A Powerpoint About Journey To Un'Goro

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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

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  • @viraltis2012
    @viraltis2012 3 месяца назад +55

    Mechs were added in GVG. Cards like harvest golem existed, but didn’t have the mech tag.

    • @FlareIsGone
      @FlareIsGone  3 месяца назад +24

      I thought so but wasn't sure

  • @IRDeady
    @IRDeady 2 месяца назад +3

    8:17 when this came out I was new to the game and trumpHS had me totally convinced that the marshrsh queen would be THE deck. I opened a pack with the caverns below, thought it looked bad so I dusted it and several other cards to craft the marsh queen. I learned a lesson soon after.

  • @ftranjix
    @ftranjix 3 месяца назад +16

    There are no words in the english language to describe the pure horror I used to feel when a druid played two Vicious Fledglings in turn 1 with Innervate and coin

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 3 месяца назад +44

    Un'Goro, then followed by Knights of The Frozen Throne, was such an amazing time for the game. Arguibly the peak of Hearthstone tbh.
    It is baffling tho that it took them about 6 years to finally rip the bandaid and make *Open The Waygate* a once per game effect. That card was degenerate from the moment it released.

    • @Smallpriest
      @Smallpriest 3 месяца назад

      So true, ungoro was my favorite expansion

    • @shrishvellore1501
      @shrishvellore1501 3 месяца назад +2

      Whispers was also Pog

    • @filipvadas7602
      @filipvadas7602 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@shrishvellore1501 whispers was when I started playing and, yeah, it was awesome. Yogg in his original state was terrible for the game tho

  • @unknowed5048
    @unknowed5048 3 месяца назад

    32:58: Funny story, I run Caverns Below in Mill Rogue since there is always a strategy of returning Coldlight Oracle back to hand with Shadowstep to mill the opponent down. When Crystal Core is played, the opponent would have trouble dealing with 5/5 board while being milled into fatique.
    53:19: Vicious Fledging is that one card that gets out of control REAL FAST especially if it's hitting your face. The moment you see that minion, you just kill it straight away (or silence). You don't allow it to attack.

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC 3 месяца назад +1

    Fun fact! Quilboar actually did not come out with an expansion, but were added mainly to Battlegrounds.

  • @Bolvar_
    @Bolvar_ 3 месяца назад +16

    When i saw the video is 1h i was hoping at least 50min of that is just about galvadon

  • @atoucangirl
    @atoucangirl 3 месяца назад +3

    as a former LoR player, jungle giants makes me realize just how expensive attack is in HS. like, there's barely any minions with high attack for a cheap cost, even overstated minions with downsides tend to have more health than attack.
    this quest would be so busted in LoR because, depending on the region that gets it, they could potentially finish it on turns 4-5 and stomp you.

  • @socratessocrates6604
    @socratessocrates6604 3 месяца назад +7

    As someone who quit around Witchwood, it's cool to see that they buffed AND added Taunt to Tyrantus, which was already a great card in Big Druid back then. Poor Soggoth never stood a chance.

    • @socratessocrates6604
      @socratessocrates6604 3 месяца назад +1

      and it sucks apparently!

    • @willowhealy453
      @willowhealy453 3 месяца назад +6

      way better things to do in terms of big creatures now in druid, could get something for 8 or 9 that is crazy and affects the board immediately rather than something the opponent can react to

  • @kjbi430
    @kjbi430 3 месяца назад +1

    Like some other users pointed out, Lyra was pretty good in some deck. Not the most broken card but a solid choice for silence priest with radiant elemental, i loved this deck btw. I don't remember if it was played after Un Goro but great card.
    Sherazin is one of my favorite legendary of all time and i think that the version created by Eloise is still to this day my favorite iteration of Miracle Rogue.
    Tho, Ungoro was so refreshing, the year of Kracken was lacking in class diversity but i think that every class bar warlock has a T2 deck in Un'goro ? The quest was also a pretty cool mechanic even if half of them never were meta.
    Oh and King Mosh was ok in Control warior (like it's a card that you could run in some version), but control warrior was awfull at this time.

  • @lorenzogarese9601
    @lorenzogarese9601 3 месяца назад +1

    I remember control priest ran Lyra at 5 mana, at it was quite a good deck.
    Everyone thought priest would be trash going into un'goro. It was kind of a surprise that is was actually good.

  • @ManCarSua
    @ManCarSua 3 месяца назад +1

    9:40 ish the reason a lot of people also thought Hunter quest would be super overpowered is because we as hearthstone players couldn't read
    Play and summon are two entirely different things. So even though cards like Firefly would have helped, the issue lied in that we saw a lot of 1 mana minions on our board (because unleash the hounds). But the card was just trash when you realize you have to PLAY the minion

    • @FlareIsGone
      @FlareIsGone  3 месяца назад +1

      I refuse to think that people are that bad at reading

    • @ManCarSua
      @ManCarSua 3 месяца назад

      @@FlareIsGone partially bad at reading. And partially not realizing hunters had barely any good 1 cost minions in deck. Also, the tempo loss of not playing a one drop turn 1 mattered way more than people thought for what I remember. I think Trump had mentioned that in one his reviews after the patch released if I recall correctly
      Also quick edit. I love your videos!

  • @Greenmachine117
    @Greenmachine117 3 месяца назад +2

    I used Lyra back in 2017 in inner fire priest in wild. It was a pretty solid 30th card for the deck that could help you grind out in certain matchups. Deck wasn’t tier 1 but it was quite solid.

  • @le_Gush
    @le_Gush 3 месяца назад +4

    Lyra was played in top tier decks at KOFT

  • @Landmassorussia
    @Landmassorussia 3 месяца назад +3

    God, I love Un'goro, it's easily one of the most fun sets to come out, with a glaring, glowing, cavernous black eye.
    Also, mechs and dragons were not there at launch, mechs came on Goblins vs. Gnomes, and dragons came in Blackrock Mountain, both getting the retroactive treatment like naga and elementals got

  • @justinsmeer9539
    @justinsmeer9539 3 месяца назад +2

    The 1 attack you’re forgetting is enchanter so you’d recruit 2 dragons in one turn.

  • @Begeru
    @Begeru 3 месяца назад +3

    I’m very shocked you didn’t include Radiant Elemental???

  • @KuroiRenge
    @KuroiRenge 2 дня назад

    The problem with the Marsh Queen wasn't the 1 drops themselves. Hunters actually had really cracked out 1 drops at this time, that generated spells, beasts, rush minions, etc. They had no shortage of really efficient tools.
    The two problems were that it didn't curve out well to just have a ton of 1 drops, no matter how good they were, in the late game, and that you actually had to play these from your hand. That's nearly 25% of your deck if you didn't generate them.

  • @justinsmeer9539
    @justinsmeer9539 3 месяца назад +3

    I think the strongest quest rogue ever was was in boomsday before giggling inventor was nerfed. It had the 1/3 with rush lifesteel and glacial shard to stall aggro and sonya so it didn’t even need to worry about taunt walls like Druid had.

    • @cathulionetharn5139
      @cathulionetharn5139 3 месяца назад

      yeah it was either you draw well and win or you don't
      Absolutely no player interaction, freeze mage that kills you on turn4, or doesn't at all

    • @ph1lny3
      @ph1lny3 3 месяца назад

      Yep, the Sonya "fix" hurt the deck when it was still bad in wild and Giggling at 5 was insane as a stop gap for aggro. Imagine if Sonya still worked the way it did before, but at Titans when Mechwarper still wasn't nerfed. You could have an APM board clear with skaterbot/rush sparkbots as early as t 3/4 (t2/3 with coin), which would stay as 5/5s post-quest even when they die...

  • @fogfish303
    @fogfish303 3 месяца назад +9

    iirc lyra was good in raza anduin priest? i remember it seeing quite a bit of play there but maybe im wrong

    • @ElDubberz
      @ElDubberz 3 месяца назад +2

      @@fogfish303 it was one of the only legendaries I had at the time and I was obsessed with it lol but I don’t think it was all that great

    • @ph1lny3
      @ph1lny3 3 месяца назад +1

      I thought it saw more play in Cloning Gallery Priest? It was kind of a tempo play for the deck to do before t9.

    • @ElDubberz
      @ElDubberz 3 месяца назад

      @@ph1lny3 oh yeah, I think it would sometimes generate mind blasts and holy smites and random stuff to win

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn5139 3 месяца назад

    26:37 lyra might not be great but the point of the combo was mind blast
    Basically you grabbed a bunch of 0,1,2 mana spells and tried to miracle your way to 4 of them (+2 from your deck) and otk your enemy
    Yes there were better ways to do it
    Also stonehill defender could pull a Tyrion
    Ozruk was a 9 mana 5 5, and it was kinda bad, it's only way to work is to generate a bunch of 1 mana elemmentals, play like 5 of them, and next turn drop a 5 30, unfortunately it just gets removed

  • @EricHernandez-ib7jq
    @EricHernandez-ib7jq 3 месяца назад

    Before ungoro I was already a Priest control player. But Un Goro was the set that really speak to me "You will be forever a Control Player in this game"

  • @Yodaminnesota
    @Yodaminnesota 3 месяца назад

    Yooooo you mentioned my favourite Standard Deck of all time. I always called it Face Control Priest, dragon priest with Shadow Visions + Mind Blast / Anduin direct damage finisher. I remember people were worried it was going to be unplayable after Drakonid Operative rotated, but it actually got better because it was such a good answer to Cubelock with face damage and psychic scream for voidlord boards. Also, Duskbreaker was such an insane card it carried the dragon package by itself. Witchwood was the peak of the deck.

  • @masterdforest7737
    @masterdforest7737 3 месяца назад +1

    ungoro was such an awesome set. still playing one of my favorite decks in wild osd quest warrior. even crafted a golden elise for it. and im having a blasst with both marah queen and jungle giants. both received some nice new cards that make them way better

  • @err0rc0degames
    @err0rc0degames 3 месяца назад

    I once tried to play a Jungle Giants deck in Wild ranked around 2019~ish, and ended up getting a friend request whom I talked with and they told me the deck was fun. For that reason solely I have more respect for it than most failed quests

  • @edu8499
    @edu8499 3 месяца назад

    Living mana into enemy Mass Dispell into concede, those were the good time 😂.

  • @KraylebStudios
    @KraylebStudios 3 месяца назад

    it's kind of crazy that Elementals weren't in the game from the start. It feels kind of weird that they didn't exist yet

  • @Cannon_Shots
    @Cannon_Shots 3 месяца назад

    i remember earthen scales getting nerfed for miracle growth as well. crazy it wasnt reverted as well

  • @angrychicken2874
    @angrychicken2874 3 месяца назад +3

    im glad someone said that caverns below wasn’t good. It was sub 50% win rate in ungoro and was nerfed just bc it was polarising and unfun to play against. People nowadays act like it was one of the most broken decks ever while it strictly wasn’t.

    • @TannerLindberg
      @TannerLindberg 3 месяца назад +4

      What? You guys obviously didn't ladder in standard in this time quest rouge was consistently a 54 to 56% win rate tier 1 deck it was also in every line at every major tournament. We're is this revisonist history it wasn't good coming from?

  • @inutamer3658
    @inutamer3658 3 месяца назад +3

    Wasn't mech added in goblin v gnomes

  • @olofman300
    @olofman300 3 месяца назад

    Man, I would really wanna watch the full hour of this but can't stand listening to this song for that long

  • @BIOHAZARD_V2
    @BIOHAZARD_V2 3 месяца назад

    Volcano used to be overload 2, but it was still really good

  • @NattiNekoMaid
    @NattiNekoMaid 3 месяца назад

    King Mosh used to be 9 mana, and it saw some play in standard

  • @ElDubberz
    @ElDubberz 3 месяца назад

    I remember living mana getting psychic screamed lmao

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-3262 3 месяца назад +1

    56:00 or just volcano it lmao

  • @Zaki-zx3xq
    @Zaki-zx3xq 3 месяца назад +28

    Day 5 asking Flare to put timestamps in his videos

    • @EasterBunnyMurder
      @EasterBunnyMurder 3 месяца назад +6

      Day 1 one of asking flare not to put timestamps

  • @gmyrek31
    @gmyrek31 3 месяца назад

    quest was so good mechanic I come back to hs just to play quest rouge cuz remember having it quest , turns out it even more broken and there are more funny shinenigans.

  • @biglion3220
    @biglion3220 3 месяца назад

    ungoro was the latest expansion when it started, awesome vid

  • @fiprandom3783
    @fiprandom3783 3 месяца назад

    15:49 I didn't fully understand, does Meteor basically deal, for example, 30 damage to the target if it's a 30 health ultrasaur?

    • @yogg-saron
      @yogg-saron 3 месяца назад

      No, it doesn't change mid-game. Blizzard just buffed both cards (Ultrasaur and Meteor) so that Ultrasaur's health still matches Meteor's damage.

    • @fiprandom3783
      @fiprandom3783 3 месяца назад

      @@yogg-saron Ultrasaur is 7/14 now and I remember it always being 7/14, idk what's the buff
      For meteor, I just remember adjacent damage being buffed from 3 to 4
      Edit: maybe Ultrasaur was 8/12 and meteor 12 damage? that's the only thing that makes sense to me
      Edit2: searching on the wiki, it seems like meteor targeted damage was always 15 (unless it got buffed before being released). Seems like Ultrasaur also was always 7/14 but maybe it got a missing change on the wiki

    • @yogg-saron
      @yogg-saron 3 месяца назад

      @@fiprandom3783 nah bro, you're good, it's my memory being faulty here lol

    • @fiprandom3783
      @fiprandom3783 3 месяца назад

      @@yogg-saron tbh I also remembered an ultrasaur buff, but I think it was the jurassic size or whatever that card's name is

  • @Resil27021
    @Resil27021 3 месяца назад

    should make a powerpoint on hearthstone’s mine goblin archetype

  • @owenburgess1940
    @owenburgess1940 3 месяца назад

    1 hour of bloons music making me think dark thoughts

  • @popcornyumm
    @popcornyumm 3 месяца назад

    YOU LISTENED WHAT THANKS MAN

  • @Squid-King
    @Squid-King 3 месяца назад +2

    It's really upsetting when so many cool cards in a set with SUCH an awesome theme are just terrible. I have a Golden Jungle Giants that I pulled ages ago that I tried to make work, but never have been able to make it actually functional. Kalimos? Tried to make elemental shaman work for so long but only recently has it become 'playable'. Power creep is a wild concept

    • @Begeru
      @Begeru 3 месяца назад +1

      Kalimos does have a cool combo with Shudderblock

  • @ivankolobov9502
    @ivankolobov9502 3 месяца назад

    Pretty sure big Druid was a thing and Tyrantus was run there

  • @Shaddonius
    @Shaddonius 3 месяца назад

    Would it be possible to get some coverage on treasure cards? I was playing Dalaran Heist and I realized how much I missed them

  • @PenguinWithInternetAccess
    @PenguinWithInternetAccess 3 месяца назад

    The first hs expac I've played from day 1 (joined in gadgetzan) and even if it's not my favorite like KoFT or K&C it was definitely times i remember fondly (even if flappy bird murdered me multiple times)

  • @Zkeleton969
    @Zkeleton969 3 месяца назад +1

    *cough* dragons came out in blackrock *cough*

    • @FlareIsGone
      @FlareIsGone  3 месяца назад +2

      you're telling me malygos alex ysera faerie dragon werent dragons

    • @Zkeleton969
      @Zkeleton969 3 месяца назад

      @@FlareIsGone no, actually they weren't. I explicitly remember a argument on the forums about faerie dragon not being classified as dragon. It was actually classified as beast for a while.

    • @Begeru
      @Begeru 3 месяца назад

      @@Zkeleton969yes they were. They were all dragon tribe from the beginning

  • @NicolasPine
    @NicolasPine 2 месяца назад

    UnGoro was peak

  • @BernieDSniper
    @BernieDSniper 3 месяца назад

    Hey there, don't be scared my name is Ben Brode

  • @BIOHAZARD_V2
    @BIOHAZARD_V2 3 месяца назад

    It’s funny, I thought that the caverns below was good and shereazin was bad in ungoro lol

  • @kotaro77
    @kotaro77 3 месяца назад

    Ozruk was a 9 mana 5/5

  • @appropriatepeople
    @appropriatepeople 3 месяца назад

    Yawning during these PowerPoints is illegal.

  • @settrasurfs1780
    @settrasurfs1780 3 месяца назад

    Buffed jungle giants + scourge ragers makes it so that you can pretty consistently get barnabus on 5. It’s just that the deck is too slow for wild

  • @NattiNekoMaid
    @NattiNekoMaid 3 месяца назад

    Give Sherazin rush!

  • @IRDeady
    @IRDeady 2 месяца назад

    9:32 the game was super different back then. It was still a relatively new game and quests were a huge addition. Nobody really knew how to judge them because nobody understood how they would actually impact play. Sure, many people knew the marsh queen would suck, but if I'm not mistaken none of the big streamers or RUclipsrs predicted the caverns to be just a broken mess. Idk, you just kind of come off as arrogant when you act like people back then should have been able to have the exact same insite you have now all these years later. Like you have twice as much game history to look back on ad anyone did back then.

  • @ElDubberz
    @ElDubberz 3 месяца назад

    Hellll yeahhh great expansion you should make a discord for viewers

    • @FlareIsGone
      @FlareIsGone  3 месяца назад +1

      bro just does not read the more info tab

  • @AnshoYT
    @AnshoYT 3 месяца назад

    fire elemental in shaman classic

  • @jasonturney4798
    @jasonturney4798 3 месяца назад

    Holy molys

  • @aldroydf35
    @aldroydf35 3 месяца назад +3

    Good video and arguments about the cards as well as a nice talk about their viability, but exactly in 4:19 you said the name of a card wrong, so now your video is completely worthless and you should apologize immediately.

  • @salapao2526
    @salapao2526 3 месяца назад

    This expansion is why I played Hearthstone. I see dinosaurs, I dowload the game😅

  • @drew-horst
    @drew-horst 3 месяца назад

    Where monke

  • @FRAAANKYSUUUPER
    @FRAAANKYSUUUPER 3 месяца назад

    You getting enough sleep bro?

  • @davidjaureguijr.6171
    @davidjaureguijr.6171 3 месяца назад +3

    Man, 30 seconds in and no views, Flare has fallen off