Which Seeds? What Pellets? Chop Or Nop? |
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Beautiful Orabella and thank you for all the helpful tips! Much appreciated 😊
Anytime!
Excellent topic! I stopped freezing chop as my birds didn't like it and won't eat it. I make weekly chop now and it's much better.
I stay away from the colored seeds and added vitamins seeds. My birds love sprouted seeds, legumes and grains.
Soaked and sprouted seeds, legumes and grains are very underrated foods for parrots in a lot of parrot forums, I find. I also keep pigeons and buy pigeon mix in large bags, so it's quite cheap (no pun intended) that I run that through a colander to remove the sorghum (which can produce cyanide when sprouting) and sprout the rest. All the birds love it.
I just saw this!
Yeah, freezing didn't work at all for me - turned to slop. Yuck!
I admire that you can make your chop weekly. It's daily here- exhausting!
I need to sprout again, although I try not to during summer (seasonal). I recently got some mustard seeds to sprout too! And I agree, I don't like seeds with vitamins. The vitamis are on the shell, which they don't eat, and the seeds inhibit the absorption of calcium, so what's the point? They need good calcium, so I try to only do seeds morning or evening.
Interesting... I'm going to look at the pigeon mix next time I'm getting food...
That totally sounds like our two conures always playing and yelling at each other I was laughing so hard 😅
Smiling, yes parrots know how to have fun!
Muy buenos tip
Gracias!
I will try the parakeet mix. Buster does not really like many seeds. He is always so busy that he needs a lot of protein. He eats eggs with Dad on the weekends. He also likes meat. We try to keep it lean, but he is so picky that he gets some. He eats best with my husband. I have always heard that it is a cockatoo thing. They want to eat with their humans.
I give Buster some sunflower seeds as a treat, mostly because he will let me feed them to him. He is not bonded with me, so can I get him to take a treat from me? I am all for it. I also allow a little bit of cheese. Ones without coloring in them. We also try and have a safe meal he can have with Dad on the weekends. Even if it's just breakfast. Great video thanks for the info!~
My cocky loves a bit of hard cheese too. It's on a lot of 'never feed' lists but almost always without any explanation as to _why._ Given there's barely any detectable lactose in aged hard cheese, I don't see why it's a problem as an occasional treat for otherwise healthy, active birds.
So sorry - does this happen to you? On my phone I don't see many posts. Then when I get on my computer, there are more posts that I didn't ignore, I just didn't see on my phone! So, just seeing your post now!
Interesting! Aurabella is human, just ask her. She greets humans, ignors most other birds. Logically, she should eat human food. What the feather are pellets? Insulting!
She has been reduced to some pellets- when a bird is hungry, they eat. But we give her veggies and some other human food. I have seen no evidence that eggs are anything but beneficial for parrots (unless someone has an Eclectus or Lorikeet- different diets, and eggs are toxic for Eclectus parrots). So, we give her some bites of egg if we have it. We are fortunate because she likes both of us, so she will take treats from us, probably any human-- after all, she's human (she thinks).
She eats some seeds, although I limit what I give her; she doesn't really do nuts either. She seems to like cashews. Does Buster eat nuts? Sometimes I don't feel like Aurabella eats a lot, but I watch her weight and she seems fine. I need to do more research into diet for her... (I always research and research diet).
There's no lactose in hard cheese? I didn't know that!
I avoid cheese but the birds think it's a treat and will steal any that they can!
@@ParrotBliss I'll put a caveat on the hard cheese thing...... 'American cheese' can't legally be called 'cheese' in many other parts of the world (including Australia) because it's actually less than 50% cheese. With so many added colours and other chemicals, along with being highly processed, it probably shouldn't be eaten by any living creature... especially parrots!
As a rule, the older the _natural_ dairy product, the less lactose it has. I make my own philadelphia cream cheese out of jersey milk that's near expiry and it has only about half the lactose of fresh cow's milk (but still not suitable for birds).
Aged, _natural_ cheddar (not that crazy orange goo), gouda and muenster are very low in lactose... to the point where it's almost undetectable. On the upside, they're high in absorbable calcium. Low sodium natural cheddar is a favourite of all my animals.
I give scrambled eggs, bits of white freshly cooked chicken, fresh vegetables, greens, sprouts and unsweetened, organic coconut flakes. Occasionally they get the ultimate treat. What’s that? Well, I mix human grade organic chia, millet and hemp hearts with unsweetened, organic chunky almond butter and roll it into small balls. I also make my own birdie bread. The “flour” is ground mix of Zupreem naturals and Dr. D’s. Then I add other things. All of my birds will eat pellets. Most love Dr. D’s and Zupreem naturals. They will eat Top’s but their not real fans. I’m
working to convert 2 birds from Zupreem fruit to the natural. They prefer to eat the red and orange pellets. They leave all of the purple. I do give occasional, small amounts of fruit. I offer raspberry, blackberry, blueberry or apple. I spend more time and energy feeding my birds than my husband, me or our dog! ❤
Jan, your birds are blessed! Funny that your 2 Caiques eat the red pellets, those are the ones that were left over for us! And, I gave up on the Dr. D's. Everything was great about it, but my birds became oatmeal-makers and had no water to drink! LOL
😂yes they make a mess but they put everything in their water. Without exaggerating I give fresh water at least 4 times daily. They do consume more Dr. D’s than they waste. 2 of my girls put beak fulls of Zupreem into their water. They all soak chop and pieces of walnut. So, I give fresh, clean water!
@@1hawaii21 our birds… they turn us into waitresses, cooks, cleaners, chew toys…
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Wow! Those are some great ideas for yummy treats! I regularly make my own veg, chicken and meat stock at home and I always take some out for the animals before adding salt. For them, I cook either soup mix (split peas, barley, lentils, whole wheat etc) or quinoa in the stock. Dogs, poultry and parrots all love it added to their regular diets, especially if moulting when micronutrients and animal fats are so important for feather development, vitamin A synthesis and carotenoid colour distribution.
Take this from one who knows from experience, don't give your parrot a chili pepper and then do 'kiss kiss'. Wow! That heat stays on the beak.
Yeah.... I've been there. It's hot!
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Haha that's hilarious
Diego!
That's amazing that your two cats cost lots more to feed than all your birds!! (Do you count how many birds you have?) Is it because cats eat mostly meat and fish which is expensive?
You've got it. A cat's diet, which should be protein-rich and carb-super low is a meat or grain-free diet. Translation, expensive.
Parrot pellets, seeds and nuts are not as expensive. Hard to believe, that the birds are less for someone like me with a big flock.
Aurabella is like a mother in law that comments everything you says in her foreign language😂😂😂😂😂
That is a great was of describing what she does!
Haha, Best comment!
Harry loves scrambled eggs, he has it always, I think it is really good for them. Also, something I added recently to Harry's diet and he loved is brown flaxseed. I have researched that the brown one has a nutty flavour and they love, and it is really healthy. Besides I always mix some tops pellets on his bowl together with Harrison... Recently he started to eat tops, which has more vegetables in the blend. I have a question: what do you think about safflower seeds as reward for training? Do you think it can trigger hormonal behaviour on conures? I think it is the "best" seed option for reward, but I don't find information about it.
Does Harry get some nuts in his diet every day? Why not use nuts as rewards? Better fat that he needs. Pistachio, walnut, hazelnut…
@@ParrotBliss he is very picky 😓😓 he gets raw cashews everyday, like 3 nuts. But reward, he is obsessed with safflower seeds.
@@betoracy I find that different people say different things, but I have heard that these are very high and fat. Try to switch him to nuts. Try pistachios. He should have about a quarter cup of fat every day.
@@ParrotBliss thanks for the advice. It is very hard to find literature about golden conures specifically. I see only a few information in Brazil where I come from. I know in nature they do a lot açai fruit and golden berries, but for captivity it is too much energy and fructose. What is fun about it is that harry is addicted to blueberries which is very similar in color and size to açai fruit. It is very interesting to see how the natural behavior and genetics manifest in captivity. Same about loving showers and water, since their natural environment in the Amazon forest are river banks and areas that flood half of the year.
If the pellets you discussed are the popular brand that I originally tried, NONE of my birds ate them, and wild birds outdoors wouldnt touch them. They contain GMO ingredients. Look into the Harrisons brand....it's organic, balanced, and is the best brand for nutrition. My birds prefer them over seed.
Interesting - Good for you. I agree, I prefer non-GMO ingredients. Organic too. I strongly believe that diet is everything. Sounds like you have lucky birds.
@Parrot Bliss - Lucky?? OMG....spoiled rotten!! They are my everything!! LOL!! Gotta keep em happy and healthy cuz I'm selfish and want them in my life as long as possible!! Great channel, keep doing what you do!!
Cool I feed them scramble eggs brown rice fresh veggies including hot peppers 🌶. Never thought that they could eat beans 🫘. Which types of beans woukd you recommend? . I'm ok i think wit
the pellets they get .
Some large beans can be toxic for parrots if fed uncooked; Anasazi, Black, Fava, Kidney, Lima, Navy, Pinto and Soy can cause problems. Fresh green beans, broad beans and butter beans are favourites for my birds and they spend loads of time extracting them from the pods and then shredding them.
@anserbauer309 I found they like greenbeans snow peas a lot
If the beans are cooked then I think any are fine. They have a lot of protein but they also have lectins so they need to be cooked correctly (like in a pressure cooker) or I buy garbanzo beans in a can. They LOVE them.
Hi Anser - what makes them toxic, the lectins? I believe I had this conversation with my mentor, but I don't recall (it was several years ago). I pressure cook black beans because I like them, so then I have some for me and them!
@@ParrotBliss It's my understanding the lectins are a problem in terms of digestibility generally but can also result in poisoning in large quantities. I believe they need to be 'wet cooked' (boiled or steamed) to neutralise the lectins. None of my birds seem too excited by cooked beans.
I love black beans (and most other cooked beans too) but tend to avoid the canned beans for myself and my birds just because of the sodium content..... keeping an eye on my blood pressure and trying to keep sodium intake a bit lower.
Oh boy. This topic is guaranteed to prove controversial in the comment section. 🍿(Grabbing popcorn)🍿
In a nutshell, I don't like any prepared seed mixes and buy and mix my own. Verifying that she actually eats it, and not toss it on the floor. Plus Tops pellets and cut veggies and egg with occasional fruit (chop). Pretty much, everything.
I would expect it to be a more controversial topic, actually. Then again, I met someone with some amazing birds yesterday... who get fresh fruit and a seed mix, like the one I showed. Not good. I think that those who need to improve the diet they give aren't here to find out!
Sounds like your GCC eats wonderfully!
@@ParrotBliss Had to comment for a heartfelt Thank You! I try to do my best.
Food color is like makeup on your food, it's unnecessary and as you said no nutritional value. I think the color is there for us. I don't buy colored either. I check the labels on what is in it. My birds seem to like some different brand seeds. They like the zupreem natural pellets and they like ABBA parakeet mix. I do split it up and freeze it. I give my birds freeze dried chop and they love it. All different kinds of vegetables, berries, legumes and all my birds run to the dishes I love to see that. I have pure coconut oil I mix with food each day.
It is like makeup and it is marketed to us, since we are the ones that buy it. Too much artificial color!
Good job, so glad you feed your birds well. It is rewarding to watch them rush to the fresh foods, I love that too!
What do you exactly feed this precious umbrella cockatoo? Please make a video? One important issue ir cloacal prolapses :( :( :(
I'll add a video to my list for you - prolapsed cloaca, not easy. Did it happen to your bird?
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Hello, I don't believe feeding parrots chicken eggs is very good. Eggs are terrible for humans full of fat and cholesterol and it's a little cannibalistic. Just my opinion. Ty!
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I've researched, spoken to experts, including people who have been avian vets and parrot specialists for 40+ years. There is even commercial eggfood made for parrot parents who are feeding their babies.
It used to be said that eggs had too much cholesterol, but research has changed on that. Eggs are a life-giving food. And, part of the food chain- which may or may not be cannibalistic (although they are different orders of animals, scientifically speaking).
I mean no offense to @Animals-33 . I think that eggs have gone the way of the butter vs. marjoram issue. It's good, then it's bad, then it's good, back to good in moderation. Seems it has been shown that the cholesterol in eggs doesn't seem to raise cholesterol levels the way some other foods, such as those high in trans fats and saturated fats, do. Like many foods, the benefits out-weigh possible negatives if consumed in moderation. A balanced vitamin rich diet is so difficult to achieve when our birds commonly get the same exact meals every day. So for me, I include it. A birds diet is, IMO (I don't have facts to quote) the #1 cause of any pet birds illness or worse, demise.
For myself, my wife is not pleased with what I spend on purchasing a bird. (tolerant) So I have her utmost approval on what I spend and do for their diet ensuring their longevity. Including everything being organic. I don't even buy organic for myself!
@@tomcoon9038 I agree, agree, agree. Spent too much on your GCC?
@@ParrotBliss "Spent too much on your GCC?" Here in upstate NY she was 950.00 including vet check and DNA test. My wife say's " for something that may fly away or die from something, or, or, or? Yea, that's my wife. That's the way she thinks. All good. I still love her. 🙂
A couple of things to consider when contemplating foods that are good for our birds, especially birds kept indoors or not in a natural setting; The first thing being, birds are not people. They have different digestive processes, different enzymes and different nutrient requirements. Since birds come from eggs, they need all the nutrients within eggs just to form; especially the fats, proteins, calcium and cholesterol. All the ingredients needed to make a bird are found in eggs.
Both birds and people produce cholesterol in their livers, but birds typically produce comparatively less of it, despite needing cholesterol for sexual development and feather production, which is why many birds (including many parrots) increase their animal food intake (usually fatty insects) when feeding young, producing eggs and when moulting.
Pet birds typically don't have access to a variety of insects, their larvae or wild honeydew and lerps their wild cousins do, so supplementing their food with egg is a great way of ensuring they get the fats, cholesterol, beta carotenes, protein and vitamin D they need. Some micronutrients (magnesium, zinc), beta carotenes (precursors to vitamin A synthesis) and others are only soluble in fats and are most soluble in animal fats, meaning without it, they can't always extract enough from their regular food. Eggs are an easy, reliable, rich source of of these nutrients, fats and proteins.
Regarding the 'cannibalistic' reference..... a lot of people see 'birds' as one big group of related species, but in fact, they've been around since before the non-avian dinosaurs went extinct and some different lineages are less closely related to each other than many mammal clades. For example, galliformes (chickens, turkeys, quail and pheasants) are an ancient lineage, as are anseriformes (ducks, geese and swans), going back tens of millions of years. So is the ratite lineage (ostrich, emus, rheas etc) which pre-dates the extinction of the other dinosaurs by around 20 million years. Psittacines (parrots) are a relatively 'new' lineage, being more closely related to falcons and sparrows than to the ancient bird lineages.
That means that in biological terms, you are more closely related to a rabbit, hare or tree-shrew than parrots are to chickens, ostriches or ducks. Also, fun fact, some parrots have been observed eating other birds' eggs in the wild.