Killer Lucy Letby Refused To Attend Sentencing - “One Final Act Of Wickedness From A COWARD”
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2023
- Killer Lucy Letby did not appear in the dock at Manchester Crown Court on Monday as she was given a whole-life order after being convicted of the murders of seven babies and the attempted murders of six more.
Holly Hudson says: “One of the mothers involved in the trial of two of Letby’s victims said ‘her refusal to appear was just one final act of wickedness from a coward’.”
Jeremy Kyle says: “I am amazed that this is not a part of our criminal justice system already.”
Kyle questions the delay by the hospital to report the deaths to the police, despite concerns raised by staff.
Benedict Spence says: “The actions of this hospital have added to the suffering of the families.
#talkradio #lucyletby
NOW put all the NHS executives on trial - no gold-plated pensions for them on taxpayers' cost!!!
Nuremburg 2 for medical malfeasance is coming. C19 is just scratching the surface of the crimes the national harm service has done to the Brits.
Agreed
Unfortunately it’s not going to happen
I agree rescind senior NHS bosses £1 million or more pensions & give it to the families who babies were murdered & attempted murder
agrree
Why were cameras not put in the neo natal unit once there were concerns and suspicions?
@ekl2947 Do you honestly believe any parents would object to access to a live feed of their own babies?
Should be commonplace, they just didn't want to.
There's no excuse for zero kind of cameras or monitors after so many deaths and releasing her on the ward again
Because all the money is going on paying those senior managers on six figures
Shame
@@ekl2947you have no right to privacy in a public building.
This I Don’t Understand
If someone has been convicted of murder they should be mandated to stay in court. They should have no choice.
She is a women in a feminist world. You cannot mandate her to do anything. They could mandate her getting investigated and removed early. Heck, they made the male doctors who reported her to apologise to her. Remember, society operates on BELIEVE ALL WOMEN.
I totally agree !!
I agree, that way criminals can taunt and laugh at the families and friends of victims before the key is thrown away. Yall really virtue signal for the sake of it.
@@notreal1477 Dumb response by you. The criminals are not allowed to do what you've said. They're silenced if they try.
What about those criminals who attack the lawyers and judges? We have seen it happen before and they get taken out of court.
Convicted of murdering 7 babies by she was there for every death. I think it is reasonable to assume the number she actually killed was much higher.
Can only imagine what the true no is from the other hospital too its worse than any horror film shes one vile , evil predator
I thought she was charged with some they couldnt prove
There is such a thing as cluster deaths there were 9 babies in prem care died before they identified the cause , if I remember it was in Wales These babes were premature all had health probs in a poor hospital . giving poor chance of survival same as Letbys , I think it was an unsafe conviction as usual by juries
@@rolandhawken6628 your disgusting go get help
criminals have more rights now than the poor victims. She is pure evil
So true. The accused can choose to skip court but the poor jurors forced to sit the trial for 9 months at great financial, social and mental cost would have the book thrown at them if they refused to show up.
She's playing god in her world
Why does she have a choice to attend or not? All convicted murdered should be made to attend the victim impact statements and sentencing. She would not have to be “dragged out” at high cost if she were made to do so at gunpoint by guards. It’s the least she should have to face. And that CEO must stand trial as well as an accomplice.
Agreed 🤝 Well said.
Did you say this about the little girl who was shot in Liverpool, or the young woman shot and killed at New Year also Liverpool, because their killers stayed in their cells too, as have many others.
@@lizroberts1569 I am not aware of every murder, nor of what the murderer does. I’m in the US, where there is not a choice for murderers to stay in their cells.
We don't have guns in Court! Or even carry one....@marblehead2500
It's England, they treat criminals with kid gloves. This lady will be paroled in 10 years
So disgusting to hear these NHS bosses have been allowed to move on to other positions with high salaries! 😡. They have to be held accountable for their involvement in this sickening crime against innocent babies and their families 😢😢
They should be made accountable, because otherwise they may repeat the same mistakes elsewhere.
The management of the hospital should face a public enquiry and a criminal negligence trial. Their suppression of overwhelming evidence is clearly amounts to being complicit in this Nurse Will Make Baby Worse case.
They are the same as all the people who covered up for Larry Nassar.
Nowadays, criminals & sadistic killers have rights & privileges not afforded to their victims or their grieving families & loved ones.
Don't forget the jurors. Forced to be there for 9 months with abysmal pay after being picked at random. If they decided not to show up to court they'd get the book thrown at them but the criminal can decide to simply not show up.
@@Fireglo Amazing isn’t it? In this world of woke the wishes & rights of vicious criminals are respected & taken into account rather than law abiding citizens who are either ignored or treated like they’re in the wrong.
@@Kwesekara1672 yeah the law abiding citizens are always treated awfully by the system. When you're a juror you get paid less than minimum wage and you're simply expected to survive on it for possibly months. If your bus is late you can be found in contempt of court meanwhile if you have any criminal history so much as a mere shoplifting charge then you're exempt from the slavery sorry "civic duty" altogether.
@@Fireglo It’s reprehensible & an abomination. No respect or appreciation for anything decent anymore. At least this monster will have plenty of time to think about what she’s done. Although it’s said she showed no remorse. Most probably a psychopath. She’s where she belongs now.
Police should pull her by hair to court room and make her listening sentence 🤯🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
No
@@IchaelGillfucking yes
@@bonkerslez91 no way
@@bonkerslez91 don't be silly
How is it possible that this evil woman is given a choice?
Liberalism
Woman
Believe in women, sir. Get it in your head and engrave it.
@@rajsamb What? Your comment makes no sense.
Because she will still rot in jail whether she shows up in court or not.
Where are those hospital executives?
Well the CEO at the time bailed with his nice fat pension pot as it began to kick off.
Absolutely !! Where are they indeed ?
They will Class Action Cases for sure - and the Execs / Bosses aka Proxies to MURDER will have their Day in Court !! And PAY Financially in Damages to the Families Grieving !!
Probably on hol somewhere exotic
@@jools726time to bring him in.
The Times reported that the CEO was told he was in trouble and replied “they’ll have to catch me first”. What an example of a superb, ethical public servant.
As a former NICU nurse and later a lecturer in Neonatal Intensive Care Nursing, diploma and master's programs. My gut just churns what this woman has done. When you have held a tiny warm fragile baby that fits in the palm of your hand, WHY? How could this happen? I find myself weeping as I listen to the panel today.
Exactly. As a fellow nurse whose practiced for 36 years I’m still trying to wrap my head around this entire case. I practice pediatric OR nursing and I’ve been in cases that we operated on neonates who are just over a pound that have coded on the table, and remember our team did every single thing we could possibly do to save the life of said baby. Those types of babies only come to us rarely as they are so fragile to begin with. How could she inject air, formula, insulin etc to cause a code. She’s a sociopath.
😢💔
She was well liked and popular. We expect psychopaths to be monsters, not sweet and popular nurses
I can just imagine the sense of total betrayal for you and for your fellow professional colleagues.❤
@@kimclarke5018She is a psychopath. I can't get my head around it either. Why going to university, study hard to get a degree in nursing, to then only to kill your patients, I just don't understand it. I am not a nurse but I worked for many years in care homes as a helping nurse, so i cared for older people, I washed them, give them food etc. You have nurses that are also killing older people in rest homes. I am from Belgium, around 2020-2021 3 patients were murdered in a care home and 6 almost died, they died from overdosis insuline while non of the patients were diabetic. Till this day the police didn't arrest anybody but they have a suspicion. The care home where it happened fired some people in 2021 and the killings stopped so it has to be 1 of those people that were fired. This literally breaks my heart this happened. Especially children, babies and older people who can't survive without the help of caregivers, they are so vulnerable.
It happens a lot with these hospital execs. They perform badly, walk away with a massive pay off and then walk into another NHS trust on another ridiculously high salary. This is public money.
Golden handshakes galore!
So she was allowed to rob the victims one last time. That’s the very cruel bit. She should have been dragged in the courtroom.
Kier Stammer is right in that a statutory enquiry should be held & bring the hospital bosses accountable for hiding evidence & made 7 consultants to apologise to her - disgusting
yeah coming from the guy who under his tenure allowed Jimmy Saville to walk, pot kettle black springs to mind.
Those in administrative positions in that hospital , who were alerted to the potential presence of a killer yet chose to do nothing about it should face a prosecution for Corporate manslaughter . Most if them have moved into other positions or retired in their pensions. They are equally accountable , they had the power to prevent it.
Seven?! How do they not treat 7 medical professionals concerns seriously? They can't get away with that.
You dont believe she was cowering?? Shes probably getting some kick out of this! No remorse, no tears, well only for the dr n her house n cats, this woman is the definition of evil
I think it's likely that she would have gotten a kick out of being there and experiencing the pain of the families. Whether or not the Court thought that also, I think for that reason, it's as well she wasn't there. Those poor people have been through enough already. I don't know how it is in the UK, but a few days in the general population of the prison would probably save a lot of time and expense.
@@sodoffbaldrick3038but sadly child killers and nonces are protected here guess scum protect their own
8 years later .. the incompetence is off the scale they all need sacking barring those who reported her early stages
Come the elapse of 8 years, if such things still exist, she'll have gone off the landing by then.
Better off having a baby in your own home if there are nurses like this in the NHS.
yeah , no, probably not
100% right on. In our family, we all had our children at home, all the family around and a midwife.
No hospital - too dangerous.
But they were in a neonatal unit as born premature or something, so you couldn't do incubators in your own home.
That’s all very well, but these poor little mites needed hospital care 😢
@@renataostertag6051my brother lived next door to a midwife who decided to have her baby at home - with her children present to witness the blessed event - they were awoken in the middle of the night to the terrified screams of children who watched it all go horribly wrong and no doctor present to assist - that baby died
Why wasn't she dragged out of her cell, put into restraints and taken to Court. Why do criminals constantly have more rights than their victims? Why is there no death penalty for crimes like this?
I can’t believe those people don’t have to face the victim’s families. In the US they are forced to face them, AND listen to whatever the families want to say to them.
Yes well thankfully we’re not in the US where gun laws allow horrific mass murders. I don’t see what purpose it serves for the parents to look upon someone who if she did commit these crimes has no remorse.
@@lizroberts1569 Then you need to educate yourself about why the victims want the criminal to be there for sentencing.
The parents, if Americans, in America would be suing the NHS and as a man whom has successful sue several giant companies, including one international bank, they stand a more than 90% chance of winning huge financial compensation, the word compensation hardly fits their loss but it could help them with their future and whatever family remains or comes along after this truly harrowing experience. Sue the backsides of them. I am sure law firms will be queuing-up to work pro-bono for them in a Class Action. For the record I have legal proceedings against the NHS.
Oh please! Keep telling yourself that when some illegal immigrant accosts you and/or your family. It's only a matter of time. You will wish you had a weapon to defend yourself.@@lizroberts1569
@@lizroberts1569 if that was my baby I would want to look into her eyes and tell her exactly how I feel. She should be made to stand there and listen to the families that she has hurt soooo much. She should be made to listen to her sentencing. As far as I am concerned she has lost all her rights the minute she has been found guilty.
Absolutely disgraceful. Those hospital bosses should be prosecuted and thrown in prison too! The hospital system protected her, allowing her to murder 7 babies and attempting to kill 6 more in 1 year.
Now we see the legal system protecting her once again, in allowing her to choose not to appear in court.
WHERE WAS THE PROTECTION FOR THOSE INNOCENT DEFENSELESS BABIES?!?! THE SYSTEM FAILED THEM!
Amazing that not appearing is even an option
Sadly this offender is going to need literally round the clock watching and also no association with other inmates. By having to do this, it's going to cost the taxpayer too much, keeping her safe. I truly do feel so much sadness that those parents lost treasured little gifts to an awful murderess. Hope they get all the love and community support. 😢
Send her off to an experimental lab and save some poor animals instead.
Yep My friend the prison officer has said the same as you and me, one day somehow she'll get boiling sugar water in her face!@simplyurbanozee
Nah, she'll get got no worries
Why? She'll be in a prison with other people who have done similar crimes. Prisons aren't moral highgrounds, they're full of the absolute worst of humanity.
Every single person that tried to hide and sweep this under the carpet, must be prosecuted to the fullest. My son was premature and spent the first couple of weeks in the special care baby unit, every single person working there was amazing, thankfully it never ever crossed my mind that a monster like Lucy Letby could have been lurking. My heart is broken for the parents of all of those poor babies , and also for all of the genuine, kind, caring(none monster nurses) all working so hard day in and day out, thank you 💙 x
They could have assigned the British military police to escort her into court & back to her cell. They wouldn't cost any extra for overtime for the taxpayers. Why is it assumed it would cost more than other days she's brought to court? That's bizarre that she is allowed to just avoid her consequences. I've never heard of that before. Hopefully she will have no choices in prison.
Sincere condolences to the families whose babies were taken from them. RIP sweet babies.
I could have done that job for free if I was allowed to grope and grape.
The actions of the hospital who protected their resident serial killer should be punished. Each individual, no matter where they scraper off to
NHS management didn't/wouldn't accept "Whistle blowing" from Doctors and this cannot go on...Children died because of everyone's behaviour. They all should have pushed it further!
Looking at how pathetically soft british crime punishment has become, the more i admire the justice systems of china, russia, singapore, and Saudi arabia.
Blame the EU for taking away all the rules we had..
Maybe you should contact a member of parliament with your concerns? I’m sure there’s a few right wingers there that share your views.
Saudi Arabia? 😬
@BanjoPixelSnack they chopped heads of murderers there, don't they?
@carlix8035 it's a cry for justice for these helpless innocent babies, not for being a right winger.
If she's innocent she would have attended her sentencing to prove she's wrongly convicted, yet she didn't. This clearly shows she's not remorseful of her cruel killing and the arrogance of refusing to be in court as if she's above the law is seriously disgusting!
She’s a coward, she killed defensive babies under the cover as a health care giver. She has absolutely NO conscience and is a despicable person, people like that cower in society.
That makes no sense. How does attending sentencing prove you're wrongly convicted? The verdict was already in at that point. It's not going to change. Sentencing is where you hear what your prison term is going to be.
@@Fireglo She should take the bull by the horns if she's innocent. Period!
@@saffrondominic4585 not really. Most innocent people wrongly convicted would refuse to attend sentencing. It would be horrific to experience the victim impact statements and boos and jeerings for something you didn't do. Of course you're not going to show up if it's an option.
I have encountered too many Nurses like her, high ego, no compassion, no remorse for their wrong doings, even when they do wrong they still behave as if it is their victims who have done them wrong not the other way around. Scary world we live in.
Letby will hopefully rot in jail and I hope that she does not get any privileges, cushy cell etc. Secondly those who allowed this to happen, who defended her despite several doctors on hand at the time continuously raised serious concerns should be investigated, and if found guilty of gross negligence should be severely fined, having to make payments over many years and the money should go to the familes who have suffered. The only way to really hurt these self satisfied overpaid administrators is to hit them hard in the pocket.
THIS LAW DEFINITELY NEEDS TO CHANGE
Thank goodness it is a law in United States for instance in Idaho, where Lori Vallow, convicted murderer of her two children, was forced by the judge to attend her sentencing and WItness impact victim's statements. Coward law in UK should be changed now.
Agreed. Why should they even have the choice not to attend?
The management need to be held accountable for their complete CRIMINAL negligence & incompetence! She was allowed to do because of them and their failure.
Such a cowardly final act to not face the victim's families. Makes my blood boil. Her victims had no choice but to face her in their final moments, so she should not be granted a choice in whether or not to face the full weight of her consequences.
I think all the parents and people who say she should hear the victim impact statements …why! She doesn’t care ,she isn’t the average person,she is a psycho she doesn’t have emotion or empathy,I think it would just rub the salt in the wounds of the parents to see her emotionless and unremorsal expression as they spoke,or if she did worse and shouted abuse ,it was actually a blessing she wasn’t there ,people who have seen psychos up close and personal will totally get that even if most people don’t !
That's a good point.
I've always said how wrong the conception of unconditional love is entirely wrong! You must instil there will be consequences by your behaviour whilst younger than a teenager, after that it's a lot harder... @@mesunone
Why do you need such laws for? If she’s incarcerated the state decides where she goes! Drag her! Ridiculous.
It's her last throw of power, like someone who refuses to tell where the body is...Sheer evil!
Lucy will spend the remainder of her life being housed, clothed and fed by the taxpayers.
The families of the angelic babies receive a life sentence without parole. They will continue to pay for their keep no matter the depth of their grief.
Hoping the cooks in prison poop in Lucy's breakfast tray.
We desperately need the death penalty back.
Justice needs to be done and it needs to be seen to be done. The people that covered these crimes up need to be brought to justice along with Letby.
The debate that is never taken up is the decline in the NHS across the board since Margaret Thatcher removed hospital Matrons as managers of their hospitals . Women who came up through the ranks of nursing , working alongside doctors , medical specialists and surgeons , knowing their hospital inside out along with all the medical staff under their care and the needs each department had for funding equipment and its staffing needs . Those women ran very tight ships and should never have been taken down by replacing them by overpaid pen pushers who never emptied a bed pan or broke the news of a loved ones death to a family member . That’s why the murders went on , the medical staff had been ignored by these overpaid pen pushers . This terrible situation could never have taken place with a Matron system in place .
The police should have been ordered by the judge to put a straight-jacket on her and drag her into court.
appearing in court not appearing in court shouldn't be the legislative priority at the moment . Drs that suspect foul play should now be obligated to go straight to the police not "management" ,and stop letting vile criminals out of jail .Let the evidence bear proof
Totally agree...
One thing nobody on here is mentioning is the fact that there was no physical evidence linking her to these crimes,
Nor was there any video footage of, or witnesses to the crimes she has been convicted of,
As with other cases similar to this in years gone by she has been convicted solely based on circumstantial evidence,
Is she guilty? Probably,
However, if we are going to start convicting accused individuals solely on circumstantial evidence and public opinion, innocent people will inevitably end up in jail,
The justice system has to get the balance right between protecting the public from those that seek to harm others, whilst maintaining the ethos of innocent until proven guilty,
A tough tough job indeed
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She’s murdered multiple babies and was working on doing the same to several more. My guess is that she hasn’t got a conscience.
It's not like it happened before....... Anyone remember that evil ... Beverly Allit ?
What about Amelia Dryer? 1896 English serial baby killer?
It sounds like the criminal has more rights than the victims. What kind of world do we live in where this demon gets to live out the rest of her life receiving housing, health care, and meals on the taxpayers' dime? The de@t# penalty would be more ethical.
So Lucy letby wanted to get the attention of a doctor by killing babies 🤷♀️ what?
CEO Hervey (retired in France) should be brought back and charged, because he is partly responsible for further babies deaths, allowing the nurse to work on the wards for another 3 years, after suspicions were first voiced.
What is sickening is the fact that her parents still claims her innocence. 🤮🤮🤮🤮
They are hiding in plain sight till they get into action, and that's when we recognize them. It's already too late, they already caused lots of damage.
What a generation!
Regardless of the Lucy Letby case, this man is one of the most ignorant, self-satisfied, arrogant, aggressive and cruel people broadcasting. He has been responsible for a great deal of harm.
Why does there have to be a reason?
Serial killers kill because they can.
Her employers knew what she was doing, yet she was still allowed to work with those babies.
Leaving her there was giving her carte Blanche to carry on murdering
It was the same with Beverley Allitt. Left to work on a ward and kill more children.
The ward managers and doctors could have moved her way before it got to this tragic point
What she has done is shocking and unforgivable. She asked for this.
The ceo and the managers who dismissed early signs should be held accountable,hopefully judgment is coming for them too
She should have been restrained, and gagged in her prison to be made to listen.
And let’s hear from the administration who allowed this.
I need someone to explain how she can refuse to go to court ,??
I dint understand how she can have the choice of not attending just because she doesn’t feel like it.
Millions never go to court and are convicted in there absence
People who are against the death penalty are just intolerable
michael stone most people are convinced he is innocent of killing lyn russell and her daughter....under your system he would now be dead
@@ekl2947 Why is a society where people are wrongly executed better than a society where innocent civilians are killed because there is no effective deterrent against murder?
Living 50 years in prison knowing you’ll die there is worse than a quick death, imo.
@@BanjoPixelSnack i agree
Well I’m glad someone at least mentioned a possibility of wrongful convictions. It does happen very occasionally.
I’d love to know if the verdict reached was beyond reasonable doubt. I’ve not followed the case that intently.
Having said that… even then there is always a slim possibility that she has been wrongly convicted.
I wonder if every avenue was explored including staff negligence, health and safety, any potential health hazards regarding the hospital building or ward.?
I just keep hearing suspicions and flimsy motives regarding this ex-nurse.
If you’re gonna convict someone for multiple murders of babies, ideally the case should be thorough and not debatable after sentencing the condemned.
If we’re to take face value on what has been reported it looks like they need to do a rigorous assessment of her. I’ve read that some psychologists suspect she may be a psychopath. If that is their assumption, then allow them to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
Letby has never verbally told anyone she did what she has now been convicted of. This usually doesn’t remain the case with a psychopath. Ted Bundt proclaimed his innocence till quite near his execution date.
So yeah they can lie for a long time before confessing. But if she is a psychopath (think we can rule out sociopath) she would bare traits of one (other than being a cold blooded killer).
I’m not sure this is as clear cut as ppl are making out. The fact that the hospital stopped taking in premature babies after her arrest doesn’t help matters either. How is anyone to know any difference in death rates now without a comparison?
Totaly happened a few times with scapegoat nurses who have been found guilty then overturned and found innocent to cover the incompancy of trusts or consultants
Well said
I liked your commnent
Absolutely sickening that she wasn't dragged in to court !!
Why does this monster have a choice in not facing the family?
She should be forced to face her victims families. It’s only right. She needs to hear and see those families. It’s a type of justice.
Ignoring 7 paediatricians forcing them to apologies to the Letby “ victim” offering her a top job in another children’s hospital? …..does she have relatives or good friends of her parents within management? I wouldn’t be surprise with nepotism and favouritism that goes on in NHS health and social care.
Here in the U.S. we have saying, baby killers & molesters don't last long in prison.
Mr Benedict is absolutely clueless on this matter expecially when he highlighted that the crime discussed on the live TV is deemed likely as not a severe case, you clearly don't understand what suffering and pain the parents have to go through. It should be made compulsory for individuals that commit the criminal offence to face justice in a live hearing court case as a new legislation, they have taken the law into their own hands and we the public taxpayers have the right to put them in front for a fair hearing together with their accomplish CEOs of the crimes they've committed against humanity!!!!!
Absolutely disgusting that she didn’t have to face the grieving parents of those poor babies. I hope life is hell for her in prison and hell is where she ends up
Let’s hope it’s a public enquiry and not conducted behind closed doors.
Didn't he have a show and people committed suicide due to bulling ? His wife left him for cheating ? Same guy ?
How is that relevant?
Learn to spell mug oh yh your dad was on the show lol
Yes, and he used to hide behind security guards like a coward. I mentioned this earlier but my comment was deleted.
Lucy didn't want to go in the court room to hear about her crimes, see the faces of her victims and learn about her sentence. According to the law of the land, as it stands now, she has the right to do this. However, it doesn't surprise me because Lucy is evidently deeply detached from her feelings, and the feelings of others. That is why she was able to do what she did, and conduct her life as if all was well.
Would be a reality check for her.
Sure@@stevemccann4166
They'll only come when and IF she gets over denial
Baby's are angels
I'm finding it harder and harder to trust jury verdicts when so many now just seem to want to blame someone.
Way to many innocent people being found guilty and vice version course.
I wonder how her parents feel seeing a child they birthed and raised grew up to be someone capable of such deep deep evil. I would be in absolute despair and shock, I don’t think I’d be able to speak again ever, due to shock.
These executives that cost the life’s of all the babies should also be given life sentences. If it wasn’t for them a lot of babies would have survived at the hands of this evil women. They should not be allowed to resign and go live a happy life with there pension pots. They have ruined the life’s of many families it’s disgusting.
It should have been mandatory for this very canny and wicked person to be present, at court.
THE CHILDREN HAD NO CHOICE!!!
why the hell does she even have a choice?!
Those that discouraged the doctors from going to the police should be in prison too.
If you can have abortion rights, you should have capital punishments, the cognitive dissonance in saying abortions are ok but somehow capital punishment is not is totally appallingly oxymoronic.
Zygotes aren’t the same as actual people. Do try to keep up.
The state of modern britain is truly heartbreaking.
I'm so surprised as part of the common wealth that the UK doesnt make people attend sentencing, when in NZ and AUS you have too. Cost is negligible the prison makes runs every day to court and have dedicated staff to do this.
Someone should have dragged her from her cell by the hair to face those whose lives she has destroyed. Hopefully she be dealt with on the inside!
I'd like to know how she did it as well as the why ?
She mentioned in her notes that she wouldn't be able to get married or have children. I personally think it was an 'incel' killing. I.e. she was jealous of other couples' happiness about having a newborn baby, so she killed their baby. The fact she wanted to be present when the news was broke to them and even sent them sympathy cards said that she revelled in their grief.
@@jsf5219its worse than any horror film its real you can almost see her creeping about in the wards shes evil
@jsf5219 but why could she never marry?
@joolsfisher4888 would you marry her with a bent nose and eyes too wide apart for starters ?
@@gregy797 lol, and the wonky mouth ...
These news actors are very good at portraying human emotions.
I agree she should face the families however there is something being overlooked.. what happens if she faces the families and during the victim statements she starts smiling or laughing or chatting or basically not taking it seriously.. she hasn't anything to lose and they cant increase her sentence
Exactly that’s what I think as well
Sorry that’s a coward move! She took the most precious thing in their life from them in the most horrific way! A smile or anything else is least of their worries! They will just see the devil!!! She needs to face the consequences of her actions and face the people she destroyed
@shamiran what if she isn't remorseful and acts as so.. the whole point is for listening to impact statements is for her to listen to how it has impacted the families lives.. my point is how are the families going to feel if she started laughing or smiling or basically not caring. she may not feel remorseful to her it may have been a means to an end.. or she may be asked does she feel remorseful and she could say only at being caught not her actions
It really is irrelevant how she behaves. The process is vital . She should have appeared so that justice is seen to be done. If she did act out (unlikely) the court is accustomed to this and would deal with it . By all accounts she is not remorseful but for these individuals it is vital that they witness the sentencing and the person who destroyed their lives. It is their choice to attend or not. A convicted murderer should have no choice.
@Victoria-wz9ub my simple point is what if she doesn't care and isn't remorseful how will the families feel if she finds it amusing.. she may even get a kick watching the victims family breaking down its almost like she gets to live rent free in their heads forever.. as I previously said she is going to prison forever do you really think she cares about the kids she killed or the fact she's going to prison because she got caught.. the children were merely tools
If you have to be present in court for your trial, surely you should be present in court for the verdict.
She didn't have fear when she was murdering innocent and vulnerable babies. But now she is too afraid to face the consequences of her despicable murder spree
Was she found to be insane? She cant surely be normal.
Frogmarch her in, no if's but's or maybes.
I don’t get it either. She should have been required to be there to hear what the judge had to say.
Laziness and incompetence in management is unfortunately something that happens across the board in the UK. I doubt there Isn't any one of us who hasn't experienced it. This is the kind of culture that has existed in this country for far too long. Politicians are saying this needs to change, but I'm cynical that it will. How many times, have we heard people say, lessons have been learned and then the very same mistakes are made, time and time again.
Who's responsible for allowing these sick people to have these job titles.
These people are supposed to care.
There's no motive, money root of all evil.
To argue the cost of dragging her to court needs to be considered, it would be marginal. It would be a one off event, the parents surely deserve that.
It took one of my hospitals 3 months to get an MSW who was getting the narcotic keys in the ICU and stealing drugs. Who let her get those keys?
Unbelievable! Time for Lucy to find her own planet to live from now on
Exactly - a sound bite from the chief exec and nothing more.
The only way to resolve senior managers placing the reputation of the trust above patient lives (and it's rife in the NHS) is external accountability.
Nothing else will fix the problem.
Management needs to be arrested and charged
Nurses are educated to BE the patients ADVOCATE. There’s no word to describe her.
Nobody in the nhs found their heads rolling over savile, beverley allitt, Shipman and the rest but they all knew in the nhs, in the case of Shipman, 24 years the nhs knew. This will make a first IF anyone finally gets outed in any inquiry.
Narcissists get their control kicks where they can, I guess. And refusing to attend sentencing is an example of that.
I hope all them baby gets the best bed in heaven rip God bless them all 🙏🙏😢🙏
There should be CCTV on every neonatal ward asap!
At least it there would be camera evidence if god forbid something like this happened again.