Understanding Strategic Ideas | Karpov vs. Kamsky 1992 - GM Ben Finegold

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  • @Nic_DM
    @Nic_DM 5 лет назад +355

    I'm pretty sure the Tal Memorial is named after Mr. Memorial.

    • @ikinoktace1280
      @ikinoktace1280 4 года назад +19

      People discredit Mr. Memorial too much nowadays

    • @joeljose182
      @joeljose182 3 года назад +5

      Named before*

    • @michaellhoover94
      @michaellhoover94 3 года назад +9

      Show the proper respect!! That's Grandmaster Memorial!!!!

    • @otakurocklee
      @otakurocklee 3 года назад +5

      Yes because Mr. Memories was really tall.

  • @wizardseye
    @wizardseye 11 лет назад +83

    His lectures are even funnier in person. He tends to give those in the room a hard time which is hilarious when you know everyone he's talking about.

    • @orangebetsy
      @orangebetsy 2 года назад +4

      haha awesome. i can't stop laughing when he breaks the 4th wall with those hilarious looks.

  • @herzwatithink9289
    @herzwatithink9289 10 лет назад +242

    My favourite player, Anatoly Karpov, covered by my favourite analyst, Ben Finegold. Doesn't get any better!

  • @BrezHurley
    @BrezHurley 8 лет назад +354

    Don't castle into checkmate unless you are playing me.
    ~Ben Finegld

  • @re4072
    @re4072 8 лет назад +493

    "What did Kamsky do to stop mate?" "resign"

  • @mrtampham
    @mrtampham 6 лет назад +72

    Strategic ideas are soooo good. When he owned the f file and then went back to control the c file. I would have 100% pushed my kingside pawns and sacrifice something to break open the king.
    This teaches me so much about positioning, preventing opponent's good moves, and patience.

    • @jpg6296
      @jpg6296 6 лет назад +3

      Haha, though I prefer the wizardry of Tal, I agree with you, we must first learn strategy and solid positional play before we can have a basis for other styles.

  • @johngreco8498
    @johngreco8498 10 лет назад +475

    This guy is wayyyy funnier than his class gave him credit for. I would have been laughing too hard if I was in the class haha

    • @WalyB01
      @WalyB01 6 лет назад +4

      The knight might go there later.....

    • @gregoroque
      @gregoroque 6 лет назад +7

      "That makes our bishop not happy" - cracked me up

    • @joseruiz844
      @joseruiz844 6 лет назад +2

      Totally agree. He is very funny indeed!

    • @ronclass1782
      @ronclass1782 5 лет назад +1

      I figured that out in less than a minute

    • @msDanielp369
      @msDanielp369 5 лет назад +1

      He's the coolest GM ever!! I dare you name a cooler one

  • @1rauno
    @1rauno 8 лет назад +169

    "Mate is good, because then you win!"

  • @EVANGELOSS54
    @EVANGELOSS54 5 лет назад +34

    Finegold is possibly the best chess commentator in the world ... I would love it if he did some A0 vs Stockfish games analysis

  • @spartnstarcraft2
    @spartnstarcraft2 10 лет назад +13

    this class under appreciates his humor so much. Great analysis in tandem with the jokes always make his lectures the easiest to follow and retain the information. Plz more of Ben.

  • @samsadax230
    @samsadax230 10 месяцев назад +3

    Karpov's positional skills are unmatched.

  • @stopit405
    @stopit405 4 года назад +7

    His one-liners are so great. I enjoy them every single time.

  • @mitchellhodgemeyer
    @mitchellhodgemeyer 8 лет назад +27

    This is my favourite of Ben's lectures (although the Paul Morphy ones are awesome too).

    • @rafaelgmota
      @rafaelgmota 8 лет назад +7

      Typical Morphy opponent... Terrible! xD

  • @aliveli-hq6zk
    @aliveli-hq6zk 8 лет назад +137

    "When you play Nc2, it is really hard to play Rc2."

  • @LexFloyd
    @LexFloyd 9 лет назад +68

    I really felt the pressure to answer at 36:22

    • @fisheatsyourhead
      @fisheatsyourhead 6 лет назад +9

      highschool flashbacks of not paying attention and being called for an answer

    • @thijsyo
      @thijsyo 5 лет назад +6

      The Tal Memorial, named after mister Memorial

  • @ss9392
    @ss9392 3 года назад +5

    My favourite game by far, Karpov's style really stands out to me

  • @walterparker2641
    @walterparker2641 10 лет назад +7

    The most concise and instructional chess lecture I have encountered on RUclips,

  • @joseluisparreno4999
    @joseluisparreno4999 8 лет назад +3

    One of the best videos by Ben Finegold.

  • @StygianStyle
    @StygianStyle 9 лет назад +40

    I keep coming back to these vids for the jokes.

  • @boschmidt7824
    @boschmidt7824 11 лет назад +4

    Amazing lecture, explaining with humor the ideas behind every move. Simply great.

  • @ivek7773
    @ivek7773 10 лет назад +9

    Man this guy just made my day

  • @MyRook
    @MyRook 11 лет назад +3

    Great example showing how space advantage gives you all the options(attack and defense).Great piece coordination.

  • @Uerdue
    @Uerdue 4 года назад +7

    3:44 Of course we've heard of him! He's a famous f***ing legend!

  • @iamnahidashrafuday
    @iamnahidashrafuday Год назад

    These lectures are so helpful. His detailed explanations cooperate to understand middle game better!

  • @Crazeyfor67
    @Crazeyfor67 11 лет назад +3

    Ben always makes chess fun. I surely missed his coverage at this years U.S. Championship. Yasser did a good job,,but the chemistry of Ben & Jen was superb. Watching their coverage last year made me jump up and drive to St.Louis (from Louisville) to experience the show live. Some of the post game interviews by Maurice Ashley were a bit cheesy and the excitement wasn't there. It all seemed contrived and slightly forced. Ben's coverage is easy and natural. Thanks for the lecture SLT CC

  • @Samuel-cu9vo
    @Samuel-cu9vo 5 лет назад +3

    I love the fact that someone was shocked about the knight going to a8 at 17:40

  • @petersodhi1762
    @petersodhi1762 8 лет назад +6

    Superb analysis and presentation

  • @rgsliwa8298
    @rgsliwa8298 7 лет назад +1

    A very good lesson by big Ben Finegold. Health is wealth so you can keep teaching.

  • @Grandcapi
    @Grandcapi 9 лет назад +1

    Very instructive and funny!! Ben is good for young players, he knows how to make them learn and laugh at the same time. It was the first time I watched him on youtube and loved it.

  • @orlandorodriguez1291
    @orlandorodriguez1291 6 лет назад +9

    Watching this in 2018, I find his humor smirkable at most then I remember they're usually kids/teens then I laugh my ass off!

  • @bhuvanc4992
    @bhuvanc4992 10 лет назад +11

    As entertaining as instructive...awesome video!

  • @mathewmgmg
    @mathewmgmg 9 лет назад +9

    Excellent lecture sir...watched it twice!!
    One of the best lecturers here along with Yasser Seirawan

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 11 лет назад

    That's a valuable lesson that I learned after being swiftly crushed by a 2200. It's not sufficient to just do what you want to do, but to proactively prevent your opponent's plan. My rating has since improved dramatically!

  • @mottian
    @mottian 9 лет назад +85

    5:56 "That's something that we should probably talk about for an hour because I get paid by the hour" :D

    • @followingtheroe1952
      @followingtheroe1952 9 лет назад +16

      +Martino Garonzi Sounds like something a "Finegold" would say.

    • @itrofimow
      @itrofimow 9 лет назад +3

      +Myrdred Deceiver its just what he said

  • @toastersman217
    @toastersman217 11 лет назад +4

    A very instructive video! Thank you!

  • @tze-weilim1632
    @tze-weilim1632 9 лет назад +25

    I like GM Finegold. He's really funny here.

  • @daveanthony3880
    @daveanthony3880 8 лет назад +6

    FINEGOLD IS A CHESS GOD

  • @xhemalvezi3999
    @xhemalvezi3999 6 лет назад

    It's impossibile to get bored with him. I would pay a lot of money just to follow one of his lessons.

  • @tharkanzox1493
    @tharkanzox1493 7 лет назад +1

    We need ben finegold back

  • @Dontfollowplease
    @Dontfollowplease 8 лет назад +36

    Took 78 seconds for him to mention Paul Morphy xD I love it!

  • @oshanmodi
    @oshanmodi 10 лет назад

    I am your fan.. Ben Finegold.. very helpful illustrations...

  • @iehudim
    @iehudim 10 лет назад +2

    thank you for this precious videos

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 11 лет назад +5

    "That's something we should talk about for an hour... because I get paid by the hour... right?" friggin hilarious!

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 2 года назад +1

    Karpov, a very interesting game. Finegold, a very interesting player & commentator

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 10 лет назад

    Instructive lecture, thanks a lot!

  • @johnmichael642
    @johnmichael642 6 лет назад

    wow the best chess channel i have ever seen O_O

  • @craig7102
    @craig7102 10 лет назад +3

    thanks you gave me some idea's hadn't thought of

  • @anasbouayad6826
    @anasbouayad6826 6 лет назад +1

    Karpov's gameplay is really magnificent

  • @kingcarisma
    @kingcarisma 8 лет назад +220

    Finegolds jokes are very suspicious...but his teaching is not...Cudos..

    • @federicogarcia4446
      @federicogarcia4446 8 лет назад +41

      +kingcarisma oh thats not true, his jokes part from a premise equal or boring and then slowy improve to a better and winning punch line, he's jokes are solid.

    • @kingcarisma
      @kingcarisma 8 лет назад +3

      Your`e correct!

    • @adatta3046
      @adatta3046 8 лет назад +16

      His jokes are just terrible.

    • @Spiderhip
      @Spiderhip 8 лет назад +57

      Why is his jokes are suspicious? You with the wrong answer.

    • @johnkom2339
      @johnkom2339 7 лет назад +3

      His jokes are at your expense. Sarcasm but keeps the pace lively.

  • @johnhechtlinger9465
    @johnhechtlinger9465 6 лет назад

    nice lecture....that Karpov game was impressive....

  • @joseruiz844
    @joseruiz844 6 лет назад

    You make these explanations really enjoyable and vivid. Thanks a lot Ben!

  • @dangelobenjamin
    @dangelobenjamin 11 лет назад

    Both, it's awesome. You learn a lot from Ben!

  • @TheConcentrationmoon
    @TheConcentrationmoon 8 лет назад +13

    i dont understand why some portions are edited. Its suspicious!!

  • @orangebetsy
    @orangebetsy 2 года назад

    The quote that sums it all up for me: "Karpov likes different things than I do"

  • @myriadwhims
    @myriadwhims 11 лет назад

    I really enjoyed this lecture! Thanks!

  • @ThePawn-xi3zb
    @ThePawn-xi3zb 6 лет назад +1

    14:08 He glued the pieces into the board.

  • @Tobias-fe2hm
    @Tobias-fe2hm 6 лет назад

    Thank you for uploading

  • @JamesJones-oq7hy
    @JamesJones-oq7hy 10 лет назад

    your lectures are awesome

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 3 года назад

    Great game. Great explanation.

  • @tims7174
    @tims7174 7 лет назад +2

    That picture in the beginning though....

  • @mottian
    @mottian 9 лет назад +11

    6:30 "So, you go to the store and you buy chicken. Right Ben?"

  • @logansoileau8238
    @logansoileau8238 4 года назад +1

    The St. Louis chess club is found is in the city of Club.

  • @youngadultsuis
    @youngadultsuis 10 лет назад +9

    Ben Finegold for president!!!!

  • @manictiger
    @manictiger 7 лет назад +10

    Did you know this isn't even Karpov's final form?
    Later on, he fuses with IBM's 'Deep Blue' to become Deep Karpov, during the second 1997 match against Kasparov.

    • @arsenalfanrichi
      @arsenalfanrichi 7 лет назад +1

      I swear Karpov was a computer.

    • @LuisManuelLealDias
      @LuisManuelLealDias 6 лет назад

      jesus christ, deep blue was as much of an anti-karpov as possible.

  • @CentrifugalSatzClock
    @CentrifugalSatzClock 6 лет назад

    With black already castled the Gruenfeld is not as good as when black has NOT castled yet and can use the tempo centrally to cause white problems. Kamsky playing C6 makes a LOT of sense!

  • @Crazeyfor67
    @Crazeyfor67 11 лет назад

    Actually I haven't watched it all yet. But I will keep your remark about Kamsky's mistakes in mind while viewing.

  • @TexasSizzle
    @TexasSizzle 11 лет назад

    Awesome lecture Ben! Also very funny!

  • @RonakBadhe
    @RonakBadhe 7 лет назад

    Conrad Holt was born in Kansas @23:32

  • @joshuahunter7972
    @joshuahunter7972 4 года назад

    Is that a new touch screen? Bens stepping up in the world.

  • @pfsloan8230
    @pfsloan8230 11 лет назад +1

    ...unless you're playing me...can't stop laughing...can't breathe...passing out. OK I may be exaggerating but Ben is a (Grand) master at making a point with such pointed humor one can't help but remember the lesson.

  • @gmcenroe
    @gmcenroe 9 лет назад

    really nice lecture and funny at the same time

  • @meenay2728
    @meenay2728 7 лет назад +1

    East or west Ben is the best

  • @illmaculatechess
    @illmaculatechess 11 лет назад +3

    i watched this lecture super blazed laughed my ass off

  • @harleykf1
    @harleykf1 4 года назад +1

    Leela says that 20...Nc6 was a significant inaccuracy. Recommending (I kid you not)... Na8 instead (I'm guessing to prepare b5)

    • @harleykf1
      @harleykf1 4 года назад

      I think 28... Qh4 was also a decent try for a draw. Fianchettoing the queen was possibly a mistake too. Honestly this game is a pain to analyse even with computers :P

    • @harleykf1
      @harleykf1 4 года назад

      Ultimately though it was probably Nd8 and b5 that were too passive. Well specifically playing b5 first made a lot more sense.

  • @johnrainmcmanus6319
    @johnrainmcmanus6319 10 лет назад +2

    Bh6 immediately (instead of f6) leads to mate, I think.

    • @krippp
      @krippp 10 лет назад +1

      Bh6 is much worse, though White retains a bishop for 2 connected passed pawns.
      After Karpov's 49.f6+, his queen gets to f6 instead of g7, immediately ready to support a Bf3+. And if ..Kxh4, then also ready for Qf4#. It's mate in 9, because in that way Bf3 remains lethal.
      With 49.Bh6+, after the obvious 49..Kxh6 50.Qf8+ Bg7 51.g5+ Kh5 52.Qxg7, black would play 52..Qd3, and the Black queen blocks the 3rd rank from Kg3. Then, after the eventual Bf3+ with the White queen's support, Black's king can just take the pawn on h4 and avoid mate, having had plenty of time to bring his queen to e3, preventing Qf4#. So White would have to win some other way, and that game's gonna take a long time, giving drawing chances for Black.

    • @sleepyeyeguy
      @sleepyeyeguy 10 лет назад

      Go Dog Go! XD

  • @thorn35
    @thorn35 5 лет назад

    Conrad Holt is a grandmaster born in Witchita Kansas.

  • @sooooooooDark
    @sooooooooDark 3 года назад

    43:43
    man id be really curious what the thought process is behind pushing (/sacrificing) the pawns the specific way white does there
    very hard for non titled players to understand 😢

  • @josephschenkel8956
    @josephschenkel8956 6 лет назад +1

    What is the difference between a 'tactic' and a 'strategy' both in general and in the context of chess?

    • @daims8728
      @daims8728 6 лет назад

      Joseph Schenkel to my level of understanding when we talk about tactics it’s short terms move strategy is more about mid-long term move

    • @josephschenkel8956
      @josephschenkel8956 6 лет назад

      @@daims8728 Thanks!

    • @LuisManuelLealDias
      @LuisManuelLealDias 6 лет назад

      @@josephschenkel8956 tactics are 3-6 move shorts that are kind of forced and calculated, usually to win pieces or to get to a different state in the board (short term but very precise). Strategy is your overall vague ideas about what you want to do in the board long term (long term but very vague)

  • @vdodenstein5754
    @vdodenstein5754 4 года назад +1

    09:27
    His name's CARLITO.

  • @bobmakin4991
    @bobmakin4991 5 лет назад

    Why isn't this guy world championship he is smarter than everyone else

  • @BizuteriaMoxie
    @BizuteriaMoxie 4 года назад +1

    I like his videos

  • @BravingTheOutDoors
    @BravingTheOutDoors 11 лет назад +1

    what an incredible game

  • @thetransferaccount4586
    @thetransferaccount4586 11 месяцев назад

    nice lecture

  • @rob__rob_5131
    @rob__rob_5131 4 года назад +2

    Is Finegold really a Vegetarian? If soo... I need his recipes!

  • @thomasrebotier1741
    @thomasrebotier1741 5 лет назад

    At 35:02, what is wrong with ... Q c3. It forces queen trade

  • @MrBardun111
    @MrBardun111 2 года назад

    10:40 since black defended 2 times his pawn, why doesnt he move his other knight rather (d7)? that way he moves other pieces to develop instead same knigth 2 times. Sure ur bishop will be free now but like, ur other move hasnt moved yet and since we played pawn move to protecrt pawn, now we can play it without blockin our queen.

  • @Blaisem
    @Blaisem 5 лет назад

    26:10 could black have just moved his queen to E7 instead of G7? Then repeat between E7 and F8 until white's queen gave up on this pinning tactic or accepted a draw?

  • @JThrashYT
    @JThrashYT 10 лет назад +33

    jonah hill could play this dude in a movie

    • @herzwatithink9289
      @herzwatithink9289 10 лет назад +1

      Nice. But who would play the Michael Cera character?

    • @TheKaeseStulle
      @TheKaeseStulle 7 лет назад +1

      JThrashYT Micheal Cera plays Ken West.

    • @some______guy
      @some______guy 7 лет назад +1

      I would love that. Michael Cera in a fat suit

    • @AssWhole-u6d
      @AssWhole-u6d 5 лет назад

      He doesn't have the comedic skills to play Ben in a movie.

  • @skillywilly187
    @skillywilly187 7 лет назад

    i see old man karpov still playing..whats his fide rating nowadays? also what was his best year rating? was he up in the mid 2800s ?

    • @arsenalfanrichi
      @arsenalfanrichi 7 лет назад

      Late 2700's afaik

    • @palmarius104
      @palmarius104 6 лет назад +1

      If you adjust for rating inflation then actually he was late 2800s

  • @daniellamprecht1566
    @daniellamprecht1566 3 года назад +1

    It's nice to see that Boomhauer has taken an interest in chess.

  • @Inbal_Feuchtwanger
    @Inbal_Feuchtwanger 11 лет назад

    This is just awesome

  • @maelstrom57
    @maelstrom57 11 лет назад

    more from Ben!

  • @stanleygsf
    @stanleygsf 11 лет назад

    Yaay! Fun lecture!

  • @nfltrrrqwsa7512
    @nfltrrrqwsa7512 4 года назад

    To me, Qc4 Rd4 is a much stronger move than bxc5 Rdd3, assuming the Krejcik Gambit holds in parallel with a subdivision 6.5 strategy in the end game scenario.

  • @GymChess
    @GymChess 11 лет назад

    Nice lecture and nice guy.

  • @IamThomassive
    @IamThomassive 11 лет назад +3

    In this kind of classic Karpov strategic grind the mistakes aren't always obvious or big. He steadily nurtured a positional plus until culminated in tangible gain. Examining the inaccuracies of Kamsky is less instructive than the genius of Karpov and a topic for another lecture.

  • @blessedbethelord4835
    @blessedbethelord4835 7 лет назад

    isn't pawn h4-h6 at 33:29 mate? why did karpov check with the bishop? is their something im missing?

    • @DoomRater
      @DoomRater 7 лет назад

      Blessed betheLord h6 is illegal, because that pawn has already moved, notice how it's on h4 not h2. he'd have to play h5 first which is risky because after black takes, his King can run forward.

    • @DoomRater
      @DoomRater 7 лет назад

      Well actually h5 loses the Queen outright because there's no check stopping black from capturing it

  • @postnubilaphoebus96
    @postnubilaphoebus96 10 лет назад

    What is he saying at 39:26 ?
    "He was playing like a (lunatech??) today and was completely lost. Down three pawns for nothing..."
    Sorry, I'm German.

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 11 лет назад

    "back in the day... you don't remember what day that was... it was... THOUSANDS of days ago" Man, he's a pretty funny dude.

  • @copypacer7464
    @copypacer7464 7 лет назад

    16:00 i dont understand why closing up the position when you have the bishop pair

    • @palmarius104
      @palmarius104 6 лет назад

      Well Karpov uses bishops to control counterplay rather than as attacking pieces most of the time.