Prequel Trilogy = Jedi in power & Sith are in hiding Original Trilogy = Sith in power & Jedi in hiding I would love a time period where both Jedi & Sith are equally in power.
Brandishing a knife and a few puppet strings. With the even more powerful/etherial force being looking at both sides in shame or just completely ignoring them.
200 years before the Naboo blockade? Will we see Yoda with a full head of hair or will it already be thinning on top…? _"Hmm, safe the Jedi order will be under my rule - fuck it up I will not"._
@@miguelmontenegro3520 that would make no sense at all. I mean the child in the mandalorian is a baby and it is clearly stated that he's 50 years old. It'd be weird if the Yoda species suddenly doesn't get older than 200.
One is a well thought out and executed passion project by fans of the franchise who want to bring star wars to its full potential with multiple engaging storylines, unforgettable characters, intriguing moral questions, groundbreaking battles, heartbreaking tragedies, and new perspectives on light vs dark. The other is a corporate-mandated response to a series of disastrous films and projects.
@@GenerationTech Bioware shall never b forgotten. They made amazing games like KOTOR 1&2, Battlefront 1&2, Republic commando, and every single great star wars game that came out. (even if they didn't make ALL of them, I'm still gonna say they did)
It didn’t really hit me how much work has gone into developing the Star Wars universe until I was looking at a map of every known hyperspace lane in existence and listening to a 50+ minute documentary of the history of the Old Republic.
@@frankb3347 Boy 0_0 ANY corporation doesn't care what fans want (look on Hasbro or Werner as examples). Disney is actually one of what show most care, as they originated as niche creators. So entitled behavior of some fanboys is downright hilarious, especially as it usually go in part with conviction that hating Disney make them mature (when is literally the opposite).
@@joenathan8059 And why you saying that in topic of pop-media (=definition of greedy corporate dumpster) and not classic (so elitist pretentious dumpster)? Fanboys are cancers because in most cases they aren't real fans, but entitled bitches with unrealistic undefinable demands, who don't know shit about media in debate, and just pretend to be cool by repeating fake memes from internet. It is why literally no one should care about them. Relations of actual fanbom with Disney is nowadays way better, but you of course wouldn't know that form overblown Tumbler drama.
High Republic: "Everyone is perfect and awesome!" Old Republic: "Everyone has flaws and questionable motivations!" I don't think we have to wonder which will have the more compelling story.
And yet when they made Luke have a compelling character arc and motives in TLJ, where he see he isn’t human - people started raging like babies. I’m so sick of people just hating Disney and anything they make
Hello, its probably been covered before. But I just have to ask, how do most people fly around the galaxy. We always see the war ships and smugglers. But how does your average man get from one side of the galaxy to the other? Is there a taxi cruisers, state funded space bus? How do I get from coruscant to endor to feast upon ewok meat?
In the Legends books there are many references to star ships that are basically cruise liners carrying people between planets. In the prequel movies Anakin, R2 and Padme go from Coruscant to Naboo on a transport ship.
@@ukmediawarrior that transport ship from ep 2 was like the greyhound bus of the star wars galaxy. the silver naboo starship is like a private jet. i wonder what in-between ships are like.
My only problem with the Old Republic is the MMO the art style in that is just so uninteresting and focused on more modern designs than the retro look of the Original trilogy, Knights of the old republic, and Prequels. Look at the Republic troopers armour for example they look like fan art of Clone Armour made with a modern sci fi art style over designed and filled with shit.
@@CaptainAmercia Same with First Order's Sith Troopers but damn the Mando show is growing with great confidence and quality content such as the Dark Troopers that are such a monumental addition for the Empire's fictional faction.
@@TheRezro it's called the high republic. Disney wouldn't have called it that if it wasn't trying to get legends fans attention in some way. We saw what Disney did to the sequels and watched the trailer for the high republic I have low expectations
@@joenathan8059 Yes, but fanboys also ignore quite decent work they did in rest of the new canon and act like they already see what it is really about. Sorry, but all I see is pure salt.
@@TheRezro quite decent work? The new comics are abysmal the new thrawn trilogy is objectively inferior to the original despite being written by the same person due to disneys grip. The other novels are at BEST bad legends books quality wise, and the anthology films sucked. The only successes were the clone wars final season and The Mandalorian, both helmed by people who disney can't vice grip
As a aspiring author, I understand that conflict keeps things interesting, especially when your subject is war. If this series is going to get anywhere, it needs a form of conflict. If not war, then it needs a conflict of ideologies. Though, that’s just an example.
If so, then I could see a Disney+ series about the New Sith Wars having real potential. Accord to some sources, the galaxy’s economy collapsed and were risking becoming primitive again due to the destruction.
"A more optimistic period of time." Idk about y'all but I find planets being glassed, populations being genocided, and civilizations being destroyed far more interesting than a bunch of hippies eating pudding all day.
From what I read it was generally peaceful period for galaxy, but it doesn't mean that there was no issues. Core plot of High Republic would be expedition of Jedi against local warlord, so there could be actually grim shit happening there. Just it would not affect general population.
@@TheRezro Yeah I'm not interested in little skirmishes, border disputes, or a few uppity warlords getting too big for their britches in a galaxy of *thousands* of worlds. Let's see some interesting shit like Malachor V on a regular basis lol.
The difference is that instead of just copying something already established in Star Wars to be good and turning that into movies/shows etc, they want to make an inferior but very similar version of said thing so they can claim its their idea and when it bombs because they turn out a pile of shit they can blame it on the "toxic fans".
@@KRYMauL Actually whole thing happen after Kevin Feige intervention. Main problem of Sequel Trilogy was that it take place not far enough from New Republic period in EU, so people have reasons to complain. Actually High Republic is brilliant idea for Disney to have naw take on franchise without interfering with EU.
@@lupuswarrior6785 Probably people who don't understand what Mary Sue (a stand-in character) is and never actually watch Star Wars to know that most Jadi and Sith are overpowered by design. Rey power level isn't even middle tier.
Disney: "This is going to be a hopeful and optimistic time in Star Wars history." Me: "It literally a War in the stars! Its not supposed to be optimistic!"
@@seekingabsolution1907 the original trilogy is a lot of things. 'optimistic' is not one of them. Had it been 'optimistic' Star Wars would not be a thing today. Optimistic is boring.
@@seekingabsolution1907 The original trilogy was realistic, not optimiatic. Ffs, Lukes father cuts off his hand and probably millions (if not billions) of people die because an old man was a maniac that was *pure evil* . The high republic sounds more like a star trek to me when described by disney than star wars. Star wars is, and has always been, a space opera but after the rise of darth Kenedy, it became more of an action film.
@@coledavis5212 No, she was not. This crap called the "sequel trilogy" and most of the other stuff called "Disney Star Wars" is crap and hers to own up to for that!
Oops. She wasn’t fired YET, but removed entirely from creative control. Essentially a death sentence for her career at Lucasfilms unless she is back at what she is good at, serving coffee to her bosses.
The problem with that is that Disney creates content that's primarily designed for kids so that's who there trying to appeal too everyone else is secondary.
Star Wars is a lie There is only the mouse Through the mouse I gain lack of love for Star Wars Through lack of love for Star Wars i gain Money and SJWS Through money and SJWS George Lucas's chains are broken The mouse shall set me free Darth Mouse's creed.
I feel like 200 years is not (in the grand scheme of things) a long enough time frame to go from the "Golden Age of the Jedi" and the "High" Republic era to the dogmatic rigidity of the Jedi Order and the decadence and corruption of the Republic during the final days of the Clone Wars.
With normal humans, I would disagree. But star wars has multiple races that live for over 1000 years, and Yoda was probably on the council even then, after all it's only 1/5 of his life away. There would still be jedi masters alive at the time to keep the traditions "pure", particularly in such a dogmatic order.
@@legendsofstarwars9795 Good point, though it depends on whether you're counting the entire old republic, or just the republic as it stands after the ruusan reformations. If the latter then you're only looking at a difference of a few centuries.
The Old Republic has good writers who care about the story, and who don't want to force their views on people. The High Republic You got to be high af to enjoy that shit.
The Old Republic: - Very good and immersive. - Has amazing female characters. - Inspired loved games like SWTOR. The hIGh Republic: - Hopefuly it will not be another copy like TFA - SJW stuff. - Will inspire a few toys.
Not just female characters, gay characters too (like Juhani). But according to Disney Star Wars never had representation for anyone so they need to jam sjw shit into everything in a way that doesn’t seem realistic at all.
Are y’all retarded? Have y’all not been paying attention to what has been happening for the last five years? Disney has only had one idea for Star Wars: social politics. They have been forcing it into Star Wars for no reasons other than “more diversity” and when people try to give them constructive criticism for their shitt movies they just say that they’re “racists” or that we “hate women” but we’re just pissed off that they they’re happily throwing away Star Wars for social politics
That Malgus line is one of the many reasons I play Sith Warrior. Sure, they're brutal, but they've got that Warrior-Philosopher vibe. They've got interesting perspectives which, while not making them "Good Guys" gives them a good motivation.
@@randomcenturion7264 a light side Sith Warrior is one of my favorite star wars characters. Baras and whasthisface underestimated him because he wasn't needlessly brutal but he ends up tearing down everything they built in order to reform the empire
Disney makes endgame and the mandalorion. Nup let's just focus on whatever anti sjw hot take some idiots on RUclips spew out. Disney is in the business of making money nothing else. The fact that you think they have any actual moral desire to include diversity just shows how much of a sheep you and people like you are.
@@Youboremenow the "moral desire for diversity" exists specifically to further the bottomline by increasing appeal to lowest common denominators, you disingenuous dolt
Old republic: *has the harrower, Darth Marr, Darth Malgus and Darth Revan as enemies to fight and strive doing so* High Republic: *has no enemies so it'll be boring like everything disney has created*
The only interesting thing in the period was how the Trade Federation began as a monopoly and exploited the outer rimmed systems for profit in the free trade zones.
DovahRev the problem is that if they add huge conflicts in this era, that’s more retconning of the previous stories. It’s been stated over and over again that this time was really chill. Jedis were an unstoppable force and barely loss. The Republic was at their peek.
*Me:* * *_reads title_* * the first is most likely gonna be complete and utter garbage considering the people behind it and the latter is still loved by fans.
Most stuff in new canon is actually good. But as most whining haters did see only movies, or copy-paste memes about those, they of course don't know shit about that.
@@TheRezro Because the movies are the main source of material and they were straight crap. There is some good things about the new trilogy, but the negative greatly outweighs the positive.
@@Red_Eyed People like to bash on Disney Star Wars but the only mainstream product of theirs that’s wasn’t good was the sequels. People love TCW, Rebels, Fallen Order, Solo, Rogue One and the Mandalorian. Other than the sequels, Disney has done a decent job. I have a feeling that the High Republic will be shit but we have no way of knowing yet.
@@ImTheReverse I love all the side stories. Including Solo's movie even though it recieved a lot of hate. But I 100% blame Disney. They literally rushed all 3 just to rake in the cash.
To me, the High Republic sort of implies in it's title and by the visual depictions as a time period of haughty, self-righteous, elitist class ship... Which is kind of interesting and opens a world of possibilities. We know how a Darksider can be consumed by his or her own passions, essentially falling to their own ambitions and quest for accumulated power and political/social control, but what about the lightsiders?... Is it possible that a lightsider, who may deem him or herself to be a the epitome of virtuosity --- the pinnacle of righteousness, can be so jaded due their extreme piety that the may view themselves as above and beyond the average non-force sensitive person to the point of believing that it is their sworn duty to think for and govern ordinary citizens because they feel that they may be too ignorant or worlds to govern themselves?.. Think of the mad Jedi Jorrus C'baoth.. An astute and respected Master by profession who was assertive -- even aggressive at times, when he dealt with ordinary citizens of the Galaxy.. At times, he forcibly imposed his own judgements in rulings in matters of negotiation concerning regular people and was so arrogant and self righteous that he would force nudge people in his way as he walked. He basically took over the leadership role of command in the "Outbound Flight" project the moment they left space dock. He eventually turned to the Darkside in is actions as he would physically punish those who rejected his leadership. He truly believed that he was ORDAINED by the Force to take control of lesser beings simply because he was blessed power to do so.
that would be interesting. The high republic could be about ego and pride, and the old republic about ideology and philosophy. BUT disney is dumb and they will make it all about diversity!! and haha funny group dynamics!!
Why are the Sith Species gone by the time of the clone wars did the Republic commit another bloody genocide like they did during the Great Hyperspace War?
Thor's Hammer inbreeding with human sith, numerous wars with the Jedi, and constant infighting throughout generations and generations eventually phased their species out
the high republic has been great so far... it mentioned kolto and how the selkath are becoming pirates essentially because of this new thing called bacta thats becoming popular and I just loved that reference
@@blankblooo6372 its shame that folks are trying to twist the fact that there is diversity in a show into an agenda piece about politics exposing 🇺🇸 problems and reform. They will ignore the story quaility to bitch about groups that are showen.
@@blankblooo6372 it’s too… hippy dippy for me. I like the war, the chaos. It keeps things interesting. The fact that the “Jedi starfighters” of the high Republic era require you to have some stupid ass “morality check” with your lightsaber whenever you want to use the ship’s weapons. Cringe.
@@PeterMuskrat6968the Jedi are litterally ment to be peacekeepers, in a time where there isn't war (and hasn't been one in nearly 800 years) it makes sense for their ships to have a lock of sorts on the weapon so that way they can try to actually make peace and be diplomatic before just killing someone. Also, there is large conflict in the high republic, specifically the Nihil threat (as well as 1 or 2 more)
@@darthbane5676 Yup. Fanboys also have uber-diarrhea when Old Republic was announced back in the day. Now those same people claim that they love Legends and Old Republic, instead that nonsense form sequels where people heal, steal bodies and force isn't black and white 0_0
@eXGn0cKS Gaming Statically most New Canon is good, but statistically most babies didn't read anything of that as they limit themselves to memes about few bad movies.
@eXGn0cKS Gaming Ok, you transparently are trolling now. Though for rest of the people, there is more way more good stuff like new Thrawn book, Fallen Order, Rebels cartoon, last season of Clone Wars, there is actually lot of good books and comic book stories and side movies mostly also were decent. It isn't just Mandalorian. But haters are obviously illiterate so they limit themselves to whining about mediocre sequels (there is a lot of worst stuff in Expanded Universe then those), but people praising superiority of Legends never actually read anything beside stuff carefully selected by Disney, if even that.
TheRezro show me a new disney character better than Kyle Katarn or Mara. Just one. The only good thing these new disney approved projects have done is recanonize a lot of the EU vehicles.
Difference between High and Old Republic is that old republic was written by original and creative people and High republic is being written by people that are well... High! Ou and one off those that write high republic said that he doesn't consider alien jedi, sith etc. as not diverse enough. Wth Disney!? What... The... Hell...!?
the old republic had better art, high does not Avar looks like a dude, supposed to be a female and has the powers of a goddess. The best of the bestest evar... and that pose that she was in. I think several artists need to learn some basic anatomy.
I personally hated the Art Style in the MMO Old Republic it felt more modern in the designs less Retro futuristic like what Star Wars is meant to look like the Republic troopers were over designed etc. Knights of the old republic on the other hand I fucking adored it still felt like Star Wars but had its own look which was faithful the Neo Crusaders look fantastic and the overall designs just felt and looked amazing miles better than a The Old Republic MMO
I don't know if I trust this Lucasfilm team anymore. After all, they are the ones who care more about spreading their political agendas before a good story
What's the different? Old Republic: Wears Armor, humble and actually fighting for truth and Justice High Republic: So snobby they wear gold fabrics and judging by what direction Disney going with the Jedi, they are hypocritical, corrupted and don't care about the galaxy and remain in active instead of peace keepers...
Honestly at least this looks faithful to the look of Star Wars unlike the Old Republic MMO which went for a more modern sci look focusing on over designed armour and technology. I fucking adored Knights of the old republic art style which was still faithful to that retro look but had its own style which was miles better than the Old Republic.
@@CaptainAmercia Im sorry did you just say knights had a better art style? my dude it was retrolookin because it was made in the late 90s and early 2000s. The MMO is amazing and the best star wars RPGs we've ever had
@@Spartan-vo5vg because it was created in 2003 that wasn’t why it had a retro artistic that’s just how Star Wars has always looked all Kotor did was create its own artistic in a new Era yet still continues to look like Star Wars. Unfortunately the Old Republic in a lot of elements followed this but it also has a lot of elements which just don’t look like they belong in Star Wars to overall armour design which look too much like modern technology or Sith armour which makes them look like an 80s hair Metal band to the ingame World of Warcraft artistic which does a lot of harm to the overall look (my biggest problem) Some elements I love and others I just don’t like. On the topic of Story I honestly enjoyed it but it’s no Kotor and many agree it completely butchered Darth Reven.
The old republic jedi were as straine dand corrupt as they come. They were fighting a war so their ideals slipped and they were constantly falling to the dark side.
@@apomtaylor8054 Yes but here's the thing. In the prequels, the sith actually did something. They duelled Jedi and commanded the separatists (through Dooku). The sith went into hiding 1000 years before episode 1, and the Jedi thought they were extinct during that time. So sith shouldn't be making an appearance.
9:38 guilded robes and ornate headwear. Looks like you've got to update your outfit Alan, a beanie doesn't cut it as ornate headwear. Maybe a Elrond headband could suffice.
I came to watch this video for information, i open the comments, and all of a sudden a massive civil war starts between Legends fans and Canon fans, and it makes me sad, because we cant just be Star Wars fans
Note that none of the comments in the top criticizing it has actually read them yet- they were all going off on conjecture. The first book came out at the start of 2021, so all these comments from a year ago hadn’t read it.
@Andoc *tips Fodora its because one if for gender diversity and one for sex diversity *tips Fodora harder theres a difference sir *tips Fodora so hard it creates a simpularity
@@themikeyrussell69 That's a matter of opinion. From a visual standpoint the sequels are beautiful and stunning. Originality? I'll let Palpatine speak for himself once he rises from the dead again. The plot? Snoke shouldn't have been defeated in The Last Jedi, he should've been defeated in Rise of Skywalker. Rey being a nobody with nobody parents is much better than her being a Palpatine, or any other relation to any character besides Ki Adi Mundi since he was actually allowed to marry and have children.
@@themikeyrussell69 Im gonna dissapoint you, but sequel trilogy is really bad at some places (especially 2 last films, the first one atleast TRIES to be interesting and new, but Mary Sue Rey and other things ruin it). Although i must admit, the OST in the sequels were good. John Williams never dissapoints with OST. And, in MY opinion, Kylo Ren was one of the interesting new figures in sequels, but even this is not enough to just say "Sequel trilogy is good tho lmao". As the one who stated before, from visual standpoint sequels are really good: the first film combines animatronics and graphics, like the original trilogy does, and originality is objectively bad. Same with plot. But again, its only mine opinion And yes, i love to speak in essay
Personal opinion: I feel like 200 years seems a bit too brief if they want to do a story like this. I remember in episode 1 the Jedi specifically said that they haven't encountered any Sith for thousands of years. The pirate and planet villain seems more appropriate for a one of story, not a full blown origin franchise. If Lucasfilm wants to be liberal in terms of creating new lore, why not travel back for ten of thousands of years ago just when the Jedi/Jeddaii order was first formed and the Galaxy was still stuck with steam punk 17th century like vehicles and weapons like the Dawn of the Jedi book
I sort of see the Old Republic as the Middle Ages. It expands over a great period of time with constant wars and changes in power. The Mandalorian War is also very similar to the expansion of the Mongol Empire and the Great Viking Army. Similarly, the High Republic can be compared to the Renaissance. They both follow events and reforms that led to a more relatively peaceful and culture-focused era.
I'm probably going to be a little contrarian when I say I actually kinda like The High republic (So far at least) And while we aren't exactly getting the Old Republic I do hope that when they do get to that period of time we will get the stories we all know and love. Reven, Treya, Exile, Ectc.
Despite not being sure about this, I would love to see them incorporate Darth Zannah and Darth Cognus in this. Bane's apprentice and her apprentice were two very different Sith. Zannah was a beautiful, yet terribly powerful Sith Sorceress, and Cognus a scarred former assassin who could see the future. It would be interesting to see how they started to shape the Sith grand plan.
It's interesting. Disney seems to promote High Republic as 'less dogmatic' and possibly more flexible period. But according to all the logic: it should be least flexible, most dogmatic and by large a margin least 'progressive' period of time in Jedi history. But I think the reason why they do it is that no one in Disney seems to agree with notion that overly 'plentiful' and easy times give birth to actual dogmatic, inflexible and at times oppressive ideology while the times of strife Old Republic represented had to be flexible to balance things out and assure Jedi survival during those times. But hey: one of their main points was to bring dinosaurs... so... yeah: I'm not having high hopes for that Star Wars story.
This is quality content: informative, neutral, and detailed yet still personal. I’ll watch more of your SW vids for sure. Also - why did they put the “High Republic” only 200 years before the OT? I think it’s a cool concept to show the post-KOTOR golden age of the Jedi but like they have thousands of years to work with. Why keep the timeline so short?
I hate to say it but your info about the Ruusan Reformation in relation to canon is incorrect. In Legends the Galactic Republic was founded ca. 25 000 years BBY. After the end of the wars with Sith ca. 1000 BBY the Ruusan Reformation was implemented and the Galactic Republic continued on until Palpatine's Empire. In Canon the government before 1000 BBY was called just Republic or later Old Republic. The Galactic Republic was founded ca. 1000 BBY and just like in Legends in lasted until Palpatine's Empire.
What about the Mandalorian Wars? Didn’t they take place before the formation of the Old Republic? I’m legitimately asking. I don’t remember it’s been so long since I’ve read up or done any research on the topic.
Andrew Boccasino if I remember correctly, I believe the Mandalorian Wars happened during the Old Republic era. I’m only basing that off of what I remember from the first KOTOR game because that happens directly after the Mandalorian Wars and during the Old Republic Period. I think that’s correct anyway.
Yeah, I just finished my first play through of KOTOR, where Revan defeated the Mandalorians and is/was now leading the Sith in conquering the galaxy. I think it said 2 1/2 years after the Mandalorian wars in the loading screens.
judging from obi wan kenobi's word a "hundred years treaty between the republic" it could be a possibility that the mandalorian wars started 500 years ago
On one hand the high rebellion bloc has almost no large scale interesting events and has not been fleshed out in legends so that’s good we will get more stuff for it, and it doesn’t contradict current legends most likely, however the reason there is nothing there for legends is because it’s an era with nothing really happening aka boring and also it’s Disney.
@@MrEvilTag the rule of 2 was already in place during the high republic There is a twilek sith master who later became the master of Darth tenebrous during the time period but that's pretty much it
Old Republic: Before The Sith set a Galaxy wide grease fire. High Republic: After they finished fixing and rebuilding every thing wrecked by said grease fire.
Here are the three biggest differences between the old republic and the high republic: - Old republic - worked hard at explaining and detailing key features that we see in canon today (sith, mandalor, etc) - Old Republic - is mentioned by name in canon on a number of occasions, most famous being Obi Wan in A New Hope - Old republic - was cooler than the high republic. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk 🤣
Star Wars fans: Stop ruining star wars with this politically-correct garbage, listen, we wan... Disney: What you said, a family friendly era? Here it is!
@Gaius Wyrden that’s exactly the shitt that Disney has been throwing at us! We’re trying to make a point here. Basically people try to give Disney constructive criticism because their movies suck booty cheeks and then they just say that “we hate women” or that we’re “racists” then they try to force in social politics and more “diversity” instead of focusing on good writing Also who in the hell were you talking to when you said “so you really are anti feminist sexist” nobody in this comment section has mentioned anything regarding that in any way at all. You saying this is just implying that you think that we are “anti feminist sexists” by not liking the sequel trilogy. You are truly a woke.
There is nothing really that isnt politically correct about what we want. Who says it has to have so many women. It is all just story writing and what fans want. Disney doesn't understand good writing. They can try to make what they have like other Disney shows politically correct. But they cant with star wars because it isnt truly theirs. You could literally tell a star wars fan to write the script and oversee the filming and it would be a huge success
but then they would give us old republic and more fans would complain about them copying the eu there is no way lucasfilms are able to give us something without being hated on for dumb reasons
@@revanchist2256 There's a misconception that Starwars fans are difficult to please. That's not true in the slightlest. Look at the mandalorian a small scale story that includes an original character that united the fan base. Same with the clone wars series. We're not unreasonable. Give us something good and we'll like it even if its somthing small like the mandalorian. I think everyone would love an Old republic film. This idea that starwars fans are difficult to please and all want different things is peddled by disney apologists who are pissed that fans hate the sequels.
Am I seriously the only one willing to give High Republic a chance? I love the Old Republic, but that story has already been explored a lot in Legends. High Republic takes place in a period that not even Legends explored much of. It's something different, something new. And I am really excited for it. It's not Old Republic, but it's not supposed to be. I'm personally really excited to see the new characters and conflicts that the High Republic could have to offer, as well as if there are any Sith working behind the scenes. I'm optimistic about it because a lot of the new canon is good. The comics, the novels, The Mandalorian, Rogue One, Rebels, etc. If you want Old Republic, you still have Old Republic. If you want new stories set in an unexplored era, you have High Republic.
Legends always went into the Sith vs Jedi, which becomes redundant after Revan and Bane since they became extinct (to the Jedi at least). Personally, I kinda like the idea of exploring what the Golden Age of the Jedi was. Seeing them at their height so we can compare and contrast them in the Clone Wars.
Look at the whiteboard Lucasfilm had made and tell me that it is distinct. It’s the exact same thing with these characters nobody is going to care about.
The saddest part is all of the new fans who don’t know or never will know about the Old Republic. And then the “fans” who will try and claim the High Republic is better than the old republic even though they never read or played anything related to the Old Republic.
I'm already running into that. Hell, I'm even starting to run into people who claim to be Star Wars fans but have never seen the prequels, let alone the OT.
You do know most SW fans only know the Old Republic from the fucking CGI trailers they put out for the game right? I can count on one hand the number of people who I've met who have actively played the MMO
The old republic is vastly superior. It gave us nuanced Sith and Jedi. It gave us Revan, Malgus, Kreia, Marr, Yuthara, and Valkorian. Lets not forget Batsila and Satele Shan and their very tight fitting robes. 8D ALSO, it was the first bit of lore (for me) that introduced the Mandalorians as a weird cross between nomads and Spartans
@@krvproductions6642 of course not But my dude ... what choices do we have. it's not like Disney is going to give up on star wars and let the writers do as they want any time soon ...or ever ..my point.. some bullshit Revan is better then no Revan We at there mercy bro
I would like to see a story from the sith narrative as how they worked in secret to not be discovered while still gaining power over the 1000 ish years they were believed to be extinct. I'm not against stories that give humanity to evil. Hell even an alternate timeline where the empire won and the sith were then in charge would be kind of cool
True I really don’t trust Disney with the High Republic. They allow their political ideas to get in the way of good story telling. I’m actually glad they’re not touching the Old Republic because they would ruin it
You somewhat mention zayne carrick lol he did survive the pedwan massacre and actually become a knight late on after clearing his name for being framed
The Old Republic had really some badass moments and factions like the eternal empire. The High Republic sounds like it was made by some drug addicts in Disney.
The old Republic: great characters, good story from any sides, awesooome cinematics The high republic: oh look another unrelatable white chick as the main character
Bruh, I read the first book and expected it to be garbage. It's not. Not great either just meh. Avar Kriss (that white girl) isn't even the main character. I don't think there is a main character in the first book at least. Follows multiple perspectives
@@apomtaylor8054 Huh. Doesn't sound like my type of book (because I prefer it when the main character, the main threat, and what the main character has to do, is told to the reader in the first chapter).
@@billystokes3917 I would argue that the main character is the leader of the big bads ( trying not to spoil anything because its honestly a good read) I was riveted to the book the entire time bout to start number 2. Its a build up to the old republic 100% they mention the selkath turning into pirates due to this new thing called bacta replacing kolto.
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The republic: snorts cocaine.
The republic: now were the high republic.
Yes
Honestly tho these writers are on some crack or some shitt like that
@@seanandrews5329 Will the title say HIGH Republic,right?
*spice
Awesome
I absolutely love the old republic and especially the daring sith who walked through the front door of the jedi temple .
Plays Anakin's Dark Deeds while Malgus destroys the Jedi Temple
Legend Anshuman That would be Darth Malgus if you want to know more about him read Decieved
It was less of walking through a front door and more of furiously knocking and banging on it, then kicking it open and emptieing a machine gun
@Adrock 99 you can see him saying: Wait for it...
I want kotor movie
Ugh just imagine how great this franchise would be if they just used the 30+ years of source material they purchased....
They bought the franchise and then did some spring cleaning, but instead of a mop or something they brought a flamethrower
@@austingole4861 That is a very apt, and now my new favorite way, of explaining what happened to Star Wars when Disney got their hands on it.
Which is funny because Disney loves making poopy remakes of their old movies(for the sole reason of retaining the copyright)
Unfortunately that's all we're going to get imagination
@Alec W wow. Way to miss the point
Prequel Trilogy = Jedi in power & Sith are in hiding
Original Trilogy = Sith in power & Jedi in hiding
I would love a time period where both Jedi & Sith are equally in power.
@Mod Maker **cough** The Old Republic **cough**
@@basedtvrk9125
Great!
@@basedtvrk9125 You might want to get that cough looked at.
The old republic
See above
In the high republic background:
The Sith: chuckles in evil
yea i would love to see a new pair of sith be introuced
Because two hundred years is almost no time at all when for 25,000 years the Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice.
Heres an alternative
The Sith : *Chuckles in Rule Of 2 *
@@AdmiralWillisLee1942 and chuckles more in secret plan to create an army that destroys the republic or other evil Plans
Brandishing a knife and a few puppet strings. With the even more powerful/etherial force being looking at both sides in shame or just completely ignoring them.
Old Republic - thousands of years before the prequels
High Republic - 200 years before the prequels
Old Republic = Star Wars
High Republic = *not* Star Wars
@@Kepora1 high republic = canon according to SJW karen woke libtard KK
Was very disappointing to learn it was so close in time to the Movies.
@@Kinuhbud it's not Star Wars, nor canon, so no need to worry about that. :)
Theyll find a way to get luke to travel back in time and somehow show up again.
200 years before the Naboo blockade?
Will we see Yoda with a full head of hair or will it already be thinning on top…?
_"Hmm, safe the Jedi order will be under my rule - fuck it up I will not"._
Definitely one of the few really important questions about this period.
Honestly, I think they forgot Yoda's age. But they may say he is not 900 years old and has not born yet.
I'm holding on to my last strand of hope they get this right
@@miguelmontenegro3520 that would make no sense at all. I mean the child in the mandalorian is a baby and it is clearly stated that he's 50 years old. It'd be weird if the Yoda species suddenly doesn't get older than 200.
@@krvproductions6642 I'd rather focus on more important things like mandalorian season 2 and Kenobi
One is a well thought out and executed passion project by fans of the franchise who want to bring star wars to its full potential with multiple engaging storylines, unforgettable characters, intriguing moral questions, groundbreaking battles, heartbreaking tragedies, and new perspectives on light vs dark.
The other is a corporate-mandated response to a series of disastrous films and projects.
Rest in Peace Bioware :_(
@Generation Tech honestly tho that hit me hard
This is truth
@@GenerationTech Bioware shall never b forgotten. They made amazing games like KOTOR 1&2, Battlefront 1&2, Republic commando, and every single great star wars game that came out. (even if they didn't make ALL of them, I'm still gonna say they did)
"well thought out and executed" lmao
It’s crazy how we can speak about these battles and events like they actually happened in real life
It didn’t really hit me how much work has gone into developing the Star Wars universe until I was looking at a map of every known hyperspace lane in existence and listening to a 50+ minute documentary of the history of the Old Republic.
Its almost like reading a story! :D
Nothings real
Art imitates life.
George Lucas intentionally drew attention away from the science in his science fiction, and focused more on treating it like a history book.
The old republic: what fans wanted, The High republic: what Disney thought the fans wanted
Hipsters: Repeating memes without understanding the problem.
@@TheRezro dumbass:complete garbage that makes fandoms cancer
Disney doesn't care what fans want.
@@frankb3347 Boy 0_0 ANY corporation doesn't care what fans want (look on Hasbro or Werner as examples). Disney is actually one of what show most care, as they originated as niche creators. So entitled behavior of some fanboys is downright hilarious, especially as it usually go in part with conviction that hating Disney make them mature (when is literally the opposite).
@@joenathan8059 And why you saying that in topic of pop-media (=definition of greedy corporate dumpster) and not classic (so elitist pretentious dumpster)? Fanboys are cancers because in most cases they aren't real fans, but entitled bitches with unrealistic undefinable demands, who don't know shit about media in debate, and just pretend to be cool by repeating fake memes from internet. It is why literally no one should care about them. Relations of actual fanbom with Disney is nowadays way better, but you of course wouldn't know that form overblown Tumbler drama.
Old Republic > High Republic
The nihl are the bad guys in the high republic right?
@@chrisrenk9938 yup. Some extremely ScArY pirates...
It’s not even out damn
statements based on facts > lunatics convinced that they see future
Don't forget the dinosaurs
High Republic: "Everyone is perfect and awesome!"
Old Republic: "Everyone has flaws and questionable motivations!"
I don't think we have to wonder which will have the more compelling story.
@Joel Myrland
I think you overlooked my attempt at sarcasm ;). I agree the Old Republic is incredible.
Yeah, you cant make characters without flaws. Or else you'll just end up with a plot device!
NerdyHipster you’ll just end up with Rey
It’s called Star Wars, not Star Peace. Without a conflict, it’ll be hard to keep it from becoming dull
And yet when they made Luke have a compelling character arc and motives in TLJ, where he see he isn’t human - people started raging like babies. I’m so sick of people just hating Disney and anything they make
Hello, its probably been covered before. But I just have to ask, how do most people fly around the galaxy. We always see the war ships and smugglers. But how does your average man get from one side of the galaxy to the other? Is there a taxi cruisers, state funded space bus? How do I get from coruscant to endor to feast upon ewok meat?
In the Legends books there are many references to star ships that are basically cruise liners carrying people between planets. In the prequel movies Anakin, R2 and Padme go from Coruscant to Naboo on a transport ship.
UK Media Warrior exactly what I was going to say
@@ukmediawarrior that transport ship from ep 2 was like the greyhound bus of the star wars galaxy. the silver naboo starship is like a private jet. i wonder what in-between ships are like.
@@Anthony-zl9ow Some standard Corellian cruisers I believe, like a demilitarized version of the Tantive IV but bigger (and probably slower).
Padme and Anakin took a "bus" to Naboo after her assassination attempt
Who’s to bet we barely see any alien characters and the only true diversity we get are just different shades of human?
Hilo Takenaka ima bet we get a transvestite as well to add a little flair
@@stephenwiseman1712 Hoping they double down on using OT & Prequel era races.
I will call them racist
You're wrong, search for high republic and you'll see many aliens
Fucking right dude. Like what they did with Starfire in Titans. She's a fucking orange alien man it doesn't get much more diverse than that
Kid: mom can we have old republic
Mom: we have old republic at home
Old republic at home = high republic
This made me breath out through my nose
But the game is free tho
@@dmann5938 it’s a joke
High republic is not supposed to be the old republic
They are completely different
Different time periods, different stories
@@thenerd6416 don't even bother, these people will never stop crying
The main difference is - the Old Republic is not high, it's totally sober
Somehow i doubt that
My only problem with the Old Republic is the MMO the art style in that is just so uninteresting and focused on more modern designs than the retro look of the Original trilogy, Knights of the old republic, and Prequels. Look at the Republic troopers armour for example they look like fan art of Clone Armour made with a modern sci fi art style over designed and filled with shit.
@@CaptainAmercia Same with First Order's Sith Troopers but damn the Mando show is growing with great confidence and quality content such as the Dark Troopers that are such a monumental addition for the Empire's fictional faction.
This a ghost stories reference?
@@fumeking701 Immediately thought that
The old republic is a well crafted story for star wars.
The high republic is just Disney trying to copy something they don't understand.
And you are pretending that you know anything about something you never see... classic 0_0
@@TheRezro it's called the high republic. Disney wouldn't have called it that if it wasn't trying to get legends fans attention in some way. We saw what Disney did to the sequels and watched the trailer for the high republic I have low expectations
@@joenathan8059 Yes, but fanboys also ignore quite decent work they did in rest of the new canon and act like they already see what it is really about. Sorry, but all I see is pure salt.
@Gery A Same person who know beforehand, quality of something what he literally couldn't see yet. That is sarcasm by the way.
@@TheRezro quite decent work? The new comics are abysmal the new thrawn trilogy is objectively inferior to the original despite being written by the same person due to disneys grip. The other novels are at BEST bad legends books quality wise, and the anthology films sucked. The only successes were the clone wars final season and The Mandalorian, both helmed by people who disney can't vice grip
As a aspiring author, I understand that conflict keeps things interesting, especially when your subject is war. If this series is going to get anywhere, it needs a form of conflict. If not war, then it needs a conflict of ideologies. Though, that’s just an example.
If so, then I could see a Disney+ series about the New Sith Wars having real potential. Accord to some sources, the galaxy’s economy collapsed and were risking becoming primitive again due to the destruction.
Specially if you are willing to sacrifice
"A more optimistic period of time."
Idk about y'all but I find planets being glassed, populations being genocided, and civilizations being destroyed far more interesting than a bunch of hippies eating pudding all day.
*A more optimistic period of time.*
If that's the case then what the droid attack on the wookie?
From what I read it was generally peaceful period for galaxy, but it doesn't mean that there was no issues. Core plot of High Republic would be expedition of Jedi against local warlord, so there could be actually grim shit happening there. Just it would not affect general population.
@@TheRezro still, it doesn't even come close to an all out war between the republic and the sith empire
@@TheRezro Yeah I'm not interested in little skirmishes, border disputes, or a few uppity warlords getting too big for their britches in a galaxy of *thousands* of worlds. Let's see some interesting shit like Malachor V on a regular basis lol.
@@synergysnow3003 So? How that impact actual quality?
The difference is that instead of just copying something already established in Star Wars to be good and turning that into movies/shows etc, they want to make an inferior but very similar version of said thing so they can claim its their idea and when it bombs because they turn out a pile of shit they can blame it on the "toxic fans".
Possibly.
It seems more like they want to flesh out Star Wars one era at a time, but with Kathleen Kennedy in charge idk how it will turn out.
Thunderbug who wants to bet all the main characters are going to be Mary Sue unbeatable characters
@@KRYMauL Actually whole thing happen after Kevin Feige intervention. Main problem of Sequel Trilogy was that it take place not far enough from New Republic period in EU, so people have reasons to complain. Actually High Republic is brilliant idea for Disney to have naw take on franchise without interfering with EU.
@@lupuswarrior6785 Probably people who don't understand what Mary Sue (a stand-in character) is and never actually watch Star Wars to know that most Jadi and Sith are overpowered by design. Rey power level isn't even middle tier.
Disney: "This is going to be a hopeful and optimistic time in Star Wars history."
Me: "It literally a War in the stars! Its not supposed to be optimistic!"
So much this.
Actually it is, did you not watch the original trilogy? Are you a fake star wars fan?
@@seekingabsolution1907 the original trilogy is a lot of things. 'optimistic' is not one of them. Had it been 'optimistic' Star Wars would not be a thing today. Optimistic is boring.
@@seekingabsolution1907 *laughs in Jedi Temple* yes. Optimistic Master Skywalker, there are too many Disney Star Wars Fans, what are we going to do!
@@seekingabsolution1907 The original trilogy was realistic, not optimiatic. Ffs, Lukes father cuts off his hand and probably millions (if not billions) of people die because an old man was a maniac that was *pure evil* . The high republic sounds more like a star trek to me when described by disney than star wars.
Star wars is, and has always been, a space opera but after the rise of darth Kenedy, it became more of an action film.
is disney deaf, do they not hear star wars fans at all, I mean dude. They are litteraly making a series off of the most boring time of star wars.
Elaine Pullaro ya it’s called the high republic because there were no problems so wtf is this even gunna be about?
It’ll be about fighting white male sexism and xenophobia because Disney can’t think outside of their own dogma.
@@theguybehindyou4762 ah yes fighting xenophobia by having mostly humans in a galaxy full of aliens, ffs disney
@@theguybehindyou4762 so you are saying that fighting sexism and xenophobia is a problem for you and you are against that ???
Loïc Blasetti It makes for a terrible story
The differences:
One is stylistic and interesting
One is made by Disney
Correction:
One is stylistic and interesting
One is made by Disney to sell SJW and feminist agendas
Wolf Guard Miestwin
Kathleen Kennedy was fired. Don’t blame Disney for the sequels, because they only funded them.
@@coledavis5212 No, she was not. This crap called the "sequel trilogy" and most of the other stuff called "Disney Star Wars" is crap and hers to own up to for that!
@@coledavis5212 was she though? Shes still making announcements, and still seems to have creative control
Oops. She wasn’t fired YET, but removed entirely from creative control. Essentially a death sentence for her career at Lucasfilms unless she is back at what she is good at, serving coffee to her bosses.
The High Republic is like that one kid in school that tried to copy your personality just to get attention but failed every time
Be real, you were that kid in school.
@@Coreisus no you
@@Coreisus ooo nooo i got destroyed by a yootoob reply, i guess thats what i get for daring to make a comment
@@voivodadracula1936 bruh, I just saw the opportunity.
I didn't mean it, haha
@@Coreisus how did i get myself rekt two times in a row by you?
It okay bro
Its quite simple,
Old Republic: God Tier
High Republic: Nal Hutta Sewer Tier
Lol that's comedy.
Don’t forget about Darth Bane
@@bemotivated8443 Yes, agreed!
That's an insult to Nal Hutta sewers.
Too bad Disney will never read into the fans opinion
When this fails spectacularly do you think Disney will start listening to actual Star Wars fans instead of making stuff nobody asked for?
"no"- Rogal Dorn
HAHAHAHA..
No..
Absolutely not
The problem with that is that Disney creates content that's primarily designed for kids so that's who there trying to appeal too everyone else is secondary.
No.
So the high republic time period means no sith? What’s the fun in that?
Star Wars is a lie
There is only the mouse
Through the mouse I gain lack of love for Star Wars
Through lack of love for Star Wars i gain Money and SJWS
Through money and SJWS George Lucas's chains are broken
The mouse shall set me free
Darth Mouse's creed.
But you're ignoring all the caring, sharing and learning.
The sith maybe will be like rebels
@@DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ The 1st Order Code
Yea we get some space pirates that can hyperspace jump anywhere
Given what has happened recently to alot of sci fi franchises we know damn well how this is going to turn out.
Heck even 40k is starting to slowly show cracks
Makes one want to flex their creative muscles and try to get a project off the ground doesn't it?
@@voivodadracula1936 That's what I've been saying!
I feel like 200 years is not (in the grand scheme of things) a long enough time frame to go from the "Golden Age of the Jedi" and the "High" Republic era to the dogmatic rigidity of the Jedi Order and the decadence and corruption of the Republic during the final days of the Clone Wars.
With normal humans, I would disagree. But star wars has multiple races that live for over 1000 years, and Yoda was probably on the council even then, after all it's only 1/5 of his life away. There would still be jedi masters alive at the time to keep the traditions "pure", particularly in such a dogmatic order.
It was more or less enough for Rome.
@@matthewbreytenbach4483 True but the Roman Empire didn't last near as long as the Old Republic.
@@legendsofstarwars9795
Good point, though it depends on whether you're counting the entire old republic, or just the republic as it stands after the ruusan reformations.
If the latter then you're only looking at a difference of a few centuries.
It only took America 200 years
Was worried about the high republic after what they did with the sequels,.. but I’m super happy with the high republic and how it’s turned out!
Apparently others aren't
The Old Republic has good writers who care about the story, and who don't want to force their views on people.
The High Republic You got to be high af to enjoy that shit.
Knights of the Old Republic 2*
Drew karpeshyn is a fucking terrible writer. Chris Avalon is great lol
The Last Dragonborn Female bruh it’s not even out yet how can you judge it
@@sub-zero5433 bc they never learn
The high republic have not begin yet, this is only Alan's opinion
Because history
The Old Republic:
- Very good and immersive.
- Has amazing female characters.
- Inspired loved games like SWTOR.
The hIGh Republic:
- Hopefuly it will not be another copy like TFA
- SJW stuff.
- Will inspire a few toys.
Not just female characters, gay characters too (like Juhani). But according to Disney Star Wars never had representation for anyone so they need to jam sjw shit into everything in a way that doesn’t seem realistic at all.
MUH FORCED DIVERSITY
Adrock 99 Bastila Shan*
@Adrock 99 If you didn't fall in love with Satelle as a kid, you had no childhood.
Adrock 99 you the man
I'm literally playing SWTOR as I'm watching this. High republic doesnt even seem intresting to me
Then don’t read the comics lol. Y’all act like someone’s holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy these books.
@@user-dx8br5vb3n dont intend to, I have the High republic audio book
That’s why SWTOR is the best
@@slylord8915 Deceived is a fun book
I don't know, I think learning of the thousand years of peace that the films talk about would be dope.
Short answer:
Old republic was made for the sake of entertainment while high republic main focus was diversity.
For good story damn that shitt was great
@@seanandrews5329 which is why it was "decannonized"
It’s not even out yet how do you know it’s gonna be bad
You're right Revan, they are only trolls with no real proof or argument
Are y’all retarded? Have y’all not been paying attention to what has been happening for the last five years? Disney has only had one idea for Star Wars: social politics. They have been forcing it into Star Wars for no reasons other than “more diversity” and when people try to give them constructive criticism for their shitt movies they just say that they’re “racists” or that we “hate women” but we’re just pissed off that they they’re happily throwing away Star Wars for social politics
High republic is good at his job, which is showing how far the Jedi and republic have fallen during the clone wars and the films
Interestingly enough its also either sowing the seeds of said decline or showing the fist signs of it.
Old Republic: “The Empire is war made manifest. That is why it is perfect.”
high republic: dIvErSiTy
Need I go on?
That Malgus line is one of the many reasons I play Sith Warrior. Sure, they're brutal, but they've got that Warrior-Philosopher vibe.
They've got interesting perspectives which, while not making them "Good Guys" gives them a good motivation.
@@randomcenturion7264 a light side Sith Warrior is one of my favorite star wars characters. Baras and whasthisface underestimated him because he wasn't needlessly brutal but he ends up tearing down everything they built in order to reform the empire
That is grossly oversimplifying it
Disney makes endgame and the mandalorion. Nup let's just focus on whatever anti sjw hot take some idiots on RUclips spew out. Disney is in the business of making money nothing else. The fact that you think they have any actual moral desire to include diversity just shows how much of a sheep you and people like you are.
@@Youboremenow the "moral desire for diversity" exists specifically to further the bottomline by increasing appeal to lowest common denominators, you disingenuous dolt
The Old Republic has JUSTICE. The High Republic has SOCIAL JUSTICE. No wonder why Palpatine succeded...
The difference? One is good the other is Disney.
High Republic vs Old Republic, what’s the difference?
Me: “Everything”
Old republic: *has the harrower, Darth Marr, Darth Malgus and Darth Revan as enemies to fight and strive doing so*
High Republic: *has no enemies so it'll be boring like everything disney has created*
Minus mandalorian
@@logicalmindedduck1406 minus filler episodes (even if i do like the mandalorian, some filler episodes were a bit annoying)
bro its not even out yet
we have only seen concept art for the villains
at least wait for it to come out before yelling about it being shit
The only interesting thing in the period was how the Trade Federation began as a monopoly and exploited the outer rimmed systems for profit in the free trade zones.
DovahRev the problem is that if they add huge conflicts in this era, that’s more retconning of the previous stories. It’s been stated over and over again that this time was really chill. Jedis were an unstoppable force and barely loss. The Republic was at their peek.
Legends will always be the true canon and it is the correct history
u have gained my respect, also im learning mandalorian and most of it is from legends so the space viking approves
🥱
Indeed
Let us spread the word of the better palpatine clone saga
I have learned to stomach the Disney stuff only by reminding myself it's Disney canon so it doesn't count as the main Star Wars universe.
It’s quite evident that most people in this comment-section haven’t actually read the High-republic themselves. It’s NOT a peaceful period!
High Republic vs Old Republic What's the difference?: One legalized recreational death sticks
*Me:* * *_reads title_* * the first is most likely gonna be complete and utter garbage considering the people behind it and the latter is still loved by fans.
Most stuff in new canon is actually good. But as most whining haters did see only movies, or copy-paste memes about those, they of course don't know shit about that.
@@TheRezro Because the movies are the main source of material and they were straight crap. There is some good things about the new trilogy, but the negative greatly outweighs the positive.
@@Red_Eyed People like to bash on Disney Star Wars but the only mainstream product of theirs that’s wasn’t good was the sequels. People love TCW, Rebels, Fallen Order, Solo, Rogue One and the Mandalorian. Other than the sequels, Disney has done a decent job. I have a feeling that the High Republic will be shit but we have no way of knowing yet.
@@ImTheReverse I love all the side stories. Including Solo's movie even though it recieved a lot of hate. But I 100% blame Disney. They literally rushed all 3 just to rake in the cash.
To me, the High Republic sort of implies in it's title and by the visual depictions as a time period of haughty, self-righteous, elitist class ship... Which is kind of interesting and opens a world of possibilities. We know how a Darksider can be consumed by his or her own passions, essentially falling to their own ambitions and quest for accumulated power and political/social control, but what about the lightsiders?... Is it possible that a lightsider, who may deem him or herself to be a the epitome of virtuosity --- the pinnacle of righteousness, can be so jaded due their extreme piety that the may view themselves as above and beyond the average non-force sensitive person to the point of believing that it is their sworn duty to think for and govern ordinary citizens because they feel that they may be too ignorant or worlds to govern themselves?.. Think of the mad Jedi Jorrus C'baoth.. An astute and respected Master by profession who was assertive -- even aggressive at times, when he dealt with ordinary citizens of the Galaxy.. At times, he forcibly imposed his own judgements in rulings in matters of negotiation concerning regular people and was so arrogant and self righteous that he would force nudge people in his way as he walked. He basically took over the leadership role of command in the "Outbound Flight" project the moment they left space dock. He eventually turned to the Darkside in is actions as he would physically punish those who rejected his leadership. He truly believed that he was ORDAINED by the Force to take control of lesser beings simply because he was blessed power to do so.
that would be interesting.
The high republic could be about ego and pride, and the old republic about ideology and philosophy.
BUT
disney is dumb and they will make it all about diversity!! and haha funny group dynamics!!
Why are the Sith Species gone by the time of the clone wars did the Republic commit another bloody genocide like they did during the Great Hyperspace War?
preddy sure it was the jedi this time
They actually did. The Jedi, specifically.
@@kriegskorpsman6136
Hypocrites they are for sure.
@@PsyopXD the species, not the force cult
Thor's Hammer inbreeding with human sith, numerous wars with the Jedi, and constant infighting throughout generations and generations eventually phased their species out
I expect the Low Republic from the Disney.
*cough* the original trilogy *cough*
@@iamnotblackjack That's...funny.
the high republic has been great so far... it mentioned kolto and how the selkath are becoming pirates essentially because of this new thing called bacta thats becoming popular and I just loved that reference
Yeah I think it's a really good addition to starwars, it's a shame people think it's a replacement to the old republic when it isn't
@@blankblooo6372 its shame that folks are trying to twist the fact that there is diversity in a show into an agenda piece about politics exposing 🇺🇸 problems and reform. They will ignore the story quaility to bitch about groups that are showen.
@@blankblooo6372 it’s too… hippy dippy for me.
I like the war, the chaos.
It keeps things interesting.
The fact that the “Jedi starfighters” of the high Republic era require you to have some stupid ass “morality check” with your lightsaber whenever you want to use the ship’s weapons. Cringe.
@@PeterMuskrat6968 I mean, we always knew there was an era where there was peace and no clone wars. They made that era
@@PeterMuskrat6968the Jedi are litterally ment to be peacekeepers, in a time where there isn't war (and hasn't been one in nearly 800 years) it makes sense for their ships to have a lock of sorts on the weapon so that way they can try to actually make peace and be diplomatic before just killing someone. Also, there is large conflict in the high republic, specifically the Nihil threat (as well as 1 or 2 more)
The difference is the old republic is something I actually cared about and wanted to see more fleshed out on screen
You grew up with the Old Republic. This is new. Give it a chance.
@@darthbane5676 Yup. Fanboys also have uber-diarrhea when Old Republic was announced back in the day. Now those same people claim that they love Legends and Old Republic, instead that nonsense form sequels where people heal, steal bodies and force isn't black and white 0_0
@eXGn0cKS Gaming Statically most New Canon is good, but statistically most babies didn't read anything of that as they limit themselves to memes about few bad movies.
@eXGn0cKS Gaming Ok, you transparently are trolling now. Though for rest of the people, there is more way more good stuff like new Thrawn book, Fallen Order, Rebels cartoon, last season of Clone Wars, there is actually lot of good books and comic book stories and side movies mostly also were decent. It isn't just Mandalorian. But haters are obviously illiterate so they limit themselves to whining about mediocre sequels (there is a lot of worst stuff in Expanded Universe then those), but people praising superiority of Legends never actually read anything beside stuff carefully selected by Disney, if even that.
TheRezro show me a new disney character better than Kyle Katarn or Mara. Just one. The only good thing these new disney approved projects have done is recanonize a lot of the EU vehicles.
Difference between High and Old Republic is that old republic was written by original and creative people and High republic is being written by people that are well... High! Ou and one off those that write high republic said that he doesn't consider alien jedi, sith etc. as not diverse enough. Wth Disney!? What... The...
Hell...!?
Funny thing is that Yoda would be alive back then. Since he was over 900 years old when he died.
the old republic had better art, high does not Avar looks like a dude, supposed to be a female and has the powers of a goddess. The best of the bestest evar... and that pose that she was in. I think several artists need to learn some basic anatomy.
She’s KK self insert. That’s all.
@@arx3516 I really hope this is the case. It isn't original, but you can do interesting things with it.
I personally hated the Art Style in the MMO Old Republic it felt more modern in the designs less Retro futuristic like what Star Wars is meant to look like the Republic troopers were over designed etc. Knights of the old republic on the other hand I fucking adored it still felt like Star Wars but had its own look which was faithful the Neo Crusaders look fantastic and the overall designs just felt and looked amazing miles better than a The Old Republic MMO
I don't know if I trust this Lucasfilm team anymore. After all, they are the ones who care more about spreading their political agendas before a good story
Going woke and going broke
@Gaius Wyrden .....That's the point.
@Gaius Wyrden There were some decent characters in the sequels, but I can't say the same for the plot and story.
Blame disney
I think you meant to say Disney.
3 years later, we have Jedi Survivor doing High Republic references... Meanwhile Dave Filoni is doing Old Republic references in Ashoka.
And?
What's the different?
Old Republic: Wears Armor, humble and actually fighting for truth and Justice
High Republic: So snobby they wear gold fabrics and judging by what direction Disney going with the Jedi, they are hypocritical, corrupted and don't care about the galaxy and remain in active instead of peace keepers...
Honestly at least this looks faithful to the look of Star Wars unlike the Old Republic MMO which went for a more modern sci look focusing on over designed armour and technology. I fucking adored Knights of the old republic art style which was still faithful to that retro look but had its own style which was miles better than the Old Republic.
@@CaptainAmercia Im sorry did you just say knights had a better art style? my dude it was retrolookin because it was made in the late 90s and early 2000s. The MMO is amazing and the best star wars RPGs we've ever had
@@Spartan-vo5vg because it was created in 2003 that wasn’t why it had a retro artistic that’s just how Star Wars has always looked all Kotor did was create its own artistic in a new Era yet still continues to look like Star Wars. Unfortunately the Old Republic in a lot of elements followed this but it also has a lot of elements which just don’t look like they belong in Star Wars to overall armour design which look too much like modern technology or Sith armour which makes them look like an 80s hair Metal band to the ingame World of Warcraft artistic which does a lot of harm to the overall look (my biggest problem) Some elements I love and others I just don’t like. On the topic of Story I honestly enjoyed it but it’s no Kotor and many agree it completely butchered Darth Reven.
@@CaptainAmercia How was Revan butchered?
The old republic jedi were as straine dand corrupt as they come. They were fighting a war so their ideals slipped and they were constantly falling to the dark side.
Old Republic: Where All the Cool Shit went down.
High Republic: Sith in Hiding and the Jedi Stagnates.
The sith were in hiding in the prequels as well yet they were dope
@@apomtaylor8054 Yes but here's the thing. In the prequels, the sith actually did something. They duelled Jedi and commanded the separatists (through Dooku). The sith went into hiding 1000 years before episode 1, and the Jedi thought they were extinct during that time. So sith shouldn't be making an appearance.
Love the 70's workout music in the background, feeling motivated lol
9:38 guilded robes and ornate headwear.
Looks like you've got to update your outfit Alan, a beanie doesn't cut it as ornate headwear. Maybe a Elrond headband could suffice.
always thought it was weird that when showing the old Jedi they look like some lost Roman Legion that picked up laser swords along the way.
I came to watch this video for information, i open the comments, and all of a sudden a massive civil war starts between Legends fans and Canon fans, and it makes me sad, because we cant just be Star Wars fans
The nerd 🤓 in the video is at fault , all the sheep’s need to hate
@@musicmane4146 There are Star Wars fans and Disney fans. The two are mutually exclusive
Hm like its our fault canonfas who. Started agree it’s a stupid argument like a f***ing care of legends fans started the backlash.
Note that none of the comments in the top criticizing it has actually read them yet- they were all going off on conjecture. The first book came out at the start of 2021, so all these comments from a year ago hadn’t read it.
number 1: dinosaurs......
Not even their own unique alien creatures just space dinosaurs
Hey, my mount in swtor is a giant Raptor. So we also have dinosaurs.
@@vitorkennedy1862 hm does he look just like a raptor or more alien but similar
@Andoc
*tips Fodora
its because one if for gender diversity and one for sex diversity
*tips Fodora harder
theres a difference sir
*tips Fodora so hard it creates a simpularity
I have just started reading comics about the old republic and it’s so good! The mandalorians looked so good back then.
"What the different different?"
Me: One of them have the high ground.
You underestimate our power!
@@spaceknowmad9156 Don't try it!
They've gotta make the Old republic canon again!
In my heart Legends is my canon (with some non contradicting “canon” stuff) (no sequel trilogy)
sequel trilogy is good tho lmao
@@themikeyrussell69 nice troll but people don't fall for that nowadays.
@@darthgiorgi4990 😂😂😂
@@themikeyrussell69 That's a matter of opinion. From a visual standpoint the sequels are beautiful and stunning. Originality? I'll let Palpatine speak for himself once he rises from the dead again. The plot? Snoke shouldn't have been defeated in The Last Jedi, he should've been defeated in Rise of Skywalker. Rey being a nobody with nobody parents is much better than her being a Palpatine, or any other relation to any character besides Ki Adi Mundi since he was actually allowed to marry and have children.
@@themikeyrussell69 Im gonna dissapoint you, but sequel trilogy is really bad at some places (especially 2 last films, the first one atleast TRIES to be interesting and new, but Mary Sue Rey and other things ruin it). Although i must admit, the OST in the sequels were good. John Williams never dissapoints with OST. And, in MY opinion, Kylo Ren was one of the interesting new figures in sequels, but even this is not enough to just say "Sequel trilogy is good tho lmao". As the one who stated before, from visual standpoint sequels are really good: the first film combines animatronics and graphics, like the original trilogy does, and originality is objectively bad. Same with plot. But again, its only mine opinion
And yes, i love to speak in essay
Personal opinion: I feel like 200 years seems a bit too brief if they want to do a story like this. I remember in episode 1 the Jedi specifically said that they haven't encountered any Sith for thousands of years. The pirate and planet villain seems more appropriate for a one of story, not a full blown origin franchise.
If Lucasfilm wants to be liberal in terms of creating new lore, why not travel back for ten of thousands of years ago just when the Jedi/Jeddaii order was first formed and the Galaxy was still stuck with steam punk 17th century like vehicles and weapons like the Dawn of the Jedi book
I sort of see the Old Republic as the Middle Ages. It expands over a great period of time with constant wars and changes in power. The Mandalorian War is also very similar to the expansion of the Mongol Empire and the Great Viking Army. Similarly, the High Republic can be compared to the Renaissance. They both follow events and reforms that led to a more relatively peaceful and culture-focused era.
That's actually a really cool way of looking at it! I love it!
Someone with a thought process ? Interesting 🧐
And the clone wars being World War Two and the galactic civil war being like that Cold War
I'm probably going to be a little contrarian when I say I actually kinda like The High republic (So far at least) And while we aren't exactly getting the Old Republic I do hope that when they do get to that period of time we will get the stories we all know and love. Reven, Treya, Exile, Ectc.
Despite not being sure about this, I would love to see them incorporate Darth Zannah and Darth Cognus in this. Bane's apprentice and her apprentice were two very different Sith. Zannah was a beautiful, yet terribly powerful Sith Sorceress, and Cognus a scarred former assassin who could see the future. It would be interesting to see how they started to shape the Sith grand plan.
It's interesting.
Disney seems to promote High Republic as 'less dogmatic' and possibly more flexible period.
But according to all the logic: it should be least flexible, most dogmatic and by large a margin least 'progressive' period of time in Jedi history.
But I think the reason why they do it is that no one in Disney seems to agree with notion that overly 'plentiful' and easy times give birth to actual dogmatic, inflexible and at times oppressive ideology while the times of strife Old Republic represented had to be flexible to balance things out and assure Jedi survival during those times.
But hey: one of their main points was to bring dinosaurs... so... yeah: I'm not having high hopes for that Star Wars story.
The difference is of quality.
Ball Gang HOLY SHIT CAN YOU SEE THE FUTURE. Cause if you can’t I can’t imagine how you know the quality of a project before reading it
A man of culture, (gets shot down by a zaku)
Actually it is not. The difference is that fanboys are nowadays way more dumb.
We saw the writing staff and we already know this is gonna be shit ride
The Antichrisp what are you taking about dude Charles Soule at least has been absolutely killing it lately and he’s leading the project.
This is quality content: informative, neutral, and detailed yet still personal. I’ll watch more of your SW vids for sure.
Also - why did they put the “High Republic” only 200 years before the OT? I think it’s a cool concept to show the post-KOTOR golden age of the Jedi but like they have thousands of years to work with. Why keep the timeline so short?
Right,
Star Wars fans: WE WANT OLD REPUBLIC
Disney: high republic got that’s the same thing right I mean no darth revan but still the same right 😅
I hate to say it but your info about the Ruusan Reformation in relation to canon is incorrect.
In Legends the Galactic Republic was founded ca. 25 000 years BBY. After the end of the wars with Sith ca. 1000 BBY the Ruusan Reformation was implemented and the Galactic Republic continued on until Palpatine's Empire.
In Canon the government before 1000 BBY was called just Republic or later Old Republic. The Galactic Republic was founded ca. 1000 BBY and just like in Legends in lasted until Palpatine's Empire.
I think he just misspoke
So if I'm correct, the Old Republic takes place before the High Republic? And the High Republic takes place before Episode I, right?
What about the Mandalorian Wars? Didn’t they take place before the formation of the Old Republic? I’m legitimately asking. I don’t remember it’s been so long since I’ve read up or done any research on the topic.
Andrew Boccasino if I remember correctly, I believe the Mandalorian Wars happened during the Old Republic era. I’m only basing that off of what I remember from the first KOTOR game because that happens directly after the Mandalorian Wars and during the Old Republic Period. I think that’s correct anyway.
Yeah, I just finished my first play through of KOTOR, where Revan defeated the Mandalorians and is/was now leading the Sith in conquering the galaxy. I think it said 2 1/2 years after the Mandalorian wars in the loading screens.
The Mandalorian wars are 3976 bby. This is around 400 bby to 200 bby.
judging from obi wan kenobi's word a "hundred years treaty between the republic" it could be a possibility that the mandalorian wars started 500 years ago
On one hand the high rebellion bloc has almost no large scale interesting events and has not been fleshed out in legends so that’s good we will get more stuff for it, and it doesn’t contradict current legends most likely, however the reason there is nothing there for legends is because it’s an era with nothing really happening aka boring and also it’s Disney.
Even if it did contradict it doesnt matter because its legends and legends doesnt really matter
@Victor Nikolai tldr
@@MrEvilTag in canon nothing still happened and there is no sith so only politics is left and disney wants kids to watch and kids don't want politics
@@flamethekid im sure they will add sith in some capacity. There were sith mentioned before palpatine and his master
@@MrEvilTag the rule of 2 was already in place during the high republic
There is a twilek sith master who later became the master of Darth tenebrous during the time period but that's pretty much it
Old Republic: Before The Sith set a Galaxy wide grease fire.
High Republic: After they finished fixing and rebuilding every thing wrecked by said grease fire.
So this will be the “Frozen” version of Star Wars?
No
This is going to be Frozen Star Wars it’s going Sword and Stone Star Wars
At best..
How are 200 people able to click the video so quick
Here are the three biggest differences between the old republic and the high republic:
- Old republic - worked hard at explaining and detailing key features that we see in canon today (sith, mandalor, etc)
- Old Republic - is mentioned by name in canon on a number of occasions, most famous being Obi Wan in A New Hope
- Old republic - was cooler than the high republic.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk 🤣
Star Wars fans: Stop ruining star wars with this politically-correct garbage, listen, we wan...
Disney: What you said, a family friendly era? Here it is!
@Adrock 99 I don’t think that any of us wanted that shitt of a sequel trilogy that we got
@Gaius Wyrden that’s exactly the shitt that Disney has been throwing at us! We’re trying to make a point here.
Basically people try to give Disney constructive criticism because their movies suck booty cheeks and then they just say that “we hate women” or that we’re “racists” then they try to force in social politics and more “diversity” instead of focusing on good writing
Also who in the hell were you talking to when you said “so you really are anti feminist sexist” nobody in this comment section has mentioned anything regarding that in any way at all. You saying this is just implying that you think that we are “anti feminist sexists” by not liking the sequel trilogy.
You are truly a woke.
@Gaius Wyrden yea I noticed it was ironic which is why I got so pissed off originally
There is nothing really that isnt politically correct about what we want. Who says it has to have so many women. It is all just story writing and what fans want. Disney doesn't understand good writing. They can try to make what they have like other Disney shows politically correct. But they cant with star wars because it isnt truly theirs. You could literally tell a star wars fan to write the script and oversee the filming and it would be a huge success
I’m black
Was that funny enough?
I wish Disney would listen to the fans and give us Old Republic instead of constantly holding up the middle finger to fans.
but then they would give us old republic
and more fans would complain about them copying the eu
there is no way lucasfilms are able to give us something without being hated on for dumb reasons
@@revanchist2256 There's a misconception that Starwars fans are difficult to please. That's not true in the slightlest. Look at the mandalorian a small scale story that includes an original character that united the fan base. Same with the clone wars series. We're not unreasonable. Give us something good and we'll like it even if its somthing small like the mandalorian. I think everyone would love an Old republic film. This idea that starwars fans are difficult to please and all want different things is peddled by disney apologists who are pissed that fans hate the sequels.
Am I seriously the only one willing to give High Republic a chance? I love the Old Republic, but that story has already been explored a lot in Legends. High Republic takes place in a period that not even Legends explored much of. It's something different, something new. And I am really excited for it. It's not Old Republic, but it's not supposed to be. I'm personally really excited to see the new characters and conflicts that the High Republic could have to offer, as well as if there are any Sith working behind the scenes. I'm optimistic about it because a lot of the new canon is good. The comics, the novels, The Mandalorian, Rogue One, Rebels, etc. If you want Old Republic, you still have Old Republic. If you want new stories set in an unexplored era, you have High Republic.
Bro... It's fucking Star Wars fandom... they are dumb and can't read books.
Legends always went into the Sith vs Jedi, which becomes redundant after Revan and Bane since they became extinct (to the Jedi at least).
Personally, I kinda like the idea of exploring what the Golden Age of the Jedi was. Seeing them at their height so we can compare and contrast them in the Clone Wars.
Look at the whiteboard Lucasfilm had made and tell me that it is distinct.
It’s the exact same thing with these characters nobody is going to care about.
The saddest part is all of the new fans who don’t know or never will know about the Old Republic. And then the “fans” who will try and claim the High Republic is better than the old republic even though they never read or played anything related to the Old Republic.
I'm already running into that. Hell, I'm even starting to run into people who claim to be Star Wars fans but have never seen the prequels, let alone the OT.
I think they’re going to slowly slide into the Old Republic I mean think about it did we ever actually learn about the Galactic Republic in the EU.
You do know most SW fans only know the Old Republic from the fucking CGI trailers they put out for the game right? I can count on one hand the number of people who I've met who have actively played the MMO
And you haven't read a single High Republic book, so pot meet kettle. News flash: you're allowed to enjoy both.
Have you ever heard of having opinions?
My favourite youtuber
Son we dont need the Old Republic we have it at home.
The Old Republic at home:
High republic: dinosaurs
Old republic: WAR
The old republic is vastly superior. It gave us nuanced Sith and Jedi. It gave us Revan, Malgus, Kreia, Marr, Yuthara, and Valkorian. Lets not forget Batsila and Satele Shan and their very tight fitting robes. 8D
ALSO, it was the first bit of lore (for me) that introduced the Mandalorians as a weird cross between nomads and Spartans
The Old Republic led to the High Republic, the High Republic led to the prequels.
High Republic: More deserts, 1/10 characters alien. Old Republic: What we want
I want a trilogy or series
About Darth Revan
Lol come on Disney
make it so
Would you really want disney to have anything to do the legendary Revan?
@@krvproductions6642 of course not
But my dude ... what choices do we have. it's not like Disney is going to give up on star wars and let the writers do as they want any time soon ...or ever
..my point.. some bullshit Revan is better then no Revan
We at there mercy bro
@@judeblink6791 never compromise in the face of adversity
@@krvproductions6642 they'd give him pink hair and change his name to darth ebony darkness dementia revan way
@@joenathan8059 they wont do that cuz they literally can't
the old republic mmo gave us a male revan
so they'll have to go off that
I'm looking forward to hearing your takes on the books once they are released. Kudos
I love how when they announced it as a book everyone lost interest a lots of people were hoping it was a movie or video game..... Damn
The old republic was badass
Spoke your true mind in the last minute. Felt like an exasperated sigh for non Filoni/Favreau Disney Star Wars content.
I would like to see a story from the sith narrative as how they worked in secret to not be discovered while still gaining power over the 1000 ish years they were believed to be extinct. I'm not against stories that give humanity to evil. Hell even an alternate timeline where the empire won and the sith were then in charge would be kind of cool
One is made by Disney, and the other isn’t.... that said I really hope it has good storytelling and it adds properly to the lore this time.
Keep that hope for I doubt it will become a reality
True I really don’t trust Disney with the High Republic. They allow their political ideas to get in the way of good story telling. I’m actually glad they’re not touching the Old Republic because they would ruin it
@@dimond360_ I agree
You somewhat mention zayne carrick lol he did survive the pedwan massacre and actually become a knight late on after clearing his name for being framed
The Old Republic had really some badass moments and factions like the eternal empire.
The High Republic sounds like it was made by some drug addicts in Disney.
How so
@@apomtaylor8054 Oh, they have a pilot that is a literal ROCK!
@@billystokes3917 1 moment out of billion moments but continue
The old Republic: great characters, good story from any sides, awesooome cinematics
The high republic: oh look another unrelatable white chick as the main character
Bruh, I read the first book and expected it to be garbage. It's not. Not great either just meh. Avar Kriss (that white girl) isn't even the main character. I don't think there is a main character in the first book at least. Follows multiple perspectives
@@apomtaylor8054 Huh. Doesn't sound like my type of book (because I prefer it when the main character, the main threat, and what the main character has to do, is told to the reader in the first chapter).
@@billystokes3917 yea that's fair. It ticks all of your boxes except the single main character
@@billystokes3917 I would argue that the main character is the leader of the big bads ( trying not to spoil anything because its honestly a good read) I was riveted to the book the entire time bout to start number 2. Its a build up to the old republic 100% they mention the selkath turning into pirates due to this new thing called bacta replacing kolto.