this is why you gather the proof into a form where you have it and can show it also ppl really have to start recording conversations when confronting cheaters and manipulators. Biggest common mistake
@@jdavis7613 Lets be honest, that sentiment only really APPLIES to the "gentleman" part of that statement. The "ladies" are ultimately believed in court, absent of evidence, due to cultural biases and bigotry against men. Family and Divorce Court statistics don't lie.
The rule is clear boys, over reacting on a simple question should immediately raise suspicions on you. Who is owning nothing has nothing to fear, my mum says
That's what a logical person would do. But I have seen people look down at adoption as they don't consider it true parenthood. Some woman will even talk down to woman that needed a c-section and say they aren't true moms as they didn't birth their child. Some peoples minds works in weird ways that I will never understand.
I don't really track what the connection between those two things are. They even said it was nothing wrong with him in the story, so it's not like it was something wrong with him that was the issue.
@@Freelancer837 He said that his wife questioned if something was wrong with his sperm even though the doctor had told him it was normal. So it does sound like she might put the blame on him either for real or as an excuse. But even if you really think your husband is the problem a normal person would go for adoption, IVF or a spermdonor instead off cheating.
Ok that’s kinda a low blow. It doesn’t seem like she was cheating before the 3 MISCARRIAGES. It was most likely a trauma response. By no means was it a good response and she’s a horrible person for cheating, but saying that she deserved it before she even did anything wrong seems harsh.
@@foxenbox I don't recall saying that she deserves the misscarriages, but based on the op's description of her, she seems way too immature to be a mother because not only did she want to have children for her own convenience, but she also invested all of her emotions into believing that she would eventually give birth, but once she was confronted with the harsh truth, instead of working for a solution along with her husband she deluded herself into thinking that if another man impregnated her, things would work out. Considering all of that, her misscarriage is not that bad of an outcome, i would also like to express my respect towards the misscarried babies for acting responsibly despite not having been born.
Story 1: Honestly OP in story 1 is a lot more patient than he realizes. I would’ve been just as low and petty with the insults. Saying “at least I get to keep the house your poor ass has to be bought out” or “let’s hope Mr. Perfect can get you a house nearly as nice” or “I wonder how long it’ll be before you run him off too”. All those insults are just from a place of anger she’s not in control anymore and it’s pissing her off. 😂 Also he needs to start recording these little mood shifts in case she tries to play slick in court and claim OP is being
This is why you need to have proof in case this happens now for cheating it’s understandable if it’s for payback but to then claim abuse to your partner is just messed up
This is why false accusers need to be held to the same account as someone who actually did the crime. If the guy was was going to get 20 years the false accuser gets 25 years.
@@eaglewarrior7979 higher standard. The false allegations should be treated as contempt of court plus the crime in question. meaning bare minimum life sentences for lying to the court.
Agreed cheaters are infamous for denying and gaslighting partners. If you're a man you use this as leverage to get a fair divorce. If a woman can get away with it she will look to financially destroy you in court, if for nothing else that it will prevent you from moving on to another woman and keep you as a backup option if your stupid enough to fall for it later.
I don't understand why people feel guilty about check their partner's phone etc when they suspect their spouse of cheating. Yes, people deserve privacy, but if you're in a relationship, there needs to be a level of openness. If a spouse has good reasons to suspect something's wrong, I think it's fine to briefly check. You shouldn't be spying on them 24/7, but taking a look to make sure nothing is going on shouldn't be taboo. I hate it how someone finds obvious evidence of cheating and they're like "How dare you look at my phone!". As if THAT'S the problem.
Liars often use gaslighting and emotional manipulation, even on a societal scale, to excuse their actions and hide their behaviors. Keep in mind that when you hear people defending cheaters or their "privacy" that they're probably just cheaters too, or at least have it in their minds that they might do it, so they defend others who do.
I really hope in story two that was the only time she cheated. Because i wouldn't be surprised that all those miscarriages were actually Greg's babies. Her comment about greg being a surrogate makes the scenario a possibility
Not to be cruel but when the baby if fully formed enough for you to suffer a miscarriage, let alone multiple miscarriages, the issue isn't with the man's gear. Poor sperm quality doesn't cause that. Hope the guy in story 2 manages to heal from all this and have the family he's wanted with a decent woman.
For me this really sounds like they should investigate if she has factor 5 leiden, a clotting disorder in wich the hetrozygous form is present in 3-8% off the population. It increases the risks off miscarriage but a lot off times people don't get tested for factor 5 leiden, a lot off doctors don't even seem to know that it exists. Most hetrozygous people never find out they have it, you only really discover it if you or a family member is unlucky enough to get multiple blood clotts.
Okay in story 2 is there some reason why Greg's sperm increased the likelihood of the baby surviving? It sounds like she had a total of 4 miscarriages which sounds absolutely awful and something i wouldnt wish on anyone. But they were capable of getting pregnant in the first place in their relationship. So there shouldn't have been a reason to need a "surrogate" who was a male...
A good rule of thumb when you're in a marriage is that if you have mutual friends or friends that you met while you were married you just need to write those people off because they are always going to side with the wife no matter what and from what it sounds like in story one just you looking at her the wrong way she can turn it into an allegation so you need to just write those people off and move on maybe move to another town or another city
Second story is an obvious creative writing exercise. While it has all the "elements" of a classic cheating story, a lot of the stuff just isn't quite in the right order - the same way an AI picture gives someone three hands with 6 fingers.
You know what's the funny reality about cheaters they destroy good people for a fling who has no guarantee that they're going to leave their family for them just to start fresh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The best way to get revenge on a cheater is to let Karma take over the work cuz one thing people fail to understand about Karma karma is one of the most patient is gangsters in the world
I don't understand why people make it sound like it's bad to look or ask to go through your partner's phones like if you doing good then they wouldn't want to look through it and if there's nothing there then there shouldn't be a problem.
One thing I can never understand what's the point of getting married if somebody bound to step out of the damn marriage like how the hell can you swore an oath to God and still cheat
@@Lp-army1 the dude in the first story repeated the same shit over and over again, he was somehow not perfect but also this great amazing and wonder husband at the same time while giving the advice he got from reddit back to them like he's a great guru. I watched the whole video you jackass
@@Lp-army1 I watched the whole video smart@$$, he repeated the same things over and over again, he repeated the advice he got from r/relationshipadvice to the subreddit like he came up with it, he went on and on about how he both wasn't perfect and also this great, amazing and wonderful husband he was.
@@Lp-army1 I watched the whole video, I listened to him repeated the same things over and over again while going on about how he wasn't perfect but was also this great, amazing and wonderful husband.
And what kills me I'm not trying to say is mostly men on these stories but the stuff of women do to cover their tracks on these stories like how can you straight up lie on somebody it's weird
This is really wordy and long and reads like a chapter out of a book. Like halfway thru the video the guy goes on a tangent about relationships in general and his update is all him reminiscing of the past with his ex. Why? What’s the point?
The grey rock method is where you deliberately act unresponsive or unengaged so that an abusive person will lose interest in you. Abusive people thrive on emotions and drama. When you act indifferent and don't show your emotions, they may lose interest and stop bothering you. This is known as “grey rocking.”
Story 2, its really just OP'S fault here, if you are friends with bastards that would sleep with your wife, then you get whats coming for you, its really your own doing.
Like this is a joke but imagine how miserable you have to be with your life that you have to attack random strangers on the internet for a simple comment that wasn't really harming anyone😦💀
@@iamjustagirlintheworldd how would you feel if I showed off the fact that on Xbox 360, I was the top 3rd shotgun user in battlefield 4? Its bragging rights crap no one cares about
this is why you gather the proof into a form where you have it and can show it also ppl really have to start recording conversations when confronting cheaters and manipulators. Biggest common mistake
The minute she used the ab.use excuse, record everything.
Record those conversations and confrontations to protect yourself ladies and gentlemen.
@@jdavis7613 Lets be honest, that sentiment only really APPLIES to the "gentleman" part of that statement.
The "ladies" are ultimately believed in court, absent of evidence, due to cultural biases and bigotry against men.
Family and Divorce Court statistics don't lie.
The rule is clear boys, over reacting on a simple question should immediately raise suspicions on you. Who is owning nothing has nothing to fear, my mum says
Me, who smiles on reflex when someone puts their eyes on me in the middle of their witch hunt and im innocent: Im in danger 🙃
With "friends" like Greg, who needs enemies?
Everyone needs a break once and a while.
Second story is fake anyway
Story 2:
Adoption: he-he-hell naw
Cheating: lesss go
That's what a logical person would do.
But I have seen people look down at adoption as they don't consider it true parenthood. Some woman will even talk down to woman that needed a c-section and say they aren't true moms as they didn't birth their child. Some peoples minds works in weird ways that I will never understand.
@@AVDB95 also cheaters aren't very logical
@@Lp-army1 True, maybe she was just looking at an excuse to justify her behavior in her own eyes.
I don't really track what the connection between those two things are. They even said it was nothing wrong with him in the story, so it's not like it was something wrong with him that was the issue.
@@Freelancer837 He said that his wife questioned if something was wrong with his sperm even though the doctor had told him it was normal.
So it does sound like she might put the blame on him either for real or as an excuse. But even if you really think your husband is the problem a normal person would go for adoption, IVF or a spermdonor instead off cheating.
Story 5%. The random thoughts 95%.
Story 2 : the (wife) is so much of a red flag that the unborn kids chose not to come out.
DAMNNN!!!!!!!
💀💀💀💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ok that’s kinda a low blow. It doesn’t seem like she was cheating before the 3 MISCARRIAGES. It was most likely a trauma response. By no means was it a good response and she’s a horrible person for cheating, but saying that she deserved it before she even did anything wrong seems harsh.
Might be more of the blood types didn't match (+/-, the baby could be O while she was a,b,ab)
@@foxenbox I don't recall saying that she deserves the misscarriages, but based on the op's description of her, she seems way too immature to be a mother because not only did she want to have children for her own convenience, but she also invested all of her emotions into believing that she would eventually give birth, but once she was confronted with the harsh truth, instead of working for a solution along with her husband she deluded herself into thinking that if another man impregnated her, things would work out.
Considering all of that, her misscarriage is not that bad of an outcome, i would also like to express my respect towards the misscarried babies for acting responsibly despite not having been born.
Story 1: Honestly OP in story 1 is a lot more patient than he realizes. I would’ve been just as low and petty with the insults. Saying “at least I get to keep the house your poor ass has to be bought out” or “let’s hope Mr. Perfect can get you a house nearly as nice” or “I wonder how long it’ll be before you run him off too”. All those insults are just from a place of anger she’s not in control anymore and it’s pissing her off. 😂 Also he needs to start recording these little mood shifts in case she tries to play slick in court and claim OP is being
Confidence of the OP in the first minutes tho>>>>>>
This is why you need to have proof in case this happens now for cheating it’s understandable if it’s for payback but to then claim abuse to your partner is just messed up
This is why false accusers need to be held to the same account as someone who actually did the crime. If the guy was was going to get 20 years the false accuser gets 25 years.
Exactly because this hurts the people who were actually victims of abuse
@@eaglewarrior7979I would say the false accusers should be made to serve DOUBLE the sentence
@@eaglewarrior7979 higher standard. The false allegations should be treated as contempt of court plus the crime in question. meaning bare minimum life sentences for lying to the court.
Agreed cheaters are infamous for denying and gaslighting partners. If you're a man you use this as leverage to get a fair divorce. If a woman can get away with it she will look to financially destroy you in court, if for nothing else that it will prevent you from moving on to another woman and keep you as a backup option if your stupid enough to fall for it later.
I don't understand why people feel guilty about check their partner's phone etc when they suspect their spouse of cheating. Yes, people deserve privacy, but if you're in a relationship, there needs to be a level of openness. If a spouse has good reasons to suspect something's wrong, I think it's fine to briefly check. You shouldn't be spying on them 24/7, but taking a look to make sure nothing is going on shouldn't be taboo. I hate it how someone finds obvious evidence of cheating and they're like "How dare you look at my phone!". As if THAT'S the problem.
Liars often use gaslighting and emotional manipulation, even on a societal scale, to excuse their actions and hide their behaviors.
Keep in mind that when you hear people defending cheaters or their "privacy" that they're probably just cheaters too, or at least have it in their minds that they might do it, so they defend others who do.
Privacy is a privilege within a relationship, should be there but once trust is broken privacy is taken away
I really hope in story two that was the only time she cheated. Because i wouldn't be surprised that all those miscarriages were actually Greg's babies.
Her comment about greg being a surrogate makes the scenario a possibility
Story 2: yeah not how you seek a surrogate. And since she kept rejecting her husband, would she claim it was a divine miracle?
Not to be cruel but when the baby if fully formed enough for you to suffer a miscarriage, let alone multiple miscarriages, the issue isn't with the man's gear. Poor sperm quality doesn't cause that. Hope the guy in story 2 manages to heal from all this and have the family he's wanted with a decent woman.
For me this really sounds like they should investigate if she has factor 5 leiden, a clotting disorder in wich the hetrozygous form is present in 3-8% off the population. It increases the risks off miscarriage but a lot off times people don't get tested for factor 5 leiden, a lot off doctors don't even seem to know that it exists. Most hetrozygous people never find out they have it, you only really discover it if you or a family member is unlucky enough to get multiple blood clotts.
Story 2: every time he says "Greg" all I hear is "Old Greg".
Story 2: When the food stays cold the oven is broken not the food.
Okay in story 2 is there some reason why Greg's sperm increased the likelihood of the baby surviving? It sounds like she had a total of 4 miscarriages which sounds absolutely awful and something i wouldnt wish on anyone. But they were capable of getting pregnant in the first place in their relationship. So there shouldn't have been a reason to need a "surrogate" who was a male...
cheaters avoid accountability to the extent that they just assume OP was the problem without thinking it through or getting checked
She wanted you to blow up infront of her friends to have witnesses to give creedence to her lies.
my ex was a cheater & OMG he would try to pick fights w/me but it never worked because I answered every question w/ok LOL
Excessively conscientious people apparently have a hard time grasping that some people effectively have no conscience at all.
A good rule of thumb when you're in a marriage is that if you have mutual friends or friends that you met while you were married you just need to write those people off because they are always going to side with the wife no matter what and from what it sounds like in story one just you looking at her the wrong way she can turn it into an allegation so you need to just write those people off and move on maybe move to another town or another city
2nd story really pissed me off
Never trust a guy named greg. Listen to the sound of that name, it's the most unreliable dude ever.
Second story is an obvious creative writing exercise. While it has all the "elements" of a classic cheating story, a lot of the stuff just isn't quite in the right order - the same way an AI picture gives someone three hands with 6 fingers.
men, must also record all 304 wives for your own protection
You know what's the funny reality about cheaters they destroy good people for a fling who has no guarantee that they're going to leave their family for them just to start fresh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
beautifully handled
Go through a lawyer and either leave or make her leave, she can't accuse you of anything if you're not together
Anyone know why these YT reddit story channels never include a link to the original post?
The 2nd story was God watching over OP.
The best way to get revenge on a cheater is to let Karma take over the work cuz one thing people fail to understand about Karma karma is one of the most patient is gangsters in the world
Never marry. It saves so much trouble.
I don't understand why people make it sound like it's bad to look or ask to go through your partner's phones like if you doing good then they wouldn't want to look through it and if there's nothing there then there shouldn't be a problem.
In story 2 Why the hell did she think that the problem was op?
One thing I can never understand what's the point of getting married if somebody bound to step out of the damn marriage like how the hell can you swore an oath to God and still cheat
Wait, doesn't "surrogate" mean you put an already fertilized egg into another woman?
Jesus this guy just goes on and on about NOTHING. How many times can you say the same thing?
Bro speaks yapanese in story 1
If you're watching a story expecting a short one, you're mistaken. If your attention span is that f#cked up, go scroll on shorts
I thought you wanted to say Japanese and I was like- "huh?"💀
@@Lp-army1 the dude in the first story repeated the same shit over and over again, he was somehow not perfect but also this great amazing and wonder husband at the same time while giving the advice he got from reddit back to them like he's a great guru.
I watched the whole video you jackass
@@Lp-army1 I watched the whole video smart@$$, he repeated the same things over and over again, he repeated the advice he got from r/relationshipadvice to the subreddit like he came up with it, he went on and on about how he both wasn't perfect and also this great, amazing and wonderful husband he was.
@@Lp-army1 I watched the whole video, I listened to him repeated the same things over and over again while going on about how he wasn't perfect but was also this great, amazing and wonderful husband.
And what kills me I'm not trying to say is mostly men on these stories but the stuff of women do to cover their tracks on these stories like how can you straight up lie on somebody it's weird
Hey! Does anyone know where does Telltales find his AI voice? Which site?
What is gray rock?
Its when you act unresponsive or unengaged to your abuser so they will loose intrest in you.
This is really wordy and long and reads like a chapter out of a book. Like halfway thru the video the guy goes on a tangent about relationships in general and his update is all him reminiscing of the past with his ex. Why? What’s the point?
For someone not familiar with it, what is the grey rock method? jc
The grey rock method is where you deliberately act unresponsive or unengaged so that an abusive person will lose interest in you. Abusive people thrive on emotions and drama. When you act indifferent and don't show your emotions, they may lose interest and stop bothering you. This is known as “grey rocking.”
You respond with "mmmh" or "ok" without any emotion to anything they say
And you don't initiate conversations as well
Gotcha, I have seen this done before, but didnt know the name for it. Thank you!
Stroy 1 is too much yidiyada
Women can't really take accountability
Lets not say women. Lets say "narcissists"
OP is such a sucker its crazy
Bro just give the story i give zero fucks about what you go through
Stop rambling and give updates guy.
Story 2, its really just OP'S fault here, if you are friends with bastards that would sleep with your wife, then you get whats coming for you, its really your own doing.
First comment? (I love pissing people off lol)
Like this is a joke but imagine how miserable you have to be with your life that you have to attack random strangers on the internet for a simple comment that wasn't really harming anyone😦💀
K. Good on you choom.
@@Welon_Muskbro just added a word to my vocabulary haha
@@iamjustagirlintheworldd how would you feel if I showed off the fact that on Xbox 360, I was the top 3rd shotgun user in battlefield 4?
Its bragging rights crap no one cares about
@@BeefMeisterSupreme good for you damn bro (idk much about XBOX but I certainly do not get rude to strangers for a simple thing)