On a recent holiday to north Devon I charged 100% on solar cost £0.00, arrived at AB&B and plugged in to dedicated charger - free. Drove around for the week, and charged up to 100% for trip home cost for week which was free. Got home and plugged in and recharged car on Solar at a cost of £0.00 so the whole 650 miles cost nothing for the whole week
Great video. I agree. Just did 550 miles from UK to Germany. There are probably more fast chargers than petrol stations along the route we take. I have done this trip many times in the past 25 years with and without family. I need to take breaks regardless if EV or ICE. I have a MYLR. To me this is just a car. I don't compare ICE vs EV anymore. It does the job and the family likes it.
Really good video! I think it is a very valuable resource for people who are new to the EV world, like myself. I would love to be able to go to Paris from Scotland but was very unsure as to how that would work in practise. I agree with other commenters, you would have a break or two in any car so charging actually makes you stop to have a break which makes you more awake and aware when doing long journeys. Really enjoying your content.
Fantastic and looked like an easy trip. Must say I stop around 2.5 to 3 hours, then after 2.5 hours as definately ready for more coffee and a leg stretch at that point. Planning to stop where there is food is simple to do and is something you would want.
Our recent trip was UK - France - Spain (Madrid) for a BBQ, then back up to Normandy and home. 3000 miles and 8.4p per mile. Next time could well be Portugal. Our diesel stays at home, just for local trips. 😅
@@djtaylorutube which is the way it seems to be going. Most people would say they would drive the ice car on long trips especially non EV owners ( that's me at the present time) yet the cost of the longer trips are dictating the opposite. Once the charging infrastructure is adequate and charge speeds increase, it'll be a no-brainer. My country of Australia has a long way to go for it's charging infrastructure unless you are close to the capital cities. When you go for a drive into any of the capital cities, the number of ev's are amazing. I'm around 250 kilometres from my closest Tesla supercharger and there are none at present in the northern half of the country above me. There are other chargers out there so it's still definitely doable though. I'm seriously thinking about purchasing a juniper model but I'm a little concerned the price will continue to drop for a year or two after it's available, due to the increase in Chinese competition, mainly byd. It's a bit like buying a new computer though. If you keep holding off for the latest and cheapest, you'll never own one.
We travelled from Bucks to Edinburgh and back in a 2021 Model 3 LFP with 66k on the clock. Travelling at normal motorway speed we averaged 4.9miles per KwH. Brilliant. Love the videos. Keep them coming 👍👍
That's cool I've done the same sort of distance in a standard range MG4 and yes it can be a bit of a challenge that's why I'm picking up an ex-demo model Y next week from Aberdeen :) and doing a similar trip down south so will let you know.
I did a trip from near Montrose to Lincoln and back this week in a 2020 Model 3 - 54k on the clock and a max range at 100% of 218 miles. I followed the Tesla’s instructions as to where I needed to stop - four stops in each direction added nearly 2 hrs each way. So a 6.5hr journey became 8.5hrs. I’m actually enthusiastic about EVs but until they’re as straightforward to use as an internal combustion car then we’re going to be at the car equivalent of ‘home computing’ prior to Windows 95 - i.e you have to be a little bit geeky and committed to learning how to make the most of them. As things stand they’re a complete faff by comparison.
Brilliant video as always. I love how you get into all the details including the charging speeds when you are at the stops and breaking down the price etc. I just really wish there were more superchargers here in Ireland where I live. Tesla seem to have forgotten about us a little over here but hopefully they will add more soon!
Great video again. We recently did just under 1,800 miles to Paris and back. I agree the car lasts far longer than my bladder for toilet breaks/ kids need a stop / need to eat etc anyway, so just charge as you do these things. Always found it charged before we were finished these things and a few times I had to go unplug as the kids were still eating 🤣
Recently did Livingston to hull in a diesel camper van. We stopped at ferrybridge but that was our second stop, had to stop at Penrith first - and that was in a diesel 😱
Never to fear with Tesla. We did 2200miles across france with mylr. Summer rush, french holidays, you name it. Not a single time waiting at chargers. Total supercharger cost, 160euros.
Fab video thank you. Just picked up my new Model Y in Southampton, 1800 mile round trip to southern France with the family next week, nervous - wish me luck!
We do that trip twice a year, it's a pleasure to drive on the Autoroutes, usually stop overnight halfway down, but it's doable in one day. Some of the Tesla chargers are in odd places off the autoroutes, but there's usually some facilities or a shopping centre nearby. Worth topping up at Folkestone Eurotunnel Superchargers (if that's the way you're going) whilst waiting for loading call; it'll give you a good run on the other side. Bonne Chance...
Used a public charger for the first time last week in my ID3. Easy peasy. I went to the Tesla public site at Sidcup because 41p not 79p and I'm a Fifer. Just get a Tesla Account everybody.
Thanks for this information I am planning a trip up to Elie in Fife in Scotland from Northampton shortly in my Tesla model Y Rwd, I would imagine I will use the same charging stops as you visited. Always enjoy your Vlogg 👍
Last two long journeys I've been over the past few weeks the SuperChargers were either deserted or max 1-2 in use out of 12-16. Thats the problem these places are always soooo busy :-)
Going up and down the country in a Tesla is easy, and I would get a Tesla on that basis. Going on holiday to Wales or the North East coast and travelling around those areas in a Tesla without easy access to fast charging might be more challenging. My ICE lease ends in 11 months and I’ve found the hours of Tesla content on YT very helpful.
Last month did a trip from North of England to Switzerland and back, via Euro-tunnel 1800 round trip. This was in just the standard range RWD model Y. And have to agree, the charging sections don't really feel like it takes any time, for the exact same reason as you, I'm ready to stop & have a meal, or a coffee etc, and by the time I've done that the car says it's ready to continue trip. My long term average for KwH, is 235, and that's including winter months. Most my charging is home charging @7p, so with my calculations, it works out about 400 Mpg. Not bad for an SUV sized vehicle.
Ong distance trips in an EV are simple in the UK. We recently did a 1,300 mile round grip to Orkney in a VW ID.3. Not once were we inconvenienced or delayed.
Great video as ever, Ian. I’d be intrigued to see you drive other EVs to compare to Tesla as I’d trust your integrity in terms of the advantages and disadvantages of the vehicles, as we know nothing is perfect.
Good video. My new Model Y (SR) is due next month. I always thought the price for Tesla Superchargers were slightly cheaper for Tesla owners than the quoted price. On the Tesla website it quotes the non Tesla owner price 41p. Appreciate this varies across the country. Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, the last thing I would want is Supercharges getting clogged up with non Tesla owners. Thanks.
My next 600 mile challenge is coming up. I'll be doing Aberdeenshire --> Larkhall --> Tebay --> That cheap(er) supercharger near the M42 --> West Sussex. I'm hoping for a V3/V4 speed record this time (M6/M5 and M25 traffic permitting).
While I agree that the journey is easy etc and we do love our EV, our old diesel would do that journey for less money even at prices today. But it’s not about what’s cheapest, as when we’re doing local or non national journeys we’re charging at home for something like 3p/mile which is where the biggest savings come in.
As good as you say it is, the faux wood still looks cheap and nasty. As a side note we can do Aberdeen to Biggin Hill (17 miles from Dartford) in less than an hour in the GS 650, and that is very comfortable.
Road-tripping in a Tesla sure sounds relaxing. We should do it more often. Going from Toronto to Niagara Falls was only some 130 kms (80 mi). We could have spent the day there and driven home in a single charge. But, we topped off when we got there and needed a pit stop anyways. And we had plenty to get back home despite hitting massive traffic (some 3. hours) getting out of the Niagara peninsula alone. BTW, did you drive using Autopilot much?
We do this trip three or four times, from Suffolk to Forres in a MY RWD and a 2020 M3 SR+ which is about 570 miles with 2 stops. 3 is more comfortable for charging and comfort.My OH is the same as your family, she wants me to charge to 100% and stop less.
I do my own math and just did 800 miles round trip. Stopped once in each direction for 30 min. No issues at all. I do not use the cars recommended stops, but I’ve been driving Tesla’s since 2012. Once you get the experience, it’s no worries at all. And I do drive the same speed as ICE vehicles! Do t charge to 100% either. Wastes time.
I’ve charged to 100% only a handful of times overnight. Otherwise what’s the point? I only go past 90% if I’m doing a super extended leg, or like on this video when we’re not ready to go yet
@@justgetatesla exactly. The problem is that Lyft and Uber drivers who bought Teslas like in the Chicago area last winter. we’re always trying to get that last 10% charge. It’s very slow and takes as long as it does to go from 0% to 90%. That led to a lot of bad press for electric vehicles, but it really is user lack of knowledge and experience. One might say that it’s really a completely different mentality to drive an electric vehicle then a gasoline vehicle, which, for the latter, you would always try to fill it up when you stop for fuel.
Long road trips in the Tesla are a breeze. I drove back from Slovenia to the UK in June in just two days with no problem at all and now with over 250,000 miles in a Tesla. I’ve never had a problem charging. I rarely require charging stops longer than what I’ve wanted for rests anyway. In brief long trips in a Tesla are relaxing, easy and enjoyable. You will never see me back in an ICE car.
So glad I have a Tesla as the supercharger network is brilliant and the car works the stops out so I don’t have too. Had the Supercharger been in place near my home when I bought my car I wouldn’t have bothered with a home charger as the cost of having the charger installed at home would easily cover my Supercharger costs for years and years. I saw a video this week that claimed the Zapmap pricing of most chargers is incorrect (cheaper than shown on Zapmap), so next time you’re somewhere Ian that has several different providers, might be interesting to see if the pricing is the same as shown on Zapmap 🤷♂️
I am one of those people who doesn't need to pee that often but I still find 3-4 hours driving is more than enough. My legs start to get restless and and I need to get out and walk around. BTW you made a mistake calculating the cost of the drive as you have to add in the last charge stop to have the same charge as what you began with.
@@justgetatesla I see your point - because you counted the cost of filling up at home (but really you probably only topped up at home). The true cost when road tripping is every supercharging stop then the final top up at home (and not the initial home charge). By doing it the way you did it you bias (slightly) the cost of the outgoing trip. Not enough to worry about but say you get home with 50% - then the real cost is all the supercharging stops plus that final top up to get you back to where you started (95%).
Really enjoyed this video, found it very informative 😊👍 I’m presuming the wifey & kids didn’t want to get involved 😅 (such a shame as they’d really enjoy it once they realise it doesn’t cost anything). Is it a standard or long range model you have?
Which bit should I be getting excited about? Our 10 year old, Astra CDTi, has just turned 140k miles, and has averaged 55.4 mpg, over the past 4k miles, on mixed driving , and would do nearer 60 mpg on a run like that, meaning it was probably achievable on a tank of fuel, which granted may have cost around £15 more, but without the depreciation, and less faffing about. It will be interesting what numbers you get after 140k miles.
Price per mile is a key metric lots of people overlook. With Tesla prices, EV is cheaper to fuel per mile than ICE but with Gridserve / Instavolt / etc prices then the boot is on the other foot. This is not a Tesla thing as you keep implying, my ID.4 has average 7.5p per mile over 46k miles in 3.5 years. Compare to my previous diesel Karoq which averaged 15p a mile or our Citigo which averages 12p per mile. Totally agree that charging when the humans need a stop means EV journeys are no longer than ICE journeys and more relaxing - no more stopping for fuel laving the services. We did north Wales to Nice (France) last year with ease, using Tesla chargers in the main as practically all are open to all in France.
Just for kicks I calculated the cost of driving a Toyota RAV4 582 Miles where I live. I recently did a road rip (just over 360 miles one way) in a RAV4 non hybrid and got 36 Miles Per Gallon. The average price per gas today in my home state (Alabama) is $3.08 (2.413 British Pounds) per Imperial Gallon for regular unleaded. At any rate, using USA Gallons, it will take just over 16 gallons to go 582 Miles. (582/36=16.16). A 582 mile trip in the Southern USA in a RAV4 would be around 49.77 USD or 39.01 GBP (based on today's exchange rate). On my 360mile road trip we stopped for gas to fill up when we left (7-8 minutes). stopped at a rest stop along the interstate (
Thanks for the detail! I do confess to not knowing the US charging costs, and of course you gas costs less than ours. We don’t need to worry about “level 2” charging though as our voltage is double yours… 😏
@@justgetatesla Ya, that is one of the cost of owning an EV in the USA. You have to pay an electrician to install a 220 or 240 Volt plug in your garage/driveway. Basically the same plug we run Clothes dryers and Ovens on. All our standard plugs are 110 or 120 volt. If you try to charge an EV on a 110 volt outlet you will get about 1% an hour charge rate. Which is fine if you only drive 30 miles a day or work from home and only drive on weekends. But for most people it would not work. As you can tell, I've researched EV's in depth. Yes, I even had a spreadsheet.
Yeah, in the UK, a Gallon of petrol is about £6.50, so 16 gallons of fuel is about £104, or $132. When I first got my Tesla, just using the charger it came with, that was 10 amps @ 240v, I never had any issues, we get 6 hours cheap charging overnight so that 2.4kw per hour, so in 6 hours about 60 miles, daily commute was only around 32 miles. But we did end up getting a dedicated charger anyway, that gives 32 Amp, so about 180 miles in that 6 hours. But yeah, with 110v system, if say you only get 30 miles, I can see how just using the home charger would be a big stumbling block. For us, having an EV has worked out really well, but I can see how there currently not for everyone. A guy once came up to us asking about ours, and he mentioned he lived in a flat, but I had to be brutally honest with him, if you don't have off street parking get an ICE instead.
@@justgetatesla very interesting to hear. So many people saying that they have to plan long trips around charging their electric cars. Good to see that the experience is getting closer to filling up a petrol tank.
Sorry Ian to have to pull you up, but your out calls are flawed.... The £12.61 starting from home charge is not relevant to this trip...that cost is for electricity already previously used. The total charging costs for the trip are Edinburgh, Ferrybridge plus the cost to fill to the original soc that you set off with (95%) at Dartford, that would then give you the cost of fuel "used" for the trip, so will be more than 9.7p/mile outbound. Of course the return trip will include the top up cost at home back to the original 95%. A follow-up video quantifying the cost of electric used for the whole trip would be a more useful cost per mile comparison. An interesting and informative video demonstrating real-world EV ownership and long distance travel experiences.
@@justgetatesla Charge mine to 100% before long journey, for two reasons, the car tells me to because it's the LFP variant, and it's just the standard range, so want to get the max out of that first run.. :) Don't seem to have any issues with regen, seems to kick in pretty quick after journey starts, might not be as aggressive, but still generally not needing to press the break pedal, so nothing wasted.
So basically it means the same as having an ice car and having a meal and loo stop, difference being the cost would be subsequently higher and at no loss of time delay ,great video showing the die hard EV haters that they are wrong in their determination to prove that ev adoption is a bad thing .enjoy your holiday break .
You mean like that Diesel Land Rover that burnt down Luton Airport carpark.. :) Joking aside, statistically EVs are 20 times less likely to catch fire than petrol and diesel cars. Ironically the older the EV the less likely a fire too, thermal runaway is more likely in a new battery than an old, the cells become more tougher as they age etc.
The point is YOU HAVE to stop for a period of time to charge whether you want to or not. An i.c.e driver does not. A clear difference between e.v. and i.c.e.💩
I commute 135 miles a day. And never have to stop in my ev. In my petrol car I would have to stop every other day and go into a petrol station ⛽️. Oh and pay £70 instead of £5 .
I have a "nasty"deisel out of necessity. Ian has had a pleasant trip in his choice of car and is happy with the result. That's the main thing and thanks Ian for the breakdown of figures.
@@ar6904I used to do 200 miles a day commute and with a car that ran on LPG with a range of 240 miles. Refueling every day, 12 minute per day, an hour wasted a week. EV time loss would have been < 1 minute. ICE drivers forget that we know this but they don't because unlike ICE only drivers with zero EV experience, We've done both.
@@billienomates1606 you are absolutely right 😊. But my Model 3 LR lasts almost 500km and I will never ever drive 500 km without a stop. And this applied to trips with my former ICE car as well. At some point I have to pee, I feel a little tired and need to stretch my legs, I‘m a little hungry. But the typical ICE driver doesn’t, right? 😉
On a recent holiday to north Devon I charged 100% on solar cost £0.00, arrived at AB&B and plugged in to dedicated charger - free. Drove around for the week, and charged up to 100% for trip home cost for week which was free. Got home and plugged in and recharged car on Solar at a cost of £0.00 so the whole 650 miles cost nothing for the whole week
Great video. I agree. Just did 550 miles from UK to Germany. There are probably more fast chargers than petrol stations along the route we take. I have done this trip many times in the past 25 years with and without family. I need to take breaks regardless if EV or ICE. I have a MYLR. To me this is just a car. I don't compare ICE vs EV anymore. It does the job and the family likes it.
It was great to see the family 😂 also the prices. Nice informative video. Well done 👏
Really good video! I think it is a very valuable resource for people who are new to the EV world, like myself. I would love to be able to go to Paris from Scotland but was very unsure as to how that would work in practise. I agree with other commenters, you would have a break or two in any car so charging actually makes you stop to have a break which makes you more awake and aware when doing long journeys. Really enjoying your content.
Fantastic and looked like an easy trip. Must say I stop around 2.5 to 3 hours, then after 2.5 hours as definately ready for more coffee and a leg stretch at that point. Planning to stop where there is food is simple to do and is something you would want.
...unless you drive an ICE vehicle...where you must rush as quickly as possible to your destination without stopping ....so I've heard😂
On my current roadtrip, UK>France >Spain>Portugal >Spain>France>UK, we still halfway, with around 1700 miles clocked so far.
We did UK>France>Luxembourg>Austria>Switzerland>Italy>France>UK a few weeks ago. 3700 miles all in 😀
Our recent trip was UK - France - Spain (Madrid) for a BBQ, then back up to Normandy and home.
3000 miles and 8.4p per mile.
Next time could well be Portugal.
Our diesel stays at home, just for local trips. 😅
@@djtaylorutube which is the way it seems to be going. Most people would say they would drive the ice car on long trips especially non EV owners ( that's me at the present time) yet the cost of the longer trips are dictating the opposite. Once the charging infrastructure is adequate and charge speeds increase, it'll be a no-brainer. My country of Australia has a long way to go for it's charging infrastructure unless you are close to the capital cities. When you go for a drive into any of the capital cities, the number of ev's are amazing. I'm around 250 kilometres from my closest Tesla supercharger and there are none at present in the northern half of the country above me. There are other chargers out there so it's still definitely doable though. I'm seriously thinking about purchasing a juniper model but I'm a little concerned the price will continue to drop for a year or two after it's available, due to the increase in Chinese competition, mainly byd.
It's a bit like buying a new computer though. If you keep holding off for the latest and cheapest, you'll never own one.
Love using the tesla network. And with a teener lasting a month get cheap charging for my bmw.
On winter tyres as well. Impressive. I have had a Y and now got a 3. Great cars. Driving is sooooo much simpler in a Tesla smugmobile.
All season tyres, not winter
Love the road trip videos
We travelled from Bucks to Edinburgh and back in a 2021 Model 3 LFP with 66k on the clock. Travelling at normal motorway speed we averaged 4.9miles per KwH. Brilliant.
Love the videos. Keep them coming 👍👍
That's cool I've done the same sort of distance in a standard range MG4 and yes it can be a bit of a challenge that's why I'm picking up an ex-demo model Y next week from Aberdeen :) and doing a similar trip down south so will let you know.
I did a trip from near Montrose to Lincoln and back this week in a 2020 Model 3 - 54k on the clock and a max range at 100% of 218 miles. I followed the Tesla’s instructions as to where I needed to stop - four stops in each direction added nearly 2 hrs each way. So a 6.5hr journey became 8.5hrs.
I’m actually enthusiastic about EVs but until they’re as straightforward to use as an internal combustion car then we’re going to be at the car equivalent of ‘home computing’ prior to Windows 95 - i.e you have to be a little bit geeky and committed to learning how to make the most of them. As things stand they’re a complete faff by comparison.
Brilliant video as always. I love how you get into all the details including the charging speeds when you are at the stops and breaking down the price etc. I just really wish there were more superchargers here in Ireland where I live. Tesla seem to have forgotten about us a little over here but hopefully they will add more soon!
Great video again. We recently did just under 1,800 miles to Paris and back. I agree the car lasts far longer than my bladder for toilet breaks/ kids need a stop / need to eat etc anyway, so just charge as you do these things. Always found it charged before we were finished these things and a few times I had to go unplug as the kids were still eating 🤣
Recently did Livingston to hull in a diesel camper van. We stopped at ferrybridge but that was our second stop, had to stop at Penrith first - and that was in a diesel 😱
Never to fear with Tesla. We did 2200miles across france with mylr. Summer rush, french holidays, you name it. Not a single time waiting at chargers. Total supercharger cost, 160euros.
Fab video thank you. Just picked up my new Model Y in Southampton, 1800 mile round trip to southern France with the family next week, nervous - wish me luck!
We do that trip twice a year, it's a pleasure to drive on the Autoroutes, usually stop overnight halfway down, but it's doable in one day. Some of the Tesla chargers are in odd places off the autoroutes, but there's usually some facilities or a shopping centre nearby. Worth topping up at Folkestone Eurotunnel Superchargers (if that's the way you're going) whilst waiting for loading call; it'll give you a good run on the other side. Bonne Chance...
Lovely hope had great time
Used a public charger for the first time last week in my ID3. Easy peasy. I went to the Tesla public site at Sidcup because 41p not 79p and I'm a Fifer. Just get a Tesla Account everybody.
@AndyWWW Couldn't agree more! Price competition is needed from the other CPOs
Thanks for this information I am planning a trip up to Elie in Fife in Scotland from Northampton shortly in my Tesla model Y Rwd, I would imagine I will use the same charging stops as you visited. Always enjoy your Vlogg 👍
The correct terminology Ian is.... "are we there yet??" lolol
Last two long journeys I've been over the past few weeks the SuperChargers were either deserted or max 1-2 in use out of 12-16. Thats the problem these places are always soooo busy :-)
Going up and down the country in a Tesla is easy, and I would get a Tesla on that basis. Going on holiday to Wales or the North East coast and travelling around those areas in a Tesla without easy access to fast charging might be more challenging. My ICE lease ends in 11 months and I’ve found the hours of Tesla content on YT very helpful.
Which NE coast do you have in mind as being a problem?
@@justgetatesla Whitby area. The neatest SC is Scotch Corner.
Last month did a trip from North of England to Switzerland and back, via Euro-tunnel 1800 round trip. This was in just the standard range RWD model Y. And have to agree, the charging sections don't really feel like it takes any time, for the exact same reason as you, I'm ready to stop & have a meal, or a coffee etc, and by the time I've done that the car says it's ready to continue trip.
My long term average for KwH, is 235, and that's including winter months. Most my charging is home charging @7p, so with my calculations, it works out about 400 Mpg. Not bad for an SUV sized vehicle.
Ong distance trips in an EV are simple in the UK. We recently did a 1,300 mile round grip to Orkney in a VW ID.3. Not once were we inconvenienced or delayed.
Great video as ever, Ian. I’d be intrigued to see you drive other EVs to compare to Tesla as I’d trust your integrity in terms of the advantages and disadvantages of the vehicles, as we know nothing is perfect.
Good video. My new Model Y (SR) is due next month. I always thought the price for Tesla Superchargers were slightly cheaper for Tesla owners than the quoted price. On the Tesla website it quotes the non Tesla owner price 41p. Appreciate this varies across the country. Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, the last thing I would want is Supercharges getting clogged up with non Tesla owners.
Thanks.
My next 600 mile challenge is coming up. I'll be doing Aberdeenshire --> Larkhall --> Tebay --> That cheap(er) supercharger near the M42 --> West Sussex. I'm hoping for a V3/V4 speed record this time (M6/M5 and M25 traffic permitting).
While I agree that the journey is easy etc and we do love our EV, our old diesel would do that journey for less money even at prices today.
But it’s not about what’s cheapest, as when we’re doing local or non national journeys we’re charging at home for something like 3p/mile which is where the biggest savings come in.
2 weeks time has a full costs comparison of 600 supercharger miles vs my Volvo S90 diesel
As good as you say it is, the faux wood still looks cheap and nasty. As a side note we can do Aberdeen to Biggin Hill (17 miles from Dartford) in less than an hour in the GS 650, and that is very comfortable.
You can do 600 miles in less than an hour on a motorbike?
The Ferrybridge expansion opened today. 12 to 18 stalls. (also South Mimms got 24 extra today too)
Road-tripping in a Tesla sure sounds relaxing. We should do it more often. Going from Toronto to Niagara Falls was only some 130 kms (80 mi). We could have spent the day there and driven home in a single charge. But, we topped off when we got there and needed a pit stop anyways. And we had plenty to get back home despite hitting massive traffic (some 3. hours) getting out of the Niagara peninsula alone. BTW, did you drive using Autopilot much?
I use autopilot when I am in the mood for it. Other times I like to drive. Depends!
We do this trip three or four times, from Suffolk to Forres in a MY RWD and a 2020 M3 SR+ which is about 570 miles with 2 stops. 3 is more comfortable for charging and comfort.My OH is the same as your family, she wants me to charge to 100% and stop less.
Which takes longer!
Most people will want to stop every 3 hours or so, however there are some that will drive 6/7 hours straight, they can buy diesel.
Great video just what is needed to encourage the change to EV , how do other charger suppliers justify charging almost double per KWH
Yay Dartford.
I spent a fortnight in Dartford - one day
I do my own math and just did 800 miles round trip. Stopped once in each direction for 30 min. No issues at all. I do not use the cars recommended stops, but I’ve been driving Tesla’s since 2012. Once you get the experience, it’s no worries at all. And I do drive the same speed as ICE vehicles! Do t charge to 100% either. Wastes time.
I’ve charged to 100% only a handful of times overnight. Otherwise what’s the point? I only go past 90% if I’m doing a super extended leg, or like on this video when we’re not ready to go yet
@@justgetatesla exactly. The problem is that Lyft and Uber drivers who bought Teslas like in the Chicago area last winter. we’re always trying to get that last 10% charge. It’s very slow and takes as long as it does to go from 0% to 90%. That led to a lot of bad press for electric vehicles, but it really is user lack of knowledge and experience. One might say that it’s really a completely different mentality to drive an electric vehicle then a gasoline vehicle, which, for the latter, you would always try to fill it up when you stop for fuel.
Long road trips in the Tesla are a breeze. I drove back from Slovenia to the UK in June in just two days with no problem at all and now with over 250,000 miles in a Tesla. I’ve never had a problem charging. I rarely require charging stops longer than what I’ve wanted for rests anyway. In brief long trips in a Tesla are relaxing, easy and enjoyable. You will never see me back in an ICE car.
So glad I have a Tesla as the supercharger network is brilliant and the car works the stops out so I don’t have too. Had the Supercharger been in place near my home when I bought my car I wouldn’t have bothered with a home charger as the cost of having the charger installed at home would easily cover my Supercharger costs for years and years. I saw a video this week that claimed the Zapmap pricing of most chargers is incorrect (cheaper than shown on Zapmap), so next time you’re somewhere Ian that has several different providers, might be interesting to see if the pricing is the same as shown on Zapmap 🤷♂️
I am one of those people who doesn't need to pee that often but I still find 3-4 hours driving is more than enough. My legs start to get restless and and I need to get out and walk around. BTW you made a mistake calculating the cost of the drive as you have to add in the last charge stop to have the same charge as what you began with.
You calculate what you consume on the trip. Not what you refill after the trip for future trips
@@justgetatesla I see your point - because you counted the cost of filling up at home (but really you probably only topped up at home). The true cost when road tripping is every supercharging stop then the final top up at home (and not the initial home charge). By doing it the way you did it you bias (slightly) the cost of the outgoing trip. Not enough to worry about but say you get home with 50% - then the real cost is all the supercharging stops plus that final top up to get you back to where you started (95%).
Really enjoyed this video, found it very informative 😊👍 I’m presuming the wifey & kids didn’t want to get involved 😅 (such a shame as they’d really enjoy it once they realise it doesn’t cost anything). Is it a standard or long range model you have?
Long Range
Which bit should I be getting excited about?
Our 10 year old, Astra CDTi, has just turned 140k miles, and has averaged 55.4 mpg, over the past 4k miles, on mixed driving , and would do nearer 60 mpg on a run like that, meaning it was probably achievable on a tank of fuel, which granted may have cost around £15 more, but without the depreciation, and less faffing about.
It will be interesting what numbers you get after 140k miles.
I had an Astra diesel estate way back when. I’m reasonably confident they depreciate to zero like any other car
Price per mile is a key metric lots of people overlook. With Tesla prices, EV is cheaper to fuel per mile than ICE but with Gridserve / Instavolt / etc prices then the boot is on the other foot. This is not a Tesla thing as you keep implying, my ID.4 has average 7.5p per mile over 46k miles in 3.5 years. Compare to my previous diesel Karoq which averaged 15p a mile or our Citigo which averages 12p per mile.
Totally agree that charging when the humans need a stop means EV journeys are no longer than ICE journeys and more relaxing - no more stopping for fuel laving the services. We did north Wales to Nice (France) last year with ease, using Tesla chargers in the main as practically all are open to all in France.
I believe the model Y can tow 1600kg. Can it use navigation based autopilot whilst towing?
Why does yours say Boot and Bonnet and mine, 3LR, says Frunk and Trunk?
Dunno
It changed after a recent software update.
Change your menu language from US English to UK English 😂
Wish it could be Boot and Froot
You wouldn't count the home charging because that was from the previous trip you made, so actually it's cost £45ish around 8p per mile.
You might take some of that coat off, but I did put most of that charge in for this trip
Just for kicks I calculated the cost of driving a Toyota RAV4 582 Miles where I live. I recently did a road rip (just over 360 miles one way) in a RAV4 non hybrid and got 36 Miles Per Gallon. The average price per gas today in my home state (Alabama) is $3.08 (2.413 British Pounds) per Imperial Gallon for regular unleaded. At any rate, using USA Gallons, it will take just over 16 gallons to go 582 Miles. (582/36=16.16). A 582 mile trip in the Southern USA in a RAV4 would be around 49.77 USD or 39.01 GBP (based on today's exchange rate).
On my 360mile road trip we stopped for gas to fill up when we left (7-8 minutes). stopped at a rest stop along the interstate (
Thanks for the detail! I do confess to not knowing the US charging costs, and of course you gas costs less than ours.
We don’t need to worry about “level 2” charging though as our voltage is double yours… 😏
@@justgetatesla Ya, that is one of the cost of owning an EV in the USA. You have to pay an electrician to install a 220 or 240 Volt plug in your garage/driveway. Basically the same plug we run Clothes dryers and Ovens on. All our standard plugs are 110 or 120 volt.
If you try to charge an EV on a 110 volt outlet you will get about 1% an hour charge rate. Which is fine if you only drive 30 miles a day or work from home and only drive on weekends. But for most people it would not work.
As you can tell, I've researched EV's in depth. Yes, I even had a spreadsheet.
Yeah, in the UK, a Gallon of petrol is about £6.50, so 16 gallons of fuel is about £104, or $132.
When I first got my Tesla, just using the charger it came with, that was 10 amps @ 240v, I never had any issues, we get 6 hours cheap charging overnight so that 2.4kw per hour, so in 6 hours about 60 miles, daily commute was only around 32 miles. But we did end up getting a dedicated charger anyway, that gives 32 Amp, so about 180 miles in that 6 hours. But yeah, with 110v system, if say you only get 30 miles, I can see how just using the home charger would be a big stumbling block.
For us, having an EV has worked out really well, but I can see how there currently not for everyone. A guy once came up to us asking about ours, and he mentioned he lived in a flat, but I had to be brutally honest with him, if you don't have off street parking get an ICE instead.
Just wondering if you are having to plan your longer trips around the electric car charging?
No, the car tells us where to stop
@@justgetatesla very interesting to hear. So many people saying that they have to plan long trips around charging their electric cars. Good to see that the experience is getting closer to filling up a petrol tank.
Don’t stop to charge, charge when you stop.
McDonalds definitely isn’t a treat!
Great that the family were all good sports. Great video.
Sorry Ian to have to pull you up, but your out calls are flawed....
The £12.61 starting from home charge is not relevant to this trip...that cost is for electricity already previously used.
The total charging costs for the trip are Edinburgh, Ferrybridge plus the cost to fill to the original soc that you set off with (95%) at Dartford, that would then give you the cost of fuel "used" for the trip, so will be more than 9.7p/mile outbound.
Of course the return trip will include the top up cost at home back to the original 95%.
A follow-up video quantifying the cost of electric used for the whole trip would be a more useful cost per mile comparison.
An interesting and informative video demonstrating real-world EV ownership and long distance travel experiences.
why did you not charge to 100% at home?
Because then I have zero regen.
@@justgetatesla Charge mine to 100% before long journey, for two reasons, the car tells me to because it's the LFP variant, and it's just the standard range, so want to get the max out of that first run.. :) Don't seem to have any issues with regen, seems to kick in pretty quick after journey starts, might not be as aggressive, but still generally not needing to press the break pedal, so nothing wasted.
So basically it means the same as having an ice car and having a meal and loo stop, difference being the cost would be subsequently higher and at no loss of time delay ,great video showing the die hard EV haters that they are wrong in their determination to prove that ev adoption is a bad thing .enjoy your holiday break .
It was just pure luck that your battery didn’t catch fire /s
It was! It’s set on fire three times since I lost this video. Hello from hell 🔥🔥🔥
You mean like that Diesel Land Rover that burnt down Luton Airport carpark.. :)
Joking aside, statistically EVs are 20 times less likely to catch fire than petrol and diesel cars. Ironically the older the EV the less likely a fire too, thermal runaway is more likely in a new battery than an old, the cells become more tougher as they age etc.
The point is YOU HAVE to stop for a period of time to charge whether you want to or not. An i.c.e driver does not. A clear difference between e.v. and i.c.e.💩
I commute 135 miles a day. And never have to stop in my ev. In my petrol car I would have to stop every other day and go into a petrol station ⛽️. Oh and pay £70 instead of £5 .
I have a "nasty"deisel out of necessity. Ian has had a pleasant trip in his choice of car and is happy with the result. That's the main thing and thanks Ian for the breakdown of figures.
@@ar6904I used to do 200 miles a day commute and with a car that ran on LPG with a range of 240 miles.
Refueling every day, 12 minute per day, an hour wasted a week.
EV time loss would have been < 1 minute.
ICE drivers forget that we know this but they don't because unlike ICE only drivers with zero EV experience, We've done both.
@@billienomates1606 you are absolutely right 😊. But my Model 3 LR lasts almost 500km and I will never ever drive 500 km without a stop. And this applied to trips with my former ICE car as well. At some point I have to pee, I feel a little tired and need to stretch my legs, I‘m a little hungry. But the typical ICE driver doesn’t, right? 😉
I hear this shit from people like Billienomates all the time. People who claim to drive 8 hours non-stop. It’s nonsense and they know it