Apollo RFZ DB X-18 125CC | UPGRADES PT 3| NIBBI vs MIKUNI TOP SPEED TEST
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2020
- SPEED TEST! NIBBI vs MIKUNI top speed test. Will the NIBBI or MIKUNI give us more power? Find out in this video.
UPGRADES PART 3! All links to upgraded parts are linked below.
Pro-Taper SE Handlebars: www.ebay.com/itm/ProTaper-Min...
Carburetor: NIBBI Racing Performance Motorcycle Carburetor 26mm GY6 125CC Carburetor PE26mm With Carburetor Jets Fit YAMAHA KAWASAKI SUZUKI Apollo Dirt Bike Mini Bike SSR TTR KYMCO SYM TAOTAO GY6 Scooter Moped www.amazon.com/dp/B076CGSQQH/...
UNI Air filter: uni Two-Stage Pod Filter www.amazon.com/dp/B000N5UCEG?...
Handlebar shims: Motorcycle Handlebar Risers 1 1/8... www.amazon.com/dp/B082K7B7D7?...
Intake Adapter: NIBBI Racing Parts Motorcycle... www.amazon.com/dp/B075848ND5?...
Intake Adapter: NIBBI Racing Parts Replacement... www.amazon.com/dp/B07KR24LDF?...
Intake: HIAORS Intake Manifold 56-2 Inlet... www.amazon.com/dp/B07V9RJ5ZX?... 
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Finally a video the guy actually knows what he's doing!
No doubt. Gotta really appreciate the straight forward approach. The warmer southern states have some warm and good people. He's obviously one of them!!
To have full disclosure. I live in warm Central Florida.
He's over shot the carb it's too big and that's why he can't tune it right so no he doesn't know what he's doing, drob down to the 24 and even 22 for better tuning
Love your content keep it up!!!!
I love pit bikes and am always trying to find upgrades but its impossible to find any ligit ones online, and what I do find is so vague I dont know if the purchase is worth it. I LOVE THIS, keep it up, you keep giving me new ideas lol.
Thank you so much! This confirms I'm getting the mikuni clone you just saved me 80 bucke
Hahahaha slick come back for the camera catch!! Classic
Thanks for the tips
Man i have been riding dirt bikes from a lil guy, im 41 now and my young sons ride now.....do u know the trouble ive had getting grips off!!!!!! Never thought about the air trick....damn thank you so much!!! Building a rfz 125 for my son now and its gonna be a breeze getting old grips off now, thank you!!! Just got me as a new subscriber 🤘🤘🤘
I appreciate that man! Thanks so much! That o boy works if the last person didn’t glue them 🤣
We're gettin' a Mikuni - thanks!
Awesome vid
I use copper tubing for spacers, cut to length, then cut in half. Tap with hammer to form handle bars. They act like a crush gasket when torqued. Aluminum tubing works okay too.
Good idea dude! Never thought about that!
You were real grown up about your opinion and didn't really rag nibby Libby does have some good quality parts when they work right keep up the good work I tilt my head to you Steve from Annapolis Maryland
Maybe go for a 24mm nibbi, that size jump from 22 to 26 is too much probably. A mikuni 26mm usually comes with a 190 main jet and 22.5 pilot jet btw. That might also not be your ideal carb.
Yeah when i adjust my air fuel screw,i take out just 1 of the manifold bolts and lossen the other a little then i can spin the carb over to the left side and it makes doing that adjustment real easy.
That's ok , thank you brother!!
Hey dude just bought a DBX 18! I also just ordered the same Mikuni carb for it. Can you do a quick video or add a picture to the comments section of how you rerouted the house that was coming off of the stock air filter and case? Thanks and keep the videos coming!
Just tuck that hose up by your gas tank if you’re replacing the air filter.
I did this just today . I used the 108 jet and switched the do dad for the other one that came with it. I had the same air leak used the stock plastic thing and old gasket no leaks and twisted the air a bit now it runs good . way better than stock. snaps up good and quick no pops coming down and it idles prefect.
My boy would live that bike
hey buddy how many teeth are on your front and rear sprockets? and do you feel like it has enough low end or does it need more?
Nice job on this vid bro... 5*
The nibbi carb is for advanced racing engines for more prep to the power band. The carb will show big torque gains with a cam, exhaust, and port matching and tuning. This would only be needed if you where actually racing in the 125 classes. Other than that I would stay with a mikuni for better fuel economy.
Meh these are pretty adjustable. I'm new to engines but it's obvious if you have the ability to adjust fuel and air, you could theoretically hook any carb that is compatible, up to whatever bike/ lawn mower engine.
The Brand of carb has nothing to do with if it's a "Racing" carb or not. Mikuni Carbs have been used in the highest forms of racing and not just motorcycles for a long time. The Carb is spec'd and sized by its venturi Throat size and its jetting circuits and if its got an accelerator pump, idle air cutoff, TPS, ext ext. The "Nibbi carb is for Advanced racing engines" for more "PEP" to the powerband" comment along with Mikuni is for fuel economy is completely Inaccurate.
@@cycletechperformance9581 the nibbi is extremely sensitive to minor adjustments and hard to tune, thats the only difference in my opinion
A 26mm might be over kill , I was thinking 24mm flatside would match the psi in that engine size Efficiently
CFM not PSI
I subscribed and I would love to have that bike for little man. Oh,buy the way what size handlebars did you put on the bikes?
Thanks!! We did the give away a few months ago already. Those are pro taper xr50 mini SE bars. 7/8”
do you happen to know if the needle on that Mikuni has a little white plastic spacer (washer) on it? I feel all 3 of my others with my piranha 140 engine did not have it but the one I just bought did and the bike seems to run worse. I have no idea if that white washer is the problem but I want to make sure.
very good I have a small fleet of Mikuni's
Hey man nice video I have a question I just got me an rfz x19 just like that one next to the one you’re working on and it’s super high rev in any choke position. Any advice on that? Thx keep up the good content
Sounds like an air leak. Spray around carb/intake with carb cleaner. If rpm jump up when you spray you have an air leak.
@@TynkaTyme you only need choke for cold start try the idle screw
There should be a round washer to seal the big whasher
good comparaison fast accélération with nibbi
if you figure out the nibbi jets and good tunes can you make a video about it
Bought a dbx16 last week with upgraded motor with clutch. Already had the nibbi on it but the guy didn't put air filter on it cuz he didn't have room he said. Where can i get the off set neck air filter at so we don't have to run open carb?
i subbed i reallu want a RFZ they seem like really nice bikes :)
Noah ! Thanks Noah! They’re great bikes, but just like anything, you have to take care of them if you want them to last!
What jets pilot and main would you recommend for the mikuni
12:57 just letting you know it prob too late by now, the foam piece for the air filter is burning on the pipe.
I use the carburetor from nibbi that you just bolt right on same fittings as the mikuni and it runs better than any carb I've gotten to work on my bike, I do have a mikuni carb but i could never get it to work on my bike
My card is screwed and I bought the nibbi carb what’s something to be prepared for when installing
About to buy a 2020 apollo 125 18 , Love the vid man i’m trying to shop around for a new carb already cause i keep hearing that that’s a issue on them
Knock off mikuni vm22 is the best/easiest application by far.
@@TynkaTyme Thanks for the advice bro & another question if you don’t mind where did you order yours from
@@romanweldon8341 you can get them on Amazon or eBay. Just type in vm22. Real mikunis will be around 100+ dollars.. knock offs will be around 20-30. Knock offs work just fine
@@TynkaTyme Ok i’ll look at them now and also people have been saying nibbi carbs ever hard anything about them?
@@romanweldon8341 this video we’re commenting on is about the nibbi carb. I took it back off if that tells you how i feel about them 🤣
Is these all the parts I need to swap out the carb ?? I’m new to this ..just got first pit bike ever 🤣
Hey Tynka Tyme... I noticed @ 13:00 that a bit of smoke was coming off the UNI sponge filter near the exhaust. I noticed that on mine after adding it and oiling it up. Is it an issue being only an inch from the exhaust? Will it stop smoking? Thanks for the vids and advice!!
That’s probably just some oil on the exhaust from putting the filter on, maybe i touched the exhaust with the oiled filter. As long as it’s not touching the pipe, that oil should burn off the pipe and be just fine
I got 24mm nibbi carburetor for 125 Apollo blazer ATV I not sure if I got the right one
So did you ever figure out why the 110 beat you,did the 110 have work done too it.
i just used a air compressor it expands and slides right off no lube
The X18 comes with a 22mm carb for a reason. 26mm is too big for a 125. Also, the screw on the intake side is your fuel screw. The screw on the filter side, next to your idle screw, is your air screw.
What pipe did you use from the head to the carb?
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Tune your.main jet first never touch needle thats for fine tune. Also buy a pack of spark plugs to check your plug for the tune
I almost bought the nibbi until I seen this lol thanks bro
Nice! Waste of money homie.
Just bought a x18 today. Came with a VM 22 on it already. How many turns out were you on the air screw!? Thank you very much
About 1 turn out
Hey bud , I ran into the exact same carburetor issues as you and I have a solution that makes my stock Apollo agb37 go 58 mph. Run the t-bolt racing intake manifold and 24 mm flat slide carburetor. I'm running second from the top slot on my needle. #38 pilot, 105 main jet. not only is the bike faster in top speed but you can go super slow in any gear. The drivability is excellent. No bog no cough. You can go from crawling to full throttle in deep gravel and not miss a beat. 26 mm carburetor is too big for 125CC. Flat slide carburetor seem to get a little bit better top end than the round slide carbs do. I tried running a nibbi 26 mm flat slide and it was just too big. Ended up buying a off-brand MAIKUNI 😂😂 and I have my Nibbi 26mm in storage until I go bigger in displacement on this bike. You should definitely try it I guarantee the results are night and day better than a vm22.
Thanks for the advice man! I’ll definitely have to try it out. That speed test was only 1/8 mile, I’m sure it had more in it. Thanks for the comment, maybe I’ll give what you said a shot. Thanks buddy! Safe riding!
Where can I find the carb your talking about with jets I need a link or exact explanation????
@@dirtdiver274 bruh. Literally in the description like i told you it would be in the video.
You think the 26mm nibbi will be too much still if I port match the intake tube with a dremel.. running stock displacement on my dbx20 125cc.. just broke it in for my 15yr old son.
@rotaryray what off-brank carb did you use? I'd love to try that setup
I subscribed can you send the bike to hawaii?! Haha jk. Good video man. 🤙
Damn
..I got the nibbi 26mm on mine and it's good but man the adjusting
dan kersting you got that right man. A lot of people don’t know how to adjust a carburetor, so i made this video to show the mikuni would be a better “bolt on and go” carb. I’m sure the nibbi is superior after you put a few hours into it getting it dialed in right. Thanks for watching dan!
@@TynkaTyme so for an experienced rider and obviously someone who works on their own bikes, would you say the nibbi is indeed superior? Was it worth the tuning over the mikuni? Had a lot of real mikunis before not sure how the knockoff would compare.
Avery Schroeder absolutely not superior. I still am fine tuning it to this day. I had zero issues with my mikuni clone. I just tried the nibbi out to see what the hype was about. The mikuni clone is getting put back on the bike this evening and the nibbi is going on the shelf.
Mikuni is really the “gas economy” way, a Nibbi is more 125cc racing classes via track days but I will say harder to “fine tune it” correctly if not it’ll confuse the idle via rich or lean, a Mikuni it’s easy to do no “fine tuning needed” just my opinion. 💯
The rfz bikes look sweet, do you have any experience with the tao bikes?
Ryan Jewell tons. What can i help you with?
@@TynkaTyme looking at at getting a 110 or maybe 125 to get my kid into riding, does the apollo have advantage over the tao as far a build quality or anything, or are they basically close to the same? I can see as far as the 125s the apollo appears to have a better looking frame.
Ryan Jewell that’s exactly why i chose the Apollo because of the better built frame. I’ve had Taos that we hit jumps with and constantly have to be welding the frame from cracking, and making it stronger.
Does it have a clutch?
I have the same one but my goes around 65 ish I did the clone mikuni performance cdi box performance carb bigger sprocket and performance air filter
Can you give me all the parts u used please
Hey bud I just ordered the 26mm nibbi for my rfz dbx18. What was your final clip setting and jet sizes? Trying to get a good starting point without taking the carb off 20 times
Man I’ll be honest, i took it right back off and switched back to the mikuni. I was chasing jetting and never could get it right, so just swapped it back off and it’s sitting on the shelf still 🤣
After watching this I got the 24mm nibbi that's FLANGE MOUNT like the OEM was..so far the flange mount seals better than the style nibbi u have...DID U HAVE TO REPLACE THE THROTTLE CABLE TO USE THE NIBBI CARB?
So what's the verdict.? I just bought my son a new db20.. gonna tear into the fuel system & get the most out of it.. recommendations?
@@justinshields4216 nibbi carburetor that's flange mount has been good so far! Deff more fuel n air compared to the "upgraded" mikuni knock off..I put bars/risers, hand guards, grips, (oem cables and brake/clutch lines) +3 tooth front sprocket, carb/2 stage air filter, bead locks on wheels, custom graphics kit bcuz OEM make it look cheap cheap...take care of these bikes like u wuld a Honda, kawasaki exct. and upgrade some parts for more power and it'll be more capable than the big brand bikes that are same class of pitbikes
Did the 24mm flange mount fit right on? I’ve been looking to buy but don’t want to get all those adapters lol. Let me know if you can find a link too . Same Apollo Dbx18
@@CSERepair yes it did and seals up good with or with out the plastic n rubber o-ring gasket...I used just the paper gasket n had 0 manifold leaks
I have an Apollo 125cc rfz 20 for about 3 months now brought it new first 2 months were good then then kick start broke off so i haven't rode in 3weeks i left gas in the tank in the 3 weeks of me waiting on a new kick start. I drained the gas out put new gas changed the spark plug, carb & air filter but it wont start for me. The gas line is open the kill switch on ignition on but it still wont start any suggestions ?
Figure out ur problem
Did you ever figure it out
Frames r different than this one I never seen this kind painted z20
My Apollo z40 max came with a pe22 NIBBI carb but the aluminum color one it isn’t the black and red carb, any idea what the differences are? And should I get a bigger carb for my 140cc?
Различие только в цвете и винте холостого хода,в серебристом он пластиковый а в черном алюминиевый.
Я бы не стал менять, так как увеличение диффузора на больший приведет к тому что мощность возрастёт только на верхах а подхват ухудшиться,если не менять жиклёры и не подбирать специально...
I see the Yamaha behind the Apollos. Is the Apollo a good investment, or would you recommend an older Yamaha or Honda?
Tim Kosiek thanks for the comment Tim! Depends on what you are doing with it. In my case, i went with the Apollo because it was cheap, parts are cheap, and they’re easy to work on. I knew I’d be crashing this thing, so i couldn’t see myself buying something nice and more expensive just to abuse it. I’m very impressed with how well the Apollo has held up for me. I give that thing hell every time I’m on it. I would definitely buy another one. If you take care of it maintenance wise, it will run with the rest of them.
@@TynkaTyme to be clear. When you say the Apollo, can you also give a model #, please? Seen the FZR, is that also an Apollo? What about the TAO, could it be that? I'm just not sure...
@@dereklouw4551 new z20 is the best Apollo
@@dereklouw4551 the fzr is made by Apollo
Older Honda is the way 2 go. Best move you'll make. These r waste of money. Most r sold quick
Which Mikuni ??
I have this bike. I was thinking about getting the z20 max. Do you know if there's much difference?
Just rim sizes are bigger on the max
@TynkaTyme it also looks more beefier around the frame. Like the overall bike looks more like a 125 RM as far as a dirt bike rather than a pit bike
I am looking at a 26mm Nibbi carburetor for a yx140cc pitbike,has anyone tried one on a 140cc?
I was suggested to get a pe22 NIBBI carb I have a 125cc with a big bore kit (57mm) which makes it a “140cc” it runs pretty good but I’m also curious if I should of gotten a bigger carb
Lol PFT! UNREAL!
I just put a mikuni on my x6 almost broke my foot😃👍
I would love to have it,, I'll pay shipping of course can't afford a bike
Someone already won it buddy
You won't see any difference from just a carb as far as top end. Now if you did some work to the head valve springs cam head work now you would benefit from the 26 mm carb nice video tho.
Thanks Joseph! Yeah, easiest way to gain speed or torque would be gearing. I made this video to show people a carburetor isn’t the magical cure for speed. Everyone things a bigger carb is the ticket to going faster when that’s not the case. Thanks for watching!
Hey when he hit that zap & Roger I wanna be your man 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣 hell yeah! Props to you for catching that one. I feel like most people don’t know about zap and roger 🤣🤣
@@TynkaTyme classic song man classic! Thanks for the content I just bought my son a used chinese 4 wheeler so I'm trying to take as much info in as possible.
@@chadlovan5522 nice! The four wheelers are super simple to work on man. If you run into any snags, find me on Facebook under Tynka Tyme and shoot me a message. Happy riding!
@@TynkaTyme oh yeah!! He was from Dayton, Ohio
would you recommend me getting a nibbi carb instead of the stock mikuni for my yamaha pw 80 ?
Absolutely not. Only my opinion though.
I have to dbx 19 I bought the makuni carburetor I hit 56 on mines
montavious miller I’m sure mine would go faster if i had more room. It was a very short run
I’m looking to get an Apollo rfz, how are you giving it away?
Someone already won it
Hi I bought a mikuni carb and an intake for my rfz125 and have been tuning it for days with the aftermarket intake it will barely run. Bogs when giving it throttle. But when I use the stick intake it runs great. Is this due to the stock intake being able to have the vacuum hose attached or is this another issue? I can't seem to figure out how that line makes a difference and can't find anything online stating what that line is even for.
Are you talking about the hose on the air filter? Never seen an rfz with hose on intake.
@@TynkaTyme yes its on the intake filter
@@TynkaTyme and woth the stock filter and the hose on I have my throttle pin on the 4th spot and it runs decent when warm but when cold it will idle bit if I touch the throttle it dies immediately. Until it get fully heated up I have to let it run. Takes like 10-15 minutes before I can ride it every time
@@ViaticalGenie4 that hose isn’t causing it. Your aftermarket filter is allowing better air flow than your stock filter.. just need to adjust your fuel screw on bottom of carb to get the adjustment right for the larger volume of air it’s taking in with the new filter.
@@TynkaTyme yeah I adjusted it from closed until the screw fell out with all 5 throttle pin settings and couldn't get it to stop stalling as soon as I touched the throttle but as soon as I put the stock intake on and had the pin in the 4th setting I was able to ride it. Still needs more adjusting but I'm gonna take it to a buddy who own a shop and see if he can figure it out. There might be something else wrong.
Hello i have a Ssr125cc i just got a vm26-606 mikuni carburetor for it and i can't find anyone to help with jetting it do u have any recommendations on jets i should use if so thanks for the help.
Get a vm22 and call it a day. You’ll never get it jetted right with a 26mm carb. Speaking from experience
Do u know what the jetting would be for that
@@brigzy37 they work straight out of the box
@@TynkaTyme ok thank u very much
Yo man I was actually thinking of buying one as my first dirt bike so it what be awesome if you where willing to give away
Doing give away at 1K subs
Looks like you got paid for an endorsement brother. Can't find a mikuni link in the description.
VM22 26m Carburetor with Air Filter Intake Compatible with Pipe Pit Dirt Bike Motorcycle 110cc 125cc 140cc Lifan YX Zongshen Pit Dirt Bike CRF70 XR50 KLX BBR Apollo Thumpstar Braaap Atomic DHZ SSR a.co/d/fDWq0qz
Does anyone know where I can buy a gas tank for this bike
you buy it from the apollo website itself they have all parts
Can I put this on my 125 cc 4 wheeler
Yes
49mph top speed is nice for a 125cc damn I might get one for my wife
I love my dbx18 bike and I barely even rode it anywhere yet lol its amazing for the price and the parts are real cheap.
@@SlyySquad ill keep that in mind bro
im getting a genuine mikuni carb
What type of muffler do you have?
Stock
I fixed my air leak with my daughters hot glue gun. Used the whole stick! Had to keep reapplying after each ride. Really starting to look messy. But I didn't want to take it back off.
What fuel are you running in your Apollo?
I run 93, but would recommend ethanol free fuel
Do ya mix? Or premium out of the pump? Much appreciation for the reply!! Keep up the awesome vids!
@@jordyhall1909 thanks buddy! Just premium from the pump is all i use
Bigger front sprocket for more top speed 18 tooth 🦷🦷🦷🦷🦷🦷
air filter is burning on the exsuahst pipe😭😭
@13:02 note future me
My pitty has a nibbi carb on and has a few other upgraded engine bits and runs sweet, a lot quicker than standard pit bikes. Check my short and you'll see for yourself
Do you have a link for the mikuni?
www.ebay.com/itm/VM22-Carburetor-Filter-for-Mikuni-110cc-125cc-140cc-Dirt-Pit-Bike-SSR-YCF-A-/113190300614?pageci=2dee8e98-6e7b-47dd-969f-5fde4cd5ab1d
@@TynkaTyme thanks for passing the link. BTW is there a specific kit of jets that fits this mikuni carb or the same jets for a nibbi will fit?
@@LATization1 they are different jets i believe. You just order jets for a vm22. You shouldn’t have to rejet the mikuni though, mine was perfect right out of the box
@@TynkaTyme oh cool cool...im hoping that would be the same in my case but im going to use it for a 150cc gy6 engine so im figuring ill have to rejet a bit
@@LATization1 yes you probably will. My best advice would be take the jets out when you get the carb and match them up to pics on ones you order. There are numerous companies out there that make their own version of this carb so they’re not all the same
I deleted my last comment that wasn’t ment for your video sorry about the confusion
Another RUclipsr is doing the exact same content we are I was actually watching this video it is good 👍
Yea I'm done with the nibbi, I'm going with the knock off makuni
My 2020 stock RFZ goes 51 mph
Cool.
Get the 22mm 26 really ain’t meant for pit bikes
I got the 24mm nibbi on mine an we out
Nibbi is 85 Mukuni 35
Do a giveaway
Doing give away when i get 1k subs
The Mikuni sucks compared to the 22mm Nibbi on my apollos
Like an sub good video
ChicagoDeserts thanks for that!
made it slower lol
these nibbi carbs are a rip off all they change is the color thats it
Stop calling it a makuni if its a clone
Why?
@@TynkaTyme my experience on "clones" are cheap knock offs of the original. It may look like it, smell like it, but does it run like it? Kind of hard to do a side by side with a well known carb manufacturer and nibbi when you dont ACTUALLY have a Makuni. Im not knocking this video because my interest was with Nibbi, but when I heard Mikuni "Clone", I automatically ignored anything said about so said carb. Its like being at a car meet. You and your buddies have rad rods, then your douchy friend shows up in a fiero with a ferarri sticker on it.
I think Ive wasted more time on this response than I should have.
@@TynkaTyme In short. If your title said Nibbi vs Mikuni Clone, id be more okay... but now Ive just frustratingly karen'd myself. Im gonna go grab a beer for both you and me and rethink my life.
You have issues lol it's the same thing basically stop crying about it
6ft ain't tall
Your mom thinks it is
I get the same top speed with stock exhaust and carb lol
Considering i have the stock exhaust as well, that proves the nibbi does absolutely nothing everyone thinks it does
Any recommendations for an upgraded carb for the 72cc apollo?