Am I addicted to adding quickshifters to old bikes? Yes. Thanks to Healtech for still making bits like these for older bikes, I really do love companies that don't only focus on bikes born in the last 5 years :)
Sorry you're having the problem that @TheGorillaBiker can't answer. I'd remove the kit you bought, sell it on eBay, and learn to short shift a dogbox transmission. You'll get the hang of it. Just don't be a whimp like the guy who made this video. He obviously struggles with low T. It's not his fault. He just hasn't seen his doctor yet. You, on the other hand, own a machine that will let you blip your throttle and change gears without using the clutch. The force is with you. Let's all cunt punch "The broke, inexperienced, gorilla biker.'
I'm on my second falco and they both came with after market exhausts. I used the OE just to get the annual ITV (MOT} check and couldn't imagine riding the sewing machine the bike becomes with them on. Part of this models charm for me is it's soundtrack. Go for it!
Interesting as I've got a gen 1 tuono which is basically the same thing, I was looking at this exact kit and you've made my mind up watching this install as it looks simple enough 👌 good job bud.
I've had these on all sorts of bikes and found that sometimes, when mounted on the shift bolt, tightening to 7nm can reduce the sensor sensitivity. If it does, you can get away with the pinch bolt being a little looser, and lock-wire it for peace of mind. Also I've had the sensor split and fail twice on a KTM even when torqued correctly (although they are a slightly different method of fitting) and does illustrate that they don't like being particularly tight. Never had problems fitting them on the push rod though. Sometimes you need to adjust the shift sensitivity and duration to get them slick, but they are a great piece of kit when working properly. Good choice.
I actually didn't in the end as the effort 7Nm was taking made me nervous so it's a little looser, but working fine. Lock wire is a good shout! Oh right, I'll keep an eye for that, did they replace it under warranty when it failed or what was the story there? I'm glad I didn't push it to the 7Nm so! Yeah the push rod would be grand to swap to, the bolt was just easy as so I went with the lazy option. Had it out for a very quick spin today and actually seems very good out of the box, only a little more time will tell me if I need to fine tune anything :) Glad they do work well tho!
@@TheGorillaBiker No they didn’t replace the sensor although it was more than a year old. They said they were looking at improving the fitment on the ktm. They’re about £50 each to replace hence my cautionary note. Currently have one on a multidtrada 950 fitted the same as yours and had no problem in two years so far. I can’t fit it on the shift rod on mine because the rod is a pull rod not a push rod so it wouldn’t work. Glad yours is working fine. 👍
hey there GB, my problem is knowing when to stop spending money on these things, i think there has to be a cut off point as to where you can over invest and you actually lose money. i think a good freshen up of the suspension is usually what i go for first and then anything else that needs doing after that, have to prioritize what needs doing first though, another good vid mate, keep up the good work
Ah yeah I think it's easy really, it's why I haven't put any flash bits on the CBF, I know I'll swap that at some stage. The other bikes I know I'm keeping so the cost is a lot yes bit I'll benefit so it's ok in the long run :) Yeah it's why exhausts are on the longest finger. Don't need them. Suspension next and it's done, I'll just enjoy it for a few years :) Thanks!
Yeah I've the speedohealer on the gsxr and have the thunder box ready to go for the CBF, so far very happy 😁 Glad to hear someone else has tried them out :) Thanks bud!
They're actually on the cheaper side of the QS's too, but definitely a lot of money! The cheapest I could get really was the Vector one that I have on the GSXR, but that's all cut to fit rather than plug & play so I'm much happier to spend an extra 50 euro and get this :)
Hey bud. Good vid. I have had 2 falcos in the past, love my Aprilia's. Your vids on these give me great memories. Might just have to get another one. Cheers from Australia.
Thank ye sir, can't really take any credit tho as its just a neat loom :) Ah the Griso would be class with one :) could give it a go :) Yeah any modern bikes especially I was buying would have to have one.
From what I gather, Healtech are a great company.... this reminds me that I really need to install my speedohealer to the Gixer! I've never used a quickshifter, am still undecided if I want one for my Aprilia, the Aprilia one is plug and play, so might treat myself towards the end of summer if I have any money.
Well they'll soon be on 3 of my bikes :D Speedohealer on the GSXR which is still working perfect, I must edit that video actually :D You do need to and should :D Doitdoitdoit :) Ah, the issue is once you use them you'll want them forever. Got to give the Aprilia a good test yesterday and I have to say the QS is smooth as silk. Works fantastic. I would wonder on how much you'd use it on the Tuareg tho, the GSXR would definitely like one :P
@@TheGorillaBiker on my Beta I hardly ever use the clutch for both up and down shifts coz on dirt bikes you can, so it could be useful in the dirt, but am not sure as I can ride the 660 in second gear faster than I generally ride on the trails
So fitted one to my Mille. I have set the range of rpm 8k to 10.5k so you can still down blip and it doesn’t cut the revs when you touch the lever, which is really annoying. Cut time is at 85ms and delay at 25 upped the delay to that from 15 made it a bit smoother. I only use it when going flat out as it can be a little bit inconsistent some smooth some not so smooth low down but all good when riding fast as I’m sure it’s intended to be used when going near to red line. If anybody else has some sweet settings be good to hear!
I had mine set from 5.5k up I think in the end and it worked fine, a bit lumpy too low down but still worked fine. Cut time on the down shift? I never tried that to be honest so am no use there. I only use it for upshifts. I was using a 90ms cut time and the default delay, I never changed that one as it worked fine for me. Sorry I can't be of more help!
@@TheGorillaBiker I don’t use it for down shifts either was just saying above that it will still cut the revs on downshift because of the sensor that’s why I had the lower limit revs set so high as you wouldn’t be changing down much and rev matching over 8k often so most of the time it won’t cut the fuel. But will still cut changing up above 8k 👍🏻hope this makes sense and thanks for the reply
I've been contemplating a quickshifter for a while due to a fused right wrist and I'm just picking up a falco in a few days. Very informative thanks alot 👍
Mmm interesting GB would I have a quick shifter ! probably not it certainly is a slick system you fitted on the Falco, but fer me if ain't already there I wouldn't add it . I only say that in this case because I have this feeling that the gearbox is not made to accommodate this stuff , and I know that has absolutely no reasoning behind it but that's me fer ya . On my XJR it's standard silencers only because I have not seen a system I like the look of . They are all cans and they don't suite that bike (in my opinion) . The magna will have non standard silencers and complete system eventually . It will also have a custom paint job too eventually but as you well know these things ain't cheap but we gotta do em right : D) good one mate well done : )
A lot of people have that concern but it's less harsh than say clutchless shifting, which is fine. Will it wear the gearbox slightly faster? Probably, but that's ok to me. It's hard to find ones that look nice in fairness, I'd like a factory look but better performance. Haha can't wait to see it all :)
Fantastic Video as always! A suggestion would be to change all indicators to some more modern smaller ones, and I’ve put some GPR cans on mine and it sounds fantastic! Love you videos please keep em coming 😃
Thanks bud :) Ah I couldn't, I really like the look of the stock indicators, it's rare I find moderny ones that I think suit older bikes. Maybe one day tho! :D I will certainly try to :)
If I was still racing I might try a quickshifter, but for me part of the fun is seeking to attain gearchange perfection... I have to say the wires seem very delicate as they are. Will you wrap or bundle them? The one from the shift mechanism itself looks particularly vulnerable to boots. Who knows what I might do if I had some money . . . 🤔 Then I think I'd be better off putting money aside for a different bike that wouldn't need the mods I am thinking about .... Good clear video again. Well done 👍
Ah you need to try one at some point on the road, it's such a satisfying feeling just banging up through the gears :D Plus it'll likely get a stint on the track for a laugh so it'll be used :) There's actually pretty thick insulation on them to be fair to them, and I don't have enough length to wrap them up. That cable from the shifter has since been migrated behind the sprocket cover and tied to the clutch line away from the sprocket, I couldn't leave it there. Haha yeah I should really just sell them all and buy a v4 tuono with all the extras if I had any sense. But I don't :P Thanks Stephen :)
Hey there GB, can I ask what the Fireblade sidestand mod is like? I heard that it makes the bike stand up more and not lean over so much, which I could imagine is not really a positive thing?
So far it seems more stable than the stock, but the bike definitely stands up fairly straight which doesn't delight me. Half thinking of making one altogether and seeing how that goes, I'd much rather more of a lean on it.
@@TheGorillaBiker Thanks GB, appreciate it! That's what I feared about the Fireblade stand, think I'll stick with the original for the time being, then.
@@andrewuk184 no hassle at all, I do these tests so others can not be as poor as me 😂😂 Yeah you're better off. It's not the most stable either but I'd rather an upgrade that fixes it.
I have the same one on my gsxr 600 srad, still finding it a little finicky to get it working properly (actually didn’t engage properly on one shift and snapped the drive chain)
It did take me a while to get it nicely balanced but it never felt like it was doing anything bad. That's a very bad result, how the hell did it do that?!
Hi, question. In the beginning of your installation the white, read and green cable are installed at the right side. At your final check they are at the left side? Or it doesnt matter at which side they are? Like to hear from you. Grz Jeroen.
It doesn't matter, from memory I just swapped them as it was the neatest way for me to route them that wouldn't interfere with anything going back on. Just make sure they're not going to be pinched and you'll be good
Haha it does and has :P Definitely not the Magna, it's one that it actually wouldn't add to I don't think :) If Splat had been less camera shy he'd also have gotten the pause :P
@@vuongtran1435 I assumed you'd meant downshifting using the blip function on the qs. Depends on the situation. Never had an issue when I did rev match.
@@TheGorillaBiker oh no 😅 i meant normal downshift with rematch without using the function of the quickshift 😊 but very good to hear that you didnt have issue with downshifting 👍
If only you was local bud I’d be asking you to pop round. I have no confidence in messing with the bike. I leave that to people who know what they are doing..
Haha I'd happily try help :) Ah there's only one way to learn it too, once you have a back up when you break something, cus you will break something :D
Am I addicted to adding quickshifters to old bikes? Yes. Thanks to Healtech for still making bits like these for older bikes, I really do love companies that don't only focus on bikes born in the last 5 years :)
I just installed on my 2010 Tuono and now my Service Warning is on my display. Any ideas? I try to clear but keeps showing up!
@@bigchiefsilvertooth wouldn't have a clue bud sorry, I'd say email healtech though as I'm sure they've run in to it before
Sorry you're having the problem that @TheGorillaBiker can't answer. I'd remove the kit you bought, sell it on eBay, and learn to short shift a dogbox transmission. You'll get the hang of it. Just don't be a whimp like the guy who made this video. He obviously struggles with low T. It's not his fault. He just hasn't seen his doctor yet. You, on the other hand, own a machine that will let you blip your throttle and change gears without using the clutch. The force is with you. Let's all cunt punch "The broke, inexperienced, gorilla biker.'
I'm on my second falco and they both came with after market exhausts. I used the OE just to get the annual ITV (MOT} check and couldn't imagine riding the sewing machine the bike becomes with them on. Part of this models charm for me is it's soundtrack. Go for it!
I don't mind the stock sound. You get beautiful induction noise with a k&n. I've sadly since had to sell the bike anyway.
@@TheGorillaBiker I hope you find another in the US, there seem to be some over there if the faceAche pages in on are anything to go by. Good luck!
Yeah I need to start looking, think Facebook may sadly be the place to check
Interesting as I've got a gen 1 tuono which is basically the same thing, I was looking at this exact kit and you've made my mind up watching this install as it looks simple enough 👌 good job bud.
I'll be making another video soon after using it for a bit. Really impressive bit of kit tbh and the app makes it so easy to use. Thanks :)
I've had these on all sorts of bikes and found that sometimes, when mounted on the shift bolt, tightening to 7nm can reduce the sensor sensitivity. If it does, you can get away with the pinch bolt being a little looser, and lock-wire it for peace of mind. Also I've had the sensor split and fail twice on a KTM even when torqued correctly (although they are a slightly different method of fitting) and does illustrate that they don't like being particularly tight. Never had problems fitting them on the push rod though.
Sometimes you need to adjust the shift sensitivity and duration to get them slick, but they are a great piece of kit when working properly. Good choice.
I actually didn't in the end as the effort 7Nm was taking made me nervous so it's a little looser, but working fine. Lock wire is a good shout! Oh right, I'll keep an eye for that, did they replace it under warranty when it failed or what was the story there? I'm glad I didn't push it to the 7Nm so! Yeah the push rod would be grand to swap to, the bolt was just easy as so I went with the lazy option.
Had it out for a very quick spin today and actually seems very good out of the box, only a little more time will tell me if I need to fine tune anything :) Glad they do work well tho!
@@TheGorillaBiker No they didn’t replace the sensor although it was more than a year old. They said they were looking at improving the fitment on the ktm. They’re about £50 each to replace hence my cautionary note. Currently have one on a multidtrada 950 fitted the same as yours and had no problem in two years so far. I can’t fit it on the shift rod on mine because the rod is a pull rod not a push rod so it wouldn’t work. Glad yours is working fine. 👍
hey there GB, my problem is knowing when to stop spending money on these things, i think there has to be a cut off point as to where you can over invest and you actually lose money. i think a good freshen up of the suspension is usually what i go for first and then anything else that needs doing after that, have to prioritize what needs doing first though, another good vid mate, keep up the good work
Ah yeah I think it's easy really, it's why I haven't put any flash bits on the CBF, I know I'll swap that at some stage. The other bikes I know I'm keeping so the cost is a lot yes bit I'll benefit so it's ok in the long run :)
Yeah it's why exhausts are on the longest finger. Don't need them. Suspension next and it's done, I'll just enjoy it for a few years :)
Thanks!
That's how I do it :)
I am a fan of Healtech, I installed the Speedo fix and Thunderbox usb power. I am a fan, nice video mate 🤘
Yeah I've the speedohealer on the gsxr and have the thunder box ready to go for the CBF, so far very happy 😁 Glad to hear someone else has tried them out :) Thanks bud!
They do some great bits of kit, a little expensive for me at the mo, but never say never lol
They're actually on the cheaper side of the QS's too, but definitely a lot of money! The cheapest I could get really was the Vector one that I have on the GSXR, but that's all cut to fit rather than plug & play so I'm much happier to spend an extra 50 euro and get this :)
Hey bud. Good vid. I have had 2 falcos in the past, love my Aprilia's. Your vids on these give me great memories. Might just have to get another one. Cheers from Australia.
Thanks! Haha you should definitely go get another :P I'm loving mine so far anyway so hopefully I remember mine as fondly as you yours :)
Nice installation. Not sure if I can (or would want to) put one on my Griso. But if I ever buy another sports bike, that would be on top of the list.
Thank ye sir, can't really take any credit tho as its just a neat loom :)
Ah the Griso would be class with one :) could give it a go :)
Yeah any modern bikes especially I was buying would have to have one.
From what I gather, Healtech are a great company.... this reminds me that I really need to install my speedohealer to the Gixer!
I've never used a quickshifter, am still undecided if I want one for my Aprilia, the Aprilia one is plug and play, so might treat myself towards the end of summer if I have any money.
Well they'll soon be on 3 of my bikes :D Speedohealer on the GSXR which is still working perfect, I must edit that video actually :D You do need to and should :D Doitdoitdoit :)
Ah, the issue is once you use them you'll want them forever. Got to give the Aprilia a good test yesterday and I have to say the QS is smooth as silk. Works fantastic. I would wonder on how much you'd use it on the Tuareg tho, the GSXR would definitely like one :P
@@TheGorillaBiker on my Beta I hardly ever use the clutch for both up and down shifts coz on dirt bikes you can, so it could be useful in the dirt, but am not sure as I can ride the 660 in second gear faster than I generally ride on the trails
Ah fair enough so! Worst case you end up with a really fun thing for the road, I say do it :D
@@TheGorillaBiker :D I like your attitude!: D
Spending money on bikes is never a bad idea :D
So fitted one to my Mille. I have set the range of rpm 8k to 10.5k so you can still down blip and it doesn’t cut the revs when you touch the lever, which is really annoying. Cut time is at 85ms and delay at 25 upped the delay to that from 15 made it a bit smoother. I only use it when going flat out as it can be a little bit inconsistent some smooth some not so smooth low down but all good when riding fast as I’m sure it’s intended to be used when going near to red line. If anybody else has some sweet settings be good to hear!
I had mine set from 5.5k up I think in the end and it worked fine, a bit lumpy too low down but still worked fine. Cut time on the down shift? I never tried that to be honest so am no use there. I only use it for upshifts. I was using a 90ms cut time and the default delay, I never changed that one as it worked fine for me. Sorry I can't be of more help!
@@TheGorillaBiker I don’t use it for down shifts either was just saying above that it will still cut the revs on downshift because of the sensor that’s why I had the lower limit revs set so high as you wouldn’t be changing down much and rev matching over 8k often so most of the time it won’t cut the fuel. But will still cut changing up above 8k 👍🏻hope this makes sense and thanks for the reply
I've been contemplating a quickshifter for a while due to a fused right wrist and I'm just picking up a falco in a few days. Very informative thanks alot 👍
Happy it was able to help a bit :) Apparently translogic also make a really good option too, definitely look at that one too!
@@TheGorillaBiker awesome I'll take a look
Mmm interesting GB would I have a quick shifter ! probably not it certainly is a slick system you fitted on the Falco, but fer me if ain't already there I wouldn't add it . I only say that in this case because I have this feeling that the gearbox is not made to accommodate this stuff , and I know that has absolutely no reasoning behind it but that's me fer ya . On my XJR it's standard silencers only because I have not seen a system I like the look of . They are all cans and they don't suite that bike (in my opinion) . The magna will have non standard silencers and complete system eventually . It will also have a custom paint job too eventually but as you well know these things ain't cheap but we gotta do em right : D) good one mate well done : )
A lot of people have that concern but it's less harsh than say clutchless shifting, which is fine. Will it wear the gearbox slightly faster? Probably, but that's ok to me. It's hard to find ones that look nice in fairness, I'd like a factory look but better performance. Haha can't wait to see it all :)
Grand job great video. I almost wish my crosstourer was manual shift so I could fit one of these.
Thanks bud! Do you not have the little flicky buttons? I heard the you can get a foot shifter for them, that'd be very similar then :)
All the right mods in all the right places imho. But Srad or falco for out and out favourite????
That.....is an impossible decision 😂
Probably Falco for longer spins tho..it's more comfortable
Fantastic Video as always!
A suggestion would be to change all indicators to some more modern smaller ones, and I’ve put some GPR cans on mine and it sounds fantastic!
Love you videos please keep em coming 😃
Thanks bud :)
Ah I couldn't, I really like the look of the stock indicators, it's rare I find moderny ones that I think suit older bikes. Maybe one day tho! :D
I will certainly try to :)
@@TheGorillaBiker ahhhh yeah that’s a good point tbf I do see where your coming from actually 😄
Could you maybe make an acceleration video using the quickshifter? Nice install and good explanation ;)
I can try work it in to a video no problem :)
If I was still racing I might try a quickshifter, but for me part of the fun is seeking to attain gearchange perfection... I have to say the wires seem very delicate as they are. Will you wrap or bundle them? The one from the shift mechanism itself looks particularly vulnerable to boots. Who knows what I might do if I had some money . . . 🤔 Then I think I'd be better off putting money aside for a different bike that wouldn't need the mods I am thinking about .... Good clear video again. Well done 👍
Ah you need to try one at some point on the road, it's such a satisfying feeling just banging up through the gears :D Plus it'll likely get a stint on the track for a laugh so it'll be used :)
There's actually pretty thick insulation on them to be fair to them, and I don't have enough length to wrap them up. That cable from the shifter has since been migrated behind the sprocket cover and tied to the clutch line away from the sprocket, I couldn't leave it there.
Haha yeah I should really just sell them all and buy a v4 tuono with all the extras if I had any sense. But I don't :P Thanks Stephen :)
Hey there GB, can I ask what the Fireblade sidestand mod is like? I heard that it makes the bike stand up more and not lean over so much, which I could imagine is not really a positive thing?
So far it seems more stable than the stock, but the bike definitely stands up fairly straight which doesn't delight me. Half thinking of making one altogether and seeing how that goes, I'd much rather more of a lean on it.
@@TheGorillaBiker Thanks GB, appreciate it! That's what I feared about the Fireblade stand, think I'll stick with the original for the time being, then.
@@andrewuk184 no hassle at all, I do these tests so others can not be as poor as me 😂😂
Yeah you're better off. It's not the most stable either but I'd rather an upgrade that fixes it.
I have the same one on my gsxr 600 srad, still finding it a little finicky to get it working properly (actually didn’t engage properly on one shift and snapped the drive chain)
It did take me a while to get it nicely balanced but it never felt like it was doing anything bad. That's a very bad result, how the hell did it do that?!
Didn’t seem to engage gear and I wasn’t quick enough to grab the clutch
@@mickusable but instead of like a false neutral it locked up? That's bad now!
Yeah, pretty much, not tried it since, an expensive ornament at the moment 😢
Ah that's a pain man, you should email them on it they replied to me very fast!
Hi, question. In the beginning of your installation the white, read and green cable are installed at the right side. At your final check they are at the left side? Or it doesnt matter at which side they are? Like to hear from you. Grz Jeroen.
It doesn't matter, from memory I just swapped them as it was the neatest way for me to route them that wouldn't interfere with anything going back on. Just make sure they're not going to be pinched and you'll be good
@@TheGorillaBiker ok, thank you very much for your answer
You're welcome!
Great video thanks still all good with the bike?
Thanks. Yep all good! Works very nicely :)
Still no problems with gearbox or bike ?
It starts in the GSXR and it will infect all motorcycles (maybe not the Magna) obligatory pause for doggo petting :D
Haha it does and has :P Definitely not the Magna, it's one that it actually wouldn't add to I don't think :) If Splat had been less camera shy he'd also have gotten the pause :P
@@TheGorillaBiker the real MVP appears when he wants!
Hi, great video 👍 does it work fine? I’ve heard someone had issue with downshift while rev-matching…
It worked very good while I had it, I never tried downshifting with it tbh I always used the clutch.
@@TheGorillaBiker alright 👍 but when you downshifted with the clutch, did you revmatch or not? 😅
@@vuongtran1435 I assumed you'd meant downshifting using the blip function on the qs. Depends on the situation. Never had an issue when I did rev match.
@@TheGorillaBiker oh no 😅 i meant normal downshift with rematch without using the function of the quickshift 😊
but very good to hear that you didnt have issue with downshifting 👍
@@vuongtran1435 sometimes typed words can get confusing 😂
Appreciate it thanks 👍🏻
Great just sent to my mechanic
Haha he'll probably laugh at me so :D
Hi, u can also shit down without putting clutch?
Theoretically you can, but I personally didn't and wouldn't trust it.
What year Falco?
Will this shifter fit my 2003 Tuono?
2000. It should, you can get all the bits you need if you go to healtechs website it has a product finder for your year/make/model
Great video. Where can I order?
Thanks! I ordered directly on the healtech website.
If you have the disposable income then defo get some pipes, the neighbours wont thank you for it though haha
Sadly that's the biggest issue now, I am fully out of money accidentally sent a little too much 😂😂 So they'll have to wait!
If only you was local bud I’d be asking you to pop round. I have no confidence in messing with the bike. I leave that to people who know what they are doing..
Haha I'd happily try help :) Ah there's only one way to learn it too, once you have a back up when you break something, cus you will break something :D
@@TheGorillaBiker see breaking something is a no no for me I’d lose my shit 😂. I’ll catch the ferry and bring my stuff over for you 😉
Hahaha fair enough :D
RIP gearbox.
Gearbox will be grand there's lads using this unit(the older model) for years on the aprilia twins :)