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Always hated that show, awful art style, boring characters, nonsensical and boring world, it's also not funny whatsoever and has no storyline to follow. People also think he solo's fiction for some reason?? but he's honestly pretty weak Hyperversal fodder compared to all of fiction.
I've seen people say Teen Titans Go is like Family Guy in the sense that it's a lot better seeing clips of it rather than sitting down to watch a whole episode, and I seriously agree.
That's most bad comedy shows. They're all much funnier when the best moments are cherry-picked out of context with all the boring and annoying filler removed.
There are two incredibly annoying things that a comedy show can do that will immediately make me not like it: 1. Have all the jokes be about how terrible the show you're watching is. 2. Have all the jokes be about how terrible the people who don't like the show are. Both of these speak to insecurity on the part of the people making the show, and the second one is unbelievably petty to boot.
@@Scornfull No, it's actually pretty damn brilliant. For one thing, it bounces between genres and story types all the time, and hits each one with a bullseye that can only come from a love of the genre. It just loves being really freaking WEIRD. And they only made any of the hatedom joke episodes after, like, FIVE YEARS of people being weirdly upset about the show even existing.
@@hartthorn more like it's dumb for the sake of being dumb I watched it a lot to form a more objective opinion on it and it's mostly mindless flashy colors with butt jokes
For the most part TTG is tolerable and has its moments. The thing I hate about it the most, though, is Robin being constantly treated like crap. He was imo the most interesting character in the original series, and they just turned him into a punching bag who isn’t respected by anyone
I've said it before, ans i'll say it again, TTG would have been way more well liked of it wasn't replacing the og, and if it didn't choke out other cartoon network shows
Yeah Robin episodes in TTG are either him being a reasonable guy and the others beating him up for it or him being an absolute maniac and beating up others for it, if they were gonna ignore entire character they should at least go for the funniest option which is the latter imo
I read that the reason why WB canned the first reboot of Thundercats besides low viewership is that their partner, LEGO who made the super successful Ninjago, was coming out with its replacement called Legends of Chima which had a similar premise to Thundercats. Not only was it cheaper for WB to produce the show for Chima but LEGO is already a toy company so they didn't need to find someone else to make the merchandise. Ironically, Chima was under-performing for LEGO as Ninjago was still making bank and eventually, Chima would be phased out while the theme it was originally supposed to replace was contuning to dominate with toy sales and ratings for the show. It’s a huge shame that Thundercats 2011 was killed off because i Think it would have done well in today age of cartoons made for older audiences.
if i remember correctly it also only lost viewers during the second half of season one, because the show received complaints about being too mature or something, so they amped the humor amd dumbed down the episodes that were still in production. Just like they did with Ben 10 .
sad detail is season 2 of Thundercats 2011 had been commisioned and was to be worked on, but then got canned for Chima, Then CN made the lie it was becouse of low viewership.
I agree. But Chima deserves a comeback so it can explore regions outside of that giant sky island everyone was on. We need more animal species as well, and I wouldn't be surprised if Chima gets a cult-following in the furry community. That would be intriguing.
The biggest reason people disliked the Thundercats show was because, when they crossed over with TTG, they made fun of one of the original VAs who died.
@@mikenogen It's true. Watch the special and you'll see when they talk about the 80's one and show those characters, there's a skeleton of Panthro. Not even in like a dignified way where they're paying respects, it's just his skeleton in a dingy dungeon.
I'm gonna guess one of the (many) reasons Velma was hated before coming out was the trailer mocking adults who still watch animated shows. Because that's definitely not an insult to the very demographic you're trying to appeal to & animation in general.
9:15 no that wasn't the problem It was that Crunchyroll made it while their ENTIRE BRANDING was that the main reason to support them was to support the anime industry and their VERY FIRST original wasn't going to remotely do that while also their service being garbage and not using the money to improve it either People got pissed because it felt like embezzlement, people gave them money for a VERY specific purpose and they didn't use it for anything close to that If HGS either didn't come from Crunchyroll or was given to an ACTUAL anime studio no one would have cared about it beyond the first episode sucking
I think that was the reason that people initially got pissed, but it's undeniable that the "anti-woke" side of RUclips absolutely jumped on the hate bandwagon and made up a large chunk of the shows most vocal detractors. Not to mention, the show's creators recieved the vast majority of the backlash, despite the fact that the corporate people at Crunchyroll were the ones actually responsible for the decisions that people were angry about.
Crunchyroll is largely responsible for the mess and they're a shifty company, but I should clarify that the CR Originals were funded by an investor company. They didn't literally embezzle the money to fund them.
@@sushiroll3795tbf their own marketing campaign of "all of the writing staff are 100% female" aged like milk very quickly when the creator of the show came out as a transgender man,also didn't help that said creator put himself ij the show just for the sole purpose of going on a 2 minute long wikipedia explanation of what being trans means and nothing else,in a show that has the rating of 16+(yes believe it or not it's supposed to be an adult show),this is ignoring the fact that this marketing campaign didn't have a single second of actual animation from the show and only showed some character designs for the leads,so they shot themselves in the foot here
Honestly the main reason why I still dislike TTG is because they turned my boy Robin into a punching bag and because they just used original Teen Titans to give us false hope that they might come back only for them to promote a special that wasn't that good
@@theamazingspooderman2697 The brainrot itself wasn't much of a problem, every generation got them, but the fact that they only had 3 of them playing on repeat for so long was physically painful
For me personally (and probably for a lot of others as well), my main gripe was how the show would rub in the fact that it took up 98% of CN’s weekly schedule for months on end while all the other shows barely got any screen time.
The problem with TTG is that it overstays its welcome with the schedule (that's mostly CN's fault for not handling the schedule properly), but other than that, it's like Family Guy of Cartoon Network. It's better to watch clips than watching the entire episode.
The reason people hated High Guardian Spice so much was because Crunchyroll was already a pretty shady company who didn't pay their voice actors or Japanese licensors. So instead of improving the quality of their website or their service they made an original show nobody asked for. If I paid for their service I'd be mad too.
Nah it's more like because High Guardian Spice was just abysmal, the writing, characters, and plot were gross and just terribly done and at times it was completely nonsensical I nearly had an aneurysm watching that shit it was so bad it made generic dogshit isekais look good by comparison
I mean, people definitely could've aimed their insults at the higher-ups who were actually responsible for those decisions instead of the creative team working on the show who likely had no say whatsoever about that stuff. Also, judging from some of the most prominent types of people I saw criticizing the show online... DB's conclusion isn't very far off, I'll just say that.
@@sushiroll3795 I don't think it's fair to put all blame into studio interference, there was still a writing and directing team that came up with the source material after all. No need to make up arbitrary people to justify this travesty. The show was just bad and even the target audience didn't like it.
@@sushiroll3795 the problem is that he generalized all the people that hated the show as part of the people that hated it cuz it was made by chicks. Nah dude, the show was cheap and bad but it could've been good had they actually worked on it. Like it looks like a project a RUclipsr does with a gofundme
If the word _Hate_ was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one billionth of the _Hate_ I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. _Hate._ _Hate._
The episode "The Cape" is also pretty good too as it feels like a 2003 Teen Titans episode with a sense of humor in it (which the OG cartoon already have humor, you can thank that to Beast Boi).
@@bee-zeesoul1018 it probably wasn’t renewed it couldn’t have been season 1 premiered at the start of last year even if they instantly renewed it after the first episode (which they wouldn’t because it would take time for them to get data on how well it’s preforming and no executive would be dumb enough to green light a second season based of one’s episodes railings) one year is not enough time to make a whole new season animation takes forever especially relatively high quality ones like Velma the hate watching probably contributed to the season not being canceled but it’s more likely that it was already in production the same time as the first season
Reasons for the hate: Teen Titans Go: Original was unfinished and left on a cliffhanger. Replaced by a show with completely different tone and repeatedly made fun of the people who didn't like it, which was just insult to injury. They were fanning the flames themselves. Thundercats Roar: Same situation as before but I haven't heard about it calling out the haters so it was otherwise inoffensive. However, TTG already left a bad taste in everyone's mouth so it was doomed to be hated regardless. TMNT: Nothing was actually wrong with it. I think people were just jaded from the many disappointing reboots that came out beforehand so they just assumed it would also suck.
The drinking game for Johnny Test was absolutely insane. Like, damn, I knew they loved their whipcrack sound, but it never dawned on me just how much they used it for literally every movement.
@@samflood5631 Every time you hear the whip crack sound effect, you take a drink. Not difficult on paper, but considering it reached over 200 in the span of a 20 minute episode, it can get crazy
Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:49 Teen Titans GO! 4:10 Sponsor 5:13 The Patrick Star Show 6:19 The Powerpuff Girls (2016) 6:26 Thundercats ROAR! 7:51 Rise of The TMNT 8:17 Velma (2023) 9:03 High Guardian Spice 9:59 Uncle Grandpa 11:18 Caillou 12:23 Big Mouth 12:45 Problem Solverz 13:00 Angela Anaconda 13:40 Johnny Test 14:44 Outro
Most people were upset about High Guardian Spice because Crunchyroll made a big deal about how their service is the most ethical way to consume anime because they use your subscription money to support the industry/animation studios, then HGS was announced and Crunchyroll confirmed they were funding the entire thing. In other words Crunchyroll subscribers were paying for the production of this show. So people were upset that their subscription was being used to fund something practically no one wanted or asked for and wasn't advertised that their money would be going towards beforehand. And yeah the show not being good didn't exactly help matters. There definitely were people who hated it simply because they're anti-woke or whatever, but that had little to do with it for most people.
Uncle Grandpa was 'hated' because it came at the wrong time. Between sorta serialized cartoons that tried to be cutesy and EMOTIONAL and have PLOTS there's a silly show about some photo tiger and a talking pizza airing between kids cartoons that people took way too seriously
I see it as a weird transitional period between going from Ren & Stimpy (the "body horror" and absurdity) to Gumball. I juat find Pizza Steve a bit too grating in the first season.
_Uncle Grandpa_ is the kind of show that doesn't meant to be taken seriously. Why complaining about the lack of deep storytelling and character development to a cartoon about a reality warping old man and his pouch, an anthromorphic pizza slice, a frowned Godzilla, and a photographed tiger living in an RV is beyond me. If it came out in the 90s and 2000s, then most people would praised the show.
Yes but let’s be fair, the show released in 2013, basically at the peak or rise (I wasn’t on yt at that time) of ytp, and ytps are literally uncle grandpa bit in yt
14:28 My only theory on why Tevin is still breathing is pure endurance. It is like a character getting immune to poison by eating a little poison every day, but with drinking games.
Okay but I DID watch the 2011 Thundercats and I can say, leaving it off with the reveal that the Sword of Omens has ONE of FOUR powerful gems that Mumra is seeking was quite the cliffhanger not gonna lie
Although I enjoy the 1985 version more, I still wish they finished the 2011 version, if there's one thing I can not stand, it's a permanent cliffhanger.
A little bit of added "context" (if we can call it that) for High Spice Guardian and Big Mouth. HSG was heavily hated by anime fans because Crunchyroll was funding it themselves, meaning they were using customer money, who paid for ANIME, to make a not-anime show, and this was during the time it was widely known CR didn't pay any of their employees a good salary. Meanwhile, Big Mouth is hated because Netflix cancels everything, but somehow keeps making BM seasons (which isn't even corelated but the internet is like this)
I've heard someone say that the Velma show was caught in some weird no-mans-land where it tried to appeal to adult fans of Scooby-Doo, fans of edgy adult comedy, and _a certain third group_ where appealing to _the certain other group_ alienated it from adult comedy and long-time Scooby Doo fans, appealing to adult comedy fans alienated it from long-time Scooby Doo fans and _the certain other group_ ,and they made no attempt at appealing to Scooby Doo fans besides "look it's those characters you like so long as you stand at a distance and squint".
To be honest I just can’t stand when a cartoon or TV show addresses the criticism it gets but instead of doing it in a funny or clever way (which has been done in the past) they just insult the people who don’t like it and just act like they’re right about everything. That’s one of the main reasons why I didn’t like TTG. The fact they were still doing after so long didn’t even make me mad, it was just disappointing. And then there’s Velma. Whoever thought of that 420 joke is either super insecure that they’re working on a cartoon or just has issues regard in adults liking cartoons.
I somewhat blame Johnny Test with maybe subconsciously getting me into Green Day later in life, because they just decided to rip off American Idiot for the theme song.
@@Krizzle_ It's wierd to make a new show of a beloved retro property, then completely exclude the pre-existing fanbase, say it's not for them anymore and shit on them when they get upset
L take on the high guardian spice show, there was a plethora of context and legitimate reasons why the backlash to it was justified that you omitted entirely
He literally said at the start that these were going to be surface takes where he just watches the first episode of a show and says if he think they qualify for "worst show ever"
The fact that Diamondbolt knows who Spilling The Milk is makes me happy. Having Bolt collab with them reacting to something will be complete chaos and I would love every second of it.
@legoastronaut9775 scorched earth, though. Nothing new can really come out of CN because it's reputation has gone down the toilet since because of that, and most, if not all, of the new cartoons announced in the late 2010's/early 2020's are going to be on Toonami instead.
The high guardian spice problem wasn’t that the teaser was about women, it’s about how they never once mention anything about the show There are stupid people who hate it for the women thing, but the big problem was that they focused more on this random group of creator rather then making the show a priority , which is a very bad sign for any show
plus it was crunchy roll funding it and the point of crunchy roll was in people's eye to give money to the og anime studios that create the show they are watching, but then they announced this and people were upset that they used the money for this instead of what they promised
It’s possible there was very little to say it was a magic school show with poorly thought out world building and terrible/ rip off character designs. Olive the cat girl looked like an edgy version of Ichigo Momomiya from Tokyo Mew Mew.
The thing I learn after many years of being on the internet is that your better off watching the show for yourself and making your own judgement instead. You never know you might end up enjoying it more than you realise.
Yeah... also, avoid Mr. ENTER at all costs.... his Animation Atrocities series is nothing but baseless BS. He basically pulled his glock and shot almost every Canadian cartoon down without remorse... like, Wayside and Johnny Test weren't THAT bad... like, Reality TV and text to speech/AI generated videos deserves more hate than almost every cartoon that was reviewed by Enter.
@@shaneharrisnj3484 Canadian cartoons really got a lot of flack back in the day because Johnny Test was a Canadian show, despite being originally an American show that happened to be moving to Canada because WB Kids got shut down. I used to believe that Canada will never make good cartoons like the US, until Nitro Rad's video _"How Canadian Cartoons Shaped Me - Nitro Rad"_ changed my perspective.
Yeah. Teen Titans GO! really cared more about the DC properties than Warner Bros would ever be. Heck, there's even an Easter Egg where The Joker (disguised as Red Hood) fell into the vats of Ace Chemicals, implying that the Killing Joke is canon to the TTG lore.
Missing out on some info regarding HGS. Shortly after the show was announced, Crunchyroll had a like 40% price increase and used the show as one of the justifications for it saying they wanted to make it the best they could, only for it to come out and not only have some awful animation errors, but have dozens uses of just free Getty pngs slapped in with no attempt to make them match the show. Also dosent help when the heads of development are not only bad mouthing the majority viewer base of crunchy roll, saying their show won’t have any of the problematic behavior Japanese media is based on and it not for people who enjoy those shows, alienating people that enjoy anime, on an anime streaming site. They also got called out for saying they believe diversity is the most important thing in a writing room, only for the team to be 100% white females so they fixed that by boasting about having added a black writer. Just one mind you. Most of the hate definitely comes from people feeling like crunchy roll sold out their fan base to a group of people who actively hate the medium the site is made for, and we see just how far that got crunchy roll now
9:50 the main problem people had with hgs was the way crunchy roll was using their money to make a show rather than using it to fix there godforsaken website and not using that money to pay the people they were supposed to
My Theory for Velma S2: Velma is going to spend the entire season dodging her friends because she doesn't know who she wants to be with. While Velma is doing that she and her friends all take there own approach to solving a new mystery which will eventually lead to them coming together at the end.
@@yghostest At first I stopped watching the show after the first couple episodes but then I became so fascinated by the hate that I kept watching because I was entertained by the discussions and wanted the full context. Nobody talks about vicarious reviewer watching which is the the fact sometimes people watch things just so they can watch/read reviews or people skip the product and just watch reviews of the product.
The fact most of us had a NATURAL INSTINCT TO change the channel immediately once we saw that artstyle should be enough to believe its a crime against humanity
Hated the show, didn't think it was scary just thought everyone's faces were ugly as shit and found the story incredibly boring and useless. Others were watching Angela anaconda while I was watching Avatar The Last Airbender.
Rise TMNT is absolutely peak, its one of the coolest shows I've ever seen as an animator myself! And steven universe is also genuinely a great show too. Also congrats on 600k thats awesome!🎉
Apparently the Angela short was only made because of executive meddling. Neither the Angela crew or the movie crew wanted it in the movie but we're forced to anyway. Also the show was pretty popular back in the day and occasionally had long marathons dedicated to it.
@@mobi92392if Diamondbolt watches one more Asylum movie i think he'll end up IN an Alsum- ASYLUM, i said asylum... god am i..... stu..... NO MUST. RESIST. INSANITY
8:27 My friend told me that I was in this, and I am shocked to see this, and I am shocked to see that I am in a DiamondBolt video of all things, I will take this achievement until the day I die.
TTG was the reason I stopped watching TV at all Like it would’ve been fine for me if it wasn’t so damn over saturated. The concept was fine especially for my 11 year old brain. “Robin and friends together doing stuff”. But then it wouldn’t go away when I wanted to watch gumball ninjago regular show adventure time etc.
The High Guardian Spice segment felt disingenuous because people didn't have a problem with it being made by women, it was the fact that the people who made the show thought THAT would be enough to get people excited... while also showing no animation or anything about the ACTUAL show so it just made them look desperate like "look guys unlike those OTHER shows this one was made by 100% women so it's totally different and unique!" It also didn't help that one of the people shown in that video, the woman with glasses and shirt pink hair, had a history of making EXTREMELY misandrist comments about how all men should die. So, no, people didn't hate it because WAHMEN.
the only reason i don't like thundercats roar is because of the way they decided to treat everything that came before and it's fanbase, actually making offensive jokes, but most importantly, poking fun at the death of one of the original voice actors. Just wanna get this out here, i'm younger than Diamondbolt, so i'm not biased by nostalgia lenses or anything
That last part was actually the TTG crew's doing. The Roar showrunners have gone on record saying they had no idea the crossover was happening & that it was mainly the TTG crew's idea cause they saw the backlash the show was getting.
Yeah that kid was horrible to his baby sister, the only episode I remember of Cailou is when he yelled and told on his sister because she dared to want to spend time and play with him, and he didn’t even get punished for being a total ass to her, Cailou’s sister deserves a better family
Shows like Caillou and Johnny Test were the originators of hated cartoons. I swear from like 2010-2017, you couldn't go a day without seeing a horribly drawn "fan"art of Johnny getting brutally beaten up, tortured, or killed by beloved cartoon characters. As of now, the hate on the show has eased up a fair amount and there are a lot of people who like the show (me included). It's now fits in the category of shows that have mixed receptions. Fuck Caillou, though.
Man, I always liked Johnny Test. Can’t tell you why, I vibed with it so much I even had a nightmare with the characters in it Not a perfect show, but it doesnt need to be for me
I liked Season 1-3 Johnny Test. I grew up with both that show and Dexter's Laboratory though, so maybe it was partially me enjoying the fact that I had more Dexter's Lab-type sci-fi animation to watch.
The first two seasons were good, the third season was decent, the fourth through sixth seasons was where the over exaggerated hatred came from, but it did finally improve with the 2021 Netflix reboot.
@@RobertColbert-js2st Agreed 100%. The show had a pretty rough history behind the scenes afaik so it makes sense why it changed in quality so drastically.
7:15 especially since it aired shortly before TC Roar died after its first and only season, while Victor Courtright's other two projects under the CN/WB umbrella (a three-part Aquaman mini-series involving director of the movies James Wan and an original movie called Driftwood) both got eventually delisted and axed during WBD's great reckoning.
6:47 I watched it and fucking loved it bro. Like 9 year old me had such a massive crush on 2011 Cheetara and wanted to be one of the Kit/Kat siblings. Outside of ATLA I was OBSESSED with it.
The main complaints I’ve seen about Gradian Spice were the things of; not the fact it’s written by women, but that it seems to be one of those “stereotypical forced Western-Minority Aimed writings”, and the fact that a show that looks and feels like something Netflix would pump out was (for a period of time) forcibly shoved in the face of any and everyone who went onto Crunchyroll to watch Japanese content and not Western.
High guardian spice fucked itself over by showing the hambeasts that made it and then the hambeasts getting mad at people making fun of them and created a PR disaster
HOT TAKE Teen Titans Go started out good because it stuck to what it was meant to be which was a funny light hearted version of a super hero show. It got bad because of how the writers dealt with the hate and how the network treated it.
I actually agree with this take. I think it had a decent start, but once S2 came out, that’s when the show went downhill. I completely gave up on S4 because I just couldn’t take it anymore with all the bad writing.
Also Adam saying it's a million times more successful than the og show like CN didn't have it on 23 hours a day 7 days a week, yeah of course the numbers gonna be high if you don't show anything but it
Fr tho, when it first started, I was like, "Not what I expected, but I can vibe with this.", then it just kinda devolved into making jokes about how bad the show was and making the most random references imaginable.
The early seasons of Teen Titans GO! turns out to be just fine as the premise is supposed to be a slice of life outside their mission, but things went downhill when "Return of the Slade" got aired to the point of causing outrage among the audience and fans alike for being fooled into thinking Slade is going to come back (which is not, until in the TTG Movie). The show becomes self-aware in the most meta way possible and gets mean-spirited that this is not the same Teen Titans GO! that I watched when it first aired. Yes, it does have some good moments (like Robin hugging his dead parents in the kitchen after winning the roller derby, realizing that the Wonder Boy's origin story is now a canon event), but good moments isn't going to save from a lot of flack that the show got thrown at.
@@tenderandmoist5011 which is weird cause, he did see how CN choose to drown their schedule in TTG. That was around the era where people ignored anyone who said this was wrong with "Just change channels" as if the issue wasn't the fact CN was bloating their schedule with TTG & limiting what other shows could air.
The Johnny Test one had me rolling. I honestly forgot about it until I remembered a man’s liver went through more Alcohol in a night than an entire sobriety group
2:05 desperation, but also that those shorts were legit funny and in character. Not to mention the titans would occasionally go chibi in the original cartoon as well, and those shorts were more of that
Caillou was horrible due to how it taught kids to ask your parents to do/solve any of your issues. Many parents comaplined that their young kid(s) became less resourceful and began asking for help for the smallest things more and more. These complaints are why the show got cancelled. Angela Anaconda was, from what I recall watching after school (when nothing else was on), just generic but with the at-times unsettling/offputting art direction. Nothing in the storytelling to really pull you in. Just another average kid with a lot of imagination going to and struggling with school.
TTG and Velma are so hated that I'm surprised no one's gone on a shooting rampage or arson attack in the studios they're made in an attempt to end them.
Except that TTG has its moments (like "A Night Begins to Shine") while Velma barely have any redeeming qualities (except Velma getting ran over by a car).
@@wieldylattice3015 People left a severed pig's head and a death threat written in its blood on the doorstep of a home that they believed (falsely) to belong to a defense witness in the trial of Derek Chauvin, the police officer who killed George Floyd. I wonder why stuff like that doesn't happen to the creators of Teen Titans Go or Velma.
@@Supasmartguy I think for political stuff people feel like there's a more urgent sense of duty where they feel like something need to be done in order to make the world a better place. With cartoons I think people are just content to say it's bad entertainment and move on
Teen Titans Go and Uncle Grandpa were okay I guess, Johnny Test made me feel like a slave whenever the whip crack sound effect plays, Caillou is the most intolerable thing to ever watch, even as a kid I hated it, I refuse to watch a single episode of Big Mouth or Velma for obvious reasons, and Rise of The TMNT is really good and genuinely underrated.
How To Minimize Hate for Your Sequel/Reboot/Whatever in Five Easy Steps: 1. Produce a disappointing show in the same style as your first/earlier show(s) that also has many of the same 'woke' elements as will be in your target show. This is your controversial hate sink show. 2. Produce a second disappointing show that would have been an easy win if the writers hadn't kept messing up basic stuff. This is your nostalgia controversy show. 3. Hire people who like the franchise for your target show. 4. Make sure your target show is actually good. 5. Make sure your target show acts as love letter to the previous show rather than mocking it out of spite. And that's how we got _Star Trek: Lower Decks_ . It still got flack - it was an adult animated comedy in a series that didn't have a show like that - but it's still well regarded among the New Treks. You can also supplement major seasonal rot and a poor live action sequel for the first two points, which was what _Fairly Odd Parents: A New Wish_ did. Then you can also be mean to some parts of the old show (like Sparky - was not a fan-favourite, that Sparky).
TTG is pretty good at meta humor and it actually respects its source material with references in the show for people who read the comics. I love they got Marv Wolfman and George Perez (RIP) who both made the teen titans what they are now to have a guest appearance. The show works for kids and fans who like DC. The first movie is legitimately hilarious and it turned me around on TTG.
Problem is their output is genuine a coin flip of quality & subject matter. One episode they'll be doing a Family Guy style parody where they spell out each joke to you, & in the next they'll do an episode with a scene explaining how to commit tax fraud along with tips on how to avoid getting caught.
I’ll never forgive the human species for not only creating Velma but also hate waiting it to the point were it had enough attention for a second season.
high guardian spice deserves the hate. Crunchyroll was supposed to be gateway to a better streaming site for anime, promising to the fans that through them the the author and the animation studio gets more financial support. turns out, that was a lie and a portion of that money went to the creation of the said HGS and Ex-Arm, an awful animation adaptation that even tanked the sales of the manga/comic it was based on. so yeah, HGS hate is real and I touch grass regularly.
Thank you for typing this. This guy made alot of half-assed arguments when it came to defending it. Not all of these shows were just hated cuz "internet mean"
@@JAY_X1 yeah so far this might be one of DB's worst vids. I get that a portion of the hate the shows got were from bad people, but some of these shows were genuinely bad, lazy or absolute trash.
@@zaki7583 Even if they were from "Bad" people who cares? A bad show is a bad show. Stuff like Velma should not be getting any defense but here he goes to pull the racism card as if it invalidates the outrage for it.
@@JAY_X1 Yeah it really is his worst video. Even worst than the one where he said the fate series was hard to understand. Though that's just a me thing.
Raye blames trolls for hating his show and budget. Even though the truth was: he’s a bad at telling a good story and hired the worst person on internet.
Steven universe is one that the show is not great but isn’t horrible But when people say it’s the best CN show it’s boils my blood like obviously Clarence is the best CN sho-
The reason why Steven Universe got a lot of flack because of Lily Orchard and other "critics" who spreads bad faith and intentionally missing the point of the show's themes and story. And Steven became a butt of a joke on the Internet because... he's an all-loving hero and a pacifist? Knowing that Lily Orchard has track records of controversies and being responsible of the show's hate thanks to her infamous _"Steven Universe Sucks and Here is Why"_ video, this is what I would expect from her unbearable behaviour.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Steven is honestly a mid character to be completely honest I feel like the whole show just gives him to much I think maybe if he worked for more stuff people would like it more
@@WWNbroadcasts He's definitely far from being mid, but he's just flawed. Saying that his trauma doesn't exist because of how he reacted in _Future_ is like saying veterans in WW2 or Vietnam never have PTSD and he's just getting angry. People always give him a flack for being a pacifist, when characters like Aang or even Batman does the same. Plus, the show does give other characters some spot light other than Steven, saying that "I think" at the end implying that you don't understand the show enough means you already prove my point.
I feel like Teen Titans Go wouldn't receive nearly as much hate if CN actually continued the original Teen Titans show by giving it a new season every now and then. They teased in one of the Go movies and I'm not sure if it was a troll or not.
teen titans go more like teen titans blow
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no wayy
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Velma does not exist. That was a collective nightmare of the internet
so true
Blah blah blah it the worst thing ever.
then why is a second season coming out? we've been living in an ongoing (non-tax write off) nightmare for the last two years
@@EpicToySeries it's a digital hallucination
@@EpicToySeriesthere's a second season because the 5 people that show was made for enjoyed it.
Velma’s hatred is justified
Fr
But inescapable that you could get tired of it.
@@juliannocartagena2007 not really
Heck, even the audience wanted to give Scrappy Doo an apology.
Same for be cool Scooby doo
Uncle Grandpa being the only cartoon that managed to survive the Cartoon Network purge really shows how extremely OP'd the character truly is.
Uncle grandpa solos every verse at once, no diff
I actually did not know that uncle grandpa had his own show before seeing this vid I just thought it was a weird thing steven universe did
@@Upstartfir Lol that's hilarious
Uncle Grandpa was so good and I don't care what anyone says. My friend and I were obsessed with Pizza Steve
Always hated that show, awful art style, boring characters, nonsensical and boring world, it's also not funny whatsoever and has no storyline to follow.
People also think he solo's fiction for some reason?? but he's honestly pretty weak Hyperversal fodder compared to all of fiction.
I've seen people say Teen Titans Go is like Family Guy in the sense that it's a lot better seeing clips of it rather than sitting down to watch a whole episode, and I seriously agree.
That's most bad comedy shows. They're all much funnier when the best moments are cherry-picked out of context with all the boring and annoying filler removed.
I love how even in the episode when TTG had a fan from make a wish on, it still made jokes about how bad it was compared to the OG series
Yeah that…wasn’t really the best time for those jokes😅
um based much?
That episode made me go from not liking the show to loathing it.
I'd it went wrong well there's always Disneyland
What's TTG??
There are two incredibly annoying things that a comedy show can do that will immediately make me not like it:
1. Have all the jokes be about how terrible the show you're watching is.
2. Have all the jokes be about how terrible the people who don't like the show are.
Both of these speak to insecurity on the part of the people making the show, and the second one is unbelievably petty to boot.
basically Teen Titans GO
Yes those true but the ttg has been going on for like 11 yrs
@@Ginoooski6699 yeah because it's dirt cheap to animate and people play it for their kids when they want them to stfu not because it's any good
@@Scornfull No, it's actually pretty damn brilliant. For one thing, it bounces between genres and story types all the time, and hits each one with a bullseye that can only come from a love of the genre.
It just loves being really freaking WEIRD.
And they only made any of the hatedom joke episodes after, like, FIVE YEARS of people being weirdly upset about the show even existing.
@@hartthorn more like it's dumb for the sake of being dumb I watched it a lot to form a more objective opinion on it and it's mostly mindless flashy colors with butt jokes
For the most part TTG is tolerable and has its moments. The thing I hate about it the most, though, is Robin being constantly treated like crap. He was imo the most interesting character in the original series, and they just turned him into a punching bag who isn’t respected by anyone
I've said it before, ans i'll say it again, TTG would have been way more well liked of it wasn't replacing the og, and if it didn't choke out other cartoon network shows
Yeah Robin episodes in TTG are either him being a reasonable guy and the others beating him up for it or him being an absolute maniac and beating up others for it, if they were gonna ignore entire character they should at least go for the funniest option which is the latter imo
The joke of robin pushing Bruce Wayne’s parents into the alley to get shot in the movie is still the funniest part of the entire show to me.😂😂😂
It's not from the show it's actually from the first movie
@@justarandombluebird8222 I literally said that. lol.
My favorite joke in the show is Robin breaking Kid Flash legs right after the race starts.
The murder of Bruce's parents is now a canon event into the Teen Titans GO-verse.
The scene with the Titans trying to get away from Batman is also great.
I read that the reason why WB canned the first reboot of Thundercats besides low viewership is that their partner, LEGO who made the super successful Ninjago, was coming out with its replacement called Legends of Chima which had a similar premise to Thundercats. Not only was it cheaper for WB to produce the show for Chima but LEGO is already a toy company so they didn't need to find someone else to make the merchandise.
Ironically, Chima was under-performing for LEGO as Ninjago was still making bank and eventually, Chima would be phased out while the theme it was originally supposed to replace was contuning to dominate with toy sales and ratings for the show.
It’s a huge shame that Thundercats 2011 was killed off because i Think it would have done well in today age of cartoons made for older audiences.
if i remember correctly it also only lost viewers during the second half of season one, because the show received complaints about being too mature or something, so they amped the humor amd dumbed down the episodes that were still in production. Just like they did with Ben 10 .
sad detail is season 2 of Thundercats 2011 had been commisioned and was to be worked on, but then got canned for Chima, Then CN made the lie it was becouse of low viewership.
@@yghostest man it had everything go wrong for it despite being a solid modern day reboot
I agree. But Chima deserves a comeback so it can explore regions outside of that giant sky island everyone was on. We need more animal species as well, and I wouldn't be surprised if Chima gets a cult-following in the furry community. That would be intriguing.
Yeah. Chima is really underrated regardless of being responsible for the cancellation of the 2011 Thundercats.
The biggest reason people disliked the Thundercats show was because, when they crossed over with TTG, they made fun of one of the original VAs who died.
THEY WHAT
Disgusting
All interest in Thundercats Roar, faded away
@@mikenogen It's true. Watch the special and you'll see when they talk about the 80's one and show those characters, there's a skeleton of Panthro. Not even in like a dignified way where they're paying respects, it's just his skeleton in a dingy dungeon.
Yeah. The disrespect towards Panthro's OG voice actor is one of the reasons why Thundercats Roar doesn't last long.
TTG overtaking 95% of the Cartoon Network's schedule to overshadow shows that debuted and ended pissed people off (including me)
I hear you. Hogging the TV with just one show all day and night is just torture to everyone.
@@dreamguardian8320except Cartoon Network who thought it was completely justified
It overshadowed the final episode of Regular Show, which was genuinely incredible and heart-wrenching
I still haven’t forgiven TTG for that
I'm gonna guess one of the (many) reasons Velma was hated before coming out was the trailer mocking adults who still watch animated shows. Because that's definitely not an insult to the very demographic you're trying to appeal to & animation in general.
Yup , the trailer just mocked the og fans lf Scooby doo directly...
Si ha nadie le gustó que le cambiarán la raza a los personajes
@@vivekkparasharand Scooby wasn’t even in it from what I know
@@glicthmonkey0
Yes no scooby doo but somehow only scrappy doo was a serial killer in season 2 😂
Velma’s raceswapping was a point of criticism because it proved she was Mindy’s self-insert, aside from wokeness.
9:15 no that wasn't the problem
It was that Crunchyroll made it while their ENTIRE BRANDING was that the main reason to support them was to support the anime industry and their VERY FIRST original wasn't going to remotely do that while also their service being garbage and not using the money to improve it either
People got pissed because it felt like embezzlement, people gave them money for a VERY specific purpose and they didn't use it for anything close to that
If HGS either didn't come from Crunchyroll or was given to an ACTUAL anime studio no one would have cared about it beyond the first episode sucking
I think that was the reason that people initially got pissed, but it's undeniable that the "anti-woke" side of RUclips absolutely jumped on the hate bandwagon and made up a large chunk of the shows most vocal detractors.
Not to mention, the show's creators recieved the vast majority of the backlash, despite the fact that the corporate people at Crunchyroll were the ones actually responsible for the decisions that people were angry about.
Crunchyroll is largely responsible for the mess and they're a shifty company, but I should clarify that the CR Originals were funded by an investor company. They didn't literally embezzle the money to fund them.
@@sushiroll3795tbf their own marketing campaign of "all of the writing staff are 100% female" aged like milk very quickly when the creator of the show came out as a transgender man,also didn't help that said creator put himself ij the show just for the sole purpose of going on a 2 minute long wikipedia explanation of what being trans means and nothing else,in a show that has the rating of 16+(yes believe it or not it's supposed to be an adult show),this is ignoring the fact that this marketing campaign didn't have a single second of actual animation from the show and only showed some character designs for the leads,so they shot themselves in the foot here
@@sushiroll3795 i mean the show was garbage
A lot of bad elements that turnes HGS in the perfect example about what NOT to do when creating a show
@sushiroll3795 One of the creators is a literal misandrist, don't try to white knight her just because she's a woman and LGBT.
Honestly the main reason why I still dislike TTG is because they turned my boy Robin into a punching bag and because they just used original Teen Titans to give us false hope that they might come back only for them to promote a special that wasn't that good
don't forget the brainrot jokes
@@theamazingspooderman2697 The brainrot itself wasn't much of a problem, every generation got them, but the fact that they only had 3 of them playing on repeat for so long was physically painful
@@randomstormtrooper3345 yeah that's what I meant specifically, felt so bad for Robin and I ain't even that big of a Teen Titans fan
For me personally (and probably for a lot of others as well), my main gripe was how the show would rub in the fact that it took up 98% of CN’s weekly schedule for months on end while all the other shows barely got any screen time.
The problem with TTG is that it overstays its welcome with the schedule (that's mostly CN's fault for not handling the schedule properly), but other than that, it's like Family Guy of Cartoon Network. It's better to watch clips than watching the entire episode.
The reason people hated High Guardian Spice so much was because Crunchyroll was already a pretty shady company who didn't pay their voice actors or Japanese licensors. So instead of improving the quality of their website or their service they made an original show nobody asked for. If I paid for their service I'd be mad too.
Nah it's more like because High Guardian Spice was just abysmal, the writing, characters, and plot were gross and just terribly done and at times it was completely nonsensical
I nearly had an aneurysm watching that shit it was so bad it made generic dogshit isekais look good by comparison
Guardians getting high on Spice was also hated because a show with an animation style similar to the Legend of Korra was scrapped for it to be made.
I mean, people definitely could've aimed their insults at the higher-ups who were actually responsible for those decisions instead of the creative team working on the show who likely had no say whatsoever about that stuff.
Also, judging from some of the most prominent types of people I saw criticizing the show online... DB's conclusion isn't very far off, I'll just say that.
@@sushiroll3795 I don't think it's fair to put all blame into studio interference, there was still a writing and directing team that came up with the source material after all.
No need to make up arbitrary people to justify this travesty. The show was just bad and even the target audience didn't like it.
@@sushiroll3795 the problem is that he generalized all the people that hated the show as part of the people that hated it cuz it was made by chicks. Nah dude, the show was cheap and bad but it could've been good had they actually worked on it. Like it looks like a project a RUclipsr does with a gofundme
I could tell it was originally going to be titled “The most overhated cartoons of all time.” But Velma was in it and that show’s hate is justified.
_Hate._
Let me tell you just how much I've come to _hate_ Mindy Kaling's Velma since I began to live...
There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex.
If the word _Hate_ was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one billionth of the _Hate_ I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. _Hate._ _Hate._
TTG gave birth to "The Night Begins To Shine," so I think it was worth all of the pain in the end.
I couldn't believe that was original at first, absolute banger
True. I actually do like that song. More specifically the fall out boy version.
One of the few good things that came from that show
That’s probably like my favorite episode of the entire show
The episode "The Cape" is also pretty good too as it feels like a 2003 Teen Titans episode with a sense of humor in it (which the OG cartoon already have humor, you can thank that to Beast Boi).
Velma getting renewed for a second season is fucked up. And they cancelled other shows.
I don’t think it was renewed I think the studio green lit two seasons at the start
What is this world coming to?
Velma got renewed because everyone was hate watching it.
If you want a show to go away you have to stop watching it.
@@bee-zeesoul1018 it probably wasn’t renewed it couldn’t have been season 1 premiered at the start of last year even if they instantly renewed it after the first episode (which they wouldn’t because it would take time for them to get data on how well it’s preforming and no executive would be dumb enough to green light a second season based of one’s episodes railings) one year is not enough time to make a whole new season animation takes forever especially relatively high quality ones like Velma the hate watching probably contributed to the season not being canceled but it’s more likely that it was already in production the same time as the first season
@@bee-zeesoul1018 Right.
Reasons for the hate:
Teen Titans Go: Original was unfinished and left on a cliffhanger. Replaced by a show with completely different tone and repeatedly made fun of the people who didn't like it, which was just insult to injury. They were fanning the flames themselves.
Thundercats Roar: Same situation as before but I haven't heard about it calling out the haters so it was otherwise inoffensive. However, TTG already left a bad taste in everyone's mouth so it was doomed to be hated regardless.
TMNT: Nothing was actually wrong with it. I think people were just jaded from the many disappointing reboots that came out beforehand so they just assumed it would also suck.
Teen Titans was finished. It was kinda the point to end on a cliff hanger, pretty sure Cyborg’s voice actor has talked about this before.
Velma?
So the 3 points is TTG XD
@@eldesconocidosenork5981Teen Titans Go was the one that opened the Pandora’s box basically.
@@dwainsimmons3447Velma was a straight up insult to everyone who grew up with Scooby Doo.
The drinking game for Johnny Test was absolutely insane. Like, damn, I knew they loved their whipcrack sound, but it never dawned on me just how much they used it for literally every movement.
I legitimately thought DiamondBolt was piping some in himself until I checked myself. It's actually quite hilarious once your cognisant of it.
What were the rules of the Johnny Test Drinking Game? Same goes for the Teen Titans Go drinking game?
@@samflood5631 Every time you hear the whip crack sound effect, you take a drink. Not difficult on paper, but considering it reached over 200 in the span of a 20 minute episode, it can get crazy
@@PrincessMatrix Oh, right. And how many died from that drinking game due to Liver Failure or Alcohol Poisoning?
@@samflood5631 I mean, Tevin survived lol. Granted, he made the very wise choice to take sips of hard lemonade, rather than shots
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:49 Teen Titans GO!
4:10 Sponsor
5:13 The Patrick Star Show
6:19 The Powerpuff Girls (2016)
6:26 Thundercats ROAR!
7:51 Rise of The TMNT
8:17 Velma (2023)
9:03 High Guardian Spice
9:59 Uncle Grandpa
11:18 Caillou
12:23 Big Mouth
12:45 Problem Solverz
13:00 Angela Anaconda
13:40 Johnny Test
14:44 Outro
Thank u
Most people were upset about High Guardian Spice because Crunchyroll made a big deal about how their service is the most ethical way to consume anime because they use your subscription money to support the industry/animation studios, then HGS was announced and Crunchyroll confirmed they were funding the entire thing. In other words Crunchyroll subscribers were paying for the production of this show. So people were upset that their subscription was being used to fund something practically no one wanted or asked for and wasn't advertised that their money would be going towards beforehand. And yeah the show not being good didn't exactly help matters. There definitely were people who hated it simply because they're anti-woke or whatever, but that had little to do with it for most people.
Thats the most twitter reason to hate something.
@ No it is not. Nobody likes being lied to. You could very well compare it to charity fraud.
Uncle Grandpa was 'hated' because it came at the wrong time. Between sorta serialized cartoons that tried to be cutesy and EMOTIONAL and have PLOTS there's a silly show about some photo tiger and a talking pizza airing between kids cartoons that people took way too seriously
I see it as a weird transitional period between going from Ren & Stimpy (the "body horror" and absurdity) to Gumball. I juat find Pizza Steve a bit too grating in the first season.
_Uncle Grandpa_ is the kind of show that doesn't meant to be taken seriously. Why complaining about the lack of deep storytelling and character development to a cartoon about a reality warping old man and his pouch, an anthromorphic pizza slice, a frowned Godzilla, and a photographed tiger living in an RV is beyond me.
If it came out in the 90s and 2000s, then most people would praised the show.
I think it just looks ugly
@@poweroffriendship2.0The cultural zeitgeist.
Yes but let’s be fair, the show released in 2013, basically at the peak or rise (I wasn’t on yt at that time) of ytp, and ytps are literally uncle grandpa bit in yt
14:28
My only theory on why Tevin is still breathing is pure endurance. It is like a character getting immune to poison by eating a little poison every day, but with drinking games.
Okay but I DID watch the 2011 Thundercats and I can say, leaving it off with the reveal that the Sword of Omens has ONE of FOUR powerful gems that Mumra is seeking was quite the cliffhanger not gonna lie
So about the Thundercats 2011...people did watch it. The network just moved it to a time slot where people COULDNT watch it.
I remember loving it too. It was such a cool looking show with amazing animation and art style
@@zaki7583 I remember coming home from school and the tail end of it being over
Although I enjoy the 1985 version more, I still wish they finished the 2011 version, if there's one thing I can not stand, it's a permanent cliffhanger.
A little bit of added "context" (if we can call it that) for High Spice Guardian and Big Mouth. HSG was heavily hated by anime fans because Crunchyroll was funding it themselves, meaning they were using customer money, who paid for ANIME, to make a not-anime show, and this was during the time it was widely known CR didn't pay any of their employees a good salary. Meanwhile, Big Mouth is hated because Netflix cancels everything, but somehow keeps making BM seasons (which isn't even corelated but the internet is like this)
big mouth is a good show though
I've heard someone say that the Velma show was caught in some weird no-mans-land where it tried to appeal to adult fans of Scooby-Doo, fans of edgy adult comedy, and _a certain third group_ where appealing to _the certain other group_ alienated it from adult comedy and long-time Scooby Doo fans, appealing to adult comedy fans alienated it from long-time Scooby Doo fans and _the certain other group_ ,and they made no attempt at appealing to Scooby Doo fans besides "look it's those characters you like so long as you stand at a distance and squint".
To be honest I just can’t stand when a cartoon or TV show addresses the criticism it gets but instead of doing it in a funny or clever way (which has been done in the past) they just insult the people who don’t like it and just act like they’re right about everything. That’s one of the main reasons why I didn’t like TTG. The fact they were still doing after so long didn’t even make me mad, it was just disappointing. And then there’s Velma. Whoever thought of that 420 joke is either super insecure that they’re working on a cartoon or just has issues regard in adults liking cartoons.
I somewhat blame Johnny Test with maybe subconsciously getting me into Green Day later in life, because they just decided to rip off American Idiot for the theme song.
THEY DID
I never get point of making downgraded version of something good and expecting it to be liked by fans of original.
Money
But that’s the thing, they’re not made for fans of the original, and those fans are the ones whining about their precious baby being replaced
@@Krizzle_ It's wierd to make a new show of a beloved retro property, then completely exclude the pre-existing fanbase, say it's not for them anymore and shit on them when they get upset
Me : I think Uncle Granpa was
Good
People: "Grabing Pitchforks and Torches"
Uncle Grandpa was PEAK
Uncle grandpa was actually good
Say what you want about him, but Uncle Grandpa is the OP.
No it wasn't
I remember when this came on it replaced better shows
I've barely seen any people complain about UG or Clarence in years.
L take on the high guardian spice show, there was a plethora of context and legitimate reasons why the backlash to it was justified that you omitted entirely
He literally said at the start that these were going to be surface takes where he just watches the first episode of a show and says if he think they qualify for "worst show ever"
The fact that Diamondbolt knows who Spilling The Milk is makes me happy. Having Bolt collab with them reacting to something will be complete chaos and I would love every second of it.
One day… one day… it will happen
I just don't like that CN keeps play TTG non-stop like it's Spongebob. Which is a whole other thing altogether.
I hear you.
I mean to be fair the schedule has improved so cant really use that excuse anymore
@legoastronaut9775 scorched earth, though. Nothing new can really come out of CN because it's reputation has gone down the toilet since because of that, and most, if not all, of the new cartoons announced in the late 2010's/early 2020's are going to be on Toonami instead.
The high guardian spice problem wasn’t that the teaser was about women, it’s about how they never once mention anything about the show
There are stupid people who hate it for the women thing, but the big problem was that they focused more on this random group of creator rather then making the show a priority , which is a very bad sign for any show
plus it was crunchy roll funding it and the point of crunchy roll was in people's eye to give money to the og anime studios that create the show they are watching, but then they announced this and people were upset that they used the money for this instead of what they promised
I'm pretty sure Crunchyroll jist needed them to make a trailer even though the studio was like, no where close to having a presentable product
Yup, hell a lot of women complained about the trailer too
Same with velma it was too man bad and too left leaning
It’s possible there was very little to say it was a magic school show with poorly thought out world building and terrible/ rip off character designs.
Olive the cat girl looked like an edgy version of Ichigo Momomiya from Tokyo Mew Mew.
“Cartoons made for children”
Proceeds to show Velma and Big Mouth
Don’t forget HGS. They’re trying to make a kid show so I’ve heard. But turned it to an adult cartoon, but not good. MLP has mature content than this.
Big mouth is literally about teens struggling with puberty. Who do you think it was aimed at? Probably teenagers.
@@infiniteoctopaw teenagers are not kids
The thing I learn after many years of being on the internet is that your better off watching the show for yourself and making your own judgement instead.
You never know you might end up enjoying it more than you realise.
Yeah... also, avoid Mr. ENTER at all costs.... his Animation Atrocities series is nothing but baseless BS. He basically pulled his glock and shot almost every Canadian cartoon down without remorse... like, Wayside and Johnny Test weren't THAT bad... like, Reality TV and text to speech/AI generated videos deserves more hate than almost every cartoon that was reviewed by Enter.
@@shaneharrisnj3484 Canadian cartoons really got a lot of flack back in the day because Johnny Test was a Canadian show, despite being originally an American show that happened to be moving to Canada because WB Kids got shut down.
I used to believe that Canada will never make good cartoons like the US, until Nitro Rad's video _"How Canadian Cartoons Shaped Me - Nitro Rad"_ changed my perspective.
Best part about Teen Titans Go? They actually acknowledged the SnyderVerse more than Warner Brothers.
Yeah. Teen Titans GO! really cared more about the DC properties than Warner Bros would ever be. Heck, there's even an Easter Egg where The Joker (disguised as Red Hood) fell into the vats of Ace Chemicals, implying that the Killing Joke is canon to the TTG lore.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 One of the darkest storylines in a kids' show.
"Wake up babe, new Diamondbolt video dropped"
Velma should've never been made and i want it to get deleted from humanity
11:51 made me spit my water out of my mouth
I spit coffee out
“Good”
Missing out on some info regarding HGS. Shortly after the show was announced, Crunchyroll had a like 40% price increase and used the show as one of the justifications for it saying they wanted to make it the best they could, only for it to come out and not only have some awful animation errors, but have dozens uses of just free Getty pngs slapped in with no attempt to make them match the show. Also dosent help when the heads of development are not only bad mouthing the majority viewer base of crunchy roll, saying their show won’t have any of the problematic behavior Japanese media is based on and it not for people who enjoy those shows, alienating people that enjoy anime, on an anime streaming site. They also got called out for saying they believe diversity is the most important thing in a writing room, only for the team to be 100% white females so they fixed that by boasting about having added a black writer. Just one mind you. Most of the hate definitely comes from people feeling like crunchy roll sold out their fan base to a group of people who actively hate the medium the site is made for, and we see just how far that got crunchy roll now
9:50 the main problem people had with hgs was the way crunchy roll was using their money to make a show rather than using it to fix there godforsaken website and not using that money to pay the people they were supposed to
3:26 BRO BEAST BOY LOOKIN LIKE MUSCLE MAN FROM REGULAR SHOW!😂
“You know who else can transform into animals?”
@@rickyrackey7930MY MOM
i have Johnny Test PTSD... everywhere i look, everyone doing something, the back of my mind it is just "whipcrack sound effect"
uncle grandpa was weird as fuck to me, the show made me feel like a acid trip or drugs, also the bear from that show is a menace.
To be fair, that was kind of the point
7:29 its kinda funny how this is layered and can also be applied to go itself, and maybe just other reboots in general. Pretty crazy
My Theory for Velma S2:
Velma is going to spend the entire season dodging her friends because she doesn't know who she wants to be with.
While Velma is doing that she and her friends all take there own approach to solving a new mystery which will eventually lead to them coming together at the end.
did you unironically watch that show?
And they'll prob make "self aware jokes" on how hated the show is
Bud is from the future
@@yghostest At first I stopped watching the show after the first couple episodes but then I became so fascinated by the hate that I kept watching because I was entertained by the discussions and wanted the full context.
Nobody talks about vicarious reviewer watching which is the the fact sometimes people watch things just so they can watch/read reviews or people skip the product and just watch reviews of the product.
Angela anaconda wasnt necessarily bad, it was just nightmare fuel (havent seen the show)
I think the scare factor is grossly overblown. I saw it as a kid and I wasn’t scared. It’s really just black and white pictures of faces.
The fact most of us had a NATURAL INSTINCT TO change the channel immediately once we saw that artstyle should be enough to believe its a crime against humanity
Keep in mind, the show started off as one of the skits of Kablam! Let that sink in.
Hated the show, didn't think it was scary just thought everyone's faces were ugly as shit and found the story incredibly boring and useless.
Others were watching Angela anaconda while I was watching Avatar The Last Airbender.
Eh, the show was pretty mid.
Rise TMNT is absolutely peak, its one of the coolest shows I've ever seen as an animator myself! And steven universe is also genuinely a great show too. Also congrats on 600k thats awesome!🎉
Can’t believe big mouth is still going when my name is earl got cancelled after season 4 :(
what do they have to do with each other
@@deatheater6222 nothing but I like my name is earl and I don’t like big mouth :(
Inside job... You will be missed
Rest in Peace Final Space
@@lilyofthatvelleyyup
Apparently the Angela short was only made because of executive meddling. Neither the Angela crew or the movie crew wanted it in the movie but we're forced to anyway. Also the show was pretty popular back in the day and occasionally had long marathons dedicated to it.
Pls review bad movies again
Yeah I miss them
Asylum movies to be precise
@@mobi92392if Diamondbolt watches one more Asylum movie i think he'll end up IN an Alsum- ASYLUM, i said asylum... god am i..... stu..... NO
MUST. RESIST. INSANITY
literally the previous video
@@DiamondBolt you where not having it today huh
8:27 My friend told me that I was in this, and I am shocked to see this, and I am shocked to see that I am in a DiamondBolt video of all things, I will take this achievement until the day I die.
Congratulations
Congrats dude
Congrats
TTG was the reason I stopped watching TV at all
Like it would’ve been fine for me if it wasn’t so damn over saturated. The concept was fine especially for my 11 year old brain. “Robin and friends together doing stuff”. But then it wouldn’t go away when I wanted to watch gumball ninjago regular show adventure time etc.
Same
Velma season 2 doesn't stand a chance against Knuckles the Echidna
Thundercats roar should have been a RUclips parody series or something and it would have been much less hated
Or better yet, Thundercats Roar should never have been created at all.
10:51 I used to watch Steven universe and thinking “hey this is a good show” but when the finale season came out I was like “the fuck?”
The High Guardian Spice segment felt disingenuous because people didn't have a problem with it being made by women, it was the fact that the people who made the show thought THAT would be enough to get people excited... while also showing no animation or anything about the ACTUAL show so it just made them look desperate like "look guys unlike those OTHER shows this one was made by 100% women so it's totally different and unique!"
It also didn't help that one of the people shown in that video, the woman with glasses and shirt pink hair, had a history of making EXTREMELY misandrist comments about how all men should die.
So, no, people didn't hate it because WAHMEN.
Tell that to the 8million anti-woke video that was being dumped out at the time farming ever word spoken by everyone involved to invent a gotcha.
There are legitimate problems with the show, but pretending that there wasn't a sizable sexist hatedom is equally disingenuous.
the only reason i don't like thundercats roar is because of the way they decided to treat everything that came before and it's fanbase, actually making offensive jokes, but most importantly, poking fun at the death of one of the original voice actors. Just wanna get this out here, i'm younger than Diamondbolt, so i'm not biased by nostalgia lenses or anything
That last part was actually the TTG crew's doing. The Roar showrunners have gone on record saying they had no idea the crossover was happening & that it was mainly the TTG crew's idea cause they saw the backlash the show was getting.
At least the Diamondbolt show is not bad!
The fact that shows like Teen titans go and Velma keep getting reviewed despite all common logic just makes me worry for the future of humanity.
3:57.Accurate Depiction Of Hollywood
2:46 fucking hell I remember cartoon network playing this non-stop during December of 2017
11:27 Everyone and there mother HATED Cailou and that's a fact
I'm starting to see why.
Yeah that kid was horrible to his baby sister, the only episode I remember of Cailou is when he yelled and told on his sister because she dared to want to spend time and play with him, and he didn’t even get punished for being a total ass to her, Cailou’s sister deserves a better family
Shows like Caillou and Johnny Test were the originators of hated cartoons. I swear from like 2010-2017, you couldn't go a day without seeing a horribly drawn "fan"art of Johnny getting brutally beaten up, tortured, or killed by beloved cartoon characters.
As of now, the hate on the show has eased up a fair amount and there are a lot of people who like the show (me included). It's now fits in the category of shows that have mixed receptions.
Fuck Caillou, though.
Man, I always liked Johnny Test. Can’t tell you why, I vibed with it so much I even had a nightmare with the characters in it
Not a perfect show, but it doesnt need to be for me
I liked Season 1-3 Johnny Test. I grew up with both that show and Dexter's Laboratory though, so maybe it was partially me enjoying the fact that I had more Dexter's Lab-type sci-fi animation to watch.
The first two seasons were good, the third season was decent, the fourth through sixth seasons was where the over exaggerated hatred came from, but it did finally improve with the 2021 Netflix reboot.
@@RobertColbert-js2st I actually liked the third season the most, contrary to popular belief
@@RobertColbert-js2st Agreed 100%. The show had a pretty rough history behind the scenes afaik so it makes sense why it changed in quality so drastically.
The meta jokes in Teen Titans Go are probably the best thing about the show
7:15 especially since it aired shortly before TC Roar died after its first and only season, while Victor Courtright's other two projects under the CN/WB umbrella (a three-part Aquaman mini-series involving director of the movies James Wan and an original movie called Driftwood) both got eventually delisted and axed during WBD's great reckoning.
also Beast Boy would DEFINITELY hate Mr. Bean
6:47 I watched it and fucking loved it bro.
Like 9 year old me had such a massive crush on 2011 Cheetara and wanted to be one of the Kit/Kat siblings. Outside of ATLA I was OBSESSED with it.
The main complaints I’ve seen about Gradian Spice were the things of; not the fact it’s written by women, but that it seems to be one of those “stereotypical forced Western-Minority Aimed writings”, and the fact that a show that looks and feels like something Netflix would pump out was (for a period of time) forcibly shoved in the face of any and everyone who went onto Crunchyroll to watch Japanese content and not Western.
Jonny Test was one of my favorite shows as a kid
As a kid you don't generally notice shows reusing sound effects
As an adult you do and you suffer
I noticed all the whip sounds as a kid
High guardian spice fucked itself over by showing the hambeasts that made it and then the hambeasts getting mad at people making fun of them and created a PR disaster
6:00 Also that quote was taken from an interview from before the Truth or Square special premiered, which of course, taken WAY OUT OF PROPORTION
Well, x-men 97 did the exactly same as the old 90's series and everyone liked, soooo... maybe fans don't want something new all the time.
3:37 Today I found out that TTG came out on my birthday.
Is it possible to change the day you were born?
Nah
It literally came out in children's day ☠️☠️☠️
6:34 no one gives a shit about Thundercats anymore thanks to these people
I still enjoy Thundercats and I'll never watch that crude comedy version.
HOT TAKE
Teen Titans Go started out good because it stuck to what it was meant to be which was a funny light hearted version of a super hero show.
It got bad because of how the writers dealt with the hate and how the network treated it.
I actually agree with this take. I think it had a decent start, but once S2 came out, that’s when the show went downhill. I completely gave up on S4 because I just couldn’t take it anymore with all the bad writing.
Also Adam saying it's a million times more successful than the og show like CN didn't have it on 23 hours a day 7 days a week, yeah of course the numbers gonna be high if you don't show anything but it
Fr tho, when it first started, I was like, "Not what I expected, but I can vibe with this.", then it just kinda devolved into making jokes about how bad the show was and making the most random references imaginable.
The early seasons of Teen Titans GO! turns out to be just fine as the premise is supposed to be a slice of life outside their mission, but things went downhill when "Return of the Slade" got aired to the point of causing outrage among the audience and fans alike for being fooled into thinking Slade is going to come back (which is not, until in the TTG Movie).
The show becomes self-aware in the most meta way possible and gets mean-spirited that this is not the same Teen Titans GO! that I watched when it first aired. Yes, it does have some good moments (like Robin hugging his dead parents in the kitchen after winning the roller derby, realizing that the Wonder Boy's origin story is now a canon event), but good moments isn't going to save from a lot of flack that the show got thrown at.
@@tenderandmoist5011 which is weird cause, he did see how CN choose to drown their schedule in TTG. That was around the era where people ignored anyone who said this was wrong with "Just change channels" as if the issue wasn't the fact CN was bloating their schedule with TTG & limiting what other shows could air.
The Johnny Test one had me rolling. I honestly forgot about it until I remembered a man’s liver went through more Alcohol in a night than an entire sobriety group
7:03 Hey man don't disrespect Tumblr web comics some of those look genuinely amazing
1:07 of course it was one of the best it was animated by the same guy who animated transformers animated and Ben 10 alien force
2:05 desperation, but also that those shorts were legit funny and in character. Not to mention the titans would occasionally go chibi in the original cartoon as well, and those shorts were more of that
Caillou was horrible due to how it taught kids to ask your parents to do/solve any of your issues. Many parents comaplined that their young kid(s) became less resourceful and began asking for help for the smallest things more and more. These complaints are why the show got cancelled.
Angela Anaconda was, from what I recall watching after school (when nothing else was on), just generic but with the at-times unsettling/offputting art direction. Nothing in the storytelling to really pull you in. Just another average kid with a lot of imagination going to and struggling with school.
TTG and Velma are so hated that I'm surprised no one's gone on a shooting rampage or arson attack in the studios they're made in an attempt to end them.
Because we aren’t the bad guys??? Sure we despise them but it’s not like they’ve committed literal war crimes
Except that TTG has its moments (like "A Night Begins to Shine") while Velma barely have any redeeming qualities (except Velma getting ran over by a car).
TTG had a few redeeming qualities. Velma is absolute sewage.
@@wieldylattice3015 People left a severed pig's head and a death threat written in its blood on the doorstep of a home that they believed (falsely) to belong to a defense witness in the trial of Derek Chauvin, the police officer who killed George Floyd. I wonder why stuff like that doesn't happen to the creators of Teen Titans Go or Velma.
@@Supasmartguy I think for political stuff people feel like there's a more urgent sense of duty where they feel like something need to be done in order to make the world a better place. With cartoons I think people are just content to say it's bad entertainment and move on
3:08 and you know what else is massive?
-Ninja
Glenn Howerton being the voice of Fred is an insult to Fred and the talent of Glenn Howerton
Teen Titans Go and Uncle Grandpa were okay I guess, Johnny Test made me feel like a slave whenever the whip crack sound effect plays, Caillou is the most intolerable thing to ever watch, even as a kid I hated it, I refuse to watch a single episode of Big Mouth or Velma for obvious reasons, and Rise of The TMNT is really good and genuinely underrated.
Yo spilling the milk reference!! I love those guys 8:30
Same
I like how it was Eden's clip bcz he is bored at the start of almost every show
Eden scream in pain
Of course it's Eden too lmao
Can’t wait for their reaction to Season 2😂
How To Minimize Hate for Your Sequel/Reboot/Whatever in Five Easy Steps:
1. Produce a disappointing show in the same style as your first/earlier show(s) that also has many of the same 'woke' elements as will be in your target show. This is your controversial hate sink show.
2. Produce a second disappointing show that would have been an easy win if the writers hadn't kept messing up basic stuff. This is your nostalgia controversy show.
3. Hire people who like the franchise for your target show.
4. Make sure your target show is actually good.
5. Make sure your target show acts as love letter to the previous show rather than mocking it out of spite.
And that's how we got _Star Trek: Lower Decks_ . It still got flack - it was an adult animated comedy in a series that didn't have a show like that - but it's still well regarded among the New Treks.
You can also supplement major seasonal rot and a poor live action sequel for the first two points, which was what _Fairly Odd Parents: A New Wish_ did. Then you can also be mean to some parts of the old show (like Sparky - was not a fan-favourite, that Sparky).
TTG is pretty good at meta humor and it actually respects its source material with references in the show for people who read the comics. I love they got Marv Wolfman and George Perez (RIP) who both made the teen titans what they are now to have a guest appearance. The show works for kids and fans who like DC. The first movie is legitimately hilarious and it turned me around on TTG.
Problem is their output is genuine a coin flip of quality & subject matter. One episode they'll be doing a Family Guy style parody where they spell out each joke to you, & in the next they'll do an episode with a scene explaining how to commit tax fraud along with tips on how to avoid getting caught.
@@electricfeverx976 Not gonna lie, I think Yoshi should be listening to the Titan's advice on not getting caught red handed with the tax fraud.
I’ll never forgive the human species for not only creating Velma but also hate waiting it to the point were it had enough attention for a second season.
Its second season was approved during production of the first, so we’ll only really be able to tell if that’s true if they get a third
high guardian spice deserves the hate. Crunchyroll was supposed to be gateway to a better streaming site for anime, promising to the fans that through them the the author and the animation studio gets more financial support. turns out, that was a lie and a portion of that money went to the creation of the said HGS and Ex-Arm, an awful animation adaptation that even tanked the sales of the manga/comic it was based on.
so yeah, HGS hate is real and I touch grass regularly.
Thank you for typing this. This guy made alot of half-assed arguments when it came to defending it. Not all of these shows were just hated cuz "internet mean"
@@JAY_X1 yeah so far this might be one of DB's worst vids. I get that a portion of the hate the shows got were from bad people, but some of these shows were genuinely bad, lazy or absolute trash.
@@zaki7583 Even if they were from "Bad" people who cares? A bad show is a bad show. Stuff like Velma should not be getting any defense but here he goes to pull the racism card as if it invalidates the outrage for it.
@@JAY_X1 Yeah it really is his worst video. Even worst than the one where he said the fate series was hard to understand. Though that's just a me thing.
Raye blames trolls for hating his show and budget. Even though the truth was: he’s a bad at telling a good story and hired the worst person on internet.
14:08 There isn't a laugh track in the big bang theory, since every time the laugh is different. For example someone laughs more than someone else
Do you think they actullaly got a live audiance on set?
Steven universe is one that the show is not great but isn’t horrible
But when people say it’s the best CN show it’s boils my blood like obviously Clarence is the best CN sho-
Both Clarence and SU were decent shows. The problem people had with Clarence is the creator himself
(Also the bad art and toilet jokes)
The reason why Steven Universe got a lot of flack because of Lily Orchard and other "critics" who spreads bad faith and intentionally missing the point of the show's themes and story. And Steven became a butt of a joke on the Internet because... he's an all-loving hero and a pacifist?
Knowing that Lily Orchard has track records of controversies and being responsible of the show's hate thanks to her infamous _"Steven Universe Sucks and Here is Why"_ video, this is what I would expect from her unbearable behaviour.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Steven is honestly a mid character to be completely honest
I feel like the whole show just gives him to much I think maybe if he worked for more stuff people would like it more
@@Es_gee Clarence was superior
@@WWNbroadcasts He's definitely far from being mid, but he's just flawed. Saying that his trauma doesn't exist because of how he reacted in _Future_ is like saying veterans in WW2 or Vietnam never have PTSD and he's just getting angry. People always give him a flack for being a pacifist, when characters like Aang or even Batman does the same.
Plus, the show does give other characters some spot light other than Steven, saying that "I think" at the end implying that you don't understand the show enough means you already prove my point.
00:13 WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANNOYING ORANGE IS THE BEST PIECE OF MEDIA PUT TO A SCREEN
No, it isn’t. It’s lackluster. It is boring unoriginal. It is honestly the worst thing we’ve ever gotten from the annoying orange IP.
@@Luciferdream1981I just have a sneaking suspicion that it might be satire 🤔🤔🤔
Hell ya man, the Amazing Orange Saved my LIFE and muh Family
I feel like Teen Titans Go wouldn't receive nearly as much hate if CN actually continued the original Teen Titans show by giving it a new season every now and then. They teased in one of the Go movies and I'm not sure if it was a troll or not.
It was for the crossover movie
@@kylethefan6062 Yeah. I just remembered that now. Been a while since I watched those. Still sucks they couldn’t revive the series properly.
the worst part of Thundercats Roar was the creator hated the original 80s Thundercats, but his kid brother loved Thundercats
13:43 Idk why I loved this. Even my friends did🤣. Maybe me at my age now isn't the target demographic😪
5:45 THIS IS IN A REAL PATRICK EPISODE?!?!?!