Guys this video was very high quality. No background music was so clean as well. A couple of questions... when you start the forearm pronation is this an active movement or are you allowing the racket to passively follow through into a forearm rotation? Also at the end of the backswing as you come up, what are you doing with your wrist to get the racket strings to face upwards? Are you extending it? Thank you!
Hi there! Thanks for the nice response to the video. As for the questions you outlined. Let me answer hem the best I can in tact form! 1. Forearm pronation (active or none active movement) - It is an active movement that rotates the forarm, but it isn't an overly "tensed one". In order to generate really elite power we need to almost feel the movement starting in the beginning of our forearm and freely rotating up and around our arm and ending at our hand / finger. What I'm to describe / emphasise here is the fact that it is indeed an active movement, but it should feel free and flowing. And yes the racket should almost feel like it's passively following along right until the impact where we generate the last whip effect by using our finger power. 2. I assume you mean the very last moment in the backswing before we start to accelerate the racket. - The reason the strings are almost pointing upwards here is the natural effect of us firing our elbow forward as the body has rotated through. If you look closely you can see the hand stay in position staying relaxed and the rest firing away. This creates the angle in the wrist naturally and from there we can fire out forarm and finger power in the end to generate a lot of power. If you really want to go deep with this try and search for the "Lag" in golf. It is the same thing that applies here. We just find that there is way more documentation on it in golf, so it is a bit easier to reed a lot on. But quickly summarising it - The more we can have our hand be relaxed and "fall behind" as we have our elbow go forward the harder we can hit the shuttle Hope this helped a bit. - William
@@BadmintonFamly ah thank you William. Really appreciate the detailed reply, that helps clear up so much mystery not covered in badminton tutorials! Suggestion for a future vid could be to compare what overly passive Vs overly active pronation looks like, finding that balance of a good motion. For the second point, the lagging makes a lot of sense. Great tip on looking up the golf version of this principle! I really like deep dives on this sort of thing so you've just set off a new binge watch for me! Cheers! Edit: for anyone interested also look up tennis racket lag, specifically for service as that's the same as a badminton smash. Lots of material on this.
I've been playing without #4 for years. I always had enough power to do great clear. Out clearing my opponents has even been a thing in my game too. Only last week did I learn about #4. I'm siderated how I have always been playing without this without missing power. The timing of your video is perfect because I now need to get confortable with it and so far, it has thrown my armed position offtrack. I need to make both work together.
Great video guys, quite some detail, good buildup and nice show of correct and wrong with the most frequent mistakes. While keeping it nicely short and easy to follow :) Please make more of these on other strokes
it's a nicely presented video and all good points from the waist up, but in my view it misses what most tutorials about clear (and smash and drop) are missing, which is the foundation that starts at the floor and ascends to the hips to start, let's note the mechanics here are essentially identical for clear, smash and drop, with slight differences in positioning and and handling at the moment of impact. you did mention positioning behind the shuttle, but i would note it is fine to be positioned too far behind the shuttle but very weak to be positioned not far enough. this is because if you are a too far behind the shuttle you can always jump up and forwards to meet the shuttle and this forward energy enhances your recovery in most situations if you watch players like loh kean yew you'll see he moves very early, fast and long to get way behind the shuttle, and this energy investment gives him all kinds of options next, the energy that is going to go into the shuttle should be taken from the floor. that means your body needs to be low and especially deep into your dominant quads and calves pushing explosively off the floor, and this energy moves up through your dominant leg directly into hip rotation hip rotation is an essential component of clear, smash, and drop. it translates energy through the torso and shoulders and into the arm, as well as helping to bring your dominant leg in front of you during recovery. many problems result from inadequate hip rotation including poor recovery, psoas injuries, shoulder injuries, low power, and poor placement if you look at slo-mo videos of any of the great jump smashers, you will see the hips rotate independently of the torso when you exploit the full kinetic chain of energy all the way from the center of the earth through the dominant leg and into hip rotation, upward movement of the racket head until it cant go any higher and then a high-velocity descent involving pronation and grip-tightening at the moment of contact, it should feel effortless to clear the shuttle to the back line and there is no real arm strength involved, just pronation and a moment of grip-tightening the energy from your stroke begins at the center of the earth when you push off the floor. the harder and more explosively you push, the more energy flows upwards through your body eventually reaching the shuttle and if you really wanna rattle your opponent, try jumping as high as you can to clear the shuttle during a rally and watch what happens thank you for all your hard work
Hi there. William here from the channel, You are 100% correct, but we opted not to include it in this, since we tried to keep it as clean as possible without causing confusion. The whole topic of hip seperation (scientifically in other sports called x-factor) will be addressed in a video on its own that'll tie into all the upcoming overhead core shots. In general it's also very interesting to look at force plates etc. to see how power is properly generated from the ground and up. Glad you liked the video and we expect you to be right back in the comments once we release the ground force video😉 (May just be a series)
I'm a bit surprised finger power is not mentionned at all Good tips otherwise, very precise on the hand behind elbow part that many players tend to miss 👍
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Guys this video was very high quality. No background music was so clean as well. A couple of questions... when you start the forearm pronation is this an active movement or are you allowing the racket to passively follow through into a forearm rotation? Also at the end of the backswing as you come up, what are you doing with your wrist to get the racket strings to face upwards? Are you extending it? Thank you!
Hi there!
Thanks for the nice response to the video. As for the questions you outlined. Let me answer hem the best I can in tact form!
1. Forearm pronation (active or none active movement)
- It is an active movement that rotates the forarm, but it isn't an overly "tensed one". In order to generate really elite power we need to almost feel the movement starting in the beginning of our forearm and freely rotating up and around our arm and ending at our hand / finger. What I'm to describe / emphasise here is the fact that it is indeed an active movement, but it should feel free and flowing. And yes the racket should almost feel like it's passively following along right until the impact where we generate the last whip effect by using our finger power.
2. I assume you mean the very last moment in the backswing before we start to accelerate the racket.
- The reason the strings are almost pointing upwards here is the natural effect of us firing our elbow forward as the body has rotated through. If you look closely you can see the hand stay in position staying relaxed and the rest firing away. This creates the angle in the wrist naturally and from there we can fire out forarm and finger power in the end to generate a lot of power. If you really want to go deep with this try and search for the "Lag" in golf. It is the same thing that applies here. We just find that there is way more documentation on it in golf, so it is a bit easier to reed a lot on. But quickly summarising it - The more we can have our hand be relaxed and "fall behind" as we have our elbow go forward the harder we can hit the shuttle
Hope this helped a bit.
- William
@@BadmintonFamly ah thank you William. Really appreciate the detailed reply, that helps clear up so much mystery not covered in badminton tutorials! Suggestion for a future vid could be to compare what overly passive Vs overly active pronation looks like, finding that balance of a good motion.
For the second point, the lagging makes a lot of sense. Great tip on looking up the golf version of this principle! I really like deep dives on this sort of thing so you've just set off a new binge watch for me! Cheers!
Edit: for anyone interested also look up tennis racket lag, specifically for service as that's the same as a badminton smash. Lots of material on this.
@@TK-jump
Thanks for the info
I've been playing without #4 for years. I always had enough power to do great clear. Out clearing my opponents has even been a thing in my game too. Only last week did I learn about #4. I'm siderated how I have always been playing without this without missing power. The timing of your video is perfect because I now need to get confortable with it and so far, it has thrown my armed position offtrack. I need to make both work together.
Great to hear!
Great video guys, quite some detail, good buildup and nice show of correct and wrong with the most frequent mistakes. While keeping it nicely short and easy to follow :)
Please make more of these on other strokes
Thanks 🙏🏻 We will for sure make more of this 💯🏸
Wow thanks, that helped a lot, you just got a new fan from Denmark 🇩🇰🤓✌️
Congratz
Really good guys! Best explanation I've seen so far!
Thanks that is amazing to hear, we also use many hours on this 💯🏸🙏🏻
Great help. Thanks guys!
Helped my game!
Sounds great, good luck improving from here 🚀
Very good video with easy to follow instructions!!🙌
Thanks Thomas 💯🏸
Really good video for educational use!!! Thank you 🙌🏻
Your welcome Sofie 😃
Great video and great tips💪🏼
Thank you SO much 😊
it's a nicely presented video and all good points from the waist up, but in my view it misses what most tutorials about clear (and smash and drop) are missing, which is the foundation that starts at the floor and ascends to the hips
to start, let's note the mechanics here are essentially identical for clear, smash and drop, with slight differences in positioning and and handling at the moment of impact. you did mention positioning behind the shuttle, but i would note it is fine to be positioned too far behind the shuttle but very weak to be positioned not far enough. this is because if you are a too far behind the shuttle you can always jump up and forwards to meet the shuttle and this forward energy enhances your recovery in most situations
if you watch players like loh kean yew you'll see he moves very early, fast and long to get way behind the shuttle, and this energy investment gives him all kinds of options
next, the energy that is going to go into the shuttle should be taken from the floor. that means your body needs to be low and especially deep into your dominant quads and calves pushing explosively off the floor, and this energy moves up through your dominant leg directly into hip rotation
hip rotation is an essential component of clear, smash, and drop. it translates energy through the torso and shoulders and into the arm, as well as helping to bring your dominant leg in front of you during recovery. many problems result from inadequate hip rotation including poor recovery, psoas injuries, shoulder injuries, low power, and poor placement
if you look at slo-mo videos of any of the great jump smashers, you will see the hips rotate independently of the torso
when you exploit the full kinetic chain of energy all the way from the center of the earth through the dominant leg and into hip rotation, upward movement of the racket head until it cant go any higher and then a high-velocity descent involving pronation and grip-tightening at the moment of contact, it should feel effortless to clear the shuttle to the back line and there is no real arm strength involved, just pronation and a moment of grip-tightening
the energy from your stroke begins at the center of the earth when you push off the floor. the harder and more explosively you push, the more energy flows upwards through your body eventually reaching the shuttle
and if you really wanna rattle your opponent, try jumping as high as you can to clear the shuttle during a rally and watch what happens
thank you for all your hard work
Hi there.
William here from the channel, You are 100% correct, but we opted not to include it in this, since we tried to keep it as clean as possible without causing confusion.
The whole topic of hip seperation (scientifically in other sports called x-factor) will be addressed in a video on its own that'll tie into all the upcoming overhead core shots.
In general it's also very interesting to look at force plates etc. to see how power is properly generated from the ground and up.
Glad you liked the video and we expect you to be right back in the comments once we release the ground force video😉 (May just be a series)
@@williambrndum3452 looking forward
Really good explanation!!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Nice simple video…and hours of practice ahead :-)
Uhhhh, YES, true, we wish you good luck 🙏🏻
Thomas, do you personally put your thumb above your index finger?
Not for the forehand grip and strokes, but yes for the thumb grip for drives etc.
Nice video!!
Thank you Simon, nice to hear you like it 😊🙏🏻
good explanation!!!
Thanks a lot 💯🙏🏻
Very nice video, I realise now I haven't been using much forearm rotation in my shots, can't wait to try this out tomorrow!🤰
Sounds good! Go get it
wow nice video
Thanks 😀
I'm a bit surprised finger power is not mentionned at all
Good tips otherwise, very precise on the hand behind elbow part that many players tend to miss
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Yaay, Thomas started to build a belly :P
I like the guy with White shoes! He knows his stuff, how Can I get private lessons
Good looking guy😂
Du ser godt ud 2.0 😘💪 kan allerede mærke min clear er bedre
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Helped me alot!! Just won my first junior tournament. Thanks guys!!👍🏽
Amazing congrats to you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I beat william once but now he is much better than me now, nice to lean something new
Haha sounds like you must have a match again, we can send it live here on YT💪🏻💯🤣
Great example and explanation of the executions of the various shots🏸🤩
Thanks a lot, really appreciate it 🙏🏻🏸