Chopard Alpine Eagle Vs Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711: A Comprehensive Luxury Watch Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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    The Chopard Alpine Eagle Large 298600-3001 is encased in 41mm of stainless steel surrounding a blue dial on a stainless steel bracelet. Features of this Chopard Alpine Eagle Large include hours, minutes, seconds and date. This Chopard watch also measures 9.7mm in thickness and 47.2mm from lug-to-lug.
    The Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711/1A-010 is encased in 40mm of stainless steel surrounding a black-blue dial on a stainless steel bracelet. Features of this Patek Philippe Nautilus include hours, minutes, seconds and date. This Patek Philippe watch also measures 8.5mm in thickness and 48.1mm from lug-to-lug.
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Комментарии • 258

  • @AmitPal-hj1ze
    @AmitPal-hj1ze 3 года назад +128

    For me the Chopard Alpine Eagle is a modern steel sports watch marvel. It is sad many people do not consider Chopard a horology heavyweight.

    • @gyang333
      @gyang333 3 года назад +3

      It bothers me that Chopard made an effort to claim that they took extra effort to ensure the screws are aligned symmetrically around the dial. But clearly it's not. Some are better while some are worse (like this example).

    • @Pulsonar
      @Pulsonar 2 года назад +10

      @@gyang333 I think you missed the point of what Chopard meant. If you analyse what they’re indicating is they use real screws on the bezel and make a ‘painstaking’ effort to align. Can AP or PP say the same of Royal Oak or Nautilus? No they cannot, so Chopard are already scoring points against ultra high end players in a subliminal way. In fact it’s even better that the screws don’t align the same on every Alpine Eagle watch, so each piece is then unique, and not just another clone. Sounds like a clever bit of marketing on a genuine Swiss masterpiece in my book.

    • @shuycg
      @shuycg Год назад +1

      @@gyang333 is anyone else managing this feat? On a model that's roughly same price?

    • @gyang333
      @gyang333 Год назад +2

      @@shuycg No, but no one else is claiming to do so. I don't know why that's some selling point? I don't care that screws are not aligned (in general).

    • @shuycg
      @shuycg Год назад +1

      @@gyang333 it's clear to me that they've tried to align the screw heads. Maybe that's the best the could do. Maybe the machinery used to create those threads inside the bezel are the limiting factor. I think it's cool, I think it's interesting and I would support them if I had the budget.

  • @arklow3482
    @arklow3482 3 года назад +128

    The Nautius looks cheap next to the Chopard. Sad, but true.

    • @watchok9813
      @watchok9813 2 года назад +12

      Exactly!

    • @casualsuede
      @casualsuede 2 года назад +8

      Especially the logo. I own the Calatrava and the PP logo looks like something from a Chinese $50 special.

    • @488ferc4
      @488ferc4 2 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @bigbrooklynite7058
      @bigbrooklynite7058 Год назад

      Yup, I'm leaning more towards Chopards and Dietrichs now days, that Dietrich SD-1 🍯 🐝 honeycomb is 🔥, especially the tropical green one...Just wish they made the SD-1 in 40 or 41mm, it's a 38.5 mm.

    • @wengjai
      @wengjai Год назад

      Opinions are not facts. Facts!

  • @neilmartin7776
    @neilmartin7776 2 года назад +24

    I'm finding myself more and more drawn to brands like Chopard and Piaget - true watch manufacturers who have somehow bypassed the mainstream collectors for now. If I'm honest, it's Chopard's LUC line that interests me more from their technical movements and exemplary craftsmanship, but this Alpine Eagle has got me rethinking their other watches. The Nautilus is just a pipedream now...
    Sad story, but a few years ago I had the chance to buy a blue dial Nautilus, at retail, for about £18,500. I had to pass at that time, it would have wiped out my savings. But if I'd known then what I know now... Bye-bye mortgage 😭

  • @leonana11
    @leonana11 3 года назад +68

    I have this Alpine Eagle for a year. Became my daily and never get bored from it. Low profile, high quality (insanely accurate) and what's most important, it's freakin' beautiful.
    Could have equipped with better movements like LUC. But still, a very impressive steel sports watch.

    • @Kcseales
      @Kcseales 2 года назад

      Yeah, I wish the movement was better. Debating getting it now. I love the steel they used. Looks like white gold. Which color face did you get?

    • @Pulsonar
      @Pulsonar 2 года назад

      Good report, but why did you have it for only 1 year? If I praised a watch like that it means heirloom material, and my son would be it’s next guardian after I’m gone. Also what did you mean by ‘insanely accurate’ then ‘Could have equipped with better movements like LUC’? Seems contradictory, unless you’re referring to slimness of movement profile or simply with the aesthetics of the view of movement through the sapphire case back.

    • @jeremyeagles3237
      @jeremyeagles3237 Год назад +2

      You said you never got bored of it yet only had it for a year?

    • @Pulsonar
      @Pulsonar Год назад +1

      @@jeremyeagles3237 He never answered when I asked the same, maybe he lost his job, went broke and had to sell it.

    • @jeremyeagles3237
      @jeremyeagles3237 Год назад +1

      @@Pulsonar yeah possibly. Doesn’t matter to me I just wanted to understand where he is coming from.

  • @Pulsonar
    @Pulsonar 2 года назад +16

    The blue dial on the Chopard AE is absolutely sublime. This watch has to be tried on to appreciate the exquisite quality, like I did at an AD whilst on holiday. Good thing the dial was
    the Grey sunburst that I tried, if it was this blue dial I would’ve angered my family by spending all my holiday money on a deposit and bought it on the spot 😂

  • @feedthefatrabbit1073
    @feedthefatrabbit1073 3 года назад +12

    The Patek is not worth 10X the Chopard on any planet. Lmfao. It's laughable to even consider and it's all marketing hype

    • @JaeWhite140
      @JaeWhite140 3 года назад +1

      It looks like a storage unit. 🔒

    • @ericn2206
      @ericn2206 3 года назад

      Just look into the market. No need personal opinions. Which one is the most desirable watch that many many many people must have the most. That’s all.

    • @feedthefatrabbit1073
      @feedthefatrabbit1073 3 года назад +2

      @@ericn2206 it's a comparison video based entirely on specs and personal opinion of the viewers, dummy. I'm aware of the Nautilus market. The same watch was 25G's the day before yesterday prior to Drake and the boys ditching their Rolex crowns.
      If a piece is relatively comparable to something else, it shouldn't be 10% of the cost. That alone shows you the bubble is artificially inflated by fake scarcity on the part of Patek, and the greed of the 2nd hand market.

    • @leonari
      @leonari 3 года назад

      Just because you can’t afford something doesn’t make it laughable in any way. Marketing…. Is it Patek who asks 110k? No. They never did. Never. So GTFU

  • @jrassuranceagency9810
    @jrassuranceagency9810 Год назад +8

    I got my chopard alpine eagle in blue couple days ago and it’s more beautiful in person. Got a lot of compliments every time.

  • @johnm5131
    @johnm5131 11 месяцев назад +2

    Just remember the dark side of owning a Patek. First, they think that they own your watch. You'll understand that comment when you own a few. Second, they won't re-polish the Nautilus cases anymore. They decline nearly every request. The work is simply too great for them. You'll need to send to one of the high end refinisher/restorers. A shame really. They want this to be their "Sport" watch. Yet they cater to people who leave them in vaults.

  • @cjginc31
    @cjginc31 2 года назад +8

    Have had the Chopard AE for about a week now. It is absolutely fantastic. A Rolex DJ is in the same price range but was looking to expand outside of Rolex. Having said that." Would love a Nautilus but couldn't ever justify the $100K grey market price on it. Great review as always!!

  • @christ6874
    @christ6874 3 года назад +34

    I'm placing my order for the Chopard ...... that dial is simply beautiful. Plus it's safer to wear it outside.

    • @johnpark7972
      @johnpark7972 3 года назад +3

      Quite a few muggings of PP in London recently

    • @rousseau327
      @rousseau327 3 года назад +1

      Wait till you see the lucent steel in person. I tried it on before, and thought the dial would be the most attention grabbing thing. But the lucent steel stole the show for me, it's just so much brighter than any of the other SS watches I have.

    • @christ6874
      @christ6874 3 года назад

      @@rousseau327 Chopard has a price increase effective tomorrow, I believe. My AD can’t get me the stock at existing price 😢

    • @christ6874
      @christ6874 3 года назад +2

      @@direction_west thanks Leslie! But Cape Town is a little far from Singapore 😆. My AD can get it but there’s a month’s wait and the discount is a lot slimmer now.

    • @tateshorts5042
      @tateshorts5042 2 года назад

      Great choice enjoy

  • @user-cc3ix3te9v
    @user-cc3ix3te9v 3 года назад +5

    The Chopard Alpine Eagle is so much nicer its not even close !!!!!! It has perfect balance of being gorgeous but yet masculine at the same time. Its steel shines brilliantly like gold yet harder then steel. Super high end looking and felling, great movement, great power reserve but yet decently priced. The Chopard Alpine Eagle is best watch on the market !!!!!!!

  • @itskyyuuuu
    @itskyyuuuu 3 года назад +5

    Chopard is much more visually appealing.

  • @wjs1
    @wjs1 3 года назад +4

    Been a while since I watched a review of the 5711. Such an incredibly ugly watch. Honestly, if you strip away the hype it looks like an old TV set, the bracelet is flimsy and the date disc stands out like a sore thumb. Plus the movement is low end for Patek - nothing close to their 240 micro-rotor. The Chopard is obviously the copycat but is executed with a much more contemporary look and feel and the dial is wonderful. The 5711 is worth its retail price and no more. Amazing what hype, social media and rappers can do!

    • @SunsetSheen
      @SunsetSheen 2 года назад

      Couldn’t agree more about the patek’s date complication. Such a poorly executed date window. Unframed date window, cuts into the minute track, date disc is white, and it’s not properly aligned with the other indices. I don’t get all the hype.

  • @Nefville
    @Nefville 3 года назад +5

    Money no object, Patek, my money, Chopard. The Chopard is 90% of the Patek for 10.9% of the price. So if you want to make this fair it should be 1 Nautilus to 10 Alpine Eagles.

    • @LlyleHunter
      @LlyleHunter 3 года назад

      You can buy Chopard for your whole family if you really like all of them.

  • @feno5383
    @feno5383 Год назад +2

    Chopard watch is nicer

  • @19NJS71
    @19NJS71 3 года назад +5

    At 3 times as much retail, the Patek should be offering more

  • @tackontitan
    @tackontitan 3 года назад +4

    Hacking seconds on a Nautilus?! You spoil us, ambassador!!

  • @5OclockSharp
    @5OclockSharp 3 года назад +4

    Maybe it’s different in person, but the nautilus dial can’t even hold a candle to the alpine eagles dial.

  • @onceuponascale
    @onceuponascale 5 месяцев назад +1

    If i did not know the price. The Chopard. Without hesitation. If i knew the price, the Chopard, so i can do sonething more constructive with the money saved. If everybody knows the price. The patek. So i an show everyone how wealthy i am. Much like why everybody wants this watch.

  • @go.for.m.o.
    @go.for.m.o. 3 года назад +7

    I LOVE this series - keep 'em coming!
    Couldn't agree more with your final determination, sir! Chopard for me, please.

  • @tateshorts5042
    @tateshorts5042 2 года назад +3

    Honest would be the chopard for me. Many people would go for the patek only on the fact it’s got a huge return on profit. I feel there aren’t many true watch enthusiasts around. For many it’s just how much it’s worth on the grey market

  • @bluturt8985
    @bluturt8985 3 года назад +16

    I think the Alpine Eagle is incredibly underrated. The overall look is brilliantly put together. Liked it so much I bought one and it now gets the majority of wrist time. Looks like the Nautilus and royal oak? Certainly shares some similarities, but it really looks like an evolution of the St. Moritz. The nautilus and Royal Oak have just become very dated. This watch looks fresh. Can't understand why this watch isn't in higher demand - it will be...

    • @watchmanplain5780
      @watchmanplain5780 2 года назад +2

      I ordered one as well as soon as i got it i will upload first video here so excited :D its such a nice watch!

    • @georgeii2629
      @georgeii2629 2 года назад

      Let's be glad that the watch isn't in such high demand. If only we humans didn't think so stupidly.

  • @inscrutablechicken
    @inscrutablechicken 3 года назад +11

    At these prices, the only reason to get the patek is if you want to show the world you can afford to spend 6-digits on a watch.

    • @Armoer
      @Armoer 3 года назад

      Actually, historically that is correct. A steel sports watch that is more expensive than a complicated gold watch. That was exactly what GG originally designed and the brands planned to bring to market.
      For me? If you want to show you have money enough. Please buy something interesting. Impress me not with money, but with taste and consideration

  • @wisfanatic
    @wisfanatic 3 года назад +2

    Pin sleeves on a Patek. A fool and his money is easily parted. What a joke.

  • @randyallen2771
    @randyallen2771 3 года назад +4

    Nice job on the comparison Tim! As for the question of which to buy......is there really any need to ask?

  • @HansGruber006
    @HansGruber006 3 года назад +62

    The Chopard needs the LUC movement, it would be a better comparison

    • @rousseau327
      @rousseau327 3 года назад +5

      Eh, I agree it'd be much nicer to have that better movement, but the metal finishing + that dial is enough for me to take a serious look at this over another sports watch in the same price range

    • @CYC_JP
      @CYC_JP 3 года назад

      @cittadino di Zamunda Wrong. Although Caliber 240 or 324 are the inferior finished movements among all Patek movements, but they still used to have Geneva Hallmark before Patek went with their own PP Hallmark. This Chopard 01.01-C does not even meet the criteria to have the Geneva Hallmark stamped on it. Even some LUC movements don't meet the Geneva Hallmark criteria. "marvelous finishing" simply not.

    • @CYC_JP
      @CYC_JP 3 года назад +7

      ​@cittadino di Zamunda Clearly you are just new into horology, learnt something and though you knew everything. You got so many of your facts wrong and you just assumed you are correct, and I don't even know where to start.
      First of all, I'm lucky enough to own some of these independent brands such as FPJ, Lang & Hayne (not Lange & Hayne), Dufour, Forsay, Parmigiani, Akrivia, Pascal Coyon. I also own some mass produced brands such as Patek, Vacheron, Lange and Breguet. I use my 20x loupe to admire the details on those movements almost every single day.
      Patek and Vacheron are THE best when it comes to finishing out of all the mass produced brands (all brands producing more than 500 pieces a year, so FPJ, Parmigiani, Lange are all included).
      Most of those brands you mentioned don't have Geneva Hallmark because they are not located in Geneva, for example, Dufour and Gauthier are in Vallée de Joux, De Bethune is in Vaud, Forsay is in La Chaux de Fonds, Voulaitinen is located in Môtiers. Just in case you did not know it, Geneva Hallmark is only issued to brands that are located in Geneva.
      FPJ on the other hand, does not meet the criteria of obtaining Geneva Hallmark when it comes to decorative finishing. For example, one of the criteria of Geneva Hallmark is that the tooth of all gear wheels made from stainless-steel must be chamfered and polished, that include the tooth on the barrel gears. Take a close look at your FPJ, the barrels are grained but the tooth are not beveled and polished (to be fair, the current production entry level Patek these days don't even do that, as they moved away from Poincon de Geneve, so they are under no pressure to do those difficult finishings).
      You said Patek "324 movement are crappish as design itself", and then you also said "In short, if you want a proper Patek you need at least a perpetual calendar", you knew you just discredited yourself because of that. Patek doesn't make integrated perpetual calendar movements, all of Patek's perpetual calendar are modules. 324 S Q perpetual calendar is just a standard 324 movement with a perpetual calendar module slapped on it; the same goes to 240 Q perpetual calendar and 240; and the same goes to 31-260 PS QL perpetual calendar and 31-260 REG QA. If you say 324 movement is crap, then 324 S Q perpetual calendar must also be crap, so you contradicted yourself there.
      Back to Chopard. Chopard has two manufacture based in Fleurier. One is Chopard Manufacture, which is responsible of movement production for all LUC movements. Non Poincon de Geneve certified LUC will be assembled there as well. However, Poincon de Geneve Certifed LUC will have to be shipped to Geneva workshop for some extra finishing to meet both the location and finishing standard requirement. Then you have the Fleurier Ebauches which is responsible for non-LUC movements production (aka the inferior Chopard movements), the production are more industrial and less hand-finishes are applied, the movement 01.01-C used in this Alpine Eagle comes from there. In short, LUC Poincon de Geneve > LUC non-Poincon de Geneve > Chopard.
      Patek, even after they became lazy in their finishing department of their entry level pieces, are still better than LUC non-Poincon de Geneve and is certainly better than a non-LUC Chopard.
      By just looking at some macro shots of the anglage on 01.01-C, immediately you can notice the anglage are not even rounded, they are simply beveled to a 45 degrees angle, and the gear spokes are not beveled and polished. The overall finishing on this 01.01-C movement is not bad, quite good to look at a glance to be honest, but not "marvelous finishing", and it isn't better than a Patek 324.

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 2 года назад

      @@CYC_JP so is this watch good or not? How does this compare to the Royal Oak?

    • @dragosb.5059
      @dragosb.5059 2 года назад

      @@CYC_JP What’s your opinion on VC Overseas, 4500v?

  • @bennychen7433
    @bennychen7433 3 года назад +4

    In practise with my limited budget, it will be Chopard

  • @fikaimu
    @fikaimu 5 месяцев назад +1

    36mm non-date Alpine Eagle is the best

  • @LlyleHunter
    @LlyleHunter 3 года назад +7

    Now,.. I’d like to see an Aquanaut vs a Polo face off. They’re so closely stylistically matched and both from great pedigrees that I think it would be fascinating. I’m secretly rooting for the Polo.

    • @jumboJetPilot
      @jumboJetPilot 3 года назад +2

      I liked the Polo S ever since it came out - far more so in person than in pictures or videos. The asymmetry of the bezel, polished bezel edge, and crystal, to me, make it much more art-deco themed than nautically themed like the Nautilus. I would like to see Piaget use a screw-down crown. But other than that, I think the Polo S is a highly underrated watch.

    • @LlyleHunter
      @LlyleHunter 3 года назад +2

      @@jumboJetPilot I agree. I think it’s a great watch.

  • @Norman-mn7gp
    @Norman-mn7gp 3 года назад +2

    The price of the Nautilus is ridiculous, point by point the Chopard is better; I like it a lot more and I don't care if a seller loses money; the bubble will only harm a few ...

  • @gyrovague
    @gyrovague 3 года назад +10

    I had a craze for the Nautilus for about a month but it's not that great a work of art and would actually be boring to look at. The Chopard is smart yet dynamic. Quite cyberpunk or the sort of thing the tragic elite heads in Gibson's novels might wear. Perhaps someone could do a four figure watch that acts like a Reverso but with a smart watch on the other side.

  • @matlindell5022
    @matlindell5022 3 года назад +2

    No offense but the Chopard is hideous 🤮

  • @johnjohn3274
    @johnjohn3274 3 года назад +2

    I cant believe you get push pins for 34k from dealer, even worse that you get push pins for 110k used 😂

  • @AndreyZakharenko
    @AndreyZakharenko Год назад +2

    Chopard all the way, the dial is great!

  • @loweewolwed9834
    @loweewolwed9834 2 года назад +1

    Back in the fall of 2001 I had the opportunity to buy a used PPN 3700 with box & papers for 7000€ plus my 16600 in a WEMPE store in Hamburg but having just started my 3 year WOSTEP watchmaking education and with a girlfriend and 7 month baby back home it just didn´t make sense at the time. Note to younger me; "F*cking buy it already"
    As late as 2012 getting a 20% discount on any AP-RO was pretty much standard and once in Barcelona I had 6 of them in different sizes and dial colors lying on the desk front of me at an AD. Another note to younger me; "If you leave without at least one of these watches your an even bigger idiot now then back in 2001"

  • @mwojciak
    @mwojciak 3 года назад +14

    If not the name on the dial and the movement I would go Chopard without any doubt. Much, much better looking watch. It is absolutely stunning in person. However movement dissapoints a little. Chopard is capable of making movements at Patek level, and they should do it in Alpine Eagle too, even for higher price tag.

    • @wjs1
      @wjs1 3 года назад

      Totally agree!

  • @FFL3001
    @FFL3001 10 месяцев назад +1

    To me the Chopard gained an extra dimension when I was shown that it matched up with Chopards "Ice Cube" jewellery collection. Not only is there then an opportunity to match your wifes jewellery with your watch or her jewellery with her own Alpine Eagle, but you also get a new perspective on that design.

  • @just-inedc2381
    @just-inedc2381 3 года назад +3

    Price no issue I like the patek

  • @kahuhipajae4088
    @kahuhipajae4088 3 года назад +5

    The Alpine is a Very nice alternative to the Nautilus. Great job as always Tim.

    • @altorre5739
      @altorre5739 Год назад +2

      Absolutely, the Girard Perregaux Laureato too.

  • @asura2545
    @asura2545 3 года назад +4

    Alpine Eagle vs GP Laureato vs Bulgari Octo Finissimo?

    • @feedthefatrabbit1073
      @feedthefatrabbit1073 3 года назад +2

      I'd take the Eagle or the Octo. The GP is a baby step down IMO

    • @TheDrewski88
      @TheDrewski88 3 года назад

      @@feedthefatrabbit1073 I’m curious as to why you think that regards the GP?

    • @asura2545
      @asura2545 3 года назад

      @@feedthefatrabbit1073 The heritage of GP can be a factor too though

    • @feedthefatrabbit1073
      @feedthefatrabbit1073 3 года назад +1

      @@TheDrewski88 just personal preference from a design standpoint. The GP is the best of the three in terms of heritage, and the movement is outstanding on them. I think all too often we lose why we buy crazy watches in the fist place - for the look, because we like them. Why is Rolex king, for instance? Because ppl are wrapped up in what other ppl think about their watch and public perception in general, when in actuality - nobody *really* cares. That's why the old saying 'buy what u like' is underutilized in today's market. JLC is my favorite brand for this exact reason. They check all my boxes while flying ever so slightly under the radar.

  • @TheSuperGenius
    @TheSuperGenius 3 года назад +2

    The LAUREATO looks better than both of these....

  • @tarasmathers7423
    @tarasmathers7423 2 года назад +1

    Bravo Tim Mosso👏......and I could not agree w/ you more. Either way, I would take the Chopard, handsdown. Honestly, I find the Nautilus to be a bit to svelte on the wrist, but that's just me

  • @mastermindmanagement6190
    @mastermindmanagement6190 3 года назад +7

    This makes me happy to my watch (Alpine Eagle) featured! I love waking up and voila, there she blows!! And to see it vs. a 5711 awesomeness. It’s happened this way 2x now. First the individual watch review a couple weeks ago, now the comparison; thanks, Tim! I also own one of the 20 piece Laureato (black dial, blue indices & seconds hand). As much as I like the bombastic approach of getting the “heavy-hitters”, high-key, I throughly enjoy having a great under the radar piece, more…if you know, you know, type of vibe.

  • @78asasou
    @78asasou 3 года назад +1

    If you spend more then $8.00 at
    Walmart, then you buying it for an other
    reason other then telling time!

  • @うましか-q6u
    @うましか-q6u 2 года назад +1

    何言ってるかわからんけど、ノーチラスと比べられるアルパインイーグルすげーわ

  • @prunesquallormd
    @prunesquallormd 2 года назад +2

    You do the best watch reviews on RUclips. Knowledgeable, no nonsense and drily hilarious. Always a joy. Thanks for what you do.

  • @perudolux
    @perudolux 3 года назад +2

    I d like to see a comparison between the chopard and a laureato 👍

  • @defenstrator4660
    @defenstrator4660 3 года назад +1

    I honestly do not understand these prices for some watch brands. The prices for the Patel makes me want to barf as a value investor. It is entirely driven by people playing status games.

  • @sanghoonlee5171
    @sanghoonlee5171 2 года назад +1

    Both are handsome watches. But Nautilus doesn't make me stare at it. Alpine does.

  • @thewatchguyinc.7429
    @thewatchguyinc.7429 3 года назад +3

    This is a brilliant review Tim…full of added value and good input. Thank you

  • @vipinsuriya007
    @vipinsuriya007 2 года назад +1

    If I didn’t know anything about these watches I would chose the chopard 💯.

  • @cy4624
    @cy4624 3 года назад +1

    Many people complain about the value and street sale price of this watch but it is selling on the same principle why RM sells. Its instantly recognizable and everyone knows it goes for an absurd price . But, that is what the the majority of the new generation of Patek owners are looking for, ability to flaunt the price aspect. It wouldn't sell nearly as well if it was priced to be commensurate with the material, finishing, or technology. Yes, its a legendary design but if we are being honest, there is nothing special about the finishing or technology used in this watch in comparison to others in the same retail ballpark or even fractions. It sells because celebrities wear it, rap about it, and priced absurdly and Patek has according sold out to cater to these targeted clients.

  • @EdwardViaTomato
    @EdwardViaTomato Год назад +1

    I really like the Alpine Eagle on a rubber strap

  • @VTheGuerrilla
    @VTheGuerrilla 3 года назад +4

    As an Patek 5990 owner. I pick the Alpine Eagle.

  • @styx4947
    @styx4947 3 года назад +1

    That dial on the Alpine Eagle is virtuoso performance by Chopard. they could justify making the watch just as a vessel to display that dial. And yeah, Genta created the first "homage" Watch. He gets a pass because it's a homage to himself. LOL good show

  • @garyboyle695
    @garyboyle695 3 года назад +4

    Why would you pay way over retail for a watch? To impress others that won't even notice. Just bizarre.

    • @wjs1
      @wjs1 3 года назад

      Well, it isn’t being made anymore so there is that. It’s now down simply to hype, supply and demand to dictate the price. No way would I pay even $30k for a 5711. It’s dated to the point of being ugly and doesn’t even include a great dial or movement to help its cause.

  • @Sozialkompetenz
    @Sozialkompetenz Месяц назад

    It’s sort of without purpose to compare the Chopard to a watch that is not in the same league. Also the Patek is not available for purchase.

  • @leoberg2390
    @leoberg2390 3 года назад +2

    I think chopard has enough of it's own design features to not be called a homage, and the dial is just mind blowing and looks just as good as patek but lean more towards sporty rather than the dressy nautilus. I just wish the eagle was a little more thinner if not as thinner as nautilus

    • @almac9203
      @almac9203 2 года назад

      @AM Conquer is a homage created by the same designer still a homage? He kinda gets a pass because Genta designed both watches.

  • @markr3926
    @markr3926 Год назад +1

    Chopard.

  • @jumboJetPilot
    @jumboJetPilot 3 года назад +9

    I really like that Alpine Eagle’s dial. I’d like to see equivalent versions in green and red. And if they wanted to make a sportier version, do the bezel in ceramic, both brushed and polished just like the metal bezel version, in a ceramic color that matches the dial color, Omega Constellation-style.

    • @MrCliteatswood
      @MrCliteatswood 3 года назад +4

      They made a red dial version and it looks like an asshole

    • @rousseau327
      @rousseau327 3 года назад

      @@MrCliteatswood What kind of bleeding assholes are you used to seeing?

    • @jumboJetPilot
      @jumboJetPilot 3 года назад

      @@MrCliteatswood ummm, no. That’s the brown dial version.

  • @saidbb
    @saidbb 3 года назад +2

    i like the chopard

  • @direction_west
    @direction_west 3 года назад +1

    Truly a worthy competitor to the Patek Nautilus, more so I'm very proud and privileged to have several of these stunning timepieces instore (BHH Cape Town) Also this is a fantastic video, keep it up.. Just clicked subscribed and liked.

  • @LlyleHunter
    @LlyleHunter 3 года назад +1

    I’d like to see a comparison between an Alpine Eagle and a Royal Oak. That would be fascinating.

  • @watchmanplain5780
    @watchmanplain5780 2 года назад +3

    I purchased mine :) in rose gold

    • @SunsetSheen
      @SunsetSheen 2 года назад

      How have you liked it so far?

    • @watchmanplain5780
      @watchmanplain5780 2 года назад +1

      @@SunsetSheen its a great watch ! But mine is 36 mm its very flat and still a heavy watch since its made of 18k gold. Its not a everydays watch. But i am very happy with it very high quality piece and the warm bright look in the sun is just amazing! I am going to purchase a steel modell as well but waiting for another dial colour to be released 🙈☺️or tune it with some after market sapphires on the bezel?🙄🙄🤷‍♂️

    • @SunsetSheen
      @SunsetSheen 2 года назад

      @@watchmanplain5780 great choice on the 36. I actually like the smaller one much better, both for the size and also the cleaner dial without the date window.
      Strongly considering the 2 tone but my only apprehension is that the bracelet barely tapers. Do you know the width at the lug, and also what it tapers down to at the clasp?

    • @watchmanplain5780
      @watchmanplain5780 2 года назад

      @@SunsetSheen sadly i dont know the exact sice of the lug to lug. For the tone tone model i can tell u that i personally didnt liked the silver screws on the bezel, made the whole watch unbalanced, but i recommend u to try it on before u buy it. But design wise i would say its a great unisex piece it has a strong male and female site. I am just 30 and wear it with street wear. So i dont think it will make you look too old, so dont worry;) but for sure its an elegant watch.

  • @dannysimenauer5745
    @dannysimenauer5745 3 года назад +12

    Great in-depth comparison. The fact is 99% of us will never have a chance to buy the Nautilus probably speaks for itself. I love the Alpine Eagle's dial, and would like to see Chopard add several more colors.

  • @onceuponascale
    @onceuponascale 5 месяцев назад

    The dial is fabulous indeed. You need to see it for yourself. The camera does not render true to life.

  • @constantinmiron6980
    @constantinmiron6980 Год назад +1

    Chopard for sure!

  • @darrenanderson2014
    @darrenanderson2014 3 года назад +4

    Alpine Eagle hands down a better looking watch.

  • @Innovativeindustries
    @Innovativeindustries 3 года назад +2

    $120k or $10k 5711 all the way for me. The non timed screws on the bezel of the Chopard would drive me crazy.

    • @nishantprakash5928
      @nishantprakash5928 2 года назад

      They are screws not bolts.
      It's impossible to line up screws.
      RO has bolts, Chopard has screws.
      Although, I agree with you, misaligned screws drive me crazy as well, but we can't do anything about it.

    • @Innovativeindustries
      @Innovativeindustries 2 года назад

      @@nishantprakash5928 they can. It’s not cost effective or feasible though.

    • @nishantprakash5928
      @nishantprakash5928 2 года назад

      @@Innovativeindustries to do that, they are gonna need another batch of screws under side the case, now these screws won't line up.
      And the bolts on the bezel will line up.
      If they do that, they will be called out for copying RO.
      So no brands usually go in that direction of aligning screws

  • @andrewgiblin3468
    @andrewgiblin3468 3 года назад +1

    Great review but I prefer the GP Laureato over both of them and I also have a 5711.

  • @Pulsonar
    @Pulsonar 2 года назад

    Can you actually wear and enjoy a $100K+ watch like the PP without fear of being mugged by armed criminals? If you’re a wealthy speculator perhaps you don’t wear it and only cash in later. But even a wealthy enthusiast must be weary and carefully where to wear such expensive things. Even casual Criminals are not as ignorant, they know the worth of even the rare Swiss brands. Google is their friend too 😳

  • @extremejoy
    @extremejoy 11 месяцев назад

    If Grandson of LUC had a child; it would still be a family/independently owned… Chopard took the time to focus a lot on details down to the screws so I’ll have to give it to Alpine Eagle. But if I’m acquiring to flip then Nautilus all the way!

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn Год назад

    The Nautilus design makes my stomach churn. It looks like a 70's TV set which is dorky. Another thing - the corner facets on the crystal annoy me as it's not quite round but not very jagged either. It's so subtle that it looks like an imperfection.

  • @reelrocknrolla4251
    @reelrocknrolla4251 2 года назад +1

    I wished they kept the Saint Moritz name...

  • @andygregory2145
    @andygregory2145 3 года назад +3

    5:19 skip the overhype nautilus to the review of the alpine eagle with this

  • @xtr1092
    @xtr1092 25 дней назад

    alpine eagle looks nicer to me whatever the price

  • @stevesmith7997
    @stevesmith7997 3 года назад +1

    No Brainer Chopard !

  • @MrYutbe57
    @MrYutbe57 Год назад

    I don't know that anyone would say the differences or improvements are worth even the retail difference let alone gray market. The Chopart is more sporty with the case dimensions as well as more elegant with design and overall more interesting in general. It has a lot more going on with indices and screws and dial but not so much that it takes away from it at all or that it just screams for attention.

  • @zogzog1063
    @zogzog1063 3 года назад

    Oh dear. A 1950s television vs a steampunk clone. Both inaccurate - and they are supposed to be timepieces, right? Casio does better watches, Grand Seiko does better movements. These watches are for those who want cachet above quality. I would be embarrassed to be seen wearing one.

  • @kevinh5349
    @kevinh5349 10 месяцев назад

    I really like the PP Nautilus. Heck, I might even go as high as $5k for one.

  • @gabrielpyh5608
    @gabrielpyh5608 Год назад

    CEA is just gorgeous vs the Patek! Unless given an opportunity to buy from Retail then Patek is a must buy for future investment.

  • @newtonlee7849
    @newtonlee7849 2 года назад

    $100+k for a used PP Nautilus? Classic FOMO for what?

  • @industryousphotography2058
    @industryousphotography2058 Год назад +1

    Chopard all the way

  • @hatchegg80
    @hatchegg80 Год назад

    i know the trend/bragging rights is for thinner watches but it has to suit your wrist, i feel like for me, the nautilus sits a little too low

  • @winstonthecuttlefish5352
    @winstonthecuttlefish5352 3 года назад

    The Patek is so ugly I don't understand why it's so desired, I wouldn't even buy it at retail even if it was offered to me.

  • @virada630
    @virada630 2 года назад

    Tell me where are those money coming from this Patek? Like how $400,000?

  • @EtherealSky
    @EtherealSky 3 года назад +3

    Chopard did a great job overall, but it's just that the date window at 4 o'clock was quite out of place for a simple dial.

  • @docpau698
    @docpau698 3 года назад +1

    Chopard

  • @Watch-Crazy
    @Watch-Crazy 3 года назад +7

    Prices are insane, but design-wise Patek all the way.

    • @blessedlion5329
      @blessedlion5329 3 года назад +1

      You echo my sentiments to the T squire, id most certainly opt for the patek over the 'Sho-par'

    • @Watch-Crazy
      @Watch-Crazy 3 года назад +1

      @@blessedlion5329 It unfortunately resembles something that you would see on AliExpress, where someone thought it would be a great idea to combine all of the most popular luxury brands into one watch. Et voila the royal nautilus, ingenieur overseas on oyster, Speedmaster bracelet.
      Having said all of that other than the markers I do actually like the dial.

    • @Watch-Crazy
      @Watch-Crazy 2 года назад

      @2423 6585 I agree but it's the other way around.

  • @uropy
    @uropy 3 года назад

    Yeah at current price of two I can’t see how one would choose 5711, unless you are a Patek diehard fan. Look very similar. Both brands are legit makers but both lack brand recognition among general public. If you want to impress, none of these two models is good. If you just wear for what it is, the Chopard one is as good as 5711, with a much lower price.

  • @petereriksson6287
    @petereriksson6287 2 года назад

    By the looks I would go for the Chopard, will try it on next time at the AD. Hav'nt payed this watch any attantion until now.

  • @peterrichardson9248
    @peterrichardson9248 3 года назад

    Is the Patek the Emperors new clothes in this company. Lovely watch but the movement could be considered almost prehistoric and badly in need of an update.

  • @Khanh.Nguyen369
    @Khanh.Nguyen369 3 года назад

    The chopped should be named the Kermit rather than the Rolex. Can’t get past those bolts.

  • @benniboi75
    @benniboi75 2 года назад

    Chopard at the end of the day is just as attractive with great specs- if I could afford I’ll take both😅great review as always Tim!

  • @Barnaby_bo
    @Barnaby_bo 2 года назад

    Looking at the bracelets I think the Chopard is a league above the Patek

  • @onceuponascale
    @onceuponascale 5 месяцев назад

    Check out the chrono version. It is stunning.

  • @leonari
    @leonari 3 года назад +2

    I would never buy a Chopard. Ever.

  • @flo3000
    @flo3000 3 года назад +2

    I love how theses reviews make you think that any other other watch doesn’t show you the time. Compare it to a used Mercedes S-class that almost drives by it self while massaging you with probably 10000 times the parts costing used less than half of this watch that shows date and time! :-)

  • @rousseau327
    @rousseau327 3 года назад

    While I agree the Chopard is noticeably larger than the Nautilus, I don't think it wears larger than it suggests. In my opinion, it wears true to size, and perhaps even slightly smaller. The Nautilus just wears really, really well.

  • @ikemouser2580
    @ikemouser2580 7 месяцев назад

    how many grams is the chopard?