Hermitcraft's Biggest Mistake

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2022
  • Hermitcraft's Biggest Mistake
    This is Hermitcraft's Biggest Mistake! Once I explain it, you'll understand! It has everything to do with the rift in Grian's latest episodes, where they go through the portal to the Empires SMP, leading to the Hermitcraft Empires SMP crossover. Yeah, it's epic.
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    Update as of 2/12/2023 - changed the thumbnail! Looks way better now.
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Комментарии • 354

  • @RealKeeganJames
    @RealKeeganJames  Год назад +23

    UPDATED VIDEO!
    ruclips.net/video/lDtvxrPy5FE/видео.html

  • @Nephelangelo
    @Nephelangelo Год назад +1608

    The fact that this video can generate so many views off of Hermitcraft’s popularity is proof that Hermitcraft is doing just fine.

    • @VassalRavenKills
      @VassalRavenKills Год назад +42

      And the award for the best comment goes toooooo…

    • @MysteriousSubstance
      @MysteriousSubstance Год назад +8

      So true

    • @defeatSpace
      @defeatSpace Год назад +11

      Sadly, viewership for Hermitcraft in general has gone down like 15% from the king arc and the crossover.

    • @VassalRavenKills
      @VassalRavenKills Год назад

      @@defeatSpace any research do prove your statement? Those 15% are out of the blue.

    • @Messiwwww
      @Messiwwww Год назад +2

      28 k vies ain’t good lad hermitcraft and mincrafts dead

  • @elliebeezz5583
    @elliebeezz5583 Год назад +380

    Before grian does these things he always checks with the rest of the group to make shire its fine. He doesnt go behind the other hermits backs intentionally

    • @BrimstoneMoth
      @BrimstoneMoth 4 месяца назад +1

      its more about the fact, that its not what the ''core'' community wants to watch, but another target group, and that makes people that have been watching for decades, stop watching. so he is basically forcing hermitcraft to do what he wants. so if their purpose was to kick the decade long followers in the butt then mission accomplished. veteran here.

    • @cipherchill7632
      @cipherchill7632 Месяц назад

      @@BrimstoneMoth If this made those "Fans" stop watching then they weren't real fans.. This whole thing is stupid. Hermitcraft isn't dying and it isn't because of Grian. You got to remember that the server Owner Xisuma also wanted the collab. The Hermits as one decide on the stuff they want to do.

  • @jadenbenoit2646
    @jadenbenoit2646 Год назад +43

    Bro just threw grian under the bus then talked about tag for 3 min

  • @inkely
    @inkely Год назад +418

    As a viewer watching since Grian joined, it has not gone “wrong” it’s gotten extremely entertaining. With the crossover, i loved it and it really gave the Hermits a chance to do “lore”

    • @ferociouscupcake7952
      @ferociouscupcake7952 Год назад +9

      That’s really true.

    • @FunkinDraven
      @FunkinDraven Год назад +18

      I got introduced to hermitcraft thru Grian so I fully agree with this statement

    • @DaPuffa
      @DaPuffa Год назад +1

      Literally this comment, bro this vid is so attention seeking

  • @alexcowie3913
    @alexcowie3913 Год назад +182

    Grain is why hermitcraft is so good .He makes the series fresh and his builds are so unique

    • @TheVampireCabin
      @TheVampireCabin Год назад +16

      100% I've tried to watch seasons before Grian got there and I found them to be extremely boring. I started watching in season 6 onward and that was when Hermitcraft got really good.

    • @KlausJepps
      @KlausJepps Год назад +7

      Mumbo is very important to Hermitcraft as well, I hope he will return though have a fearful doubt that he won't.

    • @tomatoblate2170
      @tomatoblate2170 Год назад +1

      Who is this “Grain” character?

    • @glidersuzuki5572
      @glidersuzuki5572 Год назад +4

      This is almost wrong. Even without the grian, I would be totally fine with other hermits. God etho, doc, bdubs, ren, sweet keralis,... the most goes on. Heck the tcg madness is real

    • @kiratwo4u
      @kiratwo4u Год назад +1

      @@glidersuzuki5572 CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER??

  • @dorbacal
    @dorbacal Год назад +45

    you didn't provide a single good reason why this was hermitcraft's biggest mistake

  • @Poopsticle_256
    @Poopsticle_256 Год назад +249

    You brought up the point of new viewers of Hermitcraft possibly being confused with this whole crossover event, but I believe the Hermitcraft Recap series works to alleviate some of that confusion. Now of course, not everyone knows about it, I know I didn’t until this season, but with the narrator of the show being part of Empires, it’s mentioned quite a bit in a lot of the Hermits’ episodes.

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад +21

      That's a great point, actually. The only reason I didn't really bring that up was because Hermitcraft Recap is heavily branded as unofficial, but with the biggest hermits interacting with the narrator and referencing the recap existing, it definitely brings viewers to go check it out. Again, though, my main gripe was that it's unofficial. Some people will definitely still be confused in part to the recap not really reaching as far as it once did. But you did bring up a great point!

    • @Sora-iz2fp
      @Sora-iz2fp Год назад +1

      I found that argument (from him, not you) weak tbh. When k first got into Hermitcraft in S8, I tried watching the most recent episode of someone’s and I was beyond confused with all these different people that were in it. That being said, I think it’s fair to say any collab with more than 1 or two other person even between hermits can be very confusing for new fans. Should we dis-encourage collabs as a whole?

    • @cylewhittington5
      @cylewhittington5 Год назад +3

      No, discouraging collabs altogether kind of defeats the whole purpose of hermitcraft since it is focused on all kinds of players interacting with each other. New players would be confused if they randomly started watching an episode later in the season than at the beginning naturally, that is also true for any other kind of series whether it be a show or on RUclips. The point of this having episodes by each creator is to have new people watch more episodes from one creator and want to see videos from other creators

    • @keyos4398
      @keyos4398 Год назад

      I am a new to Hermitcraft started watching this season. i found it by accident. I didnt know most of the Hermits which werent in double life or third life Series. And the Crossover was a bit confusing at the Start but not more than Hermitcraft for me. I liked the Crossover. You really saw how they ( hermits and empires )had fun seeing the other Server.

    • @aidennn5329
      @aidennn5329 Год назад +4

      @@RealKeeganJames dude, of course people are gonna be confused? Some viewers only watch like 1 content creator, ofc they wont know everything. Like take myself for example, during season 6 i had no idea what convex was, but a little google search, asking around the fandom, i knew what it was. Its not that hard, if they dont know what empires smp is, just open google, search empires smp, boom you now know what it is.
      Besides, the content creators play for themselves, its not always for the viewers. Take mumbo for example, he literally got burnt out because the content he was making was for the viewers, not himself, causing him to have no fun in playing mc. You said it at the beginning, hermitcraft is basically just a server with experienced minecrafters playing and seeing what they can do in mc to make it entertaining. So if they wanted to make a crossover, if they wanted to invite their friends over to the server and vice versa, let them. They want to establish war on one another? Let them. Its their server, their game, let them play however they want to play it
      Also thats why they have a discord server, they discuss those big moments with one another before actually going through just to see if anyone is against it or to let them know
      I think people like who are against the crossover are the reason why content creators are afraid to pursue content outside of what they always do. I mean yes, its their job to entertain their viewers, but they need to have fun as well in what they’re doing and not feel forced to do so. Meaning they can do whatever they need to feel comfortable and have fun. If someone doesn’t like their new content, they can deal with it! But be they should so it respectfully and be quietly

  • @siamcheese
    @siamcheese Год назад +119

    I’d like to address some major issues
    A: a crossover will help hermitcraft grow as a net, not damage it in anyway
    B: while it is true that new viewers will be confused when just joining hermitcraft, the same would happen regardless of the crossover. I think a majority of new viewers end up watching hermitcraft from episode one, regardless of when they enter the series

    • @keyos4398
      @keyos4398 Год назад +5

      I started watching this Season and didnt know many of the Hermits and i was confused the same when i started watching as when the Crossover started. But they did a good Job explaining most of the relevant stuff for me at least.

  • @vandithshenoy1924
    @vandithshenoy1924 Год назад +8

    bro just milked the entire hermitcraft fanbase

  • @andrewbloom7694
    @andrewbloom7694 Год назад +417

    Honestly Hermitcraft wouldn't still be as popular as it is without him. It's not a coincidence that it's popularity really took off after he joined. The thing is despite the name Hermits, most viewers honestly don't enjoy just watching one person play without collabs with others. And Grian is the one who increased the number of them. All his events and storylines are explicitly designed to allow lots of interaction between the hermits. And if you watch the earlier seasons, you can easily see that the vast majority of them seem far more engaged than they used to, and also sound like they are having a lot more fun. Cause who wouldn't want to hang out and create fun stories with friends?
    As for the crossover, I really don't see how this can do anything but increase viewership. I started watching Lizzie and Joel after the crossover, I am sure plenty of Empires fans did the reverse. I also don't really see how new fans would get confused, because they always say "welcome to the Empires/Hermitcraft crossover" in the intros, and they always put it in the title too. But even if some do, the number of them who decide they don't like it cause of that will be dwarfed by the existing fans of both smps watching MORE or starting to watch other creators. And again, this was all spearheaded by Grian, but these decisions are made by unanimous consent. If the others hadn't liked it, they wouldn't have approved it. Same deal with the civil wars, the moon last season, demise, etc. And only 2 or 3 decided not to go, everyone else did, and they clearly had the option not to.

    • @luanaastralis9991
      @luanaastralis9991 Год назад +15

      They are still having the same amount of fun and engaging, it probably just seems like it as people and their content change throughout the years

    • @mochiboy7750
      @mochiboy7750 Год назад +1

      It's just too scripted and childish with him. I started watching hermitcraft, because of grian, but I like every single hermit more than his vids tbh

    • @OffBrandPluto
      @OffBrandPluto Год назад +14

      @@mochiboy7750 then don’t watch him. simple. no need to be rude about it (sorry if you were being nice i can’t tell)

    • @Booklat1
      @Booklat1 Год назад +1

      Hermitcraft didn’t take off just because of Grian ffs
      It was minecraft 1.13, one of the most popular versions ever. Minecraft as a whole became a lot more popular in this time.

  • @nerokipe
    @nerokipe Год назад +445

    As a herhitcraft viewer since season 5 I am quite happy with the crossover, it adds a lot of fresh people and content for these creators to work with , and I feel like it was a nice ad-on to the original concept of hermitcraft. More creators and more people being added will expant the story and creativity of this server, at least from what I've seen so far.

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад +7

      Hey, it’s the guy from my Minecraft Talent Show video!

    • @headstanding_Penguin
      @headstanding_Penguin Год назад +5

      As someone watching since S1, I get weirded out by all the storylines.
      I liked the crossover for the interactions between creators but I don't like the lore or scripted story stuff on HC.

    • @iancrow6507
      @iancrow6507 Год назад +6

      ​@@headstanding_Penguin you don't have to listen to the lore, you can just watch the video.

    • @headstanding_Penguin
      @headstanding_Penguin Год назад +2

      @@iancrow6507 well... no?
      I can try to ignore the lore, but I can't watch the video without listening to it (or skipping bits), unless you suggest watching the HC videos muted, which would be stupid...
      And it's not just the lore, it is also the more skripted "acting" and builds and events which are not only audio, they are visual too.

    • @KlausJepps
      @KlausJepps Год назад

      @@headstanding_Penguin Over the last few months I've watched from Mumbo entering HC in season 2. And I understand what you mean about the acting which I do agree with. Mumbo doesn't do much of the acting really, and that may be one of the reasons I enjoy watching the dude. I hope he returns to HC, since for me it has gone downhill the last year where he's been missing.

  • @carlospallete3030
    @carlospallete3030 Год назад +43

    was that it? that was the whole criticism? click bait video

  • @September2468
    @September2468 Год назад +155

    But as an empires viewer I think this has been great for the Empire they’ve been building so much and helping them out so much And I’m gonna be honest I didn’t even know of hermit craft existence well I did, but I didn’t know what it was really and now I even follow some of the creators because I was watching empires before

    • @oklol7799
      @oklol7799 Год назад +7

      Nice! I recommend watching some old seasons. Especially Grian’s perspective starting with season 6. Lots of fun

    • @sammie3277
      @sammie3277 Год назад +4

      Ive been wondering if any of the Empires member are going to use the farm after they leave. It would be a shame to waste perfectly good items. I know for sure some will like the raid tower and the copper farm because they were placed in other parts of Empires.

    • @thehyperchargedcucco3379
      @thehyperchargedcucco3379 Год назад +12

      @@jamesfoxsmith get ratioed

    • @luanaastralis9991
      @luanaastralis9991 Год назад +1

      @@jamesfoxsmith as opposed to the non childish roleplay on heremitcraft?

    • @spinthepickle1244
      @spinthepickle1244 Год назад +3

      @@jamesfoxsmith I don't find the role play childish. Imaginative improv is fun and engaging for me to watch. But if role play isn't your thing, it's not your thing.

  • @liriomusic4391
    @liriomusic4391 Год назад +10

    You literally made a video called "hermitcraft biggest mistake" and proceeded to describe the most fun and interesting thing to ever happen in hermitcraft history

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад

      And talked about how it the planning of it interrupted other fun and interesting things too, yeah

  • @zorod5475
    @zorod5475 Год назад +89

    So your argument is that new viewers will be confused? That is the worst argument.
    A crossover event is 1 a gift to long term viewers from both SMPs. 2 a way to get cross promotion between the servers and share audiences with similar interests. 3 gives fans something to talk about and promote both servers.
    The fan base of both can only grow from this event, and why in the world would new viewers just watch the crossover episodes. New viewers would go back and watch the whole season. You need a serious lesson in marketing.

    • @ugh2300
      @ugh2300 Год назад +8

      You need a serious lesson in going outside and touching grass

    • @zorod5475
      @zorod5475 Год назад +29

      @ÆÜGH Crossovers have been happening since the beginning of wide spread media.
      A common practice since the time of time of the greeks. It is common in books, comics, tv, movies, and internet media. And touch grass is your best comeback?

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад +6

      Saying "this is the worst argument" is honestly a bit harsh. I made sure to clearly state that the confusion hasn't happened to many people, but there's got to be at least a few people that are confused. It's not even the main point of the argument - I was mainly arguing that the crossover had happened way too quickly after the last event. I totally get the value gained from having a crossover like this, but again, it had just happened way too fast. There was no recovery time after RentheKing's overthrowing.
      However, that being said, it makes sense from a practical standpoint. They probably filmed all of this within the same hour. They've mentioned in the past how difficult it is to get everyone online to film at the same time, with people from different time zones and whatnot. Still, that doesn't take away from the fact it felt rushed.

    • @SunDry_Marchy
      @SunDry_Marchy Год назад +16

      @@RealKeeganJames should've used clearer words for it then.
      You even supported the speedy transition of both events, and never addressed the irl events that altered the course of the event and individual creator's episodes
      Which is the real confusing part of the event rather than the lack of transition and confusion

    • @goodparslay
      @goodparslay Год назад +10

      @@RealKeeganJames i was originally confused as someone who was barely getting into hermitcraft at the time (after watching the life series), but honestly the crossover made me even more intrigued by the content and it encouraged me to catch up on season 9!!! :)

  • @showtimeryanspizzaworld
    @showtimeryanspizzaworld Год назад +70

    How is he to blame for an awesome crossover

    • @ugh2300
      @ugh2300 Год назад +17

      bro grian literally made the crossover. he organized it. not just in lore but he talked to the empires smp members months in advance

    • @rinran1755
      @rinran1755 Год назад +3

      One thing I will not be surprised about is if mumbo became the richest hermit after the cross over. Mumbo for Mayor 🙂.

    • @dragon3025_
      @dragon3025_ Год назад +26

      The Hermits decide things together as a group. Even if the idea was created and organized from Grian, the fact that it's happened means that the majority of Hermits were on board with it. The same goes for every "conflict" that he created, which really weren't conflicts, but fun stories, games, and laughs.
      As others said, the idea of this being a mistake is silly. So a few newcomers might be confused, and maybe they won't be. Maybe they'll see more seasons, Google Hermitcraft, or hear a hermit say something about them being in a crossover event. If anything, collaborations pull interest from separate audiences, and this is a treat for a lot of us that follow Hermitcraft, so this was a pretty good decision by the Hermits.

    • @sammie3277
      @sammie3277 Год назад +5

      I was just thinking about this It may have been Grians idea but a bunch of the creators from bother Empires and Hermitcraft have done thing together so maybe some of them wanted a chance to do so again

    • @kenarnarayaka
      @kenarnarayaka Год назад +1

      I would agree but after all the crossover lasted less than a month. Literally ended 10 days after posting
      Valid points throughout though

  • @noahhumphries8299
    @noahhumphries8299 Год назад +12

    I hope everyone realised the crossover had been planned by all of them for months and the rift was just their way of doing it

  • @xPyroxx
    @xPyroxx Год назад +29

    3:28 I don't think you thought this through. New people, jumping into the series, won't know every member of hermitcraft, nor will they know all of their bases. Anyone who is going "Who is this person?" when entering a new series isn't going to know if they're empires or not. This whole crossover event was really good. It's a shame you're going to get a video that is so heavily interacted with, for having a weird pov.

  • @infinity_wren
    @infinity_wren Год назад +4

    Bruh grian is so awesome. He always checks with everyone before doing those things.

  • @noregrets551
    @noregrets551 Год назад +6

    I just think you have a grudge against Grian

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад +2

      Couldn’t be farther from the truth. He’s one of my favorite creators on RUclips. Big inspiration for some of my videos - just look at my video where I recreated his Hermitcraft 8 train in survival mode. Mentioning him was setting up the narrative of the story, and it made sense because he was one of the main organizers of the event.

  • @kingsledge
    @kingsledge Год назад +8

    I've enjoyed the crossover, but the timing was rough and has divided some hermits and fans. Fall of the king, huge charity stream, and the start of the crossover happened in just a couple days. The hermits are also now split between empires, hermitcraft, create mod, vault hunters, and some not uploading at all. It's a little disheartening and tough to follow
    And since others are sharing and think it matters..I've been watching hermitcraft since season 2

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад +4

      Finally, somebody in the comments understands my point haha
      But yeah, it’s been a lot in such a short amount of time. Wow, season 2?! I’ve been watching since season 4, thought that was a long time haha

    • @angelvaldez3172
      @angelvaldez3172 Год назад +3

      @@RealKeeganJames they will understand you if you really include your point in the video or atleast explained it properly. His comment is more clear than the 4 minute video which is about the new viewers being confused

  • @tinywoolyelephant
    @tinywoolyelephant Год назад +4

    Don't really get why Grian is getting blamed for this. The members make decisions about plots altogether. There's an implication here that Grian has just been dominating storylines since season 6, and it's kind of an odd thing to argue

  • @Speakers94
    @Speakers94 Год назад +8

    I mean... it kinda feels like they cut the king ren storyline short just so they could get to the crossover.
    I personally havnt cared for the crossover, it was a very abrupt halt to all the builds and storylines taking place on hermitcraft. That being said, more people have really enjoyed the crossover than not. I'm ready for the crossover to end, but I'm just going to wait patiently.
    I can choose to not watch any videos until they go back, its clearly not going to hurt any of their channels.
    I'm happy they are having fun with it and I'm happy the vast populous has embraced it.
    Now if only Joe would have stayed so we could have gotten turkaxolotl...

  • @GeekSqueek
    @GeekSqueek Год назад +77

    I love what they are doing. RUclips is a harsh platform. Even for some big creators. I've been watching around season 2ish. I think it's a creative way to step away from constantly doing the same. I can be very tiresome for the creators but also the viewers. Xisuma and impulse i think talked about this in their streams to. Also it's a really good marketing Strategy. That some people are unsubing because the creator is doing something different because they want a change for a bit shows just how content creators are seen almost as content machines. No these are people behind the screens working hard to come up with ideas to make videos sometimes 2 a week. Still everybody can have their own opinion on this ofcourse but I really think it's good for them, good for both smps, and can give them a break and create new creative ideas for upcoming episodes.

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад +5

      Good point, didn’t really think of it like that. Just thought they would have rejuvenated creativity after the king’s reign ending, meaning it would make more sense for them to stay on Hermitcraft for at least a bit longer.
      EDIT: Not discounting creator burnout here - yeah, editing takes a lot of work. I’m a bit ashamed of how long this video took, haha. Not trying to compare myself to the amazing Hermitcraft content creators, but I totally get it. It’s definitely really good for them to have more content surrounding interacting with other creators, as that’s really entertaining for videos, but not as taxing on them in terms of having to plan out massive projects.

    • @GeekSqueek
      @GeekSqueek Год назад +14

      @@RealKeeganJames these things take a lot of planning. And I think the king ren thing was more of a roleplay, but I mean they discuss everything in their discord and that's how things get planed. Third life, rats SMP, hermitcraft, empires, it's all planning and Def they already knew they were going to do this and not just grian it's all of them. Most likely before even the season started. I've been working with some bigger youtubers with Minecraft content as a video editor and I hear plans way before they happen. The "normal" hermit craft will keep coming don't worry about it. Hermitcraft have changed different ways since S1 S2 and it's a good thing. They won't hold on if they keep doing the same thing for such a long run time.

    • @GeekSqueek
      @GeekSqueek Год назад +4

      @@RealKeeganJames oh one more thing, you should be proud of your Editing! You did great. I wish I would put as much effort in my own videos 🤣

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад

      @@GeekSqueek Oh yeah, the planning on these things is insane. I mainly mentioned Grian because I’m pretty sure he was the one that organized it with one of the Empires members, but everyone else had to have been involved for all of the individual creator collabs between them - you know, when they all split up at the beginning of it.

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад

      @@GeekSqueek Thanks haha

  • @N0t_Lynx
    @N0t_Lynx Год назад +2

    Grian joining the sever hasn't "gone wrong" instead it has become more entertaining. The hermitcraft 6 civil war was probably one of my most favourite bits of hermitcraft. Yes it did step hermitcraft out of its comfort zone a little bit, but adding in a little bit of lore also makes it very entertaining while not becoming a movie or tv show portrayed in minecraft. This is my opinion tho. Many people do prefer 0 lore or conflicts, but i tend to enjoy them more.

  • @irynda
    @irynda Год назад +12

    I personally love the crossover, but I do agree that the end of the King storyline and the start of the crossover was too close and rushed. Still, it doesn't keep me from enjoying it.
    I think what likely happened is that the crossover was scheduled in advance. We know from Fwip that he and Grian had been planning the crossover for months before it happened. I think the King storyline was started by Bdubs and it was obviously separate from what Grian was planning with the rift. That storyline probably happened to go on longer than the hermits anticipated (maybe due to all the breaks from earlier this year), or they simply decided that they didn't want to continue it through the crossover, so they had to bring it to a quick close. Yes, it wasn't great pacing, but we have to remember that Hermitcraft isn't a scripted series.
    The hermits "script" some storylines as far as they think necessary, but it's not like they gather together before each season and plan out the storylines. It's mostly improvised fun, and improv often comes with these kinds of hiccups. That's why I dont stress a ton about this. It's not above criticism, of course. Just don't hold it to the same standard as a scripted TV series.

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  Год назад

      100%. I bet it was super convenient for them to film both events back to back, just because they were all there at the same time. They’ve said in the past it’s been difficult to get everyone online at once due to time zones. I know myself and a bunch of other big Hermitcraft fans were looking forward for things to return to normal, just for at least a bit of time.

    • @smolmoru
      @smolmoru Год назад

      improvised story arcs tend to have some of the best things happening tho. they tend to have more raw and genuine reactions, which also makes them less predictabe and curiosity is a bigv drive for many people to watch more.

  • @MADED1TS
    @MADED1TS Год назад +2

    Bro wrote a goddamn college essay for how a Minecraft server has gone wrong💀💀

  • @Henryshedd
    @Henryshedd Год назад +1

    Once the rift happened with the crossover thing I literally stopped watching this season and I think the view count shows it that the crossover did more harm than good

  • @deebea6364
    @deebea6364 Год назад +3

    Videos like this are just kind oftoxic - i thought the crossovers were great - you also talked about how it would be difficult for new people to jump in, but surely there are far more viewers who watch empires, hadn’t seen hermitcraft videos before, and are now checking out the new channels, and vice versa - suddenly hermits will make their way into peoples algorithms, and empire channels will pop up for people who watch hermitcraft - taking the break over January slowed things down more than the crossover, once you click one minecrafters video, youtube will often push their old and popular videos to you

  • @spitfire-ls8oj
    @spitfire-ls8oj Год назад +2

    To be honest I don't like how hermitcraft has been going down the lore rabbit hole since season 8, I just prefer random goofing around instead of purposeful storylines.

  • @gardenshed6043
    @gardenshed6043 Год назад +9

    The event had seemingly been planned for a while. So much so that they had to rush the end of the RenTheKing arc. But I think that was because one was planned, the other more improvised. So they rushed the improv.
    It’s funny that this video is recommended to me now that the hermits are back on Hermitcraft. And now that some of the Emperors have come through with them.

  • @RBRT02
    @RBRT02 Год назад +2

    Some hermits are starting their intro with: welcome back to the big crossover we are on the empire server.
    That works.
    But then there are hermits who just say welcome back to Hermitcraft and dont explain why they are in a completly different environment.

  • @SkSkNutella
    @SkSkNutella Год назад +10

    As a Hermitcraft and Empires watcher, I’ve been LOVING this crossover! I love how False, Gem, and Pearl have been doing it with Gem being a celestial being, there being 2 False’s, and Pearl mentioning a lot of stuff from last season with her Empires skin and stuff. I love it so so much!

  • @Maple38
    @Maple38 Год назад +1

    Grian is the main character now. But it's a good change, not a bad one.

  • @FoxGamer-hb3ot
    @FoxGamer-hb3ot Год назад +1

    ”They will probably be there a while” 10 days later they left

  • @PurpleBroadcast
    @PurpleBroadcast Год назад +2

    Noted: dont invite players with red in their skins

    • @llamadrama1090
      @llamadrama1090 Год назад

      do invite them as they will make your server more popular

  • @AnimeMaritimesPro
    @AnimeMaritimesPro Год назад +3

    Your title and your read before you comment post kind of contradict themselves. Your saying the cross over was wrong but then saying your not against it to try to save yourself from the backlash of both sides. You can't have it both ways. Your either againest it (which is an opinion and therefore can not make something wrong like your title states) or your for it and just trying to ruffle feathers with a click bait title.

  • @TrisStrudel
    @TrisStrudel Год назад +3

    Well this aged like milk.

  • @maximebernatchez1855
    @maximebernatchez1855 Год назад +2

    When Ive started watching Hermitcraft, its was in early season 8. I went back on all seasons without a reason aside of "lets watch old content first". Im sure that new "confused" viewers will do the same.

  • @humanperson2375
    @humanperson2375 Год назад +1

    Can i have some chips with this salt?

  • @6omlofchaos81
    @6omlofchaos81 Год назад

    Title- hermitcraft's biggest mistake
    Thumbnail- points at grian with an arrow saying mistake

  • @c0nn0r.9
    @c0nn0r.9 Год назад +2

    11days later...

  • @Gameonprobro
    @Gameonprobro Год назад +1

    Grian just want some mayhem, leave him alone

  • @TheVampireCabin
    @TheVampireCabin Год назад

    I've tried to watch seasons before Grian joined (mainly season 5 Mumbo Jumbo) and I stopped after only a few episodes because I found them to be extremely boring. I started watching in season 6 onward and that was when Hermitcraft got really good. I think the crossover was absolutely wonderful. It was fresh and exciting and brought what I would consider, new life to Hermitcraft and I could tell that the Hermits were glad that they could do something different after 10 years of only being on the Hermitcraft server and I think the way they did it with the rift was incredibly creative and personally I want to know how they linked the two servers through a portal.

  • @againstallauds5611
    @againstallauds5611 Год назад +6

    Been enjoying it because I've been watching both SMPs. Although I did get a bit lost sometimes, but at least there's recap for me to fall into. It would have been great, however, if a couple of Empires members get into Hermitcraft, that would be interesting at least for me.

  • @Featheredbird
    @Featheredbird Год назад +2

    They kinda needed him, it was getting boring for the other players.

  • @oldsoldier4209
    @oldsoldier4209 Год назад +18

    You're not wrong here. The loose association with "lore" is one of the things that sets HC apart. They have just enough to give a sense of continuity. Grian's games are actually one of his best contributions, as they guarantee interactions between Hermits, and some of the best moments on the server come from those interactions. But, the crossover with Empires was not timed well. Too much lore stretching over too many consecutive episodes doesn't feel right for HC. 🤔

    • @luanaastralis9991
      @luanaastralis9991 Год назад +2

      How is there too much lore? Or is just because it happened all so fast at once.
      Also I'm confused cause all those agreeing with the video poster are saying that the crossover shouldn't happened but it seems like your saying it should be spread out more.

  • @whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy8854
    @whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy8854 Год назад +1

    Dude you dumb grian literally gave the server new life and love many times and the crossover helped many people on both sides

  • @eswing2153
    @eswing2153 Год назад +1

    The crossover opened my eyes to empires. It’s a lot of fun.

  • @scottsvox1371
    @scottsvox1371 Год назад +1

    This new season of hermitcraft is the best one to date honestly

  • @starfox5165
    @starfox5165 Год назад +3

    i’m a completely new hermitcraft and empires viewer, as in started during the crossover season, and im not really that confused. my biggest problem is understanding the inside jokes which isn’t related to the crossover at all.

  • @CoolSkele95
    @CoolSkele95 Год назад +1

    okay but if you remove grian, people will be pissed, server members will be pissed, and it will make hermitcraft less popular.

  • @greatazuredragon
    @greatazuredragon Год назад +2

    Considering I learned about Hermitcraft because of Grian.
    I disagree.

  • @EaterOfGeese
    @EaterOfGeese Год назад +2

    so you made me wait 4 minutes to say that joining in the middle of a story means the writers made a huge mistake? dude. it IS a mini-series, and its some of the most views most of the members' channels have ever gotten on a minecraft playthrough video. Hermitcraft is doing fine, Empires is doing fine, everything is fine, this video sucks.

  • @CharlieLeivers
    @CharlieLeivers Год назад +2

    This video is lacking a lot of knowledge on how marketing works and seems more like a desperate attempt to get views off the hermitcraft name because having a thumbnail and title that suggests grian is a problem with hermitcraft gets clicks. But grian brought hermitcraft back to life, this is the 9th season, it gets to a point where things have to be changed up otherwise people get board. Season 7 was a show of that, it was a great season but it was so much like season 6 they pretty much blended into each other. Again, an amazing season still but it was missing something. Season 8 and the moon was a joint decision that they let grian be in charge of leading. But they let grian lead all of this for a reason, grian is an expert story teller without going too far into the roleplay kinda situation..but on top of that, it's not just grian, the big base swap at the end of season 7 was mumbo, the king stuff was ren, mayoral races was scar, so many different hermits contribute to the story line, grians are just more collaboration based and very ambitious and most views love that, things change over time. Doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. The crossover was temporary and they've gone back now, and now empires are in hermitcraft which will add an interesting dynamic. So many things. Stop trying to just gain views off the hermit name

  • @squibkanotty99
    @squibkanotty99 Год назад +1

    The thumbnail for this video I cant-

  • @elliottedwards1163
    @elliottedwards1163 Год назад +9

    I'm glad to see so many comments congratulating the cross over, it seemed fun!

    • @jiemongpingpong
      @jiemongpingpong 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah! I absolutely love and agree with you!

  • @TheColdestKingCold
    @TheColdestKingCold Год назад +1

    This video literally does not make sense. You are telling me that Hermitcraft made a mistake letting Grian join because Grian is bringing excitement to the server? Hermitcraft before Grian joined was pretty boring. Yeah, there were a lot of cool builds that would sprout up all over but that was it. Just build a small home, build a mega base, end of season. With the addition of Grian, we got lore added to the server. Wars started happening which not only gave the Hermits a break from doing nothing but slaving away at their build, but it also gave them fresh content that will draw in more views. Now with the whole Hermitcraft x Empires, this was bound to happen basically as soon as Grian joined. Grian is friends with practically everyone on Empires and a lot of people on Empires most likely want to be on Hermitcraft (there is the exception of GeminiTay who is on both, but that's neither here nor there). I am more surprised that it took them 4 seasons to make it happen but it kinda does make sense. A lot of Hermits not named GeminiTay or Grian got to meet people from Empires through Minecraft Championship and through the Life Series. Season 8 of Hermitcraft would have made sense to do the crossover but of course that season had a premature ending due to the moon crashing into the world, so we got it this season. Now with the arcs being so close together, it kinda had to happen that way. Empires SMP season 1 lasted seven months and seventeen days. Empires season 2 started 25 June of this year. Meaning that they are already nearing the end of the second season of Empires. It kinda had to happen right away if they wanted to get it done because otherwise it could potentially not happen again. By the time the next season of Empires starts, Hermitcraft season 9 will be ending, or they will be in between seasons, which means they would have to wait for Hermitcraft to catch up to them, or do the crossover arc basically right out of the gates for Hermitcraft. Also, with the crossover confusing someone who is joining late, what? That is the weirdest reason I have ever heard for why something would be bad. If you are joining Hermitcraft RIGHT NOW and start by watching the latest video, something you'll immediately notice is that it takes almost all the Hermits and Empires members about 7-10 days to pump out a video. That means if you watch Grian's or Joel's or Scar's latest Hermitcraft video, you will have about a week to watch there other 29 videos. Most of their videos are about 30 minutes long. To catch up if you started watching Hermitcraft right now, you'd have to watch about 4 episodes per Hermit/Empire to catch up before the next video. Now of course you could be smart about it and intentionally lag behind, or not watch every single Hermit/Empire. Personally I have been watching Grian, Scar, Gem, Joel, and Timmy and I have kept up just fine. The argument that someone might be confused if they joined right now is an awful argument and I am suprised that you kept that in the video at all.
    TL,DR: Adding Grian was the best thing Hermitcraft has done, the crossover had to happen as soon as the King Ren arc ended, and the crossover being bad because ONE person might get confused is small brain thinking.

  • @psychxticrose
    @psychxticrose Год назад +1

    I would’ve never started watching if it wasn’t for grian. I’m a long time subscriber but I finally decided to watch hermitcraft this season and now I’ve seen many seasons

  • @SapNotFound
    @SapNotFound Год назад +2

    so technically what you're trying to say is that
    HermiteCraft is going downhill and it's all Grians fault? but actually, most fans don't find the crossover bad at all. And Grian probably brought in all the conflict to make more views for hermitecraft. Grian is not to blame for the things that happen. sometimes people just need to accept change.

  • @euanfraser2166
    @euanfraser2166 Год назад +2

    As an og fan of hermitcraft since its conception and 1st ever episodes. Hermitcraft has gone through lots of changes such as members leaving and new ones being added. Which then leads to different views and ideas being shared amongst the active members at the time. U shouldn't blame grian for it all Because the server members have weekly meetings to talk about what's going on in the the server. So it's not right just to blame grian.

  • @georgemariatos-metaxas7780
    @georgemariatos-metaxas7780 Год назад

    A week later and the Hermits are back on Hermitcraft LOL

  • @seanthomas6563
    @seanthomas6563 Год назад +4

    I agree with everyone who thinks hermitcraft is doing great. I disagree with everyone who postes videos like this because they dont like a particular person's personality and have to try and prove themselves better. It is quite honestly sad.

  • @Gurtopolis
    @Gurtopolis Год назад +1

    Your problem is just, you literally were utterly wrong, 3 episodes short and everything's back and new people joined the server from empires.

  • @newcomb1987
    @newcomb1987 Год назад

    Well I follow a lot of the people on both sides and I love how they have combined the two cast from both side

  • @darkhalis6179
    @darkhalis6179 Год назад +2

    Just flat out calling Grian a mistake seems pretty rude. o_o

  • @Impixinated
    @Impixinated 10 месяцев назад

    bro needs to teach me how to do those majestic transitions. (im being serious HOW did u do it i use premiere and i cant for the life of me figure out how to do those spin transitions)

    • @RealKeeganJames
      @RealKeeganJames  10 месяцев назад +1

      I use a free plugin called Premiere Composer, it's got a ton of presets you can easily drop into your projects

  • @cyberjamm
    @cyberjamm Год назад +2

    "He is to blame"
    Ok first of the wars were started to keep the server alive and to give more excitement and gives more room for new content. There is no blame as theres no problem with it.
    The new person thing doesnt really seem like an issue if your gonna start a hermitcraft season you might aswell start from the beginning otherwise you'l be confused anyways.
    Dude your points are irrelevant it just seems like your tryna get a 15 seconds of fame from talking about hermitcraft

  • @JBgames007
    @JBgames007 Год назад +2

    I am a fam of Pixlriffs and yes thats how you spell it. I known hermitcraft because of him. This crossover is awesome and I get your point, but then again there are so many good creators outside hermitcraft which for me is a win-win situations for these amazing minecraft players and hermitcraft to have them featured without just including them on the hermitcraft team and vise versa

  • @singularitybound
    @singularitybound Год назад

    They lit already started closing the portal and came back

  • @MuppetChops
    @MuppetChops Год назад +1

    Anyone else stopped watching hermitcraft when Mumbo left

  • @EmpyreanRagnarok
    @EmpyreanRagnarok Год назад

    "It'll be going on for quite a while."
    Nope. It's already over. Well, at least the "Hermits on Empires" part is.

  • @user-pv6rc9zc5x
    @user-pv6rc9zc5x Год назад

    The woosh sound in transitions drives me insane it happens all the time and its SO freaking loud

  • @pallavparmar9818
    @pallavparmar9818 Год назад

    I’ve been watching Grian for a long time now and hermitcraft since season 4 and hermit craft felt more entertained at after Grian joined because collabs happened between players more

  • @lisaschropfer8866
    @lisaschropfer8866 Год назад +1

    so what you are saying has gone „wrong“ is, that some hermits didn’t go through the portal? They must have had their reasons and if that’s just scheduling-wise…

  • @Cheesecraft612
    @Cheesecraft612 Год назад

    It didn’t really last long at all actually, I’m pretty sure they’re all back to their own servers now-

  • @henrygervais8239
    @henrygervais8239 Год назад +4

    I understand your point with the cross over but the wars that they have had weren’t just Grian blowing stuff up, it’s all of them together. If the other hermits weren’t ok with it then your point is valid but they all want to do these things, not just Grian.

  • @ItsBecon
    @ItsBecon Год назад

    I still find it funny that generikb made hermit craft and they kept the name, even though it obviously goes with him. He will forever be a part of hermitcraft

  • @calvinchiuman3772
    @calvinchiuman3772 Год назад

    I love the thumbnail just pointing out that grian is a mistake

  • @thefavouritecanadian
    @thefavouritecanadian Год назад +2

    oh no! content creators collaborating in order to generate hype!

  • @amberlyon2534
    @amberlyon2534 Год назад +3

    Grian is an amazing content creator! He is the reason I am watching anybody on that server! I don't know what he does differently but even though I love everybody on that server's personality and builds, the way he makes his videos are much more entertaining! So don't dis him!

  • @eclipse9727
    @eclipse9727 Год назад +2

    I do get the idea of confusion with the hermitcraft viewers, but not only is that issue well balanced by the positives, but tbh... new viewers starting a series in the middle feels like the viewers choiced problem than the CC.
    Like, this isn't the first aliennating choice Hermitcraft has done; Season 8 was very much a different shift from the usual focus, and they used what they learned there to this season.
    Lastly, it seems the hermits have finally turned the direction to leaving, so I think we're reaching the end.

  • @minisithunknown5568
    @minisithunknown5568 Год назад +2

    Where is the mistake???

  • @middersex4398
    @middersex4398 Год назад

    well it’s only increased in popularity with grians arrival and it’s not as if the server and events that go on aren’t scripted or all up to one person. if members didn’t want the events to take place they’d say so privately and then they wouldn’t

  • @kairo2563
    @kairo2563 Год назад

    For me I think your right, I stop watching hermitcraft when the crossover starts, but I think I'll watch it again since they're back.

  • @oddanimations21
    @oddanimations21 Год назад

    Broooo should have waited to make it as soon as he made it they went right back

  • @defeatSpace
    @defeatSpace Год назад

    The King arc and this crossover are completely decimating their views and watchtime.

  • @Incompetent-gamer
    @Incompetent-gamer Год назад +2

    Personally, I like the crossover. I watched HermitCraft from season 5 to 8. Just rejoined. It is very confusing however!

  • @sambarendse4295
    @sambarendse4295 Год назад +3

    Just clickbait. Honestly, how dare you insult Hermitcraft this way! It’s just a funny thing to widen their audience. And honestly it got me watching Empires as well

  • @solmonno6935
    @solmonno6935 Год назад

    why would you start in the middle of a season

  • @gobbelgub4031
    @gobbelgub4031 Год назад +1

    Hermitcraft is in shambles because maybe one viewer got confused?
    Okay

  • @noahfitzgerald1890
    @noahfitzgerald1890 Год назад +1

    It’s not wrong he asks before he dose this

  • @rccubing907
    @rccubing907 Год назад

    Rift can be good if
    After they re enter the rift, some Empires SMP member accidentally went to portal and now a member of Hermitcraft for season 9.
    I know its too late but its still good to have a new member/s for the season( eventhough HC s8 only lasts for months together with 2 new members Gem and Pearl).

  • @aussieants4345
    @aussieants4345 Год назад

    Without Grian Hermitcraft would be so boring, all building nonsense, Grian brings suspense!

  • @haydensparkes7731
    @haydensparkes7731 Год назад

    This didn’t age well they’re back now

  • @phantomplaystation
    @phantomplaystation Год назад

    no more negitive energy

  • @owoxtakuph9047
    @owoxtakuph9047 Год назад

    The empires asked for help to start up and the hermits is getting views for payments.

  • @ejokurirulezz
    @ejokurirulezz 3 месяца назад

    Hermicraft's and every other server's biggest mistake is to include that abomination called geminitay

    • @ACasualTrevor
      @ACasualTrevor 3 месяца назад

      Seems like a personal problem

  • @gloriasanchez7550
    @gloriasanchez7550 Год назад +3

    I don't agree, and asking for subscriptions when all you did was complain while showing said "MISTAKES' content" for his own video. Grian works hard creating his own content not like this video which is nothing but clickbait that's why he has the numbers he has and why he was invited to join hermit craft,and for someone to be rude and call him a mistake on hermitcraft is petty. I watch both servers and many others. Won't be subscribing. Work harder and create your own content