MSI Tomahawk Motherboard Issues and Solutions. z790 not posting
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Tomahawk motherboard not working out of the box? Here is the only fix I could find.
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Gigabyte security issue update!!! Make sure to update the Bios on your new motherboard if it doesn't have the newest one from May/June 2023. Luckily, it's super easy to update.
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So your "solution" is not to buy it? Really nice review.
Just to chime in, I have had mine for about 8 months now. Not a problem at all.
Over a year now with my Z790 tomahawk ddr5. Works perfectly and always has. I have my 13700k oc pretty aggressive and ram oc to 7200mhz. All 4 nvme slot populated. I'm using everything this board has to offer. It's been fantastic. Even had the ddr4 version of this board. That one also worked great and I sold it after getting the ddr5 version. I've read up some of these MSI z790 had cracked pch. But idk. But your video is not the first I've seen about these boards. Seems msi had a bad batch or something. My msi z490 tomahawk had issue with bios updates bricking boards because of no bios flash back to revert after the failed flases. And to this day its still an issue for z490 board owners and msi has never fixed it. Msi is lousy in so many ways. But every company has it's faults.
good to know. I just ordered mine. may i ask you if you got default z790 tomahawk or max version?
@@BlueSinX1 The default. The max wasn’t out in early 2023.
I have the same problem with tomahawk motherboard, it seems really common for latest gen MSI boards. Used to like MSI as a brand but their quality is not it used to be.
Here is a solution! (Solved)
I've been fiddling with the mainboard for days. Unlike in the video, my mainboard didn't react at all, except that it flashed red when I tried to flash with USB, which of course was unsuccessful. After a really long trial and error, I wanted to send the mainboard back. But when I removed it, I wanted to know exactly what was going on and wanted to start the mainboard from scratch.
So I only had the mainboard with water cooling and PSU left on the table. It was still not working.
But now I took off the water cooling and remembered that I had used a cooling frame when building my computer to improve the temperature management. When I pulled this cooling frame loose and then short-circuited the two power pins with a screwdriver, the mainboard lit up! From then on I was able to put everything back together and it worked again. So if you are also using one of these cooling frames or have tightened the water cooling too much, try this!
My guess is that the CPU may not have been seated correctly or that the incorrectly attached frame may have exerted too much pressure on one side or something similar.
I really did remove everything else from the mainboard. No memory and no other cables except PSU, water cooling and CPU.
I hope this can help some of you.
If you dont know what i meant with the short-circuit I can explain it in few words. Normally your case is connected with this two pins to start your computer if you click the Power button. This is the signal for the mainbord to start. If you want to look fast if your mainbord works, you can connect this to pins with a screwdriver to do the same like the power button. But please do that only if you know what you do. There are more pins and you dont want to connect two pins which are not made for this.
My setup was: i9-13900, 32GB Ram (2x16 Corsair Vengeance(7200 MHz)), Arctic Freezer 2, RTX 4090
Good Luck!
Thank you. Just suffered a 2nd DOA and trying to make sure I'm not missing something. So funny I recognize you from a completely different "world" :) Appreciate the post!
Got that MB twice now. Both Dead on arrival. Not even a Status LED, plastic bag ripped inside the box while shipping. There has to be one container crashed in the ocean and all the broken boards were sold later, I guess. It's just impossible that some guys bought it over 5 times and it didn't work.
Very sad story because it's the only smart looking MB with promising performance and without rainbow LED and gaming phrases.
Also I do believe that it needs a more secure shipping package.
Agree to all your points. On paper it's a top tier motherboard and those who lucked out and got a winner are probably enjoying a great setup but the amount of lemons being shipped is just not acceptable.
SAME HERE 😮 OMFG.. two DOA z790 mobos. First Tuf Gamin: absolute piece of sh*t. ROA'd for MSI Carbon z790 .. for 100.- more... also DOA.. unbelievable
I have this motherboard and I remember having to wait a long time for the initial post. I then flashed the bios and all is fine with it
Glad it worked out for you because it's a super nice board.
Working with a customer now that bought one from Amazon and it's completely dead in and out of the case, shipped it back for an asus motherboard. I was shocked at how much I've read online about issues. You can't Update the BIOS if you got zero lights and power. Thank you for sort of a review you have posted though.
If you thought the MSI RMA process was bad, wait until you have to deal with Gigabyte's.
Watches video to see if there is a solution. Solution get a new motherboard.😢
crazy, I have 2 b650 tomahawks, one with 7800x3d, one with 7600x. both rock stable, no issues. I also before switching to AM5 had the b660 tomahawk ddr4, was also rock stable. none of these boards ever had no post or boot issues. apart from the common ddr5 ram training which the yellow light will remain on for a few minutes, none just straight up never posted. makes me wonder if this strictly an Intel DDR5 issue or MSI just made a bad batch. MSI is pretty much the only company I've owned products that had no issues. Gigabyte & ASUS all had their issues.
Thanks for sharing this. The "System" for help is pretty much designed to dump the problem on the buyer.
🤣 I remember the days of IRQ jumpers and x86 processors. OS came on three floppy disks.
Good heads up. Just finished a new build myself. Would not post, running 2 M.2 drives, initially thought it was a defective M.2 port or drive itself. Turns out some mobos share the 2nd M.2 port with a SATA bus and would prevent posting. Just moved some of the old SATA cables over to another bank of sata ports and voila. RMA=PITA
it was kinda weird thought i was seeing things as a PC gamer and gun nut thought i got my channels mixed up
Exact same issue for me. Bought off Amazon (shipped all the way to New Zealand) took over a month..aaand no booting at all...except for bios update. Bought another from local - tht had bent cpu pin.
I agree, the Gigabyte Ud is what i always look for but this time i couldn't find any on sale where i am so i bought this MB instead. im not done with it yet so im hoping it works when i done building. had earlier bough like 4 Asus boards that all of them where defective out of the box and im getting tired of this lol. These gigabyte boards are frikkin durable for a long time and i had pored water on one of these i had just to see if they would work again and it do still work today
Thanks for the heads up. I just purchased this board from Best Buy because my Gigabyte Gaming X Z690 shit the bed after a year of use. :) If there is any funny business with it, it will go back in the box and returned to the store. It's Christmas time now, and I didn't want to wait pass the New Year for a board.
Just finished my rebuild. I did have some hurdles to jump in getting this thing up to speed, but that just could of been me. Running good now. To be fair, all makers have good and bad boards, just luck of the draw on if you get a lemon.
I bought it 1 year ago, I have minor problems, like with other plates, but everything works without major problems.
Been running system on this daily for a year, very happy with the versatility and performance. Had some issues setting up m2 drive at first, but managed to adjust BIOS settings and all works out well
yeah could be a good idea ... a make Bios udpate ... the last bios update is not reconized by the mother board ( it's starting well ), i try other version was working on flashing but I got a random BOSD ... humm not good.
Same problem for me...card never start
I boght MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI Z790 DDR5 in 5/22/2023 from Newegg It looks like the Motherboard has been changed Because the packaging had zero padding, no foam inside. no security sticker on box It seems that Newegg Quickly Replaced the faulty MSI Z790 board with a modified one to avoid the malfunction.
and it works fine and I also updated the Bios
You should of checked the ram dimm slots try B1-B2. It was my problem.
I went back and forth with them for a week trying every thing before they agreed it was probably a bad board then said I'd have to pay for the rma shipping.
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Nothing wrong with these boards. The only thing you should do is flash the newest BIOS BEFORE populating the board. It's done without CPU, RAM or SSD. Instructions can be found on the net.
I just bought one, low and behold it does not post
I read about all the bad reviews and issues with this board. But I bought it anyway because I wanted an all black motherboard. Luckily, I purchased from Best Buy. Return and exchange was a breeze. New generation motherboards seem to have more issues, I think. Even Asus boards aren't all that great. I spent the entire day and I could not get it to boot up. No BIOS. Nothing. CPU red light (static) was on. Tried the "Flash BIOS" button to no avail.
Z790 Tom also faulty at my pc here in Germany. Here I had the chance to update the BIOS with flashback, but still at the end it did not post - only showed a CPU issue at debug leds. Returned it and got a Z690 Edge d5 from a local dealer much cheaper. That one does all I want and of course posts. A Z690 has not many disadvantages, but you loose about 2% performance, if you only could overclock your memory from 6800 to 7200 and not from 7200 to 7600. You see... No good mood about the NVME PCI5 thing Z790 has for the price of 8x GPU lanes.
Same problem here with the tomahawk, buyed in amazon.
Since I uploaded this video I've had several people reach out and all were purchased from Amazon. Not sure if there was a defective run shipped to Amazon or if Amazon somehow damaged them. Hope your situation works out.
Bought one at Best Buy, same issue.
DOA parts happen…
Bought a magz790 edge wifi from bestbuy. It was dead on arrival. Had them look at it and they said it was a lemon board. GPU and SSD wouldnt read.
Had MSI Z690 tomohawk DDR4 and i loved it, had to build new one and i got that board and my system kept crashing BSODs left and right.. just hit the return button cant deal with it anymore..might go back to ddr4
I like Gigabyte boards, back when I used to build PC's I used many a Gigabyte boards, never had any issues with them.
Same!! The only thing I can get out of this board is the red bios LED, and the heatsink gets hot. Other than that, dead. I am returning this board.
Same here
i thought this is an AMD thing, i never thought Intel also has such issues
Same problem for me ...never start
I have managed to avoid MSI boards since Socket 754. Wow, I am old!
I have the Z790-A MAX WIFI and have a similar problem. A friend told me to do a bios flash before anything else since I'm trying to use an i7 14700 processor.
Anyhow, the bios flash button flashed away happily then the PC switched itself off completely. Then it turned back on. Nothing else.
The CPU fault light is lit up. Nothing else is except the graphics card lighting. All fans are running. I don't see anything when I connect it to a monitor.
Help? I tried flashing a couple more times and it doesn't do anything differently.
I had the same problem. Try to change you CPU you can use the same model
@@kilhbffvc7011 Turned out to be the opposite problem. I replaced the motherboard and now everything works great.
I also didn't need to do the BIOS flash after all because this specific board version has the first version that works with gen 14 processors installed by default.
mine works.
but the onboard ethernet doesn't. i stuck a cheap lan card in there (TP-Link LAN card "3468") and didn't even need to use the drivers. the thing just worked.
Mine just died after 3 months not used much. I had issues with the system not able to fully shutdown very wierd problem, so while debugging I changed the Bios setting CPU light load mode from 9 to 20 and it died not sure if the board is dead now or the CPU.
I have been reading alot at replaced it whit MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI that dont have this issues, anything about that?
But anyway just because you have got 1 motherboard whit hardware error dont mean all motherboards have this issue it just happens sometimes very normal like all other hardware.
And Gigabyte and Asus customer suppport is just as bad as the rest so if you get problems whit the new motherboard you will have to do the same thing over again.
Just happend to me. Second MSI board with the same issue.
I advise every chance I get, I do not recommend ANY MSI products anymore. I highly recommend switching brands if at all possible.
I am facing the same problem, bought on newegg pff
Every. Single. One. = D.O.A. 😢 (all Z790ies) tomahawk, MSI & ASUS.. just wtf
I bought msi aswell.
Well i can enter bios that says: every other part works. But...
Can´t install an OS since the tomahawk restarts itself into bios after minute leaving bios. Those lights you mention: only activity i have either.
Very disappointed on msi.
So replace and trow 265 euro in garbage?
Msi and store: u build it in so ´no ensurance, good day...´ attitude.😢
Wtf is wrong which such an expensive ´niche´ in life... Any other way to test parts before connecting them before assembly???
Shall i just buy a new motherboard and try build again? 😢
If the store won't help if you used a credit card to purchase sometimes they'll provide additional purchase protection. I'm surprised MSI isn't at least offering the RMA process where you ship it back to them for evaluation and replacement. Every country has it's own rules when it comes to consumer protection...even in the USA many states have different consumer protection laws.
Make sure the bios is in UEFI mode. There's UEFI and CMD? something like that. Just have it in UEFI. That's what your SSD's are in.
Imagine leaving neg reviews and jumping ship because you received a doa mobo. It happens buddy... same with Gigabyte. Come on bro. Wake up.
Hello,I i ordered yesterday the same mobo that you had but it's DDR4 ( MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ). The issue that you had happens only for MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR5 ? I don't want to deal with problems :( And I will pair with I5-14600K but I don't think will be something wrong, hopefully :)
Most people seem to be having the issue with ddr5 boards but not everyone has listed what memory the board is set up for. Best advice is to build the PC as soon as you get the board so you can return it if necessary because it's a great board if it's not doa.
@@deuceandguns Alright, thank you
I just put together the DDR4 version yesterday, assembled the build CAREFULLY in my case, flipped the power switch, watched the LED christmas trees go through their paces a few times (it takes a minute, don't touch anything, let it train memory, etc) and perfect first time. That didn't happen with the TUF gaming version (nightmare!). This board has one of the best back panels for the price. Love me some 20MB USB 2x2 front and back panel and built-in wifi 6E.
Can't speak on the DDR5 version.
@@toddwerther188 Happy to hear that everything worked :) I hope you are satisfied with this purchase.
Take care
@@voracious3835Is it still working?
That was a waste of time.
I had an ASUS X570 crap out on me after 8 months and it just refused to work again. Seems most of these manufacturers are now putting out boards that are not well built and definitely not engineered or tested like they used to be. I have an ASUS Tuf Sabretooth 990 board that after 12 years is still working well. Now that was a properly made board...nowadays...not gonna happen.I was goign to go to a MSI board but after what has happened to you...nope. Think I will go with Gigabyte next time.
i have another problem - my pc wont boot after sleep mode sometimes, fans just spinning full speed and nothing happens, i had to turn off my psu and on again to boot what the hell MSI
This was fixed in a bios update
@@BreakingDimes actually did not, i had to downgrade from h6 to h5 and problem i s gone
Hmm my z790 works like a champ
Consider yourself lucky because it's a great board if it works.
This board is trash, it just looks good and that's all. Received mine back from the RMA process and it still doesn't work
When I first uploaded the video almost a year ago I thought it was simply a bad run of boards but I keep getting comments like this. There must be a major issue with the design.
it works perfectly for me
was that tomahawk came from china? indeed chinese sometimes made a defective product but not all the time because their norinco pistol (banned in usa) is tantamount to dan wesson & wilson combat guns in terms of quality, accuray & duarability except the prices of course to low for the masses who need guns!
Agreed, I've got a Norinco type 56 SKS that just runs and runs.