Documentary Filmmaking: Process of a Pro Editor
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2018
- The editor of the Oscar-nominated documentary "The Square" takes us through his process.
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Mohamed El Manasterly is one of the Emmy Winning editors of "The Square". This 2013 Egyptian-American documentary film by Jehane Noujaim depicts the ongoing Egyptian Crisis until 2013, starting with the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 at Tahrir Square. The film was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature at the 86th Academy Awards. It also won three Emmy Awards at the 66th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards, out of four for which it was nominated.
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This is probably one of the best documentary editing BTS that I’ve seen before! Thank you all so much for sharing!
This is why I love your channel. You not only inform and educate, but you clearly convey the power and importance of editing itself.
Regarding documentaries, I have the highest respect for those who edit them. It’s one thing to cover an individual in a documentary. But, to cover an entire movement of historical importance, like The Square, must have been a truly daunting experience. Now, I have to go watch it. Great content, Sven.
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I love these kinda style of videos, its a really big help to hear straight from industry and get an insight on some of the techniques they use! I know it must be hard finding people to do these videos for you but they are a massive help and you should keep doing them!
Thank you so much for doing this video! I've been planning on shooting a documentary for almost a year now, and was really worried about the editing process, I love editing but have no idea where to begin, learned a lot of great tips and I might finally get started on this!
The square is one of those few movies where I literally was balling by the end, I think the editing had a lot to do with it.
Didn’t watch the Film yet, it’s very heartbreaking for me as an Egyptian and participated in the revolution to even watch those couple of minutes you showed. But it’s very overwhelming to see the passionate crew behind it. Thank you
I walk through a very similar process for my story edits and I landed on that process out of necessity. Watching this is very validating, feels like we're all on the right track.
Glad to read that you see similarities between your process and Micho's
Same for me here :)
Just want to comment this was incredibly inspiring. It helped me to get unstuck in editing my music documentary...
I m only at minute 8, but I want to say it before I forget it : this was easily one of the most informative videos I have watched on youtube, period. thanks a lot @Sven for making it and @Mohamed for sharing your knowledge. you're really helping us out here. one love from Germany.
I've seen this 4 times now and his advice on organisation is incredibly helpful. It's something I resisted since I started editing, but after gaining a little experience and especially after seeing this, it was apparent that it's more than that. Character arcs, themes and big ideas all begin to reveal themselves, as well as the structure and the rhythm of the film. It gives you the ability to fully immerse yourself in the content and the characters before you even make the first cut. Someone who understands a story well can tell it well, and I think that's what separates good films from not so good one's. The ability to captivate an audience depends not just on the content, but how you communicate that content. Organisation helps you do exactly that. Well, that's my take away anyway. Amazing video, thank you so much.
Thanks for the upload Sven! My editing is getting better because of you. Thank you.
This is an incredible episode, thank you so much for this! Super helpful as I move into Feature Length Documentary work!
God, he has an Emmy! 🥺 I remember this and how fast everything was moving and changing, the use of streamed multimedia and social media to journalise what was rolling out as it happened. Really amazing.
Thank you for this! The Square is one of my fav documentaries!
Sven, thank you so much for the suggestion, this is now in my file of Editing and Documentary Video links. I learned alot and I will be watching it again to make sure i get it all. Thank you thank you thank you.
I am new on this topic "editing", but I see the big value on all the info you provide. Thanks very much
Love this video and his process! Thank you for putting this together.
Great advice especially on the staying organized steps.
Such an informative and helpful video - almost wish it was a lot longer but it was definitely packed with enough practical nuggets to get me on the right track to start editing my doc. Thank you!
Thank you..this has revolutionised the whole way I think about organising all my media...the idea about sorting using Timelines/Sequences and Select bins is great...trying this now for a brand new big project. Thanks!
Great video man, keep up the great work!
I love this video. I just got the inspiration to begin shooting a documentary and I'm gearing up for it and starting to research how to prepare for the project. I appreciate all the great insights in this video, and I just ordered Jacob Bricca's book. Thanks, Sven!
I can so can relate to what he says about editing. "Just look at it and it gives you ideas". "Bird eye view" ... Thanks for this great video - Cuts and presentation was VERY entertaining and engaging! 🙂
Really great stuff! I love your channel and your topics. I'm looking forward to the next videos!
I've been lucky enough to work with a BAFTA nominated documentary editor and it's very interesting to see how he follows an almost identical work flow, except he uses actual paper index cards instead of Trello.
I've used Trello for managing other projects but never thought of using it for my doc. Now I'm considering it.
Thank you for writing it out I couldn't make out the name of the app/program lol
There’s now an amazing website called milanote that’s like trello on steroids and is absolutely golden in my editing workflow
So good! Watched it just in a break of editing my first little documentary.
This really helped me dig myself out of an editing hole. Thank you so much for sharing this valuable knowledge.
I really like how he manages the footage. I think I'm going to try this out because I get lost in my projects sometimes.
Thank you so much for this !!! Extremely grateful ❤️
Thank you so much for this!
So interesting watching pros workflow...you are one of my favourite channels if not the favourite channel on RUclips 👏👏👍👍
Love your channel. I'm learning a lot. Thanks.
This is EXACTLY the kind of info I was looking for.. thanks for the great insight!
" I start realizing big ideas. What is the best character we have? What is the most charismatic?". Every story told on a screen is nothing but an embellished perspective. TELL-A-VISION
This was so helpful, thank you!
Very beautiful episode, thank you for sharing your work. I love the square. I usually work with a written script. I prefer to listen and write down things, it goes deeper in understanding the words. Even if I do the editing myself.
Great content. Helpful information! I want to watch the rest of the content on Patreon.
Insightful! I just shot my first documentary and I'm about to start editing it, it'll be a journey!
Wow! I looooved this video! So informative. I am trying to get into film, even though I studied drama, and not sure what exactly I want to do in film. This really inspired me! x
Great video. Thanks for sharing this behind-the-scenes look.
Best BTS on doc editing I've seen, and I've been in the game for awhile. You can never learn enough! Thanks.
wow! what an opportunity to share this knowledge with the world ! thank you
Just love this channel!
And here we learn that editing is not just about cuts, transitions & effects. Glad to discover your channel...
Thanks for suggesting books to read. Much appreciated!
Book marking this! Need to come back and watch this a few times soon!
That was an excellent video. I found Micho's description of how he organized his footage and how he collaborated using Trello very useful. I am also glad that he talked about integrating multiple character arches. Thank you 🙂
Great piece, He uses any & all Nle’s. He’s a true editor.
Unique piece of content!
thank you very much for sharing this video! The tips ads are also very useful.
Thank you for this
absolutely excellent video and insights. bravo
Thanks for this!
Outstanding - thank you xx
This is a phenomenal insight, incredibly put together in it's own right too.
Thank you!
omggggg thank you so much for sharing this!!!!!!!!
Am here again and am loving and enjoying this video
Thanks. Interesting stuff!
I've been lucky enough to score a few Oscar Nominated Doc's and this was great!!!! Editor's are often the heros of a great doc!
Sick video. Full o' gold. I also feel like a noob now
This is fantastic!
Great Video. Very informative!
Haven't watched this yet. But I bet this will be extremely useful for me!
Great video, lots of great input.
invaluable! thank you
If ever I were to make anything, it would be a documentary, so this was nice to see. Thank you for making these.
Very insightful thank you
Wonderful reason I have been a Patreon of your from the beginning Sven
Nice. Trying to get you a little more company :)
Editing a 30min documentary. I'm doing it for a year ALREADY, it's so painful yet so rewarding to see a scene come together.
Best video yet
Love you mate) Just saw my "Boryapavlov")
I love these videos!! 😎
Interesting watching the Title Overlays on the black screen. Notice the evolution of leveraging this screen space! It evolves out of sequence. Thinking it must be an artifact of how the TGE edit process as the content organization occurred, maybe?? An excellent video. How about the power of an exceptional logline 'Life in Forgottonia", just 3 words. Several great concepts covered in this video, well organized and a splendid example of a ' mirror on the process'.
Seeing the details of his workflow was amazing. Please make more videos like this one. I would love to know if his editing process has changed now that automated captions are so common.Does it replace all the markers?
I just tried Trello for the documentary I’m currently editing. Such a powerful tool. I hate the physical board, because it’s so time consuming to move around photos and post-its. You almost become afraid of new ideas for structure, because you know that you have to spend a lot of time fiddling around. Not a very organic process. Something like Trello lets you stay 100% in creative mode. It’s also less time consuming than moving scenes around on your timeline. But I would really like to know more about how he uses this app. Seems like you have more footage of him explaining his method that you cut out..?
I was using Trello for a year now for project management. I never taught of using it for taking notes
this video is a gift for me, thanks a lots.
Great video thank you
Great info from a award winning professional!
A documentary, about a documentary...bravo.
cool video and info thank you
Nice to see someone on Avid LOL. I felt lonely out here. This is great info, thanks so much.
Thank you so much
this is one of the best video in this channel . keep making this type of content flowing. hurra for sven!!
Habibi I love this Thank you
Awesome!!!
That was great. Makes me want to do a much better job of logging my footage better, so I can spend less time watching and re-watching clips to know what to grab. Thanks!
awesome video
It’s good seeing final cut legacy in action.
Awesome story. I would love to see more on the steps to properly set up the project folder, name conventions, the process of creating dailies, etc. Could anyone help with this?
Great video, but I was also wondering what the name of the FONT is used in the thumbnail? It looks great too!
Perfect! I love your stuff and always eager to learn for our travelchannel! Thank you, hopefully you have an amazing day!
Let’s be sure to keep that Emmy in frame....#HumbleBrag
Damn, I've been organizing my footage all wrong. I just create different bins for all the different cameras I used (Cam 1, Cam 2, Cam 3, GoPro, etc). Then I place Themed B-Roll in their own bins and interviews from selected persons in their own bins, but this guy is amazing with his set up. Everything from Topics in the interview to parts of the city. Seems like a lot of admin to do before you actually get into editing.
My dream in life is to make docs. I'm not a hereditary journalist or a sensationalist though so I'm not sure how I'll manage but I have tons of ideas! Just gotta learn videography.
Started the assembly cut of the first Documentary I've ever worked on using similar structure. 100Hrs of raw footage is now down to 10. But I'll be damned if it isn't a headache trying to make that 10 hours into a smooth flowing 2.
I love Trello too. Whatever the new 'young' production houses say, avid still beats Pr for story driven long project stuff.
Bro make new version, this is epic.. 🙏
Well i was searching for this type of content
This was really well done and the best source I could find for this info! I wish this went a little bit deeper into the organization part. Is there a resource you would recommend? Most only touch the high-level organizational concepts, I'd like to see how someone organized all of their selects and sequences and metadata for a documentary. I am at this stage and as you might imagine I don't want to waste a lot of time with a poor workflow. I could waste hours and hours at this point tagging things I will never use or setting things up in a structure that isn't all that helpful.
Anyway, if you have any recommendations I would really appreciate it. I trust your opinion and experience here. Jacob Bricca's book has been my primary guide in making my first documentary film at your recommendation, so thanks for that and all the other great content you've put out. You're one of the few who go below the surface concepts and into what doing the work actually looks like!
has the book been helpful to your editing?
Absolutely it has. I still reference it constantly when planning or editing. It’s always by my desk. It gave me a workflow that works so I didn’t have to labor over one, which is good because I can kill a lot of time in endless planning!
Great video man! I have a question. I've recently decided to get into editing for a career path, after years of thinking about it whilst being stuck in a soul destroying office job. My plan is to purchase a decent filming camera, for around £1000 or a bit more. And I'll start putting together some videos for free to build up a portfolio, as well as working on solo projects, like a tourism advert for my home city, some short films etc. Luckily I have a lot of creative friends and a few connections so I'm sure I'll have no shortage of things to shoot and edit. Once I have a decent body of work I plan to get onto freelancing websites as well as reaching out to people advertising the need for a video editor, maybe even offering to do jobs for less than they're offering in order to get my foot in the door and get some positive reviews.
Does this sound like a good path to take? I'm hoping this will be possible without a degree as I am just teaching myself online and doing a lot of research and note taking. Thanks