The Answer is ALWAYS Caliber! 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT4 Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2021
- i cant believe how just how Underrated the caliber srt4 is! its hands down one of the best hatches/wagon hybrids of the last few decades.
and now its finally getting the attention it deserves 
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not always caliber , the neon sounds better handles more power and torque . it's just has that raw feel to it that a race car should have lol
respectfully ....coming from one who has the both
Neon SRT-4 sounds better than pretty much any 4 cylinder IMO. There have been some other beastly sounding 4 cylinders I've heard over the years, but pound for pound, NEON SRT!!
My little SRT made it to 300k miles until 2 months ago, she was a good lady to me considering she was my only car that had been daily driven since she had 13 miles on odometer from the showroom!!
I wouldnt say these are the most reliable cars but they are fun. Other problem is they crack the blocks.
Yeah. They are typical Fiat garbage.
I got one stage 1, some issues with suspension et direction often but a part from that i absolutly love it
How much hp
They were underrated as hell. They ripped.
Bahahahahahahaha!!
@@michaelp7617 Bahahahahahahahhhhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahah
@@sdunn0417 Enjoy your cheap POS Fiat. Hope your AAA is up to date. Ten years ago they put this POS out to pasture. Weird there are clueless morons still buying them. Congratulations.
Nice bro ! Happy to see another one
I bought mine back in 2016 still have it with 125K miles, STILL bone stock, and no issues.
Same I have an 08 with 70k miles. Only additions are cosmetic.
I loved my caliber srt4
The curb weight is 3189 for the caliber. 2900 for the neon.
My SRT6 is 3239, rear wheel with 330hp from the factory, and MAN does she eat SRT4s of both series for lunch and dinner.
Was crazy I got that engine in my Chrysler sebring 2007 manual and almost every fit my car 😂😂💯
Daamn still look so sweet! I also have Caliber and people still look on it be like new prototype. :D
LOL
I've had mine since '12, though I haven't driven it much since '17. They are reliable, but with limited production around 6500, parts are getting very scarce when something does actually break. A lot of things will have to come from a donor car or junkyard/ebay.
@Muzik Michael would happen to name some websites for this car
5,674 Caliber SRT4's were produced.
Parts ARE hard to come by.
@Muzik Michael Try to stay with the Class.
Talking about the Caliber SRT4 here, not the BASE models.
@@yukonstriker1703 I'm pretty sure there are companies that make aftermarket parts for this car
@@irlredline7965most definitely, could even have a custom part made… considering having a rare car they might wanna have the money tho😭😭.
I have a caliber just not this model, it also has the phone holder and glove box cooler, the only thing I’m jealous of are the flip down speakers. Totally wish I had that 🤣
Me 2
Bgb
I love the look on peoples faces when i ask them if they would like a cold drink after being on the road for an hour. 🤨😮
With crossovers and SUVs Dodge should come out with the next gen of this model. Now is the right time for one heck even Chrysler could go next gen PT Cruiser.
you can put your shades inside the ipod holder
Dream daily driver. I have a magnum srt8 already, and it's fun as fuck, but it's not good on gas obviously. So I wanna get a srt4 caliber for a daily.
Just bought one today👍 2008
Love mine hidden in a barn for now. Will bring her back out in a couple years.
I love my caliber srt4. I actually just bought another and have one with very low mileage that's been totaled. But have the whole drive train. I actually have decided to take the turbo set up off the wrecked one when I build the motor to handle more. Even putting both intercoolers.. one up and one lower.
My daily driver one is no slouch.. it been tuned with few extra goodies pushing 315hp.
@@martybrowning6702 And worth less then a bag of groceries.
@@michaelp7617 Does it really matter what it's worth to you you don't have to drive it lol
@@Bobcatspiritdude And thank God for that. I pity anyone who has to drive those POS’s.
@@Bobcatspiritdude Lol
Man its my birthday and I'm early
Love these people who comment about reliability, quality, and origins of the caliber who have no clue what they are talking about. For starters virtually nothing on the engine is compatible with the neon except injectors. The engine is not a "Hyundai" engine, it is a world engine co-developed by chrysler, Mitsubishi, and Hyundai, not much is interchangeable between them but rod bearings and the evox oil pump can be used (maybe a few other things). Also, Fiat had nothing to do with the caliber, it started with the terrible Daimler merger, and yes the interior is crap, but hey all the Chrysler vehicles of that time were. The interior was updated in 2010 after the Fiat merger and was way better, not great, but leaps better than the cheap crap Daimler had them use. The only thing unreliable about these things is the owner, these cars are a super simple design and extremely easy to work on.
2010 dodge caliber yes it's not perfomance car but i like it repairing anything with it is easy and simple most spare parts are available and affordable compared to other models
100% ive had mine almost basically from new.
Fully built motor now and AGP Zeta kit later.
It’s still awesome, it’s worth more too me now then anyone else.
She sleeps during the winter now.
I have a 2010 mainstreet
Good video. Minus they are not reliable. I’ve had 3. Sleeves crack and the bottom end is then junk. It also does not come with a limited slip diff. Mines a fully built rt700 motor by realtune. Was at 500 whp before I pulled the to paint the bay and swap the turbo. Going for 600whp this season.
Did you buy a full rebuild kit from them?
Where did you cop
got an insta?
Does a built version of these blocks solve the reliability issues?
280hp+ and NO lsd?!?
I drive a stock 2.1 litre caliber sxt and its the same stock color as the one you reviewed
Want one of these, also wish the avenger had an srt model
Only thing in common between the Neon SRT4 and Caliber SRT4 motors is the 2.4L displacement.
They share 'NO' components.
Precisely engineered ?
Dude... Neon has a CLOSED DECK, Caliber is open deck!
Prone to cracking sleeves!
Your obvious Sarcasm is killing me haha ;P
Also yes they may be reliable, and well so is the neon but little do you know that when you start to give the Caliber srt4 goodys it will hate you, and the neon will love you. They may be reliable but reliable if you leave them stock and don’t play with them, where as the neon it’s reliable and love to get parts thrown at it.
Its 240whp 260-270wtq out of the factory for stock neon srt-4's. That 215 number isn't quite correct. That's why stock for stock, neon srt-4 demolishes the caliber srt-4 in performance. The caliber is absolutely the replacement however per PVO plans an execution. They're killer platforums and really can't compare to neons as they are both different imo.
Woooooo very nice... 👍👍👍👍
I have both the neon srt4 and caliber srt4... they share no parts at all.
Should i buy one or no?
I'm a caliber expert had a sxt in 2007 til now. It's very reliable with good maintenance and there very easy to fix. Engine is great design for small car and in 2021 there still not that much different than altima or corrolla.
Caliber expert is nothing to be proud of.
This video was pure sarcasm dude!
Just got one 2 weeks ago for a steal. Lots of fun
I’m thinking of getting one. How much did you spend on yours??
@@LetttuceMan I paid 3100
@@abepenner4714 great find, my dude. I found a red '09 SRT4 for 2500. Rough body but immaculate engine + mopar stage 1 tune. 150K miles sitting in sixth on the highway most of its life. Spent maybe 2500 restoring brakes/suspension/windshield/doors/hood. Now, it handles stops and rips like new. Always wanted one as a kid so I'm cheezin.
Next up is a paint job. I'm thinking white.
I drill a 1/4 inch hole on both my thermostat on my caliber and I drove over 150 miles at 80 miles per hours with air condition and my engine never overheat and I can place my hands on the engine without it burns me...
5:12 😂 exactly my problems
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
"it comes with a flip phone holder" lol
Rust buckets. Front and rear sub frames rot out quick . Scrap yards are full of them for this reason. Run.
Ok google says the cars are only 200lbs apart. Neon srt4 2900lbs caliber srt4 3100, horsepower is off somewhere too google says neon srt4 is 280 and caliber is 285. Can someone please explain?
1 year later first time seeing May 5 2022
No SRT-4 here but I got an 08 SXT Sport Wagon with 72,000 original miles and a couple issues but pretty solid. Why does everyone have a different story of changing the transmission fluid
I had a 2008 Dodge Journey. This experience made me never want to own a Dodge again.
cant compare a dodge journey to a caliber srt4 man its like comparing a ford windstar van to a ford mustang
@@MrRandomReviews True, but it is still a Caliber. Not good looking.
That argument made no sense whatsoever lol
@@SataniaMcDowel Im not saying new RAM trucks or new Dodge Durangos etc arent any good, theyre fine trucks! I mean I just dont have good experiences with 00-era Dodge cars
My NSRT4 is your huckleberry
It's my choice, simply because my 6'4" headass is tired of leaning all the way down to get into shorter cars.
The right choice, thus far. I will make it hurt feelings for sure 😈
Where did you find that trans
I love my srt4 I had a neon srt4 but the caliber makes the neon look like a neon lol
love it
I've always like this little guy and loved that they did an AWD version of it.
Dodge never made an AWD CSRT-4
@@yukonstriker1703 I'm assuming he was talking about the AWD version of the R/T.
I thought the PT Cruiser was the Neon replacement ._.
I LIKE THE CALIBER BUT THERE'S WAAAAY MORE AFTERMARKET SUPPORT FOR THE NEON WHICH MEANS U CAN MAKE A NEON ALWAYS SPANK A CALIBER IF U REALLY WANTED BUT THE CALIBERS ARE NEAT TOO LBVS
Sweeter then my sxt, need to upgrade the parts...lol
So that’s funny don’t get me wrong Caliber srt4 are sick but. Sorry to burst your bobble but you are wrong that is what dodge said the neon was 215hp but actually it was 250hp with 275 foot pounds of torque. Also the 0 to 60 in the neon srt4 was 5.2 seconds so that’s a little better then 5.9.
You don't need cursing and swearing
you must be 10 years old
What hood is that
Owner kinda ruined the car exteruor but csrt4 truly is a great car
wow you can read the brochure
Not sure about the SRT version, but regular Caliber were garbage. Not that normal neons weren’t great but I had one with No A/C and oil leaks that lasted 200K .
Awesome mpv
Ohhh que bueno 👍
The caliber is 3100lbs where did you get 1000lb difference ?
Pretty sure he meant 100 lbs
Nice👍🏻
My dodge avenger had the cooler 😂😂😂 I love it especially living in Houston
Just bought an 08 with a mere 135k. Ohletzdooooothis
You forgot to add since you don’t own one that they grenade their blocks once you start beating on them.
How does it stack against a focus ST?
Focus st is newer so it’s better but I like the look of the caliber more
@@PooPoo-oz4yt hell nah 😂 focus st slow as shit compared to this
That was good satire.
06 pt cruiser gt high out put
My ex wife had one, oh i'm. Very very familiar with it. Garbage
An srt4 or otherwise?
The car or the wife 🤣
You're definitely talking about your ex wife 😂😂
NSRT4 on top
I have a 2007 caliber and 2010. The 07 is the cheapest model but it gets 25.5 miles per gallon and 0 to 60 in 5 seconds. The 2010 is the mid grade. Only gets 25 miles per gallon and 28 seconds 0 to 60. No performant parts.
And i cant even get mine to work properly
I thought they come with a v8 for some reason
Only saw caliber on the street. I wonder how many caliber srts were made?
Not that many roughly 2-3 thousand roughly for the us I’m keeping an eye out for one.
@@yubeeeep there is some srt4 Cali FB groups with them for sale pretty often sub 10k
Not alot, I have one of 160 in the color I've got
There was 5674 made 1245 were in Canada there’s a registry for the car I own number 3536
@@yubeeeep I have one you can buy
Magnum was better imo
Wowww me gusta 👍👍👍
The way you comment videos is similar to regular car reviews
Boy, where does someone start...
There are no shared parts between the NSRT4 and CST4 engines. None. They are both intercooled inline-4 turbocharged engines. That's about as similar as it gets.
The 2005 NSRT4 advertised power was a hilarious joke, and everyone who tested it knew they underrated it. Actual flywheel power is estimated to be 255-265 hp(190-198 kW) and 260-270 lb-ft torque. This was supported by more than a dozen independent review dyno tests, NOT owners, but journalists. The Caliber dynoed between 260 and 280, 260 would be closer to correct with parasitic drivetrain loss, but 280 would indicate underrating. Either way, the idea that there is some 70 hp difference is incorrect. You might be correct by stating "advertised" but in reality the power is a LOT closer.
Would you like to discuss handling, both on curves and uneven surfaces? The original press event for the Caliber SRT4 was done on a glass-smooth racetrack, and reports came back of greatly improved handling. In the months that followed, as journalists got ahold of the car for independent reviewed, that all changed. The handling was abysmal. For obvious reasons, as the car was top heavy. But there were also lots of complaints about ride quality. You also sit up very high in the car, it's like sitting in truck bench seats. That might be alright for a bigger guy I guess, but for sports car enthusiasts, that's a big downgrade. Braking and skidpad numbers are also worse, because again, heavier car with a higher center of gravity.
"Compared to the SRT4 Neon this thing is a million times better" very VERY few people believe that. Even the PVO team HATED the Caliber, you know, the team that actually built it? The SRT version of the Caliber was 18 months late to the showroom floor due to multiple issues. When asked what was taking so long on the SRTforums PVO chat session, the exact response was "The term polishing a turd comes to mind". A Chrysler engineer was asked at the unveiling about the really bad ride and handling of the CSRT4, and the response? "Garbage in, garbage out". Quite telling. (the 18 month wait was due to multiple issues, most involved with the placement of 'go fast' parts in the engine bay
If you remain unconvinced, take a look at the purchase prices currently for the vehicles. The average cost online right now for a Caliber SRT4 sits at just above $9,000. The average cost of the Neon SRT4 is just under $16,000.
The one key point someone can make about the Caliber version is that the Getrag transmission is far and away better than the T850 slushbox from New Venture Gear. In fact, NVG is out of business, and Getrag is still kicking strong. It is unfortunate that DaimlerChrysler went away from a trusted supplied that they had used for DECADES in Getrag, and went with NVG, who chose to use inferior materials in their transmission to supposedly "avoid issues" then owners found out that after about 80k miles, you had issues because the softer parts were damaged.
Here's the thing, I don't think the Caliber SRT4 is a bad car. In fact, i was ready, money in hand, to purchase one in 2006, then they were delayed, then they were delayed again. In a straight line, the Caliber would hold its own but still lose by a couple car lengths in 0-60 and/or quarter. But on a track it's not a contest. Especially if you had the ACR version of the NSRT4, you'd run circles around the Caliber. Overall quality, you might have an argument that the Caliber was a better put together car as far as fit and placement. That honestly doesn't make up for everything else though.
The SRT team did a good job with the Caliber, based on what they started with, but it was a bad replacement for the Neon. And that is why one is considered a legend, and the other is an oddity that to this day is really out of place in the compact sport car market.
I have twin girls been looking for a new car I wonder how two car seats in the back rear facing with me being 6 feet tall if I would have room
Works just fine
So basically swap this motor into an srt 4?
sure, if you want a less reliable motor, with a smaller aftermarket and not nearly as much performance potential. Or you could just put a tune/bolt ons on the neon and make just as much power if not more than the swap would do.
Basically an evo, it’s a 4b12 instead of 4b11 and the caliber is a 2.4L instead of a 2.0
uh no.. its not basically an evo lmao. Completely different engine components, fwd drivetrain, on a chrystler chasis. It is however a competitor to mazdaspeed 3 and gti which is admerable, but an evo would blow the doors off this thing in stock form. And is capable of handling MUCH more power.
@@johnsullivan937 then why can one adapt the evo x valve cover/exhaust manifold/clutch/flywheel/transmission/transfer case/rear diff/suspension into the caliber srt4?
Coincidence, I guess 🤔
Does this review apply to all SXT models or just the SXT-4?
Sxt and SRT are two different things and yes this stuff is only on the SRT4
Brah
Had 2 neon srt4's but I sold all and all are Great cars but when finding something new I chose the ion redline supercharged. However your numbers are way off neon srt4 dyno's at 245 not 215 0-60 5.5 seconds all around better then the caliber.
even the neon srt4 ACR only made 230hp...have no idea where YOU got your numbers from bro😨
@@MrRandomReviews your pulling first gen 2003 numbers. 2004-2005 and few made latter 2005 all made 245 when dynoed 2003 made 215 because thats what the pt cruiser gt made and in 2003 but 2004 the pt cruiser gt high out made 225 because the pt gt and srt4 in 2004 used different injectors and pcm's in 04 then in 03 so you might want to get better info its the reason why 03 pcms don't work on 04 and 05 jesus christ already. We built 500-600 srt4's out here in az srt4's is what we do.
@@MrRandomReviews
SAE 215 hp (160 kW) (2003 model)
SAE 230 hp (170 kW) (2004-2005 models)[8][9][10] In 2004, the SRT-4 received a power increase, with larger fuel injectors and a recalibrated engine computer.[11]
Manufacturer's specification when the SRT-4 was released was 230 hp (170 kW). However, several independent tests have produced results indicating 230-238 whp and 250-262 lb-ft. This would indicate that the SRT-4 produces more power than the manufacturer claims. The flywheel power is estimated to be 255-265 hp(190-198 kW) and 260-270 lb-ft torque(352-366 N·m)[12][13][14][15][16]
Torque:245 lb⋅ft (332 N⋅m) @ 3200-4200 rpm (2003 model)
250 lb⋅ft (339 N⋅m) @ 2400-4400 rpm (2004-2005
Reliable my ass lmao! You must have not owned it for that long lmao! Calibers are definitely known for being way worse that then neons ask any reputable shop that works on both!
You mean 200 pound weight difference not a 1000!? Lol
Neon SRT4 is about 2900lbs
Caliber SRT4 is about 3100lbs
My wife actually had the base model of one of those I did actually wasn't okay car at the time it had too many issues now that I'm making more money with my job I would have just kept it fix it up and give it to one of the kids we were forced to sell it at the time they were hurt too funny now she's got a really nice 2010 Ford Fusion SE runs pretty good need to couple of things with what car doesnt
The caliber was more of a cruiser and neon was to rip up the road
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.3 seconds slower 0-60 than a 5.7 charger.... What year charger are we talking about here?
I don't own a Charger, but I own a Challenger R/T and my best 0-60 is 4.20 flat
Not stock with stock tires you didn't. There is no way you ran .6 faster than the best advertised time 0-60 in the R/T Challenger. The fastest version of the Challenger runs a 4.8 and that goes up to a 5.3 for the slowest year advertised. Even on drag radials an improvement like that on a RWD car would be impossible, unless you were driving it off a cliff.
@@rooh5825 255 tires (only 10mm wider than stock) but they have a lot more traction. The specific model of them is escaping me right now, but they're Dunlops and they're a performance oriented tire. Went from spinning all of 1st and half way thru 2nd with the factory 245's, to being much easier to control spinning in 1st, and chirping into 2nd
Also, my car is a 6 speed manual R/T Plus with the factory optional 3.91 rear end, and all I've done to it is an intake (not really gonna add anything) fully straight piped, and a diablo canned tune.
@@PotatoeJoe69 Okay, that makes more sense then. The guy who made this video is loony anyway, all his stats are way off. I love all things Mopar, I even applaud Dodge for creating the SRT caliber, but it was polishing a turd heh. And it was NOT faster than any of the 5.7 cars.
Caliber is not a thousand pounds heavier than the Neon. Only a couple hundo.
R E L I A B I L I T Y . . . 🤣
I swear we think alike lmao.
I actually wanted one of these before..but now they are all clapped out it ain't even funny. Besides, there are better cars for the same price.
I bought this car brand new In 08' the first one in the tri state area they said. I also bought a neon srt4 in 05 brand new. Neons trans shit out at 18k, calibers motor blew with 250miles on the clock . Followed Chryslers break in procedure . I loved these cars. They were fuckin fast for what they were. But they're garbage. Built like ass. These were the last dodges I bought and I still won't buy one today. And I come from a big history of DSM cars and still own one today. The mopars just sucked.
Love the complete ass paint job too nice touch. Love white cars with red door jambs.
that sounds like a driver error to me lmao. I know chrystler reliability is crap, but if you got multiple brand new cars crapping out in a years time, you're doing something wrong.
@@johnsullivan937 disagree I had 2 buddies with neons that threw the trans. Its very hard to find one that doesn't grind 3rd gear now. The caliber Chrysler took the blame and said it was a defective long block and it was replaced under warranty. Driver error. Ive been driving and working on cars for 20 years. It had nothing to do with me. Both cars were new off the lot. As I'm sitting in my 96 eclipse GST with zero issues at 123k. The quality went downhill big time on those cars and it shows today.
"1,000 lb weight difference"...No you are completely wrong. You should check the curb weights before making a video.
Yeah it’s more like 300 or even less
Please look up your stats 1000 lbs more than neon is not even close, neon weight 2900, caliber 3300
Reliable my ass lmao! You must have not owned it for that long lol! Trust me for someone who has been in the srt-4 scene for years you definitely have not done much research lol. Ask and reputable shop that works on both the caliber and neons and they will tell you he calibers suck lol
Lmao, you're trying soooo hard to make the Caliber better than the Neon. The 04-05 Neon made way more hp than 215. Also, Dodge underrated with their hp numbers so there were Neons making 250+ stock on a dyno. Reliable? Hell no! Not saying the neon is any better but to find a caliber srt4 engine is almost impossible once your blows up. Don't hate the Caliber, but to say its better than the Neon... lmao nope. They 'tried' to replace the Neon but the CSRT only came out 2 years and not 3 like the Neon.
This is 300hp but the neon was faster if im not wrong
@ras 47 I never got beat by any of my buddies in their caliber srt-4 when I had my neon srt-4. The Caliber made 285 but stock v stock the neon would win. This was from personal experience...maybe other people had different experiences.
Yeah I can't get on board with this thing. It's one of those "be everything for everyone" type cars but it does everything worse than everything else. It tries to be tough looking but not too tough, it's an SUV with not enough space inside, it's a hot hatch but it's too big, it's AWD but it's too tall to be nimble but too short for off road stuff... Just pick something.
@@jamesstaggs4160 it's not AWD. Srt4 neon and calibers were fwd.
The owner was my ex, looks like I'm calling him for a pick me up, one love joe baby.
LSD ????
So much misinformation in this video it's painful. The caliber is not 1000 pounds heavier than the nsrt4 and it does not come factory with a LSD either.
neons the better choice lol
Just FYI Neon > Caliber
Caliber has a german 6 speed neon only a 5 speed you get more out the caliber
@@robintheslavewr1513 yea more weight
@@954MrSayre calibers are only 500 pounds more than a neon 🤡
@@robintheslavewr1513 neons are better EoS
@@954MrSayre that's why majority srt4 neons are in junkyard with blown trannys