WoW, Karue you play very fluidly, consistent and powerful. You are also a natural teacher, even during match play you told Winston to keep feet mobile during return of serve. So nice of you. Already subscribed to your channel! Big fan.
Anybody who has played professional level anything, when go back to playing amateur level is almost unfair. For Karue playing an amateur must feel like child's play. No disrespect to Winston.
I don't think there was any unfair "killing" here. It was a wonderful and very informative ego-less demonstration of the difference between players at different levels. The result was probably never in doubt - all in the numbers, but such a match-up is wonderfully useful to players that aren't at pro level (like myself) to demonstrate where to develop strengths and how to be more effective playing stronger players. Full credit to both you guys - we have learned much from both of you for some time now. Cheers from Sydney - Dave
I'm a 50 year old 4.0 player, but I regularly hit with a former 6.0 division I college player still in his 20s. When I first started playing with him, he constantly hit winners on me and we rarely had rallies longer than 4 shots. I kind of played like you in that I hit with a lot of topspin and the ball landed safely in the court with a lot of margin. It worked against players my own level, but it clearly wasn't working against someone far above me. I changed my game drastically in order to keep up with him. I started staying very close to the baseline and refused to get pushed back. That required me to learn how to hit the ball well on the rise. It took time away from him because if he had time, I was toast. I learned how to hit the ball deeper, even with heavy topspin. That reduced his ability to attack my shots. I made use of redirection a lot. He provided so much power, it didn't take much for me to change the direction of the ball with a short backswing and get him moving around the court. Lastly, I learned to flatten out my shots when the time was right. If you constantly use loopy topspin, it's really hard to hit winners or force errors against high level players, even if you are hitting the sidelines. Driving the ball at the right time can either produce winners or put them on their heels. It's not my natural shot, but it's something I had to develop. All of these changes went a long way to making him less comfortable and allowing me to dictate points way more often than before. Even though he's still the better player, things are way less lopsided now, and he definitely noticed. I think those adjustments would help against the high level players you play against. You're a higher rating than I am, so it should be well within your abilities.
We mainly just practiced hitting. The only time we played a set, I beat him 6-1. This was less about me hitting winners and more about him making mistakes. It pays to keep the ball in play. Also, he had shoulder issues and couldn’t serve like he used to. His groundstrokes were fine though.
Yes. Obviously, he’s not a 6.0 anymore. I would probably put him at a 5.0. But he was still in his 20s at the time. I do think certain styles give him problems. He was used to playing big bangers, whereas I am a counterpuncher. I take what you give me and redirect it. I have a lot of trouble with soft hitters because I don’t generate a lot of my own power. And I do think if he had the same serve from his college days, he would’ve won a lot more free points.
That's really the main takeaway I had. If you've ever hit against someone with pro-grade stuff, it looks like they're barely moving. That's because they no there's is nothing you're going to dust past them, so the have very little to guard against. Normals don't hit hard enough to shake them.
Karue kept the ball deep in the center of the court alot with pace, not really a chance to create angles to make him move unless you are as high of a level as he is.
On RUclips you have Tennis instructors who can not hit a top spin backhand and giving instructions on how to hit a backhand. Karue is the real deal. Great player but also excellent on explaining the correct technigue and how to take your game to a higher level
Karue is an ATP/WTA Practice and hitting partner, & makes his living getting high-quality balls back! No way you/any of us are going to out-consistency him! He said it at the end, get balls back and the opponent will start going for broke out of frustration. Great video!
It was really cool to see the difference in pace. When I watch videos of Karue vs Marcos Giron, they are unfazed by the pace and its deceiving to the viewer just how fast balls are because they have good footwork and good at anticipating. This video you can clearly see the difference in the quality/pace of balls between pro and club level. Many of Winston's shots were defensive as he was fighting to stay alive.
Nah Karue wasn’t going big bro... When you watch pros play, you’ll see them do many mistakes because they are pressured to hit bazookas at every shot or else the opponent will just destroy them with a winner. Here Karue knew his opponent wasn’t good enough to do that, so he cut his speed to about 75% to avoid making mistakes by making shots that aren’t even needed to win the point comfortably.
Btw Karue wasn’t holding back by hitting shots at 70-75%, he would have probably lost more points if he actually tried to go for winners because he would have done maybe twice the number of unforced errors. Of course he would still have won 6-0 comfortably.
Man you can see how much work and skill Karue put into refining his game. Every stroke and serve seemed like he was putting in 80% of his game. Looked pretty effortless. Reminded me of how my friend (who played on the Futures and pre at events) hit. So smooth and skillful! Winston you definitely held your own, keep going and you'll continue to get better bro!
it's an eye opener that at this high level of strokes, alot of them are still very safe shots, no crazy angles or down the line shots that are too risky.
i watched a second round U.S. Open match on a side court a few years ago, and I was blown away by how low-risk so many of there shots were. It takes a lot of patience to be willing to wait for the right moment to start being aggressive. And it takes a lot of trust to believe that you can play low-risk and wait for an opening without getting blasted off of the court.
Hi Winston, I’m so proud of you for putting this out there and for the effort you showed on the court. This was some high quality hitting by you and even when you were down, you didn’t resort to desperation tactics. The set point was epic and you should bottle that point construction up and use it for all your matches. My scouting advice for playing Karue: don’t hit the ball to his forehand or backhand. 😂
Very cool of Karue to do this, and great playing considering the circumstances Winston. Why does even the sound of the racket hitting the ball have to be so much better from great players!?
Fun and informative video with great concepts. I know Karue Sell as I had chaired his match where he won the $25k Heritage Banks Tennis Championships in Moraga, CA. He played exactly how he described. The same ideas he shared he used to defeat his opponents. Plus, if I am correct - he is Brasilero!! Good match.
Despite what the score says, there were a lot of impressive rallies. Good job. I know I would be completely steamrolled 40-love every game by a pro-level player.
Just watched Karue’s video from the other side of the court-his commentary is so on point, and the sit-down talk at the end was sharp. You hit a really nice ball when you guys played (that last point was a banger); it’s always an eye-opening experience to be across the net from a extremely high-level player. Thanks for your videos, Winston and Karue!
Excellent content and thank you. A ton of effort goes into this much editing. As for the take-away here - it's so important to stay within yourself in any sport - especially tennis. It's so easy to feel the pressure to ratchet up your game against a stronger opponent. The higher error rate has a psychological effect in that once you've decided that hitting bigger is the way to win, as you fall further behind, you feel even more pressure to hit even bigger shots - a certain doom loop (bit like gambling - throwing good money after bad). At least that's how I have at times felt. Many thanks and cheers from Sydney - Dave
Beautiful courts. 🌴☀️ Also have to note that was an amazing point to end this set on. Had a number of great rallies where you were able to hang with Karue for a bit. Awesome you two were able to network and link up. Was an interesting watch even despite the skill gap and wonderful advice from Karue.
Karue rocks!! way too smooth for against amateur, I enjoyed watching this thanks to both for sharing. The set point was 29 shots rally. Awesome. more power to your channel also to MY Tennis HQ.👏👏👏
Winston, Karue, so dope you guys are supporting each other’s channels! Really neat to see how a pretty strong 4.5 player stands against a pro. Keep up the fun content Winston 🤘🏽
Big respect to both of you, whenever I play a higher level player I always aim to take something from their game into mine. Thank you for th content homie.
That’s prob 80% of his pace lmao… He’s shuffling at more of a regular speed, it’s not that intense for him since he’s just playing a 4.5 level, his footworks are all correct and aren’t sloppy. Maybe he could, idk :0
Great job Winston to get Karue on your video. Very generous of him to appear. I'm also a subscriber of Karue's channel, he has many great contents there as well. Thank you both. 👍👏
Karue is a pro level player, who doesn't want to go the pro circuit threadmill. He is silky smooth, and smart strategically. Also articulate and willing to share his wisdom comprehensively. Content worth watching for all of us. Do more of like equipment reviews and sorts and casual games with known pros, former greats and current likeable pros and you could be the rick shiels of tennis, growing huge fan base.
Hi, Winston's comment was spot on. I think the pressure comes from being out of your comfort zone. As a recreational player, it is very hard to improve and get comfortable unless one plays with advanced players more constantly. It would be nice if you both could consistently play/hit for 1-2 months and record a set again. I feel that Winston would feel more comfortable and be a more interesting match. Thanks!
Hi Winston! Thanks a lot for this video! I love seeing RUclipsr facing each other. I have 2 ideas for videos: - have Karue facing any of the coaches you usually hit with - try to organize a small tournament among RUclipsrs. You could even invite your subscribers maybe
Such a great video! It is so true that no matter the separation in rating the lower player always tries to do too much! I can tell you thatI am guilty of it for sure! I also loved the video because I think some of us wonder what it would feel like to play a pro! Well Winston, thanks for taking that one for us! Not in a hurry to try it!!
What a pleasure to watch someone simply prepare early and hit the ball in front of them. He was always in control of his body. No over-swinging, slappy forehands, no running around backhands- just simple movement and very clean, deep, consistant strokes. Winston, I disagree with your assessment of yourself. I don't think you made more errors today. I think this was maybe the best I've seen you play. He was hitting to keep you in points and you responded very well. You should feel good about how you played. He's just way better and hit the ball deeper in the court and could ground it out longer than you. And, of course, he did what one is supposed to do with a serve by starting the point the way he wanted. He dictated you return. It was a pleasure watching him play the physical chess game which is tennis.
I agree with Karue that consistency and footwork is the key when you are playing a player at higher level. Karue has a very polished game and has world class talent 👏! It was quite enjoyable to watch!
It's really special when you get to play someone of his level. I remember when I first started playing tennis I got to hit with a girl who was ex pro and reached high 400's in the world. It was eye opening how good she was. Karue gave you great advice on the return serve.
It is very nice to see side by side how a world class player is different from a top a recreational player. Especially, it was a pleasant surprise to see Karue who is one of my favorites here!
I thought you did extremely well in the groundstroke exchanges. Some very long rallies there. Karue wasn't trying too hard, going cross court with depth but you kept up with him. Eventually though the consistency broke the deal, and of course the serve was a major difference too.
Thats why you press at the net , sure you will get passed at the net a few times but it puts a little bit of pressure to pass you just sayin. And the point is to keep as much of your energy as possible, oscillating left and right take a lot out of you , thats when playing an open pro will jack you up cuz they will obliterate you stroke for stroke
You should totally play Mason Tran! Most of your video's are at the Racquet Club of Irvine and I believe he trains there so it would be fun to see you or anyone else play him there!
I have not seen your YT channel is about a year but this is the best I have ever seen you play. I know the score says you got your butt kicked, but you rallied well. This was enjoyable to watch. The only minor criticism I have is that if you two had exchanged sides as is normal, it would have been interesting to see how Karues' shots look coming in, instead of just seeing them hit away. Overall, good job, Winston.
Fascinating video....thanks for doing this! I think it's so intriguing to see matchups of significantly different styles and skill. Like a 12 y/o ranked stud vs a 45 y/o 4.5 pusher...or a highly ranked woman against a less skilled but maybe stronger/faster man. Nice stuff!
Last point was great! But Karue just didn't have problems with your really good forehand and backhand shots. Amazing, and just shows how far ahead pros are compared to very good recreational players. Karue is really, really good, and fun to follow with all his positive attitude, talent, dedication to improve and ability to comprehensively share top practise content with all of us.
Great collab fellas. Kudos to Winston putting himself out there and coming out with valuable learning gems for himself and all of us watching. Karue - depth + footwork + one purty looking dub backhand. Go Bruins. 🔥🔥🔥
very impressive performance Wiston, staying on this kind of rallies against such a good player is very hard.. especially your forehand looks super solid
This was really awesome to see. It's always something that we at the rec level are curious about. It was great to showcase how if we clipped your best point, you wouldn't necessarily think it was 4.5 vs. 7.0, but the entire body of the set and the scorecard show the world of difference between you and Karue (respectfully). That's one of the beautiful things about tennis. You can feel so close while being so far away and sometimes vice versa. You can play someone you're on average better than and lose 6-2, 6-2 on an off day, and you can win a match 6-4 6-3 while having a negative point differential. More stuff like this is awesome :D And also if you're not following Karue, it's a big mistake!
What stands out to me first off is the relaxation in his strokes. (I appreciate the stakes are low, and that Karue might be more tense during an actual tournament). Then, of course, the serve. Super interesting to see that you were able to have a couple of decent rallies with him though. I'm somewhere around 4.5/5 level, thought that I'd have no chance in winning more than a point against an ex-pro, and that each rally would be 2/3 shots max. Thanks for the video!
i'm not entirely convinced this was Karue playing as it was a real match. There are definitely points where Karue really turns it up to 80-90% still playing high percentage shots and you can see how the pace immediately rattles Winston and the point ends within 2-3 shots from then on.
@@zando5108 I think you're probably right. There's a part 2 though, where he plays more aggressively, and the rallies are still sometimes longer than I would have expected.
Beautiful set... Wonderful to watch for any club level player... Karue was spot on regarding the 'self imposed pressure' and importance of playing without the pressure... I think that just happened at the very last point with a 27 shot rally and finishing off with a winner. Great lesson to learn from this video. Kudos to both players... 😊👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
such a cool video. Amazing how Karue makes it look so easy yet his coaching was about the basics. Thanks for doing this collab - I was always curious about how good players match up to the really really good players.
Awesome content man. The close-up of the pro player gives you a great perspective of the quality and what he's doing. On the other hand, you could also show a close-up of the amateur player to see the contrast and to assess what you are doing wrong.
Pleasure to meet you, Winston! We’ll link up again
you felt a bit bad for killing him like that, right?👏😁 Very interesting to see the diff rec.level/pro.
WoW, Karue you play very fluidly, consistent and powerful. You are also a natural teacher, even during match play you told Winston to keep feet mobile during return of serve. So nice of you. Already subscribed to your channel! Big fan.
Anybody who has played professional level anything, when go back to playing amateur level is almost unfair. For Karue playing an amateur must feel like child's play. No disrespect to Winston.
I don't think there was any unfair "killing" here. It was a wonderful and very informative ego-less demonstration of the difference between players at different levels. The result was probably never in doubt - all in the numbers, but such a match-up is wonderfully useful to players that aren't at pro level (like myself) to demonstrate where to develop strengths and how to be more effective playing stronger players. Full credit to both you guys - we have learned much from both of you for some time now. Cheers from Sydney - Dave
@@deldridg I argee👏👏👏
I love how he stopped mid-game to give you advice on how to return serves, Karue is defo goated!
I really did learn a lot on returns from Karue's return video
I'm a 50 year old 4.0 player, but I regularly hit with a former 6.0 division I college player still in his 20s. When I first started playing with him, he constantly hit winners on me and we rarely had rallies longer than 4 shots. I kind of played like you in that I hit with a lot of topspin and the ball landed safely in the court with a lot of margin. It worked against players my own level, but it clearly wasn't working against someone far above me. I changed my game drastically in order to keep up with him. I started staying very close to the baseline and refused to get pushed back. That required me to learn how to hit the ball well on the rise. It took time away from him because if he had time, I was toast. I learned how to hit the ball deeper, even with heavy topspin. That reduced his ability to attack my shots. I made use of redirection a lot. He provided so much power, it didn't take much for me to change the direction of the ball with a short backswing and get him moving around the court. Lastly, I learned to flatten out my shots when the time was right. If you constantly use loopy topspin, it's really hard to hit winners or force errors against high level players, even if you are hitting the sidelines. Driving the ball at the right time can either produce winners or put them on their heels. It's not my natural shot, but it's something I had to develop. All of these changes went a long way to making him less comfortable and allowing me to dictate points way more often than before. Even though he's still the better player, things are way less lopsided now, and he definitely noticed. I think those adjustments would help against the high level players you play against. You're a higher rating than I am, so it should be well within your abilities.
Very high level tennis comments! If only you could take this tennis understanding and transport magically back to your 20s.
That's cool.
Did you manage to win a game?
We mainly just practiced hitting. The only time we played a set, I beat him 6-1. This was less about me hitting winners and more about him making mistakes. It pays to keep the ball in play. Also, he had shoulder issues and couldn’t serve like he used to. His groundstrokes were fine though.
@@lurfmonkey let me get this straight, did you a 4.0, beat a 6.0 D1 ex-college player 6-1?
Yes. Obviously, he’s not a 6.0 anymore. I would probably put him at a 5.0. But he was still in his 20s at the time. I do think certain styles give him problems. He was used to playing big bangers, whereas I am a counterpuncher. I take what you give me and redirect it. I have a lot of trouble with soft hitters because I don’t generate a lot of my own power. And I do think if he had the same serve from his college days, he would’ve won a lot more free points.
Karue’s technique is just so beautiful. Watching him you instantly see that he used to be a pro.
Karue looked like he was walking around the court during the points. So smooth it’s almost unfair.
Early ball recognition
That's really the main takeaway I had. If you've ever hit against someone with pro-grade stuff, it looks like they're barely moving. That's because they no there's is nothing you're going to dust past them, so the have very little to guard against. Normals don't hit hard enough to shake them.
@@DNA2000-8bit aka early ball recognition, it might seems they not moving at all but they are actually putting in alot of work
@@harryp3804 you get that we can see your previous comment, really no need to repeat yourself.
Karue kept the ball deep in the center of the court alot with pace, not really a chance to create angles to make him move unless you are as high of a level as he is.
On RUclips you have Tennis instructors who can not hit a top spin backhand and giving instructions on how to hit a backhand. Karue is the real deal. Great player but also excellent on explaining the correct technigue and how to take your game to a higher level
the best match ive ever seen involved in rec player so far on youtube. you managed to bring your best tennis but karue is just too good. bravo
As a high school player it’s so nice to watch high level tennis content like this. Karue is the definition of a goated tennis tuber and tennis player!
Same I'm on my high school team (and pretty bad at that) and I love watching high level footage now I basically do it every day now in my free time 😂
Very nice of you putting Karue on the camera side. Pros move so efficiently even when you make good shots
Karue is an ATP/WTA Practice and hitting partner, & makes his living getting high-quality balls back! No way you/any of us are going to out-consistency him! He said it at the end, get balls back and the opponent will start going for broke out of frustration. Great video!
It was really cool to see the difference in pace.
When I watch videos of Karue vs Marcos Giron, they are unfazed by the pace and its deceiving to the viewer just how fast balls are because they have good footwork and good at anticipating. This video you can clearly see the difference in the quality/pace of balls between pro and club level. Many of Winston's shots were defensive as he was fighting to stay alive.
Nah Karue wasn’t going big bro... When you watch pros play, you’ll see them do many mistakes because they are pressured to hit bazookas at every shot or else the opponent will just destroy them with a winner. Here Karue knew his opponent wasn’t good enough to do that, so he cut his speed to about 75% to avoid making mistakes by making shots that aren’t even needed to win the point comfortably.
Btw Karue wasn’t holding back by hitting shots at 70-75%, he would have probably lost more points if he actually tried to go for winners because he would have done maybe twice the number of unforced errors. Of course he would still have won 6-0 comfortably.
@@lalafuzzy943 Agreed. He took it easy on Winston.
The rally ending at 8:45 is the best I've ever seen you play!
Man you can see how much work and skill Karue put into refining his game. Every stroke and serve seemed like he was putting in 80% of his game. Looked pretty effortless. Reminded me of how my friend (who played on the Futures and pre at events) hit. So smooth and skillful!
Winston you definitely held your own, keep going and you'll continue to get better bro!
it's an eye opener that at this high level of strokes, alot of them are still very safe shots, no crazy angles or down the line shots that are too risky.
NOT TRUE. He wasn't trying to hit winners. Look at his channel he's mic'd up
He was playing to the middle to keep the game interesting, not making any risks at all, otherwise it would be no game to watch :)
@@MrRaviden look at his video on his channel
@@MrRaviden Yeah he would’ve beat him in like 15 minutes 6060 you probably hit one serving and then Winston would go off in a corner and cry
i watched a second round U.S. Open match on a side court a few years ago, and I was blown away by how low-risk so many of there shots were. It takes a lot of patience to be willing to wait for the right moment to start being aggressive. And it takes a lot of trust to believe that you can play low-risk and wait for an opening without getting blasted off of the court.
This is awesome! We need more collabs from different tennis influencers
This is the colab we didn’t know we needed. I’m excited to watch this on my lunch break.
a very good rec player vs a tour lvl player. I really appreciate you made this happen.
Hi Winston, I’m so proud of you for putting this out there and for the effort you showed on the court. This was some high quality hitting by you and even when you were down, you didn’t resort to desperation tactics. The set point was epic and you should bottle that point construction up and use it for all your matches. My scouting advice for playing Karue: don’t hit the ball to his forehand or backhand. 😂
Exactly. If I play him, my tactic would be body shots. I would smack the ball to his body lol.
The consistency of Karue is insane, so efortless putting the ball wherever he wants
Very cool of Karue to do this, and great playing considering the circumstances Winston. Why does even the sound of the racket hitting the ball have to be so much better from great players!?
they have better contact
Pros transfer body weight into their shots better.
I think it's called "correct technique". Something I have none of :(
There’s also the fact that high end players change their strings much more often.
Because he hit through the ball out in front. And he did it the same every time. The strings are probably worn out with a 2-3" area on his racket.
Fun and informative video with great concepts. I know Karue Sell as I had chaired his match where he won the $25k Heritage Banks Tennis Championships in Moraga, CA. He played exactly how he described. The same ideas he shared he used to defeat his opponents. Plus, if I am correct - he is Brasilero!! Good match.
What year was that? I’ve been there a couple of times
@@Tennisbull-match-statistics It must have been 2017. Jovana Jovic and a player from Modesto, CA wons the ladies doubles.
Despite what the score says, there were a lot of impressive rallies. Good job. I know I would be completely steamrolled 40-love every game by a pro-level player.
Karue is poetry in motion.
Just watched Karue’s video from the other side of the court-his commentary is so on point, and the sit-down talk at the end was sharp.
You hit a really nice ball when you guys played (that last point was a banger); it’s always an eye-opening experience to be across the net from a extremely high-level player. Thanks for your videos, Winston and Karue!
the humility of these players is amazing.
This is awesome.
Excellent content and thank you. A ton of effort goes into this much editing. As for the take-away here - it's so important to stay within yourself in any sport - especially tennis. It's so easy to feel the pressure to ratchet up your game against a stronger opponent. The higher error rate has a psychological effect in that once you've decided that hitting bigger is the way to win, as you fall further behind, you feel even more pressure to hit even bigger shots - a certain doom loop (bit like gambling - throwing good money after bad). At least that's how I have at times felt. Many thanks and cheers from Sydney - Dave
First five seconds of watching and seeing Karue's form and positioning "oh s***, poor Winston." I love his economy of motion, so clean and efficient.
The end of match comments are very very insightful. Thanks.
@0:27 as soon as you said trying to hit to his backhand, I died laughing 💀😂 I know karue was trying his best to keep a straight face 🤣
Same, I laughed out loud until Karue corrected him. Karue did make more mistakes off his backhand in this set though.
he has a better backhand than all the former UCLA current pros maybe even osaka
He got the scouting report right. Karue’s backhand was his weaker side, it was just still too solid for Winston to be able to take advantage of it.
Massive Respect Winston! I have seen a few of your videos and now have subscribed.
Karue is tremendous and a really nice guy.
Thanks for sharing this.
Beautiful courts. 🌴☀️ Also have to note that was an amazing point to end this set on. Had a number of great rallies where you were able to hang with Karue for a bit. Awesome you two were able to network and link up. Was an interesting watch even despite the skill gap and wonderful advice from Karue.
Dude what the heck!? I clicked to see the 7.0 then was like Wait, Karue??? Geez looking forward to it. Thanks for doing it!
That last rally was epic.
Wow!!! Two of me favorite tennis RUclips guys duking it out!
Kudos to Wilson for accepting this challenge.
Karue rocks!! way too smooth for against amateur, I enjoyed watching this thanks to both for sharing. The set point was 29 shots rally. Awesome. more power to your channel also to MY Tennis HQ.👏👏👏
Karue making the rounds with collabs, first tennis brothers and now Winston. Good to see. thanks for vid.
Karue technique is so solid that you can just tell every shot is going in. The ball always hits the sweet spot
Winston, Karue, so dope you guys are supporting each other’s channels!
Really neat to see how a pretty strong 4.5 player stands against a pro.
Keep up the fun content Winston 🤘🏽
Hehe, yeah... Karue's backhand is his go-to shot. This was a great collab! Love the sharing of thoughts at the end. Big fan of both of your channels.
Big respect to both of you, whenever I play a higher level player I always aim to take something from their game into mine. Thank you for th content homie.
This illustrates how a player of that level moves so well, and does not crush every ball. Good stuff....keep 'em coming!
It's cute how he's moving his feet, shuffling slowly, hitting at about 50% pace. I could see this guy going beast mode during a real ATP game.
That’s prob 80% of his pace lmao… He’s shuffling at more of a regular speed, it’s not that intense for him since he’s just playing a 4.5 level, his footworks are all correct and aren’t sloppy. Maybe he could, idk :0
Guys like him will probably lose 6-1 6-1 to the Top 100. That's how high the bar is. World class performance is very high.
What a rally @ 8:06! It was awesome seeing you getting used to the pace of the rally as the match progressed. I am sure you had a blast!
I love both your attitudes throughout the video, real insightful. Subscribed to both
Great job Winston to get Karue on your video. Very generous of him to appear. I'm also a subscriber of Karue's channel, he has many great contents there as well. Thank you both. 👍👏
Karue is a pro level player, who doesn't want to go the pro circuit threadmill. He is silky smooth, and smart strategically. Also articulate and willing to share his wisdom comprehensively. Content worth watching for all of us. Do more of like equipment reviews and sorts and casual games with known pros, former greats and current likeable pros and you could be the rick shiels of tennis, growing huge fan base.
wow my two favorite tennis youtubers colab
Hi,
Winston's comment was spot on. I think the pressure comes from being out of your comfort zone. As a recreational player, it is very hard to improve and get comfortable unless one plays with advanced players more constantly.
It would be nice if you both could consistently play/hit for 1-2 months and record a set again. I feel that Winston would feel more comfortable and be a more interesting match.
Thanks!
Hi Winston! Thanks a lot for this video! I love seeing RUclipsr facing each other. I have 2 ideas for videos:
- have Karue facing any of the coaches you usually hit with
- try to organize a small tournament among RUclipsrs. You could even invite your subscribers maybe
Holy fg. This is the most epic vid here so far.
Wow! Two of my fave tennis tubers in action! 🤩
EPIC! The RUclips tennis crossover we needed!! Can you get Karue to play a set vs. Coach Chase?
Such a great video! It is so true that no matter the separation in rating the lower player always tries to do too much! I can tell you thatI am guilty of it for sure! I also loved the video because I think some of us wonder what it would feel like to play a pro! Well Winston, thanks for taking that one for us! Not in a hurry to try it!!
Winston you had some great rallies! Great content and Karue is very good sport thanks for doing this.
What a pleasure to watch someone simply prepare early and hit the ball in front of them. He was always in control of his body. No over-swinging, slappy forehands, no running around backhands- just simple movement and very clean, deep, consistant strokes. Winston, I disagree with your assessment of yourself. I don't think you made more errors today. I think this was maybe the best I've seen you play. He was hitting to keep you in points and you responded very well. You should feel good about how you played. He's just way better and hit the ball deeper in the court and could ground it out longer than you. And, of course, he did what one is supposed to do with a serve by starting the point the way he wanted. He dictated you return. It was a pleasure watching him play the physical chess game which is tennis.
I agree with Karue that consistency and footwork is the key when you are playing a player at higher level. Karue has a very polished game and has world class talent 👏! It was quite enjoyable to watch!
Taking on somebody out of your league like this is one of the best ways to learn. Looked fun.
Winston played great. Karue is from another planet! I usually watch his groundstrokes before i have a match. his smoothness is amazing!
It's really special when you get to play someone of his level. I remember when I first started playing tennis I got to hit with a girl who was ex pro and reached high 400's in the world. It was eye opening how good she was. Karue gave you great advice on the return serve.
8:05>8:45 now that’s a rally! Superb tennis guys
Winston is the glue that brings the RUclips tennis world together. Winston “Da Glue” Du.
It is very nice to see side by side how a world class player is different from a top a recreational player. Especially, it was a pleasant surprise to see Karue who is one of my favorites here!
I thought you did extremely well in the groundstroke exchanges. Some very long rallies there. Karue wasn't trying too hard, going cross court with depth but you kept up with him. Eventually though the consistency broke the deal, and of course the serve was a major difference too.
(it seems that indeed he went for consistency deliberately)
Thats why you press at the net , sure you will get passed at the net a few times but it puts a little bit of pressure to pass you just sayin. And the point is to keep as much of your energy as possible, oscillating left and right take a lot out of you , thats when playing an open pro will jack you up cuz they will obliterate you stroke for stroke
You should totally play Mason Tran! Most of your video's are at the Racquet Club of Irvine and I believe he trains there so it would be fun to see you or anyone else play him there!
I have not seen your YT channel is about a year but this is the best I have ever seen you play. I know the score says you got your butt kicked, but you rallied well. This was enjoyable to watch. The only minor criticism I have is that if you two had exchanged sides as is normal, it would have been interesting to see how Karues' shots look coming in, instead of just seeing them hit away. Overall, good job, Winston.
Fascinating video....thanks for doing this! I think it's so intriguing to see matchups of significantly different styles and skill. Like a 12 y/o ranked stud vs a 45 y/o 4.5 pusher...or a highly ranked woman against a less skilled but maybe stronger/faster man. Nice stuff!
TennisTroll posted that the other day - the 12 yr old junior won pretty easily
Dude its so cool to see where you channel started and where it is now! keep it up!
Last point was great! But Karue just didn't have problems with your really good forehand and backhand shots. Amazing, and just shows how far ahead pros are compared to very good recreational players.
Karue is really, really good, and fun to follow with all his positive attitude, talent, dedication to improve and ability to comprehensively share top practise content with all of us.
Great collab fellas. Kudos to Winston putting himself out there and coming out with valuable learning gems for himself and all of us watching. Karue - depth + footwork + one purty looking dub backhand. Go Bruins. 🔥🔥🔥
very impressive performance Wiston, staying on this kind of rallies against such a good player is very hard.. especially your forehand looks super solid
Wow, I'm a huge fan of My tennis HQ... good job man and I hope your channel keeps getting bigger!
Thanks for posting this! You really get a sense for the gap between Pros and a high quality club player.
Great content. Cool to see the footwork & movement patterns of Karue. He hit almost every ball out in front of him and moved to the ball so smoothly.
Last rally was amazing, great set Winston
Great stuff guys. Karue, appreciate this alot. Winston what a great experience for you.
Great vid !!! Love both channels. Way to hang in there Winston. Thanks for putting this together 👍
Great video… interesting discussion
Interesting watch and good commentary.
Epic. Love Karue. Awesome Winston!
Cheers!
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Karue looks just so chill the whole match. This is a great video
Of course. Winston would be chill the whole match if he played a 2.0 player.
Thanks for posting this play. After watching it I believe it’s all about the return game.
Karue Sell is 1 of the coolest names I’ve ever seen. And a decent person as well.
This was really awesome to see. It's always something that we at the rec level are curious about. It was great to showcase how if we clipped your best point, you wouldn't necessarily think it was 4.5 vs. 7.0, but the entire body of the set and the scorecard show the world of difference between you and Karue (respectfully). That's one of the beautiful things about tennis. You can feel so close while being so far away and sometimes vice versa. You can play someone you're on average better than and lose 6-2, 6-2 on an off day, and you can win a match 6-4 6-3 while having a negative point differential. More stuff like this is awesome :D And also if you're not following Karue, it's a big mistake!
Damn, Karue is a 7.0? God damn.
Great crossover content. Love it.
He's hitting every ball right back to him. Very courteous.
Thank you for posting! I was a 4.0 until 2008, and then took a long break lol
Good match Winston, you had some nice rallies going there. All the best with your channel.
After a few videos, i subscribed to your channel today. Keep them good videos coming.
Awesome video! Karue is legit and that was a great lesson of one of the internal challenges with tennis.
This was fun to watch Winston. Your opponent's split step was so on the point. Fantastic play.
What stands out to me first off is the relaxation in his strokes. (I appreciate the stakes are low, and that Karue might be more tense during an actual tournament). Then, of course, the serve. Super interesting to see that you were able to have a couple of decent rallies with him though. I'm somewhere around 4.5/5 level, thought that I'd have no chance in winning more than a point against an ex-pro, and that each rally would be 2/3 shots max. Thanks for the video!
i'm not entirely convinced this was Karue playing as it was a real match. There are definitely points where Karue really turns it up to 80-90% still playing high percentage shots and you can see how the pace immediately rattles Winston and the point ends within 2-3 shots from then on.
@@zando5108 I think you're probably right. There's a part 2 though, where he plays more aggressively, and the rallies are still sometimes longer than I would have expected.
Tá maluco, Karue joga muito!!! Awesome. Its amazing how Karue plays fluid and effortless. Congrats to Winston! Nice video.
Great play Winston!
Beautiful set... Wonderful to watch for any club level player... Karue was spot on regarding the 'self imposed pressure' and importance of playing without the pressure... I think that just happened at the very last point with a 27 shot rally and finishing off with a winner. Great lesson to learn from this video. Kudos to both players... 😊👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
such a cool video. Amazing how Karue makes it look so easy yet his coaching was about the basics. Thanks for doing this collab - I was always curious about how good players match up to the really really good players.
Great Video Guys :) , by the way where abouts in america are you guys based ?
California, greater Los Angeles area
such a cool vid! your content has been insane these days! thanks for sharing!
Awesome content man. The close-up of the pro player gives you a great perspective of the quality and what he's doing. On the other hand, you could also show a close-up of the amateur player to see the contrast and to assess what you are doing wrong.
Phenomenal final point. Well done, Winston.