@@SandeshShak yes it is. Joey already said that he still watches anime just not posting content about it. I hope they call out how stale these jokes are lol
@@MsAnimeFreak777 He said on a recent TT that One Piece was still carrying Shonen Jump sales, yeah he’s definitely not actually looked at sales anytime recently. Demon Slayer outsold One Piece by four times in 2020, and in 2021 Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, and My Hero Academia outsold it (also Attack on Titan, which is outside Shonen Jump).
Based picks. March Comes in like a Lion is my favorite anime and Made in Abyss is in my top 10 easily. I'm surprised neither are listed considering how highly they're rated on most sites like Myanimelist or Anilist and just how almost universally praised/loved they are.
Assassination Classroom LITERALLY made me want to become a teacher. While I did love the assassin-part, seeing how the students grew and their dynamic with Koro-sensei, that was THE SHIT!
One of the greatest things about that series was that it was constructed as a whole story with an endpoint in mind so it didn't meander around just because it could. That's one of the biggest differences between it and so many other shonen. The mangaka knew the story they wanted to tell.
It's in my personal Top 10, but considering what it was up against, I'm just glad it managed to crack 20. AC reminded me why I loved my teachers more than my family: they saw me for me, not what they could get out of me. I hope your teaching career does the same for the kids who need that the most.
Assassination classroom just makes me feel nostalgic. It’s genuinely really good and made me actually cry (rare thing fr). All the characters, even background characters had some sort of depth
I actually find JJK to have an extremely strong manga fan base. These people are on Reddit every day writing essays theory crafting about everything in the JJK manga. On top of that there are so many youtube channels that are cranking multi-hour long video essays explaining how the power system works and things of that nature. I didn't truly understand why so many fans where doing this until I caught up with the manga. The manga is amazing, and I highly recommend you catch up/start reading if you enjoyed the anime.
I wouldn’t say that Jujutsu Kaisen is carried by animation I have seen many people adore the manga source material almost to the same level as CSM It’s just that the beginning(basically all of season 1) is very standard and safe
But thats why currently in the anime it is being carried by animation because it has not caught up to the source material. This ranking is based on anime so its not fair to take source material into account when some of the shows were original animes
And not even just the shibuya arc that made jjk, I feel like it was just the introduction into the new tone of jujutsu kaisen like reading chapter 212 and just all of the most recent chapters is crazy for how they’re progressing the story. Gege is really cooking for us Joey definitely ain’t wrong tho because the vibe from the first season was a lot more standard like it took me until my 4th time watching it did I like it even
if you care too look for it , it does a have a lot of complexity, with character motivations and the more philosophical questions about the soul and such
The thing that I feel sets JJK apart from the other modern shonen is the action, particularly the choreography. So in a way it does rely on the animation. But that's like saying an action series is carried by the action. Like no shit.
After Gojo got sealed the manga got really bad imo. So many long explanation or plot point that go nowhere or end up with a plain bad reveal. The combats are overly explained like a bad version of hunter x hunter, maybe Gege idolized Togashi and tried to emulate his style but failed. I dont need a page full of text dedicated to explaining a random guys's power the same chapter hes getting defeated and never seen again. The combat also doesnt fit well in manga form, you get like 5 movements in 1 panel from 1 character and you dont get the intensity from it.
Words cannot describe how happy I am to see Space Dandy and Odd Taxi mentioned in this list. Kotaku definitely WATCH anime. Those two series are such underrated gems and are massive favorites of mine.
Though I think Odd Taxi does get a lot of love. We just have to keep it in people's recommended list as time passes. I was thrilled Space Dandy made the list.
I was shocked to see Summertime Render on there, especially so high. No complaints though. It was my favourite anime of 2022, so I think it definitely deserves the spot, I might even put it higher. It’s shame that Disney locked it away for so long, which killed most of the hype around it.
I watched that show almost till the end and i dropped in like 15 episode,it was to much repetitive for me although i love Re:Zero,it was one of these animes that i though i would like but i didn't,also that plot twists are too obvious for me..
I was shocked to see it on the list because the anime is pure garbage that's why. Is there any redeeming good qualities about the anime at all? I don't really think there is honestly, even if you want to say the mystery element of it is good, it's really not there was nothing well thought out or deeply planned, nothing really written that well for a mystery honestly. Especially when you have anime like Monster and Death note that already set the bar high, it's got a lot it has to live up to and it fails. When it comes to mystery kinda gotta use that big brain and write it more complex, because the best part of mystery anime is solving the mystery and it should feel like an intelligent anime that actually makes you think and use your brain but at the same time not be predictable.
25:51 this is how you know Joey doesn’t engage or is aware of the animanga community at all, JJK’s manga fan base is massive. I can agree that s1 doesn’t stray too far from a standard shonen but it still has fantastically written and likeable characters with great fight scenes (in both the anime and the manga). And everything that happens in the manga afterwards is absolutely beloved by fans almost to the same level as the CSM manga. Seriously think he’s just mixing up Demon Slayer and JJK here because while Demon Slayer has it’s manga fans… the best parts of the series come from the anime and that’s always what everyone is talking about.
Relative to newcomers to anime, or relative to people who've already seen and read a lot of shonen? Genuine question, since I can remember people saying similar things about MHA and other big shonen anime. "Just wait for this arc, then it gets amazing!" I read/watch what they recommend and am underwhelmed because it feels like many other shonen I've seen. So maybe the better question is, is shibuya good relative to the shonen standard, or the book/manga/film/anime medium as a whole?
@@peacefulbystander847 I'd say with shounen for sure, at this point in the manga it doesn't even really feel like a shounen anymore. All that started with shibuya. As for compared to anime/fiction as a whole. Not that groundbreaking imo, although the complexity of the plot and morality in the world gets pretty high tier with crazy twists. Defo top tier manga
@@Skaffabranca Alright, sounds reasonable. One issue I have when people give recommendations, at least with anime/manga, is that it feels inconsistent whether they're recommending it as a truly great piece of fiction or good relative to shonen or seinen or romance or etc. It feels like they recommend it based off what appealed to them the most. And while that isn't bad, I feel when giving recommendations one should adopt a broader perspective since we don't all share the same priorities.
@@peacefulbystander847 Shibuya Incident is basically sort of a giant finale battle of the first half of JJK. What makes it good is that unlike most shounen's, the good guys get absolutely demolished and manage to achieve nothing. That's how it subverts classic shounen trope of Heroes winning in the big finale. Shibuya can be compared to Avengers Infinity War. Just helpless heroes watching as the bad guys cause massive destruction.
@@peacefulbystander847 what do you think of Chainsaw Man or Hell's Paradise? because those 2 with JJK are exactly the same about being a different shonen
I remember starting Golden Kamuy after Joey talking about how underrated it was in the main channel. the way they mixed comedy into serious scene was so brilliant.
Jjk: best selling manga 2022 Joey: have you heard of any jjk manga fans? No. Yeah, this HAS to be a troll. Edit: jjk is the only series except the big three that youtubers can legit live off talking only about it Also, W commenters for calling him out on this
I think the reason why you don't hear anything from JJK's manga readers is that fact that people are being safe trying not to spoil people. I love the manga and anytime I would like to discuss it with people i rather not because of how good and fun it becomes. To keep others spoiler free is probably the main reason why you do not hear people talk about it if anything. Animation carrying it sure I can see the argument for the first season but from someone who is reading the manga, the first season is mostly set up for what season 2 is going to tackle.
On the topic of spoilers, I planned on watching Cyberpunk: Edgerunners at some point, but I've kinda been put off by all the spoilers I've gotten for it, and I barely even use social media. People just don't know how to keep their trap shut, and it's annoying.
@@TocsTheWanderer yeah if you have been spoiled about cyberpunk it's going to heavily nerf the enjoyment you would have had if has watched it without any knowledge. Many of the scenes rely on shock value, you can still try it though
@@Bass897 insert a gif of a cube with gojo "nah i'd win" planel as one of its sides falling onto a hard surface and rotating onto a side which has him decapitated laying onto the floor:
@@Sukenus Yeah, I noticed it was missing, but I haven't watched it myself so I couldn't say. Death Parade is one of my personal favorites... wasn't sure when it came out.
Saying Bocchi isn't good because these other music anime exist and are also good is such a strange argument. Did it deserve to be so high? Most likely not, but I think it's a hard stance to take only 7 eps in. Still, love hearing your opinion. Keep up the good work, dude!
I don't think it's weird, I've watched Bocchi twice now and I don't think there's a reason to think someone's opinion will change drastically as you go on to finish it, there really isn't a huge "bang" waiting at the end that will suddenly boost it up really high, Bocchi is more or less a consistent stable experience quality wise throughout. And If Joey thinks there's better music animes out there It should not be weird that he finds it weird that it's so high in a top 30 of ALL TIME list.
I mean 7 episodes are pretty good to judge the show imo. first 8 episodes are the better part, the last 4 episodes are the most forgettable part about bocchi. Bocchi is a pretty episodic show, rather than promising a futuristic plot or payoff it tries to deliver in small arcs, so 7 episodes are enough
@@r1ght_n0w I understand, I said I love hearing his opinion regardless. Just thought it was odd to compare its quality with two other music anime that didn't actually qualify for the list (it was top of the decade, not all time). Beck and K-On are also great, but I don't think the fact that they exist invalidates the quality of Bocchi. 😅
Not that bad of a list, but in my opinion they really missed some of the best anime which came out in the last 10 years. My own top 30 would probably look something like this - 30. Summer Time Rendering 29. Ranking of Kings 28. Barakamon 27. Bocchi the Rock! 26. One Punch Man 25. Houseki no Kuni 24. Your Lie in April 23. Hinamatsuri 22. Demon Slayer 21. KonoSuba 20. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners 19. Beastars 18. Golden Kamuy 17. F/SN UBW 16. March comes in like a Lion 15. Chainsaw Man 14. Dorohedoro 13. Violet Evergarden 12. Jobless Reincarnation 11. Odd Taxi 10. Parasyte the Maxim 9. Vivy 8. Kaguya-sama 7. Saiki 6. Kill La Kill 5. Mob Psycho 100 4. Re:Zero 3. Vinland Saga 2. Made in Abyss 1. Attack on Titan
@@SamTheGumMan117 If i added JoJo it would probably be somewhere around 7 or 6. But since technically the anime came out before this decade (before 2013) I excluded it from my list. The same goes for Gintama. Sure there were a lot of seasons which released in the last 10 years, but I still can't but it in my list.
I think about this every time I see a top anime list, I think its genuinley impossible to make a tier list on best anime of all time or the last decade because its so subjective. Its so based on your personal taste, what was popular, recency bias, etc.
And yet I do think this feels like Kotaku’s list was made by mostly people who watch a ton of anime. In contrast, IGN’s recent top 25 anime (of all time, which is a bolder claim than merely ranking the last 10 years) felt like it was mostly made by people watching the most mainstream stuff with maybe one or two people trying to get some excellent non-mainstream stuff in there (nothing wrong with mainstream, but it does make lists predictable when the pattern becomes obvious). Even their solo shojo pick felt like a mainstream pick, Ouran was great, but it felt like it was there purely for being so well known in the 2000s, whereas other shojo like Nana or the new Fruits Basket would arguably be considered better.
I honestly think this top 30 is pretty valid. Granted, some of the rankings are questionable but I’d say it’s relatively very good. A few anime I think from the past decade deserve to be on this list. To your eternity, Fruits basket 2019, Ping pong the animation, devil man crybaby, and Made in abyss. Those are each respectively all top 20 somewhere in my opinion.
I'd personally put Space Dandy in my top 10, that show hit me in all the right places. the animation goes sooooo hard, it was like mob psycho levels before mob psycho
How time flys...wow that came out ten years ago. I remembered seeing the commercials. Told my buddy he would probably really like this anime as well. Feels like only a few years ago. Not thaaat long ago. Fml. Good times rolled away to fast.
@@Kevin-fj3ff theres literally 0 complexity to them, theyre tailored for 14 year olds to enjoy, no nuance in storytelling, characters are one dimensional as fuck and barely change nor get faced with any actual hard decision path, etc i can go on if u want but yeah. theyre basic as fuck shonen stories, built for mass appeal and nothing much else.
I hated volleyball before I watched haikyuu. Dunno why I decided to even check it out bc I was certain that I will drop it after episode 1 of S1. Well, that certain episode made me bawl my eyes out and I binge watched the whole season in two days. Now Haikyuu is still one of my fav series and I do not hate volleyball anymore like I used to (thanks to school P.E classes I hated the sport in the first place). So it's accurate that haikyuu changed at least my mind about a sport.
25:55 that's really cap 🧢 considering JJK ranks consistently TOP 10 in manga sales lol and ESPECIALLY since everybody knows the best JJK arcs are yet to come. And I don't get the "it doesn't bring anything new to the table" argument either, like what's wrong with having a great cast and amazing fight scenes/choreography? Does every new shonen have to reinvent the wheel or something
His manga comments were blatantly wrong, but anime comment wasn't. JJK S1 is very well done but its super safe and tbf to it, it is a very solid introduction to the series. But I absolutely hate how manga readers hyped it way too much both before and after the anime. It totally doesn't deserve to be in the list, since it is season fucking 1. Also didn't deserve to win anime of the year. Manga readers were super biased when it came to voting etc.
Pretty solid list. Would have personally included Made in Abyss, Ping pong the animation, Land Of The Lustrous, Death Parade, To your eternity, Devil Man Crybaby, Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju and March comes in like a lion.
Haikyuu imo is the sport anime for this generation. If Captain Tsubasa inspires people to do soccer (Fernando Torres said that he waa inspired to dp soccer cuz he wached Capt Tsubasa when he was younger), Slam Dunk inspires people to do basketball (I've heard smth abt Slam Dunk actually made the sport popular in Japan), then Haikyuu is the one which inspires this generation to do volleyball. And this is coming from me who haven't even watch the anime nor read the manga.
Joey's takes on JJK are just getting worse and worse. Mid? Sure, whatever, an opinion is an opinion. But borderline slandering what Gege Akutami has been achieving with the manga ESPECIALLY in the last few chapters has been fucking excellent. His art is brilliant, the story is ramping up, the characters are being pushed to their breaking points, and Gojo hasn't even been in the series for the last hundred or so chapters. That's not even mentioning the Shibuya Incident or the Culling Games which are both absolutely fantastic battle royale arcs that go fucking wild, and that's in just the manga. Saying JJK is "heavily dependent" on the anime is just insulting to Akutami. Like, I'm not mad he has a different opinion, Joey gets a rise out of telling people JJK is mid because it's funny, but the shit he's said here is just rude and disrespectful to Akutami and the manga fans that really adore the series.
Really. Someone had to say this. Gege Akutami is already someone I've come to respect so much ever since I read shibuya, this borderline slander is painful to watch
It's really cool to see Space Dandy and Ass Class one of my favourite shonens of all time in there, also Joey, I think you'd enjoy the OPM manga a lot plus no Made in Abyss holy crap
Dont do us like that the JJK manga fans are just chilling living our best lives knowing that next season gonna go crazy. Also ranking of kings deserves its stop if not higher and Space dandy should of been higher
Ranking of Kings is easily in the Top 10, or even Top 5, for me. Genuinely an amazing show that I always recommend to people, and it made me want more from that world after the show ended, and I hope it gets a second season, just to build upon the characters and world.
I would disagree with jujutsu kaisen, I adore the manga and its such a captivating story. seeing a main character that feels very human in his emotions/reactions but ye great video!
@@zap7737 Joey thinks bleach is better written than JJK. And he will stick to this no matter what . As a big bleach fan, its not even close . He surprisngly has a big blindspot when it comes to JJK.
Shuumatsu Touring has been similarly enjoyable, though less feels so far. Another series I really enjoyed that felt similar but isn't really an apocalypse was Kino's Journey, would recommend.
I absolutely love Bocchi the Rock. I rewatched it several times with my friends and I never get tired of watching it. This is only my opinion, but I will remember this as years go by. They did an amazing job with the adaptation, how they portray social anxiety, amazing characters, voice actors, and the music is fantastic. And how it meant to me personally.
Hate that people keep comparing this to K-on . Imo it's nothing like it, I have tried watching K-on and couldn't stand it (didn't like the characters and art style). I went into Bocchi thinking I was going to drop it but ended up loving it
@@ACViper It's like how people can't acknowledge the existence of Kakegurui without saying "Kaiji better lmao" Anime fans actually judge a show on its own merits challenge (Impossible)
Yep. I despise "school" based animes, especially the high school girl anime genera. (Like for example, Beastars annoyed me because it was too school focused, and I was way more invested in the world outside of the school. I'm clearly a furry, but even the furry bait wasn't enough for me when they were focusing so much on dumb high school drama when it just felt pointless and wasted the world around it). I thought I was gonna not really like Bocci too but... This one was different. I suffer from severe social anxiety, and the way they handled it was incredible!! Not only in the execution but also in a way that gives people like me hope. I gave up a lot of my passions because of my social anxiety, and struggled in a lot of similar ways to Bocci. I couldn't help but cheer her on and watch her overcome her anxiety as the series progressed! I also love her friends too, learning to understand her and not treating her any different because of her anxiety (with the exception of giving her a bit of a push here and there). A show like this would have really helped me as a kid and I even find it helping me now even though I'm a grown adult. Is the show absolutely perfect? Well... no. But I do think that this show has helped not only people who struggle with anxiety, but helps other people understand it more too who might have people in their life who struggle with it!
The thing with Bocchi that Joey didn’t mention for the series is the absolutely lightning in a bottle production, which I’d say is genuinely the best we’ve had from a TV series in the industry since Mob Psycho. Director, animators, seiyuus all being given their first chance in an anime and it all worked so well. FFS Bocchi’s VA did that iconic scream without editing, and only recently started playing the electric guitar
as someone who has ONLY read the jjk manga not watched the anime, and have also read a lot of shounen, I dont think you are giving it the credit it deserves. It is a very fun action series, and the Culling Game Arc where im currently at is fantastic. Also my favourite part of the manga is how short the fights are, they punch it out quickly so we can go back to lore lol.
Re:ZEro is Isekai Anime done right, in my opinion. Just as Joey said, Subaru isn't OP, he's in fact a normal human, he's got to rely on others to protect him if he's in a fight as he can only do so much himself, which sometimes turns out to be just the right amount. He doesn't get isekaied into a new world only to instantly become 10 times stronger than even the strongest person alive in that world, or any such dumb shit like that, he's basically an example of what it would look like if any average joe had been plucked out from their world and placed in another world with no idea what is going on, nothing to their name, and no power to hide behind if things get tough. And all that's why I liked it so much even though I wasn't ever a big fan of the trope of do-overs and such.
Thoughts on JJK: Jujutsu Kaisen is one of the highest selling manga in Japan and overseas. Saying "no one" reads it and that the animation makes it great shows that you do just see it as another shonen. As someone who doesn't enjoy traditional battle shonen it is the only traditional series like that I have ever gotten into and really enjoyed. I read it and watch it and it's strength is the depth of it's characters and how they offer different perspectives on the world. Things I Think Belong On The List That Aren't: Made in Abyss, Girl's Last Tour, Yuru Camp, Sonny Boy, and FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood. I'm sure there are more but those are the ones that stood out to me as things that were deserving and lacking. The list is more deverse than I expected but still leaned too heavily toward action and adventure with little to no slice-of-life or romance.
@@thomasffrench3639 I do like shonen but I don’t tend to like ones focused mostly on battle unless they are something like Bakuman where the “battle” isn’t a physical brawl. I just love the characters in JJK a lot.
@@sefatsilverlake3816 awww, ok my husband thought it was older but I thought it was within the last ten years… I only watched it recently didn’t realize I was that behind. Lol
tbh, Golden Kamuy is the biggest W just to see it included on this list. literally nobody on youtube talks about this anime, and I feel like there's SO MUCH that could be said in terms of analysis... it's honestly criminally under-mentioned. like, I'm not even calling it "underrated" because everyone who has actually watched it seems to love it, in my experience. it's just that it never really took off and got that hype train momentum. seriously tho, ask me about Golden Kamuy, I can talk about it extensively.
@@solittle272 oh, you are about to have such a fun time! I hope you like it, it's very very weird, but all together, I think it does everything right. ^_^
Ranking of Kings share the same problem with Erased. The first half was phenomenal and really gets you invested in the story. But then in the second half it starts to drag itself through the mud and it starts to feel like a "cartoon" as they remove all the risks and everyone just became friends in the end.
I personally think Bocchi will last in terms of relevancy. I understand that the fandom is pretty insane, but I also think Bocchi is truly a masterpiece. I think Bocchi might have already become a modern classic. I don't think it's the best of the decade or anything, but I would have absolutely put it on this list.
Surprising enough a lot of people still undersell the adaptation aspect of it, people act like Bocchi is popular because "relatable fr fr" when a lot of credit goes for the amazing Director and Animators showing such creativity in that show, while putting in a top 30 of decade might be hard to argue, it's easily one of the few adaptations that is better than the manga in every single aspect and there's shows that I gave 9 or a 10 that I don't think that was something above the source material.
I respectfully disagree with this. I can't see how it is a masterpiece or a modern classic yet, as there were nothing in it that made it stand out in a significant way, or at least I haven't yet had anyone describe why it is supposed to garner that amount of praise. To me they overplayed Bocchi's social anxiety from it being cute and funny into it being dull and transparent. Is it the character arc and the coming-of-age narrative bits that is the most significant part that people are appreciating about this anime, or am I missing something here? It's a good anime for sure, but nothing above what we have seen so far in my oppinion.
@@ZahhibbDev "there were nothing in it that made it stand out in a significant way" I don't know what you on about but Bocchi's creative and insane animation and direction alone makes it stand out if you ask me. Like it had claymation, bocchi's game of life sequence, 3d rendered bocchi and literal recording of real life world and all the over the top art styles just for a specific gags, they even went 4:3 aspect ratio for referencing old animes. And obviously the music. They released an album with literally 14 songs and they are all bangers. The characters are also great and have great chemistry with each other and play a huge role to how good this series is. And also the voice acting, Two of the main characters being relatively new absolutely killed it and made it amazing. There's also actual growth and development to bocchi as a character as well with her social anxiety. If all of this doesn't make it a modern masterpiece then I don't know what will.
@@ZahhibbDev It had cool and creative animation with a good director. It also truly elevated the source material in almost every way, which I've never seen before.
Bocchi the Rock is also in competition with the BanG Dream franchise now, and oh yeah Bang dream with the exception season 1 of the anime is a true masterpiece series.
25:52 "Have you heard of any Jujutsu Kaisen manga fans" You know Joey is out of the loop from anime and manga when he said sht like this. People literally won't shut up about Shibuya arc.
Joey really out here living in a world where he hasn't heard about Jujutsu Kaisen manga fans. Didn't think it was possible. Read it for the love of god.
Considering a good music based anime floats up about every 3-5 years I’m pretty sure that as long as it rides the wave with another season or 2 Bocchi will last and be remembered.
I think my personal list would go: 1. Tale of the Princess Kaguya 2. Violet Evergarden 3. Made in Abyss 4. A Silent Voice 5. Your Name 6. Assassination Classroom 7. Attack on Titan 8. March Came in like a lion 9. Maquia 10. Promised Neverland (just season 1) 11. Kaguya-sama Love is War 12. Parasite 13. Haikyuu 14. Mob Psycho 100 15. Madoka Magica 16. Chainsaw Man 17. Promare 18. Death Parade 19. Re:Zero 20. Fruits Basket 21. Snow White with Red Hair 22. Yona of the Dawn 23. Odd taxi 24. Ranking of Kings 25. To Your Eternity 26. A Place Further than the Universe 27. One Punch Man 28. No Game No Life 29. Spy x Family 30. Tamako Market
Oh man Joey definetly read the One Punch Man manga. Its insanee af 🔥🔥🔥 If it gets animated by Mappa once again itll be better then season 1 for sure imo
i feel like joeys takes are always super oldschool, i cant tell if its him looking back when the shows where good or not. but ive gone out of my way to watch a lot of older shows hes talked about and they just dont live up to what he says. sure they are good but i think a lot of his opinion is "i liked it when i was young so it has to still be the best" and its also weird for him to comment on animation in newer shows then turn right around and say some older shows are better when comparably the older shows are gonna have worse animation just do to the constraints at the time. to me its similar to what jacksepticeye said "you dont actually think my older content was better, you just have better memory's of where you were when you watched my content back then"
20:47 never seen Beck, but as someone who has seen and likes both K-On and Bocchi the rock, I'd choose BtR over K-On, musically speaking. K-On has bangers, but its music is a bit too poppy and bubbly for my taste. I think the music in BtR feels more "grounded" because it's more leaned toward alternative rock (despite I don't really listen to that genre a lot, but I can enjoy it sometimes). Another thing I like about BtR is the animation, it's very creative when it comes to portraying Bocchi's personality and situation. There are times when the animation "downgraded" into making Bocchi looking like a couple of squares, and there are times where they over-animate her. And there are also times where they use 3D CGI and stop-motion. It's refreshing to see CloverWorks uses various styles of animation in BtR.
I think 86 also deserves to be on the list. Unlike most of the animes on this list, it was adapted solely from the novel with no manga and it attracted a large amount of audience which has a pretty positive image on the show. I would say its like violet evergarden where it slowly picks up its pace and has nice music and animation too.
@@I_L0ve_Toast but as you can see from online reviews, people who don’t like it are the minority (most prob 2 out of 10 people dislike it). Like any other show, there will be people who will not like the show but how many of them is the question. For 86, it was overwhelming positive that it’s better than some of the animes on the top 30 list.
I would argue that some of these should have made the list. Made in Abyss, A Place Further Than the Universe, March Comes in Like a Lion, Your Lie in April, and my sleeper pick Keep Your Hands off Eizouken!
I feel like the harder people push for Erased, the harder Joey pushes back against it. It's a great anime, not perfect, but it has higher highs for me than a lot of these other anime.
My top 5 snub of this list 1. Oregairu 2. March come in like a lion 3. Chihayafuru 4. Kanata no astra 5. Run with the wind And highschool DXD deserve horny mention 🤣
@@OK-mv4ih disagree, season 3 can't overshadowed the first 2 season like one punch man season 2 can't make it a bad show. They're both still deserve to be here
as a person who reads jjk manga, the story is very fucking good past where the anime in season one ends, at least in my personal opinion. I think it's going to have a very strong second season.
I arguably saw more people talk more about the manga than the anime, feels like everyone who mentions the anime in the comments already read the manga.
I was happy to see Mushoku Tensei so high up on the list. I am so tired of it not getting any mentions in the bigger anime Journals and Websites because of its controversial MC and the topics it brings up. I get that people are probably too afraid to give recognition to Mushoku because they fear controversies, but I think that the only ones who really hate the show are the ones who probably didn't watch it and don't realize that it's a story about becoming a better person, not just about MC being a degenerate
There is no use in talking to walls man, i gave up convincing such people. I just sit back and enjoy it without giving a fuck about what anyone else thinks coz its such a goddamn good show.
why do people value Joey's taste so much? Its not even coming from an objective point. Especially with Jujutsu Kaisen, his opinions really don't have much merit.
Same thing can be said about any other anime RUclipsr (Gigguk, CDawgVA, Mother’s Basement, etc). They’re no different than weebs you find on MyAnimeList or in real life. It’s time to stop valuing their garbage opinions as gospel because they happen to have video editing software.
Probably i wont be pretty popular but on defend of Demon Slayer and i admit i havent seen a lot of shonens, even though i really like the genre, but for me is the emotions that can awake in me. I went to the cinema to watch the new episode and i forgot they will screen the last two episode of Entertainment District arc. The way i bowled out my eyes on how Gyutaru and Ume went to the afterlife... And i even cried as i read the manga. Yeah its not that action packed but it makes you love and root for the characters.
TLDR: I think Joey will be proven incorrectly about Bocchi the Rock's impact on fans and the accolades that it deserves. I think Joey is underestimating BTR's success and phenomenon. BTR is not your typical CGDCT anime; not only it has likeable characters, but it has very relatable characters, in a time when social anxiety in the current generation seems to be at an all time high. Also, unlike a majority of CGDCT anime, BTR has genuine character growth and story progression that has real goals that sorely lacking in K-On (if we're comparing anime about girl rock bands) or Watamote or Komi-san (if we're comparing anime about characters with severe social anxiety). While I don't think this series will ever topple anime for the shounen demographic in the long run, but for just one season, it broke through against all of them, not unlike K-On, and I think that's remarkable. For what it's worth, even in the age of streaming video, BTR outsold Chainsaw Man in physical sales and its music album sold more than 100,000 copies in the first week! To me, that's not just remarkable, it shows that BTR has an immense impact on people. I don't doubt that anyone who earnestly watched BTR and relates to its characters and themes will remember this series fondly, just as much if not more so than when people watched K-On back in the day. Does it deserve #12 on the list? I think it's appropriately rated, if not, it's underrated. Borrowing Ryo Yamada's words, Bocchi the Rock may not connect with everyone, but those it does, it'll hit deeply. (As an aside, If I were to fix this list, I'd replace Kakegurui and Promised Neverland with Made in Abyss and March Comes in Like a Lion.)
Wow you took lot of effort to write this comment, first of all congratulations. But i think it's too soon for btr to come in top 20 anime list of the decade it just came out and there are other genuinely good anime they missed in the list like to your eternity, made in abyss , etc. And they are perfect for the spot. But i think maybe I deserve in top 50 list but definitely not top 30.its all my personal opinion don't take it serious.
I personally think Bocchi is deserving of a spot in top 20, it showed that the characters have issues and worked on them in a very tasteful way, comparing it to Beck which came out in the late 2004 (it's a great show don't get me wrong) but feels kind of wrong, Beck is a heavily character driven show, we watched it and enjoyed it cause it was at that time, i feel like today many people would just give up after a few episodes cause there is just so much other stuff that can give you the same enjoyment right from the first episode. Again this is a completely personal take.
If we're talking character driven shows with music themes, my personal favorite is Kids on the Slope. I'd say it should be on here, but it came out in 2012 though, so it just barely wouldn't be eligible for a list like this.
@@TocsTheWanderer yeah and that's my other point, Joey compared a lot of the shows on this list with shows from early 2000s or late 1900s and ofcourse they are great but it doesn't do justice to the list
I absolutely loved Summer Time Rendering, one of my favorites of the year It introduced a gripping story and never let go, it kept you invested through the whole thing with great story, animation, and one of the best written main characters in a while in my opinion, and the ending was very very satisfying Definitely deserves a spot in the top 30
I do mostly agree but for me the ending was not that satisfying. It had some pretty obvious logical errors (to me at least, makes me think that it maybe got changed at some point) that may or not may have an in lore explanation that I don't know of. But it stretched my immersion pretty thin. Buuut I still think it deserves a spot especially the first half was basically a perfect show for me.
So I don't get the active "no way" for bocchi, with the argument being "we don't know it's staying power", when we don't make the same argument for Summer Time Rendering or Chainsaw man? Idk, I am fine with you not liking it that much, or it not being not even close to top 30 for you, but I don't get why it being high for anyone else is such a scandalizing argument?
I completely disagree with the take on Bocchi the Rock. The premise that BtR fans haven't watched K-ON or Beck is really not a good argument, it's not our fault that you grew up with those shows and got bored of seeing their relevancy througout the decade, now putting down BtR for "not being a new idea". I like BtR BECAUSE it's better executed than K-ON, it's more gripping, has more development in it's cast, and the plot was written to lead to something that put the characters under time pressure. The rest of the takes were fine, some where really good, but with BtR I feel like you fell for the trolls overpraising it and don't give it as much credit as it should get. The real problem with this list is that we add all these shows in the past 10 years and make it a 2012-2022 list instead of taking a normal decade approach and having it span 2010 to 2020, without so much recency bias...
Wait how can you say that there are no JJK manga fans and that the hype is because of the animation? Bro people won't shut up about the Shibuya arc of the manga! How have you missed all that noise? People have been saying for the longest time that it's one of the best shonen arcs ever made and that the story gets WILD wild in the manga, that season 1 of the anime was just the tip of the iceberg, kinda like CSM. Apparently it gets really really good.
Heh funny Joey says that the JJK is carried by it's anime, but what he probably doesn't know is that it is a part of the Shounen Dark Trio, it being on the same level as CSM and Hell's paradise
If you actually read an interview of the author of Jujutsu Kaisen he turned out to be a massive Bleach fan to the extent he would copy Bleach characters for practice when he was young. And right when he got big with Jujutsu Kaisen he would literally have an interview with the Author of Bleach and have a talk at the speed of bullets of how much he liked Bleach.
the reason jjk doesnt manga fans is because they turned into anime fans. I read jjk way before the anime and it really was amazing. eserved animation in my opinion
30:17 Caught up on Vinland Saga right now and tbh, I think it is better than the first season. It took everything that the first season explored and is going in much more depth with those topics in a way that focuses purely on character. Stripped of any action, the series really puts us in the place of Thorfinn and how war and violence has affected him in a way that makes him one of my favorite characters in recent memory. Part of me wants them to stay on the farm forever, but i know that in this world, that's not gonna happen.
I very much agree with this... I think the series perfectly frames itself through the initial lesson that Thors wished he could teach to Thorfinn, which he couldn't pass on before he died. it's why a lot of shots are devoted to cutting back to Thors... he's always relevant. in his grief, Thorfinn turns to anger as a motivating force, but that anger is less about his love for Thors, and more about his hatred of Askeladd. violence isn't proof of love... it's something that frustrated people do to punish the world. this is how it becomes cyclical, and this is why it's hypocritical. if Thorfinn causes pain equal to what he's felt, then he is also forfeiting his right to peace. he can't ask to live well if he's still committed to sowing discontent with his own hands. the cycle of violence has to stop somewhere, and sometimes, you have to choose to stop it yourself. and that takes a lot more effort than letting yourself fall off the deep end into the endless search for retribution, which will never bring back the thing you're actually missing. the truth is, if you want to see something you love thrive in this world, you have to know how to create peace, and maintain it. additionally, if Thorfinn wants to prove that he cares about Thors, he would do so a lot more effectively by considering the man's perspective. it would be more meaningful to keep his legacy alive by embracing the philosophy that he thought was important. and that's what season 2 is all about.
Most surprising thing on this list. Is to hear that Joey is still watching anime.
He isn't lol
It seems that he doesnt finish them tho lol
No
hasn't this joke gotten old already?
@@SandeshShak yes it is. Joey already said that he still watches anime just not posting content about it. I hope they call out how stale these jokes are lol
It's a crime that Made in Abyss is not on this list, you rarely get an anime as original as that with unique concept and world design.
I was expecting Made in Abyss to be #1 when I saw AoT at #3. Kinda dumb that it's not on the list. They also forgot Overlord.
Thank god someone else said something! It's not a crime. It's a WAR CRIME! Wtf
Based
Nope
Yeah man it was a shoker when I watched it . Most anime are forgettable but MIA is unquie
Joey saying there are no jujutsu kaisen manga fans is just astounding to me
Can't even call him Josh the Manga Lad anymore...
Literally 🤣
it actually hurt me when he said that
Plus jjk manga sold a lot of volumes (about 70 millions according to wiki) so again,idk how he thinks there are no fans of the manga
@@MsAnimeFreak777 He said on a recent TT that One Piece was still carrying Shonen Jump sales, yeah he’s definitely not actually looked at sales anytime recently. Demon Slayer outsold One Piece by four times in 2020, and in 2021 Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, and My Hero Academia outsold it (also Attack on Titan, which is outside Shonen Jump).
I think I'd add March Comes in Like a Lion and Made in Abyss both need to be in this list.
Absolutely agree
March Comes in Like a Lion is so fuckin good
Based picks. March Comes in like a Lion is my favorite anime and Made in Abyss is in my top 10 easily. I'm surprised neither are listed considering how highly they're rated on most sites like Myanimelist or Anilist and just how almost universally praised/loved they are.
I remember dropping it when it first came out due to the slow pacing at the beginning. Maybe it's time I give it another try.
@@Nate-ec8ig Do give it a try because it's really good
Assassination Classroom LITERALLY made me want to become a teacher. While I did love the assassin-part, seeing how the students grew and their dynamic with Koro-sensei, that was THE SHIT!
One of the greatest things about that series was that it was constructed as a whole story with an endpoint in mind so it didn't meander around just because it could. That's one of the biggest differences between it and so many other shonen. The mangaka knew the story they wanted to tell.
GTO rip off done beautifully.. god that is within the decade :'P
@@tsfuko facts gto is in my top 5 easily
GTO made me want to become a teacher.
It's in my personal Top 10, but considering what it was up against, I'm just glad it managed to crack 20. AC reminded me why I loved my teachers more than my family: they saw me for me, not what they could get out of me. I hope your teaching career does the same for the kids who need that the most.
Assassination classroom just makes me feel nostalgic. It’s genuinely really good and made me actually cry (rare thing fr). All the characters, even background characters had some sort of depth
It managed to somehow develop every student of Class E while delivering a great ending. Not many series can pull that off.
Ik it’s been said to death but I fucking love the role reversal of this channel and the anime man channel 😂
I actually find JJK to have an extremely strong manga fan base. These people are on Reddit every day writing essays theory crafting about everything in the JJK manga. On top of that there are so many youtube channels that are cranking multi-hour long video essays explaining how the power system works and things of that nature. I didn't truly understand why so many fans where doing this until I caught up with the manga. The manga is amazing, and I highly recommend you catch up/start reading if you enjoyed the anime.
Facts
100%. Joey has no idea what he's talking about when he says that lol. It is always number 2 for monthly manga sales, only behind One Piece.
Yeah I think there isn't JJK manga fans in HIS circle bc that was straight up CAP. JJK manga is lit
We are talking about anime not manga here
@@utkarshsingh4048 listen to what Joey said during the JJK portion
I wouldn’t say that Jujutsu Kaisen is carried by animation
I have seen many people adore the manga source material almost to the same level as CSM
It’s just that the beginning(basically all of season 1) is very standard and safe
But thats why currently in the anime it is being carried by animation because it has not caught up to the source material. This ranking is based on anime so its not fair to take source material into account when some of the shows were original animes
And not even just the shibuya arc that made jjk, I feel like it was just the introduction into the new tone of jujutsu kaisen like reading chapter 212 and just all of the most recent chapters is crazy for how they’re progressing the story. Gege is really cooking for us
Joey definitely ain’t wrong tho because the vibe from the first season was a lot more standard like it took me until my 4th time watching it did I like it even
if you care too look for it , it does a have a lot of complexity, with character motivations and the more philosophical questions about the soul and such
The thing that I feel sets JJK apart from the other modern shonen is the action, particularly the choreography. So in a way it does rely on the animation. But that's like saying an action series is carried by the action. Like no shit.
After Gojo got sealed the manga got really bad imo. So many long explanation or plot point that go nowhere or end up with a plain bad reveal. The combats are overly explained like a bad version of hunter x hunter, maybe Gege idolized Togashi and tried to emulate his style but failed. I dont need a page full of text dedicated to explaining a random guys's power the same chapter hes getting defeated and never seen again. The combat also doesnt fit well in manga form, you get like 5 movements in 1 panel from 1 character and you dont get the intensity from it.
Words cannot describe how happy I am to see Space Dandy and Odd Taxi mentioned in this list.
Kotaku definitely WATCH anime. Those two series are such underrated gems and are massive favorites of mine.
Though I think Odd Taxi does get a lot of love. We just have to keep it in people's recommended list as time passes. I was thrilled Space Dandy made the list.
Some guy at Kotaku does* majority don't.
I was shocked to see Summertime Render on there, especially so high. No complaints though. It was my favourite anime of 2022, so I think it definitely deserves the spot, I might even put it higher. It’s shame that Disney locked it away for so long, which killed most of the hype around it.
I watched that show almost till the end and i dropped in like 15 episode,it was to much repetitive for me although i love Re:Zero,it was one of these animes that i though i would like but i didn't,also that plot twists are too obvious for me..
I watched it with my ex so I can't even rewatch it LMAO
I was shocked to see it on the list because the anime is pure garbage that's why. Is there any redeeming good qualities about the anime at all? I don't really think there is honestly, even if you want to say the mystery element of it is good, it's really not there was nothing well thought out or deeply planned, nothing really written that well for a mystery honestly. Especially when you have anime like Monster and Death note that already set the bar high, it's got a lot it has to live up to and it fails. When it comes to mystery kinda gotta use that big brain and write it more complex, because the best part of mystery anime is solving the mystery and it should feel like an intelligent anime that actually makes you think and use your brain but at the same time not be predictable.
@@GrowingDownUnder the fuck? The anime is beautiful you are high bro
@@chillshortvideos1669 same lmao dropped it at episode 12 got too boring
25:51 this is how you know Joey doesn’t engage or is aware of the animanga community at all, JJK’s manga fan base is massive. I can agree that s1 doesn’t stray too far from a standard shonen but it still has fantastically written and likeable characters with great fight scenes (in both the anime and the manga). And everything that happens in the manga afterwards is absolutely beloved by fans almost to the same level as the CSM manga. Seriously think he’s just mixing up Demon Slayer and JJK here because while Demon Slayer has it’s manga fans… the best parts of the series come from the anime and that’s always what everyone is talking about.
Saying demon slayer and jjk being the same is actual insult to jjk
@@Apostle_47 100%, Joey coming in with the classic trash taste by comparing Demon Slayer and JJK Together
JJK is poorly written garbage
@@AzuraPix you’re on acid
@@AzuraPix Wow what an argument, you sure got him there...
wans't jujutsu kaisen the best selling manga of 2021 and 2022? im pretty sure a lot of ppl are fans of the manga.
It's the first manga I've ever bought
As a manga reader of Jujutsu Kaisen I think that what’s to come will be great
Relative to newcomers to anime, or relative to people who've already seen and read a lot of shonen? Genuine question, since I can remember people saying similar things about MHA and other big shonen anime.
"Just wait for this arc, then it gets amazing!"
I read/watch what they recommend and am underwhelmed because it feels like many other shonen I've seen.
So maybe the better question is, is shibuya good relative to the shonen standard, or the book/manga/film/anime medium as a whole?
@@peacefulbystander847 I'd say with shounen for sure, at this point in the manga it doesn't even really feel like a shounen anymore. All that started with shibuya.
As for compared to anime/fiction as a whole. Not that groundbreaking imo, although the complexity of the plot and morality in the world gets pretty high tier with crazy twists. Defo top tier manga
@@Skaffabranca Alright, sounds reasonable. One issue I have when people give recommendations, at least with anime/manga, is that it feels inconsistent whether they're recommending it as a truly great piece of fiction or good relative to shonen or seinen or romance or etc.
It feels like they recommend it based off what appealed to them the most. And while that isn't bad, I feel when giving recommendations one should adopt a broader perspective since we don't all share the same priorities.
@@peacefulbystander847 Shibuya Incident is basically sort of a giant finale battle of the first half of JJK. What makes it good is that unlike most shounen's, the good guys get absolutely demolished and manage to achieve nothing. That's how it subverts classic shounen trope of Heroes winning in the big finale. Shibuya can be compared to Avengers Infinity War. Just helpless heroes watching as the bad guys cause massive destruction.
@@peacefulbystander847 what do you think of Chainsaw Man or Hell's Paradise? because those 2 with JJK are exactly the same about being a different shonen
Woah a video about anime on the second channel, unheard of!
I remember starting Golden Kamuy after Joey talking about how underrated it was in the main channel. the way they mixed comedy into serious scene was so brilliant.
I started it recently, but oh man is the CGI absolute trash. Kinda hard to overlook that but i'm watching for the story so far
Shocked at no fruits basket. It was even the #1 anime on my anime list for a hot second
Jjk: best selling manga 2022
Joey: have you heard of any jjk manga fans? No.
Yeah, this HAS to be a troll.
Edit: jjk is the only series except the big three that youtubers can legit live off talking only about it
Also, W commenters for calling him out on this
JJK is poorly written garbage😂
@@AzuraPix very original argument dude
@@Apostle_47 garbage
@@neoparmar2169 cope
I know a lot of ytbers that also just live off CSM
I think the reason why you don't hear anything from JJK's manga readers is that fact that people are being safe trying not to spoil people. I love the manga and anytime I would like to discuss it with people i rather not because of how good and fun it becomes. To keep others spoiler free is probably the main reason why you do not hear people talk about it if anything. Animation carrying it sure I can see the argument for the first season but from someone who is reading the manga, the first season is mostly set up for what season 2 is going to tackle.
On the topic of spoilers, I planned on watching Cyberpunk: Edgerunners at some point, but I've kinda been put off by all the spoilers I've gotten for it, and I barely even use social media. People just don't know how to keep their trap shut, and it's annoying.
@@TocsTheWanderer yeah if you have been spoiled about cyberpunk it's going to heavily nerf the enjoyment you would have had if has watched it without any knowledge. Many of the scenes rely on shock value, you can still try it though
well this didnt age well lmao.
@@zezanje1 it didn’t
@@Bass897 insert a gif of a cube with gojo "nah i'd win" planel as one of its sides falling onto a hard surface and rotating onto a side which has him decapitated laying onto the floor:
March comes in like a lion and Death Parade should've been there... I know that they were not as popular, but my man those were brilliant shows
And Land of the Lustrous as well.
@@Sukenus Yeah, I noticed it was missing, but I haven't watched it myself so I couldn't say. Death Parade is one of my personal favorites... wasn't sure when it came out.
And vivy
@@authorRisenfromash It came out in 2015, and Death Billiards came out in 2013
I don't know about Joey, but JJK manga fans are very huge, they basically always trending on Twitter when the new chapter comes out
Saying Bocchi isn't good because these other music anime exist and are also good is such a strange argument. Did it deserve to be so high? Most likely not, but I think it's a hard stance to take only 7 eps in.
Still, love hearing your opinion. Keep up the good work, dude!
I don't think it's weird, I've watched Bocchi twice now and I don't think there's a reason to think someone's opinion will change drastically as you go on to finish it, there really isn't a huge "bang" waiting at the end that will suddenly boost it up really high, Bocchi is more or less a consistent stable experience quality wise throughout.
And If Joey thinks there's better music animes out there It should not be weird that he finds it weird that it's so high in a top 30 of ALL TIME list.
I mean 7 episodes are pretty good to judge the show imo. first 8 episodes are the better part, the last 4 episodes are the most forgettable part about bocchi.
Bocchi is a pretty episodic show, rather than promising a futuristic plot or payoff it tries to deliver in small arcs, so 7 episodes are enough
@@r1ght_n0w I understand, I said I love hearing his opinion regardless. Just thought it was odd to compare its quality with two other music anime that didn't actually qualify for the list (it was top of the decade, not all time). Beck and K-On are also great, but I don't think the fact that they exist invalidates the quality of Bocchi. 😅
@@r1ght_n0w isn't it a top list of the decade?
Golden Kamuy got me into studying Ainu history and culture. Such a fantastic series.
Same Golden Kamuy is so awesome
Golden Kamuy is literally my favorite... no other anime does quite what Golden Kamuy does.❤
Vinland Saga, Yakosuku no neverland, Kaguya-Sama,Demon Slayer.... 2019 was such an huge year for anime.
Not that bad of a list, but in my opinion they really missed some of the best anime which came out in the last 10 years.
My own top 30 would probably look something like this -
30. Summer Time Rendering
29. Ranking of Kings
28. Barakamon
27. Bocchi the Rock!
26. One Punch Man
25. Houseki no Kuni
24. Your Lie in April
23. Hinamatsuri
22. Demon Slayer
21. KonoSuba
20. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
19. Beastars
18. Golden Kamuy
17. F/SN UBW
16. March comes in like a Lion
15. Chainsaw Man
14. Dorohedoro
13. Violet Evergarden
12. Jobless Reincarnation
11. Odd Taxi
10. Parasyte the Maxim
9. Vivy
8. Kaguya-sama
7. Saiki
6. Kill La Kill
5. Mob Psycho 100
4. Re:Zero
3. Vinland Saga
2. Made in Abyss
1. Attack on Titan
Wow, no JoJo's but I like the list still
Huge W for Parasyte and Vivy!!! would definitely add erased in here myself but i understand peoples criticisms of the end
@@SamTheGumMan117 If i added JoJo it would probably be somewhere around 7 or 6. But since technically the anime came out before this decade (before 2013) I excluded it from my list.
The same goes for Gintama. Sure there were a lot of seasons which released in the last 10 years, but I still can't but it in my list.
@togachan5081 Ok, I get that and I'd put it around there, too if not top 5
good list but 30 isn't enough to fit in all the amazing shows in the past decade T_T
No way he just said JJK has no manga readers... This guy is really on something
I think about this every time I see a top anime list, I think its genuinley impossible to make a tier list on best anime of all time or the last decade because its so subjective. Its so based on your personal taste, what was popular, recency bias, etc.
That's the point.
And yet I do think this feels like Kotaku’s list was made by mostly people who watch a ton of anime. In contrast, IGN’s recent top 25 anime (of all time, which is a bolder claim than merely ranking the last 10 years) felt like it was mostly made by people watching the most mainstream stuff with maybe one or two people trying to get some excellent non-mainstream stuff in there (nothing wrong with mainstream, but it does make lists predictable when the pattern becomes obvious). Even their solo shojo pick felt like a mainstream pick, Ouran was great, but it felt like it was there purely for being so well known in the 2000s, whereas other shojo like Nana or the new Fruits Basket would arguably be considered better.
I honestly think this top 30 is pretty valid. Granted, some of the rankings are questionable but I’d say it’s relatively very good. A few anime I think from the past decade deserve to be on this list. To your eternity, Fruits basket 2019, Ping pong the animation, devil man crybaby, and Made in abyss. Those are each respectively all top 20 somewhere in my opinion.
not having made in abyss feels like a crime
@@newbie4789 i concur
I'd personally put Space Dandy in my top 10, that show hit me in all the right places. the animation goes sooooo hard, it was like mob psycho levels before mob psycho
Same here
Underrated anime. I havent watched it in almost 10 years, but I remember how amazing it was.
How time flys...wow that came out ten years ago. I remembered seeing the commercials. Told my buddy he would probably really like this anime as well. Feels like only a few years ago. Not thaaat long ago. Fml. Good times rolled away to fast.
@@Earth2McKay ayo, shoutout to your bluntman and chronic profile pic lmao
Would you recommend Space Dandy sub or dub? I usually watch sub but people seem to recommend the dub more
Pretty nice list overall. Maybe you should give us your top 30 of all time (or something like that) for a future video?
Jjk was one of the only manga to keep up with ds in terms of sales😭Can’t wait for s2 of Jujutsu Kaisen to blow this dude away.
Wouldnt put jjk nor demon slayer in a top 30 of the decade, i did enjoy them, but both are basic as fuck.
@@jmm00702 don’t expect complexity from shonen jump
@@jmm00702 how are they basic lol wth stop jumping on the bandwagon cause its famous
@@Kevin-fj3ff theres literally 0 complexity to them, theyre tailored for 14 year olds to enjoy, no nuance in storytelling, characters are one dimensional as fuck and barely change nor get faced with any actual hard decision path, etc i can go on if u want but yeah. theyre basic as fuck shonen stories, built for mass appeal and nothing much else.
@@jmm00702 read the jujutsu manga
The jjk take was definitely one of the takes of all time
I hated volleyball before I watched haikyuu. Dunno why I decided to even check it out bc I was certain that I will drop it after episode 1 of S1. Well, that certain episode made me bawl my eyes out and I binge watched the whole season in two days. Now Haikyuu is still one of my fav series and I do not hate volleyball anymore like I used to (thanks to school P.E classes I hated the sport in the first place). So it's accurate that haikyuu changed at least my mind about a sport.
25:55 that's really cap 🧢 considering JJK ranks consistently TOP 10 in manga sales lol and ESPECIALLY since everybody knows the best JJK arcs are yet to come.
And I don't get the "it doesn't bring anything new to the table" argument either, like
what's wrong with having a great cast and amazing fight scenes/choreography? Does every new shonen have to reinvent the wheel or something
His manga comments were blatantly wrong, but anime comment wasn't. JJK S1 is very well done but its super safe and tbf to it, it is a very solid introduction to the series. But I absolutely hate how manga readers hyped it way too much both before and after the anime. It totally doesn't deserve to be in the list, since it is season fucking 1. Also didn't deserve to win anime of the year. Manga readers were super biased when it came to voting etc.
You´re wrong about JJK there are a lot of JJK Manga Fans including me it´ is selling more Manga Volumes than One Piece
That’s what I was saying
Pretty solid list. Would have personally included Made in Abyss, Ping pong the animation, Land Of The Lustrous, Death Parade, To your eternity, Devil Man Crybaby, Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju and March comes in like a lion.
Based
when did devilman crybaby come out??
also i ll put vivy in as well
@@jhalaksharma4695 January 2018
Haikyuu imo is the sport anime for this generation. If Captain Tsubasa inspires people to do soccer (Fernando Torres said that he waa inspired to dp soccer cuz he wached Capt Tsubasa when he was younger), Slam Dunk inspires people to do basketball (I've heard smth abt Slam Dunk actually made the sport popular in Japan), then Haikyuu is the one which inspires this generation to do volleyball. And this is coming from me who haven't even watch the anime nor read the manga.
I know Eyeshield 21 made people in Japan interested in American football
Joey's takes on JJK are just getting worse and worse. Mid? Sure, whatever, an opinion is an opinion.
But borderline slandering what Gege Akutami has been achieving with the manga ESPECIALLY in the last few chapters has been fucking excellent. His art is brilliant, the story is ramping up, the characters are being pushed to their breaking points, and Gojo hasn't even been in the series for the last hundred or so chapters. That's not even mentioning the Shibuya Incident or the Culling Games which are both absolutely fantastic battle royale arcs that go fucking wild, and that's in just the manga. Saying JJK is "heavily dependent" on the anime is just insulting to Akutami.
Like, I'm not mad he has a different opinion, Joey gets a rise out of telling people JJK is mid because it's funny, but the shit he's said here is just rude and disrespectful to Akutami and the manga fans that really adore the series.
Really. Someone had to say this. Gege Akutami is already someone I've come to respect so much ever since I read shibuya, this borderline slander is painful to watch
Bro just say he not a fan of JJK. You can clearly see it 🤣🤣.
Not that shocking. Each member of trash taste has one or more manga/anime that they irrationally hate for no reason
@@timisunder1404 There's a difference between not liking something and just outright insulting the person making it.
@@MiniatureRanni that's why I put irrationally hate.
It's really cool to see Space Dandy and Ass Class one of my favourite shonens of all time in there, also Joey, I think you'd enjoy the OPM manga a lot plus no Made in Abyss holy crap
Wooooow so true about made in abyss.
bro who shortens "assassination classroom" into keijo?
@@aname1190 This guy 😎
@@SamTheGumMan117 Nice profile pic my man, Einar is honestly the MVP of Vinland Saga.
Mob Psycho being number 1 warms my heart, it's such a beautifully crafted piece of art. I love it dearly. Shocked not to see Made In Abbys and Dororo!
Dont do us like that the JJK manga fans are just chilling living our best lives knowing that next season gonna go crazy. Also ranking of kings deserves its stop if not higher and Space dandy should of been higher
Like you said, this list isn't bad at all. I would've liked to see Made in Abyss on the list though
Ranking of Kings is easily in the Top 10, or even Top 5, for me. Genuinely an amazing show that I always recommend to people, and it made me want more from that world after the show ended, and I hope it gets a second season, just to build upon the characters and world.
it is getting a 10 episode season next week :D
I would disagree with jujutsu kaisen, I adore the manga and its such a captivating story. seeing a main character that feels very human in his emotions/reactions but ye great video!
It has a massive manga following, joey really has no idea what he was talking about there.
@@zap7737 Joey thinks bleach is better written than JJK. And he will stick to this no matter what . As a big bleach fan, its not even close . He surprisngly has a big blindspot when it comes to JJK.
@@edgaras1103 Jjk ain't that good bro. it's still so generic and characters r boring asl
@@OK-mv4ih it's the best modern shounen lol
Man I would've loved to see Girls Last Tour anime there, it's such a fantastic post-apocalyptic slice of life drama anime.
Shuumatsu Touring has been similarly enjoyable, though less feels so far. Another series I really enjoyed that felt similar but isn't really an apocalypse was Kino's Journey, would recommend.
"Who's talking about Yuri on Ice today" that's how you know Joey hasn't been in any anime communities in a WHILE lol
I absolutely love Bocchi the Rock. I rewatched it several times with my friends and I never get tired of watching it.
This is only my opinion, but I will remember this as years go by. They did an amazing job with the adaptation, how they portray social anxiety, amazing characters, voice actors, and the music is fantastic. And how it meant to me personally.
Hate that people keep comparing this to K-on . Imo it's nothing like it, I have tried watching K-on and couldn't stand it (didn't like the characters and art style). I went into Bocchi thinking I was going to drop it but ended up loving it
It's like k-on mixed with modern social anxiety that makes people relate but not for me didn't like both
@@ACViper It's like how people can't acknowledge the existence of Kakegurui without saying "Kaiji better lmao"
Anime fans actually judge a show on its own merits challenge (Impossible)
Yep. I despise "school" based animes, especially the high school girl anime genera. (Like for example, Beastars annoyed me because it was too school focused, and I was way more invested in the world outside of the school. I'm clearly a furry, but even the furry bait wasn't enough for me when they were focusing so much on dumb high school drama when it just felt pointless and wasted the world around it).
I thought I was gonna not really like Bocci too but... This one was different.
I suffer from severe social anxiety, and the way they handled it was incredible!! Not only in the execution but also in a way that gives people like me hope. I gave up a lot of my passions because of my social anxiety, and struggled in a lot of similar ways to Bocci. I couldn't help but cheer her on and watch her overcome her anxiety as the series progressed! I also love her friends too, learning to understand her and not treating her any different because of her anxiety (with the exception of giving her a bit of a push here and there). A show like this would have really helped me as a kid and I even find it helping me now even though I'm a grown adult.
Is the show absolutely perfect? Well... no. But I do think that this show has helped not only people who struggle with anxiety, but helps other people understand it more too who might have people in their life who struggle with it!
The thing with Bocchi that Joey didn’t mention for the series is the absolutely lightning in a bottle production, which I’d say is genuinely the best we’ve had from a TV series in the industry since Mob Psycho. Director, animators, seiyuus all being given their first chance in an anime and it all worked so well. FFS Bocchi’s VA did that iconic scream without editing, and only recently started playing the electric guitar
as someone who has ONLY read the jjk manga not watched the anime, and have also read a lot of shounen, I dont think you are giving it the credit it deserves. It is a very fun action series, and the Culling Game Arc where im currently at is fantastic. Also my favourite part of the manga is how short the fights are, they punch it out quickly so we can go back to lore lol.
Re:ZEro is Isekai Anime done right, in my opinion. Just as Joey said, Subaru isn't OP, he's in fact a normal human, he's got to rely on others to protect him if he's in a fight as he can only do so much himself, which sometimes turns out to be just the right amount. He doesn't get isekaied into a new world only to instantly become 10 times stronger than even the strongest person alive in that world, or any such dumb shit like that, he's basically an example of what it would look like if any average joe had been plucked out from their world and placed in another world with no idea what is going on, nothing to their name, and no power to hide behind if things get tough. And all that's why I liked it so much even though I wasn't ever a big fan of the trope of do-overs and such.
Thoughts on JJK: Jujutsu Kaisen is one of the highest selling manga in Japan and overseas. Saying "no one" reads it and that the animation makes it great shows that you do just see it as another shonen. As someone who doesn't enjoy traditional battle shonen it is the only traditional series like that I have ever gotten into and really enjoyed. I read it and watch it and it's strength is the depth of it's characters and how they offer different perspectives on the world. Things I Think Belong On The List That Aren't: Made in Abyss, Girl's Last Tour, Yuru Camp, Sonny Boy, and FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood. I'm sure there are more but those are the ones that stood out to me as things that were deserving and lacking. The list is more deverse than I expected but still leaned too heavily toward action and adventure with little to no slice-of-life or romance.
I don’t understand how someone who doesn’t enjoy shonen can enjoy JJK.
FMAB started airing on 2009, and the manga is from 01. The list is presumably about works from 2013-2023
@@thomasffrench3639 I do like shonen but I don’t tend to like ones focused mostly on battle unless they are something like Bakuman where the “battle” isn’t a physical brawl. I just love the characters in JJK a lot.
@@sefatsilverlake3816 awww, ok my husband thought it was older but I thought it was within the last ten years… I only watched it recently didn’t realize I was that behind. Lol
@@authorRisenfromash Yeah, if not I'd totally put it top 5, probably #1 or #2
tbh, Golden Kamuy is the biggest W just to see it included on this list. literally nobody on youtube talks about this anime, and I feel like there's SO MUCH that could be said in terms of analysis... it's honestly criminally under-mentioned. like, I'm not even calling it "underrated" because everyone who has actually watched it seems to love it, in my experience. it's just that it never really took off and got that hype train momentum.
seriously tho, ask me about Golden Kamuy, I can talk about it extensively.
You and Joey's take on Golden Kamuy have made me decide to watch it :)
@@solittle272 oh, you are about to have such a fun time! I hope you like it, it's very very weird, but all together, I think it does everything right. ^_^
Ranking of Kings share the same problem with Erased. The first half was phenomenal and really gets you invested in the story. But then in the second half it starts to drag itself through the mud and it starts to feel like a "cartoon" as they remove all the risks and everyone just became friends in the end.
Vivy: FLuorite Eyes Song not being on this list is a crime. Vivy is fantastic and easily deserves to be in the top 30 of the last decade
Very true. I think it's because it was forgotten by some. But those who love it won't forget it.
What a W
TRUE I cried and stared in awe at it the same amount as Violet Evergarden.
😅had to respectfully disagree...Characters are way too tropey
Bro, its about time you make top anime list and let someone review it! Love the videos by the way, thanks for anime related video YOOOHOOO
Was starting to worry Mob wasn't on the list then I realized how based the list maker was
But they still forgot Made in Abyss.
@@Sukenus dude.... it's like there are 100s of top 30 shows out there, but u have only 30 positions to fill.
@@Sukenus They didn't forget it. They just didn't like it enough to put it in their top 30.
Summertime Rendering is so good, deserves more recognition !!
I personally think Bocchi will last in terms of relevancy. I understand that the fandom is pretty insane, but I also think Bocchi is truly a masterpiece. I think Bocchi might have already become a modern classic. I don't think it's the best of the decade or anything, but I would have absolutely put it on this list.
Surprising enough a lot of people still undersell the adaptation aspect of it, people act like Bocchi is popular because "relatable fr fr" when a lot of credit goes for the amazing Director and Animators showing such creativity in that show, while putting in a top 30 of decade might be hard to argue, it's easily one of the few adaptations that is better than the manga in every single aspect and there's shows that I gave 9 or a 10 that I don't think that was something above the source material.
I respectfully disagree with this. I can't see how it is a masterpiece or a modern classic yet, as there were nothing in it that made it stand out in a significant way, or at least I haven't yet had anyone describe why it is supposed to garner that amount of praise. To me they overplayed Bocchi's social anxiety from it being cute and funny into it being dull and transparent.
Is it the character arc and the coming-of-age narrative bits that is the most significant part that people are appreciating about this anime, or am I missing something here? It's a good anime for sure, but nothing above what we have seen so far in my oppinion.
@@ZahhibbDev "there were nothing in it that made it stand out in a significant way" I don't know what you on about but Bocchi's creative and insane animation and direction alone makes it stand out if you ask me. Like it had claymation, bocchi's game of life sequence, 3d rendered bocchi and literal recording of real life world and all the over the top art styles just for a specific gags, they even went 4:3 aspect ratio for referencing old animes. And obviously the music. They released an album with literally 14 songs and they are all bangers. The characters are also great and have great chemistry with each other and play a huge role to how good this series is. And also the voice acting, Two of the main characters being relatively new absolutely killed it and made it amazing. There's also actual growth and development to bocchi as a character as well with her social anxiety. If all of this doesn't make it a modern masterpiece then I don't know what will.
@@ZahhibbDev It had cool and creative animation with a good director. It also truly elevated the source material in almost every way, which I've never seen before.
Bocchi the Rock is also in competition with the BanG Dream franchise now, and oh yeah Bang dream with the exception season 1 of the anime is a true masterpiece series.
25:52
"Have you heard of any Jujutsu Kaisen manga fans"
You know Joey is out of the loop from anime and manga when he said sht like this.
People literally won't shut up about Shibuya arc.
Joey really out here living in a world where he hasn't heard about Jujutsu Kaisen manga fans. Didn't think it was possible. Read it for the love of god.
Considering a good music based anime floats up about every 3-5 years I’m pretty sure that as long as it rides the wave with another season or 2 Bocchi will last and be remembered.
I think my personal list would go:
1. Tale of the Princess Kaguya
2. Violet Evergarden
3. Made in Abyss
4. A Silent Voice
5. Your Name
6. Assassination Classroom
7. Attack on Titan
8. March Came in like a lion
9. Maquia
10. Promised Neverland (just season 1)
11. Kaguya-sama Love is War
12. Parasite
13. Haikyuu
14. Mob Psycho 100
15. Madoka Magica
16. Chainsaw Man
17. Promare
18. Death Parade
19. Re:Zero
20. Fruits Basket
21. Snow White with Red Hair
22. Yona of the Dawn
23. Odd taxi
24. Ranking of Kings
25. To Your Eternity
26. A Place Further than the Universe
27. One Punch Man
28. No Game No Life
29. Spy x Family
30. Tamako Market
Mob psycho 100 was a masterpiece, the ending was so amazing
I like the Jujutsu Kaisen manga
Oh man Joey definetly read the One Punch Man manga. Its insanee af 🔥🔥🔥 If it gets animated by Mappa once again itll be better then season 1 for sure imo
i feel like joeys takes are always super oldschool, i cant tell if its him looking back when the shows where good or not. but ive gone out of my way to watch a lot of older shows hes talked about and they just dont live up to what he says. sure they are good but i think a lot of his opinion is "i liked it when i was young so it has to still be the best" and its also weird for him to comment on animation in newer shows then turn right around and say some older shows are better when comparably the older shows are gonna have worse animation just do to the constraints at the time. to me its similar to what jacksepticeye said "you dont actually think my older content was better, you just have better memory's of where you were when you watched my content back then"
20:47 never seen Beck, but as someone who has seen and likes both K-On and Bocchi the rock, I'd choose BtR over K-On, musically speaking. K-On has bangers, but its music is a bit too poppy and bubbly for my taste. I think the music in BtR feels more "grounded" because it's more leaned toward alternative rock (despite I don't really listen to that genre a lot, but I can enjoy it sometimes). Another thing I like about BtR is the animation, it's very creative when it comes to portraying Bocchi's personality and situation. There are times when the animation "downgraded" into making Bocchi looking like a couple of squares, and there are times where they over-animate her. And there are also times where they use 3D CGI and stop-motion. It's refreshing to see CloverWorks uses various styles of animation in BtR.
I think 86 also deserves to be on the list. Unlike most of the animes on this list, it was adapted solely from the novel with no manga and it attracted a large amount of audience which has a pretty positive image on the show. I would say its like violet evergarden where it slowly picks up its pace and has nice music and animation too.
Pretty weird that 86 is now pretty much known in the anime community but receives no recognition.
Idk I couldn't get into it tbh I also know a few other ppl who couldn't it was too uninteresting or at least for me
Right??? It's definitly in the top 10-15 for me. An absolute Masterpiece !!!
@@I_L0ve_Toast but as you can see from online reviews, people who don’t like it are the minority (most prob 2 out of 10 people dislike it). Like any other show, there will be people who will not like the show but how many of them is the question. For 86, it was overwhelming positive that it’s better than some of the animes on the top 30 list.
Im shocked at the lack of its presence in anime awards
I would argue that some of these should have made the list. Made in Abyss, A Place Further Than the Universe, March Comes in Like a Lion, Your Lie in April, and my sleeper pick Keep Your Hands off Eizouken!
Summer Time Rendering is so fucking good. I think Garnt said it was what he wanted from Erased, a mystery action show that delivered with its ending
Woah glad Joey mentioned Uchouten Kazoku, almost forgot that show existed. And I loved the first run of Hataraku Maou-sama.
You're Lie in April and Parasyte: The Maxim would be a great additions as well!
I feel like the harder people push for Erased, the harder Joey pushes back against it. It's a great anime, not perfect, but it has higher highs for me than a lot of these other anime.
My top 5 snub of this list
1. Oregairu
2. March come in like a lion
3. Chihayafuru
4. Kanata no astra
5. Run with the wind
And highschool DXD deserve horny mention 🤣
Finally!!!!! Someone who watches kanata and enjoyed it, its my top 5 anime of all time
oregairu defo not that third season dragged
@@OK-mv4ih disagree, season 3 can't overshadowed the first 2 season like one punch man season 2 can't make it a bad show. They're both still deserve to be here
As much as I love Chihayafuru, I gave season 3 a 10, I'm not sure it would count as season 1 was 2011 IIRC.
Based taste
as a person who reads jjk manga, the story is very fucking good past where the anime in season one ends, at least in my personal opinion. I think it's going to have a very strong second season.
'Have you heard of any JJK manga fans'
Dude, I've heard plenty - like seriously, a fuckton. What on earth are you on about?
I arguably saw more people talk more about the manga than the anime, feels like everyone who mentions the anime in the comments already read the manga.
@@ShotterGames Fr, the number of people you see everywhere hyping up Shibuya is unreal.
I'm going to shout out Dorohedoro as well, that was one of my favorite anime of all time
I was happy to see Mushoku Tensei so high up on the list. I am so tired of it not getting any mentions in the bigger anime Journals and Websites because of its controversial MC and the topics it brings up. I get that people are probably too afraid to give recognition to Mushoku because they fear controversies, but I think that the only ones who really hate the show are the ones who probably didn't watch it and don't realize that it's a story about becoming a better person, not just about MC being a degenerate
There is no use in talking to walls man, i gave up convincing such people. I just sit back and enjoy it without giving a fuck about what anyone else thinks coz its such a goddamn good show.
but like why can't there just not be multiple mega pervs who sexualize children though, like cmon, everything else is obviously great
I'm so glad it's way above Re:Zero, I'm tired of seeing Re:Zero be so overhyped when MT is a so much better isekai on every aspect.
@@AJ_91 based
Personally prefer Re:Zero over the two but it definitely deserves to be up there.
Joey will change his opinion on Bocchi once he hears that cover of AKFG at end of EP 12 😆
why do people value Joey's taste so much? Its not even coming from an objective point. Especially with Jujutsu Kaisen, his opinions really don't have much merit.
Idk i geuss cause hes called TheAnimeMan lol. None the less people shouldnt be taking other peoples opinions on animes so seriously 😅
Same thing can be said about any other anime RUclipsr (Gigguk, CDawgVA, Mother’s Basement, etc).
They’re no different than weebs you find on MyAnimeList or in real life.
It’s time to stop valuing their garbage opinions as gospel because they happen to have video editing software.
Of course they don't, you're right. But, it's a public platform, naturally people are going to challenge you're opinion regardless.
@@pgaribay14 mother's basement is the most pretentious. Dude thinks every good shonen is a deconstruction
Probably i wont be pretty popular but on defend of Demon Slayer and i admit i havent seen a lot of shonens, even though i really like the genre, but for me is the emotions that can awake in me. I went to the cinema to watch the new episode and i forgot they will screen the last two episode of Entertainment District arc. The way i bowled out my eyes on how Gyutaru and Ume went to the afterlife... And i even cried as i read the manga. Yeah its not that action packed but it makes you love and root for the characters.
I 100% agree.
this exactly!!!!
TLDR: I think Joey will be proven incorrectly about Bocchi the Rock's impact on fans and the accolades that it deserves.
I think Joey is underestimating BTR's success and phenomenon. BTR is not your typical CGDCT anime; not only it has likeable characters, but it has very relatable characters, in a time when social anxiety in the current generation seems to be at an all time high. Also, unlike a majority of CGDCT anime, BTR has genuine character growth and story progression that has real goals that sorely lacking in K-On (if we're comparing anime about girl rock bands) or Watamote or Komi-san (if we're comparing anime about characters with severe social anxiety).
While I don't think this series will ever topple anime for the shounen demographic in the long run, but for just one season, it broke through against all of them, not unlike K-On, and I think that's remarkable. For what it's worth, even in the age of streaming video, BTR outsold Chainsaw Man in physical sales and its music album sold more than 100,000 copies in the first week! To me, that's not just remarkable, it shows that BTR has an immense impact on people.
I don't doubt that anyone who earnestly watched BTR and relates to its characters and themes will remember this series fondly, just as much if not more so than when people watched K-On back in the day. Does it deserve #12 on the list? I think it's appropriately rated, if not, it's underrated. Borrowing Ryo Yamada's words, Bocchi the Rock may not connect with everyone, but those it does, it'll hit deeply.
(As an aside, If I were to fix this list, I'd replace Kakegurui and Promised Neverland with Made in Abyss and March Comes in Like a Lion.)
Wow you took lot of effort to write this comment, first of all congratulations. But i think it's too soon for btr to come in top 20 anime list of the decade it just came out and there are other genuinely good anime they missed in the list like to your eternity, made in abyss , etc. And they are perfect for the spot. But i think maybe I deserve in top 50 list but definitely not top 30.its all my personal opinion don't take it serious.
>JJK has no manga fans
>highest selling manga for the past 2 years
????
I personally think Bocchi is deserving of a spot in top 20, it showed that the characters have issues and worked on them in a very tasteful way, comparing it to Beck which came out in the late 2004 (it's a great show don't get me wrong) but feels kind of wrong, Beck is a heavily character driven show, we watched it and enjoyed it cause it was at that time, i feel like today many people would just give up after a few episodes cause there is just so much other stuff that can give you the same enjoyment right from the first episode. Again this is a completely personal take.
If we're talking character driven shows with music themes, my personal favorite is Kids on the Slope. I'd say it should be on here, but it came out in 2012 though, so it just barely wouldn't be eligible for a list like this.
@@TocsTheWanderer yeah and that's my other point, Joey compared a lot of the shows on this list with shows from early 2000s or late 1900s and ofcourse they are great but it doesn't do justice to the list
I absolutely loved Summer Time Rendering, one of my favorites of the year
It introduced a gripping story and never let go, it kept you invested through the whole thing with great story, animation, and one of the best written main characters in a while in my opinion, and the ending was very very satisfying
Definitely deserves a spot in the top 30
Every episode French kiss👌
I do mostly agree but for me the ending was not that satisfying. It had some pretty obvious logical errors (to me at least, makes me think that it maybe got changed at some point) that may or not may have an in lore explanation that I don't know of. But it stretched my immersion pretty thin. Buuut I still think it deserves a spot especially the first half was basically a perfect show for me.
So I don't get the active "no way" for bocchi, with the argument being "we don't know it's staying power", when we don't make the same argument for Summer Time Rendering or Chainsaw man? Idk, I am fine with you not liking it that much, or it not being not even close to top 30 for you, but I don't get why it being high for anyone else is such a scandalizing argument?
I mean the CSM manga has staying power, but we don’t know if the anime will yet.
“Do you know any jujutsu kaisen manga fans?”
We’ll of course I know them. They are me.
I completely disagree with the take on Bocchi the Rock. The premise that BtR fans haven't watched K-ON or Beck is really not a good argument, it's not our fault that you grew up with those shows and got bored of seeing their relevancy througout the decade, now putting down BtR for "not being a new idea". I like BtR BECAUSE it's better executed than K-ON, it's more gripping, has more development in it's cast, and the plot was written to lead to something that put the characters under time pressure. The rest of the takes were fine, some where really good, but with BtR I feel like you fell for the trolls overpraising it and don't give it as much credit as it should get.
The real problem with this list is that we add all these shows in the past 10 years and make it a 2012-2022 list instead of taking a normal decade approach and having it span 2010 to 2020, without so much recency bias...
Wait how can you say that there are no JJK manga fans and that the hype is because of the animation? Bro people won't shut up about the Shibuya arc of the manga! How have you missed all that noise? People have been saying for the longest time that it's one of the best shonen arcs ever made and that the story gets WILD wild in the manga, that season 1 of the anime was just the tip of the iceberg, kinda like CSM. Apparently it gets really really good.
He just called demon slayer a fantasy. I am getting ptsd from the anime awards. Oh my god save me
Garnt would be rolling right now if he watched this video 😂
Demons are grounded in reality, I agree.
@@thomasffrench3639 glad we're on the same page
I know this isn’t related but does anyone know where he got the pendant chain I’m been searching everywheree?
Heh funny Joey says that the JJK is carried by it's anime, but what he probably doesn't know is that it is a part of the Shounen Dark Trio, it being on the same level as CSM and Hell's paradise
TALK TO EM 👏
It started the trend of dark shonen. His precious CSM was literally influenced by JJK
I can't wait for Joey to switch up on JJK once the Sibuya arc finishes
If you actually read an interview of the author of Jujutsu Kaisen he turned out to be a massive Bleach fan to the extent he would copy Bleach characters for practice when he was young. And right when he got big with Jujutsu Kaisen he would literally have an interview with the Author of Bleach and have a talk at the speed of bullets of how much he liked Bleach.
That's wholesome
the reason jjk doesnt manga fans is because they turned into anime fans. I read jjk way before the anime and it really was amazing. eserved animation in my opinion
I didn't expect Summertime Render but I really loved it, well deserved for me
Am sorry Joey I was distracted by your very cultured wallpapers in the background xD.
30:17 Caught up on Vinland Saga right now and tbh, I think it is better than the first season. It took everything that the first season explored and is going in much more depth with those topics in a way that focuses purely on character. Stripped of any action, the series really puts us in the place of Thorfinn and how war and violence has affected him in a way that makes him one of my favorite characters in recent memory. Part of me wants them to stay on the farm forever, but i know that in this world, that's not gonna happen.
I very much agree with this... I think the series perfectly frames itself through the initial lesson that Thors wished he could teach to Thorfinn, which he couldn't pass on before he died. it's why a lot of shots are devoted to cutting back to Thors... he's always relevant.
in his grief, Thorfinn turns to anger as a motivating force, but that anger is less about his love for Thors, and more about his hatred of Askeladd. violence isn't proof of love... it's something that frustrated people do to punish the world. this is how it becomes cyclical, and this is why it's hypocritical. if Thorfinn causes pain equal to what he's felt, then he is also forfeiting his right to peace. he can't ask to live well if he's still committed to sowing discontent with his own hands. the cycle of violence has to stop somewhere, and sometimes, you have to choose to stop it yourself. and that takes a lot more effort than letting yourself fall off the deep end into the endless search for retribution, which will never bring back the thing you're actually missing. the truth is, if you want to see something you love thrive in this world, you have to know how to create peace, and maintain it. additionally, if Thorfinn wants to prove that he cares about Thors, he would do so a lot more effectively by considering the man's perspective. it would be more meaningful to keep his legacy alive by embracing the philosophy that he thought was important. and that's what season 2 is all about.
AOT at #3
My day is ruined.....
Wait Kaguya Sama at #2
My day is blessed!!!!
I’m currently reading the JJK manga weekly and with how the mangas direction is going to I think I’ll call myself a JJK manga fan
The manga rn is cooking so much with Gege making major moves
Hell yeah
JJK is poorly written garbage almost as bad as SAO
@@AzuraPix you're just spamming this comment and it's hilarious considering you have pokemon in your name 🤣
@@AzuraPix bro get out of your mothers basement and touch some grass
Criminal lack of Hibike Euphonium on this list, easily one of the best music anime ever made