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I wonder if this is the LAST THING i need to fix Because my baseball swing (On contact) Turns into a v shape contact. My start is fine, but my finish is a v contact.
@Antonelli Baseball So turning and not tilting can cause these symptoms? The barrel not slotting into the shoulder and staying really up and down to where the barrel is above the ear, arm bar from rotation, cutting across the zone, being able to only hit away pitches well, and hitting upper handle-bat area?
I'm sitting here, watching these videos and thinking back to every coach I ever had. EVERY SINGLE ONE... Taught me to swing down on the ball, squish the bug, weight balanced evenly, and don't "drop your shoulder". I was a 4yr starter at my school and I have watched a ton of videos so I can better teach my son and man do I think I could have been so much better had I did my own research on proper mechanics. I was more of a trust your coaches kid and didn't think about the fact that most of them didn't play after highschool or JuCo. I won't make that mistake with my sons. I will research and due my best to get them great coaching. Great video and thank you for all of your help especially the teaching your kids to catch videos. I bought 6 swax balls immediately and it has changed everything. Thank you!
Thanks Antonelli for making these videos. I use a lot of your content in teaching my players every year. As a 2 time NAIA college world series champion and drafted twice, I learned quickly that simply being a good player does not make you a good coach. It's taken a lot of effort and I really appreciate your videos.
wow this helped so much, i didnt know how important it is to start with the bat vertical so u can use your hips to whip it through the zone while keeping the bat level. im gonna be a junior this year and these vids will def help me get some starts this year. nice one bro
Well yea ur not supposed to drop ur shoulder when u swing everyonce in a while you’ll hit one out but won’t make it to the next level doing that. The difference between a home run and a line drive is if u catch the ball out in front or deeper. Homeruns are supposed to happen on accident
@@ryn9892 I've hit ground balls and line drives with the same swing too. Telling someone they popped up because they dropped their shoulder is something idiots say to make themselves feel smart.
Oh boy...you sound young. What makes you so sure it is the same swing? And if it is...why such a different result? Don't resist good advice...if someone is trying to help you let them.
When I'm talk to my boys so about throwing we talk about separating hips from shoulders in order to increase velocity. Matt is this the same Principle you are describing?
When i'm talking to my boys about throwing we talk about separating the hips from the shoulders in order to increase velocity. Matt is this the same principle you are describing?*******
I like the video and concept of tilting and not turning. I feel what also is important is holding the 90 on your bottom hand as you're tilting and not letting the tilt make your swing long. Just wanted to add that. I like comparing it to a rubber band. Nice video.
Pitches break in to the batter, but they tell them to "go out and get pitch in front of/over the plate" and maybe in geometry of cutting down arch of pitch it makes some sense, but I suspect youre right based on Japan/S korea videos where looks like theyre catching ball deep with violent half swings that give ball top spin in air etc. Adjustment anticipation seems inevitable over uniform swing though. Default, backing front shoulder windmill swing sounds right though.
Hi Matt been trying to drill this tilt into my son’s brain, but not happening during live pitching, he does it well when hitting off the tee and I remind him, but once he goes live he doesnt do it, any tips or drills to help him with this???
When your tilting do you have your shoulders go straight back? Ex. Hips twisting and the shoulders tilt directly back, causing alot of stretch and batspeed? The twisting causes the shoulders to come around. The shoulders get your bat below the ball on a good plane and help get the barrel working back... Right?
@@AntonelliBaseball I am brand new never played this great game! 1st time at the batting cages I was able to hit 70 mph fastballs after the 3rd time I went up to bat! At the batting cages the plate is at 46 feet. I can't wait to get decent at batting!!!
Look at Griffey Jr. Swing and how he flattens the barrelsome of the greatest hitter in baseball were right handed but batted left...ruth griffin Williams gwynn carew ott etc...hope you understand what I'm saying
I don't have a ton of drills on here. If you check out our winter workout videos I do go into some of the drills. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@antonellibaseball How do we fix rotating off the ball with the upper half. My 11 yr old son does this and I haven't been able to fix this. I work proper position with him in our cage but with he still spins off the balls in games. He hits off a loose bent front knee. I'm trying to get him to be strong off the front knee and not turn his upper body off the ball? If you have videos I haven't seen I'd appreciate it? Thanks in advance. My son and his team are traveling to Alabama for ripken world series and I'd love to get his swing in top shape in the month before we leave
Thanks for the video Matt. I would think this would be the top reason kids pull their head out on a swing. A good explanation of how it happens versus just looking at the result.
No, you will end up pulling outside pitches if you twist your upper half rather than tilting because you aren't staying in long enough. Bat speed still increases with his method, where you would lose it when making yourself push that outside pitch with the twist
We don't have a drill specifically working on that, but a lot of our coil drills naturally do it. Thanks for watching our vids and commenting I appreciate it!!
Hi Matt, I understand why it's not benefitial to rotate actively with the upper body, but doesn't tilting back result in a bad posture because you cannot maintain a neutral spine? Maybe I haven't fully understood what you exactly mean with 'tilting back'.
@@AntonelliBaseball Please do post the videos. I've recently been seeing a lot in your videos that remind me of Scheneck teaching, which I believe in. My issue is translating it to 9u players.
Hey Matt, I have a problem in my swing that I dont know what it is or how to fix it. I am very good at hitting to the opposite field as a righty, but when I get an inside pitch I usually roll over on a ground ball to third. I also sometimes pop up to second or shallow center. I have a big upper cut swing and I use my lower half well but I dont understand why I roll over. If anyone has had this problem please let me know.
i used to have the same problem. for me personally, i was unknowingly putting my feet at an angle so that my front foot is closer to the plate than my back foot. i know giancarlo stanton does this ( he's freaking jacked), but it was closing my hips off so i couldn't rotate correctly to the inside pitches. this might not be your problem, but what i did to fix it was put a spare bat just in front of my feet before taking cuts in the cage just to make sure my front foot didn't drift towards the plate. hope this helps.
if you are serious about hitting. Check out Hitting illustrated by Richard Scheneck. Gamer Grit has a youtube video with Josh Palacios. Other perspectives of the tilt, turn and launching. Student of the game that played back in the days. Consistently learning for the love of the game. I never understood why I would hit ball foul or why I would swing late. Honestly, you are probably still pushing instead of turning.
The swing you describe is not a swing that would induce a "roll over". Just because you ground out to third sometimes on inside pitches doesn't mean a roll over occurred. A roll over or weak grounder, usually occurs on away pitches that you are early on so you pull them. If you have an uppercut and you ground to third on an inside pitch, you may be late on the pitch and your barrel isn't perpendicular to the path of the baseball. Or, you simply hit the top half of the ball and the bat angle associated with an uppercut directed the ball to third. The swing alone will not make you a .500 hitter so don't overthink it.
Back elbow is getting ahead of hands and knob...also bet ya hands are dropping as ya stride (tryn get in plane early) and not replacing ya hands where front elbow started at in the "Box"!
If you tilt before you rotate, that promotes an open front shoulder...tilt usually takes care of itself based on location-height-of pitch. Higher pitches, less tilt. Lower pitches, more tilt. If you begin to tilt early as you demonstrate, no chance for the high fastball...if the ump is calling it.
Richard Lovell Not to discredit this gentleman’s instruction in any way but the whole time I was watching this I was thinking, would Rich Lovell put his stamp of approval on this technique...lol! I really like your approach with the Epstein Hitting System and all so when I watch other channels on hitting I am cautious. My daughter has really benefited from me translating your mechanics to her! Thank you both for devoting your time to making our players better in the great sports of baseball and also fastpitch softball! Darren
@@midnightflyer7510 Darren, thanks for the kind words and support, I appreciate it. We can always learn something from anyone as long as we keep an open mind and open for discussion and debate. Good stuff!
I almost agree lol, the concept is right. Upper body, still needs to rotate (and slightly tilt), however the rotation should be vertical NOT HORIZONTAL like the lower half. The rotation is opposite of the four seam fastball that approaches the hitter. The hitters front shoulder is rotating back (and slightly up) towards the catcher,BUT the back shoulder is rotating down and forward to start the swing. IMO if we just think tilt then it pushes the hips forward and creates a long terrible bat angle. Rotating vertically with the shoulders allows us to stay short and reach a palm up/palm down position near contact, allowing us to stay behind the ball and be in the zone longer.
Where is the Tilt Dont Turn part ? Upper body tilts and turns. Main point seems to be have lower body slightly separated and ahead of upper body to create muscle tension and perhaps greater force when upper body turns. Upper body still turns/rotates when you swing the bat. Sure do not want to just use arms only. Not sure what you mean.
He means your upper body is only tilting back. Your hips are only turning. The two combined = Turn + tilt. Meaning when your hips twist you create stretch and your shoulders are aslo going back. After they stretch so much the shoulders snap forward from the hips twisting.
Not the best statement here. The body (in hitting) is two parts: lower and upper. Lower body literally explodes, the upper body (hands & head) follows in a steady, controlled tilt for hand / eye coordination. Creating the rubber band effect. Toughest thing to accomplish in any sport, hitting a baseball, this is why it’s debated sooo much.
@@jeffwilliams8325 No. The body does not literally explode. The body, both halves, create a solid foundation and the motion is slow relative to the barrel of the bat which is moving at the speed that the hands will allow.
There really is a difference between normal humans and professional athletes. This guy's quick twitch muscles fire off faster post-career than my halcyon years. Are there any minor leaguers who can not accept fate (i would include myself, if i had made the minors).
If you enjoyed our hitting talk and want to learn more, click the link below to check out our new course explaining our step-by-step system to building an elite swing and over 25 drills!
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I wonder if this is the LAST THING i need to fix
Because my baseball swing (On contact) Turns into a v shape contact.
My start is fine, but my finish is a v contact.
Hmmm.. Maybe im not getting extended...
Isn't this dropping your back shoulder though?
Whats the difference between this and dropping your back shoulder?
@Antonelli Baseball
So turning and not tilting can cause these symptoms?
The barrel not slotting into the shoulder and staying really up and down to where the barrel is above the ear, arm bar from rotation, cutting across the zone, being able to only hit away pitches well, and hitting upper handle-bat area?
I'm sitting here, watching these videos and thinking back to every coach I ever had. EVERY SINGLE ONE... Taught me to swing down on the ball, squish the bug, weight balanced evenly, and don't "drop your shoulder". I was a 4yr starter at my school and I have watched a ton of videos so I can better teach my son and man do I think I could have been so much better had I did my own research on proper mechanics. I was more of a trust your coaches kid and didn't think about the fact that most of them didn't play after highschool or JuCo. I won't make that mistake with my sons. I will research and due my best to get them great coaching. Great video and thank you for all of your help especially the teaching your kids to catch videos. I bought 6 swax balls immediately and it has changed everything. Thank you!
Thanks Antonelli for making these videos. I use a lot of your content in teaching my players every year. As a 2 time NAIA college world series champion and drafted twice, I learned quickly that simply being a good player does not make you a good coach. It's taken a lot of effort and I really appreciate your videos.
wow this helped so much, i didnt know how important it is to start with the bat vertical so u can use your hips to whip it through the zone while keeping the bat level. im gonna be a junior this year and these vids will def help me get some starts this year. nice one bro
Thanks!!! Thanks for watching!!
Love how guys remind me that I "dropped my shoulder" every time I pop up but they never say that after I hit a bomb with the same swing.
Twins22R I feel that to much
Well yea ur not supposed to drop ur shoulder when u swing everyonce in a while you’ll hit one out but won’t make it to the next level doing that. The difference between a home run and a line drive is if u catch the ball out in front or deeper. Homeruns are supposed to happen on accident
@@ryn9892 I've hit ground balls and line drives with the same swing too.
Telling someone they popped up because they dropped their shoulder is something idiots say to make themselves feel smart.
@@Twins22R Fair enough ,if your stats are good then keep doing your thing however if they are not good then time to change it up.
Oh boy...you sound young. What makes you so sure it is the same swing? And if it is...why such a different result? Don't resist good advice...if someone is trying to help you let them.
Love these videos about hitting
Been struggling with my swing so this really helps thanks
What kind of drills can I do to help with this kind of problem?
Love your videos been a big help with my son(Highschool Senion)
Hi Matt, this is great! Just came across this. My son does exactly this with his upper body. What is a good way to adjust this?
My son is a junior in high school and is dealing with exactly this. Are there drills you would suggest to correct this? Love the channel.
When I'm talk to my boys so about throwing we talk about separating hips from shoulders in order to increase velocity. Matt is this the same Principle you are describing?
When i'm talking to my boys about throwing we talk about separating the hips from the shoulders in order to increase velocity. Matt is this the same principle you are describing?*******
Excellent video. Thank you
I like the video and concept of tilting and not turning. I feel what also is important is holding the 90 on your bottom hand as you're tilting and not letting the tilt make your swing long. Just wanted to add that. I like comparing it to a rubber band. Nice video.
Yes for sure!! Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Pitches break in to the batter, but they tell them to "go out and get pitch in front of/over the plate" and maybe in geometry of cutting down arch of pitch it makes some sense, but I suspect youre right based on Japan/S korea videos where looks like theyre catching ball deep with violent half swings that give ball top spin in air etc. Adjustment anticipation seems inevitable over uniform swing though. Default, backing front shoulder windmill swing sounds right though.
Great video.
Totally agree. Creates more reverse torque.
Hi Matt been trying to drill this tilt into my son’s brain, but not happening during live pitching, he does it well when hitting off the tee and I remind him, but once he goes live he doesnt do it, any tips or drills to help him with this???
Awesome again Matt. I think something happened to your roof and walls!!! Outdoor Matt. I like it. Haha
VERY helpful! Thank you!
What drills can be used to increase bat speed and rotation? Really need your help. I am in Australia and need some expert coaching for my son.
Great video Matt 🙏🏼👏🏽 looks like a pretty sweet field you recorded at
great. thanx from France
Great video!! Just what I needed.
Found it! Thanks Matt!
Good stuff!
Cool content!
What are your thoughts about Kenta Maeda on the Dodgers???
Love this video!
awesome - thank you
Front arm dominant swing is what I believe your saying??
Hey coach what is a feel that I can get for this?
When your tilting do you have your shoulders go straight back?
Ex. Hips twisting and the shoulders tilt directly back, causing alot of stretch and batspeed? The twisting causes the shoulders to come around. The shoulders get your bat below the ball on a good plane and help get the barrel working back... Right?
Matt great explanation of lower and upperbody separation
Thank you!! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
I have so much to practice on!
Good luck!!!
@@AntonelliBaseball I am brand new never played this great game! 1st time at the batting cages I was able to hit 70 mph fastballs after the 3rd time I went up to bat! At the batting cages the plate is at 46 feet. I can't wait to get decent at batting!!!
So does your front shoulder slightly go up?
Yes up or back however you want to think about it
Look at Griffey Jr. Swing and how he flattens the barrelsome of the greatest hitter in baseball were right handed but batted left...ruth griffin Williams gwynn carew ott etc...hope you understand what I'm saying
This is great information to have but how do you teach it? What kind of drills can be done?
I don't have a ton of drills on here. If you check out our winter workout videos I do go into some of the drills. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Curious if you still teach this?
Nice vid love the channel keep it up
What kind of drills are helpful for tilting
@antonellibaseball How do we fix rotating off the ball with the upper half. My 11 yr old son does this and I haven't been able to fix this. I work proper position with him in our cage but with he still spins off the balls in games. He hits off a loose bent front knee. I'm trying to get him to be strong off the front knee and not turn his upper body off the ball? If you have videos I haven't seen I'd appreciate it? Thanks in advance. My son and his team are traveling to Alabama for ripken world series and I'd love to get his swing in top shape in the month before we leave
I love your stuff but you should do these fortunes in slow mo pls thanks
Thanks for the video Matt. I would think this would be the top reason kids pull their head out on a swing. A good explanation of how it happens versus just looking at the result.
Any updates on my when the cleat video will be posted?
great!
Matt, won't the arms, especially when extending for outside pitches, provide some balance and prevent the upper body from pulling too soon?
No, you will end up pulling outside pitches if you twist your upper half rather than tilting because you aren't staying in long enough. Bat speed still increases with his method, where you would lose it when making yourself push that outside pitch with the twist
@@BobbyRauch Good point. Thanks for the tip!
How can u get around to the high pitches?
Watch some of our videos of mlb players doing it. Thanks for watching!!
Larry Rush do you have a better technique to catch up to good high heat? Batter will tilt less on pitches up in the zone, but there is still tilt
Stop chasing them.
Hello Matt, do you have some drills for back arm extension
We don't have a drill specifically working on that, but a lot of our coil drills naturally do it. Thanks for watching our vids and commenting I appreciate it!!
Is there a problem with too much tilt in the swing?
Yes I guess there could be
See Domingo Ayala.
Hi Matt, I understand why it's not benefitial to rotate actively with the upper body, but doesn't tilting back result in a bad posture because you cannot maintain a neutral spine?
Maybe I haven't fully understood what you exactly mean with 'tilting back'.
What is a neutral spine and how does it benefit?
Any suggested drills to reinforce this concept?
I have a bunch but I don't have videos. Will try to make some. Thanks for watching!!
@@AntonelliBaseball Please do post the videos. I've recently been seeing a lot in your videos that remind me of Scheneck teaching, which I believe in. My issue is translating it to 9u players.
Awesome video,great new way to think of that and feel it quickly.Thanks love it!
Thanks so much! Thanks for watching!
In golf, we call this maintaining spine angle.
How do you teach to tilt without dipping
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Proper Shoulder Action in Hitting! Don't drop... TILT!
In your time in the majors, what teammate/player made the biggest impact in your career?
This is the reason I jam myself, even if its not hard and in.
Hey Matt, I have a problem in my swing that I dont know what it is or how to fix it. I am very good at hitting to the opposite field as a righty, but when I get an inside pitch I usually roll over on a ground ball to third. I also sometimes pop up to second or shallow center. I have a big upper cut swing and I use my lower half well but I dont understand why I roll over. If anyone has had this problem please let me know.
i used to have the same problem. for me personally, i was unknowingly putting my feet at an angle so that my front foot is closer to the plate than my back foot. i know giancarlo stanton does this ( he's freaking jacked), but it was closing my hips off so i couldn't rotate correctly to the inside pitches. this might not be your problem, but what i did to fix it was put a spare bat just in front of my feet before taking cuts in the cage just to make sure my front foot didn't drift towards the plate. hope this helps.
if you are serious about hitting. Check out Hitting illustrated by Richard Scheneck. Gamer Grit has a youtube video with Josh Palacios. Other perspectives of the tilt, turn and launching. Student of the game that played back in the days. Consistently learning for the love of the game. I never understood why I would hit ball foul or why I would swing late. Honestly, you are probably still pushing instead of turning.
@@mattcolin8251 where do I check him out at youtube or what?
The swing you describe is not a swing that would induce a "roll over".
Just because you ground out to third sometimes on inside pitches doesn't mean a roll over occurred.
A roll over or weak grounder, usually occurs on away pitches that you are early on so you pull them.
If you have an uppercut and you ground to third on an inside pitch, you may be late on the pitch and your barrel isn't perpendicular to the path of the baseball.
Or, you simply hit the top half of the ball and the bat angle associated with an uppercut directed the ball to third.
The swing alone will not make you a .500 hitter so don't overthink it.
Back elbow is getting ahead of hands and knob...also bet ya hands are dropping as ya stride (tryn get in plane early) and not replacing ya hands where front elbow started at in the "Box"!
That reminds me or Erin Judge s teacher teacherman
If you tilt before you rotate, that promotes an open front shoulder...tilt usually takes care of itself based on location-height-of pitch. Higher pitches, less tilt. Lower pitches, more tilt. If you begin to tilt early as you demonstrate, no chance for the high fastball...if the ump is calling it.
Richard Lovell
Not to discredit this gentleman’s instruction in any way but the whole time I was watching this I was thinking, would Rich Lovell put his stamp of approval on this technique...lol! I really like your approach with the Epstein Hitting System and all so when I watch other channels on hitting I am cautious. My daughter has really benefited from me translating your mechanics to her! Thank you both for devoting your time to making our players better in the great sports of baseball and also fastpitch softball!
Darren
@@midnightflyer7510 Darren, thanks for the kind words and support, I appreciate it. We can always learn something from anyone as long as we keep an open mind and open for discussion and debate. Good stuff!
I feel bad for the one person who gave this a 'thumbs down.'
Haha me too! Thanks so much for watching!!
I notice this in a lot of the little league kids.... the twisting of the upper body.. it drives me insane.
Gotch 71 I notice a lot of kids in little league do not have good swing mechanics
I almost agree lol, the concept is right. Upper body, still needs to rotate (and slightly tilt), however the rotation should be vertical NOT HORIZONTAL like the lower half. The rotation is opposite of the four seam fastball that approaches the hitter. The hitters front shoulder is rotating back (and slightly up) towards the catcher,BUT the back shoulder is rotating down and forward to start the swing. IMO if we just think tilt then it pushes the hips forward and creates a long terrible bat angle. Rotating vertically with the shoulders allows us to stay short and reach a palm up/palm down position near contact, allowing us to stay behind the ball and be in the zone longer.
Where is the Tilt Dont Turn part ? Upper body tilts and turns. Main point seems to be have lower body slightly separated and ahead of upper body to create muscle tension and perhaps greater force when upper body turns. Upper body still turns/rotates when you swing the bat. Sure do not want to just use arms only. Not sure what you mean.
He means your upper body is only tilting back. Your hips are only turning.
The two combined = Turn + tilt. Meaning when your hips twist you create stretch and your shoulders are aslo going back.
After they stretch so much the shoulders snap forward from the hips twisting.
Do you offer personal lessons? I have 2 boys I would love to work with you if possible.
Yes I do lessons year round. If you check out our website antonellibaseball.com you can check them out on there. Thanks for watching our videos!
Is anyone else thinking Bryce harper
I think the most extreme example of all of these swing videos would be Freddie Freeman.
No Griffey jr
first yes
Quiet body, fast hands.
Not the best statement here. The body (in hitting) is two parts: lower and upper. Lower body literally explodes, the upper body (hands & head) follows in a steady, controlled tilt for hand / eye coordination. Creating the rubber band effect. Toughest thing to accomplish in any sport, hitting a baseball, this is why it’s debated sooo much.
@@jeffwilliams8325
No. The body does not literally explode.
The body, both halves, create a solid foundation and the motion is slow relative to the barrel of the bat which is moving at the speed that the hands will allow.
My body physically can’t do that type of stretching.
Dang it lol
There really is a difference between normal humans and professional athletes. This guy's quick twitch muscles fire off faster post-career than my halcyon years. Are there any minor leaguers who can not accept fate (i would include myself, if i had made the minors).
Move teacherman stuff. Lmfao
"Bunch of bad things happening..."
wrong! thats why averages are lower now.
Love this video!