Two things I noticed: Bonds put hardly any weight on his front foot, just enough to stabilize his body...so he basically loaded his left hip socket and sprang into rotation on it. Secondly, Bonds' bat was blurring while it was still behind his shoulder and his hands were still more or less at launch position, so he was torqueing the bat with both hands and using his left forearm as the pivot point. The bat was at full speed before he even started bringing his hands to the ball. And all the way through, he kept the vast majority on his weight on his back foot.
The big difference I see between young and older Bonds is his leg power, generating greater force against the ground. His balance is amazing in both. He was obviously less flexible towards the end, and it seems to me he learned to use ground force in addition to rubber-band force in the swing in those video-game seasons. We can speculate how much of the leg strength improvement was due to chemistry (will be small proportion regardless since he still had to lift the weights). I just remind people that the pitchers were doing the same thing.
Good points What amazes me is his ability to adjust his hands to his different body movement through the years (or vice versa) in order to generate the power. Great hitter
That front toe tap in his later years was a part of that bigger load you talk about in his hands. It is truly amazing he was able to always keep things so organized with timing and be ready to hit any pitch or pitcher.
I remember Bonds saying he was using over the counter supplements and I started buying the same thing from Ben Franklin stores and used them for about six months and clearly noticed strength gains and muscle tone, then the FDA pulled those off the shelf after the Bonds scandal. Apparently someone was lying. I lost a lot of strength after those supplements were unavailable.
what steroids and PEDs canNOT change is the insane hand/eye coordination that made him one of the greatest hitters of any era... yes, he gained power, but his swing didn't change very much at all
when you started talking about coil, it made me think of an article that I saw in Sports Illustrated years ago. The article discussed how thinner players like Eric Davis could create power and hit home runs compared to the "big strong guys". The article discussed coil, tension and so forth. It was a very interesting article and I wish that I had kept that months magazine.
Does he seem shorter to the ball in later years? Also, his pitch identification was always great. I wonder if he worked on it and actually picked up/identified the pitch earlier in his later years?
I noticed that the old Barry has a maple bat and some extra weight on his front elbow (in the form of an elbow brace or protective shielding). Aside from helping the elbow stay extended, I'm thinking the extra weight of the brace plus the harder maple wood bat would enhance his pop at the plate.
The thing that stands out to me the most is his lack of follow through with his right arm (that would be left arm for righties). In the left (Pirates Barry) he sells out completely with his right arm and in the right (Giants Barry) he basically stops his right arm (again left if you're a righty) after contact. Basically he's "whacking the ball" with his torso and not using utilizing his right arm (again left arm for righties) because he's completely roided up with a good mechanical foundation. My note is at freeze frame 1:21...rewind just a little bit and you'll see he _does_ get full extension in that right arm (again left for righties) for the Giants but then to me it still "looks wrong", like he's pulling back with the Giants and letting it go with the Pirates--maybe it's the pitch.
Well there are similarities There are some pretty obvious differences the way his back leg is working in his swing And I think this enables him to rotate faster Just a little bit
I like the new format. Having been a Giants fan since the team located to SF, this is what I have perceived (I may be mistaken, as it is based on game attended perceptions) about the difference between his PIT days and the SF PED days: His stride was a little longer, and there was more lift in his swing during the PED days, but his hands during both eras always finished below his rear shoulder (as opposed to the elevate and celebrate crowd of today). During the PIT and early SF days, he was a more of a line drive hitter.
He changed his swing to an uppercut/fly ball swing when they got the new ballpark...which happens to correlate with the HGH days. Bonds is the GOAT. He put cream on his knees. Big deal.
@@pigs6486 -- "He put cream on his knees. Big deal." According to his ex-girlfriend, he used more than cream on his knees and associated himself with BALCO and Greg Anderson, the PED pusher. Big deal? It cetainly was, for PED's greatly enhance a body's restorative and healing functions, allowing the body too be more rested for games, but not so good for a man's cahones, as Canseco admitted they become pea size. At age 35, Bonds was a man whose career was going downhill, but amazingly at age 36, every top-five single-season total Bonds had posted -- home runs, walks, intentional walks, on-base percentage, slugging percentage, total bases, and times on base -- were achieved. Hey, it was fun to watch, but it was PED fueled. After 14 seasons, prior to PED use, Bonds hit .288, averaged around 32 home runs, 100 walks, and 33 stolen bases a season. Definitely not GOAT-like, but I would say Hall of Frame worthy.
@@cwj9202 not goat like? My guy he averaged an ops of .966, 34 bases, 105 runs, .556 slugging, and 104 walks with 22 intentional, im sorry but if you don’t think that’s goated than there’s something wrong with your head, if you let alone get an ops of .966 and steal 34 bases every season then you are one of the best players in the game, via baseball reference from 1986 to 1998, when the juice started. Only player to hit 500 homers and steal 500 bases.
@@E_xe2 - I was not saying Bond's statistics were not GOAT-like. I only pointed out his stats were PED inflated, unlike those stats of Ruth, Williams, Mays, Aaron, and Mantle. Just imagine the production of those gentlemen if they used PED's -- Bonds' output in comparison would be peanuts.
@@cwj9202- I hate to break this to you, but amphetamines were huge in MLB during the playing era of the last 4 guys and those fall well into the class of performance enhancers. Along with that, since horseracing was the initial developer of drugs that provide competitive advantages and was still a charter member of the big 3 sports (boxing, baseball) there's no telling what those guys were being fed before 1950. Of course it wouldn't be as observable to us due to the fact strength training was basically non-existent in the sport.
You know what else I also noticed that right before he starts making contact and then after that he's following through his swing when he stretches his legs I mean at least from the angle from where it was being shot on the old picture when he was with the pirates hit his stand he didn't open it up too wide I mean he opened up but not when he was actually following through Whitney was making contact with the ball look at the one with the Giants and he's already pretty much stepping all the way out but at the same time you are right his bat is still what pumping pumping pumping he hasn't cut he's not reaching back yet but yeah if you look at his stand when he's starting to make contact with that ball
The biggest difference I can see is the bat speed...his later swing is much quicker which allowed him to let the ball travel deeper, which also is why he drew more walks...his bat speed let him be much more selective of pitches which is why he walked so much later in his career as well...
Maybe I’m wrong but it seems because he’s so much stronger as a Giant, he was able to start his swing a millisecond later because his bat speed increased significantly. At least that’s how it appears. Because he was able to “wait” his ability to manage pitch selection allowed him to avoid swinging at bad pitches? In 2004 he walked 232 times 120 of which were IBB. Almost 20% of PA led to an IBB. And he batted .362 with an OBP of .609. That’s insane.
Barry Bonds antes de consumir esteroides, en el 93 (cuando tuvo un salto de OPS) tenía un perfil parecido al de Miguel Cabrera, que en sus primeras 14 campañas dejó un promedio de 31 jonrones por temporada. De las 22 campañas que jugo Bonds, 19 estuvo sano, una practicamente no jugó y sus dos últimas bajó su producción a la mitad. Colocándole el promedio de jonrones que Cabrera tuvo en sus primeras 14 temporadas, hubiera pasado los 600 jonrones. Y con la velocidad que tenía antes de los esteroides hubiera sobrepasado los 3000 hits y claro que tenía de sobra para ser una leyenda. Es una lástima que los haya consumido.
Just wanted to say, did you see the later year hip explosion on the inside pitch. So much more going toward right field. He really ripped that hip through. So much more on that his feet shifted. Matt I am hitting instructor and wanted to let you know that I enjoy listening to what you have say. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Seth Beer said Bonds is the only one to hit the high and inside fastball for homer on a consistent basis during his Sam Bat days. Do a breakdown of Bonds putting a 99mph eye level insider into McCovey Cove.
Young Barry would not have crushed that high pitch like old Barry did. Young Barry had a longer swing to generate the power (like normal people), old Barry had the strength to make the super short swing work on inside and high pitches.
Dude literally told Blake Sabol to not dive out over the plate and stand more up like in the two different examples here. Told Sabol he could still reach outside pitch and too trust it. Sabol hit 2 home runs that night.
good format and analysis Matt, liked the side-by-side views. It was interesting to see Bonds career stats, I actually didn't realize although he never hit more than 50 home runs in a single season, except that record year. Just assumed he exceeded that limit a few times.
His feet (specifically his front foot) getting out of the way in his follow through is pretty cool. Matt have you ever seen Tony Gwynns breakdown of bonds swing?
Look up his OBP and SLG from his last two years and compare that to the top ten in those categories in 2022. Just going by his OPS, his last two years are MVP level in 2022.
Would love a video breaking down Griffey Jrs swing mechanics. I feel from a mechanics standpoint, he and Bonds had arguably the most gorgeous swings of all time.
Put Barry in the hall. Before the 1998-1999 off-season, when he started juicing, he: Made 8 All-Star games Won 3 MVPs Had 8 Gold Gloves 7 Silver Sluggers Hit 411 Homeruns with a .965 OPS and stole 445 bases. Let him in.
Right. If you take out the juice it is likely that he would have done almost everything he did on the juice. The juice gave him likely a 20-25% boost which is still HOF-worthy.
HGH is NOT a controlled substance under federal law. Maybe he tried anabolic steroids at one time, but his main culprit was human growth hormone in the form of a cream. Not a drug. Not “juice”.
Bonds and Clemens will not get into the hall of fame, unless coming in thru the back door from a veterans committee. The BBWAA writers will not vote a confirmed juiced player in.
To my eye, the biggest difference between Barry 1.0 and 2.0 is the violence of the latter’s swing, particularly towards the end. It looks to me like 2.0 flares out his right should and torque’s much harder from the point of attack to the end of his swing. That might have just been the higher pitch made for a more aggressive swing. But 1.0 seems a much more fluid swing.
I would agree with your assessment about Bonds' torque and increased "violence" of his swing. I would be interested in learning the increased rate of the Bonds' swing both prior to hitting the ball, and then as Bonds hits the ball. I contend between the two - that is, the younger Bonds and the older (video game) Bonds, a significant increased rate of the bat swing and targeted connection with the ball occurred. As a result, whatever Bonds was using, whether steroids or something similar, the effect gave Bonds an advantage, which exceeded all the other MLB players, because Bonds was already among the top five players in MLB. To me, it's similar to giving Warren Buffett a greater advantage in the world of security selection. Nevertheless, the Bonds swing and approach to the ball is beautiful to watch.
I don't believe Barry's size is all that crazy considering his age and decline in speed. He would be working more with weights and just batting practice in general in his mid to late 30's instead of spending equal time working on speed and fielding. At that age it would be more at risk for injuries working outfield, hard running etc. Most men could bulk up at that age considering that's when most people will naturally carry more weight even if they have the same exercise regiment.
The reason I believe the swing is a tad different is due to the check swing. Didn't that change In MLB. To be honest I haven't watched baseball in decades. Since Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, and Sammy Sosa.
Really enjoyed this, Matt! Great work, the setup is awesome. The first thing that stood out to me was: one clip is in full color and the other is in black and white. After that, I noticed Barry Bonds should be in the hall of fame.
Weather he was 180 or 230 the way he was making contact he was going out......bonds was my favorite player since 94....I think the steroids helped him stay healthier longer and hit the ball farther.....but he still is a h.o.f b4 the sauce
I think.... Bonds belongs in the Hall. Period. If Buck Showalter signals to walk you with the bases loaded to keep you from hitting a grand slam, you are simply the greatest hitter that ever lived.
If you look closely at his number of home runs per season over the years you can see that there is only one year that really stands out. ( 2001 73 home runs ). Is there any evidence that would suggest he took steroids only for the 2001 season? If Bonds only hit 49 home runs instead of 73 in 2001 ,I wonder if he would now be in the Hall of Fame.
Dang! He would have had over 800 career homeruns and 3000 hits if he hadn't got injured in 05 and maintained the same pace he had since his record breaking year of 01. But I guess it wouldn't have made a difference with Cooperstown due to the uh... balanced breakfasts.
Now I'll be curious to find out if you were to grab you know like see how far the the two balls went that he hit I bet you anything he hit that ball a lot further being older than he did when he was younger because of this and I'm guessing that's because of his fault that's because of his stance when he's opening up
It’s called the “whip” on my side of town my friend, F it! I agree Barry was Juicing!!!! But explain the Batting Average and the Slugging!Percentage!!????? The Man the 🐐 on the Dope or off the Dope!!!! Bonds the Goat!! I stopped watching Baseball because of these atrocious Black Balling at its Highest form…. Let All the guys in the Hall! Frfrfrfrfr.
I always thought his swing was so nonchalant. Like he's barely trying to swing and it just goes a mile. I don't know shit about batting mechanics , but I always thought it was because he's just perfected turning the hips and timing and his entire body is being involved with the swing.
Crazy amount of power in his legs and wrists. Barry also tested for the best eyes in the sport. Nobody talks about this. He had 20/10 vision. In fact, every elite player has had above average eye sight. How many elite hitters had glasses or contacts? It’s fascinating stuff.
One thing about the steroids is that they STILL have to hit the ball and keep it fair. No matter what he was a hell of a ball player. Was it fair to the other players, there's the rub.
I'v heard this stupid rationale before. Steroids makes you stronger so therefore more bat speed. So the player can wait a little longer on pitches and get the bat through the zone. Probably improves a player from 25-50% (see Big Poppy, Encarnacion, etc). So a guy who normally hits 25 HR can hit 50 HR. I guess that's not cheating?
Great breakdown.....
I like it. Cool video thanks
Greatest baseball player ever and its not close.
The greatest hitter that ever lived
Hip to shoulder separation
Two things I noticed: Bonds put hardly any weight on his front foot, just enough to stabilize his body...so he basically loaded his left hip socket and sprang into rotation on it. Secondly, Bonds' bat was blurring while it was still behind his shoulder and his hands were still more or less at launch position, so he was torqueing the bat with both hands and using his left forearm as the pivot point. The bat was at full speed before he even started bringing his hands to the ball. And all the way through, he kept the vast majority on his weight on his back foot.
The big difference I see between young and older Bonds is his leg power, generating greater force against the ground. His balance is amazing in both. He was obviously less flexible towards the end, and it seems to me he learned to use ground force in addition to rubber-band force in the swing in those video-game seasons. We can speculate how much of the leg strength improvement was due to chemistry (will be small proportion regardless since he still had to lift the weights). I just remind people that the pitchers were doing the same thing.
Good points
What amazes me is his ability to adjust his hands to his different body movement through the years (or vice versa) in order to generate the power.
Great hitter
I also saw the later Bonds pivot as being more powerful.
I like the setup Matt
That front toe tap in his later years was a part of that bigger load you talk about in his hands. It is truly amazing he was able to always keep things so organized with timing and be ready to hit any pitch or pitcher.
Awesome analysis. Ty matt
Interesting to see a HDR RUclips vid
I remember Bonds saying he was using over the counter supplements and I started buying the same thing from Ben Franklin stores and used them for about six months and clearly noticed strength gains and muscle tone, then the FDA pulled those off the shelf after the Bonds scandal. Apparently someone was lying. I lost a lot of strength after those supplements were unavailable.
what steroids and PEDs canNOT change is the insane hand/eye coordination that made him one of the greatest hitters of any era... yes, he gained power, but his swing didn't change very much at all
For sure!
He’s also doing a toe tap on the right vs no toe tap on the left. Only thing I noticed that you didn’t mention.
I like this format!
He was the best player in the league even before steroids. He was better than even Griffey.
💯
LOVE the new format.
Excellent breakdown Matt!
Barry Bonds HOF 2022!!! 🙏🏻⚾️
when you started talking about coil, it made me think of an article that I saw in Sports Illustrated years ago.
The article discussed how thinner players like Eric Davis could create power and hit home runs compared to the "big strong guys". The article discussed coil, tension and so forth. It was a very interesting article and I wish that I had kept that months magazine.
Flexibility
Video Game Barry 💪🏼
Does he seem shorter to the ball in later years?
Also, his pitch identification was always great. I wonder if he worked on it and actually picked up/identified the pitch earlier in his later years?
Great video interesting
I noticed that the old Barry has a maple bat and some extra weight on his front elbow (in the form of an elbow brace or protective shielding). Aside from helping the elbow stay extended, I'm thinking the extra weight of the brace plus the harder maple wood bat would enhance his pop at the plate.
The turn of those hips and keeping his hands back is text book
I remember that summer tho it was steroid driven from those hitters but man they was goin crazy
The thing that stands out to me the most is his lack of follow through with his right arm (that would be left arm for righties). In the left (Pirates Barry) he sells out completely with his right arm and in the right (Giants Barry) he basically stops his right arm (again left if you're a righty) after contact. Basically he's "whacking the ball" with his torso and not using utilizing his right arm (again left arm for righties) because he's completely roided up with a good mechanical foundation.
My note is at freeze frame 1:21...rewind just a little bit and you'll see he _does_ get full extension in that right arm (again left for righties) for the Giants but then to me it still "looks wrong", like he's pulling back with the Giants and letting it go with the Pirates--maybe it's the pitch.
Excellent video- thank you!
Well there are similarities There are some pretty obvious differences the way his back leg is working in his swing And I think this enables him to rotate faster Just a little bit
older Bonds elbows were lower abd closer till he pulled the trigger.
The greatest hitter in the history of baseball without question.
I like the new format. Having been a Giants fan since the team located to SF, this is what I have perceived (I may be mistaken, as it is based on game attended perceptions) about the difference between his PIT days and the SF PED days: His stride was a little longer, and there was more lift in his swing during the PED days, but his hands during both eras always finished below his rear shoulder (as opposed to the elevate and celebrate crowd of today). During the PIT and early SF days, he was a more of a line drive hitter.
He changed his swing to an uppercut/fly ball swing when they got the new ballpark...which happens to correlate with the HGH days. Bonds is the GOAT. He put cream on his knees. Big deal.
@@pigs6486 -- "He put cream on his knees. Big deal." According to his ex-girlfriend, he used more than cream on his knees and associated himself with BALCO and Greg Anderson, the PED pusher. Big deal? It cetainly was, for PED's greatly enhance a body's restorative and healing functions, allowing the body too be more rested for games, but not so good for a man's cahones, as Canseco admitted they become pea size.
At age 35, Bonds was a man whose career was going downhill, but amazingly at age 36, every top-five single-season total Bonds had posted -- home runs, walks, intentional walks, on-base percentage, slugging percentage, total bases, and times on base -- were achieved. Hey, it was fun to watch, but it was PED fueled.
After 14 seasons, prior to PED use, Bonds hit .288, averaged around 32 home runs, 100 walks, and 33 stolen bases a season. Definitely not GOAT-like, but I would say Hall of Frame worthy.
@@cwj9202 not goat like? My guy he averaged an ops of .966, 34 bases, 105 runs, .556 slugging, and 104 walks with 22 intentional, im sorry but if you don’t think that’s goated than there’s something wrong with your head, if you let alone get an ops of .966 and steal 34 bases every season then you are one of the best players in the game, via baseball reference from 1986 to 1998, when the juice started. Only player to hit 500 homers and steal 500 bases.
@@E_xe2 - I was not saying Bond's statistics were not GOAT-like. I only pointed out his stats were PED inflated, unlike those stats of Ruth, Williams, Mays, Aaron, and Mantle. Just imagine the production of those gentlemen if they used PED's -- Bonds' output in comparison would be peanuts.
@@cwj9202- I hate to break this to you, but amphetamines were huge in MLB during the playing era of the last 4 guys and those fall well into the class of performance enhancers. Along with that, since horseracing was the initial developer of drugs that provide competitive advantages and was still a charter member of the big 3 sports (boxing, baseball) there's no telling what those guys were being fed before 1950. Of course it wouldn't be as observable to us due to the fact strength training was basically non-existent in the sport.
You know what else I also noticed that right before he starts making contact and then after that he's following through his swing when he stretches his legs I mean at least from the angle from where it was being shot on the old picture when he was with the pirates hit his stand he didn't open it up too wide I mean he opened up but not when he was actually following through Whitney was making contact with the ball look at the one with the Giants and he's already pretty much stepping all the way out but at the same time you are right his bat is still what pumping pumping pumping he hasn't cut he's not reaching back yet but yeah if you look at his stand when he's starting to make contact with that ball
The biggest difference I can see is the bat speed...his later swing is much quicker which allowed him to let the ball travel deeper, which also is why he drew more walks...his bat speed let him be much more selective of pitches which is why he walked so much later in his career as well...
That’s great work by u. Video game player- I like that term to describe his freakishly stats yrs
Maybe I’m wrong but it seems because he’s so much stronger as a Giant, he was able to start his swing a millisecond later because his bat speed increased significantly. At least that’s how it appears. Because he was able to “wait” his ability to manage pitch selection allowed him to avoid swinging at bad pitches? In 2004 he walked 232 times 120 of which were IBB. Almost 20% of PA led to an IBB. And he batted .362 with an OBP of .609. That’s insane.
Love this video format and seeing the side by side comparison. Great analysis
I was just watching his pirates highlights that's crazy
I noticed that older Bond's left hand left the club slightly faster
I liked this style of video and your analysis.
what I find interesting about Bonds was his ability to hit the inside pitch and keep it fair. Most players hitting that inside pitch would go foul.
That and he used one of the lightest bats in baseball history. I believe a 30 ounce bat, which is the same I used as a 5’9” freshman in high school.
most guys like the inside pitch the most
@@pigs6486, most major leaguers swing 30.5 or 31
@@baileysmith4744 yea but it’s usually a pulled ground ball bonds could pull and lift the ball
Bonds credited improvement with his hands for keeping the ball fair. One reason his HR totals increased was fewer foul balls to right field.
The MLB secret is to tuck that elbow into the hip so you can fully extend your arm and get a good swing through.
barry is the goat
Barry Bonds antes de consumir esteroides, en el 93 (cuando tuvo un salto de OPS) tenía un perfil parecido al de Miguel Cabrera, que en sus primeras 14 campañas dejó un promedio de 31 jonrones por temporada. De las 22 campañas que jugo Bonds, 19 estuvo sano, una practicamente no jugó y sus dos últimas bajó su producción a la mitad. Colocándole el promedio de jonrones que Cabrera tuvo en sus primeras 14 temporadas, hubiera pasado los 600 jonrones. Y con la velocidad que tenía antes de los esteroides hubiera sobrepasado los 3000 hits y claro que tenía de sobra para ser una leyenda. Es una lástima que los haya consumido.
Just wanted to say, did you see the later year hip explosion on the inside pitch. So much more going toward right field. He really ripped that hip through. So much more on that his feet shifted. Matt I am hitting instructor and wanted to let you know that I enjoy listening to what you have say. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Saw that too. Incredible.
Seth Beer said Bonds is the only one to hit the high and inside fastball for homer on a consistent basis during his Sam Bat days. Do a breakdown of Bonds putting a 99mph eye level insider into McCovey Cove.
His hips and shoulders open earlier in the video of him with the pirates
I read in a book to show how good he was he told the author to look up his milestone hrs and they were always at home.
Hey Matt, are you the guy who collects John Jaha cards? If so I got a bunch.
Show me a player or a person who is not bigger from their 20s - 40s. Ill wait😅
Young Barry would not have crushed that high pitch like old Barry did. Young Barry had a longer swing to generate the power (like normal people), old Barry had the strength to make the super short swing work on inside and high pitches.
Commanded the batter's box that's the difference
Thanks for all the very good instructional videos! What app are you using on your iPad to compare swings?
Dude literally told Blake Sabol to not dive out over the plate and stand more up like in the two different examples here. Told Sabol he could still reach outside pitch and too trust it. Sabol hit 2 home runs that night.
You really like Barry bonds as I do. At least I think. Because he is an ultimate baseball swing you would want to teach kids at least I think
This is great. Thanks.
Also, what do you think of Richard Schenck's HLP method? He bases his method off of Bond's swing.
Did his bat weight increase after the magic muscle potion...that could of helped with distance too
Decreased. Lighter bat
good format and analysis Matt, liked the side-by-side views. It was interesting to see Bonds career stats, I actually didn't realize although he never hit more than 50 home runs in a single season, except that record year. Just assumed he exceeded that limit a few times.
His feet (specifically his front foot) getting out of the way in his follow through is pretty cool. Matt have you ever seen Tony Gwynns breakdown of bonds swing?
Judging by his last years stats, he might have retired early. He was still good.
Look up his OBP and SLG from his last two years and compare that to the top ten in those categories in 2022. Just going by his OPS, his last two years are MVP level in 2022.
Would love a video breaking down Griffey Jrs swing mechanics. I feel from a mechanics standpoint, he and Bonds had arguably the most gorgeous swings of all time.
Griffey’s swing was beautiful but it may have contributed to his higher than average strikeout rate.
Hips
Older Barry was much more animated and angry.
Put Barry in the hall.
Before the 1998-1999 off-season, when he started juicing, he:
Made 8 All-Star games
Won 3 MVPs
Had 8 Gold Gloves
7 Silver Sluggers
Hit 411 Homeruns with a .965 OPS and stole 445 bases.
Let him in.
Right. If you take out the juice it is likely that he would have done almost everything he did on the juice. The juice gave him likely a 20-25% boost which is still HOF-worthy.
HGH is NOT a controlled substance under federal law. Maybe he tried anabolic steroids at one time, but his main culprit was human growth hormone in the form of a cream. Not a drug. Not “juice”.
Bonds and Clemens will not get into the hall of fame, unless coming in thru the back door from a veterans committee. The BBWAA writers will not vote a confirmed juiced player in.
Let Pete in. at least he didn't cheat IN the games.
@@Briansgate Right. Not the ones he played in but the ones he managed.
You forgot to mention he still has a can of moist snuff in his back right pocket. Really the key to his swing.
To my eye, the biggest difference between Barry 1.0 and 2.0 is the violence of the latter’s swing, particularly towards the end. It looks to me like 2.0 flares out his right should and torque’s much harder from the point of attack to the end of his swing. That might have just been the higher pitch made for a more aggressive swing. But 1.0 seems a much more fluid swing.
I would agree with your assessment about Bonds' torque and increased "violence" of his swing. I would be interested in learning the increased rate of the Bonds' swing both prior to hitting the ball, and then as Bonds hits the ball. I contend between the two - that is, the younger Bonds and the older (video game) Bonds, a significant increased rate of the bat swing and targeted connection with the ball occurred. As a result, whatever Bonds was using, whether steroids or something similar, the effect gave Bonds an advantage, which exceeded all the other MLB players, because Bonds was already among the top five players in MLB. To me, it's similar to giving Warren Buffett a greater advantage in the world of security selection. Nevertheless, the Bonds swing and approach to the ball is beautiful to watch.
@@jkrasney1 what is rate of bat swing?
Older Barry hands are lower and hip swing is a tick later and more forcefull, much more “babe Ruth” like in older Barry.
Barry also had knee surgery between these times if i’m not mistaken.
Barry Bonds was the best player in baseball before roids and we was the best player in baseball after roids.
I don't believe Barry's size is all that crazy considering his age and decline in speed. He would be working more with weights and just batting practice in general in his mid to late 30's instead of spending equal time working on speed and fielding. At that age it would be more at risk for injuries working outfield, hard running etc. Most men could bulk up at that age considering that's when most people will naturally carry more weight even if they have the same exercise regiment.
Pirates stadium was a Mammoth Park is everyone whacked-out?
Toe tap
The Bonds swing is violent. Not necessarily the prettiest but violent
The reason I believe the swing is a tad different is due to the check swing. Didn't that change In MLB. To be honest I haven't watched baseball in decades. Since Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, and Sammy Sosa.
Really enjoyed this, Matt! Great work, the setup is awesome. The first thing that stood out to me was: one clip is in full color and the other is in black and white. After that, I noticed Barry Bonds should be in the hall of fame.
*the roids hall of fame
He should be in the Hall of Fame. But then again Joe Biden shouldn't be President.
Hall of roids he's right behind conseco for most roids pumped into the body over a career
@@mikewager3897 Bonds’ career before 98 has been stamped HOF worthy by far by the real fans. Keep crying.
@@MoSuli96 suck it over a decade of steroid use juiced his home run totals he cheated his way to all time HR leader
Weather he was 180 or 230 the way he was making contact he was going out......bonds was my favorite player since 94....I think the steroids helped him stay healthier longer and hit the ball farther.....but he still is a h.o.f b4 the sauce
He’s in front of the TV like he’s teaching a math class.
If he starts teaching algebra formulas, im in trouble.
@@BrownBrown270 the only math I’m good at is statistics.
I noticed how big his head grew like Mr.Potato Head!!!
I think.... Bonds belongs in the Hall. Period. If Buck Showalter signals to walk you with the bases loaded to keep you from hitting a grand slam, you are simply the greatest hitter that ever lived.
If you look closely at his number of home runs per season over the years you can see that there is only one year that really stands out. ( 2001 73 home runs ). Is there any evidence that would suggest he took steroids only for the 2001 season? If Bonds only hit 49 home runs instead of 73 in 2001 ,I wonder if he would now be in the Hall of Fame.
It’s known that he took roids beginning in ‘98.
@@Garrett1240 it was in 99 when he hired Greg Anderson, after watching the attention McGwire and Sosa got from juicing
This is what I’m here for. Barry Bonds swing mechanics. All day.
Dang! He would have had over 800 career homeruns and 3000 hits if he hadn't got injured in 05 and maintained the same pace he had since his record breaking year of 01. But I guess it wouldn't have made a difference with Cooperstown due to the uh... balanced breakfasts.
Barry the goat 🤷♂️
i don't know how you can saw before and after steroids, there's about 15 years apart between these 2 comparisons
As his head began to increase in size and weight he had to adjust to a more vertical stance; otherwise he would have face planted into home plate.
People who suggest he would be ~marginally as productive without steroids, well then sir I have a beach house in Idaho with your name on it.
It's impossible for someone to work on their swing and perfect their craft?
Now I'll be curious to find out if you were to grab you know like see how far the the two balls went that he hit I bet you anything he hit that ball a lot further being older than he did when he was younger because of this and I'm guessing that's because of his fault that's because of his stance when he's opening up
Griffey is pretty but his is more effective
bonds when he was just being absurd...he got to the inside pitch better then anyone i have ever seen.. it was just stupid.
It’s called the “whip” on my side of town my friend, F it! I agree Barry was Juicing!!!! But explain the Batting Average and the Slugging!Percentage!!????? The Man the 🐐 on the Dope or off the Dope!!!! Bonds the Goat!! I stopped watching Baseball because of these atrocious Black Balling at its Highest form…. Let All the guys in the Hall! Frfrfrfrfr.
Great content but drink a lil water my man 🙂
I believe the swings are pretty similar cause it is the same guy
Somebody may hit more than 73 home runs, but no one will ever break that 232 BB record.
Or his ibb....he had more the whole teams
I always thought his swing was so nonchalant. Like he's barely trying to swing and it just goes a mile. I don't know shit about batting mechanics , but I always thought it was because he's just perfected turning the hips and timing and his entire body is being involved with the swing.
Crazy amount of power in his legs and wrists. Barry also tested for the best eyes in the sport. Nobody talks about this. He had 20/10 vision. In fact, every elite player has had above average eye sight. How many elite hitters had glasses or contacts? It’s fascinating stuff.
@@pigs6486 I think McGwire had contacts?
Low finish in his swing is not what the gurus are teaching.
Was in the ballpark when he hit 71 and 72.
Helmet went up two full sizes.
Babe Ruth pump.
One thing about the steroids is that they STILL have to hit the ball and keep it fair. No matter what he was a hell of a ball player. Was it fair to the other players, there's the rub.
I'v heard this stupid rationale before. Steroids makes you stronger so therefore more bat speed. So the player can wait a little longer on pitches and get the bat through the zone. Probably improves a player from 25-50% (see Big Poppy, Encarnacion, etc). So a guy who normally hits 25 HR can hit 50 HR. I guess that's not cheating?
A few more hormones rather than chamicals.