’d only we had a chemist? 🤔
@@thestateofplay2023OK so I got the last of the bits today and had a play around. I made ink 12 first to play around with. Made a medium using 50% Matt medium and 50% water with a few drops of flow enhancer. Then I mixed equal parts of the ink and medium and it worked really really well!
Would you be able to share the list of hex colors you used to build your swatch palette? It would be super helpful to have as a reference. I know it’s not the same as the actual colors. Thank you!
The swatch pallette is the actual inks painted on paper so hex values would be of little use. Mainly because hex are for web and screen and CMYK inks are for print. They won’t be the same at all.
Wanted to start this hobby but was overwhelmed by the amount of inks paints washes etc ... This might be the way to go and get a relatively cheap start thanks!
It is but inks are a specific use case for different painting purposes. They’ll work but as a new starter I’d always recommend picking up a starter set from a good brand.
Loved your video, you just saved a lot of people a ton of money in contrasts and washes, I just made 20 bottles today, half of them by following your guide and the rest by experimenting.
Ive got the same GW Citadel Inks from the same period! I have very little Black Brown and Chestnut left and yes theyre still viable. I also have the Ral Partha Dragonscale wax rub on that was bundled with the inks and the 1st paint pots from GW and Ral Partha's leathers and skins paint (that didnt even come in a box and at the time you couldnt buy individual Citadel Colours paint or inks, or Ral Parthas for that matter) but they had flimsy cardboard trays wrapped in cellophane that were themed. Grasses and plants would get you 4 shades of green, 2 basic sets got you white,red,orange,yellow,green,blue,sky blue,purple,brown,tan,black,silver,gold and that weird pink they called Flesh. The paints are 50/50 surviving, but the inks still work, like you mention. This is the 1st time Ive heard them referenced. I had gotten out of the hobby after I lost all my RPG stuff I had gathered when I was in the US Navy (89-93) with the exception of the GW and RP paints the inks and the waxes, that I had taken with me to my parents house while they spent a month in Europe. Just with in the last couple years Ive gotten back into table top BattleTech, so painting minis is encouraged. Great tips and the break down charts are brilliant!
Another thing I love about artists inks and paints (though I don't use artists paints as they have other issues making them less suited to the mini painting I do) is that they list the actual pigments used. Titanium White is titanium white, phalo blue is phalo blue, whether its Daler Rowney, Liquitex, or someone else. And when they've used multiple pigments they're all listed.
It would be great if you made a follow up video on painting with these by making your own contrast medium - or even using these as normal paints, if possible?
As contrasts yes, I just mix the ink with speedpaint medium. As normal paint, not so much as I already own like, 1000 paints and use ink for different things. Mostly transparent effects or easy no thinning airbrushing.
Thank you Chris! Very appreciated! Most colour theory just comes with time. Over 33 years making movie posters and computer game art it just sinks in! Even though most of them are Teal and orange anyway!!
i just wanted to save money and he sneakily taught me color theory - i feel forcefully teached
Next week: how to sneakily take apart your toaster and turn it into a robot vacuum cleaner!
Hahaha. This made me proper lol.
I know this video is a year old but the amount of time dedicated to putting this together is IMPRESSIVE.
Thank you. I mean, it didn’t take a year to make but I guess everything I learned prior must have led up to it. 😜🤣 Appreciate you noticing mate. Much appreciated
I've learned more in this 17 minute video than I have in hundreds of hours watching other miniature painters. Color theory is always talked about in elements but never fully described. Then you come along and do it with a medium pertaining directly to miniature painters,... along with mixture ratios! Saying well done does not do this justice.
Well thank you! Maybe I’ll get kicked out the club for giving away all the secrets. Time will tell! 🤣
Having an engineers heart I cry every time a RUclips video says "by feel and practice" blessed is the chart 🙏
🤣🤣 I’m a qualified Mechanical Engineer myself. I like measurable, quantifiable, replicable instructions, so I know what you mean. Imagine a cake recipe that said “feel the amount of flour and eggs you need!”. I wouldn’t eat that and neither would you. 🤣👍🏼
I am with both of you, I was a chemistry graduate, and when kimera came out I took all the colours I need and created them using a dropper and micro scales, with matte medium@@thestateofplay2023
As a artist with a engineer brain. If you are good with the dropper you can do a system based on droplets. 3m 4c 1y 0w 1b etc etc. Just remember yellow being a more transparent ink needs to be considered nearly double to be equal to the cyan and magenta
I can't say enough how long I've been looking for this info. The work you did here is not only impressive, but easy to help someone replicate it. Thank you for dumbing it down to make it approachable. Great job, sir!
I know what you mean! In the end I’d waited long enough so just….did it. 🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 it's greatly appreciated. Way to find the niche things that others either haven't covered or haven't covered well enough.
This video was brilliant. Since coming back to painting, 25 years and one wife later, I am thrilled to find the concise information I need.
Thank you very much.
Edit: number of wives, as opposed to the relative position of said wife.
@@Grimm.Wraven ah yes, you must have started before before RUclips videos. Wasn’t it a pain back then finding all the info. Mostly White Dwarf and Citadel guides! I remember fondly!
Omg ..totally best video I've watched since coming back to the hobby..citadel inks were superb...looks like I'm gonna be trying this ..don't suppose you got the charts on pdf have ya
I am so grateful for my high school art teacher teaching me how to mix colors.
Yeah, it’s not a skill taught well thesedays!
I need to know: how many text/image assets did you have to make for this video? Very well done. It was super satisfying to watch someone go through this whole process!
Hey Scott! Pleasure to see you here. Huge fan! 😳 Love the question. The kind you only get from other creators. 🤣 Ok, so there’s 133 image assets and 17 text. But once the chart was made, most of them were drag and drop to create the new ones!
We need to teach color theory to every miniature painter.
I’d agree but it’s technically a “theory” still because one persons WOW is another person UGH!! 😜🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 Of course, but contrast is very important in any form of art and until min painters grasp the concept of contrast and then secondly learn how to achieve it, their minis will be dull.
My dude. I have watched thousands of miniature / miniature painting videos over the last decade. Probably well over 10k. This is the best "Mix your own paint" video out there. By far. Well done.
Well thank you kind sir! I guess I wasn’t convinced by all the “you’ve just got experiment” or “do your own research”. It had to be possible. 😜👍🏼
Brilliant. As a bonus, now I finally understand why my printer refuses to print black when its out of magenta. The best part is the explanation of how colours actually work, well worth it for anyone painting no matter what medium they are using. Developing a "colour eye" is incredibly useful and quite liberating when one does not happen to have a pot or bottle of (insert inane name not related to colour here) and you wish to do your own version of it. Cheers!
Aha! Yes, now you can paint Salamanders or Dark Angels without even owning a green paint!
I just picked up the new speedpaints and was surprised to find they’d labelled the bottles with two names: an inane one and a real world colour name. Nice touch!
@@thestateofplay2023 It was Brent's (from Goobertown Hobby) suggestion to add colour names that people with a visual disability (say colourblindness) could actually understand when to use.
@@matthieukiriyama7219 actually that's fair, along with children etc.,
Genius, & an added bonus to this is you won't have to worry about GW or whoever's paints you use changing when you want to paint more models the same colour as the ones you've already painted. Well done sir :)
Thank you Frank. I can always rely on you to make me feel better!! 👍🏼
"I've learned more in this 17 minute video than I have in hundreds of hours watching other miniature painters. "
This is exactly what i feel.
Much much much much appreciated.
Oh thanks mate. Always good to know if info has been useful to people. 👍🏼
As a retired printer, I've been using this method for decades. With the base mixing colors from the PMS guide, I had the potential to create thousands of colors. Using CMYK (4-color process) with Pantone Purple, you can simulate the Hexachrome printing process
As yes, but we’re both old(er) and still know how things used to work before the internet. 👍🏼😜
Many of the tried and tested ways have just been lost over time. Which is a shame, I think.
@thestateofplay2023 Don't be too disappointed by that. Not only have you changed my views on painting minis, but you have changed my view on stuff NOT connected to minis.
The whole colour space transformation from RGB to CMYK when considering what was shown on screen (with your handy spectrum guide) to what I want on paper is a proper eye opener for photography and RAW processing.
Good information transcends time.
This video makes me feel like this is something I can wrap my head around! For me that's saying a lot! Thank you for taking the time (countless hours) to teach an old dog a new trick!
No problem. Just remember, you’re not an old dog, just a wise one that carefully picks their new tricks thesedays!!
For the free chart, you’ve earned my sub. Hats off to you!
You’re very welcome.
What an excellent video!!! Please release the chart as a pdf, would love to print this off for the wall.
I’m working on way to get the digital files out!
That was exactly my thoughts. It’s so useful that even HD is limited to view 🤩
@@thestateofplay2023 is there an update on this? My first thought also was that I needed to get this chart printed and up on my wall 😅
I've come back to this video so many times over the last year to mix colours, today I just mixed up the 24 "primaries" in dropper bottles for easier access to the browns and other neutrals. They came out perfect. Keep spreading the gospel of CYMK, all the colours I could ever need for under $100!
I love it when some advice I gave works well for someone!! Now if only my kids would listen…..
Do you use gel or liquid medium? What is the consistency of the result?
This is great! I started painting plastic models as a kid…I’m now 74…with Testers enamel paints. Mixed everything using the primaries (red, blue, yellow, black and white). This is really good info and spot on. No need to have a gazillion individual paint bottles each with some bazaar name. Mix your own, make a record of composition, make a color marker and move on! Really, really good video!!! Thanks!
Thank you! It’s nice to get praise from a veteran who knows more than me! 😀
You’re giving me more credit than I’m due, but thanks. Certainly enjoyed your video and content was very informative.
Bizarre
Brain hurts. Will pop over to Element games tomorrow and pick up all the inks I need. Please forgive me my collection of Vallejo paints - I loved you. Great video, subbed.
Oh I wish I was near an Element Games store. 😭
Your videos are SO good! I hope your channel grows quickly, you definitely deserve it.
Thank you! Now if could get RUclips itself to think like you….🤣🤣🤣
It's amazing to see not only the depth of knowledge you have, but how well you're able to teach this information. Thank you for making this and sharing the charts. I'm going to be picking up some inks and making my own paints
Thanks Daniel!
I have never been more engaged in a video from RUclips in my life. This video popped up just in time for my airbrush to arrive.
Very opportune indeed as they’ll go through an airbrush like a spicy dish through a sensitive stomach
Or butter. I probably should have said smooth as butter….🤣
Haha! I was a paste up artist in 92 and then spent 25 years in reprographics, sounds like we have some shared history.
Regarding inks, I was given a set of tattoo inks, and I've never seen pigment like them. I'm still experimenting with them but I like them a lot.
🤣🤣 OMG! Paste up. I’d blocked that from my memory. All that Rubylith tape and hours in a dark room. That’s how I started.
I'VE WANTED TO DO THIS SO MANY TIMES FOR SO LONG
Was met with frustration every time over not having THIS EXACT GUIDELINE TO WORK OFF OF!!!
THANK YOU!!!
Enjoy, saves soooo much money to mix your own...
As someone with past experience in paste-up and color separations for putting ink on paper, this video makes me so very happy. Thank you for coming along and telling me how many drops of each ink to combine to create the colors I want.
Ah paste up with the good old red litho tape! I remember spending hours doing that when I can now do it in seconds - in software! You’re welcome Brian. Glad to meet another experienced in the mystic ‘old ways”.
I've used this video and made my own paints, but I love the explanation so much. Your voice is so calming.
A calming voice? My kids would probably disagree…🤣
This is quality work going where others fear to tread and amazingly we have it from a true subject matter expert
Share folks, less than a thousand views in 2 days which represents about 100,000th of the folks who'd love this understanding
One day soon this channel will break out and honestly, 100% this should have been the vid
I'd even suggest a rerelease with a new "Warhammer" related title and a space marine thumbnail in a couple of weeks, none of us real enthusiasts would bat an eye.
REALLY great work that merits fabulous acclaim and reward.
Thanks Phil. And that’s great advice. Brings another tear to my eye! 😜👍🏼
Thanks for this awesome community resource! 🥳
…and thank you for your support!! 👍🏼
You should do a video on the different mediums that can be used to make the inks act more like paints. Things like matte medium and flow inprover.
Also, you should do a video on Payne's Grey. To many model painters don't know about the magic of this color as a wash.
Love your videos, but this one is my favorite so far. Keep at it.
Thanks! Yeah, paynes grey is an awesome colour! Over white as a wash it makes vampire skin look great!
I decided to try this out. I took the ratios from your recipe and piped it through an LLM to calculate measurements for the 24 base colors in 5ml batches. It worked very well and I'm ecstatic that I now have this much control over my paints. Thank you so much for this crash course and doing the work on figuring out the drops!
You’re very welcome.
I have spent 2 years trying to figure this out. Thank you so much for actually revealing the answer. The headaches this will prevent...
If it makes you feel better it’s probably taken me 30 years on and off. So you were much quicker!
Great video, feels like someone spilling the secrets of the magic circle!
Is there a ink circle! You think they’ll come after me?! 🤣🤣
There is a certain irony to watching this video and seeing a few hundred bottles of paint in the background.
Not really. Ink is ink. And paint is paint. I don’t use them the same way. 😜
Fair enough
…and I’m addicted to buying paint. So there’s is that. 🤣
The first step...
I’ve a drawer full of first step pins. I use them as spare bases thesedays. 👍🏼
honestly finding this video is a huge godsend for me. I was really losing a desire to do an eldar army because they have so many paints and colors. I thought I might have to be buying at least 200 dollars worth of paints just to get them and the aspect warriors done, but watching this really giving the confidence to go ahead with it.
Glad I could help out. Yeah you don’t need that many paints for the Aeldari. I mean, you CAN (like me, addicted to paint) but best to buy less and mix!
Absolutely class video mate, great production quality as always. 👍
Thanks!
I'm only just getting into this hobby - this video really massaged the amateur chemist parts of my brain, and I ended up buying myself the same 5 inks! Have you done any experimenting with different mediums in these inks?
I don't want to end up with an absolute horde of paint colours and brands for different types of painting and I'd love to know if you think it would be possible to get these into a base coat consistency. It's really pleasing to me just to use exactly what I need, and mix it up on demand. Saves space, money AND is more enjoyable (I think)
I bought myself some Liquitex matte medium and am still experimenting - I'm having fun anyway, but I'd definitely be interested in your thoughts!
There just aren't enough videos out there on mixing your own paints for miniature painting, so please keep up the good work talking about the science and craft behind it all!
Hey! Yes I’ve mixed a ton of mediums with these inks to get different effects. Contrast medium and speedpaint medium to make contrast paint. Golden Airbrush medium for airbrush. Pro acryl glaze and wash medium to make well, glazes and washes, Newsh to make erasable oil type paints. Gesso and others to thicken the inks. There’s load you can play with.
Best thing to do is think of what you’d like to do and grab a medium that might do it and then mix. Then test. Great fun!!
@@thestateofplay2023 very interesting, thanks! I didn't think of using gesso so I've ordered some Liquitex transparent gesso medium and we'll see what happens!
To thicken them up for now I've been using a cheap £2 tube of Crawford & Black white acrylic paint. It seems to work quite well, and because the paint is so cheap the fact that it has barely any pigment in it actually works to my favour, even if it does make the colours a little lighter. But the inks are so pigment heavy that I end up getting pretty usable colours, I just have to account for it.
Funny that it counts as bravery in this topic area to provide ... measurements. Well done sir.
Tried this with Golden High Flow acrylics, with the following report from the lab. They are handily named Process Magenta, Process Cyan, and Process Yellow, so there's no mistaking which colors to use. However, ALL 3 required thinning to get a decent match to the original 24 CHART. Used Layman's Medium (75mL water 5 mL matte medium + few drops flow improver -- minute 6:00) as the thinner. 3:1 thinner-magenta; 2:1 thinner-cyan and thinner-yellow.
Matched the chart well, but with all the thinning, these act like pre-mixed glazes out of an airbrush and a heavy glaze off a brush. A bit of letdown until I realized the airbrush glaze effect was better than anything I've achieved trying to thin down paint for airbrush glazing. You don't know until you try.
Man that’s cool. Someone in my Patreon tried it with dipping inks and made 24 colours of contrast type paint. And I’ve done it with liquitex acrylic gouache so I reckon we could all save a load of money. But I’m addicted to buying paint so there’s no hope for me. 🤣
You have just satisfied a very long-lasting thought I often fantasize about, which is to design and create my own paints dynamically based on the models I'm painting, from scratch or at least the basic foundations of paint and colour. Instead of relying on branded straight out the bottle.
I’m really glad it helped. 👍🏼
Impresive.
If only my A level Art teacher thought the same! 😜
This is one of those rare videos that changes how i do things and I have to share with everyone!! Thank you!!!
Thank you! Oh and thanks for your Patreon too! Always on both of you need a hand.
This is absolutely brilliant. Not all heroes wear capes 😁. Thank you for teaching me of a new skill i can develop ans implement in my painting journey
Thanks! I’m off to buy a cape. As you say, I don’t need it, but it’ll go great with my red pants. 😜👍🏼
This video is perfect, and I've learned so much from it. Being able to create my own colors from just 5 bases is amazing! I have a question: what proportion of speed paint medium should I mix with my inks to achieve a similar effect? And is there a homemade formula for speed paint medium? I'm not sure if you've answered these questions in the video because my English listening skills are not very good. Thank you very much! You've earned a subscriber, and I will continue to delve into your videos
There’s no exact mix for speedpaint medium. It will basically come down to taste. I often do 50/50 then just add more coats for lighter colours and darker is often 66/33 (2 drops medium to 1 ink).
Thank you for your quick response! One more question, if you don't mind me bothering you: I've watched the 8 tips video, but I'm not clear on the proportion to make the 'Lahmian Medium'. What are the proportions?
For ease you’ll find it on my website on the tips page. Number 15. 👍🏼
Thank you for all the work you put into this. It is truly appreciated.
Thank you very much. Seriously!
11:17 As an American, I have no idea what you are talking about.
14:28 "Why would you do this?" Because it's fun to mix and match colors! It's a fun experiment and can be just the palette cleanser that you need in between projects. People forget that miniature painting is art, and art is suppose to be a conduit for creativity and fun. This is definitely a creative way to make your own colors. So thank you for the video! I thoroughly enjoyed it!
It’s not that you’re American. Nobody knows what I talk about. 🤣
And you’re right. Colour (I mean color) IS fun!! Thanks for watching!
This is amazing, great work! The only problem I've found with this is that some contrasts and contrast-like paints don't work with these inks, e.g. yellow and red. For some reason the premade paint works way better than the homemade.
Ah yes, adding finely ground pigment directly to a medium will always be better. But the closest you’ll get is with inks mixed with medium. 👍🏼
@@thestateofplay2023 yeah, it's better than buying everything, that's for sure. For the rest of the colours though, it works exactly as the premade bottles
I keep coming back to this video because of how "I wish I thought of that" CMYK inks for minis are, and then get the feels when you mention the Sparmax. I have one thanks to you. And SO MANY of those paint marker empty refills. The last cheap hobbying thing left.
Nice. You know Sparmax made the Flyer SR2 but when I spoke to them they have no intention of selling it outside of Japan. 😳
@@thestateofplay2023 No problem. i have friends in Ja...NO! NOT AGAIN! You's be VERY good at sales.
As someone who is quite adept about art paint knowledge; I highly applaud you for this video. This is an INCREDIBLE video for the community and it is FREE. It will help people understand mixing better and implore them to use other products than they're used to, get creative, make their own stuff. Like a true artist. One point of criticism though: there is absolutely a reason to choose additional inks rather than stick to those you mentioned, simply because of the transparancy, inherent pigment properties like strength, lightfastness, finish, ... Though for a regular hobby-ist this is an overcomplication, I still feel like it should be mentioned. For example, Phthalo blue would give you much richer mixtures than the blue you have there, drops would be harder to calculate though, because it is VERY strong. With the blue you have there, it would also be impossible to mix a very dark chromatic black. Because it contains opacifiers/white.
Correct, Pthalo blue would do as you say but you’d need to use way more ink of the other colours to balance out. This making it no more cost effective than just buying other inks.
On the chromatic black. I agree, but 99% of the time in miniature paint people just want black. So they’d just use the K. Black. 🤣👍🏼
But for art in general I wholeheartedly agree with you. In fact I still have a huge variety of inks I use even though I can mix them. Sometimes, as you say, grabbing say, Paynes Grey, will always be easier.
This is the single greatest video on color for the hobby I have ever seen. THANK YOU!
Wow! Thank you. I only wish RUclips thought the same. 🤣🤣
quick, safe that video before the big companies take it down and the state of play misteriously vanishes!!!
No danger there. Pretty sure RUclips is doing a great job of burying my videos all by itself! 🤣🤣 You caught me on a “down on RUclips day”. 👍🏼
Liquitex sales on 5 colours go through the roof.
@@craigjones7343 oh don’t. I CAN’T go through that again….🤣🤣
This is so useful to actually have recipes for mixing Liquitex acrylic inks. It is very kind of you to do the research, format it so nicely and then just give it away. Thank you so much.
It’s my pleasure mate. Enjoy!
I've tried something of this, but I have a quick question for the professional: the cerulean you are using is opaque, while the yellow and magenta are transparent (as listed on the bottle). When I used it in mixing, it ended up obstructing some metallic and value underpainting. I ended up using Liquitex's deep turquoise ink instead, which is transparent and had a nice effect. I realize it's in the eye of the beholder , but is there a benefit to using the opaque cerulean that I'm missing? I'm new to color theory and don't want to overlook something.
Very good question. You could write an entire University Thesis on ink transparency!
You appear to have used the inks meat from the bottle which would utilise their exact properties. Once you mix. All those transparency ratios change.
Ink transparency is based on relative refractive indices (physics!). Basically how much light gets through both the pigment and the binder (medium) and how much is bounced back. What’s bounced back creates the colour we see with our eyes due to light wavelengths. That’s how we see colour. Bouncing light. Some bounce and hit our eye. Some don’t. We see the mix of the ones that bounce.
The magenta is listed as transparent but that didn’t stop the darker pigment overpowering other colours. If You use it neat, it would take more coats to cover a model. The neat cyan would cover in one(ish).
If the Cyan had also been transparent then all the drop ratios would have changed to get new colours. Because we’d need to fix all those bouncing light rays differently.
When you mix transparent and opaque inks the relative refractive index changes. All the light bouncing around is modified.
But in short Cerulean Blue is as close to Cyan as you’ll get so there’s little choice. Any other blue wouldn’t work.
Hope that helps!
Thanks! I'll try messing around with thinning down the cerulean.
Awesome. I always wanted this chart explained with drops. Thank you and excellent job
🤣 yeah, so did I. I searched for years then gave up and did one. 👍🏼
Get cool/warm ink as it is more than color, but overall this is a great video and I wish more people did this. Just buy some dropper bottles and make your own "skeleton horde" or whatever. The other benefit of using artist grade paint is.. you know what you are getting pigment wise compared to mini paint which is sausage most of the time. I mean GW started blowing its trumped over "single pigment" for the newer contrast, like it was some ground breaking improvement.. yet it has been standard in the art world.. forever?
Also since browns (or earth tones) are popular adding umbers and siennas really expands out the options. Everyone needs wood and leather.
🤣🤣🤣 oh man! “GW blowing a trumpet over single pigments” really made me laugh! You’re so right. On every point.
what a fantastic list of products for a hobby painter... woooooo weee!
Enjoy!
Can't tell you how many times I've looked for this kind of information from other sources and never found it presented in such a simple, captivating & comprehensive way as you have achieved here. Many other channels come across as gatekeepers for this type of inside knowledge but you seem the exact opposite. Sub earned, hope you get many many more!
🤣🤣 I know what you mean. I watch hundreds of videos and often get to then end thinking “great video, but how do I do that again?!”.
Incredibly informative, concise, and put together.
Thank you!
Great information, clearly and simply presented and entertaining too. Thanks for the best explanation of colour mixing I've seen. Top notch video 👌
Ah Mike! If only I had another million like you! 🤣👍🏼
Thank you for putting this together. I’m a gunpla (Gundam plastic model) builder and mainly use an airbrush to paint my kits. I can’t count how many times I’ve tried to mix paints for specific colours without success. Having this chart will make mixing custom colours so much easier!
Glad it helped
Iv'e been going through all your videos and you are hands down fast becoming my favourite hobby channel. Everything is so well produced. You deserve 100k+ subs!
🤣🤣i think all creators are slave to the whims of the algorithm. I’m old and patient. I can wait!
What a fantastic video... Learned more about paints and colours in this video and learned that I was lied to at school ... Primary colours bah!
🤣🤣 never trust a word you learn at school.
Awesome work! This video should have way more views. I can really see the work and effort you put into this video, so thanks very much, your work is appreciated 👍 Don't let yourself down when the RUclips Algorithm sometimes doesn't push your videos, it happens.
Thanks! Yeah it’s a weird one this. The impressions are 90% down on this one. But we push on!! 😜👍🏼
Feel free to share it. It might help...🤣
This was mind blowing and fascinating at the same time !
You should see me make a sandwich and watch Netflix at the same time!! 🤣
I just started getting into painting miniatures for my board games. Doing the math I would go broke buying specialized miniature paint. I knew there had to be a way to use acrylic paint/ink to make your own mini paint. After a week of searching, your video finally had the info I needed. THANK YOU!
You’re welcome! Now stop writing to me and get painting those bad boys!!
For once in my life I thank the algorith to lead my way here. The info you give us is priceless. Neat and clean. Thank you very much!
Thanks for the compliment. I only wish I’d like the algorithm! 🤣instead, I find it a fickle mistress who blames you for something you never did….😜👍🏼
I love this. I can see myself coming back to this video over and over in the future.
Good job it’s digital. If it was VHS, that tape would be ruined!!
Probably the best and most useful painting video that I have ever watched.
Thanks for that. Made my day!! 😀
This is the content creation we've been looking for
I read that in Obe Won Kenobi’s voice….🤣
What a fantastic video, I really wish you made these charts available to download however, being in a video they suffer from RUclipss compression
They’re on my Patreon.
This is a fantastic learning tool to understand what is happening, you explain tones, tinting and shading really well what to mix. For me having a recipe is not so important though, always just mix to get to the colour needed even if doing more of the same scheme later and have to mix all over again.
Learned a lot from painting purely with the Zorn palette of black, white, yellow ochre and vermillion when trying to paint Blanchitsu style grimdark minis and really wish I had started with just these 4 colours a long time ago because it taught me so much. Can get some cracking skin tones too.
Nice! I haven’t tried the Zorn palette yet 🤔
Thank you so very much for this information. I’m terrible with mixing paints and I’ve always wanted to learn more about how to do this correctly
Glad I could help.
One of the greatest video on "making color theory". Amazing, thanks!
A pleasure!
This may be the best video on paints, inks, and mixing them that I’ve ever seen. No. Correct that. This definitely is! Subscribed.
You’re welcome!
Amazing! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Information I have been struggling to understand for YEARS! “But how do I know how much of what makes what?” Is suddenly so clear. ❤❤❤
I’m so glad it helped! 👍🏼
I just found this… and … absolutely wonderful guide. Thank you
Glad you found it!! 👍🏼
@@thestateofplay2023 Haven't been able to use them as proper paints, but they are great as customized washes and glazes!
This may be one of my new favorite videos. Thank you for all your hard work!
Not a problem!
Thank you for this video. I have a question, at 5:56 you mentioned a medium you made in your top 8 tips video.. I am struggling to find what was the medium you made? 😅
Of course it was 5 mins after I posted the question that I found the answer. 😂 For anyone who had the same (ineffective) panic speed watching everything trying to find it... It's under the "8 MORE Overlooked Miniature Painting Hobby Tips!" video @ 1:30 mark. 🎉
It’s also on my website in the tips page - tip 15. 👍🏼
@@thestateofplay2023 Thank you, I will check out your website as well! 😊
This is brilliant, thank you! When you're just getting started like me, all these details and demonstrating every step with full illustration/demonstration gives me a real "recipe" I can follow until I know what I'm actually doing!
You’re very welcome!
Another brilliant video. I'd been looking forward to this, but it never popped up in my feed. Sacrilege!
Yeah, I’ve been hearing that a lot. Thanks for watching though!! 👍🏼
so daler rowner have process blue, process yellow and process magenta. are these the equivalents to the colours you picked? great vid btw
Yes, they are. Process cyan, process yellow, process magenta. 👍🏼
This is much like how all the companies make the paints they have. It's all based on ratio per color. In my work I use CYMK, Pantone and painters color books depending on what the client brings. It's always a challenge to match one color system with another color system.
This system you made, helps people make colors rather easy. It's just like a paint store. You bring them a paint chip from the stores inventory, that store can look at the recipe of what color is needed to mix this paint chip color. They will always get the same results as long as they follow the ratios as listed. We are doing the exact same thing if we follow the chart you presented.
Very well put!! 😀 Thank you!
Came here from Reddit and glad I did! Awesome video. I actually bought an ink for the first time yesterday to make my own black wash so I'm already dabbling!
That’s how it starts. First it’s a black wash, then a brown - pretty soon you’ve got a lab coat on, test tubes and micro scales to weigh out the ink. 🤣🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 I am a Chemistry teacher so I am already there! Do you have any tips on making your own medium for speed/contrast paints?
@@robthespaceninja hmm, my logic on this is GW likely wanted to use ingredients they already had. So my guess is it’s based on Lahmium medium. We know that’s distilled water and matte medium. And contrast looks thicker and flows better. So my guess is it’s distilled water, more matte medium and flow improver.
It’s the ratios we need to figure out. I’d only we had a chemist? 🤔
@@thestateofplay2023 I will report back with my findings
@@thestateofplay2023OK so I got the last of the bits today and had a play around. I made ink 12 first to play around with. Made a medium using 50% Matt medium and 50% water with a few drops of flow enhancer. Then I mixed equal parts of the ink and medium and it worked really really well!
Would you be able to share the list of hex colors you used to build your swatch palette? It would be super helpful to have as a reference. I know it’s not the same as the actual colors. Thank you!
The swatch pallette is the actual inks painted on paper so hex values would be of little use. Mainly because hex are for web and screen and CMYK inks are for print. They won’t be the same at all.
Ahh… thanks for clarifying how those were made. Still so much for me to learn. Keep up all the great work on your videos!
No problem!
Wanted to start this hobby but was overwhelmed by the amount of inks paints washes etc ... This might be the way to go and get a relatively cheap start thanks!
It is but inks are a specific use case for different painting purposes. They’ll work but as a new starter I’d always recommend picking up a starter set from a good brand.
thanks heaps ,man, you've saved me so much work here as someone who just got into using liquitex inks to mix colours for airbrushing
Not a problem mate! Glad it helped. Should certainly save you a chunk of money!!
Thank you so much. I paint miniatures since 2020 and this is the best video about color mixing that I ever watched.
Thank you for saying that!
What an absolutely legendary video. Thanks mate
Thank you. Thought I share some wisdom from an older geezer!! 🤣
Love the Video!
Very good introduced, explained ❤❤❤
Thank you very much! 👍🏼
Thanks! You gave me an excellent project to learn colors!!!
Hope it helps! Colour mixing is a cool project. Don’t get too annoyed if things end up brown- it happens to us all!
Quite likely the best discussion of color theory I've stumbled upon on RUclips!
You’re lucky. YT buried this video on release. Showed it to only 300 people, not even my subs. I have no idea why so glad you found it!!
Loved your video, you just saved a lot of people a ton of money in contrasts and washes, I just made 20 bottles today, half of them by following your guide and the rest by experimenting.
I’m so glad it helped!
Ive got the same GW Citadel Inks from the same period! I have very little Black Brown and Chestnut left and yes theyre still viable. I also have the Ral Partha Dragonscale wax rub on that was bundled with the inks and the 1st paint pots from GW and Ral Partha's leathers and skins paint (that didnt even come in a box and at the time you couldnt buy individual Citadel Colours paint or inks, or Ral Parthas for that matter) but they had flimsy cardboard trays wrapped in cellophane that were themed. Grasses and plants would get you 4 shades of green, 2 basic sets got you white,red,orange,yellow,green,blue,sky blue,purple,brown,tan,black,silver,gold and that weird pink they called Flesh. The paints are 50/50 surviving, but the inks still work, like you mention. This is the 1st time Ive heard them referenced. I had gotten out of the hobby after I lost all my RPG stuff I had gathered when I was in the US Navy (89-93) with the exception of the GW and RP paints the inks and the waxes, that I had taken with me to my parents house while they spent a month in Europe. Just with in the last couple years Ive gotten back into table top BattleTech, so painting minis is encouraged. Great tips and the break down charts are brilliant!
Oh man, you’re references REALLY take me back. I still have a bunch of unpainted Ral Partha minis in a box.
Dude, we’re OLD! 🤣🤣
I have been looking for a video like this for 5 years. Thank you
Sorry it took so long! 🤣🤣 glad it helps!
Wow. So well explained!
Thanks. I was worried I’d explained too much. 👍🏼
@@thestateofplay2023 It is a lot, but also, very informative and well structured. A good pace and great examples.
Another thing I love about artists inks and paints (though I don't use artists paints as they have other issues making them less suited to the mini painting I do) is that they list the actual pigments used. Titanium White is titanium white, phalo blue is phalo blue, whether its Daler Rowney, Liquitex, or someone else. And when they've used multiple pigments they're all listed.
You should try the liquitex arcylic gouache for mini painting. Exactly as you describe with pigments but work well on minis.
This video is incredibly helpful for me to understand the colour theory and also save some money! Thanks a lot! You got a subscriber!
Thanks Vikas. Glad it helped
So. This was just awesome.
And I have three of the inks. Think it is time to shop for empty dropper bottles and a few more things.
Thanks a lot!
I’m glad it helped out. Saves a ton of cash too!! 👍🏼😜
1st vid i have seen from you, and this was very well made and informative. Thanks!
Your welcome! Glad you found it!
You and your videos are highly underrated!
That’s what I told all the women I met growing up. Where were you as my wingman then!! 🤣🤣
It would be great if you made a follow up video on painting with these by making your own contrast medium - or even using these as normal paints, if possible?
As contrasts yes, I just mix the ink with speedpaint medium. As normal paint, not so much as I already own like, 1000 paints and use ink for different things. Mostly transparent effects or easy no thinning airbrushing.
What an amazing video. Its clear that you know your color theory very well.
Thank you Chris! Very appreciated! Most colour theory just comes with time. Over 33 years making movie posters and computer game art it just sinks in! Even though most of them are Teal and orange anyway!!