"I'd Rather She Got The Death Sentence" - Lucy Letby SLAMMED For Missing Court Sentencing
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- JJ Anisiobi says the Lucy Letby case has given him goosebumps and he would have preferred if "she had the death sentence."
It comes as Lucy Letby will be sent copies of victim impact statements read out during her sentencing after refusing to appear in court.
The 33-year-old did not appear in the dock at Manchester Crown Court on Monday as she was given a whole-life order after being convicted of the murders of seven babies and the attempted murders of six more.
The judge, Mr Justice Goss, ordered that she be sent a transcript of his sentencing remarks and copies of the statements read out by the families of her victims.
He said: “The defendant, Lucy Letby, has refused to attend court for this sentence hearing. Accordingly, I have to sentence her in her absence.
“I shall deliver the sentencing remarks as if she was present to hear them. And I direct that she is provided with a transcript of my remarks and copies of the victim personal statements read to the court.”
The statement from the mother of twin boys Child E and Child F, who Letby was convicted of murdering and attempting to murder respectively, said her absence was “one final act of wickedness”.
She told the court: “Even in these final days of the trial she has tried to control things, the disrespect she has shown the families and the court show what type of person she is.
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Give Parents the pension the boss walked away with and give him prison
And if, in the future, the evidence is found wanting, what then? And WHY is the hospital not on trial???
Good question!
Or at least its executive board!
What do you mean ? Give everyone that managed or worked at the unit over that period of time a life sentence?
The COCH had a good reputation before this. Search for reviews of the hospital before 2015 and after 2016.
@@missperfectfeet The neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester hospital was like an open sewer, the plumber (who was a witness in the trial) stated he was often called out because raw sewage was leaking into the unit. It was a sh*thole.
The unit was also chaotic and shambolic with incompetent consultants and under trained staff.
@@ruthbashford3176 Letby said several times that was her dream job, she put a grievance against the consultants because she said she didn't like clerical work, she said many times they were a team, like family, she never filed any datix about the plumber, but she did about 'accidental air embolism'!! You're defending a murderer of babies, think about it!
What dignity? She is forced to go to prison anyway, and surely she can be forced to go into the courtroom. What if she says she doesn't want to live inside her prison cell because it's undignified? Simple logic.
I don’t think it’s the dignity of the criminal that matters. No one gives a hoot about HER dignity! It is the dignity of the judicial process that matters and what I think she is talking about.
@@jujutrini8412Dignity is just another word for soft then. This country could do better at punishing criminals, and should actually make life sentences longer than 25 years.
@@cyanidecapsule6275 Life sentences should always be for the rest of the person’s life in my opinion.
Charge the trust NHS managers & directors with health & safety, fine them personally & jail them for corporate manslaughter!
100%agree they should be punish instead of changing jobThe are the worst culprits!!!
Agree
Totally agree they should be held accountable as well
Is this woman kidding me? Undignifying?? She murdered innocent babies🤯
I am sorry but I cannot see how dignity and the murder of these babies can even be in the same sentence. Did she murder the babies with dignity? Could the law bring back the babies and take away the loss/trauma caused to the families with dignity too pls? I am sorry but I can’t understand it
@@ekl2947 Are we saying violence is the only way to make her come to court?
@@ekl2947she needs to be purged, period
I see her point but dignity is absolutely the wrong word to use. Sick new born or premature babies...you can't get more vulnerable than that. She took their lives without a care. She doesn't deserve 'dignity.'
Actually, there's no proof that she did any such thing. She was found guilty, but when the verdict is based upon circumstantual evidence it's an opinion - not fact.
I would love to see the management going to prison for life with her.
The compensation is a paltry sum, however it should be taken out of the managements salaries and any pensions. Ouch.
Agree
Yeah they need to be punished!
Its obvious this woman who is so concerned about the murderers dignity, did NOT have her baby murdered so painfully. I think she would have a different opinion if it were the case.😮
@@ekl2947if the parents want violence that should be their choice not the laws
@@ekl2947they have the chance to walk into court without anyone being dragged if necessary.
@@spinofthewheel5345 I would think most parents would want to murder anyone who murdered their child - that doesn’t mean the law should be vigilante justice. If we move to vigilante justice there’s no real argument as to why we should not have anarchy across the board as well.
Financially penalise the management who failed to act and add their 'contribution' to the 'compensation' fund.
Take their pensions away!!
She is why the death penalty needs to be on the books.
Death penalty would end up costing the tax payer more via automatic appeal then more appeals habeus corpus etc. Life without parole is cheaper
The families deserve to make the decision about whether she attends or not.
It doesn’t work like that, does it ??
She doesn`t deserve dignified treatment.
The dude sitting on the far left personifies the feelings of most of the population. Myself included.
@@ekl2947violence is necessary for cases like this. If someone you loved was killed u would probably buy them MC donalds
@@ekl2947 it's not about what u want they ain't ur kids the parents should be allowed to do whatever they want with her
@@ekl2947 what do u think
He's nowhere near the far left, he wants the DEATH PENALTY! HA HA HA!
No, but seriously, I do not believe in the death penalty. Countries who have it are the most dangerous in the world.
People need to be present for their sentence. There is no need for her to be dragged anywhere by the hair, simply collected - like police officers do every day - and hear Judgment imposed upon her and in the face of her victims. That is justice.
lucy knew she would get a life sentence because of the way the hearing was going!! therefore why should she give a crap about appearing in court in front of the families? the number of darts being thrown at her continues to grow, exposing the 'lynch mob' mentality of the british people - who hate her so much they want her to die!!
personally, i think lucy is as scapegoat in a cover up!!
Justice would NEVER involve the conviction of someone who has not been proven guilty. There is no justice in this case - just a determination to convict someone. Anyone.
i agree! i also think lucy should appeal & ask for a retrial for the reason that a verdict was reached on conjecture, not proof!!
andrew malkinson would agree with you!!@@paulroberts7544
Undignified, is that woman for real.
And dragging letby by her hair to attend her hearing, would not take place, she would be escorted. How rediculous is that woman, who herself hasn't had a baby murdered by Letby.
Because she would think differently if she had.
@@BeverleyGell i would say, 'allegedly murdered by lucy'!!
she was found guilty without any real evidence, only circumstantial& with no witnesses!
the jury was biased because it included 7 women to 4 men! the women would have been more emotive in decision making! also, the jury were not 100& in agreement
at times!
i think lucy is a scapegoat in a cover up which includes doctors jayaram & breaerey!!
Because a murdered baby gasping for life was afforded ‘dignity’ by Letby? Silly woman.
Women will always defend their own kind, just like when 90% of blacks defended OJ Simpson when he killed two people.
A short drop from the gallows at Tyburn needs reintroducing for such cases, far cheaper than wasting tax payers money on keeping her locked up for decades
Yeah! Lets go back to Hang Drawing and quartering. Boiling, Burning at the Stake, The Breaking Wheel. Oh even better.... Impaling! That was a good one wasn't it!!??? Oh yeah let's not forget about Flaying!
Honestly, get a grip!!
The other women at the prison will inflict justice on her. She will never be left in peace.
That’s probably not true. Myra Hindley died of a smoking-related disease, Rose West is still alive and well
What's that woman talking about "dragged by her hair"? Letby is the sole reason for this court case. She should be required to attend every moment of it.
The hospital management need to be held accountable for their NEGLIGENCE!
The behaviour of the NHS managers doesn't really surprise me. The fact they referred to the concerns of MEDICAL professionals as being 'bullying' (and demanding an apology from them to LL) really reflects the degree to which these people are out of touch with reality. These same people are those that don't even acknowledge the biological realities of their patients, and have the arrogance to demand compliance to their will.
Definitely death sentence for this heinous crime
They parents should never face another medical bill again
In the uk, healthcare is free.
@@dogboy5398 well that's just being pernikity isn't it?? Yes we pay taxes, but even if I dont pay any taxes, I would still receive healthcare with no bill. Plus its completely different paying a tax to cover a number of services, to paying an itemized bill of say £3000 for a single operation..
@@dogboy5398 I do care how its spent actually!
@@dogboy5398 here here!!
Its not free if you pay tax's that fund something
The problem is we in The West have this this silly notion that everyone has rights even killers
I agree. They bang on about the human rights of the killer, but ignore the human right of the victim. The death penalty should be brought back.
Anyone who commits murder or rape or causes lifelong injury to a person has given up their human rights when they abused and assaulted another human being. They should have no rights after committing deliberate acts of violence
@@scousemouse9715 and what if later down the line someone who was given the death penalty is found innocent. wasn't there recently a news story of a man who has spent a good fair deal of his life in prison for the rape and murder of a woman. only for it to turn out he didn't do it.
Either everyone has rights or none of us do. Remember - there was no proof of guilt in this case. A person can be convicted and sentenced to life in prison based entirely upon circumstantial evidence. This means it can happen to any of us - wrong place, wrong time and YOU could be convicted to life in prison. This is why it's so important to defend the human rights of everyone.....because one day it could be you.
@@paulroberts7544 All the evidence, including testimonial, shows guilt. But hey people believed Ted Bundy too so I'm not surprised you're saying this. We have the best technology today that would help people to find out exactly what happened and who was the perpetrator. There's less reason for mistakes today than 50 years ago. And if someone commits a deliberate act of violence then they should lose their human rights. But that's just how what I think. We can agree to disagree.
So hard to believe that someone is possible of doing such things , and for so long . So sick
it's beyond words.
You’d be surprised by some of the people that work in medical wards
It is horrific. In recent times two cases have shook me. The other involved another person in a trusted position. Couzens and the evil murder of Sarah Everard. He was in the Police supposedly protecting the public and she was a nurse supposedly looking after babies. Its unbelievable.
I can't believe this woman is worried about this murderer's "dignity"! Ffs love!!
This woman is beneath humanitarian treatment. The tiny babies were murdered in such a cowardly sick manner. The poor parents have to live with this knowledge. DIGNIFIED??! What about the babies. Give me a break.
Drag by hair ? Wtf she’s on something
When babies pile high you go to the police, not your wage supplier. The doctors are almost as guilty as her.
They should play tapes of all the impact statements on a loud speaker in her cell 24 hours a day for a week, firce her to listen
She would put something in her ears then she couldn’t hear it
“She shouldn’t be dragged by her hair”? Well done that man who said “I bang her hair head on every step! 👏🏻👏🏻
I don't see what's so expensive about a scaffold and a piece of rope
Id rather she got the death sentence, but id then like that same law to be mandatory to anyone who takes a life, all these stabbings all the people should also face the death penalty i still dont understand why we dont have mandatory sentencing here in the UK so people know their fate before they commit the crime.
Youd need a very clear line as to what constitutes for a death sentence taking a life is too vague and would mean someone who jumps in front of a car and dies would mean the driver gets a death sentence
This woman should have been forced back into court, to face victims families, it would be part of her punishment, just my opinion
If she was that evil she would just laugh at the victims families, what would that achieve exactly?
Convicted criminals of serious crimes must be present for sentencing which includes impact statements other countries do this including America why are we so crap at applying fair and just process?
Given the fact she trolled the Families I wonder if LL would enjoy the impact she had on them.Generally I would like the Parents to choose.
it's fucking terrible. My blood boils.
The desth penalty is too quick,let her rot in there fir the rest of her life. RIP for the victims .
It is becoming obvious to more and more people that Lucy Letby is innocent.
All worrying, just as the guy that did 17 years in prison for a rape, now let free because it is proved he didn't do it. Then seemingly proved just as guilty at the time by all involved as Lucy Letby is now. Is the detailed evidence detailed enough?
Very valid point
DNA exonerates false rapists. Letby left written confessions and didn't deny the accusations when she was arrested.
GUILTY
That is completely different. The police witheld evidence. You cannot see the difference?
@@janlittle2148 not comparing cases. Just accepting cases can be wrong.
17 years ago most people would have supported a now proven innocent man to be hung
Do you not see the difference
The Government needs to work "at pace" on so many things but dont. When Covid Pandemic came, Legislation was brought in super fast. Why aren't important Laws just fast tracked every week? The issues that are imperative to be dealt with must be attended to immediately.
The system in this country protected her time and time again! The penalty should fit the crime. Some of those babies she murdered suffered and were in pain before they took their last breath. The parents, family members and friends of the family will suffer emotionally and psychologically for the rest of their lives, while this evil witch still pleads her innocence.
Yes, she will never have the opportunity to leave prison, but she should be made to suffer while there.
Oh she will suffer. That I have full faith in. Nothing more brutal than inmates
@@jamiebrooks3864 your quite right about inmates being brutal but she will be serigated from everybody else nobody will get near her
@@suejones2815 trust me. They will. They always do
We sre very weak on punishment
Bring back the head slap as said in knowing me knowing you
Short term sedation, then put them in a standing Cage with head arm and leg restraints, gag them and put eye clips in so they can’t close their eyes.
Yes lets. After all, if we're going to convict people without proof of wrong doing we might as well throw out all pretence of beign a civilized country.
Why would there be an option for the guilty person to be able to decline there presence in front of the judge and court room when the verdict is passed down?
In America, you have no choice but to hear the victim impact statements. You have to stand facing the victims and hearing them all talk for two days or more. They can say whatever they want to you and it’s all televised. With the camera zooming in onto your face as you are crying. Now that’s enough for me to never commit a crime.
But for some seeing the defendant laugh, shout obscenities, Say they're glad they did it can be harrowing, if they are at risk of this i believe she should have it wired into cell speakers at loud volume so she has to hear it one way or the other.
What is this woman on about.
None of these speakers have seen how Hannibal Lecter was restrained when he was transported !
30K is a joke million minimum.some of them families spent over 30k for ivf just for their baby to be murdered
She should be given death penalty for such serious crimes. She is total disgrace to humanity. What she has done by killing 7 infant babies is simply unthinkable!!
What you have to remember is the parents in all of this she committed these heinous crimes the parents didn’t don’t forget that they too are suffering a life sentence. Yes I get it totally but personally I would find a way so that the perpetrator has to listen justly.
Do you all remember that the prosecution's main argument is that she was the common denominator in all 17 infants and 22 incidents in the case?
What if I told you there weren't 17 infants. There were 32. 17 deaths and 15 non-fatal collapses, and they only chose to charge the ones she WAS present for?
What if I told you she had hand written by her letters In her house where she confessed to the crimes and none of the other nurses or doctors had such letters.
@@andrewbarnard667 what if I told you that one note, containing such a statement, starts with "I've done nothing wrong" and it was written after the accusations, after losing her job and after the first police search of her home?
@@andrewbarnard667 cause I'd think it was a forced confession brought on by that stress.
@@AmpCee I've done nothing wrong. Well
That just means she doesn't think she has. Many serial killers don't think they have done anything wrong. It's often god that spoke to them or a voice in their head.
She had been googling the family's that's not done by the rest of the profession.
@@AmpCee the letters in her house were written before she was arrested.
She gets to live and we will pay to feed her for life. It is ridiculous.
Don't forget - there was no proof off guilt in this case. Just conjecture and circumstantual evidence. Our CJS is such that a jury is urged to find someone guilty if they 'think' they are guilty.
Would you really support the killing of a potentially innocent person? For that matter - do you think it acceptable that an innocent person can spend their life in prison for a crime that quite possibly never occured? There is after all no proof that any baby was murdered. At the time they were thought to have died of natural causes. It was only 'expert opinion' years later that led to them being considered murders.
@@paulroberts7544 even with a confession nobody would never have a clear picture. Sadly no baby can talk and 7 passed away.
Crimes against kids such as sexual abuse sometimes get sentences without fiscal evidence usually because they are reported years after etc
She couldn’t be sentenced if they do not have a solid case: autopsies and hospital records (you can say everything is circumstantial or that maybe someone else did it ? If so who? ) but what about the letters found in her house?
THIS WOMAN LOST HER DIGNITY, THE DAY SHE TOOK THE LIFE OF THE FIRST BABY.
Assuming that's what happened. But that's all anyone is doing - assuming. There is no proof.
They shouldn't be allowed any visitors, any phone calls, any TV, radio, nothing. Just four padded walls, toilet and bed. Can you imagine 60 plus years of that ?
Criminal in front of a screen in the prison, so they are made to watch and hear the whole courtroom proceedings. In the courtroom a screen showing the criminal in prison, but without any sound, just the images. The victims in the courtroom can watch the criminal if they want to, or not, their choice. This also avoids the security risks of moving the prisoner to the court along with the associated costs.
What dignity does she deserve seriously? She murdered 7innocent babies that's horrifying and unforgivable. The managers too should be held accountable not just 'suspended' from their jobs
What a whack-job,wonder if she was given the wrong sentence due 2connections of sorts!Babies r human 2(no amt.of money)can replace a,child,deliberately killed by their own staff??!!Wht a cop-out??!!!!!
I would give her the death sentence if it was my choice. But I don't think she will last long in prison I think the hospital needs a public enquiry, all suspicions should be taken seriously. Trusting an employer especially in the care sector is the least you must ask for.
I agree , give her 10yrs , then death penalty .
I think bring back the head slap
Agree totally she should have been in court.
Nope, strap them into a wheelchair. And wheel them in, to see how their actions have affected their victims families.
Then strap her to a gurney on her way out!
The compensation should be paid by the failed managers who let this nurse carry on her killing.
2:20 Oh dear...I was hoping it wasn't him who called for the death penalty, given the information I've found on this case, which suggests it's not clear-cut at all...And calling for Lucy's death after Ceon Broughton got away with Louella Fletcher Mitchie's murder is a nasty twist.
She didn't want to hear the conviction because she is maintaining her innocence. Guess what. . juries and courts get it wrong ALL THE TIME!!!!
They should have put her the dock before anyone else is allowed in the courtroom? No civil remedy for parents?
Management should be brought to justice as well.
If the victims don’t want to see the perpetrator then they don’t have to go to court. It’s about the criminal and the people of the land. They should be in the docks, I can’t believe it’s even up for discussion.
The prison service is like a hotel if prison was prison and dont have everything in prison i would agree with you but its a easy life when some people yoday have problems paying there bills
Although this case is unbelievably appalling and sickening, and clearly there is a lot of outrage about it, we cannot go back to the middle ages where people were tortured and brutally executed for their crimes, or even turn time back a few decades when people were hanged for such crimes in the UK. I will however say this : being kept in a relatively comfortable cell for the rest of a person’s life with access to a library, TV, internet, a gymnasium etc in my view is insufficient punishment for such crimes. We need to rethink our judicial system in the UK because allowing a person who has murdered people to live happily ever after in a 3-star hotel environment at taxpayers’ cost is an insult to Britain’s law-abiding citizens.
"Have her head banged every two steps" 😅 this is hilarious heck of justice. I agree 💯.
The right to make a decision not to appear in court, should not be an option. They are criminals and need to face the consequences of their actions.
With todays science, with evidence proving someone's guilt, to such heinous crime's, the death penalty would be appropriate. Its a pity the uk diesnt have that option.
Pity the families dont have a say on sentancing.
The authorities who allowed this monster to carry out her sicking crimes need to be dharged, ading and abetting possibly?🤔
It is not her dignity but the way we treat this woman in a way that lowers our dignity to her level! Never lower ourselves to their level. The gentleman for death is simply behaving the same as Letby and her ilk, he is lowering himself and becoming more a vigilante, which is barbaric in itself! This is the 21st century, not the medieval ages. We have to rise above such behaviour, if our world is ever going to become one, all together, harmonised!
Money is not going to being back the babies the management and also letbey should rot in jail
I don't think she be dragged by her hair
Is this a particular British law? The criminal not having to be present for sentencing and victim impact statement seems very strange. Doesn’t happen in Australia
Make sure she doesn’t have any contact with her family
It doesn’t work like that, does it ?? As you well know …….. This is just performative anger.
I don't believe the death penalty is the right path to go down, we have to look at the myriad factors in this case, the institutional issues, how we can prevent this happening in the future, how someone can end up in this psychological state, you can't respond to violence with violence.
She’s a psychopath. She will forever laugh about the crimes tht she committed. And she will be angered by the fact she can’t get out and kill more.
Life is good in one way. The murderer is not relieved of their guilt via the death penalty.
Managers having the power to override clinicians in a clinical matter is blatant stupidity
Did others on that NICU ward see that the deaths and traumatic injuries were on the rise with Letby there? They had to to realize that something was suspicious. Besides those 2 brave Doctors, why didn't any of them come forth? Were they that BLIND? The entire personnel roster must be changed to protect babies.
The UK hasn’t had the death penalty for 60 years.
They need to do way instain nurse> who kill thier babbys, becuse these babby cant fright back? It was on the news this mroing a nurse in ar who had kill her seven kids, they are taking the seven babby back to new york too lady to rest. my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots🙏😩🙏🙏🙏
British People dont behave like animals in Court. That would bring it down to the level of the criminals. The Courts behaviour has to be above that. If the studio guest doesn't realise that, then he is thick. New Rules & methods have to be broughtin for sentencing to be heard. Perhaps a camera & tv screen directky viewing into the Convicted Persons Cell, so they have to hear the sentence & the family can see their reaction to that, might be a possibility.
Lucy will get protection in prison. What a shame.
Shes not gonna last long in prison I think.
13k is that it , you cant put a price on life that is disgusting and even so they should get over 100k each and that murder should of been in court for the sentence to help them see that justice was given.
If they are proper custodial officers they dont neeed to drag her by her hair but she is standing in the dock to face her victims.
I'm a fan of the death sentence but only for a smoking gun,it's not "Clear cut" this case is very theoretical and had almost no direct evidence, if appealed it could be overturned
Overturn 13 full life tariffs. I doubt it.
Bring back the death penalty for ALL CHILD ABUSERS
What about the head slap
I would not have appeared to face a false conviction sentence either - had I been WRONGLY accused of a crime I did not commit…..Lucy saying ( by not attending her sentencing) : “ I am NOT guilty, therefore I will not be attending this charade”.
She will have a fan page and apologists in a heartbeat. Best her name be banned and her identify expunged. Deny her the attention she craves.
Scapegoating???😢
Oh no, not James Max, he never makes sense.
The prison she is being sent to is luxurious, many pensioners would like to live there.
Except that, she is Not Guilty. The reason she did not turn up for sentencing is because she is letting them know she is innocent.
Hold on … on moral grounds you have a problem taking a baby killers life but on moral grounds you are ok about her staying alive in prison for the rest of her life, looking over her shoulder, getting attacked and mutilated by fellow inmates , the psychological an physical beatings she will receive. Lady make your argument make sense, what sounds like the most moral thing to do , put it down or keep it around to torture it for the rest of its life.
There is so much more to this case than meets the main stream media. And this channel is main streem. Yes we are all so sad for the parents of these very premature sick babies. I ask you to find one serial killer of the past that throughout their lives showed impeccable behaviour as Lucy Letby has done. There was no truancy from school no dropping out of school no negative reports from old friends who today testify to her innocence. No drinking too excess or drug taking. No negative reports from her nursing career. She was a dedicated conscientious nurse whose only sin if you will was caring too much about the families and babies. The doctors were being sued for negligence at the time. The place was understaffed and the water was contaminated. There were no autopsies nobody saw her doing anything untoward. The doctors were frantic to find a reason for this increase in deaths. She might not wanted to face the sentence because she was innocence. im happy there is going to be another trial. As it seems the doctors were above reproach. And the way you all are so quick to condemn this woman just tells me how nasty you all are. There could have been another explanation for the rise in death such as a rogue virus or infection. We will see. The Atlitt woman showed strange behaviour and insulin was found in all of them
A whole life sentence behind bars is far worse than a death sentence where her suffering is over immediately. So I say no to the death sentence.
Exactly!
She's not normal though she's all "poor me".
What was going through her head when she committed these horrendous crimes she isn’t normal why would you kill innocent babies
Amongst the general prison population who will " take real care of her " her life in there should be a LIVING HELL
Me too, but for different reasons. When you kill someone...you are another murderer. Nothing to do with religion.
What about if the person is in a room with audio, so she can hear the sentence and a Camera so the people can see her, problem resolved,. this is not one of the worst crimes, the worst ever.
0:04 LOL for a cold blooded killer that is a funny face.
Having said that, Jordan McSweeney is one of the few cases where I'd be unequivocally in favour of the death penalty.
Mostly because I think he is a genuine example of someone not capable of being rehabilitated.
He will always pose an unacceptable danger to other human beings, and won't even contribute anything valuable to society.
Letby may well fulfill the first criteria, however I think she is probably more intelligent and less of a waste of space than Jordan McSweeney, even if she can just crochet, knit, read or write letters.
She's not necessarily incapable of contributing something valuable from her prison cell.
He is incapable.
Society would be better off without him entirely.
But then, the state doesn't really have the right to kill anybody, so there we are back to square one. Just keep him/them locked up so society can be safe.
A GREAT pity that the government of the time, saw fit to abolish the capital penalty!
Unless it actually EXPECTED potential killers to stand up and confess that they had considered murdering their spouse/sibling(s)/parent(s), et al, but had been deterred by the possibility of being caught and hanged (or whatever) ... then its claim that it didn't deter murderers, rang hollow, then!
And it rings hollow, today!
It is considered acceptable for a jury to 'guess' someone's guilt or innocence. In this case - probably as in most cases - there is no proof of guilt. Just circumstantial evidence. How can you sentence potentially innocent people to death? I don't think you should be convicting potentially innocent people - even life in prison is horrific when you appreciate that it's so easy to convict innocent people.
@@paulroberts7544: In my experience, most jurors rely on two or three of the jury members who seem to have a grasp of the case, and the evidence, and will go with THEIR conclusions.
Experience based on having served on a jury ... though what seems a lifetime ago.