HOLD your cash. For the moment. "you ain't seen nothing yet". A LOT of people are going to succumb to a "safe and effective", the PROOF of this is already out (but censored). Prices of MANY things are going to completely CRASH. Deceased estate sales will be a dime a dozen.
@@OhSoddit Our modern leaders are incompetent and trust in fables. Little understanding and ignorant. Love to party hard though and be cool. Example is the belief that Ukraine was an innocent victim and Russia was going to conquer the world. Craziness and fear. So, the Western world spread the fear and bankrupted ourselves spending into oblivion and printing money causing inflation. This is after the government-created in a lab COVID war causing massive disruptions and expense. All our own self doing.
It is a bit shocking when I surf auto trader, I see the rock bottom new bikes, then there are the pre regs, then the less than 1 year old ones and think, wow, had I bought that new, I’d have lost a few grand and some on it! I’d hate to think the poor blighters who buy on finance! I was looking at a new Rocket R3, £24k new, too much tbh… saw a year old one with 3k on the clock and was reduced to £15k. I’m going to hold back now until late Jan, Feb and hit the dealers for a pre reg or nearly new s/h and see what deal I can get. I’m a fair weather rider so a bit of a wuss so my two wheels will go into hibernation soon. Good vid 👍
I've been looking to change my 2023 GoldStar for some time now but visiting various dealer's they want to sell you a brand new bike at inflated prices and give you bugger all in p/ex that is even if they are interested at all. Honda wanted to sell me a 9 grand bike and offered me 2600, my ex BSA dealer wasn't interested and the new one couldn't even bother to reply, the RE dealer wasn't interested in a BSA neither were the Superbike factory. Eventually I did find a dealer, Keith Dixon who was interested in doing a deal and I've now just bought a Kawasaki Eliminator SE 500. Some dealers just sit on their hands and others try much harder to get your business.
Exactly 100% true. There's no such thing as bikes plummeting in price. Dealers are winning in selling new & used bikes...big profits made. Bugger all offered in part exchanges.
thanks for the video and as someone who Hates selling a bike i always set the selling price fair as i can but it will Always be the final price without negotiations . it makes me sick when people make me some mental offer and they havent even seen the bike in the flesh so to speak but i guess if you are desperate to sell thats another story but for me i would sit on it until the deserving new owner comes along who wants the bike and is willing to pay a realistic price. Yes as for Dealers they make more on a used bike than a New one my 2019 CB300 had £1200 added to the price when i traded in for a 2019 CB500X
Secondhand Thunderbird prices haven't moved. There is nothing unusual about 5k for an early one. In fact that's a liitle higher than a year or two ago when they were down to just over £4k. Cruiser prices seem stronger than everything else in the market.
I saw this coming early this year. I sold both bikes and 2 scooters and my 2018 car. I ve kept my 17 yr old car. Minimal sensors, no toys. Loads spares available especially in EU on e bay that seems to have many scrapyards compared to the UK demise of them
I agree Volt - daily, i have a 2011 Merc and it just runs and does not start complaining when someone farts in the cabin 😆. Too much tech brings the whole system down
In my experience of searching for a good used bike this past month, prices haven't dropped across the board at all. There's always bikes that are advertised at lower prices than the majority of the same, just like anything. The particular bikes (two different models) I'm looking for haven't altered in price at all, bar the odd one. As for encouraging buyers to go in offering less is something not wanted by the very same folk, who want to sell...think about it. Don't presume that a seller WILL sell for the prices you say because you really don't know that as fact. In around 30 bikes I've owned over as many years, I've sold everyone (bar one) privately & have never taken a reduced offer. Always stuck to the price I've been asking, it's called having confidence in what you're selling & the right buyer who wants the bike for the right reasons, not just because they want the satisfaction of bidding the seller down. Sorry, but overall, I don't agree with what you're saying in this video. P.s Please show the £1,000 / £1,200 bike that was previously advertised at £4,000
i haven't the experience you have selling them, but as a matter of interest, i've just done a little googling around on my own bike and found pretty much the same. I reckon the best way to stay a 'winner' is to take your time and find a bike you love and keep it, that way you aint got the hassle or worry, or feel like you've had your pants pulled down haha. GL
Same thing happening in Australia , wonder how much impact the cheaper Chinese new bikes are having on those trying to sell Japanese and Euro bikes on the used market ? It’s amazing how people dismiss used bikes that have over 10000kms , despite showing service history , and barely a scratch . Have done 15000kms on my 23 model Versys 650 , it still feels like brand new , but can’t sell it for $8500 , despite new ones still getting sold for $13600 ride-away . Get offered $7000 to $8000 on a trade depending on how expensive the other bike is . Rode the Versys 200km two days ago ..asked myself what bike is better…under $15000 here in Oz. Couldn’t answer that question .
If I walk into a dealer and the bike has over 20K miles, they suck in with a sharp breath preparing you for a low ball number. Maybe the case in the 1980's but today, the engines go forever as long as they are looked after. The market is changing everywhere I feel
Hilarious! Some people are advertising their bikes at great prices, well researched and priced to sell. Your first comment on price is to knock off 10%, maybe more, without even seeing it, call it a bargain and infer that the owner has a financial reason for selling. You won't be buying a bike from me any time soon!
Could the reason be ULEZ and other clean air zones rather than anything to do with Covid or the cost-of-living crisis (which was a result of the invasion of Ukraine, not Covid)? The places where people live who have the most money are precisely these zones, or at least cities with them at the centre, such as Birmingham and Bath, and a bike with pre Euro 3 emissions ratings that you won't be able to take into a major city, if you live near one, will obviously be worth less than one you can. There's also the likelihood that clean-air restrictions will get tighter, so a zone that requires Euro 3 today will require Euro 4 or 5 tomorrow. This is what happened with the London zone; initially it was Euro 4 if I remember correctly; now it's Euro 6 for diesel and Euro 4 for petrol cars and 3 for bikes. On the other hand, BSA prices have dropped like a stone because they're unreliable and poorly supported.
It's a tough time to sell motorcycles what with the economic climate and the fact the weather this year(and last!) hasn't been great and we are approaching winter. I do really feel for people who have to sell to pay bills. Covid created a false valuation of what bikes were worth, and as you say, this is now stabilising. I've never understood the classic bike market and I'm old enough to remember these machines when they were new, some were good in their day but things have moved on and I certainly wouldnt pay the price that is asked for them. This year has seen many bike dealerships close, and I suspect more will close in the coming months
You are right Mr Hackenbacker 👍. Everyone is worrying about the future financial situation. Classic bikes are a strange thing. Nostalgia is worth loads of money 😆. Some classics really are classics but most are just old bikes and should be priced as such 😆.
aye, so true, give me a new one any day. i loved all the cortina's i had in the 70's and 80's, but would i swap one for my focus now, not a chance, i'll keep the memory a happier one that it possibly was haha.
This does the motorcycle industry no end of harm. The word to look for is "depreciation" who the hell is going to buy a new machine. Ever! Unsellable sports bikes, well no wonder when you look at the state of the roads in the UK.
Hi Gary, not sure it's harm, but the last couple of years have just gone crazy. Now is the time that bikes return to their true value in an economy that is simply readjusting itself - supply and demand I guess
Just sold a Himalayan for what I paid for it and picked up a new one at an excellent price, not haggling too hard as I want the dealer to be around. If we all encourage a race to the bottom there will be nothing left of an industry...
wow, someone who's a realist, that's a refreshing change 😀, and great to hear a happy ending. I did the same with my car a year ago, only 'lost' £300 when i sold it after having it 4 years, then got a brilliant deal on another - felt great to be a winner for once.
that's great Steve, well done. All about supply and demand and this shapes the values in and out. Times change and the industry has always been accustomed to change which to be fair, is a good thing. I love the Hyma, great bike ❤
@@Bob-ts2tu It was a good deal all round, as good as new very low miles, serviced used bike, easy to retail and a great new bike, great dealer too. Will buy another off them soon.
@@bankruptpensioner It is a great bike. I grew up around the motor trade in the 70's with the first Honda dealer in the UK, so have seen a few changes, I hope low engine and affordable bikes can encourage people to take up as practical trabnsport, but I feel we need to lobby government more to encourage this...
I was looking at the 502x and 702x they are apparently really top heavy and don't have a lot of tourqe that and being Chinese the parts arent really available if you aren't bothered about speed you would be better off with a Royal Enfield or a BWM GS 700/750 the 700 isn't far off the Benelli and you get BMW build quality and a good parts network
@@baddmint Apparently? So you haven't ridden them. All parts are available. My brother has a 2021 502x in Portugal and he's toured all round Europe on it. Loves it, as I did when using it for a month in the summer. Its got all needed. The best selling bike in Italy and very popular all over Europe.
@@baddmint I live in Italy and the best-selling larger capacity motorcycle is the BENELLI 502. Highly reliable, highly thought of. Perhaps it would be advisable to actually ride one before commenting and using the word "apparently" By the way, if there are any support problems in the UK they are entirely down to the Importer (MOTO GB) not the BENELLI brand itself.
@bankruptpensioner I thought so ,I live not far from that area now I'm in Shifnal ,I've only found your chanel today so I've been binge watching your vids some good stuff, keep it up mate
Maybe it’s an indication of global population decline? Suppose there are 2 older guys that has decided to stop riding, but only 1 youth interested in buying a motorcycle , then prices will drop. Look at age of those who are riding, what is the mean average?
Good point Jonas, Every year the riding population is dropping. And then comes the time to sell the bike that's been in the garage for a couple of years where the seller just needs to get rid of the bike. Good point 👍
Sorry Richard, i cant fully get on board with you here, there's always good bargains to be had no matter what and whenever, & still great deals to be done on brand new bikes if you are a bit canny, in fact when i bought my new 2024 bike end jan for 1st march reg, it really didnt make a great deal of sense to buy 2nd hand as i got a great deal, and i know if i sell it i'll lose loads, but i expect to keep it for quite a while, and as a virgin purchase i know the history and the fact it's well run in and looked after. for example the over 4 year old cb650r you quote and expect to get for 5k is about 7.9k dealer list, which you can get cheaper im sure with 2 years warranty, plus whatever extras you negotiate, so even though i'm not particularly brewstered, id personally buy new if i was expecting to keep it. anyhow, thanks for the thoughts and GL
Dealers have only bought bikes in extremely cheap, be in oughtright or part exchanges. They will always make huge profits on them, much more than new bikes. Friend part exchanged his bike recently & was offered £1,800. The dealer has it for sale for £3,499. Go figure
@@keepitreal1547 Bikes like Suzuki GS650E, Honda CB400N, Honda CB900F2, all these kind of bikes that were great, but not iconic such as the RD500LC, RG500, RD350LC etc
Hi Richard, I have seen a bike for £16,995, it's a 2018 model and I was wandering what do you would consider to be a fair price for this bike? The milage is just over 2000 miles with 2 owners from new and with prechecks done, everything checks out and no faults found. The bike is in good condition and comes with a new MOT and service prior to delivery/collection.
Hard to judge on the Can Am's. My rule is 20% off from year one (on the price in 2018). Then 20% for each year after that. Now the market is starting to stabilise, this is a good rule of thumb but the UK is a strange place when it comes to this calculation. To add further, the calculation absoloutly applies if there is no warranty with the bike. Thoughts?
Hi Richard., The strangest thing happened tonight. I went to my side ledger to whom I subscribed to & went to your you tube name only to find this video was released a couple of days ago. The problem is that although I am subscribed to your channel , I am not receiving them. Somebody or something is blocking them from coming to my computer., What duo you think?
You are Totaly Missing Reality. When you go and look at some of " Jewels " they are " Junk" and you then know why it was advertised for months. THERE IS NO MARKET FOR ALL THESE BIKES. They are NOT BARGAINS. Most of them are SOUR LEMONS. Every dealer is full of unsold bikes been there up a year eating money .QED.
Totally agree with you on this. 90% of bikes for sale especially on fb marketplace are being sold as they are lemons. No one selling a bike writes the advert saying the bike is a complete shed but I want top dollar.
Rubbish! Bikes are so well made these days virtually every low to medium mileage model will be fine. Lack of sales down to cost of living crisis not the condition of the bikes.
@@trailingarm63 haven’t got a clue what your on about. No one said anything about lack of sales being down to condition. My self and i believe the comment above said that the bikes that are getting reduced in price and on market place for weeks on end is most probably down to the fact they are not very well looked after machines and people who are interested go to look at them and see for themselves that it is not as good as described
Hey Lee, good to hear from you and thanks for asking. Very well actually. It's now been some 8 weeks since on the medication and all the ailments that had been creeping up on me over the years, which I thought was just part of getting old, are slowly disappearing. I feel so much better which is great. I need to do an update video on this subject 😆. Thanks for asking Lee, much appreciated 👍
@@bankruptpensioner sounds like you are on track to reversing your diabetes.. keep up the good work and yes looking forward to your diabetes update video. Maybe you can start a new channel on your diabetes journey I'd be interested in watching it..
Some are expecting to get unrealistic trade in values for their bikes. That included me until i found a dealer willing to offer me what i wanted.
Patience is the art. At some point, you will get a price that one is happy with 👍
HOLD your cash. For the moment.
"you ain't seen nothing yet".
A LOT of people are going to succumb to a "safe and effective", the PROOF of this is already out (but censored).
Prices of MANY things are going to completely CRASH. Deceased estate sales will be a dime a dozen.
I think you are right. This is just the begining. I shall be keeping an eye on the market and sharing in future videos 👍
@@OhSoddit Our modern leaders are incompetent and trust in fables. Little understanding and ignorant. Love to party hard though and be cool.
Example is the belief that Ukraine was an innocent victim and Russia was going to conquer the world. Craziness and fear.
So, the Western world spread the fear and bankrupted ourselves spending into oblivion and printing money causing inflation. This is after the government-created in a lab COVID war causing massive disruptions and expense. All our own self doing.
It is a bit shocking when I surf auto trader, I see the rock bottom new bikes, then there are the pre regs, then the less than 1 year old ones and think, wow, had I bought that new, I’d have lost a few grand and some on it! I’d hate to think the poor blighters who buy on finance! I was looking at a new Rocket R3, £24k new, too much tbh… saw a year old one with 3k on the clock and was reduced to £15k.
I’m going to hold back now until late Jan, Feb and hit the dealers for a pre reg or nearly new s/h and see what deal I can get. I’m a fair weather rider so a bit of a wuss so my two wheels will go into hibernation soon. Good vid 👍
I've been looking to change my 2023 GoldStar for some time now but visiting various dealer's they want to sell you a brand new bike at inflated prices and give you bugger all in p/ex that is even if they are interested at all. Honda wanted to sell me a 9 grand bike and offered me 2600, my ex BSA dealer wasn't interested and the new one couldn't even bother to reply, the RE dealer wasn't interested in a BSA neither were the Superbike factory. Eventually I did find a dealer, Keith Dixon who was interested in doing a deal and I've now just bought a Kawasaki Eliminator SE 500. Some dealers just sit on their hands and others try much harder to get your business.
Exactly 100% true.
There's no such thing as bikes plummeting in price. Dealers are winning in selling new & used bikes...big profits made.
Bugger all offered in part exchanges.
BSA prices have dropped like a stone.
@@fasthracing
What country?
@@keepitreal1547 UK
@@fasthracing
Well they're getting bad press, rightly or wrongly, I don't know as I don't own one.
thanks for the video and as someone who Hates selling a bike i always set the selling price fair as i can but it will Always be the final price without negotiations .
it makes me sick when people make me some mental offer and they havent even seen the bike in the flesh so to speak but i guess if you are desperate to sell thats another story but for me i would sit on it until the deserving new owner comes along who wants the bike and is willing to pay a realistic price.
Yes as for Dealers they make more on a used bike than a New one
my 2019 CB300 had £1200 added to the price when i traded in for a 2019 CB500X
Secondhand Thunderbird prices haven't moved. There is nothing unusual about 5k for an early one. In fact that's a liitle higher than a year or two ago when they were down to just over £4k. Cruiser prices seem stronger than everything else in the market.
I saw this coming early this year. I sold both bikes and 2 scooters and my 2018 car. I ve kept my 17 yr old car. Minimal sensors, no toys. Loads spares available especially in EU on e bay that seems to have many scrapyards compared to the UK demise of them
I agree Volt - daily, i have a 2011 Merc and it just runs and does not start complaining when someone farts in the cabin 😆. Too much tech brings the whole system down
In my experience of searching for a good used bike this past month, prices haven't dropped across the board at all.
There's always bikes that are advertised at lower prices than the majority of the same, just like anything.
The particular bikes (two different models) I'm looking for haven't altered in price at all, bar the odd one.
As for encouraging buyers to go in offering less is something not wanted by the very same folk, who want to sell...think about it. Don't presume that a seller WILL sell for the prices you say because you really don't know that as fact.
In around 30 bikes I've owned over as many years, I've sold everyone (bar one) privately & have never taken a reduced offer.
Always stuck to the price I've been asking, it's called having confidence in what you're selling & the right buyer who wants the bike for the right reasons, not just because they want the satisfaction of bidding the seller down.
Sorry, but overall, I don't agree with what you're saying in this video.
P.s
Please show the £1,000 / £1,200 bike that was previously advertised at £4,000
i haven't the experience you have selling them, but as a matter of interest, i've just done a little googling around on my own bike and found pretty much the same. I reckon the best way to stay a 'winner' is to take your time and find a bike you love and keep it, that way you aint got the hassle or worry, or feel like you've had your pants pulled down haha. GL
It's the middle of October.... end of the 'biking season' (according to some) traditionally the time to bag a bargain.
Agree 👍
Same thing happening in Australia , wonder how much impact the cheaper Chinese new bikes are having on those trying to sell Japanese and Euro bikes on the used market ?
It’s amazing how people dismiss used bikes that have over 10000kms , despite showing service history , and barely a scratch .
Have done 15000kms on my 23 model Versys 650 , it still feels like brand new , but can’t sell it for $8500 , despite new ones still getting sold for $13600 ride-away .
Get offered $7000 to $8000 on a trade depending on how expensive the other bike is .
Rode the Versys 200km two days ago ..asked myself what bike is better…under $15000 here in Oz.
Couldn’t answer that question .
If I walk into a dealer and the bike has over 20K miles, they suck in with a sharp breath preparing you for a low ball number. Maybe the case in the 1980's but today, the engines go forever as long as they are looked after. The market is changing everywhere I feel
Hilarious! Some people are advertising their bikes at great prices, well researched and priced to sell. Your first comment on price is to knock off 10%, maybe more, without even seeing it, call it a bargain and infer that the owner has a financial reason for selling. You won't be buying a bike from me any time soon!
The dealer in Palm Beach where I bought my 2023 Guzzi V7 last year for $9,200 is now advertising the same bike for $6,500! This is new with no miles.
Wow Edward, that leaves a very sour taste in the mouth when this happens. Same thing over in the UK with the BSA with the price drops
Could the reason be ULEZ and other clean air zones rather than anything to do with Covid or the cost-of-living crisis (which was a result of the invasion of Ukraine, not Covid)? The places where people live who have the most money are precisely these zones, or at least cities with them at the centre, such as Birmingham and Bath, and a bike with pre Euro 3 emissions ratings that you won't be able to take into a major city, if you live near one, will obviously be worth less than one you can. There's also the likelihood that clean-air restrictions will get tighter, so a zone that requires Euro 3 today will require Euro 4 or 5 tomorrow. This is what happened with the London zone; initially it was Euro 4 if I remember correctly; now it's Euro 6 for diesel and Euro 4 for petrol cars and 3 for bikes. On the other hand, BSA prices have dropped like a stone because they're unreliable and poorly supported.
Good point Indigo. That may well be a factor 👍
It's a tough time to sell motorcycles what with the economic climate and the fact the weather this year(and last!) hasn't been great and we are approaching winter. I do really feel for people who have to sell to pay bills. Covid created a false valuation of what bikes were worth, and as you say, this is now stabilising. I've never understood the classic bike market and I'm old enough to remember these machines when they were new, some were good in their day but things have moved on and I certainly wouldnt pay the price that is asked for them. This year has seen many bike dealerships close, and I suspect more will close in the coming months
You are right Mr Hackenbacker 👍. Everyone is worrying about the future financial situation. Classic bikes are a strange thing. Nostalgia is worth loads of money 😆. Some classics really are classics but most are just old bikes and should be priced as such 😆.
aye, so true, give me a new one any day. i loved all the cortina's i had in the 70's and 80's, but would i swap one for my focus now, not a chance, i'll keep the memory a happier one that it possibly was haha.
This does the motorcycle industry no end of harm. The word to look for is "depreciation" who the hell is
going to buy a new machine. Ever!
Unsellable sports bikes, well no wonder when you look at the state of the roads in the UK.
Hi Gary, not sure it's harm, but the last couple of years have just gone crazy. Now is the time that bikes return to their true value in an economy that is simply readjusting itself - supply and demand I guess
Good content and pleased to see no sponsorship
Thanks Ethan, I would be so lucky - or maybe unlucky 😆 regards the sponsorship 😆. Thanks for the comment 👍
Just sold a Himalayan for what I paid for it and picked up a new one at an excellent price, not haggling too hard as I want the dealer to be around. If we all encourage a race to the bottom there will be nothing left of an industry...
wow, someone who's a realist, that's a refreshing change 😀, and great to hear a happy ending. I did the same with my car a year ago, only 'lost' £300 when i sold it after having it 4 years, then got a brilliant deal on another - felt great to be a winner for once.
that's great Steve, well done. All about supply and demand and this shapes the values in and out. Times change and the industry has always been accustomed to change which to be fair, is a good thing. I love the Hyma, great bike ❤
@@Bob-ts2tu It was a good deal all round, as good as new very low miles, serviced used bike, easy to retail and a great new bike, great dealer too. Will buy another off them soon.
@@bankruptpensioner It is a great bike. I grew up around the motor trade in the 70's with the first Honda dealer in the UK, so have seen a few changes, I hope low engine and affordable bikes can encourage people to take up as practical trabnsport, but I feel we need to lobby government more to encourage this...
I want a used Benelli 502X and have not seen them plumet. Same prices as six months ago when I last looked.
I was looking at the 502x and 702x they are apparently really top heavy and don't have a lot of tourqe that and being Chinese the parts arent really available if you aren't bothered about speed you would be better off with a Royal Enfield or a BWM GS 700/750 the 700 isn't far off the Benelli and you get BMW build quality and a good parts network
@@baddmint
Apparently? So you haven't ridden them. All parts are available. My brother has a 2021 502x in Portugal and he's toured all round Europe on it. Loves it, as I did when using it for a month in the summer. Its got all needed. The best selling bike in Italy and very popular all over Europe.
@@baddmint I live in Italy and the best-selling larger capacity motorcycle is the BENELLI 502. Highly reliable, highly thought of. Perhaps it would be advisable to actually ride one before commenting and using the word "apparently"
By the way, if there are any support problems in the UK they are entirely down to the Importer (MOTO GB) not the BENELLI brand itself.
@@tman5634 That's great i hope you don't have any problems then
@@clivecartey That is great i was also looking at a Voge 900 dsx and just like Benelli bikes the dealer network isn't here yet
The price of my bike hasn't changed.
It's still not for sale.
I'd tell someone to go and look at the ones they can afford.
Was that eccleshall you rode through at the start of through vid ?
It certainly is Brum 😆
@bankruptpensioner I thought so ,I live not far from that area now I'm in Shifnal ,I've only found your chanel today so I've been binge watching your vids some good stuff, keep it up mate
@@brumtownrider It's a small world 😆. If you see me riding, don't forget to stick two fingers up 😆👍
Maybe it’s an indication of global population decline? Suppose there are 2 older guys that has decided to stop riding, but only 1 youth interested in buying a motorcycle , then prices will drop. Look at age of those who are riding, what is the mean average?
Good point Jonas, Every year the riding population is dropping. And then comes the time to sell the bike that's been in the garage for a couple of years where the seller just needs to get rid of the bike. Good point 👍
Sorry Richard, i cant fully get on board with you here, there's always good bargains to be had no matter what and whenever, & still great deals to be done on brand new bikes if you are a bit canny, in fact when i bought my new 2024 bike end jan for 1st march reg, it really didnt make a great deal of sense to buy 2nd hand as i got a great deal, and i know if i sell it i'll lose loads, but i expect to keep it for quite a while, and as a virgin purchase i know the history and the fact it's well run in and looked after. for example the over 4 year old cb650r you quote and expect to get for 5k is about 7.9k dealer list, which you can get cheaper im sure with 2 years warranty, plus whatever extras you negotiate, so even though i'm not particularly brewstered, id personally buy new if i was expecting to keep it. anyhow, thanks for the thoughts and GL
It's bad news for big dealerships who bought loads of secondhand stock thats not now worth what they thought.
Dealers have only bought bikes in extremely cheap, be in oughtright or part exchanges.
They will always make huge profits on them, much more than new bikes. Friend part exchanged his bike recently & was offered £1,800. The dealer has it for sale for £3,499.
Go figure
@@keepitreal1547 what about the Completely Motorcycle group? There will be more
You are right, and i think it will just get worse over this winter
@@bankruptpensioner
Please state which bikes were £4k & now £1,200?
@@keepitreal1547 Bikes like Suzuki GS650E, Honda CB400N, Honda CB900F2, all these kind of bikes that were great, but not iconic such as the RD500LC, RG500, RD350LC etc
Hi Richard, I have seen a bike for £16,995, it's a 2018 model and I was wandering what do you would consider to be a fair price for this bike? The milage is just over 2000 miles with 2 owners from new and with prechecks done, everything checks out and no faults found. The bike is in good condition and comes with a new MOT and service prior to delivery/collection.
Might help if state what bike it is.
@@mikehurley5052 Can Am F3S trike.
Hard to judge on the Can Am's. My rule is 20% off from year one (on the price in 2018). Then 20% for each year after that. Now the market is starting to stabilise, this is a good rule of thumb but the UK is a strange place when it comes to this calculation. To add further, the calculation absoloutly applies if there is no warranty with the bike. Thoughts?
@@bankruptpensioner Thanks Richard it's hard to judge. I will do a bit more homework. 👍🙂
Hi Richard., The strangest thing happened tonight. I went to my side ledger to whom I subscribed to & went to your you tube name only to find this video was released a couple of days ago. The problem is that although I am subscribed to your channel , I am not receiving them. Somebody or something is blocking them from coming to my computer., What duo you think?
Hey Larry, no idea what is going on. No differences on my side. I assume you have notification turned on??
@@bankruptpensioner yes
@@larrywade9041 that is strange Larry, maybe RUclips doesn't love me that much 😆
Wow…you do drive a hard bargain
😆👍
In the man’s own words, I suspect most of his offers would be knocked back.
You are Totaly Missing Reality. When you go and look at some of " Jewels " they are " Junk" and you then know why it was advertised for months. THERE IS NO MARKET FOR ALL THESE BIKES. They are NOT BARGAINS. Most of them are SOUR LEMONS. Every dealer is full of unsold bikes been there up a year eating money .QED.
Totally agree with you on this. 90% of bikes for sale especially on fb marketplace are being sold as they are lemons. No one selling a bike writes the advert saying the bike is a complete shed but I want top dollar.
Rubbish! Bikes are so well made these days virtually every low to medium mileage model will be fine. Lack of sales down to cost of living crisis not the condition of the bikes.
@@trailingarm63 haven’t got a clue what your on about. No one said anything about lack of sales being down to condition. My self and i believe the comment above said that the bikes that are getting reduced in price and on market place for weeks on end is most probably down to the fact they are not very well looked after machines and people who are interested go to look at them and see for themselves that it is not as good as described
Good morning Gramps, how are you getting on controlling your diabetes?
Hey Lee, good to hear from you and thanks for asking. Very well actually. It's now been some 8 weeks since on the medication and all the ailments that had been creeping up on me over the years, which I thought was just part of getting old, are slowly disappearing. I feel so much better which is great. I need to do an update video on this subject 😆. Thanks for asking Lee, much appreciated 👍
@@bankruptpensioner sounds like you are on track to reversing your diabetes.. keep up the good work and yes looking forward to your diabetes update video. Maybe you can start a new channel on your diabetes journey I'd be interested in watching it..