0:20 I think the term you were looking for is 'value for money'. That is the term we use for this. It's not a cheap pedal and I can see that you mean it's a good pedal for people on a budget, but in itself the pedal is good value for money. That is exactly what we mean with the term.
I completely disagree with the overall opinion in the end. Even though the delays from Strymon are a bit better, the quality of the reverbs are the same. Some people even prefer the Ventris over the Big Sky. My feeling is that you just did not spend enough time tweaking the Collider.
💯Agree, I build, customise and repair musicians' gear for a living. SA's algorithms are right up there with the best. I love Strymon gear, SA is equally as good, just different.
I am saving for one of these. It’ll be my first pedal I’ve ever owned. Yours is the first review that said it’s fine and OK, most raved about it and use glowing terms. Since I just play at home, by myself, this will surely be enough to keep me going for ages. Thank you for your clear, honest review.
I bought the Ventris a month before this came out. So I have that and the Nemisis. But with the Neuro editor, all engines and presets are interchangeable within each SA sub group. I landed on Source Audio because Eventide's and Strymon's reverbs weren't as good. SA's reverb is the cleanest I've heard since Lexicon's rack units. Btw, I'm confident SA chose mini USB over micro USB because of the much more durable form factor.
Thanks so much for this video. I was right to be suspicious that I will have trouble accessing presets live without a MIDI controller. Just when I thought the footswitches allowing to scroll forward and backward thru presets is a godsend, the condition of having to remember to have the effect/s off first will confuse me in a spur of the moment situations onstage.
I totally had issues with the flipped phase on the output. It was no problem until I went wet/dry with it, then it sounded like garbage. I emailed Source Audio and they said they will address that issue with future firmware releases.
That's interesting, as I mentioned I had a similar issue with it. When I contacted them about it over a year ago, they said it was more efficient to inverse the phase. Made no sense to me. Good to hear they're going to fix the issue.
@@ManBunMetalHead got my collider today and just out the box it’s sounds awesome. Now to spend all night programming the midi. Probably gonna have to watch your es8 videos some more ;)
You think this is not as good as strymon because it is not as expensive? You are so wrong haha This has more powerful dsp (dual) and sounds better than blue sky (v1) and delays sound better than the strymon timeline. Feel free to get ripped off by strymon though 👍
hey good stuff! what happens when you turn the feedback all the way up, does it have infinite reverb and delay? im trying to figure out if i can use this thing for dub mixing, thx in advance
What is the purpose of the 1/4 to 1/8 cable? Expression pedals (that I know of) are usually 1/4 to 1/4, and controlling from a mobile device is usually (that I know of) 1/8 to 1/8, so, what am I not thinking of as the purpose for this cable? Are the Neuro specific external control devices 1/4 to 1/8? From reading the manual it seems that I can connect those to the Pedal In as well as the Control in.....
Okay...I think I figured it out for any other readers that might wonder- It looks like you can use INPUT (1/4) # 2 ALSO as a connection to the Neuro App to control things. So, the theoretical use case might be an expression pedal or one of the SA's external controller switches in Pedal In, a SA tap switch or Hot Hand or something in CTRL, and then still having the ability to control via the App through Input 2. Wild.......
Thanks for posting such a clear explanation. I do have one question that I didn't see you address. Why does the preset light keep blinking and is there a way to turn it off (or make it stop blinking) without saving settings as a preset?
Is it true that the Collider's preset switching takes between 200 ms and 1 second (when using Midi / Effects Switcher)? I would need something like the collider for my live pedalboard, but waiting a second for the sound to appear is not okay at all. Do you have any experience with that? I've also read that the delay/reverb unnaturally stops immediately when turning the collider of - is that true?
Hey Man, Thanks for the review and going through some of its paces. Could you tell me where I could get some info on the outputs having a inverse phase. Just not to sure what that means. Just picked one up today and to me so far, just okay,but haven't dove in yet. Anyway, Many Thanks again and hope to hear back about the output inverse phase thing... Jack...
It's probably not something you'll need to worry about unless you run the Collider in parallel with another pedal. I'll be making a video on phase cancellation in the future.
@@ManBunMetalHead Thanks Buddy, Yeah ,will look for the video, I do run 2 amps and sometimes 3 with a kemper as well. So always checking phase issues ect... I just try to go with what sounds best. Thanks again, ...
@@jz6965 Hey, Jack. Thanks for picking up the Collider! If you have any questions about our gear, please email us at contact@sourceaudio.net and we will be more than happy to answer them. You shouldn't run into any phase issues if you run the Collider in a stereo rig, but if you come across something, please reach out to us.
Hey I'm using es5 and collider, when I turn on both rever and delay ,it makes such a loud shimmering noise man.. no matter how less control 1 and control 2 I don't know why
I must confess, I’m frustrated with this video. As a preface, I own Strymon pedals as well as this one and I adore them all. What is this baffling claim that a $350 dollar pedal is considered a budget purchase? That’s relatively inexpensive if you’re buying a guitar, but that’s fairly steep for a pedal. A $175 dollar pedal isn’t budget either. The later part of your video says that folks should save up for (as an example) Boss pedals. Boss pedals average 100-150 bucks, but I suppose those are budget pedals too, eh? Another thing that confused me… why use such bland guitar playing? I’m not suggesting you perform some prog metal shreds, but putting some musicality into the tone demos would’ve been much appreciated. It truly feels like you read the instructions, tried the pedal out for a few minutes and promptly decided to start filming. This pedal was not done justice here.
I have this pedal as well as a Boss RV500 and DD500. The Collider is great and if you wanna save space and weight it’s the way to go. If you want every version of delay and reverb, there are other better options.
I actually like that he did this. Alot of reviews only highlight the positive aspects of pedals. I like reviews that cover everything, good and bad. This way, I know exactly what to expect and am not let down.
This guy knows nothing about reverbs or delays as you can tell by the way he plays to demo the different options. The reverse delay for example was popular in the 1960s and it's usually used with slow timing not rapid as he uses. This is NOT a budget pedal. Pete Thorn who played with Chris Cornell, Jewel and other pros gives a true review and says these are lush studio quality reverbs which they are. The Reverbs on this unit annihilate the strymon big sky and even the Empress reverb. He never demoed how to create a slap-back which is very popular with rockabilly. This is the reason the video has so many dislikes.
@@trenthogan4212 Have to agree, I have owned the Bigsky, Specular Tempus and others, the Collider is the best of the bunch based on what my ears tell me. The Collider is also very user friendly.
@@trenthogan4212 I agree too. This guy obviously doesn't know how to use it. This is one thing I don't like with YT : guys with a poor musical level giving their opinion about something that they don't (yet) understand / master.
You can get a nemesis for $300. Is that consider a budget pedal? All this pedals use algorithms. It probably doesn’t take muck to load one side with something different.
An unmentioned advantage, it saves real estate on a small pedalboard. Thanks for a great walk through and demo.
0:20 I think the term you were looking for is 'value for money'. That is the term we use for this. It's not a cheap pedal and I can see that you mean it's a good pedal for people on a budget, but in itself the pedal is good value for money. That is exactly what we mean with the term.
I completely disagree with the overall opinion in the end.
Even though the delays from Strymon are a bit better, the quality of the reverbs are the same. Some people even prefer the Ventris over the Big Sky.
My feeling is that you just did not spend enough time tweaking the Collider.
💯Agree, I build, customise and repair musicians' gear for a living. SA's algorithms are right up there with the best. I love Strymon gear, SA is equally as good, just different.
Man you did your research. Very good explanations! It’s a great pedal. This video has explained a lot of little details that I was missing. Thanks
I am saving for one of these. It’ll be my first pedal I’ve ever owned. Yours is the first review that said it’s fine and OK, most raved about it and use glowing terms. Since I just play at home, by myself, this will surely be enough to keep me going for ages. Thank you for your clear, honest review.
I bought the Ventris a month before this came out. So I have that and the Nemisis. But with the Neuro editor, all engines and presets are interchangeable within each SA sub group. I landed on Source Audio because Eventide's and Strymon's reverbs weren't as good. SA's reverb is the cleanest I've heard since Lexicon's rack units. Btw, I'm confident SA chose mini USB over micro USB because of the much more durable form factor.
Dude your other video helped me update my es8. Cheers man.
Excellent review! Top notch. keep doing more like these
I checked out a lot of other videos on the Collider before this one - yours is easily the best! Thorough and thoughtful.
Thanks!
Thanks so much for this video. I was right to be suspicious that I will have trouble accessing presets live without a MIDI controller. Just when I thought the footswitches allowing to scroll forward and backward thru presets is a godsend, the condition of having to remember to have the effect/s off first will confuse me in a spur of the moment situations onstage.
Subscribed. Great review, thanks for keeping it real.
Subbed, please continue videos like this!
I totally had issues with the flipped phase on the output. It was no problem until I went wet/dry with it, then it sounded like garbage. I emailed Source Audio and they said they will address that issue with future firmware releases.
That's interesting, as I mentioned I had a similar issue with it. When I contacted them about it over a year ago, they said it was more efficient to inverse the phase. Made no sense to me. Good to hear they're going to fix the issue.
Thanks so very much great Demo
16:43 My face every time I use Shimmer. Great review
I just ordered one and of course I’m going to control it midi with my es8
Nice. Definitely the way to go!
@@ManBunMetalHead got my collider today and just out the box it’s sounds awesome. Now to spend all night programming the midi. Probably gonna have to watch your es8 videos some more ;)
@@Kevngodfrey good luck man!
You think this is not as good as strymon because it is not as expensive? You are so wrong haha
This has more powerful dsp (dual) and sounds better than blue sky (v1) and delays sound better than the strymon timeline. Feel free to get ripped off by strymon though 👍
Love your vids
Thanks a lot man!
hey good stuff! what happens when you turn the feedback all the way up, does it have infinite reverb and delay? im trying to figure out if i can use this thing for dub mixing, thx in advance
What is the purpose of the 1/4 to 1/8 cable? Expression pedals (that I know of) are usually 1/4 to 1/4, and controlling from a mobile device is usually (that I know of) 1/8 to 1/8, so, what am I not thinking of as the purpose for this cable? Are the Neuro specific external control devices 1/4 to 1/8? From reading the manual it seems that I can connect those to the Pedal In as well as the Control in.....
Okay...I think I figured it out for any other readers that might wonder- It looks like you can use INPUT (1/4) # 2 ALSO as a connection to the Neuro App to control things. So, the theoretical use case might be an expression pedal or one of the SA's external controller switches in Pedal In, a SA tap switch or Hot Hand or something in CTRL, and then still having the ability to control via the App through Input 2. Wild.......
Thanks for posting such a clear explanation. I do have one question that I didn't see you address. Why does the preset light keep blinking and is there a way to turn it off (or make it stop blinking) without saving settings as a preset?
New sub here, been following you for years for es8 info!way I didn’t sub years ago I don’t know 🤦♂️
Glad to have you here! 🤘🏼
can you use a remote tap AND an expression pedal on this? asking cause it has only on expression input. thx
Hello is this pedal have to use the microphone directly for singing
Is it true that the Collider's preset switching takes between 200 ms and 1 second (when using Midi / Effects Switcher)? I would need something like the collider for my live pedalboard, but waiting a second for the sound to appear is not okay at all. Do you have any experience with that? I've also read that the delay/reverb unnaturally stops immediately when turning the collider of - is that true?
Hey Man, Thanks for the review and going through some of its paces. Could you tell me where I could get some info on the outputs having a inverse phase. Just not to sure what that means. Just picked one up today and to me so far, just okay,but haven't dove in yet. Anyway, Many Thanks again and hope to hear back about the output inverse phase thing... Jack...
It's probably not something you'll need to worry about unless you run the Collider in parallel with another pedal. I'll be making a video on phase cancellation in the future.
@@ManBunMetalHead Thanks Buddy, Yeah ,will look for the video, I do run 2 amps and sometimes 3 with a kemper as well. So always checking phase issues ect... I just try to go with what sounds best. Thanks again, ...
@@jz6965 Hey, Jack. Thanks for picking up the Collider! If you have any questions about our gear, please email us at contact@sourceaudio.net and we will be more than happy to answer them. You shouldn't run into any phase issues if you run the Collider in a stereo rig, but if you come across something, please reach out to us.
@@sourceaudioeffects Will Do, and Many Thanks as well to All of You at Sourceaudioeffects !!!
@@sourceaudioeffects what did he mean by inverting the phase of the outputs?
I dug it bro
How do you use the left footswitch as a tap tempo? Do you have to hold it down to get it to tap tempo mode?
It is not so expensive.. why? because it doesn't have a led screen. I use Collider with a midi controller. I sometimes wish there was a screen.
“Accidental knob touch”
Yeah I need to avoid this.
how do you set up the I/O to be channel a and b?
Can delay & reverb be used at the same time? Or does it only work one at a time?
Yes, both can be used at the same time. You can also use 2 delays or 2 reverbs as well.
Hey I'm using es5 and collider, when I turn on both rever and delay ,it makes such a loud shimmering noise man.. no matter how less control 1 and control 2 I don't know why
Is there a way to make this pedal switch always actived every time we turn on the power supply?
Yes. In neuro app
I must confess, I’m frustrated with this video. As a preface, I own Strymon pedals as well as this one and I adore them all. What is this baffling claim that a $350 dollar pedal is considered a budget purchase? That’s relatively inexpensive if you’re buying a guitar, but that’s fairly steep for a pedal. A $175 dollar pedal isn’t budget either. The later part of your video says that folks should save up for (as an example) Boss pedals. Boss pedals average 100-150 bucks, but I suppose those are budget pedals too, eh? Another thing that confused me… why use such bland guitar playing? I’m not suggesting you perform some prog metal shreds, but putting some musicality into the tone demos would’ve been much appreciated. It truly feels like you read the instructions, tried the pedal out for a few minutes and promptly decided to start filming. This pedal was not done justice here.
Let’s not forget all the algorithms are the same as the Ventris & Nemesis..
I have this pedal as well as a Boss RV500 and DD500. The Collider is great and if you wanna save space and weight it’s the way to go. If you want every version of delay and reverb, there are other better options.
imagine being "frustrated" with a youtube video
👍🏼
You make it look as a bad pedal. Kind of like your set on finding “negative” aspects about it.
I actually like that he did this. Alot of reviews only highlight the positive aspects of pedals. I like reviews that cover everything, good and bad. This way, I know exactly what to expect and am not let down.
I agree with IanN - too many videos gush about the good aspects and turn a blind eye to the negatives. Good mix of talking and playing.
This guy knows nothing about reverbs or delays as you can tell by the way he plays to demo the different options. The reverse delay for example was popular in the 1960s and it's usually used with slow timing not rapid as he uses. This is NOT a budget pedal. Pete Thorn who played with Chris Cornell, Jewel and other pros gives a true review and says these are lush studio quality reverbs which they are. The Reverbs on this unit annihilate the strymon big sky and even the Empress reverb. He never demoed how to create a slap-back which is very popular with rockabilly. This is the reason the video has so many dislikes.
@@trenthogan4212 Have to agree, I have owned the Bigsky, Specular Tempus and others, the Collider is the best of the bunch based on what my ears tell me. The Collider is also very user friendly.
@@trenthogan4212 I agree too. This guy obviously doesn't know how to use it.
This is one thing I don't like with YT : guys with a poor musical level giving their opinion about something that they don't (yet) understand / master.
love this pedal but the reverse mode sounds nothing like a reverse delay...
You can get a nemesis for $300. Is that consider a budget pedal? All this pedals use algorithms. It probably doesn’t take muck to load one side with something different.
Dude is really not very into these delays. Wonder how useful they are.
You sound like you hate this pedal
Cool demo. But what this pedal costs, I think I'll just pay the extra $100 and get the Strymon Timeline.
Bigger, more expensive and no reverb. Timeline is king though I'm not saying that.
Thanks for that great explanation, But please: In every Language pauses and breaks are as important as in music.