You are so correct about not caring about the past. It's even slightly annoying when an old friend or relative brings up a moment they recall from our shared past. In my mind, I'm like, "Yes, of course I remember that. And..?" I have moved on. Way beyond. Lost photos? I don't even care. Forward. Progress. Daily.
It would be VERY interesting to see more videos of this kind. When you show features of an INFJ and another personality type. I think you confirmed in a way that I am an INFJ. At the same time all you said fit to my mom. Although she never wanted to take a personality test she might be an INFP :)
You should do more of these where one letter is different from INFJ. Initial MB tests suggested I was an INTJ, which I though I was for a long time until I learned more and knew where felt ‘spooky’. Personally, I’d love to know about how to differentiate between INFJ and INTJ…
INFJ and INTJ are very close. They both care about better future but INFJ consider long-term happiness comes first. While INTJ consider long-term healthiness comes first. It’s normal for INFJ to act like INTJ in situation they don’t need to think about other people (like choosing something just for themselves) Since at the time like that they’ll use Ti (my logic) instead of Fe (their preference) But when there’s people demand involving into the picture, INFJ will sympathize with them and willingly change the plan. Sympathetic INTJ also change the plan but still considering that demand as obstacle when it detours from the goal.
INFJs are typically warm and bubbly to others (especially people that aren’t close), but cold when allowed to truly be themselves. INTJs can come across as cold and uncaring (dismissive) to people they’re not close to, but they’re actually a bit sensitive emotionally when alone or with close others.
Somehow I just love it that you are currently doing the "basic" MBTI videos, with your own experienced view and mostly centered on INFJs. I have spent thousands of hours diving into the model but I still loved this video and the previous one as well! It is actually a refreshing and precise take! A best friend of mine is an INFP, and your 5 points are very true for myself as an INFJ and him as an INFP. Nice psychological insights!
As an INFJ in relationship with an INFP for more than 20 years, four of the five ways you mentioned fit perfectly. We both worry, though, about people perceiving us as competent. For me, this is largely due to not meeting unrealistic expectations of both parents. But the feeling of my intentions being misunderstood is still strong. Thank you for videos, Wenzes. They are always helpful.
Im an INFJ and I have two INFP friends. That was true for the most part except I want to have broad options too. It scares me to pick sth and stick to it and never look around again. And one of my friends has been very occupied trying moving forward rather than be happy just where they are.
I always get INFP-T, 1. I do the first one, I'm always explaining why I did something. 2. I always want to know why a person is doing something and I want to understand why. So I can see if they are really a bad person or if they just need a push in a good direction. 3. I need PROGRESS, I always want to do more and better. With growing a garden or building something at our house, to make it look nicer. 4. I do tend to be more INFP in this one. 5. I'm future focused, but I do keep all my past things. But I'm more focused on the future, my husband is more past or present focused. I'm very sentimental and that's why I keep pretty much everything. My husband is the entertainer's personality type. ENFP. I'll say if you're an INFJ or INFP, ENFP is soulmate material ❤ I think I'm an INFJ, but have INFP traits, in some things.
@kristennicole5080 The point isn't how you test but works for you. I am reading "How to ADHD" even though I expect I will never be diagnosed as such because information presented helps me. Stay with what helps with WENZES etc.
Im an INFP but I think I can somehow relate to some of INFJ descriptions. People see me as harmless as a dove but Im more of like a wolf. So one time I didn’t mean to respond harshly to my older foreign colleague at work who I treated like a dad while working abroad and they were shocked so even I think I really need to say that I felt sorry for it. But someone belittling me triggers me more because I believe I can do anything if you put your mind and effort into it, it’s just in this world you gonna play the game of thrones and I avoid it. Also the constant improvement thing, I don’t know if it counts but I literally set my bedtime alarm description to “What’s one thing you learned today?”. And I always like something new and always think about my future. Past is just so sad (except music) so why not daydreaming your future in the present lol. But overall the distinction leads me more to INFP.
I believe I'm a INFJ. One thing I noticed about myself is when I've made a mistake in life I look at the future in how not to let it happen again. That is why I have a strong desire to study negative occurrences to understand why it happened. I think to myself, well that sucked. What can I do going forward so that won't happen again or how I can I make sure I won't make that mistake again.
I've been typed by tests as mostly INFJ and MBTI as INFP when I was younger. From typists, I've been typed as INTJ/INFJ. Am I good person or not is really my hang up. Someone once called me a manipulator and another person accused me of turning them against someone they care about... both scenarios I felt were an inaccurate assessment of my character and tested my ability to trust them as this showed they didn't trust me to have good intentions. If I ask questions to understand others and their decisions. I also stay longer to understand what this is about. I need to know how things fit together and sometimes it causes me to stay longer than I should. My Ti wants validation that what I'm building towards is accurate. If my life is stagnate, I sometimes will start making changes to move things forward. Sometimes, blowing everything up all together. Catalyst is a good description. If there is no growth there is no longer purpose. It's not good and works out at the same time. I one was accused of seeing things in a linear fashion. LOL I was caught off guard. It's true... I knew what I wanted to be when I was 10 and have clung to it for dear life despite some unplanned detours... though I'm learning to adopt an Ne way of going about things. I'm learning to try and keep things more open and go with the flow more. With the past, I care about memories and creating experiences for others but that tends to be long range goals of mine. When I was 15 I saved photos from a parent who was going to burn them. I did it with the intention to copy them and give a book to each of my siblings. At 27 I finally completed these books and it took me 10 years to do so. The past seeks to frame the future... a jumping off point of sorts to launch me into the future and reorient myself with my goals. - INFJ
I agree…maybe u should do a few more of these comparison videos. I found the compare/contrast enlightening in better understanding myself compared to others…makes me realize there’s no right way, we are just different
I had a nightmare last night that I couldn’t figure out… it was about an entire community of people rallying against me because they thought I was a bad/mean person… an INFJ nightmare. I’m checking all the boxes. iNFJ 💯
Recommend to read Dreamwork in Psychotherapy and Self-Change by Alvin Mahrer. Quite rare and old book but will beat anything out there, included Jungian authors, to sort out and work on your dreams if you really want to progress and grow. It is also a nice synthesis of all perspectives on dreams. It proposes the best and most practical experiential way to work on your dreams. Check it out, if you really want to do the inner work 🤗
It bothers me when people perceive that I am incompetent. I know that I am more than competent and I am a good person, its just that there are other factors at play. Im notoriously asking "I dont understand" but my grandmother used to say "Keep Living" and I've learned to just let things be and honor how people are making me feel. I do keep a box for my momentos to reflect so that I can keep moving forward.
My percentages are so close to 50/50 that it seems to depend on my mood whether I test as INFJ or INFP. If ppl are going to think negatively about me that's on them, whether they think I'm immoral (LOL!) or incompetent (LOL!) doesn't matter; it's their ignorant disrespect in snap judgments or false accusations that I walk away from. I try not to justify myself to anyone; that's just weak begging behavior. If you're gonna dis' me you're gonna miss me.
adding to the 5 points Wenzes went into, INFJ/INFP can seem similar but they use different functions. personally i also struggle with knowing which i am, but i have an easier time figuring it out for others. the way you write, my inkling would be INFJ. INFPs actually thrive on being seen as a victim and tend to make things very personal and will refer to specific people. INFJs tend to focus more on how things connect on a bigger social sphere and more about maintaining high social standards.
I have exactly the same "problem". The first time I scored 52P, 48J. So I must be an INFP. Three years later I scored 52J, 48P. So then I was an INFJ. When I watch this video I recognize myself in both options😅😅. So it does not really help. Sorry. (No offense to the creator)
The last letter makes a huge difference in the function stack. INFJs are very different than INFPs. May I suggest a video you can create and share why an Ni dominant primary function is seemingly so bizarre to others? Is that what makes us so different?
I'm definitely INFJ. Also, Socionics showed me the same thing, as did the Enneragram. And get this - I even took the IDR Labs test in Spanish and it showed me to be INFJ. SO Im definitely locked in! 😊. I think my best friend in high school was an INFP; your description was very close to what she was like to be with. We were quite compatible as friends. The Myers Briggs Indicator had only been out for about 2 years, so it wasn't as well-known then. In fact, I received a real Myers-Briggs Test in 1985. This video explains a lot and I enjoyed it very much
Great video in differenciating one thing from another! I'm working on this very issue, INFJ or INFP right now. Yes, do more! Thanks much for this VALUABLE video!
Absolutely love your channel and feed. In all honesty, personally, the only thing on the spectrum is the intuitive. The others are pretty line ball. But if you are looking at biosphere collapse, mass genocide, collapse of sustainable systems, mass extinction of most of humanity and other life. The INFJ becomes the dominant mode. When there is not life or death, end of systems as we know it, mass slavery and subjugation, we can chill and revert to the more relaxed forms. It helps to know that souls have two (or more) levels of operation. How they behave when under the pump and life as they know it and systems are about to collapse - INFJ kicks in. Then the more relaxed tolerant versions. Like when souls are paying their fair share of taxes/tithes, nature and humanitys' existence is safe, the biosphere is stable, there is accountability in governance and law enforcement, fair and impartial justice. Complexity, diversity, inclusion, evolution. Some souls are used to playing the token game where each soul has a set number of tokens and if their token is one color and they influence the other tokens of their color, they own the game. These are sociopathic quantitative players. Other souls are qualitative players, and have the ability to switch color on tokens. When the game is going south and extinction is on the cards, they ramp up to do the Life Matters game play. Which is a Sigma INFJ game play. Some of those not reading the "extinction on the cards" agenda, have simply being shuffling deck chairs on the titanic and moving souls into INFP or elsewhere. When you are looking at biosphere collapse, mass slavery, mass genocide. Some of those "relaxed players" become INFJs. If the sociopaths don't want to be dealing with INFJs en masse, stop mass slavery and extinction games. The clever ones will stand down. The others will have to deal with the tsunami. P.S. When INFJs collectively go Life or Death (they are the archetypal prophets of the Abrahamic and other traditions), all the sensible souls recognize the canaries (articulate autistics) have spoken out and get on with "Life Matters" paradigms and precepts.
perhaps THE DISTINGUISHING test to determine IF you are a perceiver or a judger IS in how easy it is for you to order things by ANY sort of ranking. judgers typically have no problem ordering or ranking things. whereas, perceivers ARE more apt to stew over whether one type of approach or another is THE MOST effective or efficient way to order ANYthing. THATS ALL. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) ABSOLUTELY. FOR SURE. - (again) INTJ
I took the Meyer-briggs test ages ago and got INFP. I watched this out of curiosity because it was close between infp and infj. .. But going by these 5 points, I am definitely INFP and I'm happy about that. Not everything ticked, no .. I do prefer depth in lieu of breath of things. But everything else felt spot on.
Thanks for this. It helps with getting clearer. I surely carry the INFJ treats according to your 1,2,3 and 5th points here. But the 4th point - where you speak about leaving things open for more opportunities - is the reason why I'd be question if I'm not actually an INFP. I love to leave things open for new opportunities. I guess I'm an INFJ with a persona that loves to multitask and explore a lot (Manifesting Generator in Human Design might be also playing a part :P).
I feel like I'm a mix between the two. I've taken the test 3 times over the last 15 years at conferences and with friends. Two times I came out INFJ and once INFP. For what triggers me most, I am somewhere in between. I can't stand it if someone thinks I'm a bad person, I get sick to my stomach and want to cry. But if someone thinks I'm incompetent, I get frustrated and it becomes my motivation. I am mostly future oriented unless I'm sad, then I tend to get nostalgic. I am a planner, but I also plan free time or options to provide some spontaneity because if I don't feel like doing something last minute, then I want the freedom to not do it...but even that option is a planned option. So... I feel like most of what I learned here is that I'm still an INFJ, but depending on the situation I have INFP tendencies. lol!
Whether I'm INFJ or INFP. It doesn't matter really, your videos helped me greatly. Also, I bought the Audio Guide and my life has changed to better sense then. Can't thank you enough Wenzes. I wish you all happiness.
So funny. I took one of these tests like five years ago and one the other day. The first one was INFJ the second one was INFP. After watching your video without a doubt I am INFJ. I have to understand!!!!!
The last one about files being lost hurts when a hard drive crashes or lost sd card. Or when i pick up sonething and it takes me back to that feeling. Maybe i feel bed i lost those files because it brings those feelings back. Otherwise those memories dont really come up.
I feel like I’m a blend of almost all of these. I live to reminisce about the past but I’m very future oriented. Is it it possible to be a blend of both? I’m confused.
I relate hard to the first one. It makes me extremely upset when people misunderstand my intentions. Or when people don’t trust me for no reason lol. (Might depend on the person) As an infj i had the worst romantic relationships with infp men. I understand why people think we are similar, but they function so different. Two feelers together is so chaotic
I found everything to be really on point except the first one. I get where you are coming from but I don’t think it would be a clear answer for an infj because I’d say that both can throw me in a loop😅 if someone thinks im immoral AND they make valid points, then yes, that can make me have an identity crisis or make me doubt my whole perception of reality… awful😅 BUT my ego can NOT take being seen as incompetent for something I care about. Im gonna get obssessed over it, it’s gonna make me either very angry or depressed, and then im gonna put a lot of mental energy to find a way to prove them wrong, so both are important to me actually! Basically, I fear being immoral and my ego can’t be seen as incompetent🙃
@@yukon9315then you’re likely an INFP Ni makes INFJ spend lot of time planning things, imagine the perfect future and how to reach it. INFP are great at adapting, Fi encourages them to believe they can handle things when the time comes.
I popped in, but know I am not an INFP. My cusp is INFJ/INTJ. Not sure my description matches...because I didn't match with even #1? Interesting. I am a scientist so I need data. I need and have progress...more than most I know. My backpack works for almost any trip I envision. Yes. Next step. Put those pictures in a safe place. I have lost many pictures. But I don't care. It is only if others care. Felt INTJ for much of my life (or least career) until I realized that helping others was more important than getting ahead.
@@loveherenow. Thank you. I felt very INTJ. But a key time in my career and life in general is when I realized that helping others was so key that I needed to ignore others who told me I was giving away ideas and energy. I needed to share my patentable ideas. I needed to train others. I had to help others at work and also in my broader career network. I took almost 2 weeks to focus more on myself and it sucked. (People told me to do so.) Productivity and motivation went down so much. I felt that if I cannot help others then why not just quit. It was a great learning experience regarding my motivations. I agree I am very INTJ, but without the FE I would just decide to retire. With the FE I plan to work 10+ more years then move to consulting. I love the INTJ approach/planning/PMP etc. but I know that the INFJ part keeps me moving forward. Really appreciate your input. Thank you.
I strive to be more infp. I tested consistently borderline on everything but J. I was very J…..these days in old age I’m borderline. I nurtured the P parts as a step towards more peace of mind. But yeah for cooking…. I cut corners like crazy. I can make almost anything in a deeper skillet with lid that can also go in oven
I think point 1 & point 3 related a bit, I don't want to cut that person off cause it would hurt their feelings, I'm not feeling good so I have to dig deeper to figure what's really going on.
I disagree on the first one Wenzes.... I Hate when someone sees me as incompetent. I relate to another youtuber ( can't remember his name) that says that INFJ's want to be the best tool in the toolbox. Thank you
I'm an INFJ, and I am not concerned with someone thinking I am incompetent because I am also a Sigma male so I don't need validation. maybe it is outside of the 16 types? I dunno.
as you may know, personality is pretty liquid, also no test can say 100% true, since even using the same questions, the answer can change during repeating of doing it, also pointing from Emotional intelligence experiments, that shows up at the first pages of Daniel´s Golleman book. It Shows that nobody is 100% anything, cause droppping extroverted mixed with introverted doing a questionary just to know who is who, and let them wait for an hour talking and doing the same questionary, the results changed and switched the extroverted to introverted and introverted to extroverted. That means that people, tends to replicate also other attitude like your grass is prettier than mine, so i wanna be you.. And specially cause EMTB is not a i´m only emotional, introverted, intuitive and use judge to be, also the test doesn´t reflect the fact that they don´t show the other counterpart of the personality. Cause a emotional being can be rational too. Or perceptive even being mostly "j". So who cares about what they are, also i´ve seen some disturbing videos about the growth of dumb videos talking about SIGMA INFJ?¿ WTH? this people who talk they don´t even should have any choice to post, giving egocentric and narcisistic validation for infj? like becoming narcicistic is a good thing? to be infj or infp, or eSTP or whatever doesn´t mean you are better or less. Is not your videos. But sorry, i dislike to still watching there are more and more plenty of test and test, that are fake. So not doing it. I´m who i am, and no need to have an answer for that, i work every day to become in the better example of myself, and become the best example to others instead of forcing them to become me, or do what i order them to do. I don´t care, is their choice, if people want to destroy the world is on them, not me. I´m tired. Even wanting to help others, is not on me. At least anymore. So sorry, i have to unsubscribe due im´m tired, also dying since many years of slowly pain and left to die alone and people insulting in my face saying i´m doing because i´m stupid.
Normally test comes out as INFJ but not infrequently it comes out as INFP. Dual personality? Looks like INFJ from this, four of five strong. 😅Have noticed when in more of a creative mode and trying to survive regardless of overwhelming insulting hurts and others’ misperceptions of my intentions then try to shift myself into INFP attitude mode if possible. Who cares if somebody got wrong impression about intentions or was insulted, but the reality is, do care. Although I TRY to have an INFP attitude, for mental health, it often just doesn’t happen. Do seem to sometimes have a personality shift sometimes though. It isn’t consistent. Test results aren’t consistent. Do land in both. What is more INFP here. Seems the memory thing is more INFP but also have INFJ attitude on moving forward. Value the memories and seeing the connections that way, and having the memory aids around. (Sometimes both personality types get brought out. Was extremely upset when great grandmother’s things were trashed this year as could not afford storage causing* memories and links from generations to be lost, that came after immigration misinterpreted my intentions and didn’t approve or disapprove work but left me in over a half year of limbo after the postal service didn’t deliver the mail from them and they thought I had sent it back or given a wrong address and then an offer of work suddenly was withdrawn, and the world thought I must be a class A criminal as the review for some work took over a year and immigration asked me to withdraw application, all history destroyed and reputation ruined as I did. It sufficiently control the postal service or convince them toknow who I truly wasand so much more, so my whole history was lost, and my years of efforts towards the future, future destroyed : devastating to both INFJ and INFP sides.) Appears I am a twin, and a serious comedian. Thank you for the RUclipss Wenzes
According to tests I'm an INFP and my wife is an INFJ. We were in Greece a few years ago and had rented a villa in town. Looking around I opened a kitchen cupboard door and saw an enormous brown rat inside. The next morning the holiday rep asked us how the villa was. I said it was great, with a lovely view and authentic charm, but there was a slight problem......at this point my wife interjected with 'just tell him there's a bloody rat living in the villa'. That's the difference in my experience - one pussy foots, the other goes for the jugular.
so the trigger for the Infp is being seen as incompetent, that's inferior Te. why is the trigger for Infj being seen as immoral? isn't that inferior Fi?
I'm actually learning in retirement that I have to be careful due to my quest to understand what is going on. If I'm not careful, I endanger myself & my family seeking answers to my questions. It's too late to just tell me to forget it. My son that I live with now appears to be an INFP. His constant need to be kind to everyone regardless keeps him from walking in some zones I dare to walk into.
What’s REALLY the valid reasoning (if there is anything) behind making these distinctions? All you’re really doing is taking basic human neurosis’s and sub dividing it into white bread vs rye vs wheat, raisin bread… bottom line, it’s still all bread… and yes there will always be different people with differing tastes.. but that’s really NO major revelation, now is it?? Get over this nonsense….
@@rorrschach8339Seems like you are just petty and miserly cheap as hell! You have several hundred free videos that Wenzes has made and yet we have to come across goofy people like you that expect everything for free. You must be fun at parties.
What helps you distinguish between being and INFJ or an INFP?
You are so correct about not caring about the past. It's even slightly annoying when an old friend or relative brings up a moment they recall from our shared past. In my mind, I'm like, "Yes, of course I remember that. And..?" I have moved on. Way beyond. Lost photos? I don't even care. Forward. Progress. Daily.
Your 1,2 and 5 points is actual experience that can confirm about me as an INFJ .
I know where I need to go. I don't need a plan. Make it up along the way. See, I figured it out.
Being considered immoral makes me go out of my mind to explain they don’t see it correctly. Competency is not an issue I know that for myself.
It would be VERY interesting to see more videos of this kind. When you show features of an INFJ and another personality type. I think you confirmed in a way that I am an INFJ. At the same time all you said fit to my mom. Although she never wanted to take a personality test she might be an INFP :)
INFP : I will treasure these memories.
INFJ : Memories fade, but the lessons learned.
"Please believe my intentions are good. Please Lord, don't let me be misunderstood😢"
Nina Simone? Yes!
I'm misunderstood for whole of my life, but God Jesus Christ knows me well. Only a few people understand me. That's our life as an INFJ..
I literally just came to the first infj video to express, "everyone wishes they had the *_infj super power"_*
@@TheVinegarsofLife7I have suffered my whole life especially in my chosen vocation because I’m being misunderstood 😢
Nina!
You should do more of these where one letter is different from INFJ. Initial MB tests suggested I was an INTJ, which I though I was for a long time until I learned more and knew where felt ‘spooky’. Personally, I’d love to know about how to differentiate between INFJ and INTJ…
Given both the INFJ and the INTJ are the subtypes of introverted intuition, I’d love to see a video explaining how those two types are different!
INFJ and INTJ are very close.
They both care about better future but INFJ consider long-term happiness comes first. While INTJ consider long-term healthiness comes first.
It’s normal for INFJ to act like INTJ in situation they don’t need to think about other people (like choosing something just for themselves) Since at the time like that they’ll use Ti (my logic) instead of Fe (their preference)
But when there’s people demand involving into the picture, INFJ will sympathize with them and willingly change the plan.
Sympathetic INTJ also change the plan but still considering that demand as obstacle when it detours from the goal.
INFJs are typically warm and bubbly to others (especially people that aren’t close), but cold when allowed to truly be themselves.
INTJs can come across as cold and uncaring (dismissive) to people they’re not close to, but they’re actually a bit sensitive emotionally when alone or with close others.
Another key to deeper understanding...what is your attachment style? Secure, Anxious, avoidant, or disorganized?
I'm convinced now that I'm an INFJ. It was number 5: future-focused. I want to grow; I want to progress; I want to move forward. Thank you for this.
My 23 yo son was an INFJ.. I'm not just mourning the loss of a child but what felt like part of my soul 😢
I'm sorry. What happened?
Somehow I just love it that you are currently doing the "basic" MBTI videos, with your own experienced view and mostly centered on INFJs. I have spent thousands of hours diving into the model but I still loved this video and the previous one as well! It is actually a refreshing and precise take!
A best friend of mine is an INFP, and your 5 points are very true for myself as an INFJ and him as an INFP. Nice psychological insights!
As an INFJ in relationship with an INFP for more than 20 years, four of the five ways you mentioned fit perfectly. We both worry, though, about people perceiving us as competent. For me, this is largely due to not meeting unrealistic expectations of both parents. But the feeling of my intentions being misunderstood is still strong. Thank you for videos, Wenzes. They are always helpful.
Everything you say resonates with me and comforting knowing someone actually undedstands what I go through...
Im an INFJ and I have two INFP friends. That was true for the most part except I want to have broad options too. It scares me to pick sth and stick to it and never look around again. And one of my friends has been very occupied trying moving forward rather than be happy just where they are.
I always get INFP-T,
1. I do the first one, I'm always explaining why I did something.
2. I always want to know why a person is doing something and I want to understand why. So I can see if they are really a bad person or if they just need a push in a good direction.
3. I need PROGRESS, I always want to do more and better. With growing a garden or building something at our house, to make it look nicer.
4. I do tend to be more INFP in this one.
5. I'm future focused, but I do keep all my past things. But I'm more focused on the future, my husband is more past or present focused. I'm very sentimental and that's why I keep pretty much everything.
My husband is the entertainer's personality type. ENFP. I'll say if you're an INFJ or INFP, ENFP is soulmate material ❤
I think I'm an INFJ, but have INFP traits, in some things.
Right on the head for me as well
Definitely INFJ. I have zero doubts.
Loved this! I relate to everything here as an INFJ but the tests i’ve taken almost always come back INFP 😆
@kristennicole5080 The point isn't how you test but works for you. I am reading "How to ADHD" even though I expect I will never be diagnosed as such because information presented helps me. Stay with what helps with WENZES etc.
I'm an INFJ but a friend at work is an INFP and you are exactly right. I'm going to share this with her😅
Im an INFP but I think I can somehow relate to some of INFJ descriptions. People see me as harmless as a dove but Im more of like a wolf. So one time I didn’t mean to respond harshly to my older foreign colleague at work who I treated like a dad while working abroad and they were shocked so even I think I really need to say that I felt sorry for it. But someone belittling me triggers me more because I believe I can do anything if you put your mind and effort into it, it’s just in this world you gonna play the game of thrones and I avoid it. Also the constant improvement thing, I don’t know if it counts but I literally set my bedtime alarm description to “What’s one thing you learned today?”. And I always like something new and always think about my future. Past is just so sad (except music) so why not daydreaming your future in the present lol. But overall the distinction leads me more to INFP.
I’m an INFJ and my daughter is an INFP. Interesting discussion that resonates. Thank you
I believe I'm a INFJ. One thing I noticed about myself is when I've made a mistake in life I look at the future in how not to let it happen again. That is why I have a strong desire to study negative occurrences to understand why it happened. I think to myself, well that sucked. What can I do going forward so that won't happen again or how I can I make sure I won't make that mistake again.
I’m being 50/50 on both scales. Would love to see more differences b/t these two in your next video 😊
I've been typed by tests as mostly INFJ and MBTI as INFP when I was younger. From typists, I've been typed as INTJ/INFJ.
Am I good person or not is really my hang up. Someone once called me a manipulator and another person accused me of turning them against someone they care about... both scenarios I felt were an inaccurate assessment of my character and tested my ability to trust them as this showed they didn't trust me to have good intentions.
If I ask questions to understand others and their decisions. I also stay longer to understand what this is about. I need to know how things fit together and sometimes it causes me to stay longer than I should. My Ti wants validation that what I'm building towards is accurate.
If my life is stagnate, I sometimes will start making changes to move things forward. Sometimes, blowing everything up all together. Catalyst is a good description. If there is no growth there is no longer purpose. It's not good and works out at the same time.
I one was accused of seeing things in a linear fashion. LOL I was caught off guard. It's true... I knew what I wanted to be when I was 10 and have clung to it for dear life despite some unplanned detours... though I'm learning to adopt an Ne way of going about things. I'm learning to try and keep things more open and go with the flow more.
With the past, I care about memories and creating experiences for others but that tends to be long range goals of mine. When I was 15 I saved photos from a parent who was going to burn them. I did it with the intention to copy them and give a book to each of my siblings. At 27 I finally completed these books and it took me 10 years to do so. The past seeks to frame the future... a jumping off point of sorts to launch me into the future and reorient myself with my goals.
- INFJ
I agree…maybe u should do a few more of these comparison videos. I found the compare/contrast enlightening in better understanding myself compared to others…makes me realize there’s no right way, we are just different
I had a nightmare last night that I couldn’t figure out… it was about an entire community of people rallying against me because they thought I was a bad/mean person… an INFJ nightmare. I’m checking all the boxes. iNFJ 💯
Recommend to read Dreamwork in Psychotherapy and Self-Change by Alvin Mahrer. Quite rare and old book but will beat anything out there, included Jungian authors, to sort out and work on your dreams if you really want to progress and grow. It is also a nice synthesis of all perspectives on dreams. It proposes the best and most practical experiential way to work on your dreams. Check it out, if you really want to do the inner work 🤗
Lord have mercy that was so clarifying you're amazing
Amen.
Please do more videos to distinguish INFJs vs INFPs.
I lean to INFJ... but I sometimes hold on to the past...
I look forward to your videos! 🙌🏻🙂🤙🏼
It bothers me when people perceive that I am incompetent. I know that I am more than competent and I am a good person, its just that there are other factors at play.
Im notoriously asking "I dont understand" but my grandmother used to say "Keep Living" and I've learned to just let things be and honor how people are making me feel.
I do keep a box for my momentos to reflect so that I can keep moving forward.
My percentages are so close to 50/50 that it seems to depend on my mood whether I test as INFJ or INFP. If ppl are going to think negatively about me that's on them, whether they think I'm immoral (LOL!) or incompetent (LOL!) doesn't matter; it's their ignorant disrespect in snap judgments or false accusations that I walk away from. I try not to justify myself to anyone; that's just weak begging behavior. If you're gonna dis' me you're gonna miss me.
adding to the 5 points Wenzes went into,
INFJ/INFP can seem similar but they use different functions.
personally i also struggle with knowing which i am, but i have an easier time figuring it out for others.
the way you write, my inkling would be INFJ.
INFPs actually thrive on being seen as a victim and tend to make things very personal and will refer to specific people. INFJs tend to focus more on how things connect on a bigger social sphere and more about maintaining high social standards.
I have exactly the same "problem". The first time I scored 52P, 48J. So I must be an INFP. Three years later I scored 52J, 48P. So then I was an INFJ. When I watch this video I recognize myself in both options😅😅. So it does not really help. Sorry. (No offense to the creator)
The last letter makes a huge difference in the function stack. INFJs are very different than INFPs. May I suggest a video you can create and share why an Ni dominant primary function is seemingly so bizarre to others? Is that what makes us so different?
Fantastic video, please do more of these!
Great and less obvious examples!
I laughed out loud about the differences in reaction to losing a bunch of files. 😆😆😆 I'll remember that distinction to being an INFJ.
I'm INFP and you described me pretty well with the INFP descriptions lol. I think I'll stick by this channel for critical Ni insights
I'm definitely INFJ. Also, Socionics showed me the same thing, as did the Enneragram. And get this - I even took the IDR Labs test in Spanish and it showed me to be INFJ. SO Im definitely locked in! 😊.
I think my best friend in high school was an INFP; your description was very close to what she was like to be with. We were quite compatible as friends. The Myers Briggs Indicator had only been out for about 2 years, so it wasn't as well-known then. In fact, I received a real Myers-Briggs Test in 1985.
This video explains a lot and I enjoyed it very much
And knowing these distinctions has done what for your life??? Besides satisfying a basic curiosity and a need to label everyone something? And???
Great video in differenciating one thing from another! I'm working on this very issue, INFJ or INFP right now. Yes, do more! Thanks much for this VALUABLE video!
Thank you for this video! ❤
I had wondered this sometimes. INFJ does fit me closer.
Absolutely love your channel and feed. In all honesty, personally, the only thing on the spectrum is the intuitive. The others are pretty line ball. But if you are looking at biosphere collapse, mass genocide, collapse of sustainable systems, mass extinction of most of humanity and other life. The INFJ becomes the dominant mode. When there is not life or death, end of systems as we know it, mass slavery and subjugation, we can chill and revert to the more relaxed forms. It helps to know that souls have two (or more) levels of operation. How they behave when under the pump and life as they know it and systems are about to collapse - INFJ kicks in. Then the more relaxed tolerant versions. Like when souls are paying their fair share of taxes/tithes, nature and humanitys' existence is safe, the biosphere is stable, there is accountability in governance and law enforcement, fair and impartial justice. Complexity, diversity, inclusion, evolution. Some souls are used to playing the token game where each soul has a set number of tokens and if their token is one color and they influence the other tokens of their color, they own the game. These are sociopathic quantitative players. Other souls are qualitative players, and have the ability to switch color on tokens. When the game is going south and extinction is on the cards, they ramp up to do the Life Matters game play. Which is a Sigma INFJ game play. Some of those not reading the "extinction on the cards" agenda, have simply being shuffling deck chairs on the titanic and moving souls into INFP or elsewhere. When you are looking at biosphere collapse, mass slavery, mass genocide. Some of those "relaxed players" become INFJs. If the sociopaths don't want to be dealing with INFJs en masse, stop mass slavery and extinction games. The clever ones will stand down. The others will have to deal with the tsunami. P.S. When INFJs collectively go Life or Death (they are the archetypal prophets of the Abrahamic and other traditions), all the sensible souls recognize the canaries (articulate autistics) have spoken out and get on with "Life Matters" paradigms and precepts.
Progress--yes! My ideal activities--yes! The others are pretty equal... but then, I evaluate right at the J/P midpoint. Nice breakdown!
perhaps THE DISTINGUISHING test to determine IF you are a perceiver or a judger IS in how easy it is for you to order things by ANY sort of ranking.
judgers typically have no problem ordering or ranking things. whereas, perceivers ARE more apt to stew over whether one type of approach or another is THE MOST effective or efficient way to order ANYthing.
THATS ALL. :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
ABSOLUTELY.
FOR SURE.
- (again) INTJ
I came across someone I’d like a lot who I had the suspicion they might be an INFP but can never be sure about it 🥰
I was just thinking and trying to find information about this topic today! Thank you 😊
Thank you, just like you described, I'm an INFJ
I took the Meyer-briggs test ages ago and got INFP. I watched this out of curiosity because it was close between infp and infj. .. But going by these 5 points, I am definitely INFP and I'm happy about that. Not everything ticked, no .. I do prefer depth in lieu of breath of things. But everything else felt spot on.
I have no doubts I’m INFJ
I took two test of the 16 personality, one said I am infj another said infp. After watching your video, I believe I am infj
Thanks for this. It helps with getting clearer. I surely carry the INFJ treats according to your 1,2,3 and 5th points here. But the 4th point - where you speak about leaving things open for more opportunities - is the reason why I'd be question if I'm not actually an INFP. I love to leave things open for new opportunities. I guess I'm an INFJ with a persona that loves to multitask and explore a lot (Manifesting Generator in Human Design might be also playing a part :P).
Very helpful thank you ☺️
I feel like I'm a mix between the two. I've taken the test 3 times over the last 15 years at conferences and with friends. Two times I came out INFJ and once INFP. For what triggers me most, I am somewhere in between. I can't stand it if someone thinks I'm a bad person, I get sick to my stomach and want to cry. But if someone thinks I'm incompetent, I get frustrated and it becomes my motivation. I am mostly future oriented unless I'm sad, then I tend to get nostalgic. I am a planner, but I also plan free time or options to provide some spontaneity because if I don't feel like doing something last minute, then I want the freedom to not do it...but even that option is a planned option. So... I feel like most of what I learned here is that I'm still an INFJ, but depending on the situation I have INFP tendencies. lol!
Whether I'm INFJ or INFP. It doesn't matter really, your videos helped me greatly. Also, I bought the Audio Guide and my life has changed to better sense then. Can't thank you enough Wenzes. I wish you all happiness.
So funny. I took one of these tests like five years ago and one the other day. The first one was INFJ the second one was INFP. After watching your video without a doubt I am INFJ. I have to understand!!!!!
Thank you 😊
The last one about files being lost hurts when a hard drive crashes or lost sd card. Or when i pick up sonething and it takes me back to that feeling. Maybe i feel bed i lost those files because it brings those feelings back. Otherwise those memories dont really come up.
Do a video on the Barnum effect.
Infp 3 - infj 2, I'm essentially an infp, but with several traits of an infj
My biggest trigger being seen as incompetant.....no dought that can get me really triggered especially when it happens when I am aggitated
I feel like I’m a blend of almost all of these. I live to reminisce about the past but I’m very future oriented. Is it it possible to be a blend of both? I’m confused.
I relate hard to the first one. It makes me extremely upset when people misunderstand my intentions. Or when people don’t trust me for no reason lol. (Might depend on the person) As an infj i had the worst romantic relationships with infp men. I understand why people think we are similar, but they function so different. Two feelers together is so chaotic
I feel like I’m more of an INFP 😩 I would like to be INFJ. I definitely bounce between the two depending on my state of mind and life.
self acceptance, I suggest. INFPs are great people. admirable. be proud.
I still don’t know what I am cause I feel like I’m half and half with these things you mentioned. Even when I read I feel it’s split.
I found everything to be really on point except the first one. I get where you are coming from but I don’t think it would be a clear answer for an infj because I’d say that both can throw me in a loop😅 if someone thinks im immoral AND they make valid points, then yes, that can make me have an identity crisis or make me doubt my whole perception of reality… awful😅 BUT my ego can NOT take being seen as incompetent for something I care about. Im gonna get obssessed over it, it’s gonna make me either very angry or depressed, and then im gonna put a lot of mental energy to find a way to prove them wrong, so both are important to me actually! Basically, I fear being immoral and my ego can’t be seen as incompetent🙃
Affirmative affirmation❣️
Honestly, just based on these 5 example, I'm a hybrid. I'd need further diagnosis to really fit a category.
Are you really clean, neat and organized?
@@gs2858 Clean, yes. Neat and organized, nope, never have been.
@@yukon9315then you’re likely an INFP
Ni makes INFJ spend lot of time planning things, imagine the perfect future and how to reach it.
INFP are great at adapting, Fi encourages them to believe they can handle things when the time comes.
I popped in, but know I am not an INFP. My cusp is INFJ/INTJ. Not sure my description matches...because I didn't match with even #1? Interesting. I am a scientist so I need data. I need and have progress...more than most I know. My backpack works for almost any trip I envision. Yes. Next step. Put those pictures in a safe place. I have lost many pictures. But I don't care. It is only if others care. Felt INTJ for much of my life (or least career) until I realized that helping others was more important than getting ahead.
You sound to me like a INTJ who has matured in a very nice way.
@@loveherenow. Thank you. I felt very INTJ.
But a key time in my career and life in general is when I realized that helping others was so key that I needed to ignore others who told me I was giving away ideas and energy. I needed to share my patentable ideas. I needed to train others. I had to help others at work and also in my broader career network. I took almost 2 weeks to focus more on myself and it sucked. (People told me to do so.)
Productivity and motivation went down so much. I felt that if I cannot help others then why not just quit. It was a great learning experience regarding my motivations.
I agree I am very INTJ, but without the FE I would just decide to retire. With the FE I plan to work 10+ more years then move to consulting.
I love the INTJ approach/planning/PMP etc. but I know that the INFJ part keeps me moving forward.
Really appreciate your input. Thank you.
Can you do a video on how you can work out if you are INFP or ISFP?
That settles it. I'm an INFW
lol
I strive to be more infp. I tested consistently borderline on everything but J. I was very J…..these days in old age I’m borderline. I nurtured the P parts as a step towards more peace of mind. But yeah for cooking…. I cut corners like crazy. I can make almost anything in a deeper skillet with lid that can also go in oven
Yeah I know I'm competent I'm more annoyed at the conversation, or repeating than I am bothered or tested.
I think point 1 & point 3 related a bit, I don't want to cut that person off cause it would hurt their feelings, I'm not feeling good so I have to dig deeper to figure what's really going on.
Yeah definitely INFJ
INFP says, an unusually good description of an (my) INFP type 😮🤪🤪🙉
yup
Im definitely an INFJ.
Interesting
On the tests I repeatedly test INFP
I thought I leaned more towards INFJ
this is helpful
Lots of similarities but definitely more INFP
INFJ! 🙌
I disagree on the first one Wenzes.... I Hate when someone sees me as incompetent. I relate to another youtuber ( can't remember his name) that says that INFJ's want to be the best tool in the toolbox. Thank you
I'm an INFJ, and I am not concerned with someone thinking I am incompetent because I am also a Sigma male so I don't need validation. maybe it is outside of the 16 types? I dunno.
1-infp
2-infj
3-infj
4-infp
5-infp and infj
Or BOTH?😊
as you may know, personality is pretty liquid, also no test can say 100% true, since even using the same questions, the answer can change during repeating of doing it, also pointing from Emotional intelligence experiments, that shows up at the first pages of Daniel´s Golleman book. It Shows that nobody is 100% anything, cause droppping extroverted mixed with introverted doing a questionary just to know who is who, and let them wait for an hour talking and doing the same questionary, the results changed and switched the extroverted to introverted and introverted to extroverted. That means that people, tends to replicate also other attitude like your grass is prettier than mine, so i wanna be you.. And specially cause EMTB is not a i´m only emotional, introverted, intuitive and use judge to be, also the test doesn´t reflect the fact that they don´t show the other counterpart of the personality. Cause a emotional being can be rational too. Or perceptive even being mostly "j". So who cares about what they are, also i´ve seen some disturbing videos about the growth of dumb videos talking about SIGMA INFJ?¿ WTH? this people who talk they don´t even should have any choice to post, giving egocentric and narcisistic validation for infj? like becoming narcicistic is a good thing? to be infj or infp, or eSTP or whatever doesn´t mean you are better or less. Is not your videos. But sorry, i dislike to still watching there are more and more plenty of test and test, that are fake. So not doing it. I´m who i am, and no need to have an answer for that, i work every day to become in the better example of myself, and become the best example to others instead of forcing them to become me, or do what i order them to do. I don´t care, is their choice, if people want to destroy the world is on them, not me. I´m tired. Even wanting to help others, is not on me. At least anymore. So sorry, i have to unsubscribe due im´m tired, also dying since many years of slowly pain and left to die alone and people insulting in my face saying i´m doing because i´m stupid.
Can talk about intp and infj
I have a lot from infj and i got in the test infj but i feel im intp and my childhood i was intp so
I want depth AND breadth. ?
Normally test comes out as INFJ but not infrequently it comes out as INFP. Dual personality? Looks like INFJ from this, four of five strong.
😅Have noticed when in more of a creative mode and trying to survive regardless of overwhelming insulting hurts and others’ misperceptions of my intentions then try to shift myself into INFP attitude mode if possible. Who cares if somebody got wrong impression about intentions or was insulted, but the reality is, do care.
Although I TRY to have an INFP attitude, for mental health, it often just doesn’t happen.
Do seem to sometimes have a personality shift sometimes though. It isn’t consistent.
Test results aren’t consistent. Do land in both.
What is more INFP here. Seems the memory thing is more INFP but also have INFJ attitude on moving forward. Value the memories and seeing the connections that way, and having the memory aids around.
(Sometimes both personality types get brought out. Was extremely upset when great grandmother’s things were trashed this year as could not afford storage causing* memories and links from generations to be lost, that came after immigration misinterpreted my intentions and didn’t approve or disapprove work but left me in over a half year of limbo after the postal service didn’t deliver the mail from them and they thought I had sent it back or given a wrong address and then an offer of work suddenly was withdrawn, and the world thought I must be a class A criminal as the review for some work took over a year and immigration asked me to withdraw application, all history destroyed and reputation ruined as I did. It sufficiently control the postal service or convince them toknow who I truly wasand so much more, so my whole history was lost, and my years of efforts towards the future, future destroyed : devastating to both INFJ and INFP sides.)
Appears I am a twin, and a serious comedian.
Thank you for the RUclipss Wenzes
YAY
#3 is the difference between P and J
I think mostly that I am an INFP.
I am an INFJ but always my results shows as INTJ. I think there borderline difference
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This is so confusing because for all points I am both options
According to tests I'm an INFP and my wife is an INFJ. We were in Greece a few years ago and had rented a villa in town. Looking around I opened a kitchen cupboard door and saw an enormous brown rat inside. The next morning the holiday rep asked us how the villa was. I said it was great, with a lovely view and authentic charm, but there was a slight problem......at this point my wife interjected with 'just tell him there's a bloody rat living in the villa'. That's the difference in my experience - one pussy foots, the other goes for the jugular.
That is exactly it. I'm infj, hubs is infp. Im the one to haggle on car prices etc.
Thought INFP's dominant was introverted feeling
Mmm I don't know... I'd died if I lost an SD card with hundreds of pictures through out the years.
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so the trigger for the Infp is being seen as incompetent, that's inferior Te. why is the trigger for Infj being seen as immoral? isn't that inferior Fi?
I'm actually learning in retirement that I have to be careful due to my quest to understand what is going on. If I'm not careful, I endanger myself & my family seeking answers to my questions. It's too late to just tell me to forget it. My son that I live with now appears to be an INFP. His constant need to be kind to everyone regardless keeps him from walking in some zones I dare to walk into.
J
What’s REALLY the valid reasoning (if there is anything) behind making these distinctions? All you’re really doing is taking basic human neurosis’s and sub dividing it into white bread vs rye vs wheat, raisin bread… bottom line, it’s still all bread… and yes there will always be different people with differing tastes.. but that’s really NO major revelation, now is it?? Get over this nonsense….
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it's an audioGUIDE my friend
@@Wenzes Seems your whole grift is dealing in semantics.
seems like it
You don’t have to buy it! She’s amazing. Helped me so much x
@@rorrschach8339Seems like you are just petty and miserly cheap as hell! You have several hundred free videos that Wenzes has made and yet we have to come across goofy people like you that expect everything for free. You must be fun at parties.