Like Tesla and Rivian, hopefully this is what future vehicle buying will be like. More uniform pricing for customers, and we don't have to educate the salespeople on the cars and trucks they are telling to sell us.
I am worried that the $60k Scout will be sold in the same dealership as the $40k Ford Lightning and the $39k Tesla Cybertruck. That dealership has a very bad reputation. 😃
As a former 1974 Scout II owner, I think they absolutley knocked it out of the park. My only concern is, they did not include the pre-rusted out rockers on the prototype. Hopefully the production version will come with holes per-drilled below the doors.
It’s coming from South Carolina so if they store them for a month in the coast line before shipping to customers then the salty air will do the job for free. 😃
3 cups of Rivian, 1.5 cups of Bronco, and a splash of Hummer. Looks amazing! Love the price! Knocked it out of the park with design inside and out :-). The cabana style roof for the Traveler is a great choice!
You must not be familiar with the Scout II. This looks like an updated version of the Scout II, and not a compilation of other designs that took design cues from the Scout II.
Ok, 60K for a base. By 2027 that will be 65K for a base. Add options it will be 75K to 80K plus 5k to 10k dealer mark-up. 90k out the door? You might as well call it another overpriced Jeep.
the cyber truck tried and failed to reinvent everything at every point. it failed at being a truck, but all they invented in that truck, Tesla will use in other vehicles at a cheaper cost in the future if they can just stop being greedy. Now most of what I'm hearing that is on the Scout sounds is tried and true hard core off road bits. Off the shelf stuff is cheap at scale and much more reliable. The connector parts between the axels and electric motor(s) are what would worry me. I still need to see more but i don't think this will be too far of the mark. VW cant fail again.
I have never reserved something so quickly. Finally a company that understands truck owners. I will never get a pure ev truck because I am limited to destinations with ev chargers. But now to have the ability to fill up on gas for remote locations and then for the 90% of the time I am within the city to simply charge an ev at home. Genius. Looking forward to my scout terra.
@@branflakee4257 I currently have a ford maverick hybrid. As fuel efficient as it is, it still consumes too much gas as a daily driver. With a scout coupled with the harvester the fuel savings will easily make up for the increased cost and I’ll still have a generator for all my off grid needs.
My dad had a 1967 International Harvester Scout pickup truck with a snow plow when he was in high school. He also had a 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner at the same time. I rather have it non electric and still made by International.
Very impressive! Hard buttons, quality interior materials, clean design, bidirectional charging... I'm seriously interested in this car when it becomes available.
Love the range extender, as a Chevy Volt owner having that gas backup fixed all the electric car issues, living in rural America. Love the idea of the Rav4 prime with the gas backup. I have the new 2022 Bronco and this might just be my next upgrade.
You realize that the gas backup engine never builds enough heat to burn off moisture or fuel that pools into the oil in the crankcase, right? Water boils off at 212 degrees and these hybrid gas/electric powertrains are an owners nightmare when it comes to costs of repairs since the engine oil never gets to 212F. The gasoline winds up in the oil due to the low tension piston rings they incorporate in the design as the engines never reach the temperature required to vaporize the fuel and send it into the intake to be burned via the PCV system.
@@strykerentllc Those problems can be engineered around, Toyota's hybrid engines are all very reliable, and there are hybrid specific oils that can tolerate more moisture.
@@DripDripDrip69 It's not the oil that's the issue. It's the metals the engine components are manufactured of which aren't exotic corrosion resistant alloys. Toyota's hybrid engines are expensive to maintain as are the batteries to replace. You own one that you can attest to or are you simply defending Toyota for the sake of doing so? Example is the hybrid Camry battery life is 100K miles which can be as short as 4 years for commuters. The cost to maintain the hybrid's ICE is greater than any stand alone ICE powered vehicle, then there's the additional up front cost of the hybrid vehicle. It's not a panacea looking for a problem to cure. It's an answer to a problem that was manufactured by people that live in ivory towers and forced upon the serfs. Hope you do some digging yourself as good information is the best tool any consumer can have when making a vehicle purchase.
Chevy volts hybrid system is great. I’ve talked to multiple owners and they love theirs and haven’t had any problems. And it’s a pretty old range extended ev platform
@@strykerentllcI agree that many hybrid especially power split drivetrains suffering such problems but extended range phevs like classic example chevy volt does not have such problems because primary power is on electric and after battery drained than turning ICE and heat up quite quickly
gasoline version...now im interested! Factory direct...now im interested more. Im done dealing with bloated car dealerships where the sale members know nothing about trucks and off road suv"s
My dealership experience buying a Tesla was AMAZING! Will never buy a vehicle from a dealership again. EVER. Some effing dweeb telling me to wait while he talks to his manager. F that. NEVER again. Glad more manufacturers going that route. Really liking the Scout! Elon dropped the ball on the harvester option.
The public will NEVER get that interior. It will come in bland grey or black like everything else when it hits the market. But that prototype looks cool!
I reserved my Terra Harvester to park next to my 1975 Scout II. I cannot wait! I’ve been part of the owner’s advisory group. They obviously listened to their customer base!
I kinda wish they had a circular element to the headlight as a throwback to the original. Maybe aftermarket will come up with something cool for that. The range extender is awesome and will be what makes this vehicle epic. Every SUV and truck should have that as an option.
Great review, Tommy! Styling is very reminiscent of the Scout II of the '70's and I do like it, but I am finding it a little too "gadgety" and "luxury". I had a 1970 that I wish I still had. Those are great trucks. I appreciate the locking diffs, straight rear axle, 35's but I wish they'd offer a straight mechanical ICE for those of us who just are not interested in Ev's or Hybrids.
No it doesn't. You get more range but you will still have to sit for a half an hour or more at a charger. Then you'll need to fill up the range extender tank.
Range anxiety? This is going to have a NACS port, so presumably access to Tesla's network, and even more charging stations will be built by the time it hits the streets. Range anxiety should be a rapidly fading concept by then. (As it already is for Tesla owners.) I can see the hybrid version being useful for some folks, if they do a lot of towing or if they live in Wyoming maybe, but that's a niche. I predict most won't bother with it.
If you have a range extender, all you have to do is refill the fuel tank and keep on keepin’ on. If you have a range extender and available gasoline, you’re not going to have to sit at a charger if you don’t want to.
My grandfather was an International dealer in the 50-80's, so I'm very familiar with the Scout line, and have tested it in some very offroad terrain. It was hard to beat, and I have always loved the look of the Scouts (orange paint with the white center line racing strip was a favorite, or the pickup version my Dad had for a while). This makes me so happy, and brings me back to my childhood, thank you Scout...
Same, my gramps owned an IH dealer too. Lots of International trucks and Scouts. Four of them still sitting at the farm, including the one I learned to drive.
True story... I grew up in a cult that started in the San Francisco Bay area but the leader/pastor had a 'vision' that we all needed to buy a Scout II and move to the Sierra Neveda Mountians. So, I learned to drive in a Scout II until I smashed the transfer case on a rock wheeling it in the woods and my parents took it away. Great vehicle, weird cultly memories around it though.
Towing capacity, off road capability, truly made in the US, and it's so good looking! This is going to be a game changer. I do wish there was an all gas version. I'm quite nervous about electric vehicles and LOVE the rumble of gas (in most sizes). I've been underwhelmed with Jeep and Stelantis with everything that's going down over there and the Bronco is underwhelming with towing capacity, price, and size. This could be the solution!
My dad had a '73 Travelall when I was in high school. Ours even had ABS, the first time I ever saw ABS in a vehicle. Sadly we sold it cheap when he passed in '84 when anything with a V8 was pretty much worthless because of the gas crisis.
I owned three Scouts at different times over the years. I loved each of them. They were great, off road. On pavement, they were OK. I'm really liking what I'm seeing and hearing so far. My current ride is a 2018 4Runner Off Road Premium and over all, it's my favorite 4X4 that I've owned. I'll be watching the actual launch of the new Scout with great interest. Thanks, Tommy, for the great video.
"I want to believe". If they can bring the range extender version to market for a five figure sticker and it actually works well, this could be the first primarily electric car that actually interests me. Good luck, Scout.
If it's a true hybrid, sure...but this is VW we're talking about and they've bet the farm on EV's...and it currently looks like the farm is going to be in foreclosure soon.
@@berzerkerseamus2955 Edison Motors is doing Semi Truck and 3/4 ton retrofits as Electric with onboard generator. The Generator is your onboard charging station. Works for Locomotives and ships just fine. If Scout uses a range extender (generator), then off road trips become much more piratical as no charging station needed. I bet you could use the generator at camp for power.
@@jaekimchi If only people understood the shortcomings of the gasoline engine in these hybrid systems... FLC is never going to tell the public any vehicle they review is rubbish. If they did, they'd be blackballed by the manufacturers and would be forced to find a new line of yootoob work.
@@strykerentllc This is actually the best way to do a fuel-based range extender. It's just a gas generator that will charge the battery while you drive. If they do it right, it should be the most efficient way to do a "hybrid", but it'll probably be a very expensive addon. Only time will tell.
Scouts have been a part of my life from day one. Had to sell my fully restored 800 to fund my business. Ima bust my a$$ working toward getting one of these when they come out. Can’t wait! It’ll fit in the quiver nicely along side a blown 5.7 Tundra.
This may be my first actual new car. It's everything I wanted in terms of looks and the gas range extender is the only way I'd feel comfortable buying an EV. I'm very interested!!!
Kudos to the new Scout! Very reminiscent in design to the original IH binders. Love the front bench seat and split tailgate. Reminds me of my first car, a 1980 Scout II. Well done!
This is how you make an EV. Traditional and non-offensive, plus it has the range extender. I think we should model future cars on diesel electric trains. The electric motors propel the vehicle while the diesel engine acts as a generator to power the electric motors. In the case of the Scout its a little different. You charge the battery like a normal EV but if you're out in the bush and you start to run low on charge the ICE engine will fire up to keep you going. I think for heavy duty vehicles such as semi trucks we should go the full train style diesel electric route. That way you don't have to lug around a 5 ton battery just to get 500 miles of range (which is less than half that of conventional diesel trucks). Edison motors has built a working truck with that layout and its great.
The Design interior & exterior looks fantastic. Good that Volkswagen is listening to the consumer and are getting those Chrysler designers to actually build products at a price point, consumers are asking for. Congratulations!
I love it. Large electric only vehicles designed to do any semblance of work make no sense at all at this time. Having a generator on board with a smaller battery bank is where the industry should have been pushing all along...better performance, better range, and better for the environment...added bonus is you now own a generator and battery backup system for your home (provided Scout is smart enough to ensure owners can harness all the power the onboard generator creates). This thing is gorgeous.
In other words a "Hybrid", which is where Ford, Toyota, and many other OEM's have refocused their attention (i.e. away from pure EV's) based on what their customers are willing to buy.
@@Mike-In-O-Town I guess you could call it a hybrid...though it is very different from any current hybrids on the market that I know of. What I'm describing (and what Edison Motors, the Ramcharger, and now Scout are doing) is a completely electric powertrain with no transmission or transfer case connected to the combustion engine. The generator motor can be much smaller and more efficient because it is designed/sized only to charge the batteries and doesn't need to move the vehicle or have a high rev range to work with transmission gearing.
I had a Scout I RHD Postal Vehicle. I brought it to Austrailia to use, had a heck of a time importing it, til they realized I had a Diplomatic Passport. I really loved that thing.
Absolutely beautiful. I cannot wait to get the Traveler. This looks so much better than the Rivian R1S. The Scout Traveler looks like a real off road SUV. Capable of having real off road tires, real ground clearance and the proportions on this thing are flawless unlike the Rivian R1S which has a huge butt and polished chrome everywhere trying to look like a mercedes or something. Totally legit.
The coolest thing about the old International Scout was that the whole roof would come off like a Jeep Wrangler. They should have done that. I do like this better than any of the other battery powered electric "trucks" or "off road vehicles" it will compete against. Guaranteed the final price won't be $60K. Glad they're making it in the USA.
I’m gonna be honest, i’m sick of offroad vehicles (especially jeeps) that have the same highway sound deadening as an empty tuna can because of its removable everything
They absolutely nailed it! Looks extremely functional as well as comfortable, 6 seat hybrid with solid axle and body on frame gives a glimmer of hope to the world
As for the design, they done a fantastic job with a updated look to the old scouts. Drivetrain choices and body on frame once again outstanding. Was absolutely interested until I found out it was hybrid or electric. Should have a gas or diesel version while keeping the hybrid versions. Some people in the market want nothing to do with electric vehicles. These would sell like crazy if the gas and diesel versions were available. Especially since jeep is doing it's best to kill itself. Being made in the US is great as well. Sorry, hard pass from me unless a ICE version only is available.
Nope. The naysayers are now claiming the price is a lie and it will be over $100k. Or claiming the range extender will make it more complex and break down constantly.
It looks amazing, but I think everyone (positive and negative) needs to be realistic and admit nothing matters until production units actually hit the market so we can see true price, interior, features, trim levels. I'm very interested in this SUV, but prototypes don't matter.
That's awesome! Body on frame and made in the USA! It looks like a modern-day Scout. That would be cool to drive. The 70s flare is there. I'd have that for a weekend getaway. And keep my 2022 Ford Ranger XLT as my daily. They did good on the Scout! 🤘🏼
Always love comments like this. They haven't built a single production version yet and you're already saluting it as a resounding success. My bet, if it even makes it to market (which I have huge doubts) it will sell for close to $100k which will guarantee its failure given how small a market that price will guarantee.
@Mike-In-O-Town always love comments like this. That one dude knows it all already 🤣. So what i like it. Didn't know that was a problem king. That's why they put videos out like this for feedback. And yeah it's gonna start high Duh living in the world we live in. Are you surprised 😲. But it's actually not 100k. Try half that. So yeah this will work and sell great. People are aloud to comment and think what they want. That's that.
@@Mike-In-O-Town When you consider how cheap the USD has become why would you want this vehicle to be $60k? That would just assure cheap materials and probably worse.
@@MatthewC137 Personally, this vehicle in its current form is of no interest to me regardless what it costs. If they wanna be true to Scout and IH, give the thing a IC motor, and make it a simple one.
My grandfather had a scout and it’s still around somewhere . We had a lot of great times in it . That thing loved the snow in the poconos during blizzards . It has a plow attachment . If I can afford it I want one over the bronco now
The way that Electric only is struggling to make headway in the marketplace, the range extender approach will work well in the North American market-and perhaps elsewhere.
I can see a recommendation for another video on the Scout next to this one and it has 'Global Launch' emblazoned all over the thumbnail. It might therefore very well hit the European market also, although I doubt we will see it here in Japan.
I grew up with three '70s era scouts. Needless to say, I put down a deposit within about an hour of the press release. Wish they didn't reveal it so early though. 2027 is a long way away.
No gas engine?? European parent does not understand American off road market! As someone who off roads a lot in Colorado I NEVER see EV's off road. No gas mean that means mostly wealthy moms will buy this to look cool dropping their brats off at school. Will only sell in small numbers like Rivian. Too bad, great design.
I reserved one. Not sold on EVs, but wheeled with a Rivian and was impressed with its EV camping capabilities. An EV offroader with a generator seems like a good idea. For reference, I’m a locomotive engineer and my locomotives are EVs with diesel generators… about time a reputable manufacturer did this with an offroad vehicle.
Tesla didn't want to get into dealing with ICE engines, but apparently they designed the CT in a way that others could do so. Archimedes Defense is offering the STING Baja upfit package which includes a multi-fuel generator/extender that fits in the frunk and a mount for a spare tire on the back. Pure EVs have their place, but for the foreseeable future there is still a market for this sort of hybrid.
Both Scout Traveler and Terra are outstanding in execution and design. Reserved a Scout Terra last night. Thank you to VW for making this happen. I hope you are successful in keeping the Scout Motors vehicles out of VW dealerships. Setting up Scout Motors as a standalone entity may do that. I look forward to purchasing direct from manufacture.
Did he just say only 60k like that was a good thing. And people are losing touch with reality. It is crazy expensive right now to buy anything in life let alone a $60,000 vehicle
The SUV is straight up how I imagine the electric version of the Bronco would look like. I love the way it looks. We’ll see how this thing performs when it comes out but so far I love the design.
I’ll be impressed if they release a 50k version. I’m guessing 85 and it’ll be closer to 90 with the range extender. I know they’re claiming 50k but with the amount if money VW is losing in their current EVs there’s no way that’s happening.
@@Mr8Daddy The new bespoke factory and clean-sheet design should make it possible to build them cheaper than in a legacy plant not designed to build electric cars.
Single piece mega castings for frame? Cell to chassis manufacturing technique? If everything is ran through the touchscreen, that would simplify wiring; no fuses, relays, reduction of microcontroller, and wiring weight itself. The scout should simplistic, and these new manufacturing techniques should help it achieve that. I heard nothing in the actual Scout presentation on manufacturing to make sure that they will reach $60G. I'm not reassured as a plu in hybrid is the most expensive drivetrain and the least efficient as your lugging around 2 powertrains and will suffer weight penalty of them. This will have very little loading capacity. Don't get me wrong. I love the looks but VAG done a poor job executing on the EV side of the powertrain globally
Give me an ICE and/or PHEV version at 60k and I'm interested. If it turns out to be electric only and 100k, then I won't even look at it. But I'd love to see the Scout nameplate back on the highway again anyway. Fingers crossed.
This interior is really nice. I love the effort they put in there, it really shows. A+ Make an option for a third row even it’s 2 seats and this is a real winner at the price.
Wow how revolutionary. In just 2 years I can buy an ev truck with a generator attached. Let me guess, it's going to only be $50,000 despite the prices directly in front of us from every dealer in 2024! WHOA, MIND BLOWN
I love the look!! I’m definitely in for one of the gas/electric hybrids. I’ve always said that if they can get the gas hybrid (or diesel hybrid would be even better!) into a true off road SUV, I’d be all over it. My Grenadier Trialmaster is the absolute bomb of an off-road focused SUV (don’t let any of those “car reviewers” bullsh*t you about the steering. They’re comparing the Grenny to their dream mall crawler). But I would love to have a gas hybrid daily driver, no doubt!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Could have brought an affordable simple off roader true to original scout heritage, instead brings an overpriced EV that most Americans can’t afford, brilliant
@jonathonalsop2120 wow that's great news regarding finally adding a gas range extender! Hopefully Scout will have a camp mode to have the AC/heat on while car camping inside. Being able to use the EV battery as generator will also be very useful (V2L)
60K gets a really nicely equipped Bronco thats probably just as capable and because it was designed initially as an ICE vehicle it will work better for longer.
This is gonna be fire. If they maintain everything shown and keep the pricing. Nuts! My hometown is Springfield, Ohio where an IH heavy truck plant was and still is. I'm seriously gonna have to see about adding the Traveler to my garage. So many cues from the Scouts that ran around my town back in the day.
I absolutely love the design of these 2. They nailed it! -except for the electric motors. I really want a funky off roader like this and we’d be in the market for one of these in a couple years when we’re ready to trade in either our Grand Cherokee L or Ram 2500 but I have no interest in embracing electric vehicles. They have no soul. No spirit. I hope they’re successful though. It’s gonna be fun watching you guys review them.
I was lucky enough to purchase my dream vehicle...a 2019 toyota 4runner trd pro. I love the (mostly) reliability of the toyota brand and I have been wistfully dreaming of one day owning a landcruiser or gx500, but seeing this...I can confidently say...this new scout is the only thing I ever want in my life, ever.
I’m a truck driver and I delivered steel beams to Blytheville, SC to the Scout work site! I’m liking the design of this thing!
Did they come from Little Rock? I work for Lexicon and we are fabricating and erecting the structural steel at the plant now.
We appreciate it! 😊
There is no Blytheville SC. You LIE! @gabethebaeb_5881
Grab a few spy photos !!!
For everyone talking about dealer markups, they say on their site its gonna be direct buy, no dealership shenanigans to worry about.
The only way it should be
Still VW
@@81lordnelson At least it's not another Chinese brands
Can I test drive it until the warranty runs out? 😂
Like Tesla and Rivian, hopefully this is what future vehicle buying will be like. More uniform pricing for customers, and we don't have to educate the salespeople on the cars and trucks they are telling to sell us.
I am worried that the $60k Scout will be sold in the same dealership as the $40k Ford Lightning and the $39k Tesla Cybertruck. That dealership has a very bad reputation. 😃
cheeky and amusing!!!
Cyberurinals are a joke off pavement.
Based on the announcement and website, it looks like the Scout is going to be direct sale online
@chriswarren…. 😉
😂😂😂
As a former 1974 Scout II owner, I think they absolutley knocked it out of the park. My only concern is, they did not include the pre-rusted out rockers on the prototype. Hopefully the production version will come with holes per-drilled below the doors.
It’s coming from South Carolina so if they store them for a month in the coast line before shipping to customers then the salty air will do the job for free. 😃
Lol, truth
IH bought “slightly” rusted rolled steel to save money on body panel is the rumor I heard. Checks out on my two Scouts
LOL i had a 74 international pickup and it literally rusted away 😅 😂
I wish it had round lights. Rest is seeming pretty cool!
3 cups of Rivian, 1.5 cups of Bronco, and a splash of Hummer. Looks amazing! Love the price! Knocked it out of the park with design inside and out :-). The cabana style roof for the Traveler is a great choice!
Splash of newer Hyundai Tucson
You must not be familiar with the Scout II. This looks like an updated version of the Scout II, and not a compilation of other designs that took design cues from the Scout II.
60k, but for 2027.... So 60k in 2027? Or will it be the "Cybertruck for 40k" that turned into 80k?
And probably 60k for the base model they don't offer for another 3 years or ever.
Yes
And dealer markups over $100g otd
There’s no way this thing is under 100k.
Ok, 60K for a base. By 2027 that will be 65K for a base. Add options it will be 75K to 80K plus 5k to 10k dealer mark-up. 90k out the door? You might as well call it another overpriced Jeep.
I am currently drawing the mechanical and plumbing piping for the new plant
So, we’ve got some time then.
Where is it going to be built?
What are they going with for HVAC? Chilled water? DX? Heat pumps? VRF?
Fantastic. Some people at Volkswagen had the sense and the balls to do this right.
They must have been the same cool people from the Cayenne and Touareg design team 😎
VW is a huge corporation and has enough expertise and resource to design top vehicles from hypercar to van, truck, semi-truck, bus, even motorcycle.
Do it right? Not as an EV ....25 minutes to fill ur tank 😂😂😅😅😅😅
Yest struggling vs Chinese vehicles in China. Their tech the SDV, isn't there.
Way too early for that statement! Only time will tell if this a hit, or a miss…
No way it will start at 60k. I remember hearing Cybertrucks and Lightnings would start around 40k. What a joke that turned out to be. 🤣
Just wait and see. You never know.
the cyber truck tried and failed to reinvent everything at every point. it failed at being a truck, but all they invented in that truck, Tesla will use in other vehicles at a cheaper cost in the future if they can just stop being greedy.
Now most of what I'm hearing that is on the Scout sounds is tried and true hard core off road bits. Off the shelf stuff is cheap at scale and much more reliable. The connector parts between the axels and electric motor(s) are what would worry me. I still need to see more but i don't think this will be too far of the mark. VW cant fail again.
But seriously how do you go from 40K to $100k
@@sebs1478it's not Volkswagen
@@sebs1478 I wouldn't call VW reliable. Maybe older VW yes. New ones...hmmm.
Offer the Scout in both battery and petrol engines and see which one sells the most.
Never going to happen. It would expose TPTB for being flat out wrong. Those in power will not be embarrassed.
it looks like someone smushed together a bronco and a Rivian
That's because the original Bronco "borrowed heavily" from Scout. That's like saying Bentley looks like Genesis GV80.
My type of styling
“When have we seen a solid rear axle and mechanical lockers in a modern vehicle?”
The Bronco, obviously.
Nothing wrong with that.
@@ffl2609it does look like a Bentley though
im still waiting for my $39k ford lightning
😂😂😂
or 70k C8
Not a single Ford F-150 product with 4 doors is in the 30Ks. It was probably a plan then but today that’s not realistic ICE or EV.
You're going to be waiting a long time my friend 😢
I’m seeing flashes for $55k new right now
I have never reserved something so quickly. Finally a company that understands truck owners. I will never get a pure ev truck because I am limited to destinations with ev chargers. But now to have the ability to fill up on gas for remote locations and then for the 90% of the time I am within the city to simply charge an ev at home. Genius. Looking forward to my scout terra.
Did they give a break down on monthly payments?
@@killerb5305 nope. No word on final pricing yet.
Hybrids have been around for a while now
@@branflakee4257 I currently have a ford maverick hybrid. As fuel efficient as it is, it still consumes too much gas as a daily driver. With a scout coupled with the harvester the fuel savings will easily make up for the increased cost and I’ll still have a generator for all my off grid needs.
My dad had a 1967 International Harvester Scout pickup truck with a snow plow when he was in high school. He also had a 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner at the same time. I rather have it non electric and still made by International.
Very impressive! Hard buttons, quality interior materials, clean design, bidirectional charging... I'm seriously interested in this car when it becomes available.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Tommy more excited
I thought it was a bit over the top.
More annoying is more like it.
no im with him. There’s like 2 cool EVs and this is one of them
@@willb3018 boohoo
More annoying than his father. And his father’s pretty annoying.
Pretty cool in my book. Hats off to the designers for putting some thought into it.
Love the range extender, as a Chevy Volt owner having that gas backup fixed all the electric car issues, living in rural America. Love the idea of the Rav4 prime with the gas backup. I have the new 2022 Bronco and this might just be my next upgrade.
You realize that the gas backup engine never builds enough heat to burn off moisture or fuel that pools into the oil in the crankcase, right? Water boils off at 212 degrees and these hybrid gas/electric powertrains are an owners nightmare when it comes to costs of repairs since the engine oil never gets to 212F. The gasoline winds up in the oil due to the low tension piston rings they incorporate in the design as the engines never reach the temperature required to vaporize the fuel and send it into the intake to be burned via the PCV system.
@@strykerentllc Those problems can be engineered around, Toyota's hybrid engines are all very reliable, and there are hybrid specific oils that can tolerate more moisture.
@@DripDripDrip69 It's not the oil that's the issue. It's the metals the engine components are manufactured of which aren't exotic corrosion resistant alloys. Toyota's hybrid engines are expensive to maintain as are the batteries to replace. You own one that you can attest to or are you simply defending Toyota for the sake of doing so?
Example is the hybrid Camry battery life is 100K miles which can be as short as 4 years for commuters. The cost to maintain the hybrid's ICE is greater than any stand alone ICE powered vehicle, then there's the additional up front cost of the hybrid vehicle. It's not a panacea looking for a problem to cure. It's an answer to a problem that was manufactured by people that live in ivory towers and forced upon the serfs. Hope you do some digging yourself as good information is the best tool any consumer can have when making a vehicle purchase.
Chevy volts hybrid system is great. I’ve talked to multiple owners and they love theirs and haven’t had any problems. And it’s a pretty old range extended ev platform
@@strykerentllcI agree that many hybrid especially power split drivetrains suffering such problems but extended range phevs like classic example chevy volt does not have such problems because primary power is on electric and after battery drained than turning ICE and heat up quite quickly
gasoline version...now im interested! Factory direct...now im interested more. Im done dealing with bloated car dealerships where the sale members know nothing about trucks and off road suv"s
My dealership experience buying a Tesla was AMAZING! Will never buy a vehicle from a dealership again. EVER. Some effing dweeb telling me to wait while he talks to his manager. F that. NEVER again. Glad more manufacturers going that route. Really liking the Scout! Elon dropped the ball on the harvester option.
Home run! Didn't expect that! Great Scout revival. The interior is over the top.
The public will NEVER get that interior. It will come in bland grey or black like everything else when it hits the market. But that prototype looks cool!
I agree but look at the new Mazda CX70 interior
They’ll offer it like any option…$$$
True, but as long as it’s durable, it’ll fine by me
@@dustywheeler6641 Only on the 100K plus trim though. No way its going to be available in a base.
You can already get it in a rivian since this is a rebadged rivian.
love it!. I would 1000% guess now, starting will be $80K+ especially for what you just showed us.
I reserved my Terra Harvester to park next to my 1975 Scout II. I cannot wait! I’ve been part of the owner’s advisory group. They obviously listened to their customer base!
Never would have bought one of those old turds but I ordered two of these
Me too. The harvester would be a game changer.
I kinda wish they had a circular element to the headlight as a throwback to the original. Maybe aftermarket will come up with something cool for that.
The range extender is awesome and will be what makes this vehicle epic. Every SUV and truck should have that as an option.
Great review, Tommy! Styling is very reminiscent of the Scout II of the '70's and I do like it, but I am finding it a little too "gadgety" and "luxury". I had a 1970 that I wish I still had. Those are great trucks.
I appreciate the locking diffs, straight rear axle, 35's but I wish they'd offer a straight mechanical ICE for those of us who just are not interested in Ev's or Hybrids.
This is smart. The ICE extender takes away the range anxiety. When I originally heard all electric, I was bummed. Somebody is thinking.
No it doesn't. You get more range but you will still have to sit for a half an hour or more at a charger.
Then you'll need to fill up the range extender tank.
Range anxiety? This is going to have a NACS port, so presumably access to Tesla's network, and even more charging stations will be built by the time it hits the streets. Range anxiety should be a rapidly fading concept by then. (As it already is for Tesla owners.) I can see the hybrid version being useful for some folks, if they do a lot of towing or if they live in Wyoming maybe, but that's a niche. I predict most won't bother with it.
If you have a range extender, all you have to do is refill the fuel tank and keep on keepin’ on. If you have a range extender and available gasoline, you’re not going to have to sit at a charger if you don’t want to.
@@Zobeid - Agree, had range anxiety for only the first month of owning a Tesla. Still have anxiety about getting a flat tire.
@@Zobeid Instead you'll just be stuck in a 4 hour long line to charge your car like they are already doing in SF and LA 😆
My grandfather was an International dealer in the 50-80's, so I'm very familiar with the Scout line, and have tested it in some very offroad terrain. It was hard to beat, and I have always loved the look of the Scouts (orange paint with the white center line racing strip was a favorite, or the pickup version my Dad had for a while). This makes me so happy, and brings me back to my childhood, thank you Scout...
Don't you mean "Thank you VW?"
The old Scouts had the International engine, not the trash EV VW is making
Same, my gramps owned an IH dealer too. Lots of International trucks and Scouts. Four of them still sitting at the farm, including the one I learned to drive.
they were pieces of crap, worst quality and reliability ever...JUNK.
@@chadhaire1711 you're a bedwetter!
They absolutely nailed it! So stoked for the revival and the optional gas range extended and proper mechanical lockers!
True story... I grew up in a cult that started in the San Francisco Bay area but the leader/pastor had a 'vision' that we all needed to buy a Scout II and move to the Sierra Neveda Mountians. So, I learned to drive in a Scout II until I smashed the transfer case on a rock wheeling it in the woods and my parents took it away. Great vehicle, weird cultly memories around it though.
Towing capacity, off road capability, truly made in the US, and it's so good looking! This is going to be a game changer. I do wish there was an all gas version. I'm quite nervous about electric vehicles and LOVE the rumble of gas (in most sizes). I've been underwhelmed with Jeep and Stelantis with everything that's going down over there and the Bronco is underwhelming with towing capacity, price, and size. This could be the solution!
i had a '73 Travelall in the 90's when i was in college, it was the best party wagon on earth! i am def gettin one of these!!
My dad had a '73 Travelall when I was in high school. Ours even had ABS, the first time I ever saw ABS in a vehicle. Sadly we sold it cheap when he passed in '84 when anything with a V8 was pretty much worthless because of the gas crisis.
These will be $80k+ when released
Well they aren’t for the poors
I owned three Scouts at different times over the years. I loved each of them. They were great, off road. On pavement, they were OK. I'm really liking what I'm seeing and hearing so far. My current ride is a 2018 4Runner Off Road Premium and over all, it's my favorite 4X4 that I've owned. I'll be watching the actual launch of the new Scout with great interest. Thanks, Tommy, for the great video.
PSA: “eXpecially” has never been a word 😂
It sounds like you’re being a little too “pacific” when talking about grammar. I’m gonna have to 🪓 you to calm down, sir. 🤣👌🏻
"I want to believe". If they can bring the range extender version to market for a five figure sticker and it actually works well, this could be the first primarily electric car that actually interests me. Good luck, Scout.
It looks perfect!!! Glad they wised up and will have a hybrid...
unfortunately range extenders aren't true hybrid
If it's a true hybrid, sure...but this is VW we're talking about and they've bet the farm on EV's...and it currently looks like the farm is going to be in foreclosure soon.
@@berzerkerseamus2955 REVs are sick. What's your issue with them?
@@berzerkerseamus2955 Edison Motors is doing Semi Truck and 3/4 ton retrofits as Electric with onboard generator. The Generator is your onboard charging station. Works for Locomotives and ships just fine. If Scout uses a range extender (generator), then off road trips become much more piratical as no charging station needed. I bet you could use the generator at camp for power.
I will buy one if they just make a nice simple full gas engine version without all the battery crap…
I bet it is $80k for specs as shown. It looks great. I am all in!😊
Before dealer markups.
Yeah plus “market adjustment” for $100k +
@@SalvadorAndradeHN It's direct to consumer sales. No mark ups.
@@jaekimchi If only people understood the shortcomings of the gasoline engine in these hybrid systems... FLC is never going to tell the public any vehicle they review is rubbish. If they did, they'd be blackballed by the manufacturers and would be forced to find a new line of yootoob work.
@@strykerentllc This is actually the best way to do a fuel-based range extender. It's just a gas generator that will charge the battery while you drive. If they do it right, it should be the most efficient way to do a "hybrid", but it'll probably be a very expensive addon. Only time will tell.
I hope it’s as good as they want it to be. Loved the real scout. Would much rather see these on the road than the cybertruck
Scouts have been a part of my life from day one. Had to sell my fully restored 800 to fund my business. Ima bust my a$$ working toward getting one of these when they come out. Can’t wait! It’ll fit in the quiver nicely along side a blown 5.7 Tundra.
This may be my first actual new car. It's everything I wanted in terms of looks and the gas range extender is the only way I'd feel comfortable buying an EV. I'm very interested!!!
Kudos to the new Scout! Very reminiscent in design to the original IH binders. Love the front bench seat and split tailgate. Reminds me of my first car, a 1980 Scout II. Well done!
Launched underneath VW? 🤯🤯🤯 thanks for the explanation. This is wild! 1:15
The coolest car VW makes doesnt even wear a VW badge
VW doesn't make these. Scout will, in South Carolina
@@arcostonian I'm sorry that either sarcasm or VW's recent cost cutting is beyond your comprehension. RIP
The bus is pretty cool
@freddybell8328 The outside is really cool. The inside has their signature cost cutting measures maxed out.
@@freddybell8328That bus is gayer than my generation and im gen z
This is how you make an EV. Traditional and non-offensive, plus it has the range extender. I think we should model future cars on diesel electric trains. The electric motors propel the vehicle while the diesel engine acts as a generator to power the electric motors. In the case of the Scout its a little different. You charge the battery like a normal EV but if you're out in the bush and you start to run low on charge the ICE engine will fire up to keep you going. I think for heavy duty vehicles such as semi trucks we should go the full train style diesel electric route. That way you don't have to lug around a 5 ton battery just to get 500 miles of range (which is less than half that of conventional diesel trucks). Edison motors has built a working truck with that layout and its great.
The Design interior & exterior looks fantastic. Good that Volkswagen is listening to the consumer and are getting those Chrysler designers to actually build products at a price point, consumers are asking for. Congratulations!
I like it with a 5.0 and 10A and one small 12V battery for $45,000
Nah needs a minimum of like 40kwh battery to send massive amount of power to the Two Motors.
I love it. Large electric only vehicles designed to do any semblance of work make no sense at all at this time. Having a generator on board with a smaller battery bank is where the industry should have been pushing all along...better performance, better range, and better for the environment...added bonus is you now own a generator and battery backup system for your home (provided Scout is smart enough to ensure owners can harness all the power the onboard generator creates). This thing is gorgeous.
In other words a "Hybrid", which is where Ford, Toyota, and many other OEM's have refocused their attention (i.e. away from pure EV's) based on what their customers are willing to buy.
@@Mike-In-O-Town I guess you could call it a hybrid...though it is very different from any current hybrids on the market that I know of. What I'm describing (and what Edison Motors, the Ramcharger, and now Scout are doing) is a completely electric powertrain with no transmission or transfer case connected to the combustion engine. The generator motor can be much smaller and more efficient because it is designed/sized only to charge the batteries and doesn't need to move the vehicle or have a high rev range to work with transmission gearing.
This was not on my bingo card for 2024 but they have my attention
I had a Scout I RHD Postal Vehicle. I brought it to Austrailia to use, had a heck of a time importing it, til they realized I had a Diplomatic Passport. I really loved that thing.
Absolutely beautiful. I cannot wait to get the Traveler. This looks so much better than the Rivian R1S. The Scout Traveler looks like a real off road SUV. Capable of having real off road tires, real ground clearance and the proportions on this thing are flawless unlike the Rivian R1S which has a huge butt and polished chrome everywhere trying to look like a mercedes or something. Totally legit.
The coolest thing about the old International Scout was that the whole roof would come off like a Jeep Wrangler. They should have done that. I do like this better than any of the other battery powered electric "trucks" or "off road vehicles" it will compete against. Guaranteed the final price won't be $60K. Glad they're making it in the USA.
I’m gonna be honest, i’m sick of offroad vehicles (especially jeeps) that have the same highway sound deadening as an empty tuna can because of its removable everything
A reliable 6 cylinder and this will be awesome!
They absolutely nailed it! Looks extremely functional as well as comfortable, 6 seat hybrid with solid axle and body on frame gives a glimmer of hope to the world
As for the design, they done a fantastic job with a updated look to the old scouts. Drivetrain choices and body on frame once again outstanding. Was absolutely interested until I found out it was hybrid or electric. Should have a gas or diesel version while keeping the hybrid versions. Some people in the market want nothing to do with electric vehicles. These would sell like crazy if the gas and diesel versions were available. Especially since jeep is doing it's best to kill itself. Being made in the US is great as well. Sorry, hard pass from me unless a ICE version only is available.
Wish it had the circular lights like the OG Scout. Toyota did it right with the Land Cruiser's option.
I hope the naysayers are eating their words now! Scout nailed it! Sooooo exciting
Nope. The naysayers are now claiming the price is a lie and it will be over $100k. Or claiming the range extender will make it more complex and break down constantly.
It looks amazing, but I think everyone (positive and negative) needs to be realistic and admit nothing matters until production units actually hit the market so we can see true price, interior, features, trim levels. I'm very interested in this SUV, but prototypes don't matter.
It needs to be offered in six different shades of brown to fulfill its legacy.
That looks like Ford Bronco 🛻
That's awesome! Body on frame and made in the USA! It looks like a modern-day Scout. That would be cool to drive. The 70s flare is there. I'd have that for a weekend getaway. And keep my 2022 Ford Ranger XLT as my daily. They did good on the Scout! 🤘🏼
Always love comments like this. They haven't built a single production version yet and you're already saluting it as a resounding success. My bet, if it even makes it to market (which I have huge doubts) it will sell for close to $100k which will guarantee its failure given how small a market that price will guarantee.
@Mike-In-O-Town always love comments like this. That one dude knows it all already 🤣. So what i like it. Didn't know that was a problem king. That's why they put videos out like this for feedback. And yeah it's gonna start high Duh living in the world we live in. Are you surprised 😲. But it's actually not 100k. Try half that. So yeah this will work and sell great. People are aloud to comment and think what they want. That's that.
I'll stick with the '70s flare of the G wagon.
@@Mike-In-O-Town When you consider how cheap the USD has become why would you want this vehicle to be $60k? That would just assure cheap materials and probably worse.
@@MatthewC137 Personally, this vehicle in its current form is of no interest to me regardless what it costs. If they wanna be true to Scout and IH, give the thing a IC motor, and make it a simple one.
My grandfather had a scout and it’s still around somewhere . We had a lot of great times in it . That thing loved the snow in the poconos during blizzards . It has a plow attachment . If I can afford it I want one over the bronco now
The way that Electric only is struggling to make headway in the marketplace, the range extender approach will work well in the North American market-and perhaps elsewhere.
Love it but 60 grand will make it available for only a certain demographic.
Aren't most gas trucks, SUVs now a days in that range? EV ones are a lot more.than 60k
Wish there was an ice variant with at least a V6
Very nice, I hope they both come to Germany too.
I can see a recommendation for another video on the Scout next to this one and it has 'Global Launch' emblazoned all over the thumbnail. It might therefore very well hit the European market also, although I doubt we will see it here in Japan.
I grew up with three '70s era scouts. Needless to say, I put down a deposit within about an hour of the press release. Wish they didn't reveal it so early though. 2027 is a long way away.
No gas engine?? European parent does not understand American off road market! As someone who off roads a lot in Colorado I NEVER see EV's off road. No gas mean that means mostly wealthy moms will buy this to look cool dropping their brats off at school. Will only sell in small numbers like Rivian. Too bad, great design.
Really cool and off road focused but is no one else seeing a Rivian R1T/S?
With the investment VW has in Rivian, I wonder if there is parts sharing going on?
it literally looks like they mashed bronco and a rivian together
I had the same thought, especially with the truck
Or does a Rivian look like a Scout, considering these look a lot like the final International Scouts from the early 1980s?
I see it!
It's the Bronco Rivian
For a reason. VW has deals with both those companies -sharing tech and parts. Ford Semi-trailer trucks in EU are actually VW for example.
Yep. Their UI will be delivered by Rivian. Which is great.
I reserved one. Not sold on EVs, but wheeled with a Rivian and was impressed with its EV camping capabilities. An EV offroader with a generator seems like a good idea. For reference, I’m a locomotive engineer and my locomotives are EVs with diesel generators… about time a reputable manufacturer did this with an offroad vehicle.
Tesla didn't want to get into dealing with ICE engines, but apparently they designed the CT in a way that others could do so. Archimedes Defense is offering the STING Baja upfit package which includes a multi-fuel generator/extender that fits in the frunk and a mount for a spare tire on the back.
Pure EVs have their place, but for the foreseeable future there is still a market for this sort of hybrid.
Both Scout Traveler and Terra are outstanding in execution and design. Reserved a Scout Terra last night. Thank you to VW for making this happen. I hope you are successful in keeping the Scout Motors vehicles out of VW dealerships. Setting up Scout Motors as a standalone entity may do that. I look forward to purchasing direct from manufacture.
Nice... Love to see it... With I.C.E. under the hood. It's got great features... Congrats.
100 better looking than the cartoonish Pixar Rivians & 1,000,000 better than anything Tesla shits out
Rivian and Bronco had a baby 😆
Did he just say only 60k like that was a good thing. And people are losing touch with reality. It is crazy expensive right now to buy anything in life let alone a $60,000 vehicle
I'm starting to believe TFL in all versions have become shills for the auto industry.
@@cmiles97x38 Ditto
i like how the interior of the Traveller is not just a regurgitation of the Terra, but is distinct
The SUV is straight up how I imagine the electric version of the Bronco would look like. I love the way it looks. We’ll see how this thing performs when it comes out but so far I love the design.
This is such a badass off roader. hopefully they can release a $35-40k trim version
I’ll be impressed if they release a 50k version. I’m guessing 85 and it’ll be closer to 90 with the range extender. I know they’re claiming 50k but with the amount if money VW is losing in their current EVs there’s no way that’s happening.
@@Mr8Daddy The new bespoke factory and clean-sheet design should make it possible to build them cheaper than in a legacy plant not designed to build electric cars.
Won't happen for less than 50k in this age.
Single piece mega castings for frame? Cell to chassis manufacturing technique? If everything is ran through the touchscreen, that would simplify wiring; no fuses, relays, reduction of microcontroller, and wiring weight itself. The scout should simplistic, and these new manufacturing techniques should help it achieve that. I heard nothing in the actual Scout presentation on manufacturing to make sure that they will reach $60G. I'm not reassured as a plu in hybrid is the most expensive drivetrain and the least efficient as your lugging around 2 powertrains and will suffer weight penalty of them. This will have very little loading capacity. Don't get me wrong. I love the looks but VAG done a poor job executing on the EV side of the powertrain globally
Definitely good looking, but no only ICE im not interested.
Give me an ICE and/or PHEV version at 60k and I'm interested. If it turns out to be electric only and 100k, then I won't even look at it. But I'd love to see the Scout nameplate back on the highway again anyway. Fingers crossed.
Yep - EV is doa.
The gas range extender version is essentially a PHEV. Now wether it will reamin 60k is to be seen...
This interior is really nice. I love the effort they put in there, it really shows. A+ Make an option for a third row even it’s 2 seats and this is a real winner at the price.
Wow how revolutionary. In just 2 years I can buy an ev truck with a generator attached. Let me guess, it's going to only be $50,000 despite the prices directly in front of us from every dealer in 2024! WHOA, MIND BLOWN
The frunk has cup holders? The frunk has cup holders!!
I would love to purchase a gasoline powered Scout.
EV means it’s DOA
Looks really great. Love the interior. Hope they bulk up the tie rods! Rivians and Broncos have terrible problems with broken and bent tie rods.
I love the look!! I’m definitely in for one of the gas/electric hybrids. I’ve always said that if they can get the gas hybrid (or diesel hybrid would be even better!) into a true off road SUV, I’d be all over it. My Grenadier Trialmaster is the absolute bomb of an off-road focused SUV (don’t let any of those “car reviewers” bullsh*t you about the steering. They’re comparing the Grenny to their dream mall crawler). But I would love to have a gas hybrid daily driver, no doubt!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Yeah i like the style but im not taking an ev offroad
I'd liketo know what ICE option(s) we'll get.
@@LMach1 I don’t think they are planning on an entirely ICE option. Just a little get home motor for when your battery runs out.
@@gew1898 ah. I see. Thanks for the info.
Could have brought an affordable simple off roader true to original scout heritage, instead brings an overpriced EV that most Americans can’t afford, brilliant
My wife just pre ordered one. She wanted a ln electric bronco and this comes along even better. Looks amazing.
My dad has two scout ii i grew up working on them. I’m not going to lie it looks pretty good.
Scout really needs:
1. At least 300 mile range
2. Vehicle 2 Load
3. Camp Mode🎉🎉
....until you try to tow something. Then the range will be 40-50 miles. You couldn't even tow with this thing to the next town from here.
@@broeheemed32 The EV range is 350miles and the gas generator range extender is 500miles. Towing doesn't sound like it will be an issue.
@jonathonalsop2120 wow that's great news regarding finally adding a gas range extender! Hopefully Scout will have a camp mode to have the AC/heat on while car camping inside. Being able to use the EV battery as generator will also be very useful (V2L)
And a V8 option!
@KevinDavis-pi5zt 😅 I'm guessing bronco raptor or defender v8!🎉🎉
If it ran on liquid dinosaur. That would be awesome.
60K gets a really nicely equipped Bronco thats probably just as capable and because it was designed initially as an ICE vehicle it will work better for longer.
Yeah the Ford EcoBoom engines are really known for long term reliability without major repairs 😂
@andrewm2002 I've got a 2.0 with 260K + and has never had anything other than a couple sets of plugs, and one set of coils and wires.
My fifth gen 4Runner has the locker controls “up top”What a new concept. 😂
This is gonna be fire. If they maintain everything shown and keep the pricing. Nuts! My hometown is Springfield, Ohio where an IH heavy truck plant was and still is. I'm seriously gonna have to see about adding the Traveler to my garage. So many cues from the Scouts that ran around my town back in the day.
Hey Volkswagen. Well done. This is badass.
It's nothing German
@@imrytebeehyneuall under German supervision. Good for everyone 👌🏼
@@rustyjames8138 so you're saying that America can't built cars for sh!t?
That would be sweet with the GM 3.0 diesel
I absolutely love the design of these 2. They nailed it! -except for the electric motors. I really want a funky off roader like this and we’d be in the market for one of these in a couple years when we’re ready to trade in either our Grand Cherokee L or Ram 2500 but I have no interest in embracing electric vehicles. They have no soul. No spirit.
I hope they’re successful though. It’s gonna be fun watching you guys review them.
Ohh, but the torque.
Trust me drive an EV for a few days.
I was lucky enough to purchase my dream vehicle...a 2019 toyota 4runner trd pro. I love the (mostly) reliability of the toyota brand and I have been wistfully dreaming of one day owning a landcruiser or gx500, but seeing this...I can confidently say...this new scout is the only thing I ever want in my life, ever.
If this really sticks to those numbers it is going to be a game changer! This is the first EV that I would totally consider as a real contender.