Just wanted to clarify potential confusion. You might still catch a DBD stream here and there on my Twitch channel as a lot of my audience still enjoys watching me play it. But there won't be new DBD content created for RUclips/TikTok etc. I'll be creating Variety content/discussions going forward. And as we (hopefully) start to find that new Variety audience, you'll see less and less DBD on Twitch as well. I feel I have a lot more to offer as a content creator than just focusing on one game, as I just love talking about gaming and entertainment in general ❤
The fact the devs said we’re going to be able to “upgrade” our skins is so ridiculous. They said recently they won’t make a p100 cosmetic cuz they don’t want people missing out meanwhile everything is locked behind a paywall?
While I understand this frustration I think I understand where the devs are coming from. The grind to p100 is a long grind and having a reward for it promotes grinding for it and if people who want to collect everything has an unimaginable grind ahead compared to a crazy amount of money
@@E_2the_mma very true but i just think it’s odd they say they don’t want to leave ppl out while leaving ppl out with limited cosmetics and stuff like that. But yea I agree p100 grind is insane lol
This AMA did a great job highlighting why I stopped playing DbD about a year and a half ago and have no desire whatsoever to return. This game isn't just a rudderless ship, it's a ship captained by a crew who've never been out to sea.
I stopped playing for about a year because of all the BS. I'd like to think it's better now than it was, but there are still a lot of problems that they refuse to fix.
Here's the summary of the Q&A "We're improving ways to easily get money out of you, but we're too lazy to improve the gaming experience" This game has always had horrible monetization, but this is ridiculous.
Not always. The cosmetic shop was only added a couple years ago actually, but the moment it DID het added I saw the writing on the wall and stopped playing and I have heard nothing but b****ing about the game ever since. Don't get me wrong, DBD is RIFE with amateur developmental errors and mistakes that should have never been a thing and their team is too big and has too much money now to justify the snails pace they take to these things. In fact, I think the game fundamentally needs to be changed because nothing about its current design is actually fun; players literally have to seek the Killer out because it's the only time the game is interesting and the Killers play less like they are trying to KILL people and more like they are trying to catch a bunch of naughty children at a daycare. The microtransactions though? They started with the usual routes, then they added battle passes, then they added prestige items and timed additions to create a sense of FOMO AKA Fear of Missing Out. And just recently RETROACTIVELY bundled all of the Killer DLC's just so you have to pay MORE if you want a single Killer... All while removing old items like Shards which used to let you take Killers for a test drive before buying them. This stuff is objectively predatory on the consumer, but gets worse when you realize they never stop excusing themselves and their slow production with "We are working hard and are so busy" and then pop out cosmetics at 4 times the rate of ACTUAL content updates. This game, by the way, is not FREE and didn't used to be on certain platforms. There isn't a justification for this, people had been buying this game at FULL PRICE for years beforehand and then they retrofitted it into a "F2P" microtransaction game... While making sure not to kiss their chance to make it more woke and change old characters like David King into things they were never designed to be. I don't know why some people are so ardent about defending Behavior. They are an AWFUL company.
Yeah! We should get icons to let us know what team mates are doing!! Oh, wait.... Well they should rework hemorrhage to be actually useful! ... Oh wait.... Well they should give weaker killers like Trapper, Legion and Ghostface buffs!... oh wait. 😊
Honestly, instead of globally shared At this stage, each player should get their own set per weak, but make it so that any perk that is already unlocked for all characters is OUT of the rotation, so you get better and more chances for perks you want
Omg it's crazy how the community has not changed since I've last played. I started playing DBD back in 2017 on ps4. I played it until 2020. I have a total of 1,643 hours on the game. I loved DBD when I played it but I quit for one specific reason which I see is still a problem today, the community. I played as a survivor main and was a runner, I understood the frustration of being a killer and a survivor so when I played killer I played as fair as I could. No tunneling, no camping the hook, and flat out ignoring people I just hooked to go for another person. Yet even if I did play fair like that win or lose I'd get a message from people saying how trash I was and how good they were and how I'm toxic and their reporting me, etc. It was every match whether killer or survivor I'd get a message on my play style. The last chapter I played was the beginning of cursed legacy and then I shortly quit after that and have no plans of coming back to the game due to the communitys hostility toward other players.
I think I quite about right at the time I had some loser spamming messages because I didn't let him escape. He said he wanted to 1v1 me and that he'd loop me for hours at basement. Like wtf, this isn't call of duty. Why would I do that?
I have only been playing since the beginning of this year, and the dark side of the community is the main problem with the game, for sure. My favorite is just playing customs with people I know, solo que is brutal, and playing k!ller can be especially frustrating. I'm a survivor main, but dabble with Ghostface. I do well with him, but survivors AND killer players alike can be nasty. Who you get in a match makes or breaks it.
Well, either I'm just getting lucky or maybe my rank just filter out the toxic players because I haven't seen any toxic messages in post game chat in a while. People just say "GG" and move on
this is the phase in dbd content creators we call "the truetalent" phase, where you become numb to the nonsense the developers pull and just nod your head saying................. "yeh, sure" lol
im just glad otz isnt makeing utube vids about broken shit, hes not the only one, but its a problem with utube, ppl follow the meta, they look to ppl like otz for the meta, instead of ppl building builds they like, they follow otz's build and thats all you see.. its dogshit, i know his intention is to help but it was making shit worse....
The thing is, a player in any game looking for meta builds will always find it whether the person gets it from a content creator, another player in game, forums, or tournaments. The responsibility to this issue lies on the developers to control and manage the "Meta" so that no handful of builds will perform exponentially better than other builds. A way to do this is magnify the issue, so the developers prioritize the problem and fix it, so the player base calms down, spends money and time into the game, and doesn't scare off new players.
searching through a reddit, or talking to someone else... TAKES EFFORT... utubers fall over themselves to be the 1st one out the gate with the new meta build... THATS THE ISSUE.... it takes them 6 months to nurf metas... it takes 1 day of changes for a new meta to be showcased... @@Mr._Idiot440
Sometimes I think about how amazing DBD could be if it was run by competent developers and then I get sad. BHVR are talentless and money-hungry. The fact that every other game they've tried making has failed only proves my point.
Im sad it took 7 years for most broader players to finally see how fucking horrible this company is, their game was simply doomed to die in 2016 if they never got the michael myers keys to jingle
I don't know what you mean, i think they have done a good job so far. And yes, it's been a long time to get this far...but I'll say again, they done a pretty good job from where it all started.
Otz has always had some of the best videos highlighting how good or bad perks or Killer add-ons can be and the fact that some of the community dogpiles on him when something is changed is awful. He has said multiple times that his input has never been considered multiple times even though he's a Fog Whisperer. Gonna miss his educational videos.
@@I-need-2-win Understandable, and you're partially right but it needs to be disabled at endgame at camping. Like Off the Record, DS because current Save the Best can be used like old DS just makes/made a lose-lose uncounterable situation for the opponent side.
The Otzdarva hatred reminds me of Xmen. There's a line that Magneto says when a mutant on his team bad mouths Xavier. Otzdarva has done more for dbd than anyone. The devs are feeling that late stage capitalism. Why care anymore, our overlords wants us to just let the game drain as much money as possible. No care, just money.
I don't really watch Otz, but this is really sad. I feel so bad about how this community treats him. I don't understand why he is blamed for this stuff? He seems so wholesome and only seems to want the best for the community. I don't always agree with perk changes, but I definitely have never thrown a fit over it. I've had a lot of negative interaction in this community - from slurs being hurled at me disguised behind a letter, to getting mad over choices I made that didn't end up effecting anyone else in my matches. I don't have much experience with online games, so it was jarring. But, as patient as I am, I'm starting to not want to play the game much anymore - mostly due to the community. It's so negative and it frustrates me.
Welcome to the real world where 99% of people are just mentaly deficient and even tho they have a brain in their cranium they can't for the fuck of it figure out how to use it...
Dbd is what I call a closed door game. The only players left are your hard-core fans and those who show up for the events. Just like rocket league, the skill and time gap is so large that new players don't tend to stay, and I think the games pop cycles year over year show exactly that, unfortunately the game will remain this way until some really massive changes are made to the game and how it works.
I started playing in July and I'm still very much loving the game. If anything the old guard with leaves and newer players will take their spots. Otz offers no actual solutions to his complaints. One of the reasons I never watched him because he was just constantly and consistently complaining. At the end of the day Behavior will do what they want. The beauty is people don't have to stick around and play.
@@JerseyHilarity otz complaints to better the community as a whole and with guides helps new players, i understand he can come off as negatives but that just show how much he cares about the game and community.
@@mockquia7479 no, it doesn't. He's one of the reasons why the community is so negative in the first place. He has this massive voice in the community and if all he does is complain, with little to no positivity, that is what will fester. As a newerish player myself I never once watched any of his guides. I learned from simply playing. And what I did watch was from much smaller DBD content creators who are way more positive, but don't have the reach Otz does.
Thats why i think multiplyer games should mostly have a 2-3 year run and then die, when you make a game everchanging live service its easy to get everything jumbled up and have large gaps between the community. I kinda miss when every multiplayer game wasnt live service with skin shops and battlepasses and built to last a decade... until like 3 years ago i remember them to be short time flings, now every mp game wants to be your only game
My big problem with DBD is that I feel like the devs are more focused on the rift and skins more than the gameplay and quality of life improvements. I find this to be a big problem in gaming in general now a days especially with COD. To be honest I would rather have an amazingly balanced game with a $50 DLC season pass that allows you to get everything for free during its life cycle rather than a live service game that could shut down at any moment focused on micro transactions and not actual gameplay
After they reverted the accessibility aid from Spine Chill, I tweeted at them to explain that Spine Chill's red meter helped far more than the heartbeat for some people, such as myself, a person with audio processing issues. Again, I was trying to discuss accessibility and how they should reconsider reverting Spine Chill, even though they had always intended for the Terror Radius aspect to be temporary, because it helped people to better play the game... And someone responded, saying that the devs don't care because the game is Killer sided. I can't stress enough how I don't give a shit about that, I'm trying to be able to just play the game.
killer sided lol. the game is so faaaar from killer sided it is laughable. i think solo q players think it is killer sided. but if you have ever played against a normal swf you know the game becomes survivor sided by far.
In my opinion the game isn't sided in any way, just watch Otzdarva's video proving that the game is not survivor sided or killer sided. @@diamondruby7257
It's killer sided at low mmr. I used to think it was killer sided all the way up until they made the mmr strict. I went from consistently getting 3ks to struggling for a draw. Killer experience sucks lately but on the other side solo queqe isn't much fun either😂
BHVR only loves the kids that steal and swipe dad's credit card to buy all the "cool" skins while bullying killers with their friends. The gap between SWF and solo survivor is so huge and never been addressed in the years I've been playing. I'm amazed the game has not lost more people.
Honestly, I play a lot of games and a lot of those are multiplayer. DBD has, legitimately, one of the absolute worst communities I’ve seen from any game in ages. And that’s sad, because between the seemingly careless developers and the breeding toxicity, I fear a good game is going to die off terribly.
Not as long as something doesn't come along, that scatches that gameplay itch. Which is a big ask by now, since DBD is like a Royal Rumble of horror icons in it's genre, which it almost wholly fills out all alone. It has such a powerful stranglehold over this niche, that I don't see it going anywhere. I really don't see the room for all the doom and gloom.
Trust me, I actually hope you are right. I just fear that considering they do not make it easy at all on new players to learn the game, but most of the community actively tries to harass said new (and older) players. It’s getting generally off putting. The horror icons help and definitely keep people around. I just feel that the odds are starting to stack against them, as we see more and more people leaving due to reasons similar to what is explained in the video. And on top of that, new players getting frustrated and getting into a different, more beginner friendly game entirely.
They dont want people to synergize builds. Its the only explanation I can come up with. With all the money they make from this game they should be able to hire more people to just work on QOL updates separately from the main dev team so their precious money farm doesn’t stop.
@@muysli.y1855 that is outside the game systems. You cant see your swfs perks unless they tell you. They clearly dont want normal people to always synergize their builds if they did they would’ve added this when they did the HUD changes which only happened because VHS pressured them by just showing us hey this is easily done and will improve your games.
Build 1. Use all 3 Dwight perks + Felix Richter's desperate measures. Build 2. botany knowledge + self care will make self healing a little faster than what it originally was before they nerfed self care & slowed it down; combine those 2 with buckle up & for the people... ... run right near the killer chasing the survivor & once the killer has knocked down a survivor, you will have enough time to use for the people to get them off the ground while the killer wipes their blade & you both will have endurance for 10 seconds. Build 3. Distortion + calm spirit which shuts down the doctor's shocks + shuts down the clown's gas because you won't scream for either... add both of those perks with any combination you feel like. It isn't that hard to still think of useful builds. You could combine plot twist, tenacity, botany knowledge & self care even. Try to think outside the box 👍 There is nothing funnier than watching a killer knock down a survivor, you get them up instantly with for the people, then the killer hits you or the other survivor but you both have endurance so don't fall down... which wastes more time & gives that extra time to those on gens 😌 If you're really bored then use blast mine to trap a gen & use red herring. You enter a locker which draws the killer to the trapt gen & they get stunned & blinded 😂 Which at that moment they realized you set them up to waste their time. If you want entertainment then also use wire tap sp you can see the killer (aura) & you along with other survivors can watch the killer get blown up 😂😂😂😂😂 Make your own entertainment 😌
I don't think most people know the history of the game. They basically hit the jackpot. Originally, the game was designed as a side game and not expected to be a hit. It was just a knock off that the devs thought people would play for a cheap thrill, while they were looking to develop a real title. But fate turned out. The game was a hit, surprising the devs. Years ago, they said it in their old live streams. It was a known thing. But, after they had a hit on their hands. They tried to balance it. But found out they couldn't. That's why the gave up, and only balance it around casuals. Otz knows this. I guess he was a dreamer (like we all were) and thought he could change their business model. But realizing now his mistake.
Wow i didn't know that! There's similar game to DBD that actually the original? Sorry if i ask but i don't know alot of games since I'm not an avid gamer.
I used to play on call with a friend who just cared for his own survival. No generators touched and being chased was "just throw down all the pallets immediately with windows of opportunity, no windows vaulted ever" and because he used bond, he would bring the killer on other survivors, injured or not, while we were healing each other, or while we were doing gens. Then the killer gets on us, we don't have any pallets left, and guess what....he doesn't touch a gen, because killers check on gens and he doesn't want to die... Sooo... And even after complaining to him about it several times he never changed. Everyone died and then he would go "beg" the killer to spare him, give him hatch or let him escape, all while farming each other for several minutes. So first he got me and the others killed and then he "forced" me to just watch him play/farm. Oh, and if the killer wouldn't spare him, he insulted them, called them names and reported them. Generally he would always report killers who killed him at any point of the match and no matter how many times i told him that was unacceptable he just kept on doing it. We're no longer friends, but i bet he still plays the same. Toxic guy.
Yeah, this game is just an addiction to me at this point. I’m having more miserable times and a lot of my games as survivor end with me just blank-faced and emotionless. Killer games just become way too overbearing, since I get more and more swf teams, despite the fact I try and play without any real gen regression, which leads to gen rushing and general frustrations as killer. No cheater situations really for me, which is good, but almost 2000 hours in the game and I barely get rewarded at all for it. After the Christmas event, I think I’m gonna step away for a while. Focus on other things and new games, for my sake.
Dude if I knew my teammates perks I feel like my third eye would open and I would understand my teammates actions more. I don’t understand how that could go back or be hard to implement. if it is you gotta fix all that spaghetti code plz
I would duck every Urban Evasion lobby that is why they won't show it because some people simply would not get to play the game because of how dumb they are.
Don't forget 1 week for 2 survor perks and 2 killer perks from the weekly well that you can buy with shards. Would be nice if they had more perks in rotation
They should just do away with weekly and let you get any non licensed perks with shards. There are soooo many perks in the game at this point that waiting for one you want for weeks on end is just such a terrible system.
I've gotten to the point where I am done. I started playing DBD with my husband back in 2019 - the ceiling to "get good" is quite high. You really can't just start playing and expect to know what's going on and do well. So we started watching Puppers and other steamers we liked and that's how I learned how to play. I still only play very casually and less and less frequently. But now we've entered a period where the developers just keep adding more. The game gets more and more complicated. I still don't understand how to play against certain killers & the only reason I sort of know is by watching Otz/Naymeti/Slate/etc. How can we ever expect someone to just pick up this game? Why keep adding more and more and making the game more complicated? I personally think the devs need to add different gamemodes or let me have the ability to choose a killer to not play against before queueing up. Idk, they need to do something different. I'm tired of having to keep up with all the new killers. I want to just play, know what's going on, and have fun. That's gone for me now. And I'm done.
As disappointing and heartbreaking it is to see Otz who genuinely cares more about DBD than BHVR feel so defeated by the apathy of the developers, it makes it clear that I as a player should have 0 expectations of the game to ever change in a meaningful way. I had hoped that we could maybe see a new game mode to bring much needed life into a game that hasn't changed its formula in 7 years. Not one alternate game mode ever. But now I know that will never happen rather than hold out hope that they care to listen to players.
The biggest problem with the game is BHVR doesn't want the headache of moderating in game text/voice chat so they balance the game with the idea of solo queue in mind. This leads to such a massive gap between solo and SWF that the game is near impossible to balance and leads to massive toxicity. If something tilts too much towards the survivors, SWF will run rampant and killers will get frustrated. If it tilts too much towards the killer, solo queue survivors will feel hopeless. As long as BHVR continues to stick their head in the sand and pretend Discord doesn't exist, things will never get better, and as the player count dwindles, the focus will continue to be on mtx to keep profits up and sunk cost fallacy players into sticking around. It's an ever accelerating death spiral.
About the "YEARS" discussion at 10:10, I'm a game developer and can 100% confirm it doesn't take years, even at a corporate level, to implement very minor features such as a bunch of icons that you can slide next to a survivor in the lobby or by hovering their names. So BHVR has either of these problems: a) their management sucks so much it takes forever to go through boring meetings to discuss every little detail b) they are simply incompetent and they literally program stuff via trial and error Given how weird and beginner-level most of their bugs are in general and how long it takes them to do *anything* whatsoever, I'd say it's more than likely both options. Anyways, that pretty much screams "we are not even remotely a game dev studio" if you ask me.
That's the thing isn't it? Back when they were "talking about removing perk tiers" they were making it out as though it's a huge ordeal to do that and people were defending them because we don't know the code. Bruh, literally all you have to do is set it where the moment you unlock a perks' Tier 1, it automatically unlocks the Tier 3. That's like maybe two hours worth of coding if the code is complete shit, like maybe 30 minutes if it's not. BHVR has 300 employees and you really have to wonder what the fuck any of them do all day
The limited perk access has really prevented me from changing the the steam platform from Xbox, since I have maybe 20 survivors and unlocked a few Killers. Starting all over again seems like torture...
I’m at 1.8k hours played and am 1 level away from getting the last character leveled to P3 to unlock their perks (every killer and survivor). 1.8k hours is kind of crazy still to unlock all the perks 😅
@mrpickles3 You could have chosen to not right a complete cunt of a reply as well but you decided to be exactly that and do exactly that. While I agree the community is toxic that is majority of games especially competitive games nowadays it's just a matter of what toxic you want to deal with. As for playing a "good game" as you stated, there hasn't been a single multiplayer game that's come out recently that I've seen that looks even remotely interesting. DBD is basically just a way to burn time at this point even more so since I barely play at all lately after all the recent updates/changes.
Biggest reason I stopped playing is how much they lean into the “fear of missing out” factor with skins and events and stuff. I used to buy the Christmas shirts for every single survivor but since they made them winter exclusives I completely stopped buying them. Will always love my experience with dbd but I’m done with the lack of transparency and attention to gamebdeaking bugs. Devs got way too greedy
39 survivors. Average 1.2 million bloodpoints for one prestige level = 46,800,000 bloodpoints to get Tier 1 on all teachable perks unlocked 34 killers = 40,800,000 bloodpoints for Tier 1 on all teachables = _87,600,000 bloodpoints for all characters._ Do with the math what you will
Late to the party (I just discovered you), but you had me at 27:37 - your input on negativity is spot-on! I feel like a lot of it has to do more with a lack of empathy (pun intended) by DBD players (especially the ones that only play one side) than anything else. It's a lot easier to blame the other side when you don't experience their point of view as well. I often advise people to try the other side as well. Just recently I had a recently discovered small streamer/acquientance that kept complaining on and on and on about how the game is extremely killer sided and just non-stop complaining while playing survivor, so I advised her to at least try playing killer as well. Important to note that she is quite new to the game, has around 150-200h I believe and did not understand why killer is "stronger" in a 1v1. So I had to explain that it's because the game is NOT a 1v1, but a 1v4 so of course the killer is going to down the survivor sooner or later. Obviously, this is just an example, but it goes both sides. I feel like people that only play one side should ALL at least try playing some matches on the other side (I'd even go as far as to say that they should play a bit more than just "some" matches, to understand the nuances as well). I think people who play or played both sides are generally more chill than those who play only one side. I also find it funny that generally the survivor mains are a lot more... let's just say vocal than the rest, but that may also have to do with the fact that the game is asymetric. This also goes waaaay back to a time before I even started playing, when the survivor rule book was first mentioned. Point being: it's just a game, not even a competitive one. Internet anonimity does not give you the right to just shit on people over a game. If you don't find it enjoying anymore, just move on. Or if you like it that much, but you just no longer enjoy it, give feedback to the devs whenever possible and take some breaks, hoping they will eventually act on the feedback from us. Maybe in a few YEARS :))
As for swfs vs solos. Whenever I play solo I bring bond, kindred, open handed, and windows of opportunity. All info perks just to keep track of my team and make decisions based on that. We can get more information without requiring coms.
I dunno who this guy is but I'm glad I watched. I'm glad they agreed with some stuff as someone who's clearly frustrated and done with DBD. I feel like A LOT A LOT of us are.
I don't want to sound rude, this is just an advice so take it like one. I think the main problem with players and content creators of this game is that they tend to approach it like a competitive/esport game and overthink/overanalize everything about it. I also stopped playing DBD for some years and just recently came back with a new attitude: this is not a competitive game, it doesn't want to be like one, it's a party game that people want to force into an esport because they are being too competitive and too prideful. Now that i can play this game like a funny survivor-killer simulator with jumpscares and stuff i'm having a more easier time and fun with my friends too, i also enjoyed the various improvements they made for soloQ and the nerf/buffs they did to still make the game more fun and balanced on the way. I think everybody is being too rude with the developers, please stop forcing the toxic competitive mentality into every game and trust me you won't burn out of them. Just my opinion too, worked for me. Have a good day and holidays everyone ✌✌✌
It's one thing to not want the game to be competitive, and I do get it. It's another thing to just want the spectating system in custom lobbies to work right after 7 and a half years, and to know what perks your teammates are using after 7 and a half years... it's ridiculous
@@tripleaaabattery8480 I really understand it would be a great thing to be able to do that for the few people who do it but as Otzdarva also said this is a problem for a minority of the people and since they don't really want to push the game to be an e-sport it's kinda just free work for them. You can try to suggest changings but at the end of the day people jobs depends on the game, they have limited budgets, they have problems we don't even know about, nobody should never shame other people for their work especially after all they have done for the game. They also accomodated the community many times like removing dead hard, sometimes these decisions can kill the player base and they can lose their job, they worked on the visual heartbeat for disabled people, HUD to make the game better, new content and events, can we really be that entitled at this point? We don't know how much work they have to do, again, their budget and everything, their problems, we can't be entitled to demand what we like like that, in my opinion of course.
I think you are missing the point with entire video. otz showed examples of issues that arent even comp related. Otz isnt frustated only on comp side, but rather BHVR poor replies to every type of player other than skins and other things like new chapters.
I already replied to the other friend down there but i will take time to do explain myself again: We don't know how much work they have to do, again, their budget and everything, their problems, we can't be entitled to demand what we like like that, in my opinion of course.@@abaddon_9941
I still kinda think Otz had a hand in nerfing Made for This because I didnt see anyone complaining about it until he started doing it, and the constant whining in the community was constant until it got nerfed.
When you were talking about people not helping teammates. I had a game quite a while ago. I was on hook and a solo team member was in a bush across from me. Did nothing to help me and watched me die. I asked them why and they said I didn’t help you so that I wouldn’t die When I pointed out the killer wasn’t even near me the said “sometimes you just gotta say fuck your team”
It's honestly not surprising, especially with the bullshit you endured from killers tunneling tf outta you( which is fine but feels awful) no gens popping, rescuing teammates but being left to die in the end, etc. The worse part? it's just bad luck sometimes. So understandably, this isnt about the team anymore.😓 it's a feels bad situation.
One of the biggest jokes in this game is the MMR. All you can see at the end is how many prestiges (if any) that character is. I play killer and survivor, and you can tell pretty quickly if the other players are good or garbage. All the devs have done is cover up the fact that their MMR is trash.
I love how the DBD dev post got downvoted to hell, and rightfully so. "Because new killers verse new survivors..." Are they for real? It is so easy to climb up the MMR ladder as a killer, You verse uncounterable SWF in no time... FU BHVR! And yes... Not all SWF are seal team 6, but the fact that we can still call them out from a solo lobby... says enough init? Even goofers I can tell apart easily from a solo lobby. The gap is MASSIVE. The problem is also that Solo q'ers can't communicate what challenge they are doing. SWF do... Challanges ruin the game for solo lobby... I see so many survivors throw the game for a challange, both as killer and as survivor. its friggin shit. The fact that even good guy Otz is gettin frustrated beyond reason, says enough. Im also pretty sure BHVR is just going for the cosmetics cash right now, add a character here and there... Cause those will bring in the cash. And as long as the player base does not go below a certrain treshold... Why would they waste time on improving it?
I really like dbd but the fact they aren't giving any solutions or asking for solutions or ideas just baffles me they clearly dont know their own game if they don't even know the direction they want to go in
The direction they want to go in is whatever makes ppl spend their $$ and keep interacting with the game. That is the only direction they care about pursuing.
uve just described EVERY COMPANY EVER... congradulations, companies only care about making money, keeping the consumer reasonably happy is just a biproduct of that endevour.... @@Atheta426
The longer DBD goes on, the more convinced I am that Behaviour tapped into an under-represented market and that most of their success was entirely by accident. It's very clear that they have people who are genuine fans of the slasher-killer horror movie genre and that they have some serious input on the map and killer design. But anything beyond that that goes into the actual crunch/balance of the game and quality-of-life experience? It's something they will only address when their proverbial balls are inches from the bandsaw or when some major problem personally impacts one of the developers. (see also why Flashlights were nerfed into the dirt until this year, or the disastrous New MMR Meta of late 2021-early 2022 that nearly killed the game outright)
9:00 Not to mention the killers you get when you start the game. I JUST got into the game on PC (I was a PS4 player for a long while), and I had only bought 2 DLC characters I played on PS4 to get me started. So the other killers I have access to? Wraith, Nurse, Hillbilly, Trapper, and Huntress. So 2 killers considered hard, especially for newer players. A medium difficulty killer, a useless killer (sorry Trapper), and Wraith. The only useful killer there is wraith. IMAGINE being a killer main who didn't purchase any DLC dude. So not only are they shitting on the general non-DLC playerbase by removing perks THEY NEED, but also they hardly give them anything to work with (for killer mains, sorry I don't play Surv much, I have no friends).
You get the top tier most OP killer when you start the game. You're completely wrong on that. On top of that, the other S-tier killer is easily obtainable with in-game currency. And the Nurse is not that hard, at least I can vouch for PC Nurse. I have 50 hours in this game, and I played only 3 matches as killer, they were 1 Billy, 1 Huntress and 1 Nurse. And the Nurse was by far the easiest. You immediately get the hang of her blink, it's far easier than Billy's chainsaw, for example. The only hard part is blinking in multi-storey buildings.
BHVR has a problem with only looking at numbers, and not the context of the numbers. The response regarding solo & SWF is a good example of this. I doubt that will change anytime soon, unfortunately.
I just started playing in September and I'm old enough to remember when most games were shovelware. With so many games being produced just to be abandoned, and so little transparency from big publishers I'm impressed by behavior, and I've enjoyed nearly every moment in this game. I really don't understand the frustration. A studio willing to do an AMA, on top of working on bug fixes/content on a consistent basis is a rarity these days. This community's problem is more about behavior having a pattern of delivering consistently. Not every month, or every year is going to have big content updates. 🙄
Otzdarva is a very positive, pleasant guy. He also is one of the best examples of why the community of this game actively ruins the game. Not because of toxicity, or actively engaging into unfair stuff like cheating - that, of course, IS harmful, but not to this extent. Not holding developers accountable, forgiving them and ignoring issues, on the other hand - isn't just harmful, it's atrocious. And for the developers such as BHVR who several times shown how they are willing to gimp free or already bought content to give a little bit of incentive to the "new" content, the devs who made monumentally bad technical updates, the devs who blatantly ignore community feedback and common sense for years, the devs who are unable to do ANYTHING to cheaters and to even protect the IP leak - yeah, that is something i just can't get behind of. Otz isn't a dumbass. He is the smart guy. That's why i so frustrated with his "overpositive" approach. Toxic positivity is a dumb concept, but it clearly is a thing when people defend corporations or any similar large, nameless entities. At least it seems like even he had enough. Not acknowledging himself to be a part of the problem is kinda sad, but i guess it's just a human nature. I've stopped playing this game for years now, and i've found there's plenty fish in the sea. And now, considering lethal company is on the rise - there's a great coop game to replace the DbD-shaped hole in your heart, too.
Of course the devs have ambitions for the game, wtf is everybody talking about? They added a battle-pass, premium currency, killers locked behind paywalls, and soon they're going to add evolving skins just like Fortnite. Their monetization is incredibly well thought out and makes them the most amount of money from the competitive whales still playing. Their monetization is very ambitious!
I still enjoy the game. For me, it’s one of those games that I’ll play intensely for a few months, then stop playing altogether besides major events like the Halloween event. I still think it’s fun, and although I don’t agree with the devs decisions, the community is genuinely never satisfied with anything they do. Every single time they make a change or are working on something, the community is mad about it. They literally put Alien and Chucky into the game where the community was praising the devs, and now we’re back to hating them. Play the game if you want, don’t play it if you don’t like it.
I stopped playing dbd over a year ago because of the lack of love from BOTH the Devs and the community but mostly the community, being called racist stuff in post lobby, being told to KYS, and having teammates either DCing or throwing the match by leading the killer, missing skill checks, or just being the annoying person that jumps in and out of windows or pallets....It's ridiculous that a game can house so many turds and still say it smells fine.
Watching the last survivor and the killer sometimes leaves you angry when you see them working together and then you remembered all those times when you and the last survivor was working on the same Gen only for her to stay on it as the killer only went after me. I have seen the survivors give away my location as they stand in front of the killer and point to me and the killer Leaves them and comes after me. I think when they work together like that we should be able to report them. I've never seen anyway where I can report them for that.
Last 4 matches I've played after 5 months of not playing was exactly what otz described. People cheating and not getting a single hit in. Then after a week break was several matches of swf just bullying me with stun and exhaustion recharged perks. Switch to survivor and all my team mates kill themselves/dc on first hook. The game just is not fun solo. I dont know If i just get back luck with match making or if this the experience of most players that dont post anything and just quit after several of those experiences.
they should've left billy the way he was originally, old spirit, old hatch, revert survivor and killer perks and addons. I hated the fact that they nerfed selfcare, bottany knowledge, boon circle of healing etc. 🤨
The idea is that the team isn't technically playing as a team. It's supposed to be 1v1, 1v1, 1v1, 1v1, all facing the killer but in a team fashion. So I understand why DBD wants to limit communication for that aspect but the problem is people just get into Discord and make 4 man SWF teams and harass killers.... So I would rather it be changed to a team facing the killer and maybe they introduce a solo que, duo que, and team que potential. Killers would just be adjusted to earn more MMR based on the overall team rating they're facing, with maybe compensating for a swf loss by not losing a drastic amount of elo or maybe having a tick foregiveness once per elo. Like a free loss at high elo. Just my input. Maybe doing it this way would make everyone happy, solo que would stay solo and communicationless. Duo and anything more would be expected teamwork play. Maybe make a symbol to show duos and teams for killers to see that they're facing a team. I think that could help.
Good idea if a Killer play against 4man it should get more MMR and against soloq less Or buff soloq to swf lvl and you can adjust/nerf/buff perks better without make the perk in soloq useless and swf broken.
Honestly I couldn’t stand playing killer after facing a good group every once in a while. It just bothered me in the end too much being „set up“ like that. If it was optional to choose to enter a match facing a full 4 man for more points or versing duos or solos for less I’d maybe have stuck out the killer career longer.
@@undeadwerewolves9463 yea I can see how it's easy to not want to play killer. I hope DBD fixes this issue sometime soon, I know they are at least working on Knight right now which is like my favorite killer to play atm.
To fix SWF? Just make it so that Discord is detected, or TeamSpeak, and if done so, the Killers can have an option to exclude people with active Discords off their matchmaking. But they won't do this, as SWF would only find the Killers who aren't easy to bully, and SWF cannot be mad else they won't pay for skins :(
ok, i dont know why YT recommended this video... but I applaud your stance on DbD. The only thing BHVR understands now, is money. Every time you click on that app, BHVR is earning money. If you want change to happen, stop playing the game. That "Q&A" basically proves the operate conditioning that BHVR is using... want change? stop playing.
I know what you saying about comms in dbd that info is strong and that whats makes swf stronger than solo BUT the reason they in comms with each other is because they are firends. SWF are not just 4 strangers who just decided to group up and play dbd. So what the devs are saying isnt really untrue. The reason why SFW are strong is bc they know each other and have a common goal and use comms to achieve that goal. Even if you add alot of info for solos or even a voice chat I honestly believe it would not change a thing. Strangers (esp on the internet) tend to not like to talk to or communicate with other strangers. Most ppl on the internet who play games by themselves are introverts. This is also true for other games, look at OW2. It has voice chat build in but NO ONE uses it. I been playing it for a year now and have never seen anyone in my matches even use voice chats or even text chat to do call outs. I honestly believe no amount of info will make the gap between SoloQ and SWF smaller no less close to each other. So this why I kinda see why the devs said what they said to that question. Do I agree with it? Not really I think info would still be nice to have(most just seeing a teammate's perks) but I dont think it will bridge the gap that is between solo and swf. As they said friends by nature will always work together better than 4 compete strangers.
just based on end game chat vulgairty, in game coms would not be good / ppl would stop using it.... just like a female talking in a cod lobby... they DONT... because its not worth the probabilty of toxicity...
@@daxx1985 Competely agree! Im competely against adding voice chat to dbd bc of that reason you just said. I just use it as a example bc its the main thing ppl ask for when they talk about adding things to make soloQ better.
its such a double edge sword and ppl dont see it, makes my head hurt... ppl constantly making utube vids about toxic streamers, and streamers are a smol portion of the playerbase, i cant immagine the vial shit ppl would say in open coms.... @@MrJP6389
unfortunately this game is already extremely toxic, it's not something you can get rid of, but you can try your best to play around it. I've played COD recently and still use VC and actually have met nice ppl, even tho the community has always been notoriously sexist (i sound very obviously like a girl)@@daxx1985
im glad 1 person dosen't have an issue.... thats what we call in the buisness anecdotal evidence... idk how this refutes my claim in any way, that coms would be AWFUL for the majority of ppl... @@marblelemonade76
It blows my mind that the devs dont even pay any attention to Otz’s ideas. Dude is an absolute genius and BHVR could use someone like Otz in their company to maintain the game’s health, balance, and enjoyment. It’s very evident that at the end of the day BHVR does not care about the community or it’s creators and is just constantly chasing a bigger bag instead of making the game more fun and enjoyable. Quite sad if I’m being completely honest
Solo Que is u bearable. I lost a game because I had no way to tell my teamates to help me on this one gen to prevent a 3 gen, I’ve lost games because maybe I know how to counter a killer and my team doesn’t. I couldn’t tell my teamates to not group up so legion doesn’t get easy health states. I can’t communicate which killer it is when I see them so my team is prepared to counter them. Especially on someone like myers. I can’t tell my team where totems are for a boon, or hexes so we can stop hex builds. I can’t tell my team where traps are, where not to go and I most importantly can’t coordinate saves. I can’t tell the random Dwight that’s gen rushing while two of our teamates are about to hit 2 to go save the other person while getting the other. I can’t tell my teamates lets go to boon cus it will cut our healing in half. I can’t tell them to crawl to boon so they can pick themself up out of dying state, I can’t tell them to let me bless the totem and not let them cleanse it cus I have something like overzealous or a boon. There are so many little things that build up to solo que being dysfunctional that coms or even just quicker communication. Like why can’t I throw up a little emote like in fortnite to communicate something. Why do I have to wait 3 seconds for a slow ass emote that my teammate might not even see to come up. If I die on pallet I can’t ask for save I just have to hope someone knows to do it
Where as with killer there is no communication barrier. Sure it’s rough starting out as killer but in 50 hours I’ll be getting 4ks easily because I’m the only one that has to learn from my mistakes I don’t have to account for the 30 different kinds of players and their builds which I again do not know.
Another thing, 1 survivor essentially throwing can prevent all 3 other players from escaping. That’s 1 less person to heal and do gens and more importantly hold the killers attention. If I can’t tell them to hide if they are on 2 or to not go somewhere because the killer patrols there often then we are going to lose and that’s happened so so many times
The 'years' timeline to add perks to the lobby is even more insane when you realize the cheating software already puts all that info on the loading screen. It's not like the data isn't there to make use of. It's purely just putting the data on the screen somewhere.
On a random note, technically this would probably be impossible, or near impossible to pull off, but I WISH there was an option or filter to choose which k!llers to face. I think a lot of people hook destruct because they are sick of getting some of the same k!llers. I can't stand The Plague, Trapper, and Skull Merchant the most. If I could filter who I got, I'd just set it to Ghostface, Michael, Wesker, Legion, Pyramid Head, and maybe one or two others. I just find those the most fun to go up against. Especially Ghostface, I loooove Ghostie, but his pick rate seems very low.
Honestly the obsession with skins and FOMO is an aspect im surprised isnt being mentioned much. Just trying to keep up with the rift as someone who played this game far too much was beginning to burn me out, let alone the flagrant lies and gaslighting of the incredibly arrogant dev team. Constant bad decisions that made the game much more difficult to have fun were a big factor and their resistance to change that disincentivised unhealthy play for either side. This community was bad and also a part of it, but honestly its not much worse than other online multiplayer games i play/ed. I more or less stopped playing around the time the clown got his rework. And each time i came back i couldn't believe how little has changed, even to this day. With both the community and just inherent gameplay problems that gatekeep fun.
bhvr always takes a long stupid time to make simple things. the hud system could and should have been implemented years before it actually did. it´s just like this to literally everything in the game, they are slow because they´re careless, and they can be careless cuz they got licenses and no competitors.
As a regular solo quer who runs plot twist and baby sitter on most my builds im feeling pretty attacked because depending on the team I may do any of these "toxic" or whatever actions so I can actually enjoy the game I feel like its hard enough to kill yourself on the first hook and every time I tried failed then stuck with the team I already could tell was doomed things play out the same so I just feel like people need to focus more on having fun and stop trying to be so Meta or picking one play style however you want to call it make dynamic builds and have fun help when you can and have fun always 😂
i agree with bhvr here. basically they are saying that if you want all those things you should just play swf. i honestly think it should be 2 diff game modes. swf and solo q. maybe solo q is easier for survivors and swf mode has a killer buff.
In any multiplayer game most people play “SoloQ”. You can’t force your friends to play a game they don’t want especially if they have different interest. Horrible way to balance a game. Either add a pin wheel and being able to see your teammates perks or just add voice chat for survivor. I have never heard of a multiplayer team based game not having any voice chat whatsoever
At least they should give a basekit debuff if there is 4 man swf like Tanatophobia -8% on repairing, healing, sabo action Duo -2% (2xDuo -4%) Trio -5% (The % can increase or decrease) This would nerf swf a bit but not harm soloq to much and the solo guy in a Trio Team have also small advantage in Healing/repairing
@@muysli.y1855 You’re punishing people for playing with friends. And most swfs don’t even sweat they fuck around. The probability of you encountering a 4 man that’s fully intent on doing gens asap is VERY low. Horrible idea
@@oscar3153 even if a swf is "just fucking around" they are still 100% stronger than solo q. it's not punishing ppl for playign with friends... it's balancing the game correctly based on how ppl play.
@@jnever9768 No they’re not lmfaoo. Theyre purposely not doing gens/sandbagging to get laughs. Not to mention most SWFS are garbage. SoloQ teammates that are actually component or better than a SWF who’s dicking around. Extremely easy to capitalize on their mistakes as they genuinely do not care weather they escape No you’re literally hindering people because they’re playing with their friends. By that logic an A+ tier killer should give survivors an increase in gen progression
Thanks for the video Fidget. I got burnt out on dbd mostly from the community as well. Its just been endless whining. I even came back multiple times just to here some man babies cry again. I will never understand the hate towards otz. I definitely disagree with him on some things but, I love other people sharing their thoughts. Also I know that 0.1% that isnt cool is me. Its because of my spirit too I bet
I agree with almost everything but when it comes to Lobby Perk icons? Helllllllllllll fucking no. Sure loading screen is fine but in the lobby? Absolutely not. Cause then you get people running meme builds, sub optimal, selfish builds, No perks or No Mither being practically unable to play the game cause they'll just be dodged over and over again. It's a nice idea don't get me wrong but not for the environment that is dbd outside of being able to see maybe your own swf perks.
I remember someone comparing playing this game to a toxic relationship Otz frustration would be one of the parties saying "I dont know if its worth it, I cant fix them" and thinking about ending it
Unfortunately this is the sorry state the game is in and I doubt it will ever change. There are two major issues with the game - The devs and the (majority of the) community. Don't get me wrong, there are great people who actually care about this game in the community, but the vast majority are toxic and are the same people who would dog pile someone who has good ideas for change. I was tempted to go back to playing DbD when Chucky was announced, but then I remembered who the devs are and what they care about, and also what most players are like in game.
To be fair, this game has been out for 7-8 years. Nothing lasts forever. But a guy like Otz is monetarily incentivized to want the game to last forever
basically it looks like they're going the overwatch route. forsake the gameplay, balance, and both the casual and competitve playerbases in the name of money. and it will work, because we live in a universe in which AAA games are products first, games second
I mean it works for the revenue. It works to squeeze the last few drops of juice from the lemon. But ask yourself, what happened to Overwatch 2? The same thing will eventually happen to DBD
I have less than 200 hours in dbd. Saying gen regression for new players isn't necessary is mind blowing. By 50 hours, I was struggling with stopping teams rushing gens down to the point I felt like I would have to spend money on killers to even compete. I would have a perk like deerstalker just to fill a spot because I only finished huntress on shared perks at the time. I quit playing 2 years ago and don't have any plans on coming back because how the game just feels like an exercise in struggling vs p2w.
"New killers are also up against new survivors" is just blatantly false. I got the game a week or two ago and I've been constantly facing survivors with 3000+ hours after the first 5 to 10 games I played as killer.
As someone who does dabble in code, by when they say "Flexibility in lobby screens" they are probably referring to the fact that the way it's coded at this moment doesn't allow that and therefore they are trying to recreate it from the ground up so they can in the future have that. Hence why they said "Over the next few years" as it's likely going to have to be gradual so that people can still play the game while they do it and ease into it rather than shutoff the game for a week or so while they grind out code just so a feature can be implemented. Yes Mobile DBD has this exact feature at least in the sense it shows your perks in loading to other survivors, but that's cause it was built able to do that from the ground up, they didn't have to recode an entire lobby screen just to implement a feature because they designed it better from the start. Also the whole "YEARS!!?" Reply is just gross, like they didn't say it'd take years, they said over the course of the following years, which means we could see the progression of it implemented in a few months but they don't expect it to be in the finished state for awhile. Which is fine because a lot of things in this game are like this in a way, simply having things like new modes being sort of implemented through the rift challenges is an example. It's an indie company focused on a lot of things, for them to say that they are working on it over the next few years is not them saying it won't be till 2028 that we get this feature.
I’ve left DBD for a couple years now, and I’ve said for a while that Otz’s intellect, analytical ability, and talent are wasted on a game like DBD. Gormless devs like BHVR do not deserve this attention.
I played this game in beta and onwards and i loved it i loved the idea i loved the community i loved every aspect of it even with the glitches and trolls and everything in between but i realized at some point along the way that it's resembling my experience with my main game that i spent thousands of hours on that caught my heart the same way dbd did and just as quick, i saw the decline slowly but surely but i still gave the the benefit of the doubt since they aren't like that one company with that one game, and then it was all but confirmed it, was going the same exact way, and i discovered that this community specifically is so special than the rest to the point where the majority are casuals to gaming overall and this either started it for them or it became their only love out of all the video games, and i realized that bc that is the case they don't know how it usually goes. When devs make these kind of mistakes consistently even with their initial success which is supposed to be a boost and i don't just mean profit kind of success, when that happens it is all over and it'll just go through this weird milking the players while not giving any fucks about the actual state of the game kind of phase and the OGs who are still in denial are falling for it. The game i was talking about was For Honor and the company is ubisoft btw. If you want another shitshow of game development you also got that absolute dumpster fire of a game. ESSENTIALLY what i'm saying is i've seen this exact pattern before it's already over they are killing the game subconsciously they're just taking it slow, stop giving a fuck and go try something else cuz those mfs don't deserve anymore care from anybody that does.
Both are great videos and I think echoes how alot of DbD community feel about the game. I stopped playing cause it just wasn't fun anymore with how toxic survivors were. Rather spend my time with a game I actually enjoy. Great video Fidget!!!
This AMA convinced me to play Baldur's Gate 3 instead of DbD, so as far as i'm concerned? Good job devs, this is so much more fun than your shite game.
I think Otz misunderstood the answer about the gap between solo queue and swf. BHVR wasn't saying that solo queue survivors are lone wolves that don't care and that's a problem. Essentially what they were saying is that the problem doesn't lie with solo queue having too little info, it lies with swfs having too much. In other words, think of your average solo queue match- that's how BHVR thinks it should be to play as survivor.
Yea I honestly feel like a typical solo q match is deemed okay to BHVR. They want the kill rates to be better than escape rates imo because you need killers for the game to function optimally. I’m a survivor main who finds playing killer very boring , so I want the ppl who play killer to play the game. However, there’s nothing BHVR can do to control swfs on comms. My problem is, even if it is 4 solo players who play well together, the killer always assume its a swf on comms … which still breeds toxicity and killers complaining (I’ve seen it). So realistically, if everyone who played survivor played as a team with similar skill and unselfishly sacrificed themselves like swfs do on comms, most killers would be frustrated. So anything to even remotely help solo q players synergize with other solo players would lead to more toxicity from the other side, more complaints, more problems to address . We’re past the point of no return unfortunately
Otz doesn't have an evil bone in his body. He's a very special and rare breed on this platform; extremely caring, humble, and genuine. The way a minority of people talk about and treat him is unfair, but also not unexpected. It's just a symptom of how the devs have betrayed their community, and people are looking for a face to blame.
I know it's their game, but the devs are wrong about so much in this game. How can you be so unaware and wrong about your own game? It's almost like they don't play it themselves.
Just wanted to clarify potential confusion. You might still catch a DBD stream here and there on my Twitch channel as a lot of my audience still enjoys watching me play it. But there won't be new DBD content created for RUclips/TikTok etc. I'll be creating Variety content/discussions going forward. And as we (hopefully) start to find that new Variety audience, you'll see less and less DBD on Twitch as well. I feel I have a lot more to offer as a content creator than just focusing on one game, as I just love talking about gaming and entertainment in general ❤
Im hope you feel good with this decision
Relax
The fact the devs said we’re going to be able to “upgrade” our skins is so ridiculous. They said recently they won’t make a p100 cosmetic cuz they don’t want people missing out meanwhile everything is locked behind a paywall?
While I understand this frustration I think I understand where the devs are coming from. The grind to p100 is a long grind and having a reward for it promotes grinding for it and if people who want to collect everything has an unimaginable grind ahead compared to a crazy amount of money
@@E_2the_mma very true but i just think it’s odd they say they don’t want to leave ppl out while leaving ppl out with limited cosmetics and stuff like that. But yea I agree p100 grind is insane lol
Over 200 days and a p100. 3000 escapes and 1800 kills
@@E_2the_mmaand? 😅
@@E_2the_mmaTHEY’RE LEAVING OUT THEIR MOST DEVOTED PLAYERS!!!
This AMA did a great job highlighting why I stopped playing DbD about a year and a half ago and have no desire whatsoever to return.
This game isn't just a rudderless ship, it's a ship captained by a crew who've never been out to sea.
deep
AHAHAHAAH its not that deep bro
@@milansoos7837 what exactly is deep about that comment? are you stupid?
Nice analogy
I stopped playing for about a year because of all the BS. I'd like to think it's better now than it was, but there are still a lot of problems that they refuse to fix.
Here's the summary of the Q&A "We're improving ways to easily get money out of you, but we're too lazy to improve the gaming experience"
This game has always had horrible monetization, but this is ridiculous.
Not always. The cosmetic shop was only added a couple years ago actually, but the moment it DID het added I saw the writing on the wall and stopped playing and I have heard nothing but b****ing about the game ever since. Don't get me wrong, DBD is RIFE with amateur developmental errors and mistakes that should have never been a thing and their team is too big and has too much money now to justify the snails pace they take to these things. In fact, I think the game fundamentally needs to be changed because nothing about its current design is actually fun; players literally have to seek the Killer out because it's the only time the game is interesting and the Killers play less like they are trying to KILL people and more like they are trying to catch a bunch of naughty children at a daycare.
The microtransactions though?
They started with the usual routes, then they added battle passes, then they added prestige items and timed additions to create a sense of FOMO AKA Fear of Missing Out. And just recently RETROACTIVELY bundled all of the Killer DLC's just so you have to pay MORE if you want a single Killer... All while removing old items like Shards which used to let you take Killers for a test drive before buying them. This stuff is objectively predatory on the consumer, but gets worse when you realize they never stop excusing themselves and their slow production with "We are working hard and are so busy" and then pop out cosmetics at 4 times the rate of ACTUAL content updates. This game, by the way, is not FREE and didn't used to be on certain platforms. There isn't a justification for this, people had been buying this game at FULL PRICE for years beforehand and then they retrofitted it into a "F2P" microtransaction game... While making sure not to kiss their chance to make it more woke and change old characters like David King into things they were never designed to be.
I don't know why some people are so ardent about defending Behavior. They are an AWFUL company.
Yeah! We should get icons to let us know what team mates are doing!! Oh, wait....
Well they should rework hemorrhage to be actually useful! ... Oh wait....
Well they should give weaker killers like Trapper, Legion and Ghostface buffs!... oh wait.
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I love how the q&a was basically just "yeah so we dont give a fuck about the problems with the game but hey! Who's ready for the new skins?"
Priority on skins and easy ways to make more money - yes. Priority on improving gameplay - hell no. BHVR in a nutshell.
Every live service in a nutshell.
Yeah fr they’re killin the game
Honestly, instead of globally shared
At this stage, each player should get their own set per weak, but make it so that any perk that is already unlocked for all characters is OUT of the rotation, so you get better and more chances for perks you want
Omg it's crazy how the community has not changed since I've last played. I started playing DBD back in 2017 on ps4. I played it until 2020. I have a total of 1,643 hours on the game. I loved DBD when I played it but I quit for one specific reason which I see is still a problem today, the community. I played as a survivor main and was a runner, I understood the frustration of being a killer and a survivor so when I played killer I played as fair as I could. No tunneling, no camping the hook, and flat out ignoring people I just hooked to go for another person. Yet even if I did play fair like that win or lose I'd get a message from people saying how trash I was and how good they were and how I'm toxic and their reporting me, etc. It was every match whether killer or survivor I'd get a message on my play style. The last chapter I played was the beginning of cursed legacy and then I shortly quit after that and have no plans of coming back to the game due to the communitys hostility toward other players.
I think I quite about right at the time I had some loser spamming messages because I didn't let him escape. He said he wanted to 1v1 me and that he'd loop me for hours at basement.
Like wtf, this isn't call of duty. Why would I do that?
I have only been playing since the beginning of this year, and the dark side of the community is the main problem with the game, for sure. My favorite is just playing customs with people I know, solo que is brutal, and playing k!ller can be especially frustrating. I'm a survivor main, but dabble with Ghostface. I do well with him, but survivors AND killer players alike can be nasty. Who you get in a match makes or breaks it.
Well, either I'm just getting lucky or maybe my rank just filter out the toxic players because I haven't seen any toxic messages in post game chat in a while. People just say "GG" and move on
@@zaer-ezart Yea, I have 5200 hours in the game and play killer very fairly. 95% of my games it was either nothing in the chat or ggs.
@@zaer-ezart How many hours are you at in the game? It took a few months of playing for this to start to happen, for me at least.
this is the phase in dbd content creators we call "the truetalent" phase, where you become numb to the nonsense the developers pull and just nod your head saying................. "yeh, sure" lol
im just glad otz isnt makeing utube vids about broken shit, hes not the only one, but its a problem with utube, ppl follow the meta, they look to ppl like otz for the meta, instead of ppl building builds they like, they follow otz's build and thats all you see.. its dogshit, i know his intention is to help but it was making shit worse....
@@daxx1985nah I follow King wolf or tournament players builds. Not otz's
wait.. who? @@knightsofsumeria
The thing is, a player in any game looking for meta builds will always find it whether the person gets it from a content creator, another player in game, forums, or tournaments.
The responsibility to this issue lies on the developers to control and manage the "Meta" so that no handful of builds will perform exponentially better than other builds. A way to do this is magnify the issue, so the developers prioritize the problem and fix it, so the player base calms down, spends money and time into the game, and doesn't scare off new players.
searching through a reddit, or talking to someone else... TAKES EFFORT... utubers fall over themselves to be the 1st one out the gate with the new meta build... THATS THE ISSUE.... it takes them 6 months to nurf metas... it takes 1 day of changes for a new meta to be showcased... @@Mr._Idiot440
Sometimes I think about how amazing DBD could be if it was run by competent developers and then I get sad. BHVR are talentless and money-hungry. The fact that every other game they've tried making has failed only proves my point.
Im sad it took 7 years for most broader players to finally see how fucking horrible this company is, their game was simply doomed to die in 2016 if they never got the michael myers keys to jingle
@@HockeyM.M.Lazy as fuck they don't add a single new game mode for over 7 years😂😂😂
@@HockeyM.M. They only survived because they got 1) Licensed dlc and 2) Absolutly no capable competition.
@@HockeyM.M.i’d argue it was moving to console which made it survive. Also done recently before the myers release
I don't know what you mean, i think they have done a good job so far. And yes, it's been a long time to get this far...but I'll say again, they done a pretty good job from where it all started.
Otz has always had some of the best videos highlighting how good or bad perks or Killer add-ons can be and the fact that some of the community dogpiles on him when something is changed is awful. He has said multiple times that his input has never been considered multiple times even though he's a Fog Whisperer. Gonna miss his educational videos.
Yes and no because sometimes I don't agree with what he says, he thinks Save the Best for Last needs to be change which I highly disagree.
@@I-need-2-win its need changes but in my opinion from 8 stacks to 6. because we have now free 2 stacks.
@@I-need-2-win Understandable, and you're partially right but it needs to be disabled at endgame at camping. Like Off the Record, DS because current Save the Best can be used like old DS just makes/made a lose-lose uncounterable situation for the opponent side.
@@bierchen8863 I disagree on that. It can come in clutch in certain situations
@@benfowler5258 I also disagree on that. I just don't think it'll be a good idea.
Anyone painting Otzdarva as some villain is worse than the devs who seem out of touch or detached from the community
Ur kidding they got more connection to there community than most now a days
@@eggmin8967 ???
@@Knightfaller mojang and a couple others have been
Listening less and less
@@eggmin8967 wtf? my guy this is dbd made by behavior (BHVR). This is not minecraft which is made by Mojang and then acquired by Microsoft.
@@Knightfaller u didn't get the first thing I said other game devs listen to there community less than bhvr
The Otzdarva hatred reminds me of Xmen. There's a line that Magneto says when a mutant on his team bad mouths Xavier. Otzdarva has done more for dbd than anyone. The devs are feeling that late stage capitalism. Why care anymore, our overlords wants us to just let the game drain as much money as possible. No care, just money.
There are investors to please, man!
"Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you will ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live."
Lmfao no. Just no.
the shareholders need their hard earned money back
Devs were always like this, they literally told you to play a different game before lol
I don't really watch Otz, but this is really sad. I feel so bad about how this community treats him. I don't understand why he is blamed for this stuff? He seems so wholesome and only seems to want the best for the community. I don't always agree with perk changes, but I definitely have never thrown a fit over it. I've had a lot of negative interaction in this community - from slurs being hurled at me disguised behind a letter, to getting mad over choices I made that didn't end up effecting anyone else in my matches. I don't have much experience with online games, so it was jarring. But, as patient as I am, I'm starting to not want to play the game much anymore - mostly due to the community. It's so negative and it frustrates me.
facts =/
Dude has money. He'll be aight.
Yeah, for as much as the devs don’t seem to care about the game, the community is just as much of a deterrent.
Welcome to the real world where 99% of people are just mentaly deficient and even tho they have a brain in their cranium they can't for the fuck of it figure out how to use it...
You gotta play with friends at first. That is the only way I actually enjoyed this game, and even after when I play killer
the disconnect between the devs and the game is so crazy.
Dbd is what I call a closed door game. The only players left are your hard-core fans and those who show up for the events. Just like rocket league, the skill and time gap is so large that new players don't tend to stay, and I think the games pop cycles year over year show exactly that, unfortunately the game will remain this way until some really massive changes are made to the game and how it works.
I started playing in July and I'm still very much loving the game. If anything the old guard with leaves and newer players will take their spots. Otz offers no actual solutions to his complaints. One of the reasons I never watched him because he was just constantly and consistently complaining. At the end of the day Behavior will do what they want. The beauty is people don't have to stick around and play.
@@JerseyHilaritytrue
@@JerseyHilarity otz complaints to better the community as a whole and with guides helps new players, i understand he can come off as negatives but that just show how much he cares about the game and community.
@@mockquia7479 no, it doesn't. He's one of the reasons why the community is so negative in the first place. He has this massive voice in the community and if all he does is complain, with little to no positivity, that is what will fester.
As a newerish player myself I never once watched any of his guides. I learned from simply playing. And what I did watch was from much smaller DBD content creators who are way more positive, but don't have the reach Otz does.
Thats why i think multiplyer games should mostly have a 2-3 year run and then die, when you make a game everchanging live service its easy to get everything jumbled up and have large gaps between the community. I kinda miss when every multiplayer game wasnt live service with skin shops and battlepasses and built to last a decade... until like 3 years ago i remember them to be short time flings, now every mp game wants to be your only game
My big problem with DBD is that I feel like the devs are more focused on the rift and skins more than the gameplay and quality of life improvements. I find this to be a big problem in gaming in general now a days especially with COD. To be honest I would rather have an amazingly balanced game with a $50 DLC season pass that allows you to get everything for free during its life cycle rather than a live service game that could shut down at any moment focused on micro transactions and not actual gameplay
Warframe gives free DLC and 99% of everything is earnable in-game.
After they reverted the accessibility aid from Spine Chill, I tweeted at them to explain that Spine Chill's red meter helped far more than the heartbeat for some people, such as myself, a person with audio processing issues. Again, I was trying to discuss accessibility and how they should reconsider reverting Spine Chill, even though they had always intended for the Terror Radius aspect to be temporary, because it helped people to better play the game... And someone responded, saying that the devs don't care because the game is Killer sided. I can't stress enough how I don't give a shit about that, I'm trying to be able to just play the game.
killer sided lol. the game is so faaaar from killer sided it is laughable. i think solo q players think it is killer sided. but if you have ever played against a normal swf you know the game becomes survivor sided by far.
@@jnever9768 Except SWF are a minority. Solo Qs are the majority of the game and yet the game isnt balanced on their side so yeah, pretty killer sided
In my opinion the game isn't sided in any way, just watch Otzdarva's video proving that the game is not survivor sided or killer sided. @@diamondruby7257
@@diamondruby7257if it was balanced for soloq, killer would be literally unplayable, this game is fundamentally not killer sided, its a 4v1
It's killer sided at low mmr. I used to think it was killer sided all the way up until they made the mmr strict. I went from consistently getting 3ks to struggling for a draw. Killer experience sucks lately but on the other side solo queqe isn't much fun either😂
BHVR only loves the kids that steal and swipe dad's credit card to buy all the "cool" skins while bullying killers with their friends. The gap between SWF and solo survivor is so huge and never been addressed in the years I've been playing. I'm amazed the game has not lost more people.
Honestly, I play a lot of games and a lot of those are multiplayer. DBD has, legitimately, one of the absolute worst communities I’ve seen from any game in ages. And that’s sad, because between the seemingly careless developers and the breeding toxicity, I fear a good game is going to die off terribly.
Not as long as something doesn't come along, that scatches that gameplay itch. Which is a big ask by now, since DBD is like a Royal Rumble of horror icons in it's genre, which it almost wholly fills out all alone. It has such a powerful stranglehold over this niche, that I don't see it going anywhere. I really don't see the room for all the doom and gloom.
Trust me, I actually hope you are right. I just fear that considering they do not make it easy at all on new players to learn the game, but most of the community actively tries to harass said new (and older) players. It’s getting generally off putting. The horror icons help and definitely keep people around. I just feel that the odds are starting to stack against them, as we see more and more people leaving due to reasons similar to what is explained in the video. And on top of that, new players getting frustrated and getting into a different, more beginner friendly game entirely.
I dare say it, the LoL community is less toxic than the DbD community
The DBD community makes the For Honor community look like intellectuals.
This game isn’t good stop smoking crack
They dont want people to synergize builds. Its the only explanation I can come up with. With all the money they make from this game they should be able to hire more people to just work on QOL updates separately from the main dev team so their precious money farm doesn’t stop.
Swf:
@@muysli.y1855 that is outside the game systems. You cant see your swfs perks unless they tell you. They clearly dont want normal people to always synergize their builds if they did they would’ve added this when they did the HUD changes which only happened because VHS pressured them by just showing us hey this is easily done and will improve your games.
Build 1. Use all 3 Dwight perks + Felix Richter's desperate measures.
Build 2. botany knowledge + self care will make self healing a little faster than what it originally was before they nerfed self care & slowed it down; combine those 2 with buckle up & for the people...
... run right near the killer chasing the survivor & once the killer has knocked down a survivor, you will have enough time to use for the people to get them off the ground while the killer wipes their blade & you both will have endurance for 10 seconds.
Build 3. Distortion + calm spirit which shuts down the doctor's shocks + shuts down the clown's gas because you won't scream for either... add both of those perks with any combination you feel like.
It isn't that hard to still think of useful builds.
You could combine plot twist, tenacity, botany knowledge & self care even.
Try to think outside the box 👍
There is nothing funnier than watching a killer knock down a survivor, you get them up instantly with for the people, then the killer hits you or the other survivor but you both have endurance so don't fall down... which wastes more time & gives that extra time to those on gens 😌
If you're really bored then use blast mine to trap a gen & use red herring. You enter a locker which draws the killer to the trapt gen & they get stunned & blinded 😂
Which at that moment they realized you set them up to waste their time.
If you want entertainment then also use wire tap sp you can see the killer (aura) & you along with other survivors can watch the killer get blown up 😂😂😂😂😂
Make your own entertainment 😌
@@MrVariable what?
I don't think most people know the history of the game. They basically hit the jackpot. Originally, the game was designed as a side game and not expected to be a hit. It was just a knock off that the devs thought people would play for a cheap thrill, while they were looking to develop a real title. But fate turned out. The game was a hit, surprising the devs. Years ago, they said it in their old live streams. It was a known thing. But, after they had a hit on their hands. They tried to balance it. But found out they couldn't. That's why the gave up, and only balance it around casuals. Otz knows this. I guess he was a dreamer (like we all were) and thought he could change their business model. But realizing now his mistake.
Wow i didn't know that! There's similar game to DBD that actually the original? Sorry if i ask but i don't know alot of games since I'm not an avid gamer.
I used to play on call with a friend who just cared for his own survival. No generators touched and being chased was "just throw down all the pallets immediately with windows of opportunity, no windows vaulted ever" and because he used bond, he would bring the killer on other survivors, injured or not, while we were healing each other, or while we were doing gens. Then the killer gets on us, we don't have any pallets left, and guess what....he doesn't touch a gen, because killers check on gens and he doesn't want to die... Sooo... And even after complaining to him about it several times he never changed. Everyone died and then he would go "beg" the killer to spare him, give him hatch or let him escape, all while farming each other for several minutes. So first he got me and the others killed and then he "forced" me to just watch him play/farm. Oh, and if the killer wouldn't spare him, he insulted them, called them names and reported them. Generally he would always report killers who killed him at any point of the match and no matter how many times i told him that was unacceptable he just kept on doing it. We're no longer friends, but i bet he still plays the same. Toxic guy.
Yeah, this game is just an addiction to me at this point. I’m having more miserable times and a lot of my games as survivor end with me just blank-faced and emotionless. Killer games just become way too overbearing, since I get more and more swf teams, despite the fact I try and play without any real gen regression, which leads to gen rushing and general frustrations as killer. No cheater situations really for me, which is good, but almost 2000 hours in the game and I barely get rewarded at all for it. After the Christmas event, I think I’m gonna step away for a while. Focus on other things and new games, for my sake.
Please do, I just got back from one and im thinking about walking away longer. Let’s pray this game gets better 😢
Use gen regression bro there’s nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong with gen rushing or tunneling either. It’s a pvp game. Win.
Dude if I knew my teammates perks I feel like my third eye would open and I would understand my teammates actions more. I don’t understand how that could go back or be hard to implement. if it is you gotta fix all that spaghetti code plz
They can literally put the "Loadout Menu" from the custom lobbys but they can't be edited.
I would duck every Urban Evasion lobby that is why they won't show it because some people simply would not get to play the game because of how dumb they are.
@@SurvivalHorrorEntertainmentgood, I don’t want to play with room temperature iq players.
Me with Delivernce in soloq sometimes rlly frustating
@@SurvivalHorrorEntertainment spotted mental weak player
Don't forget 1 week for 2 survor perks and 2 killer perks from the weekly well that you can buy with shards. Would be nice if they had more perks in rotation
Agreed, maybe like 3 perks for both sides, so it's 6 perks in total you can buy in the store.
They should just do away with weekly and let you get any non licensed perks with shards. There are soooo many perks in the game at this point that waiting for one you want for weeks on end is just such a terrible system.
Hot Take:
Reddit AMAs are actually just company staff manufactured questions, with little to none real questions from the audience.
I've gotten to the point where I am done. I started playing DBD with my husband back in 2019 - the ceiling to "get good" is quite high. You really can't just start playing and expect to know what's going on and do well. So we started watching Puppers and other steamers we liked and that's how I learned how to play. I still only play very casually and less and less frequently.
But now we've entered a period where the developers just keep adding more. The game gets more and more complicated. I still don't understand how to play against certain killers & the only reason I sort of know is by watching Otz/Naymeti/Slate/etc. How can we ever expect someone to just pick up this game? Why keep adding more and more and making the game more complicated? I personally think the devs need to add different gamemodes or let me have the ability to choose a killer to not play against before queueing up. Idk, they need to do something different. I'm tired of having to keep up with all the new killers. I want to just play, know what's going on, and have fun. That's gone for me now. And I'm done.
As disappointing and heartbreaking it is to see Otz who genuinely cares more about DBD than BHVR feel so defeated by the apathy of the developers, it makes it clear that I as a player should have 0 expectations of the game to ever change in a meaningful way. I had hoped that we could maybe see a new game mode to bring much needed life into a game that hasn't changed its formula in 7 years. Not one alternate game mode ever.
But now I know that will never happen rather than hold out hope that they care to listen to players.
The biggest problem with the game is BHVR doesn't want the headache of moderating in game text/voice chat so they balance the game with the idea of solo queue in mind.
This leads to such a massive gap between solo and SWF that the game is near impossible to balance and leads to massive toxicity. If something tilts too much towards the survivors, SWF will run rampant and killers will get frustrated. If it tilts too much towards the killer, solo queue survivors will feel hopeless.
As long as BHVR continues to stick their head in the sand and pretend Discord doesn't exist, things will never get better, and as the player count dwindles, the focus will continue to be on mtx to keep profits up and sunk cost fallacy players into sticking around.
It's an ever accelerating death spiral.
I hate grinding hours and hours just to get the perks I think are fun. Also what is the shrine of secrets? Is the secret that's is shit?
Byeeee lmaooo
About the "YEARS" discussion at 10:10, I'm a game developer and can 100% confirm it doesn't take years, even at a corporate level, to implement very minor features such as a bunch of icons that you can slide next to a survivor in the lobby or by hovering their names. So BHVR has either of these problems:
a) their management sucks so much it takes forever to go through boring meetings to discuss every little detail
b) they are simply incompetent and they literally program stuff via trial and error
Given how weird and beginner-level most of their bugs are in general and how long it takes them to do *anything* whatsoever, I'd say it's more than likely both options. Anyways, that pretty much screams "we are not even remotely a game dev studio" if you ask me.
That's the thing isn't it? Back when they were "talking about removing perk tiers" they were making it out as though it's a huge ordeal to do that and people were defending them because we don't know the code.
Bruh, literally all you have to do is set it where the moment you unlock a perks' Tier 1, it automatically unlocks the Tier 3. That's like maybe two hours worth of coding if the code is complete shit, like maybe 30 minutes if it's not.
BHVR has 300 employees and you really have to wonder what the fuck any of them do all day
The limited perk access has really prevented me from changing the the steam platform from Xbox, since I have maybe 20 survivors and unlocked a few Killers. Starting all over again seems like torture...
You really only need to buy artist clown and then whatever killer u main
I’m at 1.8k hours played and am 1 level away from getting the last character leveled to P3 to unlock their perks (every killer and survivor). 1.8k hours is kind of crazy still to unlock all the perks 😅
@mrpickles3 You could have chosen to not right a complete cunt of a reply as well but you decided to be exactly that and do exactly that. While I agree the community is toxic that is majority of games especially competitive games nowadays it's just a matter of what toxic you want to deal with. As for playing a "good game" as you stated, there hasn't been a single multiplayer game that's come out recently that I've seen that looks even remotely interesting. DBD is basically just a way to burn time at this point even more so since I barely play at all lately after all the recent updates/changes.
I mean, he is not wrong. 1.8k hours for a shit game is really a massive waste of time. And this game is shit. @@slayedslyr
Biggest reason I stopped playing is how much they lean into the “fear of missing out” factor with skins and events and stuff. I used to buy the Christmas shirts for every single survivor but since they made them winter exclusives I completely stopped buying them.
Will always love my experience with dbd but I’m done with the lack of transparency and attention to gamebdeaking bugs. Devs got way too greedy
I agree with seeing the builds in the lobby, would incentives me to switch my perks up far more often
39 survivors. Average 1.2 million bloodpoints for one prestige level = 46,800,000 bloodpoints to get Tier 1 on all teachable perks unlocked
34 killers = 40,800,000 bloodpoints for Tier 1 on all teachables
= _87,600,000 bloodpoints for all characters._ Do with the math what you will
Late to the party (I just discovered you), but you had me at 27:37 - your input on negativity is spot-on! I feel like a lot of it has to do more with a lack of empathy (pun intended) by DBD players (especially the ones that only play one side) than anything else. It's a lot easier to blame the other side when you don't experience their point of view as well. I often advise people to try the other side as well.
Just recently I had a recently discovered small streamer/acquientance that kept complaining on and on and on about how the game is extremely killer sided and just non-stop complaining while playing survivor, so I advised her to at least try playing killer as well. Important to note that she is quite new to the game, has around 150-200h I believe and did not understand why killer is "stronger" in a 1v1. So I had to explain that it's because the game is NOT a 1v1, but a 1v4 so of course the killer is going to down the survivor sooner or later.
Obviously, this is just an example, but it goes both sides. I feel like people that only play one side should ALL at least try playing some matches on the other side (I'd even go as far as to say that they should play a bit more than just "some" matches, to understand the nuances as well).
I think people who play or played both sides are generally more chill than those who play only one side. I also find it funny that generally the survivor mains are a lot more... let's just say vocal than the rest, but that may also have to do with the fact that the game is asymetric. This also goes waaaay back to a time before I even started playing, when the survivor rule book was first mentioned.
Point being: it's just a game, not even a competitive one. Internet anonimity does not give you the right to just shit on people over a game. If you don't find it enjoying anymore, just move on. Or if you like it that much, but you just no longer enjoy it, give feedback to the devs whenever possible and take some breaks, hoping they will eventually act on the feedback from us. Maybe in a few YEARS :))
As for swfs vs solos. Whenever I play solo I bring bond, kindred, open handed, and windows of opportunity. All info perks just to keep track of my team and make decisions based on that. We can get more information without requiring coms.
I dunno who this guy is but I'm glad I watched. I'm glad they agreed with some stuff as someone who's clearly frustrated and done with DBD. I feel like A LOT A LOT of us are.
I don't want to sound rude, this is just an advice so take it like one. I think the main problem with players and content creators of this game is that they tend to approach it like a competitive/esport game and overthink/overanalize everything about it. I also stopped playing DBD for some years and just recently came back with a new attitude: this is not a competitive game, it doesn't want to be like one, it's a party game that people want to force into an esport because they are being too competitive and too prideful. Now that i can play this game like a funny survivor-killer simulator with jumpscares and stuff i'm having a more easier time and fun with my friends too, i also enjoyed the various improvements they made for soloQ and the nerf/buffs they did to still make the game more fun and balanced on the way. I think everybody is being too rude with the developers, please stop forcing the toxic competitive mentality into every game and trust me you won't burn out of them. Just my opinion too, worked for me. Have a good day and holidays everyone ✌✌✌
It's one thing to not want the game to be competitive, and I do get it.
It's another thing to just want the spectating system in custom lobbies to work right after 7 and a half years, and to know what perks your teammates are using after 7 and a half years... it's ridiculous
@@tripleaaabattery8480
I really understand it would be a great thing to be able to do that for the few people who do it but as Otzdarva also said this is a problem for a minority of the people and since they don't really want to push the game to be an e-sport it's kinda just free work for them. You can try to suggest changings but at the end of the day people jobs depends on the game, they have limited budgets, they have problems we don't even know about, nobody should never shame other people for their work especially after all they have done for the game. They also accomodated the community many times like removing dead hard, sometimes these decisions can kill the player base and they can lose their job, they worked on the visual heartbeat for disabled people, HUD to make the game better, new content and events, can we really be that entitled at this point? We don't know how much work they have to do, again, their budget and everything, their problems, we can't be entitled to demand what we like like that, in my opinion of course.
I think you are missing the point with entire video. otz showed examples of issues that arent even comp related. Otz isnt frustated only on comp side, but rather BHVR poor replies to every type of player other than skins and other things like new chapters.
I already replied to the other friend down there but i will take time to do explain myself again: We don't know how much work they have to do, again, their budget and everything, their problems, we can't be entitled to demand what we like like that, in my opinion of course.@@abaddon_9941
Nope, even if you are aware that the game is not competitive is still awful
I still kinda think Otz had a hand in nerfing Made for This because I didnt see anyone complaining about it until he started doing it, and the constant whining in the community was constant until it got nerfed.
Good
When you were talking about people not helping teammates. I had a game quite a while ago. I was on hook and a solo team member was in a bush across from me. Did nothing to help me and watched me die. I asked them why and they said I didn’t help you so that I wouldn’t die
When I pointed out the killer wasn’t even near me the said “sometimes you just gotta say fuck your team”
It's honestly not surprising, especially with the bullshit you endured from killers tunneling tf outta you( which is fine but feels awful) no gens popping, rescuing teammates but being left to die in the end, etc. The worse part? it's just bad luck sometimes. So understandably, this isnt about the team anymore.😓 it's a feels bad situation.
One of the biggest jokes in this game is the MMR. All you can see at the end is how many prestiges (if any) that character is. I play killer and survivor, and you can tell pretty quickly if the other players are good or garbage. All the devs have done is cover up the fact that their MMR is trash.
I NEVER understood why that after BUYING a DLC, I would still have grind and level up to get the perks I just paid for....
I love how the DBD dev post got downvoted to hell, and rightfully so. "Because new killers verse new survivors..." Are they for real? It is so easy to climb up the MMR ladder as a killer, You verse uncounterable SWF in no time... FU BHVR!
And yes... Not all SWF are seal team 6, but the fact that we can still call them out from a solo lobby... says enough init? Even goofers I can tell apart easily from a solo lobby. The gap is MASSIVE.
The problem is also that Solo q'ers can't communicate what challenge they are doing. SWF do... Challanges ruin the game for solo lobby... I see so many survivors throw the game for a challange, both as killer and as survivor. its friggin shit.
The fact that even good guy Otz is gettin frustrated beyond reason, says enough. Im also pretty sure BHVR is just going for the cosmetics cash right now, add a character here and there... Cause those will bring in the cash. And as long as the player base does not go below a certrain treshold... Why would they waste time on improving it?
I really like dbd but the fact they aren't giving any solutions or asking for solutions or ideas just baffles me they clearly dont know their own game if they don't even know the direction they want to go in
TLDR they dont play their own game and are completly out of touch...
The direction they want to go in is whatever makes ppl spend their $$ and keep interacting with the game. That is the only direction they care about pursuing.
uve just described EVERY COMPANY EVER... congradulations, companies only care about making money, keeping the consumer reasonably happy is just a biproduct of that endevour.... @@Atheta426
Does bhvr play their own game?
Not at all lol Mentioned that in the survey 😂
No 💀
everyone already knows the devs don't play their own game after the flashlight incident
They do. Once ..a year...for one match. Where they get destroyed and go "yeah that's enough. Btw let's nerf this killer that destroyed me"
I might give dbd another chance if we ever get those extra gamemodes but right now dbd makes me too angry for my mental and physical health
The longer DBD goes on, the more convinced I am that Behaviour tapped into an under-represented market and that most of their success was entirely by accident. It's very clear that they have people who are genuine fans of the slasher-killer horror movie genre and that they have some serious input on the map and killer design.
But anything beyond that that goes into the actual crunch/balance of the game and quality-of-life experience? It's something they will only address when their proverbial balls are inches from the bandsaw or when some major problem personally impacts one of the developers. (see also why Flashlights were nerfed into the dirt until this year, or the disastrous New MMR Meta of late 2021-early 2022 that nearly killed the game outright)
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Not to mention the killers you get when you start the game. I JUST got into the game on PC (I was a PS4 player for a long while), and I had only bought 2 DLC characters I played on PS4 to get me started.
So the other killers I have access to? Wraith, Nurse, Hillbilly, Trapper, and Huntress. So 2 killers considered hard, especially for newer players. A medium difficulty killer, a useless killer (sorry Trapper), and Wraith. The only useful killer there is wraith. IMAGINE being a killer main who didn't purchase any DLC dude. So not only are they shitting on the general non-DLC playerbase by removing perks THEY NEED, but also they hardly give them anything to work with (for killer mains, sorry I don't play Surv much, I have no friends).
You get the top tier most OP killer when you start the game. You're completely wrong on that.
On top of that, the other S-tier killer is easily obtainable with in-game currency.
And the Nurse is not that hard, at least I can vouch for PC Nurse. I have 50 hours in this game, and I played only 3 matches as killer, they were 1 Billy, 1 Huntress and 1 Nurse.
And the Nurse was by far the easiest. You immediately get the hang of her blink, it's far easier than Billy's chainsaw, for example.
The only hard part is blinking in multi-storey buildings.
We didn't ask why a 45 year old man was done playing DBD.
Thanks
BHVR has a problem with only looking at numbers, and not the context of the numbers. The response regarding solo & SWF is a good example of this. I doubt that will change anytime soon, unfortunately.
I just started playing in September and I'm old enough to remember when most games were shovelware.
With so many games being produced just to be abandoned, and so little transparency from big publishers I'm impressed by behavior, and I've enjoyed nearly every moment in this game. I really don't understand the frustration.
A studio willing to do an AMA, on top of working on bug fixes/content on a consistent basis is a rarity these days.
This community's problem is more about behavior having a pattern of delivering consistently. Not every month, or every year is going to have big content updates. 🙄
Otzdarva is a very positive, pleasant guy.
He also is one of the best examples of why the community of this game actively ruins the game.
Not because of toxicity, or actively engaging into unfair stuff like cheating - that, of course, IS harmful, but not to this extent.
Not holding developers accountable, forgiving them and ignoring issues, on the other hand - isn't just harmful, it's atrocious. And for the developers such as BHVR who several times shown how they are willing to gimp free or already bought content to give a little bit of incentive to the "new" content, the devs who made monumentally bad technical updates, the devs who blatantly ignore community feedback and common sense for years, the devs who are unable to do ANYTHING to cheaters and to even protect the IP leak - yeah, that is something i just can't get behind of.
Otz isn't a dumbass. He is the smart guy. That's why i so frustrated with his "overpositive" approach. Toxic positivity is a dumb concept, but it clearly is a thing when people defend corporations or any similar large, nameless entities.
At least it seems like even he had enough. Not acknowledging himself to be a part of the problem is kinda sad, but i guess it's just a human nature.
I've stopped playing this game for years now, and i've found there's plenty fish in the sea. And now, considering lethal company is on the rise - there's a great coop game to replace the DbD-shaped hole in your heart, too.
I just recently started playing DbD and was really enjoying it. Seeing how the developers seem to not care anymore makes not want to play anymore.
Side note: I didn’t know you stopped playing DBD :( I miss watching your Pyramidhead videos but I understand buddy 🫡
You still might catch it on occasional streams. Just not here anymore. I do love Pyramid Head
i think the major problem is. The Devs do NOT play their own game and it shows.
Of course the devs have ambitions for the game, wtf is everybody talking about? They added a battle-pass, premium currency, killers locked behind paywalls, and soon they're going to add evolving skins just like Fortnite. Their monetization is incredibly well thought out and makes them the most amount of money from the competitive whales still playing.
Their monetization is very ambitious!
To keep it even maybe let killers see like 2 of each survivors perks too so killers aren’t getting blasted harder -survivor main
I still enjoy the game. For me, it’s one of those games that I’ll play intensely for a few months, then stop playing altogether besides major events like the Halloween event. I still think it’s fun, and although I don’t agree with the devs decisions, the community is genuinely never satisfied with anything they do. Every single time they make a change or are working on something, the community is mad about it. They literally put Alien and Chucky into the game where the community was praising the devs, and now we’re back to hating them. Play the game if you want, don’t play it if you don’t like it.
They care about monotization. That's it.
Well done 🤘🏻
I stopped playing dbd over a year ago because of the lack of love from BOTH the Devs and the community but mostly the community, being called racist stuff in post lobby, being told to KYS, and having teammates either DCing or throwing the match by leading the killer, missing skill checks, or just being the annoying person that jumps in and out of windows or pallets....It's ridiculous that a game can house so many turds and still say it smells fine.
Watching the last survivor and the killer sometimes leaves you angry when you see them working together and then you remembered all those times when you and the last survivor was working on the same Gen only for her to stay on it as the killer only went after me. I have seen the survivors give away my location as they stand in front of the killer and point to me and the killer Leaves them and comes after me. I think when they work together like that we should be able to report them. I've never seen anyway where I can report them for that.
That comment about players being a victim is 100% accurate. DBD is lame af. Life is so much better out of deebeedee
Damn what are you doing here? Last place I would expect you to be.
Last 4 matches I've played after 5 months of not playing was exactly what otz described. People cheating and not getting a single hit in. Then after a week break was several matches of swf just bullying me with stun and exhaustion recharged perks. Switch to survivor and all my team mates kill themselves/dc on first hook. The game just is not fun solo. I dont know If i just get back luck with match making or if this the experience of most players that dont post anything and just quit after several of those experiences.
they should've left billy the way he was originally, old spirit, old hatch, revert survivor and killer perks and addons. I hated the fact that they nerfed selfcare, bottany knowledge, boon circle of healing etc. 🤨
The idea is that the team isn't technically playing as a team. It's supposed to be 1v1, 1v1, 1v1, 1v1, all facing the killer but in a team fashion. So I understand why DBD wants to limit communication for that aspect but the problem is people just get into Discord and make 4 man SWF teams and harass killers.... So I would rather it be changed to a team facing the killer and maybe they introduce a solo que, duo que, and team que potential. Killers would just be adjusted to earn more MMR based on the overall team rating they're facing, with maybe compensating for a swf loss by not losing a drastic amount of elo or maybe having a tick foregiveness once per elo. Like a free loss at high elo. Just my input. Maybe doing it this way would make everyone happy, solo que would stay solo and communicationless. Duo and anything more would be expected teamwork play. Maybe make a symbol to show duos and teams for killers to see that they're facing a team. I think that could help.
Good idea if a Killer play against 4man it should get more MMR and against soloq less
Or buff soloq to swf lvl and you can adjust/nerf/buff perks better without make the perk in soloq useless and swf broken.
Honestly I couldn’t stand playing killer after facing a good group every once in a while. It just bothered me in the end too much being „set up“ like that. If it was optional to choose to enter a match facing a full 4 man for more points or versing duos or solos for less I’d maybe have stuck out the killer career longer.
@@undeadwerewolves9463 yea I can see how it's easy to not want to play killer. I hope DBD fixes this issue sometime soon, I know they are at least working on Knight right now which is like my favorite killer to play atm.
To fix SWF? Just make it so that Discord is detected, or TeamSpeak, and if done so, the Killers can have an option to exclude people with active Discords off their matchmaking.
But they won't do this, as SWF would only find the Killers who aren't easy to bully, and SWF cannot be mad else they won't pay for skins :(
ok, i dont know why YT recommended this video... but I applaud your stance on DbD. The only thing BHVR understands now, is money. Every time you click on that app, BHVR is earning money. If you want change to happen, stop playing the game. That "Q&A" basically proves the operate conditioning that BHVR is using... want change? stop playing.
I know what you saying about comms in dbd that info is strong and that whats makes swf stronger than solo BUT the reason they in comms with each other is because they are firends. SWF are not just 4 strangers who just decided to group up and play dbd. So what the devs are saying isnt really untrue. The reason why SFW are strong is bc they know each other and have a common goal and use comms to achieve that goal. Even if you add alot of info for solos or even a voice chat I honestly believe it would not change a thing. Strangers (esp on the internet) tend to not like to talk to or communicate with other strangers. Most ppl on the internet who play games by themselves are introverts. This is also true for other games, look at OW2. It has voice chat build in but NO ONE uses it. I been playing it for a year now and have never seen anyone in my matches even use voice chats or even text chat to do call outs. I honestly believe no amount of info will make the gap between SoloQ and SWF smaller no less close to each other. So this why I kinda see why the devs said what they said to that question. Do I agree with it? Not really I think info would still be nice to have(most just seeing a teammate's perks) but I dont think it will bridge the gap that is between solo and swf. As they said friends by nature will always work together better than 4 compete strangers.
just based on end game chat vulgairty, in game coms would not be good / ppl would stop using it.... just like a female talking in a cod lobby... they DONT... because its not worth the probabilty of toxicity...
@@daxx1985 Competely agree! Im competely against adding voice chat to dbd bc of that reason you just said. I just use it as a example bc its the main thing ppl ask for when they talk about adding things to make soloQ better.
its such a double edge sword and ppl dont see it, makes my head hurt... ppl constantly making utube vids about toxic streamers, and streamers are a smol portion of the playerbase, i cant immagine the vial shit ppl would say in open coms.... @@MrJP6389
unfortunately this game is already extremely toxic, it's not something you can get rid of, but you can try your best to play around it. I've played COD recently and still use VC and actually have met nice ppl, even tho the community has always been notoriously sexist (i sound very obviously like a girl)@@daxx1985
im glad 1 person dosen't have an issue.... thats what we call in the buisness anecdotal evidence... idk how this refutes my claim in any way, that coms would be AWFUL for the majority of ppl... @@marblelemonade76
It blows my mind that the devs dont even pay any attention to Otz’s ideas. Dude is an absolute genius and BHVR could use someone like Otz in their company to maintain the game’s health, balance, and enjoyment. It’s very evident that at the end of the day BHVR does not care about the community or it’s creators and is just constantly chasing a bigger bag instead of making the game more fun and enjoyable. Quite sad if I’m being completely honest
Solo Que is u bearable. I lost a game because I had no way to tell my teamates to help me on this one gen to prevent a 3 gen, I’ve lost games because maybe I know how to counter a killer and my team doesn’t. I couldn’t tell my teamates to not group up so legion doesn’t get easy health states. I can’t communicate which killer it is when I see them so my team is prepared to counter them. Especially on someone like myers. I can’t tell my team where totems are for a boon, or hexes so we can stop hex builds. I can’t tell my team where traps are, where not to go and I most importantly can’t coordinate saves. I can’t tell the random Dwight that’s gen rushing while two of our teamates are about to hit 2 to go save the other person while getting the other. I can’t tell my teamates lets go to boon cus it will cut our healing in half. I can’t tell them to crawl to boon so they can pick themself up out of dying state, I can’t tell them to let me bless the totem and not let them cleanse it cus I have something like overzealous or a boon. There are so many little things that build up to solo que being dysfunctional that coms or even just quicker communication. Like why can’t I throw up a little emote like in fortnite to communicate something. Why do I have to wait 3 seconds for a slow ass emote that my teammate might not even see to come up. If I die on pallet I can’t ask for save I just have to hope someone knows to do it
Where as with killer there is no communication barrier. Sure it’s rough starting out as killer but in 50 hours I’ll be getting 4ks easily because I’m the only one that has to learn from my mistakes I don’t have to account for the 30 different kinds of players and their builds which I again do not know.
Another thing, 1 survivor essentially throwing can prevent all 3 other players from escaping. That’s 1 less person to heal and do gens and more importantly hold the killers attention. If I can’t tell them to hide if they are on 2 or to not go somewhere because the killer patrols there often then we are going to lose and that’s happened so so many times
The 'years' timeline to add perks to the lobby is even more insane when you realize the cheating software already puts all that info on the loading screen. It's not like the data isn't there to make use of. It's purely just putting the data on the screen somewhere.
On a random note, technically this would probably be impossible, or near impossible to pull off, but I WISH there was an option or filter to choose which k!llers to face. I think a lot of people hook destruct because they are sick of getting some of the same k!llers. I can't stand The Plague, Trapper, and Skull Merchant the most. If I could filter who I got, I'd just set it to Ghostface, Michael, Wesker, Legion, Pyramid Head, and maybe one or two others. I just find those the most fun to go up against. Especially Ghostface, I loooove Ghostie, but his pick rate seems very low.
Honestly the obsession with skins and FOMO is an aspect im surprised isnt being mentioned much. Just trying to keep up with the rift as someone who played this game far too much was beginning to burn me out, let alone the flagrant lies and gaslighting of the incredibly arrogant dev team.
Constant bad decisions that made the game much more difficult to have fun were a big factor and their resistance to change that disincentivised unhealthy play for either side.
This community was bad and also a part of it, but honestly its not much worse than other online multiplayer games i play/ed.
I more or less stopped playing around the time the clown got his rework. And each time i came back i couldn't believe how little has changed, even to this day. With both the community and just inherent gameplay problems that gatekeep fun.
bhvr always takes a long stupid time to make simple things. the hud system could and should have been implemented years before it actually did. it´s just like this to literally everything in the game, they are slow because they´re careless, and they can be careless cuz they got licenses and no competitors.
The power of not being a shill for a company is so freeing, thank goodness you left
"people treat dbd like it is life or death and I don't get it"
As a regular solo quer who runs plot twist and baby sitter on most my builds im feeling pretty attacked because depending on the team I may do any of these "toxic" or whatever actions so I can actually enjoy the game I feel like its hard enough to kill yourself on the first hook and every time I tried failed then stuck with the team I already could tell was doomed things play out the same so I just feel like people need to focus more on having fun and stop trying to be so Meta or picking one play style however you want to call it make dynamic builds and have fun help when you can and have fun always 😂
i agree with bhvr here. basically they are saying that if you want all those things you should just play swf. i honestly think it should be 2 diff game modes. swf and solo q. maybe solo q is easier for survivors and swf mode has a killer buff.
In any multiplayer game most people play “SoloQ”. You can’t force your friends to play a game they don’t want especially if they have different interest. Horrible way to balance a game. Either add a pin wheel and being able to see your teammates perks or just add voice chat for survivor. I have never heard of a multiplayer team based game not having any voice chat whatsoever
At least they should give a basekit debuff if there is 4 man swf like Tanatophobia -8% on repairing, healing, sabo action
Duo -2% (2xDuo -4%)
Trio -5%
(The % can increase or decrease)
This would nerf swf a bit but not harm soloq to much and the solo guy in a Trio Team have also small advantage in Healing/repairing
@@muysli.y1855 You’re punishing people for playing with friends. And most swfs don’t even sweat they fuck around. The probability of you encountering a 4 man that’s fully intent on doing gens asap is VERY low. Horrible idea
@@oscar3153 even if a swf is "just fucking around" they are still 100% stronger than solo q. it's not punishing ppl for playign with friends... it's balancing the game correctly based on how ppl play.
@@jnever9768 No they’re not lmfaoo. Theyre purposely not doing gens/sandbagging to get laughs. Not to mention most SWFS are garbage. SoloQ teammates that are actually component or better than a SWF who’s dicking around.
Extremely easy to capitalize on their mistakes as they genuinely do not care weather they escape
No you’re literally hindering people because they’re playing with their friends. By that logic an A+ tier killer should give survivors an increase in gen progression
Thanks for the video Fidget. I got burnt out on dbd mostly from the community as well. Its just been endless whining. I even came back multiple times just to here some man babies cry again. I will never understand the hate towards otz. I definitely disagree with him on some things but, I love other people sharing their thoughts. Also I know that 0.1% that isnt cool is me. Its because of my spirit too I bet
Bro bans people for thinking its a different perk💀
Correcting the Streamer is extremely toxic and reportable. Like playing with friends. Hooking Survivors. Doing gens. Etc
@@SgtFidget golly o gee you literally asked them my g
@@banduck8422you’re really stupid. He’s joking
I agree with almost everything but when it comes to Lobby Perk icons? Helllllllllllll fucking no. Sure loading screen is fine but in the lobby? Absolutely not. Cause then you get people running meme builds, sub optimal, selfish builds, No perks or No Mither being practically unable to play the game cause they'll just be dodged over and over again. It's a nice idea don't get me wrong but not for the environment that is dbd outside of being able to see maybe your own swf perks.
I remember someone comparing playing this game to a toxic relationship
Otz frustration would be one of the parties saying "I dont know if its worth it, I cant fix them" and thinking about ending it
Unfortunately this is the sorry state the game is in and I doubt it will ever change.
There are two major issues with the game - The devs and the (majority of the) community. Don't get me wrong, there are great people who actually care about this game in the community, but the vast majority are toxic and are the same people who would dog pile someone who has good ideas for change.
I was tempted to go back to playing DbD when Chucky was announced, but then I remembered who the devs are and what they care about, and also what most players are like in game.
To be fair, this game has been out for 7-8 years. Nothing lasts forever. But a guy like Otz is monetarily incentivized to want the game to last forever
basically it looks like they're going the overwatch route. forsake the gameplay, balance, and both the casual and competitve playerbases in the name of money. and it will work, because we live in a universe in which AAA games are products first, games second
I mean it works for the revenue. It works to squeeze the last few drops of juice from the lemon.
But ask yourself, what happened to Overwatch 2?
The same thing will eventually happen to DBD
I have less than 200 hours in dbd. Saying gen regression for new players isn't necessary is mind blowing. By 50 hours, I was struggling with stopping teams rushing gens down to the point I felt like I would have to spend money on killers to even compete. I would have a perk like deerstalker just to fill a spot because I only finished huntress on shared perks at the time. I quit playing 2 years ago and don't have any plans on coming back because how the game just feels like an exercise in struggling vs p2w.
7:51 that was a tad petty😂
"New killers are also up against new survivors" is just blatantly false. I got the game a week or two ago and I've been constantly facing survivors with 3000+ hours after the first 5 to 10 games I played as killer.
Swear dbd just needs to be put under new management
As someone who does dabble in code, by when they say "Flexibility in lobby screens" they are probably referring to the fact that the way it's coded at this moment doesn't allow that and therefore they are trying to recreate it from the ground up so they can in the future have that.
Hence why they said "Over the next few years" as it's likely going to have to be gradual so that people can still play the game while they do it and ease into it rather than shutoff the game for a week or so while they grind out code just so a feature can be implemented.
Yes Mobile DBD has this exact feature at least in the sense it shows your perks in loading to other survivors, but that's cause it was built able to do that from the ground up, they didn't have to recode an entire lobby screen just to implement a feature because they designed it better from the start.
Also the whole "YEARS!!?" Reply is just gross, like they didn't say it'd take years, they said over the course of the following years, which means we could see the progression of it implemented in a few months but they don't expect it to be in the finished state for awhile. Which is fine because a lot of things in this game are like this in a way, simply having things like new modes being sort of implemented through the rift challenges is an example.
It's an indie company focused on a lot of things, for them to say that they are working on it over the next few years is not them saying it won't be till 2028 that we get this feature.
I’ve left DBD for a couple years now, and I’ve said for a while that Otz’s intellect, analytical ability, and talent are wasted on a game like DBD.
Gormless devs like BHVR do not deserve this attention.
I played this game in beta and onwards and i loved it i loved the idea i loved the community i loved every aspect of it even with the glitches and trolls and everything in between but i realized at some point along the way that it's resembling my experience with my main game that i spent thousands of hours on that caught my heart the same way dbd did and just as quick, i saw the decline slowly but surely but i still gave the the benefit of the doubt since they aren't like that one company with that one game, and then it was all but confirmed it, was going the same exact way, and i discovered that this community specifically is so special than the rest to the point where the majority are casuals to gaming overall and this either started it for them or it became their only love out of all the video games, and i realized that bc that is the case they don't know how it usually goes. When devs make these kind of mistakes consistently even with their initial success which is supposed to be a boost and i don't just mean profit kind of success, when that happens it is all over and it'll just go through this weird milking the players while not giving any fucks about the actual state of the game kind of phase and the OGs who are still in denial are falling for it. The game i was talking about was For Honor and the company is ubisoft btw. If you want another shitshow of game development you also got that absolute dumpster fire of a game. ESSENTIALLY what i'm saying is i've seen this exact pattern before it's already over they are killing the game subconsciously they're just taking it slow, stop giving a fuck and go try something else cuz those mfs don't deserve anymore care from anybody that does.
No one alive is bringing wake up to any match
Funny cause I've been using that for a couple months now. Pretty nice perk. Distortion, Calm Spirit, Deja Vu, Wake Up.
Both are great videos and I think echoes how alot of DbD community feel about the game. I stopped playing cause it just wasn't fun anymore with how toxic survivors were. Rather spend my time with a game I actually enjoy. Great video Fidget!!!
This AMA convinced me to play Baldur's Gate 3 instead of DbD, so as far as i'm concerned? Good job devs, this is so much more fun than your shite game.
BG3 is my GOTY. Enjoy it!
I think Otz misunderstood the answer about the gap between solo queue and swf. BHVR wasn't saying that solo queue survivors are lone wolves that don't care and that's a problem. Essentially what they were saying is that the problem doesn't lie with solo queue having too little info, it lies with swfs having too much. In other words, think of your average solo queue match- that's how BHVR thinks it should be to play as survivor.
Yea I honestly feel like a typical solo q match is deemed okay to BHVR. They want the kill rates to be better than escape rates imo because you need killers for the game to function optimally. I’m a survivor main who finds playing killer very boring , so I want the ppl who play killer to play the game. However, there’s nothing BHVR can do to control swfs on comms. My problem is, even if it is 4 solo players who play well together, the killer always assume its a swf on comms … which still breeds toxicity and killers complaining (I’ve seen it). So realistically, if everyone who played survivor played as a team with similar skill and unselfishly sacrificed themselves like swfs do on comms, most killers would be frustrated. So anything to even remotely help solo q players synergize with other solo players would lead to more toxicity from the other side, more complaints, more problems to address . We’re past the point of no return unfortunately
Console players still can’t even type after the games 😂😂
Otz doesn't have an evil bone in his body. He's a very special and rare breed on this platform; extremely caring, humble, and genuine. The way a minority of people talk about and treat him is unfair, but also not unexpected. It's just a symptom of how the devs have betrayed their community, and people are looking for a face to blame.
I know it's their game, but the devs are wrong about so much in this game. How can you be so unaware and wrong about your own game? It's almost like they don't play it themselves.
I love how this comment can be applied to most of modern online games and it's actually really sad.