Great video! We have an Atto 3 and only charge using the 10amp EVSE that came with the car. So easy and more than covers my commute of 50km a day. Only charge once or twice a week overnight. No interest in getting a faster charger. We just use DC fast chargers on longer road trips. We’ll never go back to ICE 😊
Good video Greg. It would have been good to mention the cheaper EV electricity plans for electricity used to charge an EV during off-peak hours. Multiple electricity retailers now offer these EV plans. Most of these plans charge 8 cents/kWh, but at least one charges 4 cents/kWh, and Ovo even provide free electricity from 11 am until 2 pm. I'm with Origin and I pay 8 cents/kWh - so a full charge would cost me around $4.80, which equals ~$1.06 in electricity to drive 100 kms. I charge during the day when there is the highest amount of renewable energy (solar) in the grid.
Thanks for watching. Agreed, I have been trying to make the videos shorter but once I start talking they just get longer. I might make a separate one. 👍
also worth mentioning that with an extension cable (or any cable in use for high wattage usage), not to have it coiled up, make an S back and forth or a figure 8. It creates an induction coil when coiled, I have done that with a 2000w light and after 40min it popped a fuse and the cable was super hot. Also it's good you talked about constant load. In the usa their nema 14-50 plugs are melting because they are the regular ones and not the high quality ones, they are used for dryers but people are plugging in evs. They are learning that the electrical code is not rating things for constant loads and only intermittent loads
Good video for the Newbies. Extension leads are an excellent topic. Like yourself I use a 15A rated lead with the 1.5mm copper. Works well with the Tesla 10A "tail". Limited to 10m like you suggested. It's worth testing the temp at the socket to make sure resistance isn't getting out of control. Slightly warm to touch is usually OK. With the Tesla EVSE, the included 10A and 15A adapters have temp sensors in them so you do lose a little overtemp backup with an extension lead as the EVSE can't detect the temp at the 10A outlet. It does look either the EVSE or car's charger will drop the current if voltage drop is high.
I use a cheap 20m 10 amp Bunnings extension lead, and I have NEVER felt it get warm. If anything, it has been COLD being outside in the cool night air.
@greghudson9717 just need to watch the voltage drop. Voltage at our place via a 10A lead can be as low as 218v. Voltage over 230V using the heavy duty 15A one (pulling 10A).
I have 6.4kW of solar, and generate an average of 32kWh per day (in Melbourne). I also have a 13.5 kWh Tesla PowerWall2 battery, which is generally enough to run the house all night. Any power over and above what we need to fill the battery during the day goes straight into our Tesla Model 3. So we get free power for the house basically all day and night, and free driving for around 400km. It is a win win situation. If you have a house, add solar like the other 3.6 million homes that already have it. You won't regret it.
Thanks for watching and great advice. If you have the $$ its a no brainer! I'm waiting for my 14 year old off-grid lead acid battery bank to die so I can upgrade to lithium but they just keep going :)
Hi mate I’m running a Zappi smart charger it’ can come tethered with a 7 kWh type two plug I’m charging an Atto and a old leaf I got a type 1 to type 2 adapter for the leaf which works fine 😁👍
36c/kwh! Holy shit! Tasmania peak is 33c and off peak is 16c. Off peak is 9pm-7am, then 10am till 4pm. Charge from 9pm till 7am and during the day from 10-4 + solar.
Greg, in Adelaide I have a charging station just 400 m from my house and it's by a company called Jolt who offer 7kw of free charging everyday. I usually charge my MG ZS EV up to 10kw at a time and this only cost me $1.50. Have a 10kw and a 20kw charger at home but with the 7kw of free energy daily it pays for me to use the Jolt network. I do not know if Jolt operate in Queensland.
Hi David, thanks for watching. Yes I have used Jolt in NSW but haven't seen them in Qld. Great idea as the advertising pays for the charge....as long as they are in convenient spots to stop :)
holden volt? my chevy volt here uses type 1 here in the us. guessing the few holden volts in australia still used type 1's? i put solar panels on my volt and expanded the battery on the 12v side by an extra 4kwh, and installed a small micro inverter so i can plug my house into my car and park it outside once its done charging. getting about 1.3kwh/day discount on my power bill and the mods make my 32mile 2013 phev last for around 45-55miles instead. any long trips are gas which is still cheaper and way faster than super charging. also not good for the bats. i made a post on the gm volt forums under gen1->modifications section
I have a Polestar and drive around 500kms a week. I would recommend installing a wallbox 11kw charger. I charge overnight at 8cents per kWh. Including the 10% , I assume 20kWh per 100kms. That's what a $1.60 per 100kms. Anyone who wants to keep their gas guzzler MUST have rocks in their head.
Great video actually the new MG ZS ev MY2021 and beyond take 3 phase 11kwh AC charging my model 2022 is a dream almost always at 9.50kwh even at higher state of charge it is really quick I try to lower on my charger instead and charge Lower speed due to load level on my sockets as I have old house 1969 with old wires I believe my DC charge is at 90kWh now also improved from the first gen.
Thanks for watching. Yes the newer model has improved both DC and AC charging. That's why it's always a good idea to future proof when buying leads/chargers and go the next level up, if you can afford it of course. Even with my 2020 model I still bought a 22kw type 2 to type 2 lead and a 22kw portable home charger (EVSE) so if/when I upgrade the MG and/or move to a new house with 3 phase (or travelling) I am all set. Cheers
@@ElectricCarAustraliatrue I installed my charger in 2019 and back then my car then accepted Only 7.2 and i installed a charger managing 11 kWh but my new car accepts 11kwh so that was lucky but now I would install for sure 22 kWh charger for next time. We will most likely need a second charger any way since second l ev will be procured now in August let’s see how long we can share the one charger 😅
Anyway, someone could take this info and try and gleem it's education for us, who live in the United Sates? as someone new to the EV car charging marketplace, one thing that I wonder about is, are the charging networks charging the same exact rate in all 50 States, or can it vary from state to state? it seems unfair to me, to think for example That Tesla or Charge Point, etc..charge the same rate for EV charging in New Mexico or SouthDakota, or other far less urban population centers in those states, as opposed to heavy densely populated states like New York or California ?
@@flolou8496 Thanks for watching. I assume, as in Australia, retail electricity rates would be different across areas. Hopefully, once you know your rate, the video helps everyone do the calculation. 👍
You probably already know this but the 10 amp charger is not a charger. The charger is on board the vehicle. What you are holding is an interface between the power outlet and the the vehicle on board charger.
Great video! We have an Atto 3 and only charge using the 10amp EVSE that came with the car. So easy and more than covers my commute of 50km a day. Only charge once or twice a week overnight. No interest in getting a faster charger. We just use DC fast chargers on longer road trips. We’ll never go back to ICE 😊
Thanks for the comment. Yep, you echo most EV drivers such a no brainier these days. 👍
Good video Greg. It would have been good to mention the cheaper EV electricity plans for electricity used to charge an EV during off-peak hours. Multiple electricity retailers now offer these EV plans. Most of these plans charge 8 cents/kWh, but at least one charges 4 cents/kWh, and Ovo even provide free electricity from 11 am until 2 pm. I'm with Origin and I pay 8 cents/kWh - so a full charge would cost me around $4.80, which equals ~$1.06 in electricity to drive 100 kms. I charge during the day when there is the highest amount of renewable energy (solar) in the grid.
Thanks for watching. Agreed, I have been trying to make the videos shorter but once I start talking they just get longer. I might make a separate one. 👍
Don't you work your just the same bullshiter as most woke person
SO if you Worked 9 to 5 PM where would you charge ??? And at what time ?
@@SillySausage-mq3so thanks for the comment. For me on days I can't charge I charge overnight and pay $0.36 kWh same as example in video. Cheers
@@SillySausage-mq3so exactly
Cheers Greg, thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
Thanks for watching, glad you like them!
also worth mentioning that with an extension cable (or any cable in use for high wattage usage), not to have it coiled up, make an S back and forth or a figure 8. It creates an induction coil when coiled, I have done that with a 2000w light and after 40min it popped a fuse and the cable was super hot.
Also it's good you talked about constant load. In the usa their nema 14-50 plugs are melting because they are the regular ones and not the high quality ones, they are used for dryers but people are plugging in evs. They are learning that the electrical code is not rating things for constant loads and only intermittent loads
Thanks for watching and good point. I have mentioned it in other videos but forgot in this one......too many things to cram into each one :0
Good video for the Newbies.
Extension leads are an excellent topic. Like yourself I use a 15A rated lead with the 1.5mm copper. Works well with the Tesla 10A "tail". Limited to 10m like you suggested.
It's worth testing the temp at the socket to make sure resistance isn't getting out of control. Slightly warm to touch is usually OK.
With the Tesla EVSE, the included 10A and 15A adapters have temp sensors in them so you do lose a little overtemp backup with an extension lead as the EVSE can't detect the temp at the 10A outlet. It does look either the EVSE or car's charger will drop the current if voltage drop is high.
Thanks for comment. Agree lots of interest in extension leads. Think I will do a separate dedicated video on it in future. Cheers.
I use a cheap 20m 10 amp Bunnings extension lead, and I have NEVER felt it get warm. If anything, it has been COLD being outside in the cool night air.
@greghudson9717 just need to watch the voltage drop. Voltage at our place via a 10A lead can be as low as 218v. Voltage over 230V using the heavy duty 15A one (pulling 10A).
@@Rabs73 I only use it on trips, in caravan parks or whatever. As long as it charges, I don't care about the voltage drop, or losses in the cable.
Great video
@@MrA21586 Thanks 👍
I would check your advice re Mitsu Outlander plug types now. I think they are now type 2.
Thanks for watching and the comment. Yes the newer models are.
I have 6.4kW of solar, and generate an average of 32kWh per day (in Melbourne). I also have a 13.5 kWh Tesla PowerWall2 battery, which is generally enough to run the house all night. Any power over and above what we need to fill the battery during the day goes straight into our Tesla Model 3. So we get free power for the house basically all day and night, and free driving for around 400km. It is a win win situation. If you have a house, add solar like the other 3.6 million homes that already have it. You won't regret it.
Thanks for watching and great advice. If you have the $$ its a no brainer!
I'm waiting for my 14 year old off-grid lead acid battery bank to die so I can upgrade to lithium but they just keep going :)
I have no solar panels but use the Origin energy EV powerup app . Costs me 0.08 cents per KWH to charge .
Ovo does EV plan 8 c 12 - 6 am and free from 11 - 2pm. Im not sure if this is location dependant.
Great. Your grid charge will be even cheaper than my example. 👍
Thanks for watching and sharing the comment.
Hi mate I’m running a Zappi smart charger it’ can come tethered with a 7 kWh type two plug I’m charging an Atto and a old leaf I got a type 1 to type 2 adapter for the leaf which works fine 😁👍
@@rohankilby4499 Nice! Thanks for sharing. 👍
36c/kwh! Holy shit! Tasmania peak is 33c and off peak is 16c. Off peak is 9pm-7am, then 10am till 4pm. Charge from 9pm till 7am and during the day from 10-4 + solar.
@@ausnorman8050 Lucky! I have heard of up to $0.48 peak in Australia.
15A GPO as for clothes driers etc gives 3 KW. Great for overnight charges 30-35KWhr
@@jimgraham6722 Agree. That's coming Ng in a seperate video. 👍
Greg, in Adelaide I have a charging station just 400 m from my house and it's by a company called Jolt who offer 7kw of free charging everyday. I usually charge my MG ZS EV up to 10kw at a time and this only cost me $1.50. Have a 10kw and a 20kw charger at home but with the 7kw of free energy daily it pays for me to use the Jolt network. I do not know if Jolt operate in Queensland.
Hi David, thanks for watching. Yes I have used Jolt in NSW but haven't seen them in Qld. Great idea as the advertising pays for the charge....as long as they are in convenient spots to stop :)
holden volt? my chevy volt here uses type 1 here in the us. guessing the few holden volts in australia still used type 1's?
i put solar panels on my volt and expanded the battery on the 12v side by an extra 4kwh, and installed a small micro inverter so i can plug my house into my car and park it outside once its done charging. getting about 1.3kwh/day discount on my power bill and the mods make my 32mile 2013 phev last for around 45-55miles instead. any long trips are gas which is still cheaper and way faster than super charging. also not good for the bats. i made a post on the gm volt forums under gen1->modifications section
Thanks for watching and sharing your interesting upgrades.
I have a Polestar and drive around 500kms a week. I would recommend installing a wallbox 11kw charger. I charge overnight at 8cents per kWh. Including the 10% , I assume 20kWh per 100kms. That's what a $1.60 per 100kms. Anyone who wants to keep their gas guzzler MUST have rocks in their head.
Thanks for sharing your EV ownership and charging experience. It really helps out the community with genuine advice and insights from real owners.
Great video actually the new MG ZS ev MY2021 and beyond take 3 phase 11kwh AC charging my model 2022 is a dream almost always at 9.50kwh even at higher state of charge it is really quick I try to lower on my charger instead and charge Lower speed due to load level on my sockets as I have old house 1969 with old wires
I believe my DC charge is at 90kWh now also improved from the first gen.
Thanks for watching. Yes the newer model has improved both DC and AC charging. That's why it's always a good idea to future proof when buying leads/chargers and go the next level up, if you can afford it of course. Even with my 2020 model I still bought a 22kw type 2 to type 2 lead and a 22kw portable home charger (EVSE) so if/when I upgrade the MG and/or move to a new house with 3 phase (or travelling) I am all set. Cheers
@@ElectricCarAustraliatrue I installed my charger in 2019 and back then my car then accepted
Only 7.2 and i installed a charger managing 11 kWh but my new car accepts 11kwh so that was lucky but now I would install for sure 22 kWh charger for next time. We will most likely need a second charger any way since second l ev will be procured now in August let’s see how long we can share the one charger 😅
Anyway, someone could take this info and try and gleem it's education for us, who live in the United Sates? as someone new to the EV car charging marketplace,
one thing that I wonder about is, are the charging networks charging the same exact rate in all 50 States, or can it vary from state to state?
it seems unfair to me, to think for example That Tesla or Charge Point, etc..charge the same rate for EV charging in New Mexico or SouthDakota, or other far less urban
population centers in those states, as opposed to heavy densely populated states like New York or California ?
@@flolou8496 Thanks for watching. I assume, as in Australia, retail electricity rates would be different across areas. Hopefully, once you know your rate, the video helps everyone do the calculation. 👍
You probably already know this but the 10 amp charger is not a charger. The charger is on board the vehicle. What you are holding is an interface between the power outlet and the the vehicle on board charger.
Thanks for watching. Yes, I explained that in the video. 👍