TLR 22X-4 - Build Review - In Depth Look at the Chassis - Key Features
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Here's my full Build Review of the TLR 22X-4 - Team Losi Racing's 1/10th scale 4wd electric off road buggy. I go over how it assembled, owners manual, tools needed, parts left over, items needed to run, cool features and my overall thoughts.
Here's some items mentioned in this video:
TLR 22X-4 Chassis Kit: bit.ly/3dXzQZZ
MIP Hex Drivers: bit.ly/2QHyA2Y
MIP .050 Hex Driver: bit.ly/3aOrqCa
MIP Nut Drivers: bit.ly/3ahqDJT
MIP 5.0mm Nut Driver: bit.ly/3eakgdN
MIP 4mm Turnbuckle Wrench: bit.ly/2UVpdhD
Needle Nose Pliers: bit.ly/38qjbdr
Lexan Shears: bit.ly/3dYPkwV
Body Reamer JC: bit.ly/3aNZT3P
Hobby Knife JC: bit.ly/2J9Za0K
Shock Shaft Pliers ProTek: bit.ly/34kOINv
O-ring Grease: bit.ly/3bqG9Dm
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What feature do YOU like about the 22X-4? 🤔
All of them!! I like the battery holder, The fact that it includes wheels in the box and just the general quality of the kit. Keep up the great content Rich!! 👍👊😎
The RCNetwork I think TLR have raised the benchmark with the rounding off of carbon fibre components. The battery tray is a nice improvement, not sure how long the strap will last though.
The drivetrain is particularly smooth. The alloy components are beautifully finished. There’s a lot of good stuff, refinement! 👍🤓🇦🇺
Fan mount
Dang, TLR knocked it out of the park on this one, very impressed with the quality of the kit and as you said the way things fit together so freely is pretty amazing. Great vid and awesome build as always.
Thanks Don - yes, they did a great job on this one.
They copied the Xb4 X-ray
Couldn’t agree more, hands down the best kit I have ever built. The only minor flaw I ran across was actually one of the turnbuckles had the directional indicator on the incorrect side. I had to sit there scratching my head when I was trying to put on a ball cup and finally got the magnifying glass out and sure enough the threads were backwards vs the rest of the turnbuckles. Other than that, completely flawless.
Thanks for watching. Wow, yeah, that would irritate having the threads on the wrong side...turnbuckles are already complicated enough!
Excellent detail Rich! Thanks for another great video!
Thanks Greg! Always cool to see you in the comments!
great video thanks- the perfect placement of the shock parts at 4:47 is a work of art
Thanks Joe! My OCD was in full Quasi for the shock build!!
Tlr really did an incredible job , this video shows a lot more than even what I’ve seen already. Also I was shocked to see you’d built it already and had new video up! Nice job 👍🏻
Thanks buddy! Yeah, got it on Sunday - filmed/edited Sunday night for the unboxing. Built it on Monday/part of Tuesday and filmed/edited Tuesday night for a Wednesday morning upload. Crazy! Now, waiting on electronics to arrive....
I watch a lot of build reviews. Your channel is by far the best!
Thanks Mike, I really appreciate the great comment! A lot of work goes into these videos
Great overview on the new buggy. The kit looks very nice and I like the carbon fiber touches. Nice they include wheels!
Thanks buddy! It's indeed a great kit so far!
The "D bag" is what I always look forward to!
Yep, I can't avoid a small smirk when I see the D Bag
So nice to see your vids on a more regular basis. Your videos are so well done which makes them such a pleasure to watch. I still love your Eb410/MIP and am pleased to own one of your projects. On a personal note we have moved back to the US after a 12 year vacation in Cancun.
Thanks Tom! How've you been? I think Cancun might be a better place these days.....
The RCNetwork Not really Rich, Poot expensive sketchy medicalcare (no ventalators) high crime etc. They robbed us blind when leaving. 35% capital gains tax on our home sale, 25,000 peso bribe to the state police over our car which they eventually took away from us and a nightmare 8 week to receive our household goods. Leaving was a very bitter experience.
Yikes, sorry to hear that. I always remember going to Tijuana, Rosarito and Ensenada as a Teenager - its was a different place
Very impressive quality, have only had 1/8th tlr cars, cannot wait time try my first 1/10th buggy.
It's a great one to start with! Thanks for watching
Man that kit looks amazing I ran HB last year and did not care for it. This looks 100x better. More like an xray but with even more detail
Thanks for watching, Tyler! Yeah, the details are there and they did a great job
Love your build videos 🤩 So much detail and pertinent info 👍👍 This kit looks great and I hope we can see it in action soon 👌
Thanks GLRC! It takes lots of documentation as I build to get all of the before assembled footage - but it's nice to help out people that are going to be building one, or thinking about buying one. Yes, on the driving footage....as soon as we are back to some sort of normal
cant wait for mine!! Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for watching! Happy RCing!
First off, great review. Wow, I had heard the rumors but did not realize this car is basically a carbon copy of the XRay. No wonder they labeled it the 22X(B)-4
Maybe a "Carbon Fiber Copy" - all kidding aside, most 4wd buggies look similar these days. I'm glad TLR is in the same ball game now with a shaft drive car - but they did kill it with all of the details that many manufacturers overlook. I made some remarks during the video on one particular manufacturer...
1000% agree on motor mounts. the 8ightX-e should have taken a page out of that book.
Yep, 1/8th scales are terrible with motor mounts these days - like the HB and the 8ight X and the clamping style. The Team Durangos were bad where the motor was fixed and the center diff moved to the motor mount. The SWorkz where the motor bolted to the mount and then to the car....the Pro-Line Pro-MT as well. Even worse was the B44.2 and previous cam-style motor mounts. It was always a guessing game to get that mesh right. All RC's should have the 22x-4's motor mount. (period)
I must of watched this at least ten times
Nice! I only have 6 times in
Hi, thank you so much for the upload and the detailed build review really do appreciate all your time and effort keep them coming
Thanks for watching, Walter!
Maaan, when I saw 6:45, my first thought was "Oh snap"... I don't think I paid attention to that little detail. 😳 Well, easy access diffs for the win, I suppose. I know what I'll be doing this weekend.
Good thing I haven't raced mine yet either. Thank Goodness I decided to watch this video; my ESC is coming in next week.
Glad to help out...When I was assembling I noticed the difference and thought "well which way am I supposed to put this damn thing in"...then I actually looked at the manual. lol
@@TheRCNetwork Well, it turned out that the washer on my rear pinion was backwards. Because the box wrench doesn't fit when the garbox is mounted to the chassis, I thought I was going to have to do a major teardown, but luckily, my Serpent 5mm socket driver fit. Whew! 😅
love your reviews very in depth with a lot of attention to detail. Wish you could review the xray buggies. 4wd or 2 wheel drive. newish to the hobby. have a B64 which i decided to start of before buying a brand ew kit. Xray Xb4 21.. associated B74.1 or TLR 22x-4 is right on top of my list
I've reached out to Xray several times to work with them and never received a message back. I've been found of their buggies for years even before the B44.2
Super detailed video rich!!! Very enjoyable!!!! 😊🤙🇦🇺🍻
Thanks buddy! TLR did a great job on this one
Man, I really like this... I'm not really a TLR guy, but thinking if I had an extra 500$, I'd be building ome of these... the EB410.2 looks good too, and I was considering building one of those for my kid to dip his toes into 4wd, but may have to re-evaluate things... for some reason I haven't fell in love with the Xray, or even the AE B74(our 2wd racers are AE)....
The exra hardware and bits, the small details , like wire routing, extra machining steps, all make this just a well done kit, no wonder it took them a while. Those battery blocks are great, no more loosing so much foam! Wondering if you could use smaller blocks just to add a small cushion stuck to those blocks? Did they include a spare battery strap, in case the rubber were to snap? That would be my worry with a rubber strap. Wheels included even...
Cant wait to see what you power it with and what u think after runnimg it some...
The TLR went together great. the details are really what makes it stand out in the 4wd class
Great video, really helped me with my build, I have one question how did you tighten up the nut on 1st center shaft front page 19 part 3.
Thanks
Thanks for the great video!
Thanks for stopping by, Tim!
I'd love to see a comparison to the yokomo yz-4 sf2. Lots of similarities between the two.
yes, very true.....but besides the drift Yokomo, that's the only Yokomo I've owned...they hard to come by
@@TheRCNetwork My shop does quite a bit of yokomo. Seems like about half of the guys are running them, I just got one about a month ago.
Why oh why the .050th. They were supposed to dump that and go all metric! 😢😢
It is a sweet kit though! 👍🤓🇦🇺
Yeah, I was shocked to see that too. I tried a 1.3mm wrench, but it was pretty tight. It's only on 4 screws - the ones that hold the piston on the shock shaft.
The RCNetwork that’s the worst part, you build 99.9% of the kit metric and then 4 screws that are not labelled as .050th pop up and you try and make a 1.5mm fit. By the time common sense kicks in, which is about 3 hours for me, you’ve gone crazier 🤪🤪🤪🤪
But it was an impressive kit, fit and finish was superb. I have a 22-4 that has not been used at all, so this one I’ll live vicariously through your build! 👍🤓🇦🇺
Did you by any chance have mislabeled bags? I think about 25% of mine had the wrong numbers lol. For example, my J bag, only J1 was labeled correctly, the rest were all wrong. I used a bit of black grease for the turnbuckles and was amazed how easily they went together, no sore fingers. Barely took me 10 minutes to build those.
What's odd, is I cut the A bag open, and then cut all of the bags open all at once....So, I wasn't even following along like that - I didn't catch it till like bag E
I've just come back to 1/10 off road after 21 years, and I've just purchased a brand new Losi 22-4 1.0 from eBay which was cheap. I'm wondering now if I should've purchased this new one instead, looking at how simple it is compared to my 3 belts
yeah, TLR got a ton of flack on the belt drive and many of the quirks of the 22-4's. They also didn't do too well outside the hands of the pros....a buddy of mine has one and it does well, just got to keep up with the diffs and the tuning
Looks great. I keep my xray xb4 2020 though. Looks like losi have "stolen" some of the details from the xb4
Many of the 4wd buggies look similar now...Xray, AE, Yokomo and TLR. It's all about the details now....the way they drive and the driver/part support globally.
Best RC-channel on RUclips👍👍
Thanks Roger! I appreciate the kind words!
What pinion gears should I get for the TLR 22x-4 as a starting point? As a. starting point. I would start with the 78t spur gear and I purchased a 13.5T motor and I am not much experience driver. I am based in the UK where temps are not very high and plan to start practicing on shorter tracks.
If anyone could give some advice that would be great.
According to the manual, TLR recommends a 78/24 for a 13.5t motor....now keep in mind that most 13.5t classes are filled with people that really tweak their settings including timing and boost.....so you might appear slower at first until you get into the settings of your electronics
X-ray? Chassis looks pretty exact but now a days, most all shaft 4wd 10th buggys are the same. Almost wished they continued to develop the belt driven 22-4. Make it more easier to work on and maintenance. Oh well. This 22-X is still a awesome 4wd buggy.
Or AE? 🤔 - I hear ya - they're all looking similar, but where the difference is - the details.
@@TheRCNetwork specifically, looking at the chassis. Looks more like the xb4 but absolutely, it's all in the details. Just thought developing the 22-4 would also be a good idea since a lot of tracks are converting to carpet, including my local track, NorCal Hobbies.
@@TheRCNetwork specifically, looking at the chassis. Looks more like the xb4 but absolutely, it's all in the details. Just thought developing the 22-4 would also be a good idea since a lot of tracks are converting to carpet, including my local track, NorCal Hobbies.
I was whaching Frank Roots live video and he said the reason he went away from belt driven because he figured it would make the buggy limited on a few things
Chevy RC schumachers L1 EVO belt driven, and that thing doesn’t seem to lack anywhere. I would have liked to see a belt drive buggy from TLR too, be original in their design. I’m disappointed with them copying this platform from XRay & Yoko. Even if everyone else does it.
Rich, I have a (fairly strong, tho not 100% certain) feeling that the flat body mounts are not for Velcro. If they were for Velcro, then the included Velcro would have been cut circular. Since the Velcro was cut rectangular, I'm thinking the Velcro is for 'traditional' body mounting...ie. side rails & lower sides on the body. So, what would those flat body mounts be for? How about magnets? There are several vehicles that have come out over the past year utilising magnetic body mounts, and, as magnetic body mounting becomes more popular, it would be understandable why TLR might incorporate it into newer vehicles.
The flat style body mount (without the dimple for a body clip) started (for me) on the B64d - it came with traditional body mounts, but everyone was shaving the dimple down to flat to act as a body stop for using velcro. That's what the mount is for - to stop the body from coming in contact with electronics and moving parts like the center diff. Then, velcro is used on the side guards and the body to keep it attached. Velcro is not placed on the round part - sorry if that's what I made it sound like in the video
As for magnetic? I doubt we will see that in race buggies. As cool as it might be....it's too much of a "what if" for racers. I think drifters and some scalers, it's fine for....but even scalers have went away from magnets for body mounting
Hi rich is the gears 48 Pitch or 32 pitch thanks nice car
That’s one beautifully engineered car. My RTRs are like toy grade compared to this one.
I agree! It's hard to go back to RTR's and get excited about them anymore.
So much like associated feel like all branded 4 wd look the same what do you guys think?
Yeah, they're all very similar now. AE/TLR/XRay/Yokomo
My servo horn is rubbing the body running a protek servo should I but a shorty or what servo horn do u recommend thankd
this was a highly debated topic when the 22X-4 was released. My Tekin servo with TLR horn doesn't rub.....but it's a matter of how the body is placed using velcro. Honestly, I don't think it't a big deal if the horn moves the body a couple mm during full throw to one side.....I know that the Spectrum servo with the integrated mount doesn't rub, according to the TLR team
Can it be used as a basher, with a 1650kv, if it fits ?. Will the differtiels handle
Sorry wrong car.
Nice, but why is there so much droop upfront🤔
Not sure, this is box stock set up, and hasn't been dialed in yet
How did you mount the shock bottoms to the arms? I thought the kit used button head screws?
They do use button head screws
@@TheRCNetwork I looked at the manual. So the front is button head and the rear are studs with a nut. Interesting. Nothing like my Xx4, lol
John Lieb yes, that’s it. It would have been nice to use 5.5mm hex he’d screws like the Tekno’s.....that way it’s only one driver to remove the shocks
nice
Thanks Tyler!
odd you got the eb 2.0 so fast, but are slacking on the 22x-4...obviously i dont think thats your doing, but curious indeed
It's the way the cookie crumbled....The 22X-4 was delayed a bit, but hey, 2 videos in 3 days, and a built chassis...that's not too bad!
The best Xray copycat so far.
TBH, they're all similar these days!
One of the oldest tech in RC ..pop in end rods..😁
Agreed! I think they should all be captured....but I know they use them as a weak point to save other components
Love this thing, price is turning me off. Especially during these times. Curious is this $100 or more (coupon) better than Tekno EB410.2? ;)
I completely understand on the pricing - most of these companies had these cars in the books for nearly a year now. It's bad timing on price, but good timing that people have some extra time on their hands
Look at all the aluminum parts, wheels, all high quality. Have built over 50 kits and TLR are the easiest and best so far. The Team Associated B74 has the most confusing instructions I ever seen.
Yep. Xb4.
Most wheelers look similar these days. Where the TLR shines are the details and extras they give you in the kit
ayo
Thanks for watching!
This is my favorite feature ITS AN EXACT COPY OF THE X-RAY XB4 way to go TLR how long did it take doing your homework? 3 days for shipping your Xb4 from a main so so can start copying it. Even in the manual tells you to weigh the diffs for proper fluid WOW X-ray had that in there manual since 2013. The slipper is an exact copy. WTF TLR your embarrassing. The carbon fiber is exact copy!
Many 4wd buggies look similar now.....AE, TLR, Xray. the only real "think outside the box" is the Tekno...and the distant last place is Kyosho with their 2006 design
wow, I was unsubscribed some how and forgot this channel existed after dropping out of the hobby, untill Jason mentioned your video. stupid RUclips.
Dang, YT un-subbing people! Glad you're back!