@TayoAAdetola If you knew how the car was built, then you wouldn't be saying that. Both the Rs7 and Rs6 are also 5000ibs, rimac nevera is fully carbon fiber at 5,100ibs, panamera is at 5,300ibs, C63 at 4,750ibs nothing from now on will weigh less. He's a factual truth in order for the M5 to avoid being heavily taxed it has to increase its weight, so that price continues to stay reasonable. The platform also supports its fully EV variant, so the platform has to undergo chasis stiffening for its rigidity, which also adds weight.
M5CS might be a pure V8. I would do this if I'm BMW, I can then charge 50% more for the CS while making it a lot cheaper to produce, doubling the profit.
CS was a special edition for the f90 generation, there hasn't been or won't be another M5 CS. This generation M5 won't even have a Competition model in fact. It's all you see and you have to live with it, best they can do is maybe shed some weight off with the facelift and give it some power boost, but don't expect a lightweight pure V8 M5 when this car was SPECIFICALLY built with it's hybrid system and BMW is highly and I mean almost certainly unlikely to throw it away in favor of a standard V8
@@ii_dynasty They said that a Competition model was unlikely to come out, I'm guessing a ClubSport model is highly unlikely as well since this car is far too heavy to become a true "CS" or "CSI" or "CSL", although it's cool and fast it's just not light enough to be a ClubSport car
It’s a high-performance saloon car. Those who can afford it don’t care about the weight because no one is tracking big saloon cars. People who track their cars regularly buy the M2 or M4, but they still add a bunch of mods to make them track-suitable.
I truly hate those ‘M Performance’ decals. They look shockingly bad on an m135 let alone an M5. They look cheap and nasty and like some sort of aftermarket rubbish.
Everyone's talking about the weight - it's an AWD V8 PHEV. Guess what other car is also an AWD V8 PHEV? The Porsche Panamera Turbo E-Hybrid. They weigh quite similar, but the M5 is significantly cheaper, yet have very similar performance numbers.
@@tweed0929🤷🏻♂️ I’m not surprised. Why would an empty van be heavier than a V8 with a PHEV battery and AWD? But also, the Porsche did the Nurburgring in 7:24, and it weighs about the same. The engineering makes a difference.
@@AndreiGonzalesDesign can't beat laws of physics. Heavy weight leads to: 1. Worse brake performance. 2. Premature brake pads wear. 3. Premature tyre wear. 4. Faster wear of tarmac surface. 5. Worse cornering performance. 6. Devastating consequences for pedestrians in case of collision with pedestrians. Stop defending this ridiculous trend for making cars bigger, heavier and uglier. I do not give a flying eff for acceleration records. I do care about FUN at driving and hauling all that weight is no fun. Mercedes Sprinter is so much larger, yet 300 kg lighter than this so-called "sports" sedan. If you call eating as many hamburgers as you can under a minute a "sport", well then... more power to you. What has happened to BMW motto: Competition, Sport, Leichtbau?
It does improve the look, but still, the car just doesn't look right for some reason. For me, taillights are the biggest turn off, even tho they kinda messed up the headlights as well.
The good thing is they didnt have to think about downforce as the car weighs as much as a tank anyway, so they could just focus on making it look better
I can NOT purchase a car for over 100k and have a aliexpress reverse camera sticking out the boot. Mercedes has found a way to hide that for years now (behind the badge).
The fact that the predecessor will out perform the present generation speaks volume that bmw did not focus on improving the ///M5 DNA, heavier slower, cannot be better than lighter faster, and I don’t see that cow drifting to go anywhere near the Guinness world record.
Im convinced people hate on new stuff cuz they know they cant afford it. Then as time goes on and the prices go down all the sudden everyone loves it. This interior and design is amazing. Say what u want but this will 100% turn heads
*BMW* Director 1: "the cars are just getting heavier and heavier" Director 2: "yeah we need to do something about it" Director 1: "Lets make a PANZERKAMPFWAGON M5 AUSF G90!" Director "GREAT IDEA"
I can’t emphasize enough how much I hate this interior. Exterior, unlike M3, is decent even maybe good, but those new interiors ruin BMW as a brand for me. Audi or Porsche interiors are so much better.
Not so bad, but the only decent BMW of 2025 is the great 7 Series: huge 540 cm long and 155 high but classic and innovative, the better BMWs in design was work of Paul Bracq, Klaus Luthe and Ercole Spada, 1975 Series 3, 1981 Series 5, 1982 and 1990 Series 3, maybe the first X6 of 2009, then the abyss
Staff : Boss, Ive made the car slightly hideous. Boss : Why did you do that? Staff : So the customer will option our special part package to make the car truly beautiful. Boss : Oh, excellent job! You're getting a raise. 😉
Sorry but it looks horrible and extremely overstylized. The discreet sportiness and elegance of previous models has totally disappeared in actual BMWs.
God, this car is a travesty. BMW claims the carbon M Perf roof will save 66lbs on the M5... HOW? What the hell is the stock roof made of? A normal M Perf carbon roof saves like, 5lbs on an F87 M2Competition, I think even the roof on the giant new G87 is still only a few lbs savings. At least that's what they claimed about the carbon roof on my M2CS (either 5 or 7 lbs less than the standard roof). It might've been 7lbs, but still, not a savings that is strictly necessary or noticeable. BMW must be quoting 66lbs based on a car with a sunroof (?), otherwise I have no idea what they've done to make the standard M5 roof so insanely heavy. You shouldn't be able to save 66lbs from ANY roof, ffs. Yes, BMW is beyond good at hiding the weight while driving, but usually theyre only talking a difference of maybe a few hundred lbs between generations, not over 1000lbs. There's gonna be no hiding that on the new M5, hell, we already know it's not as fast as the previous gen. Even on the new M2 and M4, the 300+ increase for each car is very noticeable, especially at 9-10/10th driving on a track. Not that anyone will be tracking this M5, but people definitely tracked the previous models. I used to have an E39 M5, back when they were still only a few yrs old, and yeah it was heavy compared to others at the time, but by maybe a few 100lbs, and that didnt stop it from being a blast on track (though upgraded brakes were basically mandatory on all M cars back then). There's also no excuse for BMW's ,"this is the best we could do"-attitude towards the new M5. It's just such *lazy* engineering. They could've done something interesting like the new Carrera GTS (not necessarily the same thing, but surely there was a more interesting solution than what we got), but no, instead they just plopped the XM plug-in hybrid system to a sedan and basically called it a day. I seriously hate this current era of cars. It's utterly depressing. I've always planned on keeping my 6spd M2CS since new and I've had my 993 for years, but you always plan on eventually getting something new. Not in this era, though. I can't see any cars that properly pique my interest, outside of things like GT3's. This level of divisiveness cannot be sustainable for the auto industry, every marquee is just doing goofy shit. They're either all-in on EV, or they're playing it like BMW and trying to have a foot in each part of the market, which only serves to dilute the hell out of the brand. Porsche will be the same if they go thru with essentially making everything EV except for the 911. These regulations are killing the industry, and it's not like there's some other industry to replace automotive. The regulations need to move elsewhere, forcing everyone into EV and hybrid crap isn't *really* making much of a dent in any kind of emissions, but it IS forcing cars to become worse and more expensive simultaneously.
Haters won’t like my comment, but this M5 is the best-looking car BMW has made. It’s funny how social media haters cry about BMW losing its DNA. What’s ironic is that this model shares the DNA of previous models: the front has F10 DNA, and the side profile shares E60 lines, but they are still not happy, and now trolls are complaining about the car’s weight as if it matters to them while they ride public transport or drive some lemon E81 118d 😅
no, it doesn’t look good, same as m2… they sell m performance parts and only thing that you get is black plastic and it looks 3x worse than already catastrophic design
Only 2445kg with lightweight parts :O
Ha ha ha.
2435kg without.
It's almost like every new hybrid performance car near this class weighs that much even porsche.
@@ii_dynastynot the case this shit is poorly engineered. Weighs more than a Ford Raptor.💀
@TayoAAdetola If you knew how the car was built, then you wouldn't be saying that. Both the Rs7 and Rs6 are also 5000ibs, rimac nevera is fully carbon fiber at 5,100ibs, panamera is at 5,300ibs, C63 at 4,750ibs nothing from now on will weigh less.
He's a factual truth in order for the M5 to avoid being heavily taxed it has to increase its weight, so that price continues to stay reasonable. The platform also supports its fully EV variant, so the platform has to undergo chasis stiffening for its rigidity, which also adds weight.
This is like having a gym next to a buffet
Like having a buffet and skipping the salad
This is like a fat runner buying extralight shorts
@@docmccoy9813tbh this m5 is like that one lineman on a football (American) that knows how to run 😂
The old one is just better in every way.
F90 prices after the G90 📈📈📈
M5 has went type 1 & type 2 diabetic
Does it look better?
It does
Does the car look good?
No, still horrendous
Renault owner said so 🥴
Not hard to improve on shit lol
If only the M5 didn’t weigh similar to a Boeing 747 😢
Gotta pray they throw a LOT of kg’s out for the CS
M5CS might be a pure V8. I would do this if I'm BMW, I can then charge 50% more for the CS while making it a lot cheaper to produce, doubling the profit.
CS was a special edition for the f90 generation, there hasn't been or won't be another M5 CS. This generation M5 won't even have a Competition model in fact. It's all you see and you have to live with it, best they can do is maybe shed some weight off with the facelift and give it some power boost, but don't expect a lightweight pure V8 M5 when this car was SPECIFICALLY built with it's hybrid system and BMW is highly and I mean almost certainly unlikely to throw it away in favor of a standard V8
@@waserdert6259 they didn't say no to a cs.
@@ii_dynasty They said that a Competition model was unlikely to come out, I'm guessing a ClubSport model is highly unlikely as well since this car is far too heavy to become a true "CS" or "CSI" or "CSL", although it's cool and fast it's just not light enough to be a ClubSport car
Nothing can excuse that 2500kg weight
That's 3 F1s, and those are quite fat too
The fact you cant feel it.
It’s a high-performance saloon car. Those who can afford it don’t care about the weight because no one is tracking big saloon cars. People who track their cars regularly buy the M2 or M4, but they still add a bunch of mods to make them track-suitable.
A decal reading "performance" is quite funny in itself.
props to bembli for looking at the positives...😂😂
BMW M5XL
If the weight would be under 2 Tons the car would a real banger!
I bet it drive good for the mass but the direction is clearly the wrong.
2 tons is already a lot
It will performed like a four-door GTR.
I truly hate those ‘M Performance’ decals. They look shockingly bad on an m135 let alone an M5. They look cheap and nasty and like some sort of aftermarket rubbish.
Everyone's talking about the weight - it's an AWD V8 PHEV. Guess what other car is also an AWD V8 PHEV? The Porsche Panamera Turbo E-Hybrid. They weigh quite similar, but the M5 is significantly cheaper, yet have very similar performance numbers.
A lot of cry babies yes
It is not about the numbers. The driving dynamics and the sheer lack of necessity and the frank absurdity of this weight
C'mon! What are you droning on about? This M5 is heavier than Mercedes Sprinter! A VAN!
@@tweed0929🤷🏻♂️ I’m not surprised. Why would an empty van be heavier than a V8 with a PHEV battery and AWD? But also, the Porsche did the Nurburgring in 7:24, and it weighs about the same. The engineering makes a difference.
@@AndreiGonzalesDesign can't beat laws of physics. Heavy weight leads to:
1. Worse brake performance.
2. Premature brake pads wear.
3. Premature tyre wear.
4. Faster wear of tarmac surface.
5. Worse cornering performance.
6. Devastating consequences for pedestrians in case of collision with pedestrians.
Stop defending this ridiculous trend for making cars bigger, heavier and uglier. I do not give a flying eff for acceleration records. I do care about FUN at driving and hauling all that weight is no fun. Mercedes Sprinter is so much larger, yet 300 kg lighter than this so-called "sports" sedan. If you call eating as many hamburgers as you can under a minute a "sport", well then... more power to you.
What has happened to BMW motto: Competition, Sport, Leichtbau?
I'm surprised you haven't done a video on the Cadillac Sollei concept.
It does improve the look, but still, the car just doesn't look right for some reason. For me, taillights are the biggest turn off, even tho they kinda messed up the headlights as well.
front too... it is a mess!
same here as a G30 owner, at this point the 7 series look way nicer 'cause that look has grown on me for some reason
The heaviest matter in the Universe.
[Gojira riff starts playing]
We had a time where we thought the Nissan GTR was way too heavy. Look at where we are now.
The good thing is they didnt have to think about downforce as the car weighs as much as a tank anyway, so they could just focus on making it look better
The tail lights look like a new camry
Not a soul would mistake this for a camery. If anything other brands are copying bmw.
Cant wait for the 8 minute nurburgring lap
I can NOT purchase a car for over 100k and have a aliexpress reverse camera sticking out the boot. Mercedes has found a way to hide that for years now (behind the badge).
Yh behind the badge with full of plastic interior
The fact that the predecessor will out perform the present generation speaks volume that bmw did not focus on improving the ///M5 DNA, heavier slower, cannot be better than lighter faster, and I don’t see that cow drifting to go anywhere near the Guinness world record.
I think it will be my next car. M performance part included. I love it. Not sure if I should go Grey or White.
Looks cool with the parts and the thick sidewall tyres but just can't escape the weight of this thing
I give up on these new BMW designs man😢
Im convinced people hate on new stuff cuz they know they cant afford it. Then as time goes on and the prices go down all the sudden everyone loves it. This interior and design is amazing. Say what u want but this will 100% turn heads
With the Diffuser the exhaust tips look too small, you would need some different ones to make it look better
The equivalent of having nikocado wearing dry fit and some running shoes
Understand what you’re saying about the graphic, however it’s way too ‘AMG’
Looks wise , it gives e92 m3 . It will grow on you
Smart nose is better than the past car
*BMW*
Director 1: "the cars are just getting heavier and heavier"
Director 2: "yeah we need to do something about it"
Director 1: "Lets make a PANZERKAMPFWAGON M5 AUSF G90!"
Director "GREAT IDEA"
black wheels are the best u can put on a car, any other color looks trash. Except for like some hyper cars where it actually looks luxury
Putting "lightweight parts" on this thing is like those people who order a diet coke with their huge fast food order.
The rear light clearly shows Genesis.
0:17 Tell me that's photoshopped
Yeah It looks 🔥
I can’t emphasize enough how much I hate this interior. Exterior, unlike M3, is decent even maybe good, but those new interiors ruin BMW as a brand for me. Audi or Porsche interiors are so much better.
Audi full screen dashboard? That resemblance mercedes dash.
What it should have had was a good designer. Instead they got someone who tries to reinvent the wheel
Not so bad, but the only decent BMW of 2025 is the great 7 Series: huge 540 cm long and 155 high but classic and innovative, the better BMWs in design was work of Paul Bracq, Klaus Luthe and Ercole Spada, 1975 Series 3, 1981 Series 5, 1982 and 1990 Series 3, maybe the first X6 of 2009, then the abyss
Staff : Boss, Ive made the car slightly hideous.
Boss : Why did you do that?
Staff : So the customer will option our special part package to make the car truly beautiful.
Boss : Oh, excellent job! You're getting a raise.
😉
For once, I actually like a new bmw
What's with the slick transitions? I like your videos; hate those lightning transitions.👍👎
Additional weight for the new M5...
No, it should have had a designer
M performance parts: we added more weight to the chevy taho... I mean m5
I don't see anyone with taste buying that car
Sorry but it looks horrible and extremely overstylized. The discreet sportiness and elegance of previous models has totally disappeared in actual BMWs.
The rear lights don’t look like bmw car.
It's too late to add aggressiveness. Stop trying to cover it up
What a joke buying expensive carbon fiber parts for a 2.5 ton car.
Rimac nevera weighs 5,100ibs while being fully carbon fiber
clever move from BMW
Make the base M5 fugly and offer a less ugly and more expensive performance pack.
Well played BMW, well played.
that doesn't change anything, i still hate new bmw designs
BMW M5 Camry Truck
Kinda looks like a Toyota Camry
They should remove all the unnecessary hybrid & electronic tech for the CS & bring the weight below 2000kgs to make BMW fanboys drool again!
i am sorry but i do not like where BMW is heading from a design stand point
the back end looks like a Mercedes , the front is just plastic
God, this car is a travesty. BMW claims the carbon M Perf roof will save 66lbs on the M5... HOW? What the hell is the stock roof made of?
A normal M Perf carbon roof saves like, 5lbs on an F87 M2Competition, I think even the roof on the giant new G87 is still only a few lbs savings.
At least that's what they claimed about the carbon roof on my M2CS (either 5 or 7 lbs less than the standard roof). It might've been 7lbs, but still, not a savings that is strictly necessary or noticeable.
BMW must be quoting 66lbs based on a car with a sunroof (?), otherwise I have no idea what they've done to make the standard M5 roof so insanely heavy.
You shouldn't be able to save 66lbs from ANY roof, ffs.
Yes, BMW is beyond good at hiding the weight while driving, but usually theyre only talking a difference of maybe a few hundred lbs between generations, not over 1000lbs. There's gonna be no hiding that on the new M5, hell, we already know it's not as fast as the previous gen.
Even on the new M2 and M4, the 300+ increase for each car is very noticeable, especially at 9-10/10th driving on a track. Not that anyone will be tracking this M5, but people definitely tracked the previous models. I used to have an E39 M5, back when they were still only a few yrs old, and yeah it was heavy compared to others at the time, but by maybe a few 100lbs, and that didnt stop it from being a blast on track (though upgraded brakes were basically mandatory on all M cars back then).
There's also no excuse for BMW's ,"this is the best we could do"-attitude towards the new M5. It's just such *lazy* engineering. They could've done something interesting like the new Carrera GTS (not necessarily the same thing, but surely there was a more interesting solution than what we got), but no, instead they just plopped the XM plug-in hybrid system to a sedan and basically called it a day.
I seriously hate this current era of cars. It's utterly depressing.
I've always planned on keeping my 6spd M2CS since new and I've had my 993 for years, but you always plan on eventually getting something new. Not in this era, though. I can't see any cars that properly pique my interest, outside of things like GT3's.
This level of divisiveness cannot be sustainable for the auto industry, every marquee is just doing goofy shit. They're either all-in on EV, or they're playing it like BMW and trying to have a foot in each part of the market, which only serves to dilute the hell out of the brand. Porsche will be the same if they go thru with essentially making everything EV except for the 911.
These regulations are killing the industry, and it's not like there's some other industry to replace automotive.
The regulations need to move elsewhere, forcing everyone into EV and hybrid crap isn't *really* making much of a dent in any kind of emissions, but it IS forcing cars to become worse and more expensive simultaneously.
Perfect example of BMW being the cure and the cause of their crazy designs
Verry aggressive 😅
NiC3
Haters won’t like my comment, but this M5 is the best-looking car BMW has made. It’s funny how social media haters cry about BMW losing its DNA. What’s ironic is that this model shares the DNA of previous models: the front has F10 DNA, and the side profile shares E60 lines, but they are still not happy, and now trolls are complaining about the car’s weight as if it matters to them while they ride public transport or drive some lemon E81 118d 😅
The grille is ugly and it looks too bulky and the silhouette isnt as good as before ..bit I think it still think it looks good.
Too bad its 2500kg
Don't like it... side only works for White Car
Great video, but still the worst 5 series ever!
it looks better but still shit from almost any angle
Batteri delete it, and you will be able to take any corner without smacking into a tree.
But we all saw it crushing nurburgring corners right?
@@ii_dynasty ig its bc all the weight is at the bottom of the car.
It weighs about the same as a female African elephant
no, it doesn’t look good, same as m2… they sell m performance parts and only thing that you get is black plastic and it looks 3x worse than already catastrophic design
Adro M2.
Looks like a worse, heavy commodore.
C'mon, these parts sucks. Looks so chinese (in the bad way) with them
BMW’s design direction is dogshit
Your design taste is awful as always
anyways... BMW desigh is a failure