The way I was taught to remember the East and West cardinal marks is to think of the arrows as the sun reflecting off the water. The East marker top triangle is pointing up just like the sun rising in the East, the West marker has the sun setting. The horizon is between the 2 triangles, if that makes sense. In reference to the isolated danger mark (plus day marks on barges etc), the same guy also said he has a young daughter and anything with 2 balls is dangerous
This is going to help a lot people I am sure. A retired gentleman recently said to me, there are two types of boaties on Moreton bay, those that have run aground before, and liars lol
For cardinal marker lights I imagine a compass rose overlayed on a clock face. East is at 3 o'clock so three flashes, South at 6 o'clock so 6 flashes, etc.
One thing I've noticed in my small amount of boating experience in the past 12 months is a large number of people don't seem to travel on the correct side of a channel, relative to the oncoming traffic. That is, on the right side, letting oncoming watercraft pass on your left. Highly frustrating when you're being squeezed up against a marker trying to stay on the right side.
That has always been the case. I just go with the flow, if they want to keep left then so do I, no sense fighting about it. The number one rule is to avoid a collision.
Thank you. Already done the best I can. The video is based on CSIRO research into tidal movements and there were gracious enough to allow me to use their images. ruclips.net/video/loTrYMomTRo/видео.html It only covers the central and northern bay. Even the CSIRO couldn't work out the southern bay, too many islands.
Hi, On the West Cardinal Mark, I remember in my early days of boating that I used the Wineglass outline as a quick referance to the West Cardinal Marker. Hence the East marker was easily identified, because as you said, the North and South markers are obvious by the markings. Also I think that when there is more than one of the same Cardinal Marker in close approximation/area, the light sequence changes to identify each marker.
Wineglass = W = West. Good one, love it. I didn't know that the sequence changed if there was more than one in close proximity. I'll have to check the flash sequences on my old paper maps if I can find one with two of the same cardinal marks close together.
@@weFishAU I could be wrong on lights. I checked the ones around Mud Island, as against some others further down the bay. I do think in most cases they are the same. Anyway I realy appreciate your Videos. Looking forward to seeing more of them.
Thank you. I was planning an overnight fishing trip trying some really cool stuff. Should be out on the water now but work got in the way. Just as well I have some other material almost ready to go.
Ive always remembered East cardinal marks this way .... the triangles face the same way they would were you looking at elevator buttons. E for Elevator is also E for East.
You're right, it would have been. I was concentrating on giving hints on how to remember which one it was that I didn't think about boaties not knowing what they were in general.
When your charts fell into water, red n green . Remember when meeting another boat we follow Euro driving on opposite side of the road Long flash is north, 3 is east, 6 south etc
That's why I have 2 x GPS units, 1 x Navionics on my phone and 2 sets of paper charts, unlikely to ever be caught without a chart. :-) But you are correct about keeping right in a channel, except when the other boat thinks he is driving on an Australian road, then I do whatever I need to do to keep clear of him.
The way I was taught to remember the East and West cardinal marks is to think of the arrows as the sun reflecting off the water. The East marker top triangle is pointing up just like the sun rising in the East, the West marker has the sun setting.
The horizon is between the 2 triangles, if that makes sense.
In reference to the isolated danger mark (plus day marks on barges etc), the same guy also said he has a young daughter and anything with 2 balls is dangerous
I do get it and I like it. Quite clever.
Love his idea on isolated danger.
Legendary 💥. You have a excellent perfect kind of late night radio voice..
LOL, thank you!
This is going to help a lot people I am sure. A retired gentleman recently said to me, there are two types of boaties on Moreton bay, those that have run aground before, and liars lol
LOL. Love his sense of humour, but there is an element of truth in it as well.
I found a bar in my tinnie at 10 knots on my 3rd trip ever, lol. Lucky I had the outboard tilt lock set correctly to allow it to raise on impact :)
Easily done when you are new to boating. As Beyond the Backyard said, there are two types of boaties.
For cardinal marker lights I imagine a compass rose overlayed on a clock face. East is at 3 o'clock so three flashes, South at 6 o'clock so 6 flashes, etc.
That is a excellent memory aid as well.
For cardinal markers the army taught wine cups in the west and diamond's in the east, never fogot it after 35 years
That is also a good one. I find that any memory aid like that helps me remember things.
One thing I've noticed in my small amount of boating experience in the past 12 months is a large number of people don't seem to travel on the correct side of a channel, relative to the oncoming traffic. That is, on the right side, letting oncoming watercraft pass on your left. Highly frustrating when you're being squeezed up against a marker trying to stay on the right side.
That has always been the case. I just go with the flow, if they want to keep left then so do I, no sense fighting about it. The number one rule is to avoid a collision.
@@weFishAU Good philosophy, thanks
Fantastic videos, wondering if you would do a video showing tidal current movements for Nth and another for Central and then Southern ?
Thank you. Already done the best I can. The video is based on CSIRO research into tidal movements and there were gracious enough to allow me to use their images. ruclips.net/video/loTrYMomTRo/видео.html It only covers the central and northern bay. Even the CSIRO couldn't work out the southern bay, too many islands.
Can I make a quick suggestion. One thing I was taught was "East" is like and "Easter Egg". It helps me remember it easily.
That is another good memory aid. I like it.
Hi, On the West Cardinal Mark, I remember in my early days of boating that I used the Wineglass outline as a quick referance to the West Cardinal Marker. Hence the East marker was easily identified, because as you said, the North and South markers are obvious by the markings. Also I think that when there is more than one of the same Cardinal Marker in close approximation/area, the light sequence changes to identify each marker.
Wineglass = W = West. Good one, love it.
I didn't know that the sequence changed if there was more than one in close proximity. I'll have to check the flash sequences on my old paper maps if I can find one with two of the same cardinal marks close together.
@@weFishAU I could be wrong on lights. I checked the ones around Mud Island, as against some others further down the bay. I do think in most cases they are the same. Anyway I realy appreciate your Videos. Looking forward to seeing more of them.
Thank you. I was planning an overnight fishing trip trying some really cool stuff. Should be out on the water now but work got in the way. Just as well I have some other material almost ready to go.
Yep, gps chart plotters with a comprehensive Navionics database, have made marine nav simple & safe. Good point regarding a physical chart though.
Sure has, I would hate to go back to just relying on charts and landmarks to find the fishing spots.
So true, we take it for granted!There’s a generation that don’t know anything different.
A tip for the east cardinal is it sort of looks like an EASTer egg
That is another good memory aid.
A drunk sailor told me there is no RED PORT LEFT. 😊
😀 LOL.
Ive always remembered East cardinal marks this way .... the triangles face the same way they would were you looking at elevator buttons. E for Elevator is also E for East.
Thank you. I love hearing all these little memory tricks others use.
What is a cardinal beacon.. That would have been a useful piece of information.
You're right, it would have been. I was concentrating on giving hints on how to remember which one it was that I didn't think about boaties not knowing what they were in general.
Wouldn’t it be simple and easy just to put E for east W for west and so on
Too easy :-)
@@weFishAU I thought that would be the case
The sun rises in the east so 🔺️ points up.
When your charts fell into water, red n green . Remember when meeting another boat we follow Euro driving on opposite side of the road
Long flash is north, 3 is east, 6 south etc
That's why I have 2 x GPS units, 1 x Navionics on my phone and 2 sets of paper charts, unlikely to ever be caught without a chart. :-)
But you are correct about keeping right in a channel, except when the other boat thinks he is driving on an Australian road, then I do whatever I need to do to keep clear of him.
Honestly didn't understand anything