Long term review - Turtle Wax Graphene Flex Wax is it an alternative to ceramic coatings?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024

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  • @johnfranklin5277
    @johnfranklin5277 11 месяцев назад +6

    I started using this product last spring. At 1st I definitely used more than necessary, and it was difficult to get streaks smoothed out. But no big deal. I totally enjoy hand waxing my cars, and at 64, I still do. I dont mind that this wax is more labor intensive to deal with, because the results are WORTH IT . 2 years ago i bought a new car in a beautiful red metallic . I waxed it with my usual Maguires wax, it did look nice, but it didn't have a WOW factor. I tried other ones also, but still blah so so. I tried this one, worked my butt off getting it done, about 3 hours, pulled it out into the southern California sun, and immediately I said, WOW!!! This product just works fantastic on this color. I reapply it as a drying aid, and now have got the hang of it. I wash my car once a week. I applied it the 1st week of june, and in october I noticed the water beading on the hood and trunk were fading, but still sheeting well. The sides were still beading fine. So about 3 and a half months between reapplying. Im fine with that. Im definitely happy with it and will continue to use it. 😊

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for the feedback! Glad you like the product and found a workable approach for you.

  • @smitty858
    @smitty858 2 года назад +7

    I just applied this as a topper to TW ceramic graphene infused paste wax. The gloss is fantastic. Given that most ceramics last 6mos to a year and cost a lot more, I prefer the ease of use of TW flex and ease of removal. One correction: the instructions on the back of the bottle provide for a 24 hour cure time.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +2

      Sorry for the late reply and thanks for the correction!
      Spray on products are as you say in general easy to apply and also to maintain and also relatively speaking easy to remove if need compare to e.g. ceramic coatings. I just wish it could have held out a bit longer.

    • @audieconrad8995
      @audieconrad8995 2 года назад +2

      Dude that combination is sick. I use the same combo on my flat red GTI. Gloss/depth of shine/protection is unbeatable.

  • @keithhorwood4585
    @keithhorwood4585 Год назад +6

    Hi when you use this product if difficult to remove use a damp towel then dry cloths you will find it easier. Cheers Keith

  • @takeovaLA
    @takeovaLA 2 года назад +2

    I used it during winter and it lasted like 3 or 4 months with 0 maintenance here in the harsh winter started to fade slowly until it completely died wonder how it would have done if I did do the maintenance spray on and off but again during winter I don’t remember washing the car much as for gloss on my 2022 civic with white paint I really don’t remember being amazed with the gloss it looked the same what added gloss to the paint was when I used meguiars wash and wax leaves the paint beautiful

  • @PhilArndt1
    @PhilArndt1 2 года назад +5

    have also had hard times buffing it out while only using 1 to 2 sprays per panel but it did finally become streak free but took a lot of work

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the input! Not sure what it could be, but as you say it requires some effort to level it down

    • @audieconrad8995
      @audieconrad8995 2 года назад +1

      @Lee Francis yup! Easy!

    • @takeovaLA
      @takeovaLA 2 года назад

      @@Themazcorner is it harder to apply than a ceramic coating?

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      In my opinion e.g. Gyeon Mohs Evo(and none Evo for that matter) is much more simple to apply and specifically when removing the excess

    • @MlleVB
      @MlleVB 5 месяцев назад +1

      any tips? its really really hard to buff off, even with damped towel

  • @netwt449
    @netwt449 2 года назад

    The more I hear about Flex Wax, the more I feel the base coat is better applied by soft machine buffing. THX for this informative video.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад

      Thank glad you liked it.
      Wonder how your approach would work, have no car to try that on unfortunately

  • @odinikita4821
    @odinikita4821 8 месяцев назад +2

    In my experience the reality is this wax does have a curing time of about 24 to 48 hours in which the gloss just increases and increases

  • @matsudakodo
    @matsudakodo Год назад

    In my experience, a fine grade clay towel does not mar/scratch, even on Japanese paint. Just did my whole car with one.

  • @sidneydunston
    @sidneydunston 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the update. I utilized the TW graphene infused product line on my vehicle. Used the compound (no protection), the "to the max" wax and then the flex wax. The initial application of all three was super easy and went very smoothly. Coming up on 6 months and I'm experiencing the same behavior (application and hydroponic) you're describing with the flex wax. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong but others are seeing it too. Thanks.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for the feedback!
      Did you also find it a bit tricky to remove after applying without using a damp cloth?

    • @sidneydunston
      @sidneydunston 2 года назад

      @@Themazcorner On the initial application, I did not have an issue. However, on subsequent applications of the Flex wax (either spray on/rinse off or apply when wet and dry) it has been very difficult to remove.

    • @zikem1006
      @zikem1006 2 года назад

      I did it last week the whole process and I didn’t have any issues, i Used a sponge and apply the product each panel passing 3 times by panel and no residue

    • @sidneydunston
      @sidneydunston 2 года назад +1

      @@zikem1006 Like you, I had no issues with the base application. I started seeing issues with the removal at around the 4 month mark.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      @@zikem1006 thanks for the input! Not sure why I was experiencing the application the way I did

  • @davidmcarthur7029
    @davidmcarthur7029 2 года назад +2

    Hi, I light polished my 370 Z, 4 years old. And paint correction was perfect, but I used Flex to Max liquid and it streaked bad . I carefully waited 2-3 mins in a cool 64 degree garage . ??? Can't seem to get the streak marks out. YET it worked perfect on my polished two year old KIA????? Baffled How do I get rid of the streaking?

    • @smitty858
      @smitty858 2 года назад

      I think your problem is you waited 2-3 mins to wipe off the product. The instructions on the bottle say two sprays per panel, wipe product, and then buff to finish. No wait time is provided in the instructions. I just applied to my vehicle as a topper over TW ceramic graphene wax and it looks amazing. I didn’t encounter any streaking. To get streaks off first try a wet microfiber towel. If that doesn’t work then spray product over streaks, wipe, and buff. If that doesn’t work then you likely need a DA polisher over streaks.

    • @davidmcarthur7029
      @davidmcarthur7029 2 года назад

      @@smitty858 Thats the spray wax your talking about. I used the liquid wax, that clearly states wait two to three mins for it to haze.....

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад

      One option is to reach out TW and ask what they recommend otherwise running strip washes and maybe that will hopefully dissolve sealant or also as advised to polish it off as a last resort.

    • @davidmcarthur7029
      @davidmcarthur7029 2 года назад

      @@Themazcorner I did and they never answered..

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад

      Ohh 😞

  • @axylus9890
    @axylus9890 Год назад

    im interested in using this product... but does this damage the paint and/or clear coat in the long run?

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  Год назад

      Quite the opposite I would say. Just follow the instructions

  • @dronetechaz
    @dronetechaz 11 месяцев назад +1

    it is very hard to take off as well for me.

  • @Dan-xj9vd
    @Dan-xj9vd 2 года назад

    On a different subject, how do you like your ID.3 ? We can't order ID.3 in North America. My wife ordered the back order ID.4 last October. It is a 12-15 months delivery time for Canada according the dealer!

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      Nice, congrats! But the car market is crazy now with regards to lead times etc....
      As a daily for a "normal" person it is a really good car. I had my fair share of issues in the beginning but after the last visit to the dealer I have had no issues. Thinking if I should do a 1 year review or not. It's not a fun car as such hence the "normal" reference but fully adequatefor daily duty. There are some things I don't like, the interior materials(a bitt different in the ID4 though), the touch-buttons, the brakes :D and also don't like the app it feels a bit half-assed....
      However you need to keep in mind, during winter driving the capacity is reduced quite a bit. Also the app is not good in my opinion.

    • @Dan-xj9vd
      @Dan-xj9vd 2 года назад

      @@Themazcorner Do you have a heat pump on the ID.3 ? The ID.4 for the canadian market is equiped with it but not for the USA market. It makes a difference for the battery here during winter. A review would be a good idea for your friends in Canada. We have similar weather than Sweden. The review from USA are always from a guy in the southern states and not really fitting with our climate.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      @@Dan-xj9vd I do have a heat pump. It works but it does consume quite a bit of juice when running specially when heating up the car whilst parked.
      Also as I have understood at the moment the heating of the battery is not working when having a departure time set
      "The review from USA are always from a guy in the southern states" :D. We had -19 a week or so ago, should hold out to se if we do get similar weather and I can do some tests.
      Otherwise check this guys channel: ruclips.net/user/bjornnyland

    • @Dan-xj9vd
      @Dan-xj9vd 2 года назад

      @@Themazcorner Yes, I already watched the video where he drove from Norway to Gothenburn/Lund area.

  • @AndrewMorrison3
    @AndrewMorrison3 2 года назад +1

    Turtle wax has a winner with Seal n' shine and ceramic spray coating but this one is a definite step down

  • @Dan-xj9vd
    @Dan-xj9vd 2 года назад +1

    Hey Maz, I was looking to use the Graphene wax or coating on my MX-5 wheel. Looking for an alternative for the brake dust. I have the Sonax ceramic coating on the rest of the car. How do you keep you wheels clean?

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      Hey bud! For the wheels I would go for something that is more resistive to heat. I have mainly used ceramic coatings for my calipers and wheels. I have mainly used Carpro DLux or Gyeon Rim
      Either way to reach a good result a thorough clean is needed. I have a video of the process I use: ruclips.net/video/7xUxcN9IZ2Y/видео.html
      What did on my calipers from the attached video is still working as day one and I have done track days, autox and had really high temps and no issues.

    • @Dan-xj9vd
      @Dan-xj9vd 2 года назад

      @@Themazcorner It was a video that I missed. I will try that on my caliper since my MX-5 is in my garage for 3 winter months :( I like the winter season but I hate to not being able to drive and enjoy my miata.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      @@Dan-xj9vd Check it out, let me know if you have any questions. I have some videos for the wheels as well. Not much different than doing it on the car. Just need to make sure the wheels are as clean as possible
      I would love to have some summer sun now to say the least

    • @Dan-xj9vd
      @Dan-xj9vd 2 года назад

      @@Themazcorner Weather in Stockholm is milder than here in Montreal. Does it give you a chance to take the MX-5 on the road during winter?

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад

      @@Dan-xj9vd I could but my OCD is to strong so ... :D

  • @soapa4279
    @soapa4279 2 года назад +2

    IMO, anyone going through the trouble of doing a full paint prep, and one step polish. Just go with an actual coating.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +2

      I do get an adequate finish with a one step polish. The cars that are my daily driven there is no point in my opinion to have a more perfected paint. But of course this is up to everyone on what they want to achieve with the "final product"
      those extra 5-10% with a two-step polish is not worth in my opinion for a daily driven car. If I would have had customers then that is a different topic if they want to have as good as result as possible. Even on my other cars with metallic paint the one step polish has been fully satisfactory for me.
      But agreed for the best result a two-step polish is the way to go

    • @soapa4279
      @soapa4279 2 года назад

      @@Themazcorner I was more referring to the amount of work a paint prep and one step polish already is, to not use a spray coating that doesn't appear to last that long (the TW Flex wax in this case.) and just go with a full coating.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад

      ahh sorry I missunderstood you!
      That is a valid aspect, however if "only" a spray on sealant is used it will give the same/similar type of protection as a ceramic coating. However it will not be as long lasting but if maintained regularly the effect are the same more or less.
      One of the major benefits as I see with not having a ceramic coating is that it is actually quite easy to remove spray sealants and waxes.

    • @burnlikeneon4044
      @burnlikeneon4044 2 года назад

      What is an actual coating?

    • @soapa4279
      @soapa4279 2 года назад

      @@burnlikeneon4044 The ones that turn to glass after 12-24 hours, typically considered "true coatings." and the ones usually in 30-50ml bottles.

  • @actionjksn
    @actionjksn 2 года назад

    I just got a bottle of this for $10 and just washed my truck. I'm going to use it and then apply again in about a week and that should hold up better. I assume this will still last longer than regular wax?

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад

      If applied according to the instructions and also adding a second layer I would say it would be lasting longer than regular waxes.
      Also maintaining the product is easier than was as well as you can do it rather quickly together with a wash

  • @billbuss7542
    @billbuss7542 2 месяца назад

    They recommend a damp cloth to wipe it off.

  • @tomolson9066
    @tomolson9066 3 месяца назад

    graphene is grabby when wiping off unlike SIO2. But great results.

  • @nelsonrivera4976
    @nelsonrivera4976 2 года назад +1

    Para ponerlo remover necesitas 2 toalla una umeda y la otra seca

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад

      Yes that seems to be what is needed. However it should be mentioned from the get go that a damp towel should always be used more or less

  • @szabolcs8349
    @szabolcs8349 Год назад +1

    It is very difficult to use. It is quite impossible to remove. I have tried a lot of sealants, waxes and cramic coatings and I have to say, this Flex Wax is not 2023 level. After removing with microfiber towel even 3 or 4 times remain a lot of swirls and other residues and the car will be very ugly. I have tried in 25 Celsius degrees, in 30 celsius degrees, inside and outside but nothing changed. It is definetly not easy to use.

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  Год назад

      thanks for the feedback!

    • @lonewolf4827
      @lonewolf4827 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. Streaked like crazy on my black paint.
      I hope I just over applied the product.

  • @coyotecarguy2076
    @coyotecarguy2076 2 года назад +2

    Good Product .. you can see the water Beads off -n- Sh!t

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      Hey bud 😅 long time no see! Hope all is good! Merry Christmas 🎄

    • @coyotecarguy2076
      @coyotecarguy2076 2 года назад +1

      @@Themazcorner . . You 2 Bud!

  • @johnpolosino7819
    @johnpolosino7819 2 года назад

    Why wouldn't you add same product as top coat ?

    • @Themazcorner
      @Themazcorner  2 года назад +1

      I wanted to test how long the base coat lasts. Otherwise one could opt for adding e.g. Gyeon wet coat or similar every other two weeks and achieve the same thing more or less.

  • @paulmorgan6269
    @paulmorgan6269 4 месяца назад

    Needs more work than others. Time is important and spending 10 or
    15 minutes more is not a good thing.