Rusty patina paint job using vinegar to match original paint
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Ok this is going to be a challenge... we want to paint the fender skirts to match the original patina of the 1936 Hudson Terraplane. The first step is to mix up some paint to match the shade of navy blue. Then the paint will be applied in a messy/streaky manner so that we can have some metal still showing which we'll cover with vinegar to create a rusty original look 😅
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You need to use Hydrogen Peroxide with several table spoons of salt mixed in. This will create instance rust. You should have painted the entire fender skirt with primer and paint first, then sand as much off as you like leaving some exposed primer and paint, then scratch and scuff to your liking, then apply the Peroxide letting dry between coats. Put on as many coats as you like to achieve the desired amount of rusting. Pat dry between coats. Allow to completely dry before final wipe down and top coating. Hope this helps if you even read this.
Good luck! So far a great job!!
@@kalinagoedge2777 It does with quick results. Don't know if Chad has figured it out yet because it doesn't look like he is having a pod cast today. Will see?
think of how much more cool he would look if he tucked his ears inside his ballcap
Try putting on a coat of red oxide primer, then the blue, then scuff through the blue with a Scotch Btite pad to achieve the patina
Don’t see any other red oxide on rest of the car, look at what the factory used and study how weather and sun wore the paint.
I agree , red oxide would be good underneath also a titch of white fogged on …
Flat brown paint would work to, that's what I use on models for this effect.
I usually take a nail and poke 1 or 2 holes in the lip of the can, to allow the paint to drain back into the can, instead of drying in the lip groove. Makes it easier to open the cans too. Great Show, Thanks.
I’ve been a custom painter for over thirty years, I’ve been using Vice Grip Garage Shine Juice, I used to just spray clear, I like Derek’s concoction.👍🇨🇦
Please do not use CLEAR!
@@slvrktman7824 😂 it’s my job.
DD Speed Shop used it and it turned out Great!!
Nice work. I use water and wire wool to create rust patina. Put water on panel then rub wire wool between your hands over the area so it kinda sprinkles the steel wool over area. Keep up the great work guys.
I use vinegar to de-rust metal. I put a old two barrel shotgun in pure vinegar. It took a couple of days to de-rust it. Works great & removes all of the rust. Then steel wool & water to clean up. Rust does start “ growing “ quickly.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Can’t wait to see the dual side mounts!!! Great choice!!!!
BAD Chad & QUEEN Jolene,
I’ve been watching your videos on a daily and I’ve gone back to the beginning and have been watching them all!!! Love everything you do and your ability to communicate what you are doing to us. Keep up the awesome work and your amazing creativity!!
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Hi Chad & Jolene how are you two? You need to mix salt in with the Vinegar that is what rusts it fast. I have also seen pickle juice and salt used as well. The videos that I have watched they had it rusted pretty quickly but, I think without the salt it is not going to rust quickly and I also think the water collecting on it will dillute it. The videos that I have watched they mixed the salt and vinegar in a spray bottle and sprayed it on. When in doubt how to do something watch a You Tube video, lol.
Old rust is brown
New rust is orange
Chad and Jolene, Love the Hudson! Beautiful job on the chop. Every artist has his own palate. Kudos to you both.
I really like how you put the flares on the bottom of the fender skirts
Did I see a FIAT 124 sport coupe outside the door? COOL!
Jolene mixes the paint and Chad sprays it. Then apply vinegar. This should be an interesting way to achieve the desired result.
If you use vinegar, dry it with a heat gun, then apply more vinegar and heat dry it until you get the desired effect. I have cleaned rusty metal with vinegar to dissolve rust, then clean it, then sand it clean. Vinegar is just a mild acid. Just rinse with baking soda to neutralize it and distress the painted metal with steel wool with mild scratches to make it look aged.
Good luck, it's coming along nicely.
8:1 peroxide to vinegar with a tablespoon of salt, let it sit and it'll look like old rust in no time. Get a soft brass wire wheel or some sand paper, even paint thinner, whatever you'd like, to remove spots of paint where you think the sun would hit it or the water would pool up, and then you'll have a good spot to put your vinegar peroxide solution. Excited to see how this turns out.
I've never seen this done before Chad and jolene hopefully it's going to work out just how you want it to. I can't wait to see the end result and to see if it works. Keep up the great work the both of you 👏 👍
Vice Grip Garage does patina finishes on most of his cars. Derick also sells wipe on clear coats from dull, satin, and gloss. Some are linseed based, some paint.
Vinegar kills rust and you should have painted it first with red oxide primer then good paint coverage then scotch brite in certain areas and sand paper until you see bare metal in the areas you want and then salt water with peroxide will instantly rust the metal 👍
Chad vinegar alone won't cause rust it actually removes rust the best solution is hydrogen peroxide with a little vinegar and salt in a spray bottle mix about 80-20 with vinegar being 20 percent hydrogen peroxide bring the 80 add a few dashes of salt shake up , the best way to do is paint the panel as u would painting anything else then remove the paint in the spots you want to rust in a rust pattern and then spray the solution on the removed paint or bare metal can also use browns and redish paints with a brush and Dab to add texture along with nicks and small dings here and there
Use a steel brush or scouring pad to ruff up the paint in the expected areas rust might form. So it will look more natural.
Black tinting is the dominate color. Always use black to darken a color and make it opaque to hide the background. Red in blue paint makes purple or violet according to the ratio. No red in the blue if you want Dark Blue. There are several dark blue colors in spray can paint that would work.
I thought the color match was really good the first time you checked. Should not have added red but I couldn't really see it on the screen. You lost it when you added more blue and never got enough black back in it. Just too light and needs a bit of black until perfect.
Nice progress...Less is more. Thanks for sharing Chad and Jolene. God bless.
It's quite impressive how Jolene can lend a hand without loosing frame on the video.
"losing"
HEY CHAD,
Peroxide sprayed on rusts right away. Rubbing Vaseline on before you paint then wiping off afterwards you can make cool patches of rust like on the doors and fenders there. Looks great
Some auto parts stores can mix you original color in a rattle can if you want less aggravation trying to match the rust look. Oops I mean "patina" look
With rust patina the trick is to make it believable. Look at the rust on the car and it usually forms on flat surfaces first then then runs vertically and gathers around edges and flat surfaces because the cars been sitting for long time, where the water runs off. Not horizontally that low down. Also don't over do it, be subtle less is more. Don't worry about the paint colour once it's scotched down it will look cool.
I think it would look better with the spare mounted on the trunk if you put them on the fenders they will be in the way of the hood sides just says.
Hydrgen peroxide works really well for rusting metal
Some iron/steel powder will speed up the creation of rust if you wet the surface with salty water and sprinkle it on.
Fine iron filings can be found at science educational supply houses. Remember sprinkling iron powder from a shaker on a piece of white paper and then bringing a magnet up from below.
Well Chad all you can do now is wait and see how they turn out. Hi Jolene and you all can have the snow. God bless and have a blessed night
Lookin good! Maybe scratch it up a little with a piece of brier bush.
I always enjoy watching. You see a vision and you just make it like it's so easy. It speaks of years of experience and a serious work ethic. You have a keen eye and a deft hand. Signs of an artist at work. I must say sometimes our tastes differ, but I applaud your ability and tenacity. I would suggest to be careful about door clearance with side mounts. Suicide doors may cause a problem. I find your use of 100% penetration welding an obvious solution to panel repair work. I admire your work keep it up. A real fan. Robert Scheibel
Would a visor look good on the front window ?
All right everybody I'm your man Bad Chad and Joellyn's on the camera...I just love it...❤❤❤
Bad Chad and Jolene trying to emulate the patina and apply on to the skirts,, wow, that would be a difficult mix mediums and process, but again Bad Chad wanted to use what he had in his possession with out spending big dollars while he performs in front of thousands of viewers,,, Holy billy ba jeeeepers.. yikes! 😲He is brave. I have a hard enough time figuring out what pair of socks i want to wear,, That is why I like to watch these guys design and build with what they have at hand. Hard act to follow.😁
Should've sprayed the skirt with Vinegar+Hydrogen Peroxide and Salt, and that would've rusted the metal almost immediately. Apply several coats and the patina will thicken. Then follow that up with either a paint or sealer. I like spraying with a clear sealer, which preserves the rust, so that when I paint the piece, I can follow that up with sanding the surface w/o removing the rust.
Fairly strong mix of salt water rusts pretty quick. Guys have used vinegar to get rid of rust, I have tried that and it will clean stuff up to a point.
Get your color on there. Then sand it with 800 then 1000 making sure to make plenty of bare metal burn thrus around the edges, then rinse in the hottest tap water you can find. Let it cool and rinse again, and again. You should have a decent layer of surface rust beginning in minutes.
Looks awesome I use vinegar salt and peroxide mixed together soak rags in this and lay the rags on what you want to rust leave over night
Forgot to mention the acid is applied first. Also the rust May first appear very orange, but over a few days goes more brown.
Love this build!
I think the thing deserves a paint job be poppin.
Mr. Hiltz. A real pleasure to see an amazing artist at work.
Toss Salt at it ......
But you have to be aggressive with it.... almost angry while throwing the salt to achieve the correct patina 😊
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Cars lookin good man!!!!
This will be intresting to see the blending to make new look old
Paint it brown first then blue on top and let it get a bit tacky the wipe softly with a cloth
That would be awesome
I believe it's a mixture more than straight vinegar... And a small spray bottle would make it easier to apply it
I have used vinegar and water 50/50 to rust metal parts. I suggest you put the paint on then use a DA with 400 grit to create "wear spots" in the paint. Notice on the back of the hood how it rusted from the edge in. and on the doors and finders where the paint looks like it was warn down and rust took over. Thry to create that look with the DA. Once you have sanded some bare metal, then put the vinegar solution on and it rusts as it dries. The DA should help make the paint look old. Also notice how the dirt on the top has discolored the paint. Perhaps put some test pain on a scrap and when it's still tacky, put a lite sprinkling of dust and see what that looks like.
I think you nailed it.
Hola soy de Argentina y yo uso el vinagre para sacar óxido no para generarlo. Muy bueno lo que haces saludos Carlos
for side tires, is there going to be enough room to open suicide doors with them on?
Chad for the first time you have done this style of paint I think your doing well. You can not hurt what your doing. I do think maybe a bit more black into your paint. I would not to do because I never done this so this is a fun thing to me. Chad see you and Jolene tomorrow. Oh also Jolene thank for the great job of the cover letting us see the whole job that Chad is doing. Thanks you both!
Hi from the uk, loving the motor looks bad ass, what ever you do to it will come out great like your past projects. Keep doing what your doing great content.
Once your done modifying the car take a polisher and some rubbing compound and go over the whole vehicle. It will bring out the best of the old paint and give it a uniform look but won’t destroy the rusty patina.
I think you're doing a fine job. Thanks for sharing with us.
All good Chad. I would just paint the skirts then buff off the paint where you would want the rust. Everyone has their own system.
Former personal painter, I myself hate patina, then the fake patina. More respect if you repaired the rust spots , pounded out the dents, and gave it a decent paint. Good on the chop, make it a sinister ride with a shine. I walk by every rat rod and patina car at every car show, as I know the workmanship, detail and budget cut to explain away the why we did it this way. I’m a paint perfectionist and will never change. Every negative comment to this would be from cheap ass that can’t sand a car to perfection. Go make the fake patina, cause that’s what it is.
Nice job hope it turns out well after a night in the snow and rain. Cheers Chad and Queen Jolene
The car looks cool !
Those front doors go a long ways forward. Could be difficult getting the tires sitting in the fenders far enough forward and low enough to clear the doors
Mix vinegar, peroxide,and salt to rust metal quickly. Put it in a spray bottle to apply. Good luck!
Bare metal left unpainted for a day or two will flash off in rust (remember what happened to your tank on the fuel truck?) Check out the back of your skirts tomorrow. Hitting the face of the skirts with a heavy mist of vinegar and salt would probably turn rusty in a few hours. Or you could just drive it around Ontario for a day, and then you could hear the rust happening!
Salt, vinegar, peroxide and a spray bottle. It will start rusting as soon as you spray it on the bare metal, I’ve done this several times and it’s the best way I have found.
Salt brine works pretty fast. Kinda like dipping it in sea water
Looking awesome!
I’ve had excellent results using muriatic acid (in a spray bottle) and then hydrogen peroxide (also in a spray bottle). Results are almost instantaneous. Vinegar works, but is much slower.
To expose more bare metal, just sand it.
I was going to suggest the muriatic solution but hate to see him get hurt,
I agree with previous comments.those cars had red oxide below color.have fun
Looking forward to the rust!
The old Hudson is looking good
You need frame supports for the front fenders if your going to mount tires, or you will rip the fenders off when driving
Hi well just keep playing with it till ya get it pretty close might take a few times to get it the way ya want it . Have fun with it like always right!!
You might paint a first coat color rust , blue on top and finally sand the blue to reach the rust color. A bit like on the front fenders . Good luck anyway, nice project😊😊
Chad does whatever jolene says. She runs the show .
there is nothing more canadian than mixing paint in a Timmy,s coffee cup
They make a kit to add rust to a car. Yu use a stray and blow the metal oxide onto the paint with a straw where the car would rust and I think it is hydrogen peroxide mist with a sprayer and it rusts as you are watching. I have seen people use this with fiberglass and on plastic to give them the correct look. Works great.
Brilliant paint n rust at same time... :)
Nice job Chad..I saw your Australian episode where that guy used acid/water mix to get the same result. What he did looked great and I'm sure this will look just as good...
I think your doing the right thing with the car Chad and Jolene 👍
I never imagined fender skirts, I thought you were building a hot rod and cut open the rear wheel fenders slightly larger and put the wide tires and chrome reverse wheels. But you built it to what you wanted, give it hell! Lol. 4:32
Your going to all this awesome fab and the car looks great! Should just paint the whole thing :)
Little more black and I think you would have been there Chad. Thank you for the camera work Jolene...Good to hear you say hello to the UK Chad!👍
Hey Chad, 16 ounces of hydrogen peroxide, 2 ounces of white vinegar and 1 tablespoon of salt In a spray bottle will give you rust immediately. Thanks again Chad and Jolene for a great show!
Chad it's looking good so far ...keep up the great work you doing
She’s a really good camera operator
Perhaps putting on a fairly solid coat and then when dry, use sandpaper to make spots down to bare metal for your rust areas.
Going forward, if you wanna flash rust something... mix vinegar, hydrogen peroxide and table salt. Shake well, put in spray bottle and apply. The rust will occur almost immediately. 👍
I think you should try to paint the rust color on first and the blue color over the top and rub through it with steel wool or scotch bright wherever he wants the rust look
Yep!
Pour equal parts distilled vinegar and hydrogen peroxide into a spray bottle container. ...
Add around a ¼ cup of salt to the container and shake/stir until the salt is dissolved.
Spray the mixture onto your piece of steel. ...
Sprinkle a liberal dose of salt across the steel.
I have no idea what’s gonna happen about the skirts rusting,,just watching as always,, lol lol and enjoying,,hi Jolene an fina,,luv ya’s, 👍👍😀
Just wanted to suggest you use the same thing as we use on the highways here in NS. Salt Brine. Guess you could just add salt to the mixture overnight. I think it would add a nice light rust patina. Anyway, anyway car looks really great with the chop and the lowered back end. thanks for video.
Loving how the Hudson is turning out! An LS engine and some decent interior and it would be fabulous 😊
Hey great job on the fender skirts and that new building looks good but it needs some of those old signs on it like the front office it's all good
It’s very pretty there great video also throwing 2cents nothing bad mix salt and hydrogen peroxide and spray
Drop them on the gravel a few times. Then add the vinegar.
I feel like it would look great with a visor . Nothing big like the original ones but a slim fitting look
Im addicted to watching glad I found this I been waiting for new season on tv but I’d rather watch this way
Great job Chad & Jolene
Try using some gun blueing solution. It’s basically a controlled rusting process and helps create that old deep black rust look.
Blue rust with clear nice color
My guess would be full coat of paint the soak steel wool in the vinegar and rub off you wear marks. That's how the rest of the car got it's patina✌
Loving the car and we think the world of both of you🤔