2:30, nail is off center, 2:27 corrected. nice save. Good install, but I don't ever recall seeing anything in the duratechs install guide about silicone in between stove pipe lock joints?
Storm collar goes on top of insulation shield to prevent insulation from coming into contact with the pipe. There should be a storm collar on top of the flashing as well. They are required in both locations.
In other videos from This Old House they partially nailed into the roof, sealed it, finished nailing and ensured it was covered with sealant to weatherproof the penetrations. None of that here...why?
Why did they make such a large hole (and an oval). Also I would have wrapped that connection even if it had a special seal. Belt + Suspenders. Also, you know somewhere the roofers were probably screaming at them for how they sealed that and what not. Looked sloppy to me as well.
They needed 2inch clarence to combustibles. As for the oval hole the roof is slanted to if you was centered above the pipe it would be a circle 2inches bigger than the pipe on either side
He should not have even used screws. They make locking bands that go around the two sections to clamp them. The screw allows water to penetrate the pipe.
Can any uncovered pieces of fibreglass placed to insulate the cheminey (inside the cavity of the fire place) deteriorate the quality of air in the house?
Farcical instal or cheap system you decide. Should be spring clip joints. Twist together fitting good. Then you invalidate the system drilling into it. Manufacturer would supply pre drilled with fittings screws so someone doesn’t just tosh in a screw. Then worse still you also glue so can’t be serviced if a piece gets damaged. Decent system would have collar springs for each section, only place you cement & screw is the fitting for the flue to join your stove.
Sorry I should of watch it to the end they corrected themselves. Still the caulking around the pipe was sloppy. Length of pipe coming out the roof is based on the 10/2 rule. If the pipe is within 10 feet of the peak then it has to be 2 feet above that peak. If greater than 10' and you have a minimum of 14 feet total run (check your manual for minimum vent run) then the pipe can be about 4' above roof line.
@@jpatrick1967 it's based on the mfg of the pipe too. also a good installer will check/ask for normal wind direction to make sure the peaks/ other house structures doesn't affect draft. sometimes you will need to greatly exceed the minimum height to get a good draft in single story chimney when there is a 2nd story nearby.
I have a wood burning fireplace in my dining room and also goes to my basement. I want to remove the fireplace in my dining room without taking the basement one down. Can that be done?
I am installing a wood stove in my garage and there is no attic or crawl space above the ceiling. Trying to figure out how to see what is between the ceiling and the roof... how do you handle situations like this?
you use a stud finder then mark or cut a hole between two studs. maybe cut an entrance and install access door near the pipe location to get into attic.
@@rekostarr7149 That's not what he asked, Mr. Professional Homeowner. OP, what I recommend is to drill a small hole first enough for a camera to go into that space to survey. If you don't have a camera, just cut a small hole first that is easy to patch up.
It looks pretty standard to me. No problems that I see. I might use locking bands rather than a single self tapper, but thats me. The screw should work fine.
On any B vent or fireplace style direct vent pipe we Vulcum seal the roof flashing/pipe connection under the storm collar and then slide storm collar down and seal that connection too
I love how all the so called "experts" here in the comments are saying they did it wrong. How the hell would you guys know? I'm guessing 99% of you haven't installed something like this before.
How about during rainy season, the rain water merely goes straight down onto the hole. It should have been covered with tiny roof on top of the chimney at least 12 inches right above the edge of the chimney/hole.
Aare you serious? The storm collar goes over the roof flashing which also should be sealed underneath as an extra precaution. I am a licensed and insured mechanical contractor specializing in fireplaces for over 25 years.
Pretty sure that first storm collar was to close off the insulation shield to protect the engineered air space. Also, I’ll double check the install manual on DuraTech, but the flashing should be ventilated and not sealed. The upper storm collar provides the flexible needed while providing overlap to keep it dry.
@@FSGAMER35 well I ain't blind 😅 But the roofer guy is likely not ripping off that pipe flashing to do it properly. And if he doesn't it is going to leak soon
@@cgaccount3669more flashing didn't need to be added, but the bottom part of the flashing should be over the top of the roofing and the top part of the flashing should be under the roofing. Which means the roofer would have to pull the two nails they put in on the bottom to do it properly. Not that that would take a roofer more than a couple of seconds to do.
I do asphalt shingle roofing and I can get a pack of 10 gloves for $10. I'm not spending $20-30 for a pair of gloves that will get torn up in a day or two
Kevin has material over his rope! That he dragged under! At 3:10 in the video. Major safety hazard. If he slips and pulls on rope, pulls that section of pipe over top of him probably won't hurt him but if it falls off the roof! Piece is probably scrap. And kills anybody standing below roof at worst! This video is not a video I'd expect you all to keep up unless it's a warning to others we all learn on the job!
Canadian folks: Not up to code in Canada, and definitely NOT in Québec. So many don't do. Check with CCQ, and RBQ, underwise your insurance company won't cover for any loss due to a fire coming from your chimney system.
didnt mention code specifics, using the same brand of chimney pipe throughout is required, didn't silicone the flashing, didnt mention code specifics on the attic/roof or distance from combustable materials, didnt mentioned situations where one would use single wall stove pipe, chimney pipe, double wall triple wall, type A or type B pipe. etc etc
Code change from region to region. In some regions there's not even any codes. You can't even see if they did silicone or didn't silicone the flashing, but since this is a new roof install I don't see how this matters, unless it's code in your area. Most of This Old house videos aren't instructions videos on DIY step by step if you haven't figured it out by now. They are just in surface videos to give an idea. As an HVAC contractor though, class A chimney is one of the most dangerous chimney installs and needs to be done by someone that has either researched the clearances and can climb roofs, or leave it to a pro.
This is a reputable channel and I normally trust the material here. But this install has so many mistakes, as others have pointed out, that I don’t know where to start. Please remove this video before it does more harm.
@Joe Kinchicken Where the hell? Your reaction is a little extreme don't you think? I have natural gas. But for you to assume the entire planet does is naive. And an ice storm in Quebec or natural disaster in NY shows areas can be without power for weeks at a time. That's why Quebec had a surge in wood fireplace installations. If you think it'll never happen to you well I hope you're lucky because you're living in denial. There are a number of ways your local power grid can go down. And without power you can't use fans etc. Now you'll tell me everyone has solar power since it's so cheap and efficient lol.
@Joe Kinchicken I know. But without a fan the heating capability is extremely reduced since heat can't be blown around the home. I guess if you have a bunch of gas fireplaces it's better than nothing. I also wonder if the gas pipelines need electricity? If not the pipes the monitors must?
Loving the comments about poor installation - plenty of bloopers in there but the first mistake is in the video title: "Insulated chimney" - which basically means the heat from the fire is being piped straight outside and not being allowed to heat the house ! If you want to install heating with a flame that needs a chimney - you know they've got it wrong if the chimney comes out the top !
can you rephrase because you are not comprehensible at all: ''If you want to install heating with a flame that needs a chimney - you know they've got it wrong if the chimney comes out the top !''
Nice of them to nail the flashing down tight to the roof before it gets shingled in properly. Idiots. Didn't even use a roof support package. Sloppy half assed work if I've ever seen.
2:30, nail is off center, 2:27 corrected. nice save. Good install, but I don't ever recall seeing anything in the duratechs install guide about silicone in between stove pipe lock joints?
@M never thought of doing that! 👍
Now how did you get that square peg through that round hole. Must be movie magic. 02:48
Came here just to say wtf?!
It's just light-gauge sheet metal--can be bent, and bent back, easily.
WTF, 4:51 they put the storm collar first? Lmao
Looks like they edited out the part where they removed it
Storm collar goes on top of insulation shield to prevent insulation from coming into contact with the pipe. There should be a storm collar on top of the flashing as well. They are required in both locations.
In other videos from This Old House they partially nailed into the roof, sealed it, finished nailing and ensured it was covered with sealant to weatherproof the penetrations. None of that here...why?
Maybe because the roofing wasn't completed perhaps here and that's the roofer's job to go over it with the shingles?!
2000 degree flexible adhesive sealant... any example of brands?
"Mill-Pac Black" was the product used in this video. I know it's been two years but if anyone else comes along hopefully it'll help them.
Why did they make such a large hole (and an oval). Also I would have wrapped that connection even if it had a special seal. Belt + Suspenders. Also, you know somewhere the roofers were probably screaming at them for how they sealed that and what not. Looked sloppy to me as well.
They needed 2inch clarence to combustibles. As for the oval hole the roof is slanted to if you was centered above the pipe it would be a circle 2inches bigger than the pipe on either side
Nah, you ain’t seen “sloppy”. May not look purdy, but that is rock solid. That’ll hold up in high wind and heavy snow with no probs.
@@は私です彼の名前 my chimney support pipes bent after 1 winter. They're pretty strong so I can't imagine the snow load weight to do that. But it did
@@turnipking5152 BS, way too big, unnecessary, they had over 4 inches of clearance.
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Why does the tie down get zipped in before the shingles... asking for a friend.
Dumb question, dont attempt to do it if you are asking such a question.
Cause its a new roof....old roofs just go over the shingle with plenty of silicone under tie down and screws.
@@tombryan1 Dumb answer. Don't attempt to respond unless you're going to actually help someone with an answer.
What did you use as sealant for the chimney pipe???
Is the black thing for water proofing?
At 4:11 he states roof pitch is 5 Deg (which is a flat roof)....roof is actually 5:12
"Let's try and make sure the seam is to the back"
drives in a screw right in the front.
Lol I was thinking the exact same thing 😅 all well no one would ever notice after the fact !
He should not have even used screws. They make locking bands that go around the two sections to clamp them. The screw allows water to penetrate the pipe.
Gotta be fun roofing around the bracket mounts
Can any uncovered pieces of fibreglass placed to insulate the cheminey (inside the cavity of the fire place) deteriorate the quality of air in the house?
Farcical instal or cheap system you decide.
Should be spring clip joints. Twist together fitting good. Then you invalidate the system drilling into it. Manufacturer would supply pre drilled with fittings screws so someone doesn’t just tosh in a screw. Then worse still you also glue so can’t be serviced if a piece gets damaged.
Decent system would have collar springs for each section, only place you cement & screw is the fitting for the flue to join your stove.
Sorry I should of watch it to the end they corrected themselves. Still the caulking around the pipe was sloppy. Length of pipe coming out the roof is based on the 10/2 rule. If the pipe is within 10 feet of the peak then it has to be 2 feet above that peak. If greater than 10' and you have a minimum of 14 feet total run (check your manual for minimum vent run) then the pipe can be about 4' above roof line.
Not every town has the same rules. Maybe check where they are before commenting.
@@jpatrick1967 it's based on the mfg of the pipe too. also a good installer will check/ask for normal wind direction to make sure the peaks/ other house structures doesn't affect draft. sometimes you will need to greatly exceed the minimum height to get a good draft in single story chimney when there is a 2nd story nearby.
Joe in Kentucky just put it up 4 feet and said that's good.
I have a wood burning fireplace in my dining room and also goes to my basement. I want to remove the fireplace in my dining room without taking the basement one down. Can that be done?
Why was caulk used at some connections but not others?
I think the house I’m buying has asbestos around the chimney pipe. What will it cost to replace?
did y'all see he just spread that caulk with his glove? @5:24 that made me cringe. bye bye gloves! lol
Haha, I cringed too. May have been nerves being on camera.
whats cheeper block chimney or triple lare pipe chemney
List of materials please?
I am installing a wood stove in my garage and there is no attic or crawl space above the ceiling. Trying to figure out how to see what is between the ceiling and the roof... how do you handle situations like this?
you use a stud finder then mark or cut a hole between two studs. maybe cut an entrance and install access door near the pipe location to get into attic.
@@rekostarr7149 That's not what he asked, Mr. Professional Homeowner. OP, what I recommend is to drill a small hole first enough for a camera to go into that space to survey. If you don't have a camera, just cut a small hole first that is easy to patch up.
Nothing like a British brick chimney. No character
Chimney are so 2010.
Heat pump all the way....
Looks good.
anyone gonna talk about that stripped screw at 5:34
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that.
Terrific Scabmanship
1 inch wall hmm, over here in quebec canada 2 inch wall is required and even then many companies wont insure a wood heated home...
Holy cow what a sloppy disaster of an installation. Half-assed and guaranteed to leak in about a month.
No it isn't. Its exactly how you do it. I assume you are a troll. Or you don't realize the roof needs to be shingled after the installation.
It looks pretty standard to me. No problems that I see. I might use locking bands rather than a single self tapper, but thats me. The screw should work fine.
On any B vent or fireplace style direct vent pipe we Vulcum seal the roof flashing/pipe connection under the storm collar and then slide storm collar down and seal that connection too
I'm saying!
I'm saying!
I love how all the so called "experts" here in the comments are saying they did it wrong. How the hell would you guys know? I'm guessing 99% of you haven't installed something like this before.
It doesn't take an expert to know that spreading caulk with a work glove is a sign of a poor contractor.
I have and the video seems correct.
Exactly .... 😂😂
I have installed hundreds of these and the installation of this video is WRONG!!!
How about during rainy season, the rain water merely goes straight down onto the hole. It should have been covered with tiny roof on top of the chimney at least 12 inches right above the edge of the chimney/hole.
The roof isn't done. Cant you see that?
Aare you serious? The storm collar goes over the roof flashing which also should be sealed underneath as an extra precaution. I am a licensed and insured mechanical contractor specializing in fireplaces for over 25 years.
Pretty sure that first storm collar was to close off the insulation shield to protect the engineered air space. Also, I’ll double check the install manual on DuraTech, but the flashing should be ventilated and not sealed. The upper storm collar provides the flexible needed while providing overlap to keep it dry.
I believe John Cunningham is absolutely correct.
So contractors always do a good job lol? And keep up with the latest manufacturing recommendations?
Good job guys
Kept cutting away when more details needed and or when mistakes were made.
Quality of video going down guys what happens why I like your show
Thats going to leak water in no time.
Super sloppy work.
And the last covers around the roof looks horrendous
tullgutten roof not finished by the looks of it
@@FSGAMER35 well I ain't blind 😅
But the roofer guy is likely not ripping off that pipe flashing to do it properly.
And if he doesn't it is going to leak soon
Not sure what people are talking about. The roofer part of the job wasn't shown. More flashing could be added after the shingles go on
@@cgaccount3669 they dont apply roof flashing ON the PIPE.....
The work on the pipe part sucks ball#
@@cgaccount3669more flashing didn't need to be added, but the bottom part of the flashing should be over the top of the roofing and the top part of the flashing should be under the roofing. Which means the roofer would have to pull the two nails they put in on the bottom to do it properly. Not that that would take a roofer more than a couple of seconds to do.
Prefer my fires outside where I can enjoy the smell and open flame.
Raw Bacon I also prefer to be able to sleep at night with out a fire risk.
I like chimneys but usually dont feel the need for fire risk since I have standard central air and heat.
Raw Bacon not in 15f degree weather
STOVEPIPE!!!!
Not exactly the same challenge as flying to a fully built established house.
WTF??? He smeared the silicone with his work gloves!!! Does he charge enough that he just throws them away between jobs?!?!?!
Don Abele Maybe he has fun peeling it off in his down time?
@@は私です彼の名前 Like sunburned skin...ewwwwww...
Who cares about the gloves. The sealant was smeared all over the chimney. Sloppy, very Sloppy.
I do asphalt shingle roofing and I can get a pack of 10 gloves for $10. I'm not spending $20-30 for a pair of gloves that will get torn up in a day or two
Kevin has material over his rope! That he dragged under! At 3:10 in the video. Major safety hazard. If he slips and pulls on rope, pulls that section of pipe over top of him probably won't hurt him but if it falls off the roof! Piece is probably scrap. And kills anybody standing below roof at worst! This video is not a video I'd expect you all to keep up unless it's a warning to others we all learn on the job!
Canadian folks: Not up to code in Canada, and definitely NOT in Québec. So many don't do. Check with CCQ, and RBQ, underwise your insurance company won't cover for any loss due to a fire coming from your chimney system.
always get a pro for this its the law
Depends on your township code. You can do it yourself, but you need to pull a permit with pretty detailed plans. Then you need to have it inspected.
Yikes. Bet TOH never calls them again
Exactly, they did a good job. A callback is something you don't want as a contractor. Leave it to a professional homeowner that hacks everything in.
I guess you really gota go through the wall
didnt mention code specifics, using the same brand of chimney pipe throughout is required, didn't silicone the flashing, didnt mention code specifics on the attic/roof or distance from combustable materials, didnt mentioned situations where one would use single wall stove pipe, chimney pipe, double wall triple wall, type A or type B pipe. etc etc
Code change from region to region. In some regions there's not even any codes. You can't even see if they did silicone or didn't silicone the flashing, but since this is a new roof install I don't see how this matters, unless it's code in your area. Most of This Old house videos aren't instructions videos on DIY step by step if you haven't figured it out by now. They are just in surface videos to give an idea. As an HVAC contractor though, class A chimney is one of the most dangerous chimney installs and needs to be done by someone that has either researched the clearances and can climb roofs, or leave it to a pro.
This is a reputable channel and I normally trust the material here. But this install has so many mistakes, as others have pointed out, that I don’t know where to start. Please remove this video before it does more harm.
Hey how do you know that's a female connection what if it wants to be called a table?
Maybe paper in the whole roof before you install
Why did they bother to bring the chimney up through the house, surely would have been easier and better looking to just come straight outside then up
Less bends the better. And interior chimneys are considered best for retaining heat in the home.
Ugh.
I still prefer Direct Vent Gas.
Wood is best for emergencies. If the power is out you can still live. And gas isn't available everywhere
@Joe Kinchicken Where the hell? Your reaction is a little extreme don't you think? I have natural gas. But for you to assume the entire planet does is naive. And an ice storm in Quebec or natural disaster in NY shows areas can be without power for weeks at a time. That's why Quebec had a surge in wood fireplace installations. If you think it'll never happen to you well I hope you're lucky because you're living in denial. There are a number of ways your local power grid can go down. And without power you can't use fans etc. Now you'll tell me everyone has solar power since it's so cheap and efficient lol.
@Joe Kinchicken I know. But without a fan the heating capability is extremely reduced since heat can't be blown around the home. I guess if you have a bunch of gas fireplaces it's better than nothing. I also wonder if the gas pipelines need electricity? If not the pipes the monitors must?
The guy explaining this is raw animal sex appeal
Loving the comments about poor installation - plenty of bloopers in there but the first mistake is in the video title: "Insulated chimney" - which basically means the heat from the fire is being piped straight outside and not being allowed to heat the house !
If you want to install heating with a flame that needs a chimney - you know they've got it wrong if the chimney comes out the top !
How do you heat the house with the chimney?
@@HollywoodCreeper Light a fire beneath it.
can you rephrase because you are not comprehensible at all: ''If you want to install heating with a flame that needs a chimney - you know they've got it wrong if the chimney comes out the top !''
@@rekostarr7149 Which bit of English are you having difficulty with ?
@@millomweb none of this comment makes sense, you should go back to secondary school for some help
Unbelievable.....
look at all the safety sht
😃👍🏻👊🏻
That roof is not even
Stip y harnest 😂 pussycats
5/12 pitch is not anywhere near "five degrees". And he's supposed to be an expert??
Nice of them to nail the flashing down tight to the roof before it gets shingled in properly. Idiots. Didn't even use a roof support package. Sloppy half assed work if I've ever seen.
😂😅 what a installation!!! My 5 year old can do better!!!😂😂😂
"poipe"? I know what New England state he's from.
That looks hideous!! If I bought that house with that I would remove it. Then you call it professional when you caulk with gloves🙄
E-Rock It is not finished. Usually the carpenters come in and build a clabbord box around it...or brick. Duh.
He probably wiped it with gloves because he was in a rush with people filming him
Wtf are these guys doing?