This IEM DESTROYS All Competition....

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @HiFiGOAudio
    @HiFiGOAudio 2 года назад +158

    It has been released an hour ago. Seeing the interest among music listeners regarding the Performer 5, Aful has decided to set the price at $219.99.

    • @TheVeganVicar
      @TheVeganVicar 8 месяцев назад

      @@ariathyf144, the fact that the have TOTALLY ignored your comment, as well as the multiple messages I sent via their website, indicates that I ought to avoid this store at all costs!
      The Performer 5 is currently the equivalent of USD$153 in my country.

  • @Plucks_IEM_Wonderland
    @Plucks_IEM_Wonderland 2 года назад +95

    Timmy: I am not gonna mention 'performer 5' a thousands times.
    Also Timmy: performer 5 performer 5 performer 5 :)

  • @rinirax
    @rinirax 2 года назад +20

    New iem list looks good, thanks for the update and of course the constant work you've put into it so far

    • @Gizaudio
      @Gizaudio  2 года назад +8

      Thank you so much!

  • @mswakai
    @mswakai Год назад +4

    Hi Timmy! Just got mine Performer 5.... amazed by this IEM.... Great review!

  • @CThienV
    @CThienV 2 года назад +11

    Adding nozzle width info to your reviews would help a lot

  • @jackmcconnell5546
    @jackmcconnell5546 2 года назад +2

    GIZ. BRO, Please make more banger music for your outros!
    lowkey love just vibing to this song.

  • @humanbass
    @humanbass 2 года назад +36

    That smooth treble extension seems amazing. Something I only expect in 600 plus iems.

    • @Smzxe
      @Smzxe 2 года назад

      600 has treble peek

    • @ysubman
      @ysubman 2 года назад +33

      @@Smzxe He is not talking about ie600 but iems above $600 pricerange

    • @Sand_1995
      @Sand_1995 2 года назад +2

      IE600 sucks. Not even worth $100

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 Год назад +2

      ​@@Smzxe lol

  • @sieghartprimeknight9
    @sieghartprimeknight9 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for updating the IEM Ranking List!! Love u Timmy😘

  • @ImAWSMDanny
    @ImAWSMDanny 2 года назад +41

    The good budget iems are the reason I'm here spending money on this that I wouldn't have otherwise. Thanks 7hz Zero and Truthear Zero for introducing me to the hobby.

  • @nickdawiz
    @nickdawiz 2 года назад +6

    The graph looks delicious 🤤 and it is affordable. Thank you for covering this!

  • @VitorMach
    @VitorMach 2 года назад +8

    Owner of a B2:Dusk here. Judging by the FR alone, the Aful looks even better tonality-wise tbh. That ~8KHz peak on the Dusk can be agressive at times, I usually EQ it down.

    • @barbasour
      @barbasour 2 года назад +1

      that 8kHz is probably the coupler's resonance, most likely. I think it's the "compressed" quality of the BA used, which evidently they are high in distortion, especially when played at a high loudness level. but when you play at a moderate loudness level, it's not even peaky but smooth. it also sounds better with wide bore ear tips like Azla Sedna Earfit Light

    • @VitorMach
      @VitorMach 2 года назад +4

      @@barbasour it is, but it also resonates inside ear cannals, mine is actually around 7,6KHz with the Dusk, but same peak. I do use it with Spring tips for a deeper insertion.

    • @VitorMach
      @VitorMach 2 года назад

      @@barbasour Knowles SWFK BAs supposedly have low enough distortion (as I believe pretty much any driver nowadays do), but I can't really say.

    • @barbasour
      @barbasour 2 года назад +1

      @@VitorMach yes but it's how they implemented it. there are other factors like crossover design (frequency divider), tubing, damping, etc.
      there are some measurements I've seen out there. I think it was audiosciencereview

    • @LatentRewinds
      @LatentRewinds 2 года назад

      i'm planning to upgrade from fiio fh3, what do you recommend B2 or P5, please tell

  • @Foobymaster1
    @Foobymaster1 2 года назад +18

    Man it sure is aful for everyone else making iems

  • @XenoDeki
    @XenoDeki 2 года назад +7

    It's nice to get some competition with more appropriate price brackets. Hopefully in the upcoming months, we will get Variations level sounding IEMs at $200 below. I'm one to be hopeful considering how much the IEM market has evolved in the past months alone wherein an IEM with poor/meh tuning gets obsolete right there and then.

    • @gs-nq6mw
      @gs-nq6mw 2 года назад

      Why he dont mentioned Performer 5 at his under 200$ list tho?

    • @mormsophen3238
      @mormsophen3238 2 года назад +2

      @@gs-nq6mw cuz it is $220

  • @HobbyTalk
    @HobbyTalk 2 года назад +4

    I like the new price evaluation thing in the tier list too

  • @mikef5659
    @mikef5659 5 месяцев назад +1

    I agree mostly with this review. I've had the Performer 5 for a couple weeks now and can say the sub bass is addictive. I got this IEM for $162 and it's pretty spectacular for under $200. This is a sub bass IEM, period. Still somewhat neutral sounding but a little laid back and not as airy in the treble region. If you are a treble person, explore the blessing options. You can listen to this iem all day without fatigue. Still great vocals and details though. Especially for the price. If you want more, just as Timmy says, go up to the $500+ IEM's.

  • @Medsas
    @Medsas 2 года назад +3

    right now yume 2 is 142, is performer 5 worth 78$ more?

  • @oppenz3723
    @oppenz3723 2 года назад +1

    Ngl that graph looks amazing

  • @williams9117
    @williams9117 2 года назад +6

    How does it compares to the Mangird Tea 2 ? The tuning is different I suppose ?

    • @jasonlim1409
      @jasonlim1409 2 года назад

      Hi Timmy, interested to know your opinion between this and Mangird Tea2 too. Thanks for help in advance.

  • @HobbyTalk
    @HobbyTalk 2 года назад +8

    That tuning looks awesome… I need to try it! I needs it! 😂

    • @Practiphile
      @Practiphile 2 года назад +3

      Do it.. haha.. 🤣

    • @HobbyTalk
      @HobbyTalk 2 года назад

      @@Practiphile if I wasn’t about to lose my job I’d be getting it haha

    • @Practiphile
      @Practiphile 2 года назад +1

      @@HobbyTalk 😂

  • @kevinmccarthy3753
    @kevinmccarthy3753 2 года назад +3

    Timmy,
    How difficult are these to drive? Does the sound quality you talk about come through on the iPhone with an Apple dongle or do the need something stronger? Thanks in advance!!!

  • @STAYCBias
    @STAYCBias 2 года назад +7

    Today I will receive my moondrop quarks DSP good luck! I will do my review here 😆

    • @vavent_
      @vavent_ 2 года назад +2

      Great taste in music mate

    • @fun_ruiner
      @fun_ruiner 2 года назад +1

      They look incredible and not just for the price, like in general, at least if they follow their own graph.
      A Moondrop Variations for $15

    • @STAYCBias
      @STAYCBias 2 года назад +1

      @@fun_ruiner , gg bro! 20$ sound so god dam good!

    • @fun_ruiner
      @fun_ruiner 2 года назад +2

      @@STAYCBias Did you receiver it? What do you think about it?

  • @marlonfreeman8057
    @marlonfreeman8057 Год назад +1

    My endgame IEM’s ♥️ I loooove these soo much from the fit, comfort, design, and of course the sound. Honestly, half of the reason I bought it was for the name😂 it’s an Aful IEM😏

  • @nl_2652
    @nl_2652 2 года назад +4

    Almost rare to find a poorly tuned new IEM at this point wow

  • @yori5514
    @yori5514 2 года назад +3

    Seems like I found an alternative to my Timeless

  • @AudioReviewsDownunder
    @AudioReviewsDownunder 2 года назад +16

    100% man, I have just been listening to these today myself, wow, they are friken killers..
    Exceptionally good detail retrieval and imaging..
    Feel like I've rediscovered music again with these things

    • @f_society91
      @f_society91 2 года назад +3

      Im new to iems, so do you think this little thing has better sound than a sennheiser or akg HEADPHONES? (these are just an example).

    • @0Metatron
      @0Metatron Год назад

      @@f_society91 it will probably be better most of the mid to lower priced ones from those brands

  • @sag4790
    @sag4790 2 года назад +5

    With all due respect, the Performer5 only looks good on the graph. I was not able to connect with the sound however hard I tried. The Hiby Lasya is significantly better than this. Better controlled bass, much more open and transparent midrange, much better separation and imaging, a wider and more airy presentation with very good treble. The Lasya is a significant contender under $200 being just a single DD, but sadly it is totally flying under the radar.

    • @legendsheart3768
      @legendsheart3768 2 года назад

      How well does it resolve compared to the performer 5 ?.

  • @Tomzak11
    @Tomzak11 2 года назад +3

    You now can get the akg n5005 on sale on their site for 199 which one is beter?

  • @leonarda8946
    @leonarda8946 2 года назад +3

    How do you feel the Performer 5 is compared to something higher end like SA6?

  • @GabrielKLKN
    @GabrielKLKN 2 года назад +1

    I thought it was a chicken thigh in the thumbnail lmao

  • @jrusso3
    @jrusso3 2 года назад +2

    okay, I'm loving my Kato, but I'm kind of craving the next step up.. Would this be enough of a jump or do I save up and head for a higher tier?? Decisions, decisions...

    • @findingjapanartist9836
      @findingjapanartist9836 2 года назад +1

      at this point the only advice i can give is depends on ur budget and wallet-kun
      well selling sec hand kato is an option too

    • @Rsalmond83
      @Rsalmond83 2 года назад

      Yes

    • @rene837
      @rene837 2 года назад +2

      I'm on exactly the same horse at the moment ^^. Stay with the Kato or "upgrade" to this one.

  • @Sunset13118
    @Sunset13118 2 года назад +2

    Hi Timmy how does Performer 5 compare to Olina SE

  • @jimmyd7289
    @jimmyd7289 2 года назад

    Great review as always Timmy. I just placed my order!

  • @EricRosenfield
    @EricRosenfield 2 года назад

    I have trouble imagining myself walking around with something that looks like it says “awful” on it

    • @or1on89
      @or1on89 7 месяцев назад

      It’s AFUL not AWFUL. Pronunciation it’s not even the same…

    • @EricRosenfield
      @EricRosenfield 7 месяцев назад

      @@or1on89 uh huh. I’ll use them along with my TURIBIL and SHET IEMs…

  • @AlexanderIonkin
    @AlexanderIonkin Год назад +2

    Will BTR5 power aful performer 5 well?

  • @GoogleDario
    @GoogleDario 9 месяцев назад

    Very nice review! Unfortunately I can't decide between the Performer 5 and the Hidizs MP145. It would be important to me that the vocals are very close to the ear and that the whole thing has an intimate sound and everything sounds detailed. It should be operated with my Qudelix 5K, can you perhaps help me with the choice?

  • @retouthugues4921
    @retouthugues4921 2 года назад +2

    I recieved the Sa6 ultra n°156, very happy of the way it sounds. I was hesitating with the performer 5 that was just anounced but not available. So i choosed the ultra before all be sold. Is there a big difference between them ?

  • @nexustanks81
    @nexustanks81 2 года назад +1

    is it worth to upgrade my moondrop aria to this? Previously I was thinking of upgrading to blessing 2 dusk but decided not to due to the price.

  • @Im_DJ
    @Im_DJ 2 года назад

    Ah I see an extend outro!
    Also the value king is still dunu sa6 ultra. And will be for quite a while

  • @cryptik_official
    @cryptik_official Год назад

    Would you personally say that these are a better "all rounder" than the Moondrop Blessing 2 Dusk? You and many others talk highly of this IEM but I would love to know which one would you'd choose if the Performer 5 and Dusk BOTH had a $220 price tag? Yes.... the P5 has more bass but with all things aside which one are you putting in a small bag for both electronic music and gaming?

  • @psykadelikoflifelinez
    @psykadelikoflifelinez 2 года назад +1

    hey Timmy, how would you treat these IEMs? can it be use for some monitoring? been watching your reviews of IEMs lately and I do love how you give people some idea about one product..

  • @edgoreec
    @edgoreec Год назад

    Excelente video, cual crees que me convenga el Aful performer 5 o los kiwi ears quintet?
    Muchas gracias

  • @carminedesanto6746
    @carminedesanto6746 2 года назад +2

    Variations is still the 👑
    This looks very very interesting…..
    Great review.
    Take care ☕️

  • @CptMark
    @CptMark 2 года назад +1

    Only one question. The size of the nozzle?

  • @matiascandia1107
    @matiascandia1107 2 года назад +1

    Am looking for an upgrade. Performer5 or timeless ae?

  • @MuhammadIrfan-ye5zf
    @MuhammadIrfan-ye5zf 2 года назад +2

    $215 and the hype is this big. Bruh, my wallet can't hold out.

  • @suziiki98
    @suziiki98 Год назад

    I thought Blessing would lose in the bass
    In just bass punch and clarity, which would you say wins?

  • @Tyranitar354
    @Tyranitar354 4 месяца назад

    does this need an amp/dac? or can i just plug it in my pc and enjoy it?

  • @fururu7316
    @fururu7316 2 года назад

    I'm looking forward to get these ^^

  • @jonathanchia4334
    @jonathanchia4334 2 года назад +1

    How would this compare to the yanyin Canon? Given that both have similar driver configs

  • @STAYCBias
    @STAYCBias 2 года назад

    Unfortunately, supposed to get my moondrop quarks DSP but I don't know what's the issue so....

  • @theonewhostonks
    @theonewhostonks Год назад

    should i get this or the hifiman deva pro? (i like hiphop a LOT, its my fav genre, heard the deva pro aint great for that), but i really wanna try huge soundstage. so im torn rn between bass/matching the genre and fun soundstage and great mids and treble. thoughts, anyone?

  • @gojulllll
    @gojulllll 9 месяцев назад

    hi sir really need ur help, how does this compare to qoa aviation? does it have clearer and more natural sound, instrument, and vocal?

  • @alexeiboukirev8357
    @alexeiboukirev8357 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Timmy. This sounds ASOME.

  • @AK-dn9iu
    @AK-dn9iu Год назад

    If at the same price , Which is better blessing2(not dusk, used: condition is not bad) or aful5 ??

  • @anikmahmudmoon8718
    @anikmahmudmoon8718 Год назад

    Currently I'm using olina se and I get wide soundstage and holographic imaging on olina se.
    Now I want to upgrade to aful p5.
    Is it also give holographic imaging and soundstage please tell me.

  • @randellpanganiban5522
    @randellpanganiban5522 2 года назад

    Ngl, totally thought it was a steak on the thumbnail

  • @livetips2491
    @livetips2491 2 года назад

    Hows performer 5 compared vs Raptgo Hook X planar? They about $32 more for Performer 5.
    I have 7hz timeless already. But i need another less fatiguing iems.

  • @EpicMinecraftFail
    @EpicMinecraftFail 2 года назад +3

    What about the s12

  • @amartinez97
    @amartinez97 2 года назад

    How do these compare to the Focus EDM? I dont buy IEM's often and my last ones I used daily before the focus EDM were the Sony XBA A2 (so comparisons to all these other weird name IEM's means literally nothing to me). I currently use the Focus EDM's and my sennheiser 58x Jubilee's. Would buying these offer me anything im not getting from either the Senns or the Focus?

  • @e9joy
    @e9joy 2 года назад

    Comparison is a main feature of this channel it’s awesome 🙉🙉🙉🙉🙉🙊🐸🐸🐸🐸

  • @-aexc-
    @-aexc- Год назад

    i wish i had ears big enough for these

  • @baka_ja_nai
    @baka_ja_nai Год назад

    Do you think that it is worth to pay more for Dusk if I looove japanese female vocals like Ado, Lisa, Aimer etc?
    Or are these good enough for female vocals and it's not worth to pay more?

  • @Michael-dm9dx
    @Michael-dm9dx 2 года назад

    I would like to ask would these perform well for competitive gaming? Im vurrently playing valorant, apex and the likes. If not, what would be your recommendations?

  • @lucasramos2005
    @lucasramos2005 2 года назад

    Great! How about vocals? Thin or thick?

  • @ehatn
    @ehatn Год назад

    So would you recommend getting these over the 7Hz Timeless even though the Timeless performs better?

  • @icarusix8750
    @icarusix8750 2 года назад +1

    how much isolation do you get out of these? might consider it if the isolation performance is good/ comparable to sealed ba sets

  • @velisk8074
    @velisk8074 2 года назад +1

    For some reason, they remind me of Thieaudio Monarch MK2. Even sound tuning the same.

    • @Gizaudio
      @Gizaudio  2 года назад +6

      Similar, but Monarch MK2 has many qualities that are noticeably better.

    • @velisk8074
      @velisk8074 2 года назад +2

      @@Gizaudio Of course, they are 5 times more expensive)

    • @MrDomq22
      @MrDomq22 2 года назад +4

      Makes sense - the tuning is incredibly similar to match the almost blatant faceplate similarities.

  • @janssensantos4231
    @janssensantos4231 Год назад

    Hi! I need help... There is an offer in themaketplace for an IER M7 for around $280 ... Would you recommed me get the ier m7 over the aful m5 brandnew? Thank you much! Love your channel btw

  • @tonimontana3485
    @tonimontana3485 2 года назад +1

    are they good for competitive gaming ?

  • @thomassommer2943
    @thomassommer2943 2 года назад

    Does anyone know how this IEM compares to NiceHCK Nx7 Mk4????

  • @Jan_de_Mor
    @Jan_de_Mor 2 года назад +3

    OMG... I need to resist the hyped temptation!!!! but as a detail lover I'm already married to the Timeless... at least until I earn enough for the SA6 ultra :D
    or until I sell one lung and a kidney to get the Anole VX... :DD

    • @quadrannilator
      @quadrannilator 2 года назад +1

      Me too!

    • @jagason7494
      @jagason7494 2 года назад

      For me the anole vx will be bad for gaming but music will be nice

    • @kurincc
      @kurincc 2 года назад

      sa6 ultra isn't in production anymore. They all sold out

    • @Jan_de_Mor
      @Jan_de_Mor 2 года назад

      @@kurincc I know, but it has been so succesfull that I'm pretty sure they are gonna launch a new batch in 2023.
      everybody involved wins with the business... why not do it?

    • @Jan_de_Mor
      @Jan_de_Mor 2 года назад

      @@kurincc I know, but it'd be no surprising at all if a new batch is launched in 2023. Everybody involved wins. In fact, it has already done with the LetShuoer Z12 and the LetShuoer S12 Pro, so...

  • @jagason7494
    @jagason7494 2 года назад

    Gonna wait until there’s one sounding like the variations at this price I’m not in any rush I will wait a while

  • @mark_midmark
    @mark_midmark 7 месяцев назад +1

    Here after the explorer unboxing because I love love love my P5. Recently I got back into iem reviews and have been working through a collection including the DUSK 2, Monarch MKii, DUNU Talos and others. The P5 blew me away immediately and made a lasting impression on me. I haven't found an iem under $300 that i feel are better than the p5.
    Nearly every thing you said about them matches my experience, so it's good to have confirmation.
    I'm working on my DUSK 2 review now, and love it, but I'm very curious how I'll like it vs the P5. From memory, the P5 is better in treble, sounds a bit richer, and a bit smoother through the upper mids. I'll be doing a comparison soon to see how my memory holds up.
    Anyway, thanks for the review. Great stuff.

  • @rafioled8997
    @rafioled8997 9 месяцев назад

    Dude what song is it on the outro? Its beautiful

  • @pavo1667
    @pavo1667 2 года назад +1

    im still going for the kato
    60 bucks less than this one, and i don't think im missing that much for that ammount of money

  • @carlit0wai
    @carlit0wai 2 года назад

    happy thanksgiving!

    • @Gizaudio
      @Gizaudio  2 года назад

      Happy thanksgiving!!!

  • @vonwerderc
    @vonwerderc 2 года назад +1

    This or kato for $135 on Amazon?

  • @GOZES
    @GOZES 2 года назад +1

    I wander how do they compare to the blessing 2 dusk. Looking at your graphs they look very similar

    • @ari-athbadminton0301
      @ari-athbadminton0301 2 года назад

      +1 there since i'm considering both for my iem engame.
      One thing is for sure , the blessing2 dusk has a better design and naming..

  • @jimmyd7289
    @jimmyd7289 Год назад

    Hey Timmy, I bought these based on your recommendation and I absolutely LOVE them. I even prefer these over my Monarch MKII and Kinera Nanna 2.0. What would be the “endgame” version of the Aful Performer 5? The 64 Audio Nio or something like that?

  • @catalinhustiu1736
    @catalinhustiu1736 2 года назад

    Do you need to add mesh filters, since the nozzle comes without? And if yes, which filters would you recommend?

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 Год назад

      Why lol clean your ears then 🤡

  • @alliensmoker7812
    @alliensmoker7812 Год назад +1

    aful P5 or timeless ae for dialy drive?

    • @kyrie2945
      @kyrie2945 Год назад

      Sennheiser ie 200, better Than This and other IEMs

    • @somestudentguy
      @somestudentguy Год назад

      I tried both and for me the Timeless AE was not what I was looking for. I had trouble with the fit, and the bass didn't feel as immersive for me as the P5 was. I'm returning the AE.
      I also have the IE 200, and it is very good and comfortable, but if you're wanting a good quality and quantity bass, especially in the sub-bass then I think the P5 takes the edge on that as well. I would say the mids are about the same between the two, and I would say the IE 200 hs a bit more treble, but they're both smooth on the treble side.

  • @shaunbrady15
    @shaunbrady15 Год назад

    How does it compare to the tea 2?

  • @ONSYAM
    @ONSYAM Год назад

    Hi, please tell me, aful p5 or audiosense t800?

  • @ziffra506
    @ziffra506 2 года назад

    Hi bro, i love your reviews.
    But there is this thing here in China that is named Aful Band5 pro. I wonder if its the same or not, but looks identical. 😅😅

  • @gagansaurav00
    @gagansaurav00 Год назад

    Which will be better for gaming p5 or blessing 2?

  • @adriancpm
    @adriancpm Год назад

    This or the Heyday? $20 more worth it?

  • @millenmarbun24
    @millenmarbun24 Год назад

    are these alot better than the tangzu heyday?

  • @hanspaolocam
    @hanspaolocam 2 года назад

    Hey, been wondering for a while, what is the title of the song for the outro of the videos?

  • @ChiroVette
    @ChiroVette Год назад

    Great video! I am considering this IEM. Also by Aful, I am toying with spending an extra $160.00 for the P8. Any thoughts? Oh and if it helps answer my question, I am 95% planning on using them for live performance. I am a singer and guitar player in bands and using backing tracks, mostly classic rock. I would be using these instead of my JBL PRX612m wedge monitor.

    • @ChiroVette
      @ChiroVette Год назад

      Also, I don't see a Blessing 2 Dusk available from Moondrop. Is that the same as Blessing 2? I was also looking at the Moondrop Blessing 3. How does the Blessing 2 and 3 stack up against the P5? Again, I don't see any "Dusk" model.

    • @kyrie2945
      @kyrie2945 Год назад

      I recommend sennheiser

  • @audiofile1178
    @audiofile1178 2 года назад

    What are the differences between Hook-X and Performer5? I have the Hook-X and am considering getting the P5.

    • @audiofile1178
      @audiofile1178 Год назад

      @@Hijynx87 No, I went for the XENNS UP instead. Absolutely love it and have not thought about wanting another IEM since.

  • @ItsJustChase
    @ItsJustChase 2 года назад

    How would you compare it to the ejo7m kinda lava?

  • @Orteth
    @Orteth 2 года назад

    Can you compare it with letshuoer s12?
    Is it considered a true upgrade from it?

    • @LeBeautiful
      @LeBeautiful 2 года назад

      If you want something more..balanced? Letshouer S12 should be fun in its own right

  • @samuelljackson.
    @samuelljackson. 2 года назад

    Hey have you try Sony IER M9 how is your opinion

  • @johnmountford8739
    @johnmountford8739 Год назад

    Are these good for rock / metal 🤔

  • @cedricamonn8335
    @cedricamonn8335 2 года назад

    Should i get this or the blessing 2 if i can get it for 250

  • @fredflint9153
    @fredflint9153 2 года назад +1

    Why not compare it with yume 2?

  • @sloppystyle
    @sloppystyle 2 года назад +1

    how do these stack up against the variations? if i have the cash should i go for the variations or the inexpensive preformer 5.

  • @Adler_GGG
    @Adler_GGG 2 года назад

    How does it compare to the er2xr?

  • @seyyedmohammadaminbineshta8822

    Timmy could you compare these with the legacy 5?

  • @bogusaurus1220
    @bogusaurus1220 2 года назад

    Does anyone know when this goes on Amazon?