Transforming a MOLDY IROC-Z Camaro CHEAP + Fixing it up!
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- In today's video we take years of neglect off of the car inside and out. We fix some SKETCHY fuel lines and give the car it's first oil change. The engine has been decoded and information is in the video! It's NOT a 305.
We are actually dealing with a 350 from what seems to be a 1974 Chevrolet car or truck. There's a slim chance it's from a Corvette.
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My New BARN FIND Iroc-Z! Mystery V8/5-Speed Trash or Treasure?*
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I have an 86 iroc and can’t wait to follow you on the journey. Not many third gen you tubers keep it up
Thanks bud, I'll keep them coming. Hoping to make a "poor man's" DSE-Z out of it.
Idiot: BTW im Toxic
Im want to buy a 1991 Z28 I’m saving money to buy one, I’m super exited to see this, makes me want to get my Camaro even more!
Literally same
This was a nice Facebook marketplace find 👍 I sure someone will want it, cheap driver like you said. That is until they can afford a LsX swap. Black valve covers would clean up The engine bay pretty good. Love those fall cruises with all those colors. Great video 👍
I've got a set of black valve covers coming. That, along with the most recent video cleaning it up I think it'll be a pretty decent ride without a ton of money into it. Thanks for checking out the video.
I have an 85 L69. I pulled the carb/ECU harness out because it was crap and ran a vacuum distributer as well. The reverse light wiring are in that harness if they never hooked it back up. I just reran after I pulled mine out. The plug for that is on the divers side of the trans.
That's good to know. I found that the brake lights are also not working. I suspect it's a similar harness issue.
I love these generations dude. I recently bought my second camaro. 91 RS. Straight body, no rust. $800. Getting full rebuild.
Most fun cars to drive . Had an 87 iroc 350... picked up a super clean 89 formula 350 last week also 0 rust for dirt cheap !!!
Nice buy there! It's getting really hard to find them for that much $$$ if they are pretty clean.
Nice find. Congrats!
GreenLightFilming Yes sirrr. Rebuilding the whole back half right now. It’s got a 9 bolt that I just welded the axle tubes to the housing. 3.27 gears. The mini spool I ordered is one whole piece with 4 holes for the three cross shafts in the enclosed carrier. Pretty much a spool. Whole new suspension, new pump, fuel lines. Painted undercarriage. Gonna be sweet.
I own a 91 RS convertible. Anniversary Rims/ 305 TBI. 41k Miles. was my dads. Nice to see this car getting a fix.
congrats on the move, the new home & garage. your music, scenery on your drives is awesome, and generally you are doing a great job...keep up the good work, you will be at 10,000 subs soon !
Thanks Duffy, appreciate it! We are happy with our new surroundings so far. Just need to keep making it our own lol.
I'm feeling much better about restoring my dad's 1988 Camaro - All Stock with 123k original miles. Runs really well, mostly just needs to fix some light rust around the T-Tops and clean up the interior. Thanks for the video.
Good deal! Glad it put some wind under your wings to get working on your Dad's car. That's super cool. My first third gen was given to me by my Dad. Good luck!
9:16 that startup sounds like Van Halen hot for teacher 😂
Me and my brother currently have 2 camero irocs that have been sitting for a couple of years , my brother actually gifted me one for free and I can’t wait to get it running ! 💪🏽
I just bought a 1985 IROC To do a Restomod on . Keeping the original looks but adding modern suspension , brakes and drivetrain . Detroit Speed makes great parts for these cars
Yep, that's what I see with this car. The Detroit Speed DSE-Z is the perfect third gen. Love it.
@@Greenlightfilming I always loved the IROC’s . Detroit Speed made me want one again and the prices seem to slowly going up on them
@@cole-trickle50 that's what I'm seeing too. Prices on these cars make my head spin these days. I think they are going to keep getting more collectable over time. Especially cars with good options.
@@Greenlightfilming I agree . I remember when you could buy a decent 1978 trans am for like 3k in 20 years they have jumped into the 80’s . The IROC’s may not get to that level but I could see the 40s someday
There's numbers stamped in the front passenger side of the block under the alternator if it wasn't ground off
Thanks for the tip! I'll be looking for this tonight when I am working on the car.
Great work on the pressure washing, looks good!
Thanks bud, I didn't do any skilled work to clean it up yet lol. The paint is worse than I was hoping it was going to be. It has a pretty amateur paint job.
I literally just got my white 86 engine swapped 305 z28 today. She’s gorgeous.
Good job cleaning up the 3rd gen,I think you got a good deal, when you get it running good,some DSE handling parts on it !! Good job.dont forget the molit.
the mullet is hard to shake once you've had one of these. they are a lot of fun! lol. I'd love to throw the whole UMI/DSE catalog at it, but i'm not made of money. Thanks for checking out the video.
I really do love all your videos, especially improving the appearance of your cars. Can't wait to see the next video. Don't forget to get plates!
Yep, plates are coming. DMV's aren't doing anything in person so it's all done by mail. How wonderful.... lol. Thanks for checking out the video. Hoping to make the car decent again!
Just scored an 85 Iroc Z, you got lucky, mine was 15" deep in the ground and had been sitting for 15 yrs with a blown head gasket, BUTT I got it for 500 bux. Yesterday I got the balls to try and crank it, didnt wanted to find out it was seized but did anyway and its moving. Time to drop the tank and then do the heads. Took 3 days to get the motor clean of the mouse crap did I mention that they ate the plug wires in half but didn't touch any of the other wiring.
Overall I'd say you got fairly lucky if it ends up being "as advertised" if it was buried that deep and the mice found it. They can really wreak havoc on a car. Good luck with your project! Sounds like the price was right.
I had a 86 white iroc-z but mine was a t-top automatic. Loaded.
It's a clean car I like it. I've had a 91 Z28, a Convertible 89 Iroc, an 86 Iroc, and a 85 Z28. The thing I hate the most when I go and look at ones for sale is that ALOT of these have had the TPI removed from them and sold, or replaced with an inferior carb.
I hear that bud. The TPI systems can be troublesome and I do sympathize with people that just put a carb on these. This car imwas a factory LG4 car so it was carburated from the factory. No major loss.
@@Greenlightfilming A-men bro
The 86 is my favorite IROC Z! Only year for the brake light over the rear window.
Lol that's funny. I dont care for the big third brake light personally.
I perffered the third brake light on the wing
If third brake lite....needs to be in the air spoiler....makes it not stick out
One of my favorite dream cars of all time. Perfect video! Idk how hard it is to get ahold of one of these but I want one and have wanted one since I was a child and still never got one. I NEED one.
Better shop around for one. They are going up in price every year!
i have the sister car to this…a 92 firebird that was my dads and i was with him when he bought it new. i completely restored it but heres the main problem you will have in fixing it….the lack of parts availability.gm doesnt make parts for it anymore and aftermarket parts are also scarce. i hope you can get it back in shape though. it would be nice to see it restored back to its former glory.
Sick video. Possibly buying 3rd third gen project this year. Needed the inspiration. What is the song when you're washing the car
Nice video and interesting find. I recently purchased an '87 last month that almost identical to yours. Currently preparing mine for LS swap. Looking forward to additional videos on the car.
Thanks, appreciate it! Congrats on your find. Hope your swap goes painlessly. Can't go wrong with LS power in one of these cars.
As far a the battery voltage dropping when the electric fan turns on, check to see if it is a factory fan motor. I have the factory dual electric fans on my Firebird and the primary fan started to go. It would still work but, drawing way to much current. So much in fact it was melting the wire harness to the battery. I put in new GM fan motor and replaced the fan wires. About a year later, on a very hot day, the same thing happened to the secondary cooling fan. Replaced that motor, and both have work flawlessly ever since, with no crazy current draw.
That could very well be it. I have spun the fans by hand since reading you comment and the motors seem to be "free", although that doesn't account for the motor's windings. It could be a bad fan, that's for sure. Thanks for the tip, I'll keep that in mind.
Just found your channel and subbed!! Nice to see a MN guy on here having to deal with things the rest of us normally do as far as cars go!
Thanks for the sub, appreciate it! Greetings
Same Minnesota bread I just brought my first 1989 Camaro RS
So glad you got rid of the air cleaner of death!! Seems like another cool little project.
Yep, that had to go lol. That alone was a worthwhile fix
Always wanted a Iroc z love how they look.
They are really cool looking cars IMO.
It needs bilstien shocks and hochkis suspension with their lowering springs as well and adjustable panhard rod and some box tubular control arms and it will drive like it’s on rails.
O’Reilly carry’s royal purple oil filter 10-54 for 15.98
I agree with you 100%. A set of weld in SFC's, lowering springs and tubular rear suspension would transform it into a little race car. That's what I can see doing in my head with it. I've got a couple of parts coming already that I think you'll like. Stay tuned!
@@Greenlightfilming will do a lil Ls1 mild cam would make an awesome daily!!
this is just like the 300 dollar firebird i got !!!! runs like a dream now , is body shop now getting left quarter panel fixed , but its running and shes clean like this car !!!!
Can't complain over $300 haha. Wish I could pick up a complete car for that much. They are a lot of fun! Good luck with your bird.
Too bad that the rear wiper option was not ordered during assembly.
You could find all the hardware NOS (linkage/motor/switch/wiper/wiring) waiting for you at a GM dealership.
Rare option usually seen on the Berlinetta version of the Camaro.
Very handy feature in inclement weather with that beautiful rear glass hatch.
Thumbs up!
Chevy is famous for the harmonic balancer moving because they have the rubber between it. Have tried to use timing light never is right.
I agree to your point here. The kbly balancer I've had totally fail was on a fox body. They are probably all prone to the same issue
Duuuuude," YOU ARE"!!! changing your blinker fluid. LOL.
haha, I got a good chuckle when I saw the bulb half full of water. It got my lights working on that corner of the car by replacing it too. Bonus!
Really would have loved to have seen you spray Sea foam in the carburetor to clean out the injectors, there's a RUclips video with a farm truck he did that with a seafoam and it worked out amazing
I've ran a bunch if seafoam through the tank and cleaned the card with carb cleaner. I could seafoam the top end of the engine too.
Project Farm has some great videos and has me a 100% believer in seafoam. I watched his truck series on it.
3rd gen lover here ,love this series im definitely subscribing
Thanks, appreciate it! Been working on the GTA lately. More to come on the Iroc-Z
Cold start with mechanical advance sucks. Vacuum advance helps so much. That goes for any engine. 4,6,8 cylinders. My 66 Beetle had a mechanical distributor and I put it back to vacuum advance and it made a world of difference for cold start. Those older GM HEI distributors sucked.
Really enjoyed the video brother!! It looks like you're about to have a when lot of fun!!!!! This is going to be a really fun ride!!!!!! This resto is gonna be awesome!!!!!!!!👍🏿👍🏿
I'm hoping to polish this turd! lol. Time will tell how far I take it. The car is a little rougher than I'd like if I were to keep it forever. It really needs a full restoration to be "nice".
Dude. Its an iroc z. It's worth way more than 4 grand if you love the car.
I can see getting that for it now that its cleaned up
Get a set of the black valve covers to match the new air cleaner. The IROC is coming along nicely, Definitely looks like a fun weekend cruiser and occasional Friday drive to work car. Could do some cheap mods on performance & suspension to make the drivability that much better. Love the series so far, keep up the great work bud!
I've got a set on order, they will really clean up the car. I also see the car as a weekend warrior/bad weather car. It's going to be a lot of fun for not a lot of money. Appreciate the kind words, thanks bud!
HMMMMM, I thought IROCs came with the Tuned Port Injection for the 5.0 and 5.7s.
Some also came with a factory carburated V8 (LG4), which is what mine came with.
Someone swapped it our for a mid 70's 350.
Was the harness for a Tuned Port Injection unit or was it one of the early 85’ models that still had the computer feedback Q Jet?
Good eye. It was for the factory electronic carb. It is an LG4 car.
@@Greenlightfilming
"Factory electronic carb"? Wouldn't that be a TBI -Throttle Body Injection?
Even without vacuum advance the mechanical advance should bring the timing up at higher rpms
X2... vacuum advance is just for light throttle/high vacuum cruising...
doing a compair isnt really far in every way! how much was the vette? how much was the iroc? i have a firebird not a t/a ws6 but lt1 94 cherry! love it! used to have a corvette also and an iroc 85 in high school! although my iroc was tpi auto so if urs is manul its got way less power than the tpi 305! they awesome fun cars thou! 2800 i think you did pretty weel for the smile it puts on your face
Nice work on the power wash really good! The trans am you have is really nice.
The Trans Am is slowly becoming a garage queen, thanks! I love the car.
Damn that's a good deal I just paid 8 grand for my 89 iroc convertible
It was an ok deal. Yours must be in much better shape for 8k.
Dont feel bad I paid 8k for a 83' firebird trans am 83,659 original miles 305 cui 5 speed.
These cars are going up it wild to watch
That car had balls when it first came out 💪🏻💪🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It was a cool car for the time. Think the LG4 that came in it made like 150hp lol.
Here in canada that thing would easily sell for 10k right now with it cleaned up, running and driving
Haha, hopefully not THIS exact car. It's a real turd to be honest!
@@Greenlightfilming i mean 10k here is like what, 7k uds
@@Greenlightfilming usd
@@Greenlightfilming plus classics in canada are super super hard to find in relatively rust free shape like yours. I havd an 88. Floors are rusted through, rockers are toast, rear wheel wells and quarter are completely gone snd it still cost me 6500 cuz it was considered a good deal in thid market
You are brave! I haven’t had a carb on one of my f bodies since high school and I’m never going back lol
There was a nice 86 Z28 listed on Craigslist in Syracuse ny. for $6k.
I contacted the owner .
It sold in 1 hour .
full price .
I believe it. For that money it would disappear if it's super nice. Hell, I would have considered buying it haha.
Just started watching these, so if it’s already been address sorry for beating the dead horse. I was watching another RUclips video recently of a car getting tuned on the dyno that was draining power when the fans kicked on and it ended up being what they just to tap into power of. Maybe you could track down the power source for the fan and see if maybe it needs to be hooked up to a better power output.
In a recent video, it ended up being a bad alternator. It was totally shot. Since replacing it everything works totally fine.
I like it my brother had a few 3rd gens.
Nice. I've got a huge soft spot for these cars. They are affordable and fun to tinker with.
Looking forward to seeing more of this car!
👍 trying to figure out what I'm going to do with it. The car is rougher than I hoped
I would have to say it's the alternator that's weak going about to go out... But yeah I had a Camaro just like it but there's a very first year of that body style 82 I think berlinetta, I had 10-in deep dish cragars on it and front runners on the front built 350 I put in it loved it it was an automatic with a shift kit
You are probably right on the alternator. It's either the battery or alternator as the car sits now. It always starts fine and seems to have plenty of battery capacity after sitting so I'm leaning towards the alternator. I think you and I spoke on Instagram?
Got a 90 iroc myself look under the wipers cowl under screen I found some surface rust i clean it then used por 15 😊
Lol, I wish that's all I had for rust on my car! Good on you for getting ahead of it. Keep that ride nice!
didn't know they offered the IROC without TPI?....I had an 89 305 TPI...a super car
Yes, you could get them with a carbureted LG4. The TPI engine is the iconic Iroc powerplant.
Change the module in the distributor or carry an extra don't get stuck on the road happend to me in the 85 z28
Someone has changed it from TPI to carb evidently. That's what I want to do with my 86 Z28 305 TPI. Tpi is a pain in the ass if you don't know how to work on it.
Yooo that’s a steal I want a iroc z sooo bad it’s one that’s been sitting for bout a year never moved all black
Knock on the door and see what they say. Never know if they will sell it til you ask!
@@Greenlightfilming right !
love thirdgen's..nice gem you got there ! good video
Thank bud! They are sweet cars when they are done right. I'm hoping to bring this roach back to life.
Hardtop, nice
Pretty sure I wouldn't have bought it if it wasnt a hard top
Great video😁....bittersweet though, makes me miss mine😢
They are still out there! Keep your eye out. One will pop up.
@@Greenlightfilming I see them every once in a while. I guess I’m just more particular than most? I really want to find another five speed, manual transmission.
Anyway, thanks for sharing this! Brought back some nostalgia for me😁😊
"The 305 is the most gutless motor you can have in these. They only had like, 160HP when new"
Me: *Cries in 140HP 305 in my Monte Carlo*
Haha yes, it does get worse. I can't believe what some of this stuff was rated at.
Car looks great! Hard to not love a white Z
Agreed. They are sharp looking cars
I still love the WS6 always will but Very nice man , all of your cars .
Yep, I love it too. It's my favorite, but it slowly becoming a garage queen haha. Making a car "nice" makes it tough to wheel it all the time!
vacuum advance is only part throttle cruising advance not wot or low vacuum it still has mechanical advance
I just picked one up for $1500 with a 350 and the manual Love the Iroc so happy I got it, your battery turns the car over really well so I would check the alternator first. I also couldn't help but hear a ticking when the engine is on at 14:39 is that the exhaust or the engine itself and if so how did you fix it?
Nice buy! Is it in pretty good shape? I actually found what seems to be 90% of that issue. I'll have that in the next video lol. It's a lot dumber than you'd think..... Yes, the ticking you are hearing is exhaust leaks.
Idk if i should get one man what do u think??
I absolutely think you should
Great find I have 86 as well all original thought it has T tops and automatic the only question I have is the IROC logo on the door is closer to the back mine is closer to the front of the door???
This car has been entirely repainted, and I'd guess they just put the decals in the wrong spot on the door. You are correct. Good eye.
85 to 87 in the front... 88 to 90 back of door!
Nice 'Bird!
We have twin vehicles. I've watched a handful of your videos. You're doing everything I'm trying to with mine. I have questions. You have IG correct?
Yes sir, we must have spoke on IG
We did. I did figure out what that was. And i may know why i wasn't getting the car to turn over.
Whoever had that car before you just took whatever factory Induction the car had and took it off.
I know the 85 IROC’s you could get the 5 speed and quadrajet don’t think you could get it with tpi with the 5 speed. The 5 speed was never available with the 350 in the 1987 and newer models. Gm said the 5 speed was not strong enough.
The belt setup looks wrong for that year.
There are so many ways not to hack up wiring and do things right. Is this really an IROC or just a plain Camaro?
It was a real iroc that came with the 305 (LG4) and the T5 that was in it.
At some point in its life, someone swapped in what turned out to be a mid 70's truck 350. I go over the whole engine deal in another video.
Regardless, the car is an iroc.
I’d just replace that junk breather with a H.O. dual snorkel breather off a84/85 carbed z28/iroc
I've got an Edelbrock air cleaner on it now. Lots better than the disintegrating foam filter that was on it before....
@@Greenlightfilming oh for sure lol
@@brettbrannon4775 lol. Not too sure what i'm going to do with the car yet, so keeping it "cheap" is the idea for now.
@@Greenlightfilming yea I’d do the same but that’s a decent car for a keeper with a ls swap in the future
You used the wrong oil.. Its a flat tappet motor and you need to run Diesel oil like shell rottella T-6 because it has more zink in it for lubricating the lifters and cam. I Use a zddp zink additive also in both of my 3rd gens with flat tappet cams.. Newer 1987 and up motors with center bolt valve covers all have roller cams and lifters and you can run any type of oil in them!
You are right, I have to give it to you. That's something that I totally overlooked! I'll add some of that zinc additive to it before driving it again. Thanks for pointing that out.
Modern diesel oil isn't much higher in zinc than most regular gas motor oil. All the emissions on modern diesels has changed the formula. Unless you can find some specifically rated CJ-4(1200 parts per million), if it's CI-4 or higher (less than 800 parts per million, some times a lot less) the zinc content is so low it doesn't matter. Most of what's on the market is CK-4, the zinc has been lowered to keep the regenerater from burning up. Similar to the issues gas engines have with catalytic converters.
If that 350 is from the 70s I doubt you need to worry about zinc. It's needed primarily during break in to treat the cam. After 40 years the cam is either good or it's gone.
2.09 gas prices man i miss that
No doubt
I had a 86 and 87 iroc
2800 is not bad..people are asking for 3500-4500 in similar or worst condition..ive even seen 2500 no engine or transmission.(socal)
Yep, I agree. Luckily for you, the cars you are looking at are unlikely to have rust. Most are rotted out here in Minnesota.
I have had cars backfire and catch one of those air cleaners on fire. I toss them in the trash when I get a car with one now.
I believe you. That one was fried lol.... its seen a backfire or two in its life. It's in the garbage now.
Buying mine this Sunday White RS $4,000
Sweet! Good luck with the purchase! Hope it all worked out.
I loved those cars. They were mean
The Iroc-Z's held up well over time in my opinion. Just in the last few years are they getting poopular in the mainstream.
@@Greenlightfilming hard to find them anymore, or even see them really. Wish I could find me one at a reasonable price and still good shape. If i were to it would be garage kept and baby'd.
It's not a 305. That is always question #1 for me. 350 or bust.
the newer 305 tpi's have more horses.. i think the 1991 has 220Hp and the 350 has 240
If that was my car I would pull that motor and drop in a new one. I think that would improve the car overall.
The engine runs good. The carburetor had some issues that have since been addressed. Not sure the engine is "bad" lol.
@@Greenlightfilming I'm the type of person I would pull that motor and build my own with all new parts. Yeah it would cost some money but would make the value much more. More power is a good thing.
@@Greenlightfilming I'm the type of person I would pull that motor and build my own with all new parts. Yeah it would cost some money but would make the value much more. More power is a good thing.
My 1989 5.7 IROC-Z with 50k miles has never needed cleaning to this extent.
Haha, I hope not! This was a real treat.
your car has. racing cam!
I can't tell if it's cammed or the timing is off and it has an exhaust leak lol
Yes to all of the above haha. In later videos, it is tuned up fairly well and the exhaust leak is fixed. It has a nice little cam in it.
Safety 3rd! I was looking forward to seeing how to go about it but then you were more interested in washing it then how terrible it was running. Next you're gonna take it for a little Cruse and you are guessing there might be a problem with the choke? Open the hood and find out or if you don't know how to, then why would you put yourself and anyone who's driving or walking in danger? The car was unsafe to drive but you guessed it would be ok. Act Responsible! Your viewers take example from watching you. We're all about being safe at all costs these days so grab a spoon and dig in. "Safety 3rd" is Funny Poo. P.S. Nice Find.✌🏻
I guess only the LB9 305 TPI had the 145 Speedo.
only the 350 tpi had a 145 speedo
I paid $400 for my 83 iroc z💀nd it had a big block engine
7000$ on ebay easy.
I've got an 85 t-top just like this virgin 305 electric tune port injection every option available for sale somebody get at me looking to build a new garage
I have a 1988 irocz convertible tpi who wants it
Post it on the Fbody Empire, or Third Gen Camaro and Firebird Facebook page.
earlier part of your comparison here from the trans chicken vs the camaro, might be a tad bit more even if you take the iroc z28 350 tpi from the factory and your trans bird might not be such a cadillac. this car you are comparing it too is way off base.
Turn the key over not all the wait wait a min the turn it all the way
It allows the fuel pump to purge and start up easoer3
This car has a mechanical fuel pump and carburetor. Otherwise you are correct.
Chevrolet should make a new version of IROC-Z
Also, it appears you have a half mustache.
This car is worth 2800 bucks with Classic Insurance this car is more Book value
You nailed it lol. I did pay $2,800 for it, but someone commented that before you.
Imagine in germany i would pay about 12000 for an iroc. Sad :/. Import is to expensive
I hear you! That is too bad. They are very affordable in the United States.
Where is that cool bridge?
Wisconsin
350, 4 bolt main
I think it's probably a 2 bolt main... Probably a truck engine.
@@Greenlightfilming I would say it is a truck engine. The 70s/80s truck engines I have pulled with the 010 as the last 3 on the cast# have been 4 bolt car sounds very good either way nice IROC-Z
Awesome
Thanks bud
That is not the engine that came with the car it should be a 305 tpi or 350 tpi
That's not true. It came with an LG4. This is the last year that a carburated 305 was available.
Love it
Thanks James, glad you enjoyed it!