The Thing About Brakes Is THIS -- /ENGINEERED
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2016
- Brakes are just an efficient way to convert kinetic energy into heat. What about stopping? Sure, they do that too. In this episode, StopTech engineer Tyler Hauptman delivers a master class in how your car's brakes work, and why you need to know about that, if you want your car to stop.
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These are the best!!
No, YOU!
That is a high compliment.
Engineering Explained and it's official, steel brake lines ARE better.
No offense to EE as I watch his channel a lot, the guys they have do these /Engineered episodes are experts on that specific subject. The one about thermal heat dissipation was exceptional.
Christopher Yurgal Probably depends on who made the OEM lines, what year, what spec, etc. I really enjoyed EE's video on brake lines.
You've gotta give him credit for presenting this video so baked. "The thing about floating calipers is that they float" love it
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He did look a little 'out there' .
This is exactly what I was just going to say. This guy looks and talks so stoned, hahaha.
kain hall guilty, let's call it j-dar, I hope he's in a recreational state and we don't get him in trouble
He's head of the safety meetings at stoptech for fucking suuuure.
Who would have known Wolverine knew soo much about brakes??? Good vid. 👍🏼
that 6 piston caliper is huge it makes my truck caliper look like they should be on a honda.
Houdinii1212 i gave your comment a like even doe i drive a honda
You know our brakes are tiny as hell (at least for older Hondas)
Will that fit on my Honda?
Well most American trucks have way too tiny brakes, so yes, your calipers are probably similar to something from an Accord.
This video is perfection. Every car enthusiast should watch this!
Dad always said, "Make it stop and steer, THEN make it go!"
tom7601 listen to dad
Another interesting video from the engineered series! There is always something extra worth learning or refreshing on! Keep up the good work!
First they bring back a new series with Koenigsegg and now Engineered, /Drive is making all the right choices right now.
Dude who was interviewed was great. He was trying to tell the consumer public about how braking systems are engineered. He was asked questions, and he responded appropriately and factually. The issue is with whoever edited this mess - context of the questions is completely lost, and it makes this guy look stoned. They edited in clips about motorcycle braking in the middle of talking about 4 wheel braking, edited in clips with an overview on the topic in the middle of describing the topic, it was all a complete mess.
Give a bad editor good footage and this is what you get.
Love these engineered videos 👍 Keep them coming!!
Learned more in 17:13 than in a week of studying, nice video 👌
I absolutely love this video! I've been doing my own brakes for years and its wonderful to hear so many of the same principles/conclusions that I've come to, spoken by a professional in the field!
it was also great to hear new information that I didn't know - specifically about knock back and deflection.
It's not advertising... but fuck, it is good advertising.
I never thought I'd watch a 17 minute video on brakes. But Tyler clearly knows what he's talking about. Provides the information and then follows up with why. I feel like I know more about breaks, even just for plain joe like me.
Wow! This was really helpful! I'm getting slotted rotors and stainless brake lines...
Comprehensive intro to brakes. You explained 17 minutes what took me years of mucking around with rotor size, composition, slots, drilled, dimpled, one piece, or two piece. Different pads, brakes regulation adjustment valves. de-glazing pads and rotors before a race meeting. My big problem was in hillclimbs, the car is cold, the tyres are cold, the pads are cold and the 1st brake application is a very steep downhill approach into a hairpin.
This is a great video. Lots of good information about Brakes that often goes overlooked.
Loved this segment the most as it explains the brakes in detail. Loving this channel more and more now.
Great information! Bought my Audi A8L about a year ago & the brakes performed below my standards. Decided to flush the entire system, refill with German made DOT4, and replaced all the soft brake lines with ECS Tuning stainless lines (6 total lines)... everything improved tremendously. Just waiting to wear out these OEM pads, then swap out to a higher performance pad and have a pair of BREMBO's custom slotted. I love this video because I was nodding my head in agreement through 99% of it, great job folks!
This video was really first class. Pretty much sums up what I have been saying about brakes for years. It is impossible to get young gear heads to listen to actual tech. And, there is a definite difference in "feel" when using steel braided brake lines.
Good video, good dose of myth busting. Great camera angles and good editing. People complaining about presenter being high and music being intrusive are not here for information but to be easily entertained. I'd love to talk to this guy and pick his brain on more brakes stuff.
Wow…Learned a ton. Timeless video! Very well done. Kudos to the engineer for giving so many great examples and explaining a complicated system.
This helped me out so much more than reading the forums, this made me more excited to upgrade my braking system.
Thank you guys. i just bought a big brake kit for my gto that has carbon fiber pads. it felt like it didn't want to stop when it was cold but once it warmed up your face hits the windshield. good to know that it's normal.
Super informative! I like this series a lot.
Engineered series for the win! These videos are awesome! Thank you!
I love these! I absolutely geek out on this stuff and always end up wanting to change something on my car now that I know more. Totally getting stainless lines and Dot 4 fluid when I do my brake mods.
The engineered series is one of my favorite keep them coming!
I don't think there's a more professional video on brakes on RUclips..
Awesome video, great stuff to share.
Very professional documentary!
Great job!
Learnt allot from this video, never new about the float problem associated with brake before, will do some home work on this, cheers.
Some more information for those who are curious:
Rotors:
Drilling rotors was an old school way to get weight out of a braking system and in the old days they used to just straight up use a drill to remove it (yikes). They have since become more of a fashion trend then anything. Holes like that can also cause cracks to form and propagate under high heat and load. The main reason people tend to use slotted rotors is actually to scrape away old and hot pad material, so that you do not get a build up of basically melted and old pad material built up. That material can cause uneven wear and an unpredictable system.
Float as he explained is also more or less a feeling than a science. On a system I designed I added float based on the amount of deflection in the outboard assembly (which can be rigged and measured up), the amount off thermal expansion of the rotor material at the temperatures we see and the amount of flex a caliper has when actually braking. I also tend to add a bit more on top as my safety net, usually about 1.2 to 1.3 times that.
Calipers:
It is all about your surface area and upstanding the correct balance of a vehicle. In order to properly spec a caliper certain vehicle kinematic equations must be solved, as well as a understanding of how the entire braking system is set up. The main goals for me have always been weight, balance and reliability. The amount of pistons is irreverent. Having multiple pistons is only to accommodate a larger than normal pad area. Likewise, never ever just buy a front big brake kit for a car. It will throw off your balance and will more than likely cause you to lose braking performance.
Pads:
He said it best, "You can not have your cake and eat it too". Pads are extremely situation and that is because some pads work better than others at different temperatures. It is all about your pad mu or grip. Race pads are designed to produce more "grip" at higher operating temperatures, but at lower temps they are far less superior than even a standard pad you get on a prius. You can find graphs for almost every serious pad on the market to make the correct choice. Also your rotor material can change your pad mu as well, so if you are using iron as opposed to steel your mu is going to change.
Lastly, brakes are just a tool to use up the amount of grip you have at your TIRES. If you want to improve your braking performance try changing your tires first. The perfect braking system will be able to use all of the available grip on both the front and rear tires. If you have bad tires then there is no available grip no matter how crazy your system is.
Sorry for the essay, but hopefully some of you will find it informative :)
this is a great series. thanks
So glad you brought back /ENGINEERED!!!
WOW much learn, very information, such tech. Amaze.
Very, very, very good clip. Thank you!
I just geeked out to max level! Rad video
That explains a lot of things, man this is very informative.
awesome video. so much good info
Excellent video on automotive braking!
Fantastic video !!!
Great piece!
This is a great video. I learned a lot
I agree with braided lines being the best simple upgrade. That and making sure all the basics are in good shape.
one of the best videos ever for upgrading your car
@/DRIVE I love these ENGINEERED videos!! learning a lot ! please keep these coming! and Thank you! :D
Great insight on braking.
Awesome job!
just learned alot!
very informative. great job.
Learned so much from this video, thanks!
Great Info!!!
Good video! It's very informative, thorough, and thought out in terms of various braking topics covered.
I do have a viewer critique: script things out with Tyler to make his information avalanche more fluid. It's already a ton of information, but it feels like he's improvising with the stops and pauses and sometimes subpar explanations. The choppiness makes understanding everything that much more intensive.
Teaching is an under-respected art and skill; you can have all the knowledge in the world (like our man Tyler), but to dumb it down enough for people (like me) while also keeping the accuracy and integrity of information takes a lot of preparation.
Keep it up! (Maybe turn the music down a tiny bit, but I liked it)
Thank you. Learnt alot.
Awesome video!
This is a great video with factual information! It helps to dis-spell a ton of incorrect information.
I'd love to see the full, unedited video though.
WOW Thank you for this video. Awesome!!!
Thank you such a nice video !! Do a video about suspensions !! Staying tuned !
Really great information! I have PowerStop pads and rotors and lately things feel spongy and make a bit of noise. Based on this video I think I need to bleed my brake lines and put in new fluid. Since I bought the car brand new mid 2014 I don't think my lines have been bled. I just get the free/standard tune up from Ford on the warranty plan. I think after my next service in about 5,000 miles I'll get the lines bled and refreshed. I have ceramic pads and stainless steel slotted drilled rotors.
awesome info!!
very informative, thank you!
Excellent video.
the main advantage of a floating caliper set up is cost.
i rate this video as ok. Didnt really explain things that well or touch on many other factors. but its a good starting point to learn from.
Good info, thank you
Another great video.
Love my stoptechs! World of difference vs stock on the track.
Yep, great points on all subjects. Gotta love it when the guys are clamoring for the big brake kits but are still on all-seasons and lower-tier summer tires. "Oh yeah man, this thing totally brakes better now!" ;D
Well done, Tyler
Great video!!!! More of this type of system by system review please.
Very nice! Thanks
I love StopTech. I plan on buying upgrades for my FR-S.
really great video
Thanks for the fire-hose of information.
good video.. thanks mate
Love this video !! :)
Awesome breakdown! :-)
great episode, would have like a segment on upcoming tech or brake improvement.
loved this video. great great great content. Also good marketing to stoptech im taking them more serious now.
the background music is too distracting. please repost without the spooky background music. just let the man talk.
Didn't even notice the background music until I read this comment. I guess I was too interested in listening to what the man had to say.
Hahaha pure disregard for the hard work put into the video.
By the way great video! Lots of detailed info but still concise (which I imagine is very difficult). I know very little about cars, especially brakes, but this video made it very understandable. Background music was a bit loud at some points, maybe tone it down in future videos. Was really only a little distracting when things got pretty complex lol.
Tyler u r the man! Tnx.
good educational video.
really good info
Nice video. I will add that DOT 3 fluid can be used in a vehicle for much longer than DOT 4 without requiring replacement. This is because it is less hygroscopic. I know DOT 3 doesn't really have a place in the racing world, but there is a reason you still find it on the shelf on the auto parts store and it's not strictly because of cost.
I wonder why he didn't mention DOT 5.1 (not DOT 5, which is silicone based fluid), it has an even higher boiling point temperature than DOT 4.
excellent presentation. I have learned a great deal from it. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Pretty cool info.
I have a 87 944 turbo. Not the fastest but I love it and would never give it away. The draw back, well it's age. As I got more power breaks felt a little..scary. And the "mod" I did helped way more than I could ever thought. Steel breaded brake lines. Felt like I had a lot more force and a faster bite.
So informative! No wonder they're #1 in the braking world.
Either I'm just more knowledgeable about cars or this dude gave the best explanation out of the engineering series
They couldn't turn the camera around so that his drawings were not upside down?
Love this series just like Engineering Explained
"there's no disadvantages to buying dot 4 the only one it's gonna cost you slightly more, you're going to have a higher boiling point, uh you know, brake fluid in your car and you know, you're just going to have to pay a little bit more for that."
If you are suggesting buying dot 4 over dot 3 you are wrong the temp difference is minute like under 5% and is not why you use dot 4. If your brake master cylinder reservoir cap states dot 3 you use dot 3 if it states dot 4 you use dot 4 if it states dot 3 or dot 4 then it does not matter but it is best not to mix them.
max matada no I was quoting the guy because he was talking all confused and nervously
so was not just me that though he was really nervous and shy
blackcool77 Yeah I saw it in his voice haha
This guy knows his shit and is very good at explaining it! I learned a lot.
Good stuff... Still prefere the looks of a drilled and slotted rotor. . Bite you want from slots.. And the look of a drilled... Never had one crack... But i don't use track pads on my daily either...
This is a great series. A cheap education and I don't get the feeling they are infomercials. Thanks.
i was surprised to see him recommending DOT 4.
I use DOT 5.1 in my race car, no ABS or anything like that, but just for the higher boiling point of standard fluid. I've not noticed any issues with that.
Brakes are a mix'n'match of various OE brands and makes, aluminium calipers all around.
good job logan explaining brakes....
good vid thanks
Great video. I would have enjoyed if you showed some examples!
DBA 5000 rotors from Australia are the best considering price. 2 piece, slotted and with a patented ‘kangaroo paw’ cooling fin design. Combined with quality EBC pads, HEL braided lines and an upgraded or sleeved master cylinder and you have a braking package as good as anything bar top shelf kits from Alcon or AP Racing for 1/8th of the cost.
Edit:Top shelf Bendix pads are also great.
These type of setups (ducting setup and rotor / pad material dependant.will be sufficient for anything less than a dedicated tarmac racing car.