very good pirate. I've been looking for it. Thank you. Since I am also buying a Boyueda, I also think about possible overheating etc... At first I thought of mosfets or a capacitor, but luckily it was "only" the hall sensor. 🙄 😂 😊 Thank you. 👏😊And yes, you have a very lovely dog. 🥰🐕
@@PirateWasHere plug Black stick of your multimeter cable to the black wire of the hall sensor and the red wire on green yealow or blue cable of the hall sensor , set the multimeter on beep mode and you will hear beep every magnet captation
The hall sensor could be different in other scooters. For example in my Boyueda 13 Inch (the heavy one like obarter) are different and when i used the 41F ones it didnt work. I had to use TLE4935L (49E). Dont know why but with the 49E it started to work again.
I just read it that brushless motor wear over time and may cause sparking, so should not be used for long time and reliability. So what his durability and what do you think about this?
An intake vent that tucks behind the wheel arm going over the cables that lead to the rear motor would cool the cables preventing them melting together and cool the motor. Which has been mentioned in a other post
Just got a bit scared with your damage. I just bought this scooter based on your great reviews and is on the way. I want to thank you for explaining and teaching us for any potential damages. Although most of us dont have your knowledge on fixing a scooter damage, your videos help tremendously. Again Thank you. I would appreciate if you keep up this, helping us enjoying our scooters
Hello my friend, nice video. I have a zero 10x 60v. My rear wheel every time i hit a road bump , stops working. I have to leave the throttle and push again and works perfect. You think in have the same problem? Thank you
Hi , i have the same problem with mine, i hit something and stop working , controller doing a noise, i have to start again throttle, and on hill dont have power at all, if you solved problem please tell me what you have found please
Hi, after riding my 5600W scooter over an uphill with one motor, the rear wheel got stuck and does not rotate freely. I do not know if the wheel is defect or the controller. I would like to ask for your help. Thank you in advance.
i have this problem yesterday and then when i hit down throttle the rear wheel dont even spin anymore.....please help us if anyone knows the answer to this....
I did the same mistake I have ordered new controller but problem was the same motor was twitching with other controller too I don’t know how to repair hall sensor
Hiya Mr P i have a problem and was hoping you can help ! ? i had a puncture lol in the rear so i took the wheel off to change it and then decided to change disc and pads etc as you know to take the disc off the ES18 you need to disconnect the motor so i did this but i took the pins out of the white blocks like on your demo then i decided to do the same on the front but i reconnected the back one wrong and when i plugged it back in both power connectors made a pop sound and spark i thought this was meant to happen and tried to start the motors ! nothing happen and the console showed controller error ! so i unplugged and noticed i had wired the rear one wrong ! so i re-did it the right way and turned it back on ! no fault signal came up on the console but the back motor just makes noise and not move and the front does nothing at all ! can you help please sorry for my error ???? please help thank you
@@PirateWasHere ok i need to buy a volt meter ! which one should i buy ? i ordered hall sensors also and hope thats the issue ! what type of glue did you use to stick sensor back in lol ? and much respect and thank you for your reply xD
btw pop sound is mor or less normal when u re connecting xt60 power yellow connectors, so do not do it very often cause it's damaging connectors. for 99% all is working , just chill and check all cables again 🍕🍻🏴☠️
Guys can someone help me? I just received my boyueda, I press 1x 🔒 2x ⚡️, but nothing happens! I don’t know what to do.. Im losing my mind really, please someone help me.
@@PirateWasHere it doesn’t even turn on to look at the voltage. The book says it should make a beep sound, but it doesn’t.. so any suggestions please bro?
hey pirate, i really like your videos. I need your help. How did you took the hub motor out of the wheel because mine is stuck and i dont know how to it out. also how many cm is the hall sensor circuit because i need to order one
Hey pirate, so i recently repaired and fit a new motor cable , and the wheel only twitches, i dont have the small pcb that goes between the motor and controller, could this cause the issue? Any idea how to get one of those small pcb?
Hi boss I have a mini harley and am facing sensor malfunctioning.. I wanted to ask if any sensor can be put there or every scooter has a specific sensor 7:557:598:018:02
Your inner’s beariring outer race is corroded and you say there is no signs of water inside the motor? :) Magnets are nickel plated so they won’t rust it there is no damage in this coating.
I was planning to get it..Pirate does it really have alot of issues or not...any other person that's experience these or you pirate what's the answer???
hello, i brought that eswing for my boy awhile back but he blew the back Tyre tube, would you know where i could get another one? cant find one with straight valve. thanks
hi thanks i found 41F. the throttle must be paired with the controller did you get the new controller to do something or did you just plug it in and you're done? thanks dare i don't go just grind
Soo same problem but my wires melted n fused together have I noticed the motor cables on controller are thicker in diameter compared to actually motors cable does that matter u think? My motor cabled fused n melted together going up hill
for_all_those we dnt have those products in the UK where is it or what is the chemical compound maybe it’s another name I can’t even find the jios aerogel spray
@@MrGiodude17 you can buy aerogel insulation tape on amazon, the spray would make your life alot easier and worth the extra money if you can find it though
Hi Pirate, finally I get from ali the Hall sensors and I repolace just one ( I had the 41F 816 and I get the 41F 8847 ) and the problem is that between GND and out put we get 370K ohm and with this new we get 50K) so the problem remains... can you give me a tip? if I change all the three we the same value we fix the problem? I don´t know where I can get the originals... thanks do you have any way to talk with you? Telegram whatever...
@@PirateWasHere so possibly controller i supposed? since the battery was newly replaced. but what part of controller is it by any chance? is it repairable?
Pirate could you compare Boyu with T85 in details (suspension, acceleration, punch, stability, durability, max speed, hill climbing)? There is a total disinformation on the net. In your videos you say Boyueda is more punchy at low speeds but at the same time it looks like T85 accelerates far better in range of 40-80 kph.
@@michalkolodziej ta dezinformacja w necie polega na tym ze te hulajki sa testowane przez ludzi z różną wagą oraz to ze nie ma dwoch identycznych bujedek czy t85 bo kazda jest złożona inaczej :D dopóki nie masz wiedzy z zakresu elektrotechniki to nie baw sie w te zabawki.
@@PirateWasHere someone said there was a plastic connector that melted inside the battery tray. Do you think this is what caused the hall sensor to break?
@@artlew6547 Rozumiem Twój punkt widzenia i generalnie wydaje się być rozsądny. Z drugiej strony konstrukcja jako taka ma pewne cechy i parametry, które powinny być w miarę stałe nawet jeśli składają je Chińczyki :P Mam tu na myśli zawieszenie, stabilność, wytrzymałość. Co do przyspieszenia i prędkości to faktycznie komponenty w poszczególnych "seriach" potrafią się zmieniać bez informowania klientów tak jak było np. z tylnym shockiem w T85, baterią, silnikiem itp. Skoro @Pirate wskazuje w swoich komentarzach, że lepsze jest T85/ES18 od Boyuedy to znaczy, że jakieś przyczyny za tym muszą stać. Fajnie byłoby je naświetlić, szczególnie że jak na ten moment nie widziałem nigdzie ani 1 porównania.
This i VERY dangerous video, cause you did NOT describe it well. You did say NOTHING about that the scooter in not connected to the battery, but to your own lab power supply. You did not present the schema or say few words how the cables are connected. Some ppl can get hurt - especially if they have powerful scooters or want to do similar things on other machines. Thanks to you own test power supply (like riden or any other) you can adjust proper (safe) voltage/amperage and do this test safety and easy. Working on stator (and rotor) that is on can be dangerous! Also you did not show how you open the motor - and that can be sometimes frustrating. Otherwise, good video.
Well everything is dangerous, even sitting on the chair. If someone follow only one video, and do not understand that this stuff is dangeroua because there is lots of videos about it around , then what can i do . Even if u give to some people the schema and toools , they will messed up it anyway. You said SAFE, there is no such a thing if u have no idea what ure doing, connect 60V at 100mA to hall sensor board, it will fry faster than u can blink, or 5v power supply to 60v battery ;)
@@PirateWasHere "Well everything is dangerous, even sitting on the chair. If someone follow only one video, and do not understand that this stuff is dangeroua because there is lots of videos about it around , then what can i do ." that is why you should mention it. And by simply NOT saying that it NOT connected to main battery but you lab power supply, is... well dangerous for ppl who can try to do "just what this guy do!" Add some info in description at last. And that is why you should connect everything lab power supply, where you have full control. And any mistake is not so critical.
I wish i had your technical skills my friend. I have a 6000W 60 volt escooter. I tried to change the signal lights according to a video bybtge seller, there was a spark, now my rear motor doesnt work, nor my speedometer..i plugged my rear motor in my front controller and it didnt work. My question.is can a simple spark damage a motor that easy?? Fyi: im not tech savvy at all!!!! Oh, my Escooter has 23 km driving time and the company will not honor the warranty for repairs, they will send parts only after i send a video of the escooters current performance! I will neveri buy a product from a company i cant visit in person again when spending this much money. Id appreciate your thoughts.
@@PirateWasHere thank you! That's what I told the seller. It's still under warranty but they're refusing to pay for repairs. I neve even mentioned what happened, I just said the .Motor failed. The internal signal lights connectors have red and green wires, they send me replacement with red and black, so i matched the red... it just made sense. They won't admit fault. Their answer, sorry "We can't bare the cost"..lol I have 23 kms on it. Never again will I shop from a third-party seller from Amazon. Back to the repair, thet sent me a video of how to do the work. These guys are NUTS!! It's like a rata nest of wires and after I sent a photo to a potential technician, he said " don't bring it their, that's a horrible wiring job"
Basically, if your rear motor doesnt work then for 90% rear controller is damaged and have to be replaced , its very possible that this tiny spark did some internal short and only MCU for mosfets is not working. But yeah , as you see , its complex to explain.
Hi i have m365 pro,i want only higher top speed to be 32kmh,installed your firmware "drv155 unlocked speed stock power",but i see it has more power,i can see it in m365tools app.Do you increased phase current and battery current in sport mode?Some risk of burning something with this firmware?What is changed in this firmware?thanx
I´m waiting for e new set of controllers... I burn mine that were brand new... If I know you before that... I didn´t have the schematics and and put power 60v on the Blue/blue wire (single /dual) and I heard a click or two like when a smd resistor break... and now I have error number 10 (no communication) so I had to buy a new set, later I will try to see if I can find what burn out... the originals ones burn out completly in the hands of the previus owner... and I´m trying to fix this TI30 @@PirateWasHere
Hi Pirate, I have this problem on my Boyueda. I'm not sure how to open the wheel. Do you just pull the spindle with magnets through once you remove cap? Seems very well held in place.
Just bought T85 & Boyu - will need to choose wisely. I’m hoping to see more tuning/recovery parts at your store for T85/ES18/Boyueda like shock absorbers, controllers etc. it would be nice to have them in Europe instead of waiting 4 weeks for delivery. Thanks for your amazing work!
I was wondering if I could send you a personal case that you can help me with. My motor does the twitching but the company engineer insists it’s my controller that’s the issue. I don’t want to have to sit and wait for other spare parts if it isn’t the controller. I could send a video of the scooter and the issue.
..hey Mr P heres a weird thing before when my scooter arrived , 1 of the blinkers didnt work , it came on but didnt flash and was very dime ! not since my motor has problem it has started working normal ! all power comes on console all lights work front rear and brake are ok ! but motor still has issue makes nose judders a but not run ! i check hall sensors like you explain , mine reads 4.9 i turn wheel and it goes to 0 then between 16. and 17. but my red and black read 4.3 on both !? any ideas please
i really regret buying this scooter... i havent even used it and it allready doesnt work smh stay away from buying this crap and buy something of higher quality!
@@PirateWasHere As you probably already know e-motors have all a fine layer of oil when exiting the factories (that helps a little) and not to forget stators get very hot under load so you can assume is that water would anyway evaporate and dissipate fast enough to not build easy rust on it. But it's clear that this motor didn't got very wet at all, if water got inside it was marginally less then needed to damage anything beside the bearings. I love your channel
Woohoo at least someone with experience 🍻🍕 , I opened couple motors and none of them had any oil on strator & even bearings were rusted on brand new motors from inisde 😒 . BUT probably you are right in this case, boyueda was used on deeper water / mud , I always thought that water can't get inside thurogh bearing but I was wrong :). Thanks & share the knowledge, you re good in this 🚀
Hi I often follow you in your tests, I really liked the replacement of the motor sensor, I would like to ask you in the display settings of the Laotie ES18 what is the factory set number of poles ?? because in my ES18P it is "19" but I think it is wrong because in the motor there are 30 poles that correspond to 15 pairs (N-S) so the number should be 15 and not 19, I did a test and I think the motor turns better but I would like your opinion, thank you very much.
I have a kugoo s1 pro I have to replace the 3 sensor on the motor and I am not sure which one to order please if possible to give me the right sensors for the kugoo s1 pro thank you
I have 1 good video idea. Maybe capture ur computer screen and compare different scooters in different cost and different power categorys. I think many people would love that video! Great video btw!!! All ur videos are great!!
Hey, can you please show me how to connect the display throttle to the rear wheel controller? Including all the wires from display throttle to controller? Would help alot
You actually got me scared, since your Boyeda broke shortly after I ordered mine. I am glad these Chinese scooters are so modifiable/repairable with your help Pirate, I can fix it right up, if it breaks. Cannot wait to recieve mine.
well couple times I found inside the deck of customer scoot big mark of water ~20cm ( scoots where new or never used at rain ), funny thing is that it was in some cheap chinese scoot & in some pricy brand.
I love your video's and I learned a lot from watching them. I got a question for the experts that can point me in the right direction. I have an Aerlang h6 v2 500w 48v 17.5a electric scooter and I want to make it faster. What do I need to change and do to make that happen? Do I need to change the speed controller? Battery? and or the motor? Thank you in advance!!!
Hello i bought front and rear dual motor controllers off aliexpress yun li 60v 45a! I connected everything all is working except front motor controller! Hall is connected , Phase wires connected, large plug is connected, Yet i have no power to front motor what am i missing? Please help thanks!😀 There is no power switch wire for the A controller im atta loss!
@@PirateWasHere No not twitching. I messaged FLJ about the yun li controller they sent me a picture diagram which after cloning the picture wire by wire I still could get no front motor action. I had clipped the 2 blue wires before I took a picture of my situation and to hide my hackery of cut wire I twisted them together and after a mild hulk smash moment I pulled throttle and bam fixed my issue on complete accident thanks to the scooter Gods serenity is back😆😆😆
Hi! Great review, I have LAOTIE ES18P - beast! I used to ride with no mercy in forest on downhill routes but I have burned hall sensor in back wheel. I saw video how to change it but in buoyed, so I don't know wich sensor should I buy. Can you help me, do you have a photo of the motor with no cover, or maybe do you know wich one should I buy? I would be really glad for answer! Thanks !
na halu bedziesz widziec jego nazwe i nr , kup taki sam . jesli nie ma nazy lub jest zamazana wymien na te same ktorych uzylem w boyedzie ( powinno dzialac )
@@PirateWasHere Dzięki za szybką odpowiedź, po rozebraniu silnika na hallach niema żadnych oznaczeń, są gołe, także zamawiam jak polecasz. Jesteś pewien że to te same silniki ? Po przylutowaniu sprawdzić jak na powyższym nagraniu - voltomierzem, czy działa poprawnie?
@@PirateWasHere Na allegro są wyłącznie takie: allegro.pl/oferta/czujnik-halla-41f-zamiennik-0h41-sh41-ss41f-s41-9264149337 czy podejdzie? Trochę żal nie jeździć przez miesiąc na hulajnodze :D Dzięki!
Hi Pirate, great videos, this scooter looks similar to mine (LAOTIE TI30) can you confirm if the wheels are the same? I've owned and ridden 200km (road only) now rear wheel frozen, it does not spin when doing it by hand (or power) I can feel resistance, front motor is fine. When I pull throttle real wheel jerks (sometimes) only a few millimeters, when I rotate manually it will sometimes jerk a few millimeters. I am sure its a faulty motor. I tried to remove motor but I feel like I am missing something as having removed all the screws I could not figure how to get the motor out of the wheel without possible breaking something. Any help would be appreciated or maybe do a video? thanks
Feeling resistance when manually turning the motor could be a symptom of a blown speed controller. Have you tried connecting that speed controller to the front motor and see if the motor runs?
Hiya Mr P hope you are keeping safe !? i tried your method to check hall sensors with motor still on scooter and i get a reading of 4.9 on all sensors , and all go to 0 then like yours go up a bit front and back but still same problem wheel judders makes nose turns very slightly if i touch throttle but im scared to hold it as nose and i can hear vibration type sound ! any solution please ??? pretty please with cherries on top xD thank you again for awesome content ..
@@PirateWasHere so i check halls again i get 4.3 black to red prong in socket ! i then put red prong in yellow i get 4.9 i turn wheel a little it goes to 0 but rises to 17.3 and as i keep turning it jumps from 4.9 to 0 to 17. ! they all do the same !!??
Hey Pirate, great video man! I am facing another problem with my motor, it seem like the central bolt which is going through the motor is bended. Can I change it or I need a new motor? Thanks!
I think is bended cause now when I ride my scooter (the same model as the one you are fixing) it is pretty obvious the wheel is pointing slightly to the left when my steering and forks are straight.
If motot shaft is bent you need to replace whole motor or find some mechanic who can help you straight it. Also its possible that arms or other frame parts are bent but motor is straight 🍻
Hi pirate i saw he was selling 45A controllers with LH100 throttle on AliExpress. do you think you could adapt it on laotia are 18? because I read that for controllers of 45 A it was recommended to have magnets 60mm long or on the laotia and even on the boyueda it's 45mm ... probably why your engine burned out 😅😅😅 What do you think? bye bro
Cześć Pirate. Jak dostać się do środka silnika? Odkręciłem wszystkie śruby, zdjęłem tarcze itd. Ten silikon mocno trzyma? Nie wiem czy go potgrzac, czy po prostu podważyć czymś ten dekielek ? Nie chce niczego uszkodzić 😂
pukaj mlotkiem w oske od strony gdzie nie ma kabla , jak wyjdzie okolo 5-10mm poloz motor na podlodze kablem do gory /oska w ktora pukales do dolu, przytrzymaj kolanami opone i dekiel gorny powoli wysun nie urywaja kabla
@@PirateWasHere cheers 🍻 Incase I needed to ask you about something in my controller and attaching some pictures, how can I communicate with you? Thank You man!
@@PirateWasHere i can not open file how much is price of controler for boyueda?since you now wich part to buy can you buy it and send me by post il pay you.?tnx
sorry I dont have it on stock but BG have it www.banggood.com/BOYUEDA-60V-45A-Rear-Drive-Brushless-Motor-Regulator-Speed-Controller-12-Tubes-For-Electric-Bicycle-E-bike-Scooter-p-1802273.html?p=UQ0316268149201309WF
@@strawman9410 yah i have the ES 18 and brought coolers very good but i need to buy another one as i had to cut the last one off as i over locktight the last one and had to cut it off lol i stripped head of screws but at least i got them out ... but now need new coolers to replace but No shop ):
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Yes pirate play scooter moto and teach .good man.👍
It’s also good to know that the controller ain’t dead. It wouldn’t be a good indicator for the long time users.
@@michalkolodziej but why the hall sensor broke would be good to know also...
@@strawman9410 It might be just an accident. There are videos on YT how to replace a hall sensor, which means that it happens. Still, it's disturbing.
@@strawman9410 I found mine got hit by one of the magnets in the motor.
Is battery connected to the controller in order to do the check on the sensor with ring magnet?
yay, finally the anticipated video
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very good pirate. I've been looking for it. Thank you. Since I am also buying a Boyueda, I also think about possible overheating etc... At first I thought of mosfets or a capacitor, but luckily it was "only" the hall sensor. 🙄 😂 😊 Thank you. 👏😊And yes, you have a very lovely dog. 🥰🐕
Hello, to check better the hall sensors, put your multimeter on beep mode !
Hey, could you elaborate ?
@@PirateWasHere plug Black stick of your multimeter cable to the black wire of the hall sensor and the red wire on green yealow or blue cable of the hall sensor , set the multimeter on beep mode and you will hear beep every magnet captation
Ok but hallsensor need power input to open gate /operate ? is it correct ?
@@PirateWasHere yes plug your controller with the battery
The hall sensor could be different in other scooters. For example in my Boyueda 13 Inch (the heavy one like obarter) are different and when i used the 41F ones it didnt work. I had to use TLE4935L (49E). Dont know why but with the 49E it started to work again.
I just read it that brushless motor wear over time and may cause sparking, so should not be used for long time and reliability. So what his durability and what do you think about this?
Nice found out two sensors are dead on my motor funny thing is that it’s better to know that then to think everything might be dead 😂
where can i buy the engine coolers and charger connectors for the boyueda?
you can leave me the link
An intake vent that tucks behind the wheel arm going over the cables that lead to the rear motor would cool the cables preventing them melting together and cool the motor. Which has been mentioned in a other post
Sean Mcknight ok but is there a show that sell the cooler for motor
Just got a bit scared with your damage. I just bought this scooter based on your great reviews and is on the way. I want to thank you for explaining and teaching us for any potential damages. Although most of us dont have your knowledge on fixing a scooter damage, your videos help tremendously. Again Thank you. I would appreciate if you keep up this, helping us enjoying our scooters
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hi are all the hall sensor the same it the 2800w the one u fixed... what i mean is are the 3 of them are the all 41f hall sensors
Hello my friend, nice video. I have a zero 10x 60v. My rear wheel every time i hit a road bump , stops working. I have to leave the throttle and push again and works perfect. You think in have the same problem? Thank you
Hi , i have the same problem with mine, i hit something and stop working , controller doing a noise, i have to start again throttle, and on hill dont have power at all, if you solved problem please tell me what you have found please
@@alincimpoi3144 open the deck and check all cables. My problem was a partial disconnected cable. I did soldering and works Great.
10pcs 2eura i have ordered last yer.
Hi, after riding my 5600W scooter over an uphill with one motor, the rear wheel got stuck and does not rotate freely. I do not know if the wheel is defect or the controller.
I would like to ask for your help.
Thank you in advance.
i have this problem yesterday and then when i hit down throttle the rear wheel dont even spin anymore.....please help us if anyone knows the answer to this....
I did the same mistake I have ordered new controller but problem was the same motor was twitching with other controller too I don’t know how to repair hall sensor
now you know how to fix it ;0)
Hiya Mr P i have a problem and was hoping you can help ! ? i had a puncture lol in the rear so i took the wheel off to change it and then decided to change disc and pads etc as you know to take the disc off the ES18 you need to disconnect the motor so i did this but i took the pins out of the white blocks like on your demo then i decided to do the same on the front but i reconnected the back one wrong and when i plugged it back in both power connectors made a pop sound and spark i thought this was meant to happen and tried to start the motors ! nothing happen and the console showed controller error ! so i unplugged and noticed i had wired the rear one wrong ! so i re-did it the right way and turned it back on ! no fault signal came up on the console but the back motor just makes noise and not move and the front does nothing at all ! can you help please sorry for my error ???? please help thank you
check hall sensors at first, do not add throttle till u fix it cause u will burn controllers and/or motors
@@PirateWasHere ok i need to buy a volt meter ! which one should i buy ? i ordered hall sensors also and hope thats the issue ! what type of glue did you use to stick sensor back in lol ? and much respect and thank you for your reply xD
btw pop sound is mor or less normal when u re connecting xt60 power yellow connectors, so do not do it very often cause it's damaging connectors. for 99% all is working , just chill and check all cables again 🍕🍻🏴☠️
@@PirateWasHere ok so will any volt meter do say from amazon to check this hall sensor !?
@@PirateWasHere cables all look fine now but problem same
How do u get these controllers apart and back together ..
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Excellent, thanks a lot for the video well spend 8:57 of my live! Regards from Austria!
Thank you 😍🍕🍻
Guys can someone help me?
I just received my boyueda, I press 1x 🔒 2x ⚡️, but nothing happens! I don’t know what to do..
Im losing my mind really, please someone help me.
Check battery voltage
@@PirateWasHere im really sorry, what you mean by that exactly?
@@90DeadTimer when you push the throttle does voltage drops rapidly ? ( you can see voltage on lcd screen )
@@PirateWasHere it doesn’t even turn on to look at the voltage. The book says it should make a beep sound, but it doesn’t.. so any suggestions please bro?
hello, I would like to know if you could make a video about the connections of the accelerator cables of the boyueda scooter, please, thank you
Thank you so much for this video, saved me hundreds, yellow middle one is out need to change it 😬✌️
hey pirate, i really like your videos. I need your help. How did you took the hub motor out of the wheel because mine is stuck and i dont know how to it out. also how many cm is the hall sensor circuit because i need to order one
Hey pirate, so i recently repaired and fit a new motor cable , and the wheel only twitches, i dont have the small pcb that goes between the motor and controller, could this cause the issue? Any idea how to get one of those small pcb?
Hi boss I have a mini harley and am facing sensor malfunctioning.. I wanted to ask if any sensor can be put there or every scooter has a specific sensor 7:55 7:59 8:01 8:02
Standard hall sensor damage in hub motors over bumps. Nothing wrong with the controller most times.
Your inner’s beariring outer race is corroded and you say there is no signs of water inside the motor? :) Magnets are nickel plated so they won’t rust it there is no damage in this coating.
I was planning to get it..Pirate does it really have alot of issues or not...any other person that's experience these or you pirate what's the answer???
This is the question. Average folks don't possess this knowledge, I think. Lol
hello, i brought that eswing for my boy awhile back but he blew the back Tyre tube, would you know where i could get another one? cant find one with straight valve. thanks
how did you open the motor.
i unscrew the screws of the motor but it doesnt come out
I haven't even come across a controller that gives 3.2v to the halls
hi thanks i found 41F. the throttle must be paired with the controller did you get the new controller to do something or did you just plug it in and you're done? thanks dare i don't go just grind
What do you mean about throttle ? :) , grinding is not that hard just do it slow and have some plan in ur head how to do it 🍕🍻
Ahhh yes thank u if I get rich I’ll donate a lot of money to your channels.
Soo same problem but my wires melted n fused together have I noticed the motor cables on controller are thicker in diameter compared to actually motors cable does that matter u think? My motor cabled fused n melted together going up hill
@@MrGiodude17 buy some JIOS aerogel spray, or normal aerogel insulation tape which will be alot easier to find
for_all_those we dnt have those products in the UK where is it or what is the chemical compound maybe it’s another name I can’t even find the jios aerogel spray
@@MrGiodude17 you can buy aerogel insulation tape on amazon, the spray would make your life alot easier and worth the extra money if you can find it though
for_all_those I know u trying to be helpful but I can’t find this on amazon or even google ? Are u sure it’s Jios aerogel spray it looks non existent
Man Ur a national treasure, thank you 💜💜
Hi Pirate, finally I get from ali the Hall sensors and I repolace just one ( I had the 41F 816 and I get the 41F 8847 ) and the problem is that between GND and out put we get 370K ohm and with this new we get 50K) so the problem remains... can you give me a tip? if I change all the three we the same value we fix the problem? I don´t know where I can get the originals... thanks do you have any way to talk with you? Telegram whatever...
I would check voltage on the otput , not the resistance.
problem solved, I replace all the 3 sensors and the motor is working just fine, thanks a lot PIRATE!!!@@PirateWasHere
water got in through bearing race. Hence it being rusty
Hey bro question how to eliminate throttle lag like I pull the throttle and it delays and also delays when I let it go
I guees, Change controllers :/
Hi, can you show me an reliable seller where buy a boyueda 60v front controller? Thanks
if my electric bike also having hard time going in climbs, but perfectly working in flat road, does it also mean a damaged hall sensor is possibility?
Damaged battery for 75% , controller 10% , other issues..
@@PirateWasHere so possibly controller i supposed? since the battery was newly replaced. but what part of controller is it by any chance? is it repairable?
Maybe because the build quality control is done by a dolphin high on lsd?
It's possible xD , but My boyed was working good till I decided to push it to the limit ;0)
Pirate could you compare Boyu with T85 in details (suspension, acceleration, punch, stability, durability, max speed, hill climbing)? There is a total disinformation on the net. In your videos you say Boyueda is more punchy at low speeds but at the same time it looks like T85 accelerates far better in range of 40-80 kph.
@@michalkolodziej ta dezinformacja w necie polega na tym ze te hulajki sa testowane przez ludzi z różną wagą oraz to ze nie ma dwoch identycznych bujedek czy t85 bo kazda jest złożona inaczej :D dopóki nie masz wiedzy z zakresu elektrotechniki to nie baw sie w te zabawki.
@@PirateWasHere someone said there was a plastic connector that melted inside the battery tray. Do you think this is what caused the hall sensor to break?
@@artlew6547 Rozumiem Twój punkt widzenia i generalnie wydaje się być rozsądny. Z drugiej strony konstrukcja jako taka ma pewne cechy i parametry, które powinny być w miarę stałe nawet jeśli składają je Chińczyki :P Mam tu na myśli zawieszenie, stabilność, wytrzymałość. Co do przyspieszenia i prędkości to faktycznie komponenty w poszczególnych "seriach" potrafią się zmieniać bez informowania klientów tak jak było np. z tylnym shockiem w T85, baterią, silnikiem itp. Skoro @Pirate wskazuje w swoich komentarzach, że lepsze jest T85/ES18 od Boyuedy to znaczy, że jakieś przyczyny za tym muszą stać. Fajnie byłoby je naświetlić, szczególnie że jak na ten moment nie widziałem nigdzie ani 1 porównania.
I'm putting 5v through and only getting 1.3v back from the hall sensor. Is this normal?
How did you solve the problem?
@@urbanzaksek it resolved itself. No idea how.
New fan but loving the vids mate, top quality, keep it up👍
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do you have any videos showing how you open the motor?
This i VERY dangerous video, cause you did NOT describe it well. You did say NOTHING about that the scooter in not connected to the battery, but to your own lab power supply. You did not present the schema or say few words how the cables are connected. Some ppl can get hurt - especially if they have powerful scooters or want to do similar things on other machines.
Thanks to you own test power supply (like riden or any other) you can adjust proper (safe) voltage/amperage and do this test safety and easy. Working on stator (and rotor) that is on can be dangerous!
Also you did not show how you open the motor - and that can be sometimes frustrating. Otherwise, good video.
Well everything is dangerous, even sitting on the chair. If someone follow only one video, and do not understand that this stuff is dangeroua because there is lots of videos about it around , then what can i do .
Even if u give to some people the schema and toools , they will messed up it anyway.
You said SAFE, there is no such a thing if u have no idea what ure doing, connect 60V at 100mA to hall sensor board, it will fry faster than u can blink, or 5v power supply to 60v battery ;)
@@PirateWasHere "Well everything is dangerous, even sitting on the chair. If someone follow only one video, and do not understand that this stuff is dangeroua because there is lots of videos about it around , then what can i do ." that is why you should mention it. And by simply NOT saying that it NOT connected to main battery but you lab power supply, is... well dangerous for ppl who can try to do "just what this guy do!" Add some info in description at last.
And that is why you should connect everything lab power supply, where you have full control. And any mistake is not so critical.
Bro u have no ide what u saying, any mistake is critical when u re messing with electric circuit
@@PirateWasHere yea really? Mistake with 0,1v and 0,1 a is the same like with 15kv and 100a ? lol
I wish i had your technical skills my friend. I have a 6000W 60 volt escooter. I tried to change the signal lights according to a video bybtge seller, there was a spark, now my rear motor doesnt work, nor my speedometer..i plugged my rear motor in my front controller and it didnt work. My question.is can a simple spark damage a motor that easy?? Fyi: im not tech savvy at all!!!! Oh, my Escooter has 23 km driving time and the company will not honor the warranty for repairs, they will send parts only after i send a video of the escooters current performance!
I will neveri buy a product from a company i cant visit in person again when spending this much money. Id appreciate your thoughts.
hard to say what coudl be wrong, service is needed. FInd someone who can find the issue, it's to risky for newbies to mess with high power battery
@@PirateWasHere thank you! That's what I told the seller. It's still under warranty but they're refusing to pay for repairs. I neve even mentioned what happened, I just said the .Motor failed. The internal signal lights connectors have red and green wires, they send me replacement with red and black, so i matched the red... it just made sense. They won't admit fault. Their answer, sorry "We can't bare the cost"..lol I have 23 kms on it. Never again will I shop from a third-party seller from Amazon. Back to the repair, thet sent me a video of how to do the work. These guys are NUTS!! It's like a rata nest of wires and after I sent a photo to a potential technician, he said " don't bring it their, that's a horrible wiring job"
Basically, if your rear motor doesnt work then for 90% rear controller is damaged and have to be replaced , its very possible that this tiny spark did some internal short and only MCU for mosfets is not working.
But yeah , as you see , its complex to explain.
@PirateWasHere thank you for all the replies amd information! Appreciate it!
Hi i have m365 pro,i want only higher top speed to be 32kmh,installed your firmware "drv155 unlocked speed stock power",but i see it has more power,i can see it in m365tools app.Do you increased phase current and battery current in sport mode?Some risk of burning something with this firmware?What is changed in this firmware?thanx
Great video.
Question…does it matter if the hall sensor replacement is unipolar or bipolar?
Can’t find any information online or on RUclips.
/Bklyn👑
in my case the problem was that the hall sensor get lose... can you imagine that? yours doesn´t come out... mine were lose :) god bless china ;)
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I´m waiting for e new set of controllers... I burn mine that were brand new... If I know you before that... I didn´t have the schematics and and put power 60v on the Blue/blue wire (single /dual) and I heard a click or two like when a smd resistor break... and now I have error number 10 (no communication) so I had to buy a new set, later I will try to see if I can find what burn out... the originals ones burn out completly in the hands of the previus owner... and I´m trying to fix this TI30 @@PirateWasHere
My controllers arrived today and I found out that one sensor is dead... mines are 41F816, thanks Pirate for the troubleshooting!!!!!@@PirateWasHere
Hi Pirate, I have this problem on my Boyueda. I'm not sure how to open the wheel. Do you just pull the spindle with magnets through once you remove cap? Seems very well held in place.
more great content by the big Mr P xD oh did you know your shop is down !?
Thx Bro and I know, I will open shop soon on my website :)
Just bought T85 & Boyu - will need to choose wisely.
I’m hoping to see more tuning/recovery parts at your store for T85/ES18/Boyueda like shock absorbers, controllers etc. it would be nice to have them in Europe instead of waiting 4 weeks for delivery. Thanks for your amazing work!
I was wondering if I could send you a personal case that you can help me with. My motor does the twitching but the company engineer insists it’s my controller that’s the issue. I don’t want to have to sit and wait for other spare parts if it isn’t the controller. I could send a video of the scooter and the issue.
..hey Mr P heres a weird thing before when my scooter arrived , 1 of the blinkers didnt work , it came on but didnt flash and was very dime ! not since my motor has problem it has started working normal ! all power comes on console all lights work front rear and brake are ok ! but motor still has issue makes nose judders a but not run ! i check hall sensors like you explain , mine reads 4.9 i turn wheel and it goes to 0 then between 16. and 17. but my red and black read 4.3 on both !? any ideas please
i really regret buying this scooter... i havent even used it and it allready doesnt work smh
stay away from buying this crap and buy something of higher quality!
hi i also ruined my hall transmitter latom that 41F 926 is in it you put 41F 920 in it i only get 41F 012 can i get good into it too? thanks
my scooter is running fine unless i use brakes, whenever i am using the brakes the motor is getting jammed and the scooter turning off automatically.
Great job
2:54 "This motor seams to be waterproofed" when the bearings are rusty something isn't water proofed for sure 🙂 😂😂
good point, but then why startor is not rusted ? ;)
@@PirateWasHere As you probably already know e-motors have all a fine layer of oil when exiting the factories (that helps a little) and not to forget stators get very hot under load so you can assume is that water would anyway evaporate and dissipate fast enough to not build easy rust on it. But it's clear that this motor didn't got very wet at all, if water got inside it was marginally less then needed to damage anything beside the bearings. I love your channel
Woohoo at least someone with experience 🍻🍕 , I opened couple motors and none of them had any oil on strator & even bearings were rusted on brand new motors from inisde 😒 . BUT probably you are right in this case, boyueda was used on deeper water / mud , I always thought that water can't get inside thurogh bearing but I was wrong :). Thanks & share the knowledge, you re good in this 🚀
Hi I often follow you in your tests, I really liked the replacement of the motor sensor, I would like to ask you in the display settings of the Laotie ES18 what is the factory set number of poles ?? because in my ES18P it is "19" but I think it is wrong because in the motor there are 30 poles that correspond to 15 pairs (N-S) so the number should be 15 and not 19, I did a test and I think the motor turns better but I would like your opinion, thank you very much.
I have a kugoo s1 pro I have to replace the 3 sensor on the motor and I am not sure which one to order please if possible to give me the right sensors for the kugoo s1 pro thank you
Hi Pirate, do you maybe know what it is, when I turn my front wheel with hand (forward only) I hear some little brush sound???
I have 1 good video idea. Maybe capture ur computer screen and compare different scooters in different cost and different power categorys. I think many people would love that video! Great video btw!!! All ur videos are great!!
hi i had to change a controller but it just has to shake the engine with the gasp i have to do something with the i terface codec?
Hey, can you please show me how to connect the display throttle to the rear wheel controller? Including all the wires from display throttle to controller? Would help alot
what kind of hall sensor did you put in it?
Read from stock one
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What is the sizes of the wheel bearings?
You actually got me scared, since your Boyeda broke shortly after I ordered mine. I am glad these Chinese scooters are so modifiable/repairable with your help Pirate, I can fix it right up, if it breaks. Cannot wait to recieve mine.
Witam jaki hall sensor będzie pasował do kugoo m4?
Pirate question.....dont they have a warranty for the scooter????
no sign of water ingress, except that rusty as bearing race aye
this is usually how it looks when brand new so 🤷♂
@@PirateWasHere shit really the bearing factory probably has outside air passing thru it
well couple times I found inside the deck of customer scoot big mark of water ~20cm ( scoots where new or never used at rain ), funny thing is that it was in some cheap chinese scoot & in some pricy brand.
Me here do You live because I need my scooter fixed
I love your video's and I learned a lot from watching them. I got a question for the experts that can point me in the right direction. I have an Aerlang h6 v2 500w 48v 17.5a electric scooter and I want to make it faster. What do I need to change and do to make that happen? Do I need to change the speed controller? Battery? and or the motor? Thank you in advance!!!
I saw a video that says hit power button 8 times then should turn off . Then put it back on .switch mode to fast setting should unlock speed
and wery nice and big motor.
كيف اعرف الدراجة الكهربائية كم واط
You are such a great man💯💯💯🦾🦾🦾🦾
Thanks, very helpfull 👌
Mi koło w laotie es 18 lite drga i przyspiesza po opuszczeniu manetki gazu i również wyświetla się czasami czerwona śrubka na wyświetlaczu
Jak miałem problemy ze sterownikami to teraz przyszedł czas na silnik XD
/Patryk
By disassembling the engine, you are able to tell what the bearing is there??
yes :)
Hello i bought front and rear dual motor controllers off aliexpress yun li 60v 45a!
I connected everything all is working except front motor controller!
Hall is connected , Phase wires connected, large plug is connected, Yet i have no power to front motor what am i missing? Please help thanks!😀 There is no power switch wire for the A controller im atta loss!
is front motor twitching when you adding throttle ?
@@PirateWasHere No not twitching. I messaged FLJ about the yun li controller they sent me a picture diagram which after cloning the picture wire by wire I still could get no front motor action. I had clipped the 2 blue wires before I took a picture of my situation and to hide my hackery of cut wire I twisted them together and after a mild hulk smash moment I pulled throttle and bam fixed my issue on complete accident thanks to the scooter Gods serenity is back😆😆😆
@@PirateWasHere thanks for responding
Hi! Great review, I have LAOTIE ES18P - beast! I used to ride with no mercy in forest on downhill routes but I have burned hall sensor in back wheel. I saw video how to change it but in buoyed, so I don't know wich sensor should I buy. Can you help me, do you have a photo of the motor with no cover, or maybe do you know wich one should I buy? I would be really glad for answer! Thanks !
na halu bedziesz widziec jego nazwe i nr , kup taki sam . jesli nie ma nazy lub jest zamazana wymien na te same ktorych uzylem w boyedzie ( powinno dzialac )
@@PirateWasHere Dzięki za szybką odpowiedź, po rozebraniu silnika na hallach niema żadnych oznaczeń, są gołe, także zamawiam jak polecasz. Jesteś pewien że to te same silniki ? Po przylutowaniu sprawdzić jak na powyższym nagraniu - voltomierzem, czy działa poprawnie?
@@PirateWasHere Na allegro są wyłącznie takie: allegro.pl/oferta/czujnik-halla-41f-zamiennik-0h41-sh41-ss41f-s41-9264149337 czy podejdzie? Trochę żal nie jeździć przez miesiąc na hulajnodze :D Dzięki!
Hi Pirate, great videos, this scooter looks similar to mine (LAOTIE TI30) can you confirm if the wheels are the same? I've owned and ridden 200km (road only) now rear wheel frozen, it does not spin when doing it by hand (or power) I can feel resistance, front motor is fine. When I pull throttle real wheel jerks (sometimes) only a few millimeters, when I rotate manually it will sometimes jerk a few millimeters. I am sure its a faulty motor. I tried to remove motor but I feel like I am missing something as having removed all the screws I could not figure how to get the motor out of the wheel without possible breaking something. Any help would be appreciated or maybe do a video? thanks
Feeling resistance when manually turning the motor could be a symptom of a blown speed controller. Have you tried connecting that speed controller to the front motor and see if the motor runs?
Did you fix the issue?
i think i may have this... my scooter rear wheel no longer spins after 2620 miles...how do i fix a blown speed controller???@@LuisTeixeira
Sweet! Love to the 🦊)))
Hiya Mr P hope you are keeping safe !? i tried your method to check hall sensors with motor still on scooter and i get a reading of 4.9 on all sensors , and all go to 0 then like yours go up a bit front and back but still same problem wheel judders makes nose turns very slightly if i touch throttle but im scared to hold it as nose and i can hear vibration type sound ! any solution please ??? pretty please with cherries on top xD thank you again for awesome content ..
So it looks like one of Pirate's other sensors might be faulty as it gave a less than 4.9v reading.
Master so yours halls are ok, ofcourse check if sensors got diffrewnt reading because all 3 cant have the same reading at same time
@@PirateWasHere so i check halls again i get 4.3 black to red prong in socket ! i then put red prong in yellow i get 4.9 i turn wheel a little it goes to 0 but rises to 17.3 and as i keep turning it jumps from 4.9 to 0 to 17. ! they all do the same !!??
Hey Pirate, great video man! I am facing another problem with my motor, it seem like the central bolt which is going through the motor is bended. Can I change it or I need a new motor? Thanks!
I think is bended cause now when I ride my scooter (the same model as the one you are fixing) it is pretty obvious the wheel is pointing slightly to the left when my steering and forks are straight.
If motot shaft is bent you need to replace whole motor or find some mechanic who can help you straight it. Also its possible that arms or other frame parts are bent but motor is straight 🍻
@@PirateWasHere Thank you for the feedback!
Yes, oh Yes, Mr. Pirate, thank you for this feedback ! !
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Hi my front motor has stopped working. But when I apply power in dual mode the front wheel locks solid what could this be?
Check wires, check halls, check motor wires voltage when u spin motor , at last check controller
@@PirateWasHere thanks for your advice. Where did you buy your controller from? Can't seem to find the correct one online
@@richardbrookes9907 Links in description ;0)
Hi pirate i saw he was selling 45A controllers with LH100 throttle on AliExpress. do you think you could adapt it on laotia are 18? because I read that for controllers of 45 A it was recommended to have magnets 60mm long or on the laotia and even on the boyueda it's 45mm ... probably why your engine burned out 😅😅😅 What do you think? bye bro
My motor did not burn ... you can adapt what you like inside the deck or outside
Pirate okay okay do you think is mutch punchy contrôleurs boyueda than laotie ?
@@florianguerin643 yes but i preffer laotie ones
Pirate okay but why?
Mozna do was jakis kontakt? Potrzebuje naprawic mego skootera.
Ale ja jestem sam jedynak, co poczeba 🍕🏴☠️
Cześć Pirate. Jak dostać się do środka silnika? Odkręciłem wszystkie śruby, zdjęłem tarcze itd. Ten silikon mocno trzyma? Nie wiem czy go potgrzac, czy po prostu podważyć czymś ten dekielek ? Nie chce niczego uszkodzić 😂
pukaj mlotkiem w oske od strony gdzie nie ma kabla , jak wyjdzie okolo 5-10mm poloz motor na podlodze kablem do gory /oska w ktora pukales do dolu, przytrzymaj kolanami opone i dekiel gorny powoli wysun nie urywaja kabla
aaaa i 5zł za instrukcje lub jak w kościele " co łaska, ale nie mniej niz 100zl ) 🤣🏴☠️
You are the best on this field on RUclips
Continue the good job man+ 👏👏👏
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@@PirateWasHere cheers 🍻
Incase I needed to ask you about something in my controller and attaching some pictures, how can I communicate with you?
Thank You man!
Soon support through Utube channel ;)
Is it ok to use universal hall sensor ?
Can I use 41f sensor for my 60v 1600w motorhub?
Can i oder controler ffrom you
Sure thing , check it here pirate.ac/shop
@@PirateWasHere i can not open file how much is price of controler for boyueda?since you now wich part to buy can you buy it and send me by post il pay you.?tnx
If it is posible
@@PirateWasHere i can not open link that you send me if posible can you order
sorry I dont have it on stock but BG have it www.banggood.com/BOYUEDA-60V-45A-Rear-Drive-Brushless-Motor-Regulator-Speed-Controller-12-Tubes-For-Electric-Bicycle-E-bike-Scooter-p-1802273.html?p=UQ0316268149201309WF
so when will your shop be up and running again ?
Hopefully when he creates and advertises the Boyueda rear wheel vent so I can buy of him.
@@strawman9410 yah i have the ES 18 and brought coolers very good but i need to buy another one as i had to cut the last one off as i over locktight the last one and had to cut it off lol i stripped head of screws but at least i got them out ... but now need new coolers to replace but No shop ):
I think no, at least on this one 🍻🍕