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Team APS technically I believe it's for everyone, but do to the branding over in other places across the worlds it's aimed towards children. (ALL OF THIS IS IS MY OPINION)
Team APS I started Yugioh when I was 3-4 years old back when it first came out and I loved the cards and the game, even though I didn't know shit about the effects or how to really combo. Today, I'm an adult and I have a far better experience and understanding of the game and I love it. That being said, I think the game/cards and their images are for at least 8+ however the game itself if you want to be a Competitive or even just be able to have fun is to be 16+ I agree with what you said about collecting the cards until you reach 16 years old, than you're allowed to play lol
Teens. YGO! was NEVER designed for kids, especially the manga. For the most part, the characters were about 14+. 4Kids dumbed things down more than the original anime did, so... *drops mic* BTW, I've judged Dragon Duels. They're fun because I get to see them use cards that I used to. Thankfully I have a lot of patience. :3
Team APS the storyline for Yu-Gi-Oh! Especially arc V is way too complicated for a kid and the decks like frightfur and gimmick puppets and dark world would scare kids
In North America at least it's geared towards children. But in reality a child isn't going to know how to read half the stuff in game, they just buy the cards because they're visually appealing.
I agree with this. I actually mentioned toward the end of the video that for children, it's more of a collectible card game than something to play seriously, in my opinion.
I mean i am young i m only 12.but i can play very well and links arent confusing i understand them and people say kids cant read cards but i understand almost every card and i make my own strategies
@@Idkwhattoput-p2s If you're referring to Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens in Japan, then yes, it's recently geared towards kids. Before that, Yu-Gi-Oh was centered around teens, in Japan.
My son is 8 years old and he is awesome at yugioh! He is a fan of the show he wants to play themes he deems fun and I love that! We play test together and have a great time bonding over yugioh! His first qualifier is not week and he will be playing blue eyes! Yes i bought him every card he needs. We will see how that goes lol!
I learned when I was 7 because my brother saw how excited I got when I saw him watch Yu-Gi-Oh.I picked it during the 5ds era, when things weren't so complicated. Here we are today. I'm 15, he's 24, and he can't beat me a single time
1) mtg is targeted towards mature audience 2) ygo is seen as childish because of its anime or cartoon 3) theres an actual mtg lore ON the cards makes the game immersive while YGO story is on the anime and it revolves around the person not the cards you know. All this adds up you know
InnovationYGO they should drop the age restriction to 0 because nowadays the game plays itself with enough money there is no more gambling and thinking you just play out your cards. Whish i wouldve played more when the game was good ive skipped the best days
animes aren't even childilish either so that's no argument though cause Again, MURICA censorship in dubs..... i literally went back to the game after watching the shows in subs in YT or anime pages, such was the butchering of the shows i insta changed from - me, childrenscardgames ammirite - when watching my siblings play, to - wow, YGO is cool and dark and i can relate now, i wanna play a lot from now on ...-
The early cards' aesthetic is one of my favorites ever. Absolutely top tier alongside like Dark Souls & Serial Experiments Lain. Dark ethereal surrealism
what cards can be activated in damage step, negating vs destruction activating in hand or graveyard vs field. activating effect of continuous spell or trap vs activating the spell or trap. few people grasp all these
3 things: One, I notice your persona music. Very nice. Two, Yu-Gi-Oh definitely seems structured for Japanese adult men in every way from creation to modern Yu-Gi-Oh in my opinion. Looking back to basically the beginning of the franchise, it seemed the darker aspects of Yu-Gi-Oh drew in the crowd, and as Moe trash and waifu bait became more popular the game started including more child friendly looking cards to keep up with the cuteness trend. Three, don't even joke about #1 waifu hitotsume giant-chan.
back when there was only normal monsters and the strongest deck was the one that kid had who got exodia some how . don't forget to kill the like button notification squad.
@@noahdoesstuff5673 I have 2 Exodia decks, One focused on an OTW, and the other more focused on my opponent at least having fun, abusing cards like Sangan and Witch.
even yugioh anime was package as child friendly in north america... but here in asia.. were lucky we grew up with the raw violence and dark theme of yugioh
I believe yugioh should always be a game for everyone. I remember playing all the way up thru school slowly getting better and having more fun the older i got
I believe it should be as long as you have basic knowledge on the game. Knowing you can’t play traps from hand unless they specify. You need to tribute summon for high level monsters. I’m all down to teach whoever wants to play how to play, I just think that there are millions of better options than someone who can barely keep up with the format 😂.
its simply marketing... parent walks into shop looking for something for their kids, notice a $10 yugioh deck that says 6+ and they buy it not knowing their child is about to deck search dark magician special summon it and attack for 6k on turn one. its literally just to increase sales through marketing.
Notification Squad! I'm surprised you guys didn't talk about this sooner. And I do think that Yugioh is for everyone, but should be marketed for 10 and up. It would also help if they STOPPED CENSORING CARDS.
When I started playing at 7 the most complicated thing was a fusion summoning. And no one had an idea of what “rare” cards actually were worth anything, besides their print cost. I actually think that this game hooked me because of the (creepy) artwork in general, followed by the lore, game style, the anime, and just the fact that it was this mysterious Asian/Japanese card game fascinated me the most, it was exotic and outlandish - I wish they would bring this darkness back, but now and without Kazuki Takahashi this’ll probably never happen. If Konami creates a new card they kind of make sure it doesn’t has to be censored to begin with. The play style got so developed it needs a more developed mind to comprehend. Being more mature helps a lot here. The older this card game becomes, it sets itself out to be at least for a 18 yo or so, sure if you can actually make it being sold at 6+ why shouldn’t they do it (it creates more sales, advertising and marketing); kind of making a computer game and just adjusting it to make it more accessible to a younger audience makes sense. If you created a product creating more awareness about it brings you more sales. If the anime would be as horrifying that it only could be broadcasted at night, would have never lead them to their global success. Compromising with censoring standards a bit to make it possible to sell it worldwide, otherwise we never even heard of if in the western world. In a way it’s sold as a card game for kids but actually is a game for adults, but maybe that’s the trick to grow up with this game that looks much more exclusive to the outstanding person makes it much more fascinating. Comprehension wise a player should at least 12+ or so (if you are a total newbie to the game); maybe the 6+ is kind of a relict from the game when it started (where the most complicated card was Relinquished, but we’re not talking/playing starter deck Yugi, Joey, or Kaiba anymore.
If it says "ages 6+" then its target audience is for kids and up. If a game says "rated M for mature" then its target audience is for ages 17 and up. The only main difference is the yugioh anime. The dubs are rated TV Y7 while the orignial anime is rated TV 14.
We can very attribute the problem towards western media's impression of card games and anime. They think its FOR KIDS. This makes a disconnect. In Japan Yugioh OCG is actually labeled *age 9+*, while the TCG is labeled *age 6+*. This disconnect is problematic As Japan having their policy of Japan first, will always design thr Yugioh card and effects for the target demographic of 9+(and actually 14+, since the anime is actually geared toward teems), while the west part will try selling it to childrens, with the mind set of "tRaDiNg CaRd GaMeS iS fOr KiDs~".
Also consider the farct that Asian media is pretty hardcore. We will have blood and gore, concept of death, mutilation, DEMONS, Angels, curses and forces of darkness, and its freakin just 13+. Heck, Kamen Rider, for HOW DARK THEY CAN BE, is just considered A CHILDREN SHOW IN JAPAN.
Typically if a game has an anime, the protagonist is usually close to the target audience. For example, one reason Ash Ketchum is still 10 is that children roughly the age of 10 is the target audience in Japan. The youngest YGO protagonist was Yuma at 13, while the oldest was Yusei at 18. "Teenager" seems to be the target audience... In Japan. However outside Japan, I'm pretty sure they're trying to force a child (like, 6-12) demographic.
If I remember correctly, Konami has never really told the age of the characters. Just people assume based on them being in school and such. The show, and game, was designed for kids. For some reason adults fell in love with the game. Thats what did it.
This is two years late to the discussion (I haven't even watched this channel in over a year) but whatever. Most of the YGO characters actually have had their ages confirmed. - Yugi's age is the only one not specified, but based on the age of his friends, he's probably around the age of 15-16 during the events of the main series. (He's 18 during DSoD, but technically, that's a continuation of the manga, not the anime) - Jaden is 15 in the first season of GX, 16 in season 2, and 17 in season 3 & 4. - Yusei is 18 during season 1, 19 by the time they enter the WRGP, and 20 during the end (when they're all deciding their futures; the 'adult' versions afterwards don't have their age specified iirc) - Yuma is 13 throughout the entire series - Yuya is 14 throughout the entire series - Yusaku is 16 throughout the entire series - Yuga is 11 (whether he'll age or not isn't known seeming we're only 8 episodes in) As far as demographics go, I looked into it, and there's no true "age range". The card game is targeted for "6+", basically saying "if you can read, you're the demographic", while the anime has never been clear. The only demographic we can truly discern with the anime is "teenage boys" because it's a shonen anime with usually teenage protagonists. *TL;DR The anime characters ages are anywhere from 11 to 20 depending on the series, and the demographic for the card game is never specified other than "6 and older".*
I think the proper way is to introduce them is to start at "old" Yugioh. Use simple mechanics like back then. Later on if they stay interested, increase the difficulty of deck they use. Something with a little more brain power and help them out through this whole time with cards, maybe certain rulings if they come up, etc. After awhile, you can take them to a shop, but you have to tell them how it is. Not to where they get scared off, but just tell them that it's going to be very different than when you duel them and that people they verse will be very serious about the game. Always try to stay around them as well, Never leave them on their own at a event. Watch their matches when you can and afterwards give them pointers and keep them positive about it cause they will probably be mad, sad, or something when they first start out doing it. If they stay long enough to start understanding the complicated rules and get more serious, test them a bit on it to make sure they're ready and if they really wanna go through with it, let them. Still teach them through it all, but back off here and there whenever they show they've got it down a bit better. Not sure the age range but I'd personally only do it after 10 cause that's around the age that more critical thinking starts to happen.
here some things you can't say about yu gi oh: 1-"there is a cartoon about yu gi oh, and cartoons are for children". Yes, but actually no. There is even a cartoon about football, but this doesn't make football a game for children only. 2-"It's a game, and game are for children". Chess is a game, but it requires a lot of strategy, which doesn't make it a game for children, the same is for yu gi oh, you need a lot of strategy, even before playing, because you must be able to build a good deck. 3-"Children play yu gi oh". Well, I saw children trying to smoke cigarettes, but it doesn't make them a product for children 4-"images of yu gi oh cards are for children". Even "family guy" or "Brickleberry" have a style which reminds us to cartoons, but if you saw them you can say that they aren't for children 5- "on the pack it's written 6+". Clash Royale says "7+", but I saw adults playing it too. Other strange opinions??
Yu-gi-oh is most certainly a children's card game. Konami made the game with children in mind. They had no clue that adults who live with their parents still would start buying out cases and flipping the cards for profit.
These are all terrible arguments. 1. Yes there is a cartoon, the cartoon premieres on specific blocks of television programming targeting the demographic of children at times of the day when they will be home from school and there to watch it. This cartoon's target audience is children. The way that people are exposed to yugioh and football are completely different, and the two should not be used for this comparison because comparing a contact sport, commonly used for the purpose of getting kids to exercise and move around while they're young to instill healthy habits, is incongruent to card games. 2. I won't argue that games are for children. Adults play games. There are games rated M by the ESRB for a reason. There are plenty of table top games adults play. Barely anyone making an argument worth making is actually going to say this. 3. Children play yugioh - again, because it's marketed to children. Cigarettes aren't marketed to children anymore because there are laws that prevent it. This is the most ridiculous of your points. Comparing trading cards to cigarettes. Kids weren't supposed to have cigarettes to begin with. The cards are readily available for them (or their parents) to purchase and play with as they please. I don't understand what your logic is here. It sounds like, "Kids do things they shouldn't do all the time." Yet that argument falls apart when the target demographic for the product is children. 4 and 5 are dumb arguments I'm not even going to continue because it all comes back to the fact that it's a children's trading card game marketed towards children. Manchildren have co-opted this children's trading card game and Konami being the shitty company that is, constantly looking for ways to milk people out of money, have allowed these adult manchildren to turn this children's trading card game into a money sink, and Konami obliged by turning it into the broken mess that it is today. The reason Pokemon has the staying power it does is because it still appeals to kids and kids aren't getting bullied out of Pokemon by sweaty adult men in game shops like they are in the case of Yugioh.
I remember being a yungin having meltdowns in walmart asking my mom or my gramma to buy me packs, and I don't think I would want my kids or my baby brother (Who I definitely plan on teaching yugioh once he can read) to miss out on those experiences, even if that means I gotta whip out the yugi kaiba decks
Back when my locals scene was way smaller than it is now, we had this kid and his dad come in. Kid was playing E-Heroes, Dad was playing just generic Blue-Eyes stuff. This was back when super poly was still around. They came down, got beat by us try-hards for what had to be months. One day he came up to me and said "hey, I want to go to this regional, can you help me rebuild my deck and teach me some stuff." So I did everything. Told him the bad news about some cards not really being good (because everyone needs to hear that at least once when they're starting out,) which he totally went with. We do some practicing, come regionals he doesn't do spectacularly but he did as well as us try-hards. We make him an honorary team member and go get dinner to celebrate. Now he plays ABCs and holds his own with the rest of us pretty consistently. Proud of him.
my locals is like two cities away so i only get to go onve every couple weeks. our locals is a 4 round swiss and after getting a bye round 3 we go to round four and i get paired up with a kid about 7 or 8 years old and he notifies me that he took apart his deck and built a new one mid tournament and as a result he couldnt play anymore.
Great video, got a links question. I know a revived extra deck monster can go in any zone, but can you overlay in that same zone or do they go into the 6th zone? (running a Galaxy deck)
I play the game with my little brother who's seven. He got into the game with the Yugi and Kaiba starter decks reloaded. Those decks were great for teaching the basic rules of the game with decks built around monsters kids would want to use. Now, we tend to use the decks from the Legendary Decks II box. I think a lot of the effects from those decks still go a little over his head. For example, he'll draw Red-eyes fusion turn 1 and hold it for the entire game. A big part of the issue is that he's not quite reading as well as he should be for his age, so he usually has to have the cards' effects explained to him, and I can't exactly do that with the cards in his hand until after the game. Still, he seems to have fun playing the game and is slowly picking up on basic strategies using the cards. On the contrary, we also recently got the Legendary Decks III box and we basically never touch those cards because of how obnoxiously complicated they are for him to understand. Once he starts being able to read more efficiently, I plan to help him start building his own decks instead of relying on pre-built ones.
Yu-Gi-Oh! Up to when synchros got released was simple enough for me to play at like 7/8. But synchros and forward I gotta say 12+ especially with pendulums and links
Recently subscribed, and I gotta say you guys are right it should say for an older age than 6. At a weekly shop tournament I go to there's a 4 year old who plays, and it kinda ticks me off because not only does the store let him, his mom lets him and he's got 5 SDY Dark Magicians but he treats his cards awfully. The one time I went up against him in a match I gave him several do-overs, including pulling a summon from the board. He openly told me that that day he was using a Link Strike starter deck that he'd added 2 cards to. Because he either can't read his cards or doesn't want to (I'm not sure which) he didn't know how cards like Battle Fader, Swift Scarecrow or Photon Thrasher worked in whole. In the end I did beat him (not because I'm cruel or anything) but because time came up in the round.
Me and some of my friends play at our local card shop in Saturdays, we usually use cards like phantom knights, Destiny heroes and speedroids, so everything is usually simpler, so younger kids can understand the easier rulings but it will take a while for them to grasp the more complicated ones
I'm 30 and I'm currently teaching my 6 year old the game. I'm finding the hardest thing to teach is the game mechanics as a whole. I can feel his frustration and confusion when I correct his timing and plays, but it isn't beyond him. 6 years old is a great age to start learning. Competition can maybe wait a couple years. Another thing that maybe should've been touched on, is adults being picked on by their peers for playing a "kids" games. Personally I don't give a shit what people say, I do get annoyed however, when grown adults actually make it a point to give people shit about which hobby have. Your thoughts?
Since you brought up Ritual Beasts in the video, how unplayable is it now that links are here? I dont necessarily play link rules with my friends so i am unsure but the effects of the ulti-beasts must make it almost unplayable since they can defuse when needed.
Yah i guess so, i mean unless you get the greatest boss monster on the field. It would be nice to attack with something else per turn other than him since most of the monsters are at 1500 or less
Hey Team APS! Notification squad here!!! I wanted to say I remember getting the first Yugi and Kiba decks when I was 5. My step dad took the Kiba deck and I used the Yugi deck. He learned the rules and then taught me the rules. I didn't know how to read at the time so every time I didn't know what a card does I would ask him to read it to me. I then starting to memorize all the pictures of the cards. Until I was around 7 and was able to read the cards for myself I started to make decks out of our vast collection of Yu-Gi-Oh! ( Deck Formula at the time was 20 monsters 10 Spells 10 Traps) I built my triple Summon Skull and Soul Exchange deck against my step dads Fiend deck. I have been playing Yu-Gi-Oh! To this day with my step dad! As I'm turning 20 this year and my little brother is turning 6 I am buying him the new Link Starter Deck with Lime Green Sleeves (his favorite color) and his very own playmat. I feel like this game could be played by everyone who wants to play. But I do feel like younger kids need someone older to play with to understand the game better. And financially budget is something that kids can save thier allowance and get a amazon gift card. Thank you so much for your Content and I hope you enjoy this essay! :P
Ps, My step dad was ruthless, he never let me win. He always tried his hardest to beat me. I'm just lucky I always wanted to play again! Honestly him never letting me win made me a better sport but also a better player / person.
Love you guys! So much diversity in personality's and you guys really know your shit. You guys make me pumped to get back into Yugioh. Keep up the good work!
I got my sister into it when she was 6. She's 9 now and only just got her head around fusions and XYZ. she's always struggled with synchro and she just full stop does not understand link or pendulum. I started when I was about 13 and understood every summoning mechanic almost immediately. I'd say to start them off learning the game, get a kid about 10. Older kids are more likely to understand and 10 seams safe.
I used to play pokemon tcg all the time. When I got bored one day, I decided to try out another card game. I heard about magic all the time, but wait, what's this one? "You gee ow? Nobody ever seems to talk about this one. I wonder what's it like?" I got duel links on my phone and played it. I chose Kaiba because I thought his name was cool, and because he looked kind of like me, and It was fascinating looking at all the cards. "Mahjong munia maidens" was one of my favorite cards. I liked the design of their silk dresses, and I thought its effect was really good lmao. After about 2 days of playing, I decided to try the actual game. Went to Walmart, found a link strike starter deck, and what's this? A Seto Kaiba starter deck reloaded?! Cool! Got home and I've been playing it ever since. I even found some other kids to play it with me at school. I love just about everything about this game. The designs of the cards, the amount of strategy and decision making needed to win, and the tv show and its characters.
When yugioh first came out I was 12 yrs old, and I was not scared the pictures was the thing that attracted me to it. I was quitting Pokemon to play yugioh
The day I started playing yugioh was when I was in elementary school (so yeah, I fit into that 6+ range) my dad got me a starter deck yugi, kaiba, and Joey (not at the same time... I think) but it was really more for educational purposes. (Too increase my skill in reading and math, and it did!). My opinion is, I think the age category is fine, and it can be used as an educational tool while creating these images from flavor texts and just the cards overall appearance. Truly tho, it just matters on the interest and maturity of whoever plays this card game.
I only had a hard time learning Link Summoning because it was mostly just talked about. I learn things better when I have visual demos to look at. After I tried Link Summoning out myself, I understood it better, just like when I first tried out Pendulums. Still playing Pendulum Magicians in the Link format😁
I'm 12 and I consider myself a pretty decent player.I'm ok at the game, and know all the rules. I run anything from raw power decks to pendulum to cyber dragons. I really enjoy the game and hope to go locals sometime late 2018 early to mid 2019. WISH ME LUCK !!!
Hey team aps I just started playing Yu-Gi-Oh about 3 days ago and your pretty much the only RUclipsr I'm watching these days 😂 got any tips for my early game like mistakes I don't want to make
I played the game when it first came out because of the show like everybody else did. My son is 10 now and he watched the original show on Netflix and wa ted to play. I was always more of a "character deck" builder so he was able to take my old decks and learn. And we've since added a few older characters and play on weekends at the house. Everybody from the original series from yugi to espa roba and all. It's fun that way. I'm glad he has no desire to play competitively
I think it should be taken case by case because in our locals, we have 4 kids and their skill level ranges from a 12 year old playing fluffal OTK and coming around 4th every weekend to a 10 year old playing the Master Pendulum structure deck. *Note*: Yes, our locals does use the link format.
I’d say the game is ages 10+. I started playing back in 03 and I was 9 years old. Maybe didn’t follow tournament rules, but still had a blast playing with friends. Only a couple years later I was going to locals for the first time
Yu-Gi-Oh came out for me when I was 13. I told my kids and wife I wouldn't mind if they played when they turn 13 that way they'll know to keep their cards safe and they can choose what they want to put in their decks after I give it to them. I made all my kids their decks already and my oldest kid is only nine so there's still some time left. my door is always open for teaching people Yu-Gi-Oh, I have binders people can go through and just take whatever they want to make their deck stronger. when I see kids at the tournament I try to make it fun for them and help them like I do anyone else, yeah I'll go a little easier on him so they can understand the game better and have a great time and when I have to make finishing blows I'll make it kind of like the anime so they have a great time even if they lose, but most of the time I let them win the only reason why they lose sometimes is because sometimes it's hard to lose on purpose. but I do agree I do believe they should be for 13 and up that way people can understand the value of their cards cards can be less damage because the people are older and they can respect their cards more
I'm not a huge fan of Yugioh in general, I've mostly been watching this channel because I really like the passion and personality of the team. My take on the TCG world has been shaped by playing a handful of tcgs over the years. Pokemon, Digimon, Yugioh, MtG, Redakai...etc Personally, in terms of community and game balance, I think Pokemon has done a much better job in building a community that can host kids. But as a direct result, my local Pokemon TCG community seems to ONLY have kids and a few older oddballs like myself. (which is why I've stepped away.) It's disappointing that so many card shops either don't host events for Pokemon or seem to only have children in the local Pokemon community. Maybe Pokemon isn't bringing in business? its hard to say. Pokemon is streamlined, but still fairly strategic. The meta is smaller with the use of a rotation rather than a ban list, which means it is actually fairly easy to learn the meta and understand the majority of the cards you'll come up against in competitive. While singles can be pricey, I've never seen anything like in ygo/mtg and there are almost always viable budget options, with few exceptions, there are never cards that are required to play a competitive deck. The mechanics themselves are simple and you won't end up in the sea of errata, chains and obscure rulings. It just works.
Do we have any sort of analytics pertaining to who's making yugioh profitable for konami? I feel like there's a chance that children and parents could definitely be a larger paying group than casual/ competitive players, and to be honest the art gets dark but cards are honestly small. Kids probably dont read too much into it
I'm 31 and I still play. I'm going to teach my kid to play as well. I think its great for all ages 6+, however I think tournaments and more serious play should be reserved for older teens and adults. I'll probably be playing this game until I die. Used to do tournies, but now family and work get in the way. Though I still enjoy casual duels whenever I can have them.
Honestly I think kids under 10 should start with YGO video games. It saves money and enforces the rules. I've had both cards and video games, but from a personal perspective I didn't know a lot of people who played in real life to justify the means of buying cards all the time. That was my case till I was teenager in the 5D's era where I found local TCG communities.
i love watching your videos although im not even that good at yugioh and i dont understand the "dueling slang" you guys have when you talk about specific decks lol
You don't have to go out of your way if you're already busy with things. Your videos are like my only source of learning new things out of the game lol. I partially blame myself for not putting enough effort for research. Keep up the good work, you keep my attention and actually got me somewhat into the game again haha
Me and my friends easily played yu-gi-oh as younger (6-8) kids sure at the time 5ds was the popping show and it was an easier game to understand and play but even now as a player getting back into it the new rules just grow on you and they are easy to understand after playing a couple games
I used to think that yugioh should be 12+ but my cousin is 10yrs old and follows all rules completely fine, so I’d say it just depends on how mature you are
I think it's targeted for children, but more adults play it then kids. Some of the kids don't like to play because most of the adult players in the community ruin it for them.
For the most part, the elitism of Yugioh is what drive some people away. Some people just like to play for fun, but there are those people who take it to the extreme.
Id say collecting cards is for kids, but the rules are set up for competitive adults. Otherwise card text wouldnt be 10 intricate sentences where a semi colon completely.changes the way a card can be played.
Adults don't ruin Yu-Gi-Oh for me, its just the competitive players always criticizing the fact I use Crystal Beasts, but then again, lets be real here. Crystal Beast = Not Meta
Hi Team APS im a new sub, but i really love you guys. I dont care if yoy see this comment or not. And as i said before really love you guys. (Im not homo)
+Team APS I'm 13 and I totally agree with you guys. I am the best at my locals, not because I have parents who buy me everything, but I earn money buy buying and reselling online, I am getting around $200 aud a week (I live in australia) and I try at school, do homework study etc so I can understand more things,soYu-Gi-Oh came quite easily to me. BTW I love u guys (NO HOMO)
My 8 year old brother plays Yu-Gi-Oh! He only knows the basics (and doesn't use xyz, synchros etc. yet. Just fusions). I don't take him to the card shop or anything, but I bought him a £25 cyber dragon deck of Ebay and upgraded it. He's currently learning it (I gave it to him yesterday) and I helped him do a duel with my sister. He loves it, but for now does still need help. I think Yugioh is fine for children. Just don't take them to a card shop. I duel my brother with a dark magician deck thats pretty much three yugi decks (from legendary decks II) combined. Its a good fit. Not too complex and the duels never finish in one/two turns.
I always wanted to play at locals as a kid in middle school but never made it further than beating the usual anime main character wannabe because I just didn't have money for a decent deck, even in highschool. Nowadays, I'd say without a couple hundred dollars it's pretty hard to compete against anything meta and that's facts. You can build a budget deck that will still need support from expensive cards to really be consistent and effective. That, and having experience using multiple different decks gives you knowledge of tech cards from seeing how card interactions work for yourself. I'd definitely say it's not for kids in the competitive scene unless they're being sponsored by their parents. There's just too many additional cards that people throw in nowadays that spice up their decks just to get an edge that it's really just inefficient to have a super budget deck in a competition (unless you're a pro whose main goal in a tournament is to mess with people and kill the meta). To really keep your deck relavent you actually have to acquire all the new cards as they come out, if they will help your deck. Otherwise you're automatically not playing meta and you'll probably be stomped.
The original creator has said multiple times that he made Yu-gi-oh for children. The community changed it into what it is today. But Yu-gi-oh, at its base, is totally for children.
I think the video games allow many younger people to join in the game, but going from that to the real game really needs some dedication. when I was like 11 I played with my ultimate insect deck and roid deck (for which I had to trade a bunch at school) against my friend who had an armed dragon deck and cyber dragon deck. We actually understood the rules and played decently with the cards we had. Maybe him having an older brother ordering some cards for us mightve helpen :')
I'm a 23 year old female who still plays yugioh lol I love it because I bond with my friends and I have a way to relax and feel competitive at the same time. I think EVERYONE should play based on their understanding of wording and strategy. I'm planning on playing for a while until I own my own business.
It certainly has shifted out of the 10 and under bracket. This is due to money, as all reasoning for Konami is, and it makes sense in this respect. It started taking more popularity around 2005-2006, and continued to do well. Then the lawsuit stuff pulled away attention, but Konami got full rights back and full control. From 2009 and on, they have been trying to follow the age group base up. They start making it more advanced to keep attention of players who tend to grow out of Yu-Gi-Oh and go to things like mtg. It's actually a smart strategy, you raise difficulty, tech, and speed to keep up with your current fan base. Alot of companies do this in alot of areas, some more subtle than others, and it works for the most part. This almost ensures that you will have a fairly stable number of people hooked for longer RATHER than try to get more and more new fan base by keeping up with ever-changing shows and media with the same Target: kids. The fact that they have a banlist over some rotating block format is also a good strategy, as kids can STILL be roped in and new fan base can be established. Sure it will be fewer and fewer due to said changing media and interest focuses over the years, but you've already got a pretty stable fan-base that you focus on. I'm saying all this more in response to people saying that Konami doesn't "care" about the fan-base. They certainly care about the fans who have grown up now. They are trying desperately to keep their attention. They care more than your parents. They care more than school counselor paid to care about you. They do the things they do BECAUSE they care, just not in the way you want them to. They care about you being interested and even more about their cash-cow players because of money. Heck, I'd even say they care most about your well-being; a sick/dead player is of zero value. If this doesn't convince you they care then you should look at the banlist. Sure, there are some cards that can be absolutely broken (even I will admit that), but let's be honest with ourselves; this banlist only gets utilized now to stabilize the meta. A stable, linear meta keeps the long-standing fans buying. If a card, archetype, or strategy would shake the meta in any way they immediately bring the ban-hammer down to either restrict it or kill it completely. In either case, they pull whatever concept that would have shook/changed the meta out of the picture completely. The only changes they want to the meta are things that they, themselves, put there that their main money spenders are interested in. Changes to the meta keeps the same core that these long-standing fans are accustom to. If something were to disrupt their play too much, or god-forbid OTK/FTK just a hard or harder than these meta players, their feelings get hurt and they may lose interest. Ban-Hammer Powers, Activate...all to keep everyone they care about hooked and indulgent.
You guys missed something very obvious the whole entire time. You don't have to play competitively to have fun. I bet almost every player that has ever played has started with their friends, at a young age not following the rules at all.
Omega Phase we played according to the anime's rules. And i started at the age of 5 and now i am 20 years old. This game is for all ages, have fun guys!
I actually started when I was 15 going into 16, XYZ’s were the fairly common thing at the time and I had a group of friends who all grew up playing teaching me the basic rules. Stuff like MST and Dust Tornado negate, that whole shebang.
I think that when yugioh first made it's debut back in 2003, 6+ was appropriate. but the game grew up with that first batch of players.and its become especially hard for the original 6+ demographic to get into the current form of the game. especially after Pendulum and link monsters happened.
When I have a kid, I'm totally going to teach them how to play and play YuGiOh with them if they enjoy it. I would also fully let them play in Dragon Duels. And to start I'll get them some stuff, but if they want to play competitive with an expensive deck, they'll have to work for it somehow. That's my opinion.
I bought my son who is 8 a couple of starter decks for Christmas and i am teaching how to play. OOOO boi it is a struggle and half to teach the rule an regs of the game. He wants to play the way i played when the game first came out. It takes a lot of patience to teach younger players the game.
Back in 2004 I was playing at Valhallas game shop in Denver; and had my ass handed to me by a 8 or less year old kid. He was an example of well funded. He had the best tech and most annoying monsters at the time; I on the other hand had no meta for the most part and never even considered that buying online was a thing. Losing to Jinzo and random other cards all rare or rarer as the theme seemed to be is stupid and frustrating.At that time I was 19+ years old.
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Team APS technically I believe it's for everyone, but do to the branding over in other places across the worlds it's aimed towards children. (ALL OF THIS IS IS MY OPINION)
Team APS I started Yugioh when I was 3-4 years old back when it first came out and I loved the cards and the game, even though I didn't know shit about the effects or how to really combo. Today, I'm an adult and I have a far better experience and understanding of the game and I love it. That being said, I think the game/cards and their images are for at least 8+ however the game itself if you want to be a Competitive or even just be able to have fun is to be 16+
I agree with what you said about collecting the cards until you reach 16 years old, than you're allowed to play lol
Teens. YGO! was NEVER designed for kids, especially the manga. For the most part, the characters were about 14+. 4Kids dumbed things down more than the original anime did, so... *drops mic*
BTW, I've judged Dragon Duels. They're fun because I get to see them use cards that I used to. Thankfully I have a lot of patience. :3
Team APS Hey guys. You should cover what each D/D and D/D/D is in real life. They are based around real people I think, but I am not for sure.
Team APS the storyline for Yu-Gi-Oh! Especially arc V is way too complicated for a kid and the decks like frightfur and gimmick puppets and dark world would scare kids
Next video, Why yugioh should be played on motorcycles
RaydrawN yuguioh should always be played on motorcycles
WAIT IT ISN'T ALREADY?!
Motorcycles are outdated. Rollerblades were a fad. Now we're on SURFBOARDS IN VIRTUAL REALITY.
Damn it tristan
NaiyaR shouldn't*
In North America at least it's geared towards children. But in reality a child isn't going to know how to read half the stuff in game, they just buy the cards because they're visually appealing.
I agree with this. I actually mentioned toward the end of the video that for children, it's more of a collectible card game than something to play seriously, in my opinion.
@@TeamAPS they need someone to teach them. Like I taught my brother. But when I was little I didn't know how to play. No one taught me lol
It's also geared towards children in Japan.
I mean i am young i m only 12.but i can play very well and links arent confusing i understand them and people say kids cant read cards but i understand almost every card and i make my own strategies
@@Idkwhattoput-p2s If you're referring to Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens in Japan, then yes, it's recently geared towards kids. Before that, Yu-Gi-Oh was centered around teens, in Japan.
My son is 8 years old and he is awesome at yugioh! He is a fan of the show he wants to play themes he deems fun and I love that! We play test together and have a great time bonding over yugioh! His first qualifier is not week and he will be playing blue eyes! Yes i bought him every card he needs. We will see how that goes lol!
You, sir, are father of the year!
lol my son makes it easy! the only problem is i cant beat him with my harpies! can you do a link format harpie deck profile?
Delbert Hewitt, Jr.
Tell your son I believe in him, Blue-Eyes is GOAT.
yugioh qualifer september 10 Omni Atlanta Hotel at CNN Center 100 CNN Center N.W. Atlanta GA 30303
i hope i see you there! what are you playing?
Way awesome, man. That's goals. My kids are still a little young, but I hope they hold the interest. My son would make a great dueltainer.
I learned when I was 7 because my brother saw how excited I got when I saw him watch Yu-Gi-Oh.I picked it during the 5ds era, when things weren't so complicated. Here we are today. I'm 15, he's 24, and he can't beat me a single time
Supreme King what deck do you play
That's fair. I was never able to beat my younger brothers, and I'm the only one threat still plays.
Im sorry but Konami doesn't make the card game for children. I don't think a kid can afford a damn $60 ash blossom off allowance.
That's were parents take place in the community, lol, so yeah still a children's card game
To be fair konami does not set card prices the players do
Neptabeezy Then again, kids can't afford toys snd video games. Are toys not for kids either?
Well, prices are set in response to card design and availability, which are controlled by Konami.
Video games have progressively over the years become more of an adult thing (my opinion) not saying kids can't play god of war or COD
Yugioh should definitely be a game for 12+ similar to MTG
It should be more of a suggestion rather than a rule
1) mtg is targeted towards mature audience
2) ygo is seen as childish because of its anime or cartoon
3) theres an actual mtg lore ON the cards makes the game immersive while YGO story is on the anime and it revolves around the person not the cards you know.
All this adds up you know
InnovationYGO they should drop the age restriction to 0 because nowadays the game plays itself with enough money there is no more gambling and thinking you just play out your cards.
Whish i wouldve played more when the game was good ive skipped the best days
It is in itself though, 10 year olds and below kinda suck playing this...
animes aren't even childilish either so that's no argument though cause Again, MURICA censorship in dubs..... i literally went back to the game after watching the shows in subs in YT or anime pages, such was the butchering of the shows i insta changed from - me, childrenscardgames ammirite - when watching my siblings play, to - wow, YGO is cool and dark and i can relate now, i wanna play a lot from now on ...-
The early cards' aesthetic is one of my favorites ever. Absolutely top tier alongside like Dark Souls & Serial Experiments Lain. Dark ethereal surrealism
The Ruleset can only be grasped by Teenagers and Older, thats all that needs to be said.
Regarding to the new Master Rules, namely Link Summoning
what cards can be activated in damage step, negating vs destruction activating in hand or graveyard vs field. activating effect of continuous spell or trap vs activating the spell or trap. few people grasp all these
I was ten when I figured it out.
Its manchild cardgame
@@therattataking7062 when you figured it out the game was much more simple
Original Yugioh: Scary monster with dark themes.
Now Yugioh: Waifus and lolies.
3 things:
One, I notice your persona music. Very nice.
Two, Yu-Gi-Oh definitely seems structured for Japanese adult men in every way from creation to modern Yu-Gi-Oh in my opinion. Looking back to basically the beginning of the franchise, it seemed the darker aspects of Yu-Gi-Oh drew in the crowd, and as Moe trash and waifu bait became more popular the game started including more child friendly looking cards to keep up with the cuteness trend.
Three, don't even joke about #1 waifu hitotsume giant-chan.
Naw best waifu potential is the dragonmaids
Simorgh of darkness is my waifu
Teardrop, the Rikka Queen. She's lovely.
@@daenor7807 isn't it the archetype gimmick? lol
back when there was only normal monsters and the strongest deck was the one that kid had who got exodia some how .
don't forget to kill the like button notification squad.
t wilson That's how you support the #APSQUAD!
nah, not even then.... things like PENGUIN SOLDIER and MAN EATER BUG were kind of thing back then lol
t wilson I have exodia lol
@@noahdoesstuff5673 I have 2 Exodia decks, One focused on an OTW, and the other more focused on my opponent at least having fun, abusing cards like Sangan and Witch.
Yugioh anime is 13+. I never through its children's card game. I'm 25, still playing it casually with my friends.
Lmaooooo the Yugioh anime is NOT 13 and up... Its literally for children. The rating is TVY7
@@tyrous1743 in japan
even yugioh anime was package as child friendly in north america... but here in asia.. were lucky we grew up with the raw violence and dark theme of yugioh
Lucky
Your attending your first locals video helped me overcome my anxiety and play my first tournament, Thx guys :D
You're very welcome! Hope it's been smooth sailing since then! :)
I believe yugioh should always be a game for everyone. I remember playing all the way up thru school slowly getting better and having more fun the older i got
I believe it should be as long as you have basic knowledge on the game.
Knowing you can’t play traps from hand unless they specify.
You need to tribute summon for high level monsters.
I’m all down to teach whoever wants to play how to play, I just think that there are millions of better options than someone who can barely keep up with the format 😂.
its simply marketing... parent walks into shop looking for something for their kids, notice a $10 yugioh deck that says 6+ and they buy it not knowing their child is about to deck search dark magician special summon it and attack for 6k on turn one. its literally just to increase sales through marketing.
Vincent Dixon are you high? 6k dark magician what is this synchro era nah 1card xyz that can flood the field
@@toastyheretic3941 Since when do synchros have attack that high lol, they more of are the type to have powerful effects like nuking whole field.
@@garretrodriguez a heavy archetype of an synchro era will of course come with a bunch of attack boosting cards for their archetype. IE honest types.
Notification Squad! I'm surprised you guys didn't talk about this sooner. And I do think that Yugioh is for everyone, but should be marketed for 10 and up. It would also help if they STOPPED CENSORING CARDS.
Nice profile pic 👍👌
Dragon's Beard Gamer They talked about it awhile ago. But I enjoy seeing the topic come up again later on. (It's been awhile so it's okay.)
Dragon's Beard Gamer that profile pic is why they censord cards
They've discussed the topic in other capacities. They're definitely worth looking up.
It's still bs. MTG doesn't censor anything, so why should yugioh
When I started playing at 7 the most complicated thing was a fusion summoning. And no one had an idea of what “rare” cards actually were worth anything, besides their print cost. I actually think that this game hooked me because of the (creepy) artwork in general, followed by the lore, game style, the anime, and just the fact that it was this mysterious Asian/Japanese card game fascinated me the most, it was exotic and outlandish - I wish they would bring this darkness back, but now and without Kazuki Takahashi this’ll probably never happen. If Konami creates a new card they kind of make sure it doesn’t has to be censored to begin with.
The play style got so developed it needs a more developed mind to comprehend. Being more mature helps a lot here.
The older this card game becomes, it sets itself out to be at least for a 18 yo or so, sure if you can actually make it being sold at 6+ why shouldn’t they do it (it creates more sales, advertising and marketing); kind of making a computer game and just adjusting it to make it more accessible to a younger audience makes sense. If you created a product creating more awareness about it brings you more sales. If the anime would be as horrifying that it only could be broadcasted at night, would have never lead them to their global success. Compromising with censoring standards a bit to make it possible to sell it worldwide, otherwise we never even heard of if in the western world.
In a way it’s sold as a card game for kids but actually is a game for adults, but maybe that’s the trick to grow up with this game that looks much more exclusive to the outstanding person makes it much more fascinating.
Comprehension wise a player should at least 12+ or so (if you are a total newbie to the game); maybe the 6+ is kind of a relict from the game when it started (where the most complicated card was Relinquished, but we’re not talking/playing starter deck Yugi, Joey, or Kaiba anymore.
What's wrong with just starting with a starter deck or structure deck and going from there?
If it says "ages 6+" then its target audience is for kids and up.
If a game says "rated M for mature" then its target audience is for ages 17 and up.
The only main difference is the yugioh anime. The dubs are rated TV Y7 while the orignial anime is rated TV 14.
We can very attribute the problem towards western media's impression of card games and anime. They think its FOR KIDS. This makes a disconnect. In Japan Yugioh OCG is actually labeled *age 9+*, while the TCG is labeled *age 6+*. This disconnect is problematic As Japan having their policy of Japan first, will always design thr Yugioh card and effects for the target demographic of 9+(and actually 14+, since the anime is actually geared toward teems), while the west part will try selling it to childrens, with the mind set of "tRaDiNg CaRd GaMeS iS fOr KiDs~".
Also consider the farct that Asian media is pretty hardcore. We will have blood and gore, concept of death, mutilation, DEMONS, Angels, curses and forces of darkness, and its freakin just 13+. Heck, Kamen Rider, for HOW DARK THEY CAN BE, is just considered A CHILDREN SHOW IN JAPAN.
Typically if a game has an anime, the protagonist is usually close to the target audience. For example, one reason Ash Ketchum is still 10 is that children roughly the age of 10 is the target audience in Japan.
The youngest YGO protagonist was Yuma at 13, while the oldest was Yusei at 18. "Teenager" seems to be the target audience... In Japan.
However outside Japan, I'm pretty sure they're trying to force a child (like, 6-12) demographic.
Sounds legit
If I remember correctly, Konami has never really told the age of the characters. Just people assume based on them being in school and such. The show, and game, was designed for kids. For some reason adults fell in love with the game. Thats what did it.
This is two years late to the discussion (I haven't even watched this channel in over a year) but whatever.
Most of the YGO characters actually have had their ages confirmed.
- Yugi's age is the only one not specified, but based on the age of his friends, he's probably around the age of 15-16 during the events of the main series. (He's 18 during DSoD, but technically, that's a continuation of the manga, not the anime)
- Jaden is 15 in the first season of GX, 16 in season 2, and 17 in season 3 & 4.
- Yusei is 18 during season 1, 19 by the time they enter the WRGP, and 20 during the end (when they're all deciding their futures; the 'adult' versions afterwards don't have their age specified iirc)
- Yuma is 13 throughout the entire series
- Yuya is 14 throughout the entire series
- Yusaku is 16 throughout the entire series
- Yuga is 11 (whether he'll age or not isn't known seeming we're only 8 episodes in)
As far as demographics go, I looked into it, and there's no true "age range". The card game is targeted for "6+", basically saying "if you can read, you're the demographic", while the anime has never been clear. The only demographic we can truly discern with the anime is "teenage boys" because it's a shonen anime with usually teenage protagonists.
*TL;DR The anime characters ages are anywhere from 11 to 20 depending on the series, and the demographic for the card game is never specified other than "6 and older".*
Love the persona music in the background :D! Great discussion!
I think the proper way is to introduce them is to start at "old" Yugioh. Use simple mechanics like back then. Later on if they stay interested, increase the difficulty of deck they use. Something with a little more brain power and help them out through this whole time with cards, maybe certain rulings if they come up, etc. After awhile, you can take them to a shop, but you have to tell them how it is. Not to where they get scared off, but just tell them that it's going to be very different than when you duel them and that people they verse will be very serious about the game. Always try to stay around them as well, Never leave them on their own at a event. Watch their matches when you can and afterwards give them pointers and keep them positive about it cause they will probably be mad, sad, or something when they first start out doing it. If they stay long enough to start understanding the complicated rules and get more serious, test them a bit on it to make sure they're ready and if they really wanna go through with it, let them. Still teach them through it all, but back off here and there whenever they show they've got it down a bit better. Not sure the age range but I'd personally only do it after 10 cause that's around the age that more critical thinking starts to happen.
here some things you can't say about yu gi oh:
1-"there is a cartoon about yu gi oh, and cartoons are for children". Yes, but actually no. There is even a cartoon about football, but this doesn't make football a game for children only.
2-"It's a game, and game are for children". Chess is a game, but it requires a lot of strategy, which doesn't make it a game for children, the same is for yu gi oh, you need a lot of strategy, even before playing, because you must be able to build a good deck.
3-"Children play yu gi oh". Well, I saw children trying to smoke cigarettes, but it doesn't make them a product for children
4-"images of yu gi oh cards are for children". Even "family guy" or "Brickleberry" have a style which reminds us to cartoons, but if you saw them you can say that they aren't for children
5- "on the pack it's written 6+". Clash Royale says "7+", but I saw adults playing it too. Other strange opinions??
Yu-gi-oh is most certainly a children's card game. Konami made the game with children in mind. They had no clue that adults who live with their parents still would start buying out cases and flipping the cards for profit.
These are all terrible arguments.
1. Yes there is a cartoon, the cartoon premieres on specific blocks of television programming targeting the demographic of children at times of the day when they will be home from school and there to watch it. This cartoon's target audience is children. The way that people are exposed to yugioh and football are completely different, and the two should not be used for this comparison because comparing a contact sport, commonly used for the purpose of getting kids to exercise and move around while they're young to instill healthy habits, is incongruent to card games.
2. I won't argue that games are for children. Adults play games. There are games rated M by the ESRB for a reason. There are plenty of table top games adults play. Barely anyone making an argument worth making is actually going to say this.
3. Children play yugioh - again, because it's marketed to children. Cigarettes aren't marketed to children anymore because there are laws that prevent it. This is the most ridiculous of your points. Comparing trading cards to cigarettes. Kids weren't supposed to have cigarettes to begin with. The cards are readily available for them (or their parents) to purchase and play with as they please. I don't understand what your logic is here. It sounds like, "Kids do things they shouldn't do all the time." Yet that argument falls apart when the target demographic for the product is children.
4 and 5 are dumb arguments I'm not even going to continue because it all comes back to the fact that it's a children's trading card game marketed towards children.
Manchildren have co-opted this children's trading card game and Konami being the shitty company that is, constantly looking for ways to milk people out of money, have allowed these adult manchildren to turn this children's trading card game into a money sink, and Konami obliged by turning it into the broken mess that it is today. The reason Pokemon has the staying power it does is because it still appeals to kids and kids aren't getting bullied out of Pokemon by sweaty adult men in game shops like they are in the case of Yugioh.
@@tyrous1743 No the manga was made for teens and young adults
I remember being a yungin having meltdowns in walmart asking my mom or my gramma to buy me packs, and I don't think I would want my kids or my baby brother (Who I definitely plan on teaching yugioh once he can read) to miss out on those experiences, even if that means I gotta whip out the yugi kaiba decks
Back when my locals scene was way smaller than it is now, we had this kid and his dad come in. Kid was playing E-Heroes, Dad was playing just generic Blue-Eyes stuff. This was back when super poly was still around. They came down, got beat by us try-hards for what had to be months. One day he came up to me and said "hey, I want to go to this regional, can you help me rebuild my deck and teach me some stuff." So I did everything. Told him the bad news about some cards not really being good (because everyone needs to hear that at least once when they're starting out,) which he totally went with. We do some practicing, come regionals he doesn't do spectacularly but he did as well as us try-hards. We make him an honorary team member and go get dinner to celebrate. Now he plays ABCs and holds his own with the rest of us pretty consistently. Proud of him.
my locals is like two cities away so i only get to go onve every couple weeks. our locals is a 4 round swiss and after getting a bye round 3 we go to round four and i get paired up with a kid about 7 or 8 years old and he notifies me that he took apart his deck and built a new one mid tournament and as a result he couldnt play anymore.
Where can I get the sleeves you use for your cards? My sleeves are appropriate, but not what I want or am interested in using.
Great video, got a links question. I know a revived extra deck monster can go in any zone, but can you overlay in that same zone or do they go into the 6th zone? (running a Galaxy deck)
I play the game with my little brother who's seven. He got into the game with the Yugi and Kaiba starter decks reloaded. Those decks were great for teaching the basic rules of the game with decks built around monsters kids would want to use. Now, we tend to use the decks from the Legendary Decks II box. I think a lot of the effects from those decks still go a little over his head. For example, he'll draw Red-eyes fusion turn 1 and hold it for the entire game. A big part of the issue is that he's not quite reading as well as he should be for his age, so he usually has to have the cards' effects explained to him, and I can't exactly do that with the cards in his hand until after the game. Still, he seems to have fun playing the game and is slowly picking up on basic strategies using the cards.
On the contrary, we also recently got the Legendary Decks III box and we basically never touch those cards because of how obnoxiously complicated they are for him to understand. Once he starts being able to read more efficiently, I plan to help him start building his own decks instead of relying on pre-built ones.
Yu-Gi-Oh! Up to when synchros got released was simple enough for me to play at like 7/8. But synchros and forward I gotta say 12+ especially with pendulums and links
xyz are still easy enough
Recently subscribed, and I gotta say you guys are right it should say for an older age than 6. At a weekly shop tournament I go to there's a 4 year old who plays, and it kinda ticks me off because not only does the store let him, his mom lets him and he's got 5 SDY Dark Magicians but he treats his cards awfully. The one time I went up against him in a match I gave him several do-overs, including pulling a summon from the board. He openly told me that that day he was using a Link Strike starter deck that he'd added 2 cards to. Because he either can't read his cards or doesn't want to (I'm not sure which) he didn't know how cards like Battle Fader, Swift Scarecrow or Photon Thrasher worked in whole. In the end I did beat him (not because I'm cruel or anything) but because time came up in the round.
Me and some of my friends play at our local card shop in Saturdays, we usually use cards like phantom knights, Destiny heroes and speedroids, so everything is usually simpler, so younger kids can understand the easier rulings but it will take a while for them to grasp the more complicated ones
Am a 11 years old kid am building a comparative rocket deck.
My mom credit card :SAVE ME!!
I'm 30 and I'm currently teaching my 6 year old the game. I'm finding the hardest thing to teach is the game mechanics as a whole. I can feel his frustration and confusion when I correct his timing and plays, but it isn't beyond him. 6 years old is a great age to start learning. Competition can maybe wait a couple years. Another thing that maybe should've been touched on, is adults being picked on by their peers for playing a "kids" games. Personally I don't give a shit what people say, I do get annoyed however, when grown adults actually make it a point to give people shit about which hobby have. Your thoughts?
Since you brought up Ritual Beasts in the video, how unplayable is it now that links are here? I dont necessarily play link rules with my friends so i am unsure but the effects of the ulti-beasts must make it almost unplayable since they can defuse when needed.
shadowkreep there's a chance it can be playable cause doesn't it normally drop one extra deck monster at a time anyways?
Yah i guess so, i mean unless you get the greatest boss monster on the field. It would be nice to attack with something else per turn other than him since most of the monsters are at 1500 or less
Hey Team APS! Notification squad here!!! I wanted to say I remember getting the first Yugi and Kiba decks when I was 5. My step dad took the Kiba deck and I used the Yugi deck. He learned the rules and then taught me the rules. I didn't know how to read at the time so every time I didn't know what a card does I would ask him to read it to me. I then starting to memorize all the pictures of the cards. Until I was around 7 and was able to read the cards for myself I started to make decks out of our vast collection of Yu-Gi-Oh! ( Deck Formula at the time was 20 monsters 10 Spells 10 Traps) I built my triple Summon Skull and Soul Exchange deck against my step dads Fiend deck. I have been playing Yu-Gi-Oh! To this day with my step dad! As I'm turning 20 this year and my little brother is turning 6 I am buying him the new Link Starter Deck with Lime Green Sleeves (his favorite color) and his very own playmat. I feel like this game could be played by everyone who wants to play. But I do feel like younger kids need someone older to play with to understand the game better. And financially budget is something that kids can save thier allowance and get a amazon gift card. Thank you so much for your Content and I hope you enjoy this essay! :P
Ps, My step dad was ruthless, he never let me win. He always tried his hardest to beat me. I'm just lucky I always wanted to play again! Honestly him never letting me win made me a better sport but also a better player / person.
“He’s single ladies” 😂😂😂
What an awesome wingman 😂👌🏼
The first yugioh card i remember having was gravekeeper's spy, I was 4 (2005) Anybody know what set that is likely to be?
Love you guys! So much diversity in personality's and you guys really know your shit. You guys make me pumped to get back into Yugioh. Keep up the good work!
+snappytomdory Thanks! It's refreshing to hear that. We'll keep on chugging on!
Hey , guys did anyone knows when Links come to YgoPro
Yugioh came out when I was in college.
I got my sister into it when she was 6. She's 9 now and only just got her head around fusions and XYZ. she's always struggled with synchro and she just full stop does not understand link or pendulum.
I started when I was about 13 and understood every summoning mechanic almost immediately. I'd say to start them off learning the game, get a kid about 10. Older kids are more likely to understand and 10 seams safe.
I used to play pokemon tcg all the time. When I got bored one day, I decided to try out another card game. I heard about magic all the time, but wait, what's this one? "You gee ow? Nobody ever seems to talk about this one. I wonder what's it like?" I got duel links on my phone and played it. I chose Kaiba because I thought his name was cool, and because he looked kind of like me, and It was fascinating looking at all the cards. "Mahjong munia maidens" was one of my favorite cards. I liked the design of their silk dresses, and I thought its effect was really good lmao.
After about 2 days of playing, I decided to try the actual game. Went to Walmart, found a link strike starter deck, and what's this? A Seto Kaiba starter deck reloaded?! Cool!
Got home and I've been playing it ever since. I even found some other kids to play it with me at school. I love just about everything about this game. The designs of the cards, the amount of strategy and decision making needed to win, and the tv show and its characters.
When yugioh first came out I was 12 yrs old, and I was not scared the pictures was the thing that attracted me to it. I was quitting Pokemon to play yugioh
When I was 6 years old I played Yu-Gi-Oh
The day I started playing yugioh was when I was in elementary school (so yeah, I fit into that 6+ range) my dad got me a starter deck yugi, kaiba, and Joey (not at the same time... I think) but it was really more for educational purposes. (Too increase my skill in reading and math, and it did!). My opinion is, I think the age category is fine, and it can be used as an educational tool while creating these images from flavor texts and just the cards overall appearance. Truly tho, it just matters on the interest and maturity of whoever plays this card game.
Wow you must be really fun at parties. Being into yugioh for educational purposes lmaoooo
I only had a hard time learning Link Summoning because it was mostly just talked about. I learn things better when I have visual demos to look at.
After I tried Link Summoning out myself, I understood it better, just like when I first tried out Pendulums.
Still playing Pendulum Magicians in the Link format😁
My local card shop is now on TCG player and now instead of binders there's keyboards 😭
Is that background music from persona 5?
My two archetypes are Evilswarm and Charmers. Evilswarm for my competitive (with friends, not at locals.), Charmers are my personal favorite.
Yugioh is a game for everyone to enjoy and bond over. Although some elitists seem to think otherwise
bruh the panda with blood on his mouth kicking the table will haunt kids enough lmao
I'm 12 and I consider myself a pretty decent player.I'm ok at the game, and know all the rules. I run anything from raw power decks to pendulum to cyber dragons. I really enjoy the game and hope to go locals sometime late 2018 early to mid 2019. WISH ME LUCK !!!
Hey team aps I just started playing Yu-Gi-Oh about 3 days ago and your pretty much the only RUclipsr I'm watching these days 😂 got any tips for my early game like mistakes I don't want to make
I played the game when it first came out because of the show like everybody else did. My son is 10 now and he watched the original show on Netflix and wa ted to play. I was always more of a "character deck" builder so he was able to take my old decks and learn. And we've since added a few older characters and play on weekends at the house. Everybody from the original series from yugi to espa roba and all. It's fun that way. I'm glad he has no desire to play competitively
Hey guys, how much is Judgment Dragon ult from turbo pack 1 worth?
A LOT! It averages around $60 to $90.
Team APS Thank you so much for answering that! I love you guys :D Getting back to ygo just because of your videos
Really loving the Persona music in the background!
I think it should be taken case by case because in our locals, we have 4 kids and their skill level ranges from a 12 year old playing fluffal OTK and coming around 4th every weekend to a 10 year old playing the Master Pendulum structure deck.
*Note*: Yes, our locals does use the link format.
I'm 12 is that a good age for yugioh?
do you guys know that in japan the packs actualy say ages 13+ and all of the "archfiend" cards in japaneese are "demon"
I’d say the game is ages 10+. I started playing back in 03 and I was 9 years old. Maybe didn’t follow tournament rules, but still had a blast playing with friends. Only a couple years later I was going to locals for the first time
I tied to teach my brother how to play and he didn't understand some of the concepts but still understood most of it.
Yu-Gi-Oh came out for me when I was 13. I told my kids and wife I wouldn't mind if they played when they turn 13 that way they'll know to keep their cards safe and they can choose what they want to put in their decks after I give it to them. I made all my kids their decks already and my oldest kid is only nine so there's still some time left. my door is always open for teaching people Yu-Gi-Oh, I have binders people can go through and just take whatever they want to make their deck stronger. when I see kids at the tournament I try to make it fun for them and help them like I do anyone else, yeah I'll go a little easier on him so they can understand the game better and have a great time and when I have to make finishing blows I'll make it kind of like the anime so they have a great time even if they lose, but most of the time I let them win the only reason why they lose sometimes is because sometimes it's hard to lose on purpose. but I do agree I do believe they should be for 13 and up that way people can understand the value of their cards cards can be less damage because the people are older and they can respect their cards more
I learned how to use link monsters in less than 150 seconds because I had just bought the cyberse link deck and was reading the rule book.
I'm not a huge fan of Yugioh in general, I've mostly been watching this channel because I really like the passion and personality of the team. My take on the TCG world has been shaped by playing a handful of tcgs over the years. Pokemon, Digimon, Yugioh, MtG, Redakai...etc
Personally, in terms of community and game balance, I think Pokemon has done a much better job in building a community that can host kids. But as a direct result, my local Pokemon TCG community seems to ONLY have kids and a few older oddballs like myself. (which is why I've stepped away.) It's disappointing that so many card shops either don't host events for Pokemon or seem to only have children in the local Pokemon community. Maybe Pokemon isn't bringing in business? its hard to say.
Pokemon is streamlined, but still fairly strategic. The meta is smaller with the use of a rotation rather than a ban list, which means it is actually fairly easy to learn the meta and understand the majority of the cards you'll come up against in competitive. While singles can be pricey, I've never seen anything like in ygo/mtg and there are almost always viable budget options, with few exceptions, there are never cards that are required to play a competitive deck. The mechanics themselves are simple and you won't end up in the sea of errata, chains and obscure rulings. It just works.
I need more Calvin in your videos. Paul, bring this to the people.
Do we have any sort of analytics pertaining to who's making yugioh profitable for konami? I feel like there's a chance that children and parents could definitely be a larger paying group than casual/ competitive players, and to be honest the art gets dark but cards are honestly small. Kids probably dont read too much into it
if a monster has effects negated is it a normal monster
Love what you do, and don't let anyone judge your for it.
I am a ten years old and I play in tournaments and win about half of my matches
I run mekk-knight I love all of the little mechanized warriors
CK Rocket Rosen I’m 12 and I play Cyber Dragons
I'm 31 and I still play. I'm going to teach my kid to play as well. I think its great for all ages 6+, however I think tournaments and more serious play should be reserved for older teens and adults. I'll probably be playing this game until I die. Used to do tournies, but now family and work get in the way. Though I still enjoy casual duels whenever I can have them.
Honestly I think kids under 10 should start with YGO video games. It saves money and enforces the rules. I've had both cards and video games, but from a personal perspective I didn't know a lot of people who played in real life to justify the means of buying cards all the time. That was my case till I was teenager in the 5D's era where I found local TCG communities.
i love watching your videos although im not even that good at yugioh and i dont understand the "dueling slang" you guys have when you talk about specific decks lol
Thanks! Maybe we'll make a video explaining all the crazy terminology. Cause I get it, that can get really overwhelming after a while.
You don't have to go out of your way if you're already busy with things. Your videos are like my only source of learning new things out of the game lol. I partially blame myself for not putting enough effort for research. Keep up the good work, you keep my attention and actually got me somewhat into the game again haha
Say guys, do you potentially have an Idea for a Topologic Bomber Dragon deck?
I see a lot of potential using it along with something like Black Garden.
Team APS that might be a fun idea, I kinda wanna try using it as a Link red dragon archfiend myself
Me and my friends easily played yu-gi-oh as younger (6-8) kids sure at the time 5ds was the popping show and it was an easier game to understand and play but even now as a player getting back into it the new rules just grow on you and they are easy to understand after playing a couple games
I used to think that yugioh should be 12+ but my cousin is 10yrs old and follows all rules completely fine, so I’d say it just depends on how mature you are
I think it's targeted for children, but more adults play it then kids. Some of the kids don't like to play because most of the adult players in the community ruin it for them.
For the most part, the elitism of Yugioh is what drive some people away. Some people just like to play for fun, but there are those people who take it to the extreme.
I agree with both of you.
Id say collecting cards is for kids, but the rules are set up for competitive adults. Otherwise card text wouldnt be 10 intricate sentences where a semi colon completely.changes the way a card can be played.
Adults don't ruin Yu-Gi-Oh for me, its just the competitive players always criticizing the fact I use Crystal Beasts, but then again, lets be real here. Crystal Beast = Not Meta
Knox you are talking for me. (the extreme part)
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+Team APS I'm 13 and I totally agree with you guys. I am the best at my locals, not because I have parents who buy me everything, but I earn money buy buying and reselling online, I am getting around $200 aud a week (I live in australia) and I try at school, do homework study etc so I can understand more things,soYu-Gi-Oh came quite easily to me. BTW I love u guys (NO HOMO)
Im on the younger side of the yugioh community, but im getting a deck together, (krawlers) and the price was not much of a issue
You live in Louisiana yo?
My 8 year old brother plays Yu-Gi-Oh! He only knows the basics (and doesn't use xyz, synchros etc. yet. Just fusions). I don't take him to the card shop or anything, but I bought him a £25 cyber dragon deck of Ebay and upgraded it. He's currently learning it (I gave it to him yesterday) and I helped him do a duel with my sister. He loves it, but for now does still need help.
I think Yugioh is fine for children. Just don't take them to a card shop. I duel my brother with a dark magician deck thats pretty much three yugi decks (from legendary decks II) combined. Its a good fit. Not too complex and the duels never finish in one/two turns.
I always wanted to play at locals as a kid in middle school but never made it further than beating the usual anime main character wannabe because I just didn't have money for a decent deck, even in highschool. Nowadays, I'd say without a couple hundred dollars it's pretty hard to compete against anything meta and that's facts. You can build a budget deck that will still need support from expensive cards to really be consistent and effective. That, and having experience using multiple different decks gives you knowledge of tech cards from seeing how card interactions work for yourself. I'd definitely say it's not for kids in the competitive scene unless they're being sponsored by their parents. There's just too many additional cards that people throw in nowadays that spice up their decks just to get an edge that it's really just inefficient to have a super budget deck in a competition (unless you're a pro whose main goal in a tournament is to mess with people and kill the meta). To really keep your deck relavent you actually have to acquire all the new cards as they come out, if they will help your deck. Otherwise you're automatically not playing meta and you'll probably be stomped.
The original creator has said multiple times that he made Yu-gi-oh for children. The community changed it into what it is today. But Yu-gi-oh, at its base, is totally for children.
I think the video games allow many younger people to join in the game, but going from that to the real game really needs some dedication. when I was like 11 I played with my ultimate insect deck and roid deck (for which I had to trade a bunch at school) against my friend who had an armed dragon deck and cyber dragon deck. We actually understood the rules and played decently with the cards we had. Maybe him having an older brother ordering some cards for us mightve helpen :')
I'm a 23 year old female who still plays yugioh lol I love it because I bond with my friends and I have a way to relax and feel competitive at the same time. I think EVERYONE should play based on their understanding of wording and strategy. I'm planning on playing for a while until I own my own business.
Been trying to tech my 7 year old brother how to play and it’s been super hard for him to understand
It certainly has shifted out of the 10 and under bracket. This is due to money, as all reasoning for Konami is, and it makes sense in this respect. It started taking more popularity around 2005-2006, and continued to do well. Then the lawsuit stuff pulled away attention, but Konami got full rights back and full control. From 2009 and on, they have been trying to follow the age group base up. They start making it more advanced to keep attention of players who tend to grow out of Yu-Gi-Oh and go to things like mtg. It's actually a smart strategy, you raise difficulty, tech, and speed to keep up with your current fan base. Alot of companies do this in alot of areas, some more subtle than others, and it works for the most part. This almost ensures that you will have a fairly stable number of people hooked for longer RATHER than try to get more and more new fan base by keeping up with ever-changing shows and media with the same Target: kids. The fact that they have a banlist over some rotating block format is also a good strategy, as kids can STILL be roped in and new fan base can be established. Sure it will be fewer and fewer due to said changing media and interest focuses over the years, but you've already got a pretty stable fan-base that you focus on.
I'm saying all this more in response to people saying that Konami doesn't "care" about the fan-base. They certainly care about the fans who have grown up now. They are trying desperately to keep their attention. They care more than your parents. They care more than school counselor paid to care about you. They do the things they do BECAUSE they care, just not in the way you want them to. They care about you being interested and even more about their cash-cow players because of money. Heck, I'd even say they care most about your well-being; a sick/dead player is of zero value. If this doesn't convince you they care then you should look at the banlist. Sure, there are some cards that can be absolutely broken (even I will admit that), but let's be honest with ourselves; this banlist only gets utilized now to stabilize the meta. A stable, linear meta keeps the long-standing fans buying. If a card, archetype, or strategy would shake the meta in any way they immediately bring the ban-hammer down to either restrict it or kill it completely. In either case, they pull whatever concept that would have shook/changed the meta out of the picture completely. The only changes they want to the meta are things that they, themselves, put there that their main money spenders are interested in. Changes to the meta keeps the same core that these long-standing fans are accustom to. If something were to disrupt their play too much, or god-forbid OTK/FTK just a hard or harder than these meta players, their feelings get hurt and they may lose interest. Ban-Hammer Powers, Activate...all to keep everyone they care about hooked and indulgent.
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You guys missed something very obvious the whole entire time. You don't have to play competitively to have fun. I bet almost every player that has ever played has started with their friends, at a young age not following the rules at all.
Omega Phase we played according to the anime's rules. And i started at the age of 5 and now i am 20 years old. This game is for all ages, have fun guys!
XD MY FRIENDS GOT ME INTO YUGIOH NOT KNOWING CARDS WOULD HAVE BOOBS
Kyle Milici not me
I actually started when I was 15 going into 16, XYZ’s were the fairly common thing at the time and I had a group of friends who all grew up playing teaching me the basic rules.
Stuff like MST and Dust Tornado negate, that whole shebang.
"This thing dwells in the darkness of hell.." I fucking lost it! xD
I think that when yugioh first made it's debut back in 2003, 6+ was appropriate. but the game grew up with that first batch of players.and its become especially hard for the original 6+ demographic to get into the current form of the game. especially after Pendulum and link monsters happened.
i'm a 6th grader and i have a 10th grade reading level is it ok to play yugiho
+Andro Fuentes You're totally good lol
When I have a kid, I'm totally going to teach them how to play and play YuGiOh with them if they enjoy it. I would also fully let them play in Dragon Duels. And to start I'll get them some stuff, but if they want to play competitive with an expensive deck, they'll have to work for it somehow. That's my opinion.
I bought my son who is 8 a couple of starter decks for Christmas and i am teaching how to play. OOOO boi it is a struggle and half to teach the rule an regs of the game. He wants to play the way i played when the game first came out. It takes a lot of patience to teach younger players the game.
Back in 2004 I was playing at Valhallas game shop in Denver; and had my ass handed to me by a 8 or less year old kid. He was an example of well funded. He had the best tech and most annoying monsters at the time; I on the other hand had no meta for the most part and never even considered that buying online was a thing.
Losing to Jinzo and random other cards all rare or rarer as the theme seemed to be is stupid and frustrating.At that time I was 19+ years old.