The Transformation of Barry Bonds: From Pure Talent to Steroid Scandal
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- The Transformation of Barry Bonds: From Pure Talent to Steroid Scandal
Barry Bonds boasted a career that spanned an impressive 22 seasons in Major League Baseball. During this time, his journey saw him as a key player for the Pittsburgh Pirates from 1986 to 1992 and the San Francisco Giants from 1993 to 2007, all combining to solidify his status as one of the greatest baseball players of all time.
But then, despite his numerous accolades, which included breaking the all-time home run record, he would soon find himself in some messy situations as he became a central figure in the ongoing debate surrounding performance-enhancing substances in baseball.
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The steroids extended his career and extended his prime so much. Without the steroids he would not have been able to put up numbers so late into his career. If he didn't take the steroids he may have been known as one of the best but not the greatest.
@@PAwader a lot of people make that case. Thank you for sharing
Why didnt the steroids extend the others careers as well then?
McGuire fell off
Sosa did shortly after
Brady Anderson hit 52 HRs fell off
Nomar garciaparra body broke down being too juiced up *that shortstop HR record too haha
Rafael Palmiero also had a late surge an fell off as well
Not saying Barry didnt take them but he was better into his 40s when most were already done
His hand eye coordination cant ever be disputed! Roids help WHEN they hit the baseball, roids wont help see the ball better
@@aceassn716He wasn’t hitting 73 homers at the age of 36 without the 💉💉💉. Same for Sosa and McGwire.
"Skinny" Bonds was a 1st ballot HOF'er and all time great... But it was WITH the 🧃, he was a video game
One of, if not the biggest what ifs in Brewers history is what would’ve happened if the Brewers, with the first overall pick in the 1985 Draft, picked Bonds, instead of BJ Surhoff?
BJ who???
That 2002 world series was almost single-handedly won by bonds alone.
He was amazing in that series. Totally used his only opportunity in the World Series to shine. Thank you for the comment!
Jeff Kent says hi.
@@GeeEm1313 ha!
Almost…except they lost.
This is so far from the truth.. their pitching was very good.
No skepticism here, the best all around player I've ever seen. He stands alone in so many things. Barry could do it all! And he let you know it! So what!
Even though I think he should be in the hall of fame I feel no sympathy for him not being in the hall of fame and he has no one to blame but himself for where he is
You won’t find many people that have sympathy for him. I like you still think he should be in the hall of fame
@@BBUYTTVthey should just only include his Pirates career
Still a cheat who broke the rules when he didn’t need to
Can’t dispute that
They didn’t prove it so who cares!!
@@datdude1021why isn’t he in the hof if they couldn’t prove him cheating?
@@Gman1298 because the HOF is a committee of men that’s voting guys in. They know he cheated but couldn’t prove it. So they’re using that against him. If the HOF is based on stats with no names behind it. He would be #1 on EVERYBODY list
The transformation started when Bonds realized the sport was celebrating, even worshipping, Sosa and McGuire (among numerous others) who were obviously juiced. And he thought I want that kind of fame too...
@@prestonbacchus4204 I think there was definitely some envy/jealousy
U mean the Greatest cheater of all time
Many would agree with your point
The fact nobody was even close though
Can’t watch anymore of this if he wouldn’t lie and face the music like a man people would have more respect but blatantly lying shows zero integrity
The pure irony is that the Giants won WS titles 3 times in the years after him with Bochy. I loved Bonds' swing and he was a great baseball player. The steroid thing will forever be a stain, even though he is clearly a HOF even without sterioids.
Bonds is 100% guaranteed to not be as good if couldn't wear juggernaut armor at the plate while standing over top of it. Notice in Pitt he didn't wear it. Once the league allowed all that protection he hugged the plate without fear. Wouldn't work in the 70sm he'd get blown back incessantly or hit by pitch. I still view bonds as the best ever. But I think his efficiency surged once he got the elbow pad and juggernaut armor at the plate. It helped him own the plate fearlessly. Steroids were less of a factor of his dominance than his body armor.
You make great points. I am really conflicted about my assessment of Bonds. My eyes tell me he is probably the best ever, but all of the issues that hang over him make me wonder if he was really that much better than everyone else. Thank you for the comment.
120 intentional walks. Almost 1 a game. 232 walks , 1.5 walks a game in 04. Can't see this ever happening again. Unless we see a 1000hr career from someone.
@@kenw2225 totally agree. The numbers are unreal
i don’t see the problem
@@poindextertunes A lot of people don't see the problem. I guess it comes down to people having different feelings about PED use. Thank you for the comment
Put this man in!!! It’s funny the people here in Pittsburgh will continue to hate him but the Steelers offensive lineman are loved because they brought this city four Super Bowl rings… good job steel city🤣🤣
@@KevinFrame-b8r it’s interesting what people choose to focus on and ignore depending on their team
@@BBUYTTV I agree, technically both would be our teams but you know. The pirates didn’t win that pennant and are garbage now
Barry IS the greatest of all time no questions asked
Part of me wants to agree with you, but there is just too much of a question about how much the "substances" he took helped him. Definitely in the top 5 for me though.
Don’t let politics and semantics cloud your eye test judgement
@@tfluck02 at this point it is impossible to separate them.
@@tfluck02 Its not politics and semantics..
Barry bonds cheated..He was a great player before but not close to what he became..there a reason steroids are called PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS..Bonds barely hit 25 homeruns before the roids..And mind you he was in the league for years before he started hitting towering homeruns..most of his career he was 185-190 lbs ..post steroids 228-230lbs all muscle..He cheated plain and simple..without peds he doesnt come close to the homerun record..Hes a great player but far from the greatest..
You said in 2006, Barry Bonds, became the highest paid $ baseball player of all time, but how can that be, when Alex Rodriguez, was in the middle of a $252 million dollar contact?…🤔
8 MEN OUT / JOSE CANSECO, BARRY BONDS, MARK MCGWIRE, SAMMY SOSA , GARY SHEFFIELD , MANNY RAMIREZ, RAPHAEL PALMIERO , Roger Clemons , Alex Rodriguez. Oop 9. p.s. i'd put Clemons in.
Yes, eventually he will be allowed to enter the Hall of Fame. He needs to make some admissions to speed that up.
Agreed 👍🏻
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roids can't help you see the ball better. plenty of players were juiced up and didn't come close to his skill. he's a hofer.
Does the narrator just sound like AI reading a text or is he a real person? Is sounds so off
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If he had NOT taken steroids he would have had 550-600 Hrs , 1700-1800 rbis, 1800- 1900 runs, 500 stolen bases still in the HOF EASY. but NOT the best hitter of all time. One of the top 10 hitters of all time
That's about where I think he would have ended up as well. Still a hall of famer...just not the cartoon character who put up the video game numbers. Thank you for your comment!
With those numbers on top of his 8 gold gloves I'd have to place him top 5. He has 500HR/500SB when no one else even has 400/400.
@@takuanfuan good point!
Perfectly said javybaez3236 perfectly said...couldnt have said it better
100%
Everyone took steriods and still havent gotten close to his peak 😂😂😂that 2004 season ... boy was just toying with the league
They’re still guys on PED’s to this day. It’s despicable that he isn’t in. The dude got hurt and took something or he says someone gave him something, either way, he’s the best ever.
Cant deny those are top notch stats!
Definitely no disputing how unbelievable the stats are.
Great Video
Thank you!
Hall of fame in my book
I agree. At this point they should just acknowledge that many players were on it and start putting them in.
Greatest Roid Monster ever.
Barry Could have been one of the very best. Now he is a druggy. No HOF hopefully. Being a Pirates fan watching him in Pittsburgh. None of his records should count.
It's a shame that he got caught up in PED usage, because he was on track to be one of the best. Thank you for your comment! Good luck to the Bucs this year!
@@BBUYTTV He was on track to be a HOF as is every 500 HR player, but he wasn't even necessarily on track to reach the HR plateau that Griffey reached. He tainted the game of baseball forever by making people believe that players such as Griffey, Mays, Aaron, and others weren't as incredible as they were.
Bonds already good! Put HOF number
Easy to say that Bonds was that good because of steroids. No real proof, but plenty of suspicion. I'm not sure that is the case. Compare his record with Aaron's. They played to the same age and were great players and homerun hitters all their careers. Aaron might have been a good base stealer, but the game was different. Bonds had his best homerun season when he was 36. Aaron had his best total when he was 37 and both hit in the range of 40-45 homers during most of their careers. Bonds may have been a lot heavier in his thirties, but Aaron certainly had gained weight in his later years as well. Bonds benefited from a lively baseball in the late nineties and early 2000s while Aaron had to suffer the pitching era of the sixties. Training and diet were much better during Bonds' time than in Aaron's and Bonds certainly took advantage of that. The biggest difference between them was that Bonds always drew an exceptional number of walks while Aaron did not. Also, Aaron was not walked intentionally the way Bonds was due to different strategies. Steroids may have helped Bonds, but if so, there were enough others factors that could have been the reason. Finally, Aaron had fans and the press on his side while they didn't like Bonds. They would like to have his reputation tarnished.
great comment. It is incredible what bonds did while being walked so much in those years isnt it.
Berry bonds sux
Bonds was caught. He said he unknowingly took steroids.
Either way he used them. Doesn’t mean he should still be in the hall of fame though. Thank you for the comment.
@@BBUYTTVHe should be in the HOF. If steroids made you better at baseball you would have taken them and YOU might be in hall
Barry is the GOAT and clearly you aren’t the GOAT of RUclipsrs 😂
@@andrewright3698 Barry is the greatest of all testosterone cheaters. It was against the rules even then.
@@andrewright3698how many 37 year old players hit 73 home runs in a season besides him?
Fun fact: baseball wasnt testing for steroids
back then
What did they think the players were gonna do?!?
Also very contradicting&hypocritical for alot of managers an Bud Selig make HOF despite having cheaters on their teams, in Seligs case he was the commishioner of Mlb, had no problem taking/making money in 98 when McGuire&Sosa had the HR derby season
Oh thats why 1994 strike an MLB was losing money hand over fist… they could have started testing in 1999
but did they?!
Nfl started in 1993 modern era salary cap/free agency, other team sports chose not too
No way that this man stays out of the Hall of Fame. Yeah, dude was juiced. But, he never officially failed an MLB drug test. So, he technically did not break any rules while playing. Put the man in the HoF
He is off the ballot now. Not sure how it will happen but you never know.
Juiced is cheating
Greatest all-around hitter in my opinion
Barry bonds is baseball. Best player in baseball history
Maybe. Definitely a debatable point and whether or not you agree a PED user can be considered the best. Thank you for the comment.
@BBUYTTV
It's not really debatable considering most players of that period were taking steroids...he almost had to take them to compete...
@@malikkimanimaasai3703he was already one of the best players before steroids was he not? so he really didn’t need to take them how many 37 year old baseball players do you know that can hit 73 home runs in a season
@Gman1298
With steroids that's how he hit all those home runs at that age and yes he wuz one of the better players but his contemporaries were on steroids which made them better so in order to compete he had to take them as well...
@@malikkimanimaasai3703 I get that but saying he had to take them to compete is Ludacris it wouldn’t have taken anything away from his already outstanding career but either way he put on a show so i guess that counts for something
He hit homers early in his career WHY DID HE NEED THE STEROIDS. tHIS TAKES NOT ONE THING FROM HIS EXCEPTIONAL QUALITY AS A BALL pLAYER. iT WAS A CHARACTER FAILURE NOT A DIMINISH OF HIS LONGEVITY AND HIS QUALITY AS A PLAYER. hIS NUMBERS ARE PHENOMENAL.
Jealousy in my opinion he hated that Big Mac & Sosa were getting all that attention when they weren't anywhere close to his level.
Thats when baseball was fun to watch. Jose Canseco wrote that book..everybody was on HGH or something. A no name relief pitcher for the yankees, wrote about using HGH, not even a star but a set up man role player confesses, and we have this man hunt on for this great player?
David Ortiz or Jackie Robinson
7 MVPS speaks volumes juiced or not he was productive amazing bat speed fast he was the most feared batter ever the man is a legend and one of the best if not the best player ever!
He even wore the dress but that wasn't enough 😁
There's nothing worse than someone that won't admit to something that even the blind can see. If he would have been truthful from the start, I'd say yea he should be in the HOF, with an asterisk next to his stats of course. At this point though, if he came out today and admitted to it, i would say no. He had his chance many times, and let years go by. That would mean it was only because of his typical Bonds ego, couldn't stand that he wasn't in the HOF.
You are probably right. If he had admitted it he would have received a lot more sympathy. Thank you for the comment!
this AI narration is awful.
The pure talent never left . Hes still the greatest hitter of all time . For him not to be in the hall of fame should be criminal
He was among the absolute best in professional baseball.
Agreed...but with an asterisk. Thank you for your comment!
Hank used greenies when he played..stop with the asterisk stuff
He was no doubt a great player but he went from 35 homers a year to 70 at the end of his career.
He could have been a little more careful to not pump up his numbers so disproportionally
The difference is pretty unbelievable as you highlighted. I would also add how many players hit more HRs in their late 30s and early forties when compared to their 20s.
Bro, he could ALWAYS hit anything they threw at him. Steroid didn't fix his vision. IF he was on roids, just means that the ball went further! What made him a better hitter as he got older is experience and more talent than everyone else!
@@vladimirjackson1272 highly unlikely, given the 100+ years of baseball history where basically no one was better as they approached 40 than earlier in their career. Also hitting the ball further translates into more HRs…hence helping him hit more home runs. Not saying he isn’t a great player, but you can’t overlook the impact steroids had on his career. I think he should be in the hall of fame like the rest of the steroid guys…we just need to acknowledge facts. Thank you for your comment.
💉💉💉💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
SEVEN MVPS......OTHERWORLDLY
Pretty unbelievable!
For me bonds is the best hitter of all time. Steroids or not. The fear he put into the opposite team pitchers. and managers. He always the god given talent again steroids or not.
A lot of people feel that way. There is no doubt he had the talent, it's a shame his career is clouded the way it is. Thank you for your comment!
@@BBUYTTV it really is some of these players and pitchers belong in the hall. If David Ortiz got in then bonds, Clemens, A rodriguez, palmero, sosa, McGuire, m. Ramirez and if I'm missing anyone of the top of my head but all those I mentioned should be hall of famers.
@@gabrielv.2647 I agree they should at least be consistent. Either put them all in or leave them all out. I think you named all of the big ones.
Imagine if Bonds was white 🤔
I'm a Pirates fan, and Bonds was NEVER that feared until the massive amount of PED's as well as a massive amount of body armour. As a matter of fact, he was the guy that never came through in the playoffs for the Pirates. His Giant's career tainted baseball forever. It diminished what guys like Aaron, Mays, Griffey and others did, all because of Bonds narcissist personality.
He was pure talent before roids... pure talent during roids.... pure talent after roids... that's why he was an alien on the diamond and the clear cut GOAT
Bonds is easily the GOAT and it aint even close
I don’t think you will get a lot of support on that due to his PED issues
He never tested positive....case closed
Just by looking at him, you can see Barry Bonds is using steroids!
He was using designer juice. 💉💉💉💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
If we are going to keep him out we need to take the coke heads and the speed guys and the other cheaters already in the hall of fame. Bonds is the best dont hate
Agreed they should either put them all in or leave them all out. Not sure everyone would agree on him being the GOAT though
Coke, amphetamines, adderall, etc. NONE of those help your game like PED's Quit trying to make excuses for Barry BALCO! He did what he did, and that's that! He tainted baseball forever by posting numbers he NEVER would have achieved without the drugs!
Baseball was wayyyyy better with steroids!!!
Some people definitely have that opinion. It definitely was entertaining to watch
Don't care what anyone says Barry is the greatest player I've ever seen and he should be in the hall regardless of what he did he was a hafer before he juiced
Many would agree. I say if you put in one player that is rumored to have taken PEDs you should put them all in. Thank you for the comment.
@BBUYTTV absolutely but another thing everyone loved it when these guy's we're doing their thing you don't think baseball knew what was going on so all these writers need to vote them in oh and they don't like bond's he wasn't nice to them 🤣
@@michael-rc5pv all true. It is such a messy era in baseball. You make great points!
Cheater
Bonds is a weird figure, he was probably a top 20 all time player without cheating. Then he become a parody of the steroid era.
I would say more likely top 10, but we will never know the reality unfortunately
top 20?? What are you smoking?
@@Droppinthehammer agreed top 20 is too low
Barry Bonds is innocent who's the greatest player to ever play this game he should be in the Hall of Fame he is being robbed and discriminated against highly there's never been an athlete in this game close to how Barry Bonds played😊 discrimination and funny ways against this man all that he did for baseball he beat the record so bad they had to walk in the basement bases loaded the after he left this game it's like no one was going to baseball after he left😊
He was drafted out of his by tge giants
You didn't mention this
Your vid is a joke
Bond never tested positive for steroids. Never. The haters of course will hate no matter what.
That’s because BALCO was giving him a steroid that was undetectable from drug tests if they were doing any testing at all in baseball at the time 🤷♂️ very clear he was using steroids lol
@@stillfree1133Some of his glazers in denial. Bonds was juiced to the gills. 💉💉💉💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
@@GreekboyyDBetter than your favorite player with or without it 😭
The greatest hitter of all-time IMO. If I'm building a team of all-time greats he makes the lineup
He definitely belongs in the lineup, I don’t know if I can go as far as saying he is the greatest hitter of all time though. Mays, Williams and Aaron were better in my mind. Thank you for the comment.
Do dugout harmony and locker room drama weigh into this decision?
I'm from Seattle so I'm a Griffey guy by default, but Barry is the best ever.
Many make that case…but the steroids will always hang over him. Thank you for the comment!
That is sad. Bonds actually diminished what Griffey did by cheating the game. Griffey had a stellar career and I question whether Bonds could have even reached that level without the PED's.
MLB was complicit in the matter, so please explain to me why the players have been unjustly demonized???
No doubt about it. Plenty of blame to go around with this issue. It’s frankly a mess with no good solution. Thank you for your comment.
not just mlb. THE MEDIA played just a major role in the steroid era as the players and owners/management. canseco, caminitti and others said mlb had a steroid issue. the media ignored them. when it was their favorite player breaking records. all was good. then when bonds, a media pariah, began obliterating records. "Oh NOW we have a problem."
Unjustly demonized?!? MLB being complicit does NOT exonerate Bonds. He knew exactly what the "cream and the clear" were. He was BALCO as much as Greg Anderson, and Victor Conte were BALCO. He was the poster boy for PED's. He made Sosa and McGuire look like amateurs as far as PED use is concerned. So many people are looking for someone other than Bonds to blame for what Bonds actually did wrong. The narcissist Bonds has only himself to blame.
@@bretth5070
MLB should have to pay out 85% of the profits made during the steroid era back to the same players they've been blackballing from Cooperstown....
I have a different question.
How come Bruce Jenner and every single football player takes steroids....and somehow, no one makes an issue out of that.
Arnold Schwarzenegger was openly using steroids in body building and no one seemed to care.