So many levels in tennis. He dominated a 4.5 player but only made it to top 60 in college and only a few ATP points. Power like his only gets you so as the competition level rises. Higher level players would hit equally as hard and move him around not letting him set up so easily. In this match the slower ball speed allowed him time to crush the ball on both sides. Great to see the difference in levels play out.
the second serve underhand serve clutch and mint. Love it. Reminds me of playing my school's old #1, my goal was just one game haha. It's fun to play with nothing to lose
Ivan has so much power, he can win on power alone if he's having a good day on accuracy. He seems to move much slower than someone like Govind. Love seeing him whacking balls from up high with so much power haha.
He plays wild. I can see how the power is brutal for amateurs but I can also see why he struggled against others at his level, which he did if you check his matches
Ivan's a fucking monster, man, hahaha. I would love to see coach chase play someone like him, they both have that sort of laid-back-but-will-pull-a-giant-cartoon-hammer-out-of-their-pocket vibe.
@@ChaunceyDos I agree. Clay is the much better player and should win just off the gap in credentials alone. But as a popcorn match it'd be very fun to watch both guys just play battleship and bombard each other with their serves.
I was scared at 1530 that Ivan would hit a FH when Winston was running to the net and then turn to the camera and say, "If he dies, he dies." but he was nice and just dinked a lob.
Hey Winston, I have a suggestion to make it more competitive. I've seen another vlogger that plays table tennis and when he plays against opponents that are way better, they spot him points in the game to help make the match more interesting... We all know by now that if you play guys like Ivan or anyone who's levels above your rating, it's gonna be lopsided. So what about they spot you 30-love on your serve and love-40 on their serve? I mean, they're probably still gonna win but at least they have a little more pressure. I really do enjoy your vids but when you post when you play guys like Ivan, Karue, etc. - I wanna see you have a fighting chance and it could make for more interesting match. Keep up the great work, Winston!
That second game you got against this beast of a player, you were doing everything right. Your movement was exceptional in that game. I think overall your forehand is very solid, your return of serve and backhand were the main differentiators in that match. The backhand was very defensive, not going for a lot and probably no down the lines that I can remember. But it was a great match to watch. This Ivan rips the ball insanely. Especially amazing on the one handed backhand, so much power there. Just WOW.
With that serve and some of those ground shots I would LOVE to see him play either Karue or Hermont. Karue especially since he is a currently playing Pro and nobody has pushed him with power like that (that I have seen). Major props if you can get that to happen
He’s currently a higher UTR than Karue I believe. And while I would love to see that match, I don’t see any way Karue beats him 8-0. Are you forgetting Karue vs Hermont where he lost the first 18 points in a row? On any given day anyone can be at their best. Or worst. That’s why sport is so much fun.
@@MontCoRealtor Ivan's highest UTR was higher than Karue's, but its in the 12s now and Karue is in the 13s. Also, I believe you are referring to the Govind match, not Hermont where Karue lost the first 18 points. Anyway, I agree that it probably wouldn't be an 8-0 skunking, but I also don't think it would be close.
@@maxxvelox2852 You may be right. I don't know why I thought it was Hermont. But thanks for clarifying. I lose these matchups and even if it was a blowout, it would be a fun watch. Thanks brother!
Ivan is an absolute monster😂He has so much powerlolWouldn't surprise me if he could hit 145/150mph on his serve😂 Winston, you did great to get 2 games from a very high level player with silly amounts of power. I think you're playing higher level tennis thsn s 4.5. I'd say you're more of a 5.0 player these days. Great match guys!👊👍
I use the hyper g 16g on my mains at 45 pounds and Genesis 17g on my crosses at 41 pounds, I use the Wilson Profiles 95 and I can feel the ball come off the racquet with more control and power. Do you ever use hybrid stringing patterns? I haven’t been rated since 1998 and back then I was rated a 4.5, today I am currently ranked 7.8 Billion in the world, and by next year I will be ranked 7.7 billion in the world. Great match fellas, I really enjoyed watching this match my friend.
This reminds me of me ( a 4.5) playing my son who was a top college player. I probably win one game as my son has a wicked kick serve which i have more troluble with than his flat serve!! The speed and timing of the college player is unreal. Now, if i only spent the money on MY game vs his game, things might have been different.
My best utr was a 9.0 and i could hang w my 13.2 utr (his highest at time while he played for the Univ of Utah) practice partner. We hit together for about a year and a half. I have an aggressive game so i could hang but the biggest difference was the consistency in these higher utr players. While my winners against my level he would get them back and have to hit one more. He mostly hit a med to med high topspin off both sides but when he let lose his backhand which could be huge his power didnt phase me. We only ever played one set and it shoulda been 64 but i was overly generous on a dbl fault he hit at break point and it was 63 insead. Second set if we ever player one probably woulda been the same.
Maybe playing your hitting partner allowed you to keep the score close like golfers that play their home course sometimes shoot better. A UTR 13.2 should mop the court with a UTR 9.
Yo Winston, there is a tennis tournament held by Racquet Edge at Biola University. Would love to see you play a tourney. My name is Ben. Racquet edge is a tennis shop in Walnut. We have A,B,C and open level. Please join😊
He doesn't have a current UTR, and any estimate now would imply a precision that doesn't exist. He's always played in 4.5 leagues, and he knows his current level would fall within that pretty wide range.
ivan is definitely mental. he does not have patient's to construct points correctly. He could be an amazing player but lacks flexibility and discipline. I think he may have back issues. and mental issues. Sad because a few tweaks this guy could have been much better
i'm an amateur in the sport but its so weird how even with how good these players are, there's still these mistakes that feel uncontrollable (hitting the net, going out too far out of the court). wtf is this sport uggghhh
Improve the pace of your first serve to get easy points and you're an instant 5.0. Your baseline game is already really good, dare I say close to D1 level.
Ivan didn’t look like he was trying. If Winston could challenge him more I doubt Ivan would just try to hit the hardest shots possible risking going out
With respect to Winston for great tennis content, I have little interest to see a usta 4.5 vs D1 player. It's just the gap is too significant. It would be interesting to see either usta 4.5 vs 4.5 or D1 vs D1.
The beauty of Winston’s channel is that you get to see lots of “what if” matchups that you would never see anywhere else….top junior vs D1, D1 woman vs 4.5 male, former ATP pros vs current ATP pros, etc. It really showcases for everyone to see the differences in recreational, college and professional players. There are hundreds of D1 vs D1 matches on RUclips to watch. Keep up the great content Winston.
So many levels in tennis. He dominated a 4.5 player but only made it to top 60 in college and only a few ATP points. Power like his only gets you so as the competition level rises. Higher level players would hit equally as hard and move him around not letting him set up so easily. In this match the slower ball speed allowed him time to crush the ball on both sides. Great to see the difference in levels play out.
Best and funniest set by far. Hearing the other two laughing in the back made it even better.
Bro is an absolute unit. Destruction!
3:23
That immediate look back to the camera says it all 😂
the second serve underhand serve clutch and mint. Love it. Reminds me of playing my school's old #1, my goal was just one game haha. It's fun to play with nothing to lose
Wholesome content. Watched all the way with a smile not even noticing. Good vibes besides the great tennis displayed. Keep the good work! 🙏
Great to hear!
Ivan has all the on court grace of a newly born giraffe.
Ivan has so much power, he can win on power alone if he's having a good day on accuracy. He seems to move much slower than someone like Govind. Love seeing him whacking balls from up high with so much power haha.
Wow 2 games for Winston! 👏🏻
He was only 70% throttle.
"If he dies, he dies" - Ivan's forehand at 8:40
If Drago played tennis...
Winston's reaction was great lol
He plays wild. I can see how the power is brutal for amateurs but I can also see why he struggled against others at his level, which he did if you check his matches
EVERYBODY struggles against players their level!!!! The guy had a 13.64 UTR would play #1 at vast majority of D1 schools.
Another great match on Winston's channel! Thank you to all the guys that came to be on a video with Winston. You're all great players!
Ivan's a fucking monster, man, hahaha. I would love to see coach chase play someone like him, they both have that sort of laid-back-but-will-pull-a-giant-cartoon-hammer-out-of-their-pocket vibe.
I absolutely love watching Ivan play! Such a fun style of play with the big hitting. Well played Winston.
Ivan's shots are like a knife through butter. Very 90's style.
Ivan vs Clay would be a sight to behold
Ivan is great, but I don’t think it would be close. Even if Ivan still has a competitive side we haven’t seen yet.
@@ChaunceyDos I agree. Clay is the much better player and should win just off the gap in credentials alone. But as a popcorn match it'd be very fun to watch both guys just play battleship and bombard each other with their serves.
This guy has so many bad sloppy misses I have no idea how he reached 13.6 utr, as shown by jim losing easily to the 12.5 utr
Who's clay? Clay who? Wanna see this guy
I like the blue guy. Where can i find more of him
I miss coach chase when I was watch this❤ Chase please come to the channel again!!!
Winston, you hit some great forehands!
you did good Winston!!! You got 2 games off of him and you returned most of his serves.
this is so satisfying to watch
Ivan reminds me of del potro, so flat and insanely strong on both sides. 😅 good effort and some good forehands out there Winston!
lol. Shades of ol’ Coach Chase from the channel’s start, right Winston? Way to grind out some games though. Good stuff fellas.
Bryson DeChambeau of Tennis. That power is insane!
Power of his flat shots is crazy haha
youve gotten so damn good dude
The crazy thing is that most of the winners were right at Winston's feet and he still didn't even have time to swing lol
Fantastic set!
Winston’s getting so much better it’s insane
He's basically hitting flat, downhill shots. So sick. I wish was a foot taller just so I could do that!
Thank you for the posting this content.
Love the content Winston! Will you ever film some doubles again?
probably at some point
Dude doesn't even look like he plays tennis. He looks like a GI-Joe walked onto the court and picked up a racket
I was scared at 1530 that Ivan would hit a FH when Winston was running to the net and then turn to the camera and say, "If he dies, he dies." but he was nice and just dinked a lob.
I gotta say, the funnest player to watch is Ivan. I laughed so many times at his raw power.
That was really funny. His power is just insane.
Hey Winston, I have a suggestion to make it more competitive. I've seen another vlogger that plays table tennis and when he plays against opponents that are way better, they spot him points in the game to help make the match more interesting... We all know by now that if you play guys like Ivan or anyone who's levels above your rating, it's gonna be lopsided. So what about they spot you 30-love on your serve and love-40 on their serve? I mean, they're probably still gonna win but at least they have a little more pressure. I really do enjoy your vids but when you post when you play guys like Ivan, Karue, etc. - I wanna see you have a fighting chance and it could make for more interesting match. Keep up the great work, Winston!
Giggles in the commentary made it👨🏻🍳💋. Nice one dude
this dude Ivan introduced himself like 10 times on this channel
This man is a clip machine 😂
omg the 1st serve speed is killing...
A return god! Hard to beat!!!!
Ivan's legs are massive!!
Ivan's forehand looks like it belongs in a 3.5 museum,
We need to see clay vs Ivan!!! Battle of the big hitters
it would be great if you measured the speed of Ivan's shots
That second game you got against this beast of a player, you were doing everything right. Your movement was exceptional in that game. I think overall your forehand is very solid, your return of serve and backhand were the main differentiators in that match. The backhand was very defensive, not going for a lot and probably no down the lines that I can remember. But it was a great match to watch. This Ivan rips the ball insanely. Especially amazing on the one handed backhand, so much power there. Just WOW.
Background commentary +1.
Looked like Ivan was giving 50% effort. hahaha. All good! You'll get him next lifetime! jkjkjk.
11:37 BH return is incredible nothing else to say.
With that serve and some of those ground shots I would LOVE to see him play either Karue or Hermont. Karue especially since he is a currently playing Pro and nobody has pushed him with power like that (that I have seen). Major props if you can get that to happen
Being honest, Karue would have his way with him. He would exploit all the holes in his game. I would love to see that one.
Karue would annihilate him. 8-0 easily.
He’s currently a higher UTR than Karue I believe. And while I would love to see that match, I don’t see any way Karue beats him 8-0. Are you forgetting Karue vs Hermont where he lost the first 18 points in a row? On any given day anyone can be at their best. Or worst. That’s why sport is so much fun.
@@MontCoRealtor Ivan's highest UTR was higher than Karue's, but its in the 12s now and Karue is in the 13s. Also, I believe you are referring to the Govind match, not Hermont where Karue lost the first 18 points. Anyway, I agree that it probably wouldn't be an 8-0 skunking, but I also don't think it would be close.
@@maxxvelox2852 You may be right. I don't know why I thought it was Hermont. But thanks for clarifying. I lose these matchups and even if it was a blowout, it would be a fun watch. Thanks brother!
Ivan is an absolute monster😂He has so much powerlolWouldn't surprise me if he could hit 145/150mph on his serve😂
Winston, you did great to get 2 games from a very high level player with silly amounts of power.
I think you're playing higher level tennis thsn s 4.5. I'd say you're more of a 5.0 player these days.
Great match guys!👊👍
wow that guy has a great serve
Go Bulls 🤘
Wilson’s serve improved a lot
I use the hyper g 16g on my mains at 45 pounds and Genesis 17g on my crosses at 41 pounds, I use the Wilson Profiles 95 and I can feel the ball come off the racquet with more control and power. Do you ever use hybrid stringing patterns? I haven’t been rated since 1998 and back then I was rated a 4.5, today I am currently ranked 7.8 Billion in the world, and by next year I will be ranked 7.7 billion in the world. Great match fellas, I really enjoyed watching this match my friend.
Tennis is f so hard. There is always someone that destroys you bad.
The tennis version of Ivan Drago. Anything he hits he destroys!
nanda vs ivan can be very good matchup!
we need a compilation of every slap
NGL--That 1st attempted return (1st point of the 2nd game), was more like self-defense, for Winston
Ivan using eastern grip @winston?
Curious does Winston only kick serve on the ad side? Just wondering would it be better to hit a flat then kick always as a second?
This guy is the literal definition of a loose cannon
11:36 that backhand return stayed so low, didn’t event bounce up to the wind breaker. Craaaaazy 😮
10:55 the longest rally of the match.
I can't wait
This reminds me of me ( a 4.5) playing my son who was a top college player. I probably win one game as my son has a wicked kick serve which i have more troluble with than his flat serve!! The speed and timing of the college player is unreal. Now, if i only spent the money on MY game vs his game, things might have been different.
My best utr was a 9.0 and i could hang w my 13.2 utr (his highest at time while he played for the Univ of Utah) practice partner. We hit together for about a year and a half. I have an aggressive game so i could hang but the biggest difference was the consistency in these higher utr players. While my winners against my level he would get them back and have to hit one more. He mostly hit a med to med high topspin off both sides but when he let lose his backhand which could be huge his power didnt phase me. We only ever played one set and it shoulda been 64 but i was overly generous on a dbl fault he hit at break point and it was 63 insead. Second set if we ever player one probably woulda been the same.
Maybe playing your hitting partner allowed you to keep the score close like golfers that play their home course sometimes shoot better. A UTR 13.2 should mop the court with a UTR 9.
I wanna see this big guy go up against clay
This dude wasnt even trying after the 1st 2 points...
Love it
11:35 lmaoooo bruh
So curious what s ivan s bodyweight. Should be close to 100 kg from the looks of it
You know whats crazy
What if this D1 player against coach chase
That will crazy make it happen Winston!
Playing Ivan Drago in tennis
Ivan looked like he wasn't even trying hard.
why would he? no need to break an unnecessary sweat.
Am I about to watch Winston get his a$$ kicked again. Fun to come.
I want to see that guy and Dylan will play.
If Ivan Drago played tennis...
Yo Winston, there is a tennis tournament held by Racquet Edge at Biola University. Would love to see you play a tourney. My name is Ben. Racquet edge is a tennis shop in Walnut. We have A,B,C and open level. Please join😊
Why don't you use your utr number in the thumbnail? Lol
😂
He doesn't have a current UTR, and any estimate now would imply a precision that doesn't exist. He's always played in 4.5 leagues, and he knows his current level would fall within that pretty wide range.
@adamlischinsky1497 thanks for explaining. I would do the same actually! 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Try and play a DePaul d1 player
Help me set it up
I'll just let myself out here 11:36
I want Ivan so bad
ivan is definitely mental. he does not have patient's to construct points correctly. He could be an amazing player but lacks flexibility and discipline. I think he may have back issues. and mental issues. Sad because a few tweaks this guy could have been much better
4.5?
8-1?
i'm an amateur in the sport but its so weird how even with how good these players are, there's still these mistakes that feel uncontrollable (hitting the net, going out too far out of the court). wtf is this sport uggghhh
It's just Ivan, dude is playing Russian Roulette on every ball
Should add some handicap
ivan is funny
I look around and I see a lot of new faces..First rule of fight club is...do not talk about fight club. Second rule is..
I want Karue to beat the man in boxers
He plays like Federer
If Federer decided to hit every shot with zero margin and flat (which is not how he plays).
Improve the pace of your first serve to get easy points and you're an instant 5.0. Your baseline game is already really good, dare I say close to D1 level.
Rematch and shirtless please....thanks in advance
he's a freak and atp wouldn't want him krygios didn't last long either showboating did he
Ivan Drago
a 13.6 utr should barely be losing points to a 4.5
Winston is too good!
U know that its not 4.5 utr, right?
hes saying 4.5 ntrp obviously
Ivan didn’t look like he was trying. If Winston could challenge him more I doubt Ivan would just try to hit the hardest shots possible risking going out
@@andreyofdoom he might he always tells Winston he just tries to hit as hard as he can and hope it goes in
4.0 vs D1 college player … what is the point of this
With respect to Winston for great tennis content, I have little interest to see a usta 4.5 vs D1 player. It's just the gap is too significant. It would be interesting to see either usta 4.5 vs 4.5 or D1 vs D1.
Hey maybe you could watch any of the videos that were published immediately prior to this one where he's playing other D1 players.
The beauty of Winston’s channel is that you get to see lots of “what if” matchups that you would never see anywhere else….top junior vs D1, D1 woman vs 4.5 male, former ATP pros vs current ATP pros, etc. It really showcases for everyone to see the differences in recreational, college and professional players. There are hundreds of D1 vs D1 matches on RUclips to watch. Keep up the great content Winston.