Is the 2025 Dodge Charger SIX PACK an UPGRADE over a Charger Scatpack 392🤔…
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2024
- Is the 2025 Dodge Charger SIX PACK an UPGRADE over a Charger Scatpack 392? Would you consider buying the 2025 Dodge Charger SIXPACK over a V8 Hemi Scatpack Charger. The 2025 Charger SIXPACK has more power then a Charger Scatpack 392 and its AWD as well, but its NOT A V8 HEMI... What's your choice? (MUST WATCH)...
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As an R/T owner I’m keeping it I love the soul of my v8 and sound
Nothing can ever replace that real sound. Not that fake sound this electric car will generate. I am glad I just bought a 2023 Scat Pack Swinger.
I'm pretty sure someone with enough money will buy a six pack and do a Hellcat swap on it.
respectfully speaking, it's only an equal upgrade in terms of the potential over an r/t or 392 stock given it already has a twin turbo & top performance only requires a tune but all in all, in comparison to an actual cat, it's a major 👎.and it will never sound like an rt or 392 on its best days,...being a car show fanatic, the sound of a v8 or higher is all that attracts attention aside from rare exotics or supercars like the gtr.... g series nissans can sound like ar15's tuned, and bimmers have the tt v6/v8 game downpack, so a six banger dodge will be at a lost to competition popularity...this isn't the early 00's during the days where turbo'd v6's like the dodge stealth were unique and only a dime or dozen..turbo v6's are everyhwere and car folks will still chose bimmers and nissans over a six cylinder dodge..the hemi is pretty much dodges trademark now, ...
The sound alone is the winning factor for me.
@@juliusten6225 - that's a Manual, right?
“We drive these cars for the v8 experience” couldn’t have said it any better. For me, chargers are the closest thing to a street legal nascar.
Must’ve never drove a mustang or BMW
🤢🤢@@fullbattlerattle2493
Same people loved the Buick GNX.
@@fullbattlerattle2493 I’ve driven a eco boost mustang so didn’t get the full mustang experience. As far as bmw, I’ve owned a few of them in my lifetime… great cars, fun to drive but has a lot of tech behind it. All the one I’ve driven felt more like rally cars to me. I feel like the v8 hemi is just straight forward, no tech.. just big loud engine that just meant for straight lines. It just gives me that nascar feel… but this is all just my opinion.
Can we talk about the elephant in the room? How much lighter is the six pack to the ev's? No battery pack...
This right here is what I've been thinking people have been missing. Some say it'll be slow,however, the jeep wagoneer that's 200lbs heavier than the 5800lb ev charger is capable of a mid 13 even tho it has 40 less hp with its High output hurricane vs the charger. That alone is a SUPER strong sign that these will be fast from factory,especially considering if the car weights atleast 4000-4200lbs,it'd still be super fast for what it is regardless.
4000 lbs? In your dreams. It's going to weigh as much or more than the current gen because it's AWD. And because dodge doesn't seem to understand how to shave weight. They only seem to add weight 💀
@@MrDionstarrr the past gen V6 Sxt chargers weighted around 4100-4200lbs while some of the V8 models weighted somewhat in between those weights. That's why I said it'd prob be around 4000-4200lbs or at best 4300lbs since the I6 is a bit heavier than the pentastar V6. That's still lighter than hellcats which weight more than the awd sxt and the 5.7 and 6.4 models so it wouldn't make much sense for it to bounce higher than that considering the I6 weights less than the V8s.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 ohk I see. Good point. I stand corrected.
@@MrDionstarrrA dodge engineer said it’s gonna be about 200lbs less than a current scat pack awd system included. I’ll try to find the source and post
imagine running from the cops & your battery dies 😂😂
Naw imagine running and your top speed is 135 😂😂😂
Wrong video
They turn off your car before the battery dies
😂😂😂😂 If I was the cop i would make them push it the charge station no less than a mile out of go to jail.
Might as well pull over and lay on the ground and wait to get apprehended bc yo ass going to jail!😂
Power dense is HP per liter.
Yeah bro retarded forgive him
550HP High output, everyone needs to go with that one!! 550 numbers with work can easily get you up to possibly mid 8s to very close to low 9oos in the HPs. You could spend less to get REDEYE numbers than the cost of a hellcat redeye engine! This car is for the tuners, not the people who want power right out of the box!
I honestly think most people don't actually care about being fast. I think what everything boils down to is the look and the sound. I have a RT and I'd consider this for the HP and just the endless possibilities for tuning purposes. I think this thing could be a monster but most people just want the sound of a V8. A lot of people rather be loud but slow
6pack of ass 😂
@@michaeltindall6707so they just like faking the funk?
@@michaeltindall6707agreed. Which is why I still planning on getting a R/T soon. I dont care how much faster the 2025 Charger is. Electric cars have no soul.
Down pipe tunes finna go crazy
Reminds me of what happened to the Chevy Impala. It went to a V6 and never recovered.
It going front wheel drive is what killed it. It had a supercharged v6 and a v8 only no one was gonna bite in fwd form.
It went to fwd, that's what happened.
The sixpack will definitely be their top seller. They would most likely put more effort into the hurricane more than the evs once they see how the 6 sells
Go buy a BMW for the same price and it’s reliable Toyota uses the engine B58 inline 6 all wheel drive and it’s hundreds of pounds lighter more brand reputable more luxurious
@@redhunnid5142 closest competitor would be an M4 Comp xDrive. If Dodge gets the price right and it shaves enough weight off the Daytona I think they got a winner. I like the M4 mechanically but I think it’s ugly as sin unless you black it out
I couldn't have said it better. If I want a $100,000 car with a straight 6 I'd buy a bmw.
@@redhunnid5142 Why is it when I see a car broken down and red tagged on the side of the interstate that it is a Toyota 99% of the time? Is it because their owners believe those cars never need an oil change?
I like the 6 I’m just salty about no more hemi so it’s weird to talk about but I think it’ll be successful
I feel the same way
Yea well at least ther still is an engine 🤷🏽♂️. Better than wha we thought it would before 💯
Go buy a BMW for the same price and it’s reliable Toyota uses the engine B58 inline 6 all wheel drive and it’s hundreds of pounds lighter more brand reputable more luxurious and it’s tunable
@@redhunnid5142bmw is far from being reliable
I'm betting the 135mph isn't the full speed,meaning the boost button would push u close to ICE scat pack,but only for 15sec which is alot of time actually,the question is how long before u can push it again🤔?
AWD is a game changer for us Northern U.S. residents. I will trade the V8 for AWD.
You could have already done that
@@spectre3492 But those were the lame V6 not the Hurricane I6
🧑🏾💻I have a v8 awd charger, ex police car. $9500 120,000 miles
Dodge released the new crate engine HURRICANE CAT X 1000+ HP. The Sixpack will be similar in curb weight to the Maserati Grandturismo which is 4072 Lb. Let's go.
I hear the inline 6 engine is a tuners dream.
Go buy a BMW for the same price and it’s reliable Toyota uses the engine B58 inline 6 all wheel drive and it’s hundreds of pounds lighter more brand reputable more luxurious and it’s tunable
@@redhunnid5142 👍
@@redhunnid5142 You should go copy paste this same thing on every comment in the the thread.
@@redhunnid5142BMW and reliability don’t even live in the same world. This is why once BMW are bought you can get a used one for dirt cheap. The inline 6 is good but everything else outside of the BMW engine is not reliable. Unless you want to throw your money to fix it every single month and constantly give BMW your money then go that way. Love BMWs but if it’s not a high end model it’s a money pit.
@@redhunnid5142 stop being a goof 🤡 putting this pointless comment everywhere 😑
Hell, my Challenger RT is already heavily modified! Even if it was still stock I wouldn't trade for the Sixpack!
Dodge guys should be happy. They gave yall a new car, interior, 4 wheel drive and u can tune with turbos + im sure they will make more powerful variations. Just a min ago u had nothing for the future
you dont get it.
Wait, is he serious. 550hp TTI6 AWD lighter chassis. Is absolutely a upgrade to the 392
It won't be lighter than a 392 because of awd and the new car is longer and wider also.
@@hpickettz34 And it will smoke a scat stock for stock
Every in-line 6 i know aren’t slow, especially with modifications 🤐
Did some calculations on the new Charger. The EV will make 670hp at 5800 lbs. Power to weight is .115 The inline 6 will make 550hp at about 4000 lbs ( I'm guessiing ). Power to weight would be .137. Both are AWD so the ICE car should be quicker. Of course they are pumping up the EV but the gas car is the smart money.
If you're talking about smart money the EV wins everytime.
Nope, that instant torque will GAP every ICE car every time. Think EV Hummwe 0.60 3.5 sec!
@@seanchernobyl2911not in a roll race.
@cblue3581 that's not true at all. It heavier. Takes longer to charge and it's not tunable. It's already at its full potential....meanwhile the hurricane.... it'll be able to make more hp, upgrade the turbos and u talking a fast car. Would Rader have a v8 tho
This is laughable. The EV is not capped out. A simple software update in 5 minutes would beat anything you could do to the inline 6@@edgarcamacho6408
I got a 2021 R/T Daytona I wouldn’t trade for none of those 3 electric cars period 🚫⚡️
Agree with you.
I'm sure people felt the same way back in the day when the Grand National and GNX came out and those cars have a huge following..
The sheer size of this thing is why im buying one, especially with the straight 6
If Ford can make the 2024 eco boost Mustang with an inline 4 sound as close as it does to the v8 mustang and build it to do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, imagine what dodge can do with this six pack. Plus it’s all wheel drive, and that’s the major selling point for me right there. As long as 200 mph is on the dash for this six pack, I’ll consider it.😄
the mk4 2JZ an old aaah L6 that makes unreal power and that came turboed with 275hp factory. Imagine what a downpipe and a tune would do for this car!
Twin turbos is definitely an upgrade from a 392, definitely diff from what we know is v8 buy twin turbo is the future. Simple bolt ons and tune will be way more power than trying to keep a scat and put money into it
Facts bro! I’ve heard those engines can push up to 1000hp.
I think it’ll be a great car. Time to leave the V8 behind. I know it’s an American staple and all but an inline 6 is always a good play, look at Porsche
I mean the old muscle cars back in the day had a in-line straight 6 so I’m not complaining about it; it just weird and ain’t the same to get rid of the Hemi.
Go buy a BMW for the same price and it’s reliable Toyota uses the engine B58 inline 6 all wheel drive and it’s hundreds of pounds lighter more brand reputable more luxurious
@@redhunnid5142 i had a 22 b58 bmw m240i with xdrive, it was so easy go fast in these cars, it would do 12.1 in the 1/4 all day every day rated 382hp, but it's a bmw and they under rate their cars, it more likely 440hp to the crank.
no muscle car had a 6.
@@madkabalhmm then what's the classification for a grand national or gnx?
@@samgome01 an American sports coupe
I do like how they integrated the wide fenders into the body instead of the current stick-on fender flares. Looks a lot cleaner
Dodge is late to the game in terms of the inline 6! But mark my words! This hurricane is going to destroy everything! The ford Barra is still a monster 20 years later! 2jz is a beast! And let’s not forget Nissans RB26! Sure we all will miss the sound of a V8! But that’s all
Yep, might thoughts exactly
We’ll see what the tuners think of it how much they can push them and what modification is going to be needed and God say hopefully someone does something about all the plastic. It is on top of the engine and also install a dipstick to check the oil.
Yo knockout love the vids your honest opinion planning on getting into a scat next month would you recommend waiting because u said you got some info on scats n cats going down in price let me know have a great day keep up the grind
He ment more HP per litre of any Dodge built.
I read about the high output version and it was more than a tune that increased the HP.
Diablo sport already planning on making tunes for it...6 pack
I kinda like the hood on the 6 pack better than the electric at least. It doesn't have that swooping front spoiler on it.
Most power dense means the most power per liter. The HO is 183hp per liter where as the demon 170 is 165hp per liter. And the standard sixpack model is 140hp per liter and the original Demon is 135hp per liter.
I drive a 2016 Honda Accord, is the Six Pack an upgrade?
I love the hemis too but I had the chance to drive an M4, that changed my mind on TT straight 6’s real quick
In a couple years when the tuning companies get their aftermarket tunes dialed in these will be insane on the street! Inline 6 twin turbos are a beast and there are inline 6 cars available now that can kill scatpacks with no problem. The electric one probably will get passed on by most gearheads tho
I love my R/T manual.. but she’s already a big girl the new electrified ‘R/T’ will be almost 6,000lbs! I’ll keep my 3 pedal hemi until she dies
So will there be a manual available in the 550 HP version or are they stuck with a sissy stick in all of them ?
Gonna be eating words when with just a tune, that Hurricane gains 100+ whp and even more with downpipe + supporting mods. The AWD itself already puts it ahead of whatever Dodge has out now.
Man I’m just ready to see a demon 170 swap in one of these 😅
Yo @knockout360 do you think because of the new look do you think guys will buy it and hellcat swap it because I think so.
This is how you do it .. kept ur gas and add the electric so you’ll have them both …that’s my game plan!!
Man you are HILARIOUS 😂😂😅😂😂! Keep up the good work!
That 6 pack will weigh 200 lb less and the two door smaller frame than the now charger I bet 3800 without you in it with you 4 k it’s gona be a beast Especially with a tune and some exhaust work
Calling those cars Scatpack is an insult to Mopar fans .
Why?, i wouldn't be surprised it's faster than a scat, because a scat really isn't that fast to begin with.
It will be neck and neck with the redeye at the 1/4 mile. @@hpickettz34
@@hpickettz34it’s definitely gonna be faster, people don’t like change but it will grow on them when they see it in action
@@hpickettz34 it’s a ev not muscle car . Call it whatever but not muscle car names.
knockout 360 Friend keep up the great work 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😃😃💪💪💪👍👍👍👍
I'd like to see the weight of the IC cars. I imagine the six is lighter and I know the electric cars are heavy but the IC version won't have a 1000 lbs of batteries shoved in the floorboards either.
bra what camera you use for your vids?
I'm excited 😊 i can't wait to see what people do with the Sixpack.
Reviews of the I6 in the trucks is pretty damn good. S/O moves the 6000 LB Wagoner to 60 in 5.4 seconds. In a 4000ish LB car it’ll be fast as hell
I currently own a 2015 Dodge Charger v6 AWD with the Rallye package. This 2025 with v6tt and AWD is definite upgrade to me. Just depends on the price.
What’s the top speed of the inline 6?
The EVs are 137. But is the top speed the same over on the gas model?
2 door and 4 door are on the same wheel base. there is no 'stretchin' out'. Just a shorter front door and a rear door where that big ass chunk of forward quarter panel would be. There is no change except B pillar placement and a small filler piece where the coupe's quarter glass would normally end
A solid aftermarket exhaust fixes the sound situation......
What happened to the direct connection tunes that was supposed to be available for these cars?
When the 6-pack drops there will be some hurt feelings especially when they start modding them and people start hearing blow off turbo flutters it's over if they choose to release a higher trim I6
IDK, I'll have to test drive one first to get the fill for it.
I have a 2010 rt challenger and I'm not even thinking about trading it in for the new lineup whether it be an ev or inline 6. No way! And for some reason everyone's always slept on the viper which I'm gonna go for a 3rd or 4th gen in the near future!
Currently own a Dodge Charger RT Daytona and hopefully upgrading it to a Daytona 392 or Widebody Scatpack soon!!
Sound is the only reason why you would keep an RT over a 550 hp six pack if you want to be fast you get the one with more horsepower and I would think it be easier to tune a twin turbo in-line 6 to 1000 hp easier than it would be able to get a 57 anywhere near That amount of horsepower
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I’m fairly certain that he’s referring to the horsepower output per liter of displacement. The HO Hurricane will produce around 183 hp/L, while even the Demon 170 only produced around 165 hp/L.
I think it might be cool to add the high output hurricanes and matched it a ev as a hybrid.
Make it like a 1000 hp
To me why would I get the high output if I could just tune the low output out to make high output power if the engines are identical
Even with more hp, a turbo-i6 saddled with awd will be somewhat of a sad trumpet, coming out of the gate. Can't break the tires lose, engine bogs, and it is a slow digout under partial boost while waiting for more rpm to arrive where you can really generate exhaust flow to charge the turbos
You red my mind again! I would never trade in my hellcat for any of these cars. Once you’ve had that experience, you can’t go back.
Monster energy drink, and some beef jerky😂😂😂 great video and channel
I’m happy with my 05 magnum Rt
My concern is how much boost are they currently running to hit 550hp from the factory. I know there’s a lot of talk about tuning them but it seems like they’re already on the edge. Similar to the SRT neon turbo 4. It COULD make more power but required a lot of building to stay relatively reliable. If this 3.0 engine is already making 183hp per litre from the factory I suspect there isn’t much room to make more power than that.
26 psi. Plus,this engine is similar to the S58 that has 50 less hp and people throw a ton of power at those cars turbos(despite that their rods cannot pass over 750-800whp because theyre from the S63 V8 that has weak rods,although, there are ways to keep them safe around that hp,but the hurricane has forged internals from factory so it prob is capable of handling 800whp at best)plus it being closed deck helps it most of all for it handling power. Unless the turbos themselves are at their limit, the rest of the engine is more than likely ready for mods seeing how it practically already has what it needs to handle the power.
I agree 100%. Not trading my Scatpack for a Sixpack. I do like the new Charger though. I actually like it a lot, but not enough to part ways with my 6.4.
Knockout I think that 6 twin turbo will definitely have stage kits coming out with it
Gone have to do something bout that top speed..thats the only thing getting me man but im excited ab the inline 6's5l tbh. I feel they can go crazy.. potentially...who knows how they'll mess it up but we'll see
A LOT more differences between the SO and HO than a tune! HO gets forged internals to handle the near 30 lbs of boost. Also the sedan’s SO only and the coupe’s HO only. IMO these are made for the guys who want the tech in a classic design. Worth comparing to R35’s & M4 xDrive’s
This is coming from a euro guy who’s never owned a Dodge, but I’m hype as fuck for what’s essentially a big bodied maybe-half price GT-R. Everyone who wanted a V8 already got one. Though it would be cool to see them do a 4.0TT
I like the new six pack charger way more than the electric version but for me it isn’t about how fast they can go. I like having a manual transmission and something that is easy to work on. I would have the 5.7 or 6.4 hemi challenger and feel confident that I wouldn’t need to take it to the dealer for service (only took my 2013 challenger SRT8 to the dealer once in the 10 years I’ve owned it for a recall).
But with that being said, I can’t wait to see these new chargers out on the streets whether it’s the six pack or electric and what the future holds for them.
I have a 5.7 it’s my daily because I drive 60 miles a day going back and forth to work. Once move closer to work I’m getting a GT next or the last SS.
I like my 392 Hemi (6-spd, Scat Pack WB Challenger) too much to ever "trade up" for one of the new ones. However, with 65 more HP and AWD, the Six-Pack is gonna blow the doors off all stock Scat Packs--and don't forget turbo cars are usually easily (and cheaply) modifiable to get significantly more power, so they'll probably blow the doors off most modified Scat Packs as well...AND they'll probably get significantly better gas mileage in everyday driving too.
Whats the price of the twin turbo 6
Im don't mind the inline 6 and it didn't sound too bad either.
Go buy a BMW for the same price and it’s reliable Toyota uses the engine B58 inline 6 all wheel drive and it’s hundreds of pounds lighter more brand reputable more luxurious
@@redhunnid5142 👍
Are you literally going to copy and paste the same comment to respond to anyone who says anything positive about the car? @@redhunnid5142
@@redhunnid5142 bro sending everyone the same message relax bro it ain’t that serious 😂
I want to see you post the first time one of those six packs tuned blows your doors off on your hellcat
Power dense means power for the most power pushed thru the cubic inches
11:00 that what I wanna hear. Thank You Sir.
Not gonna lie, I’m feeling the twin turbo inline six 550hp, AWD too.
I’m a have to go check it out. Depending on price, features and the test drive, we’ll see.
So the new halo car is the electric ones.
What’s the 6 sound like?
I just want to know what rebadged engine this is they did it with the hornet
i have a challenger sxt i was considering getting a mustang GT but the six pack interest me as well lol i think ima just stick with the 5.0 cause it’s a V8 but soon as the prices drop for the scats im coping that
Talking about that THUNDERTANK"!
I really dig the hurricane and happy to see the six pack name come back to a mopar muscle car definitely want my hands on one but wouldn't be a replacement for my 392 with a 6 speed hope others start to look at the ice version with a more positive mindset especially gonna be crazy as far as tunability and power for the money when it comes to mods over the 392 wich we all know you gotta come with serious cash to make 50-100 hp over stock
Drove a 5.7 Challenger for 9 years, and then upgraded to a 6.4 for the last 5 years. I can't fathom ever doing the swap for any of these, but in fairness, I haven't seen one up close or driven any so....
I like the size, the hatchback, and the horsepower. It will be a step up from my 2020 Charge GT. Will go from 300hp to a lot more.
The only 392s that can compete with this are 1320s and Superbees. Regular Scats are getting cooked. AND no one is gonna try to steal your Sixpack like they will try to steal a Scat.
Cooked until we hit that highway them 6 packs getting left with that 135 cap limit
@@gainzwillbemade9890 Nothing confirmed the Sixpacks have that speed limiter on them, that was for the EVs. If my family car Honda Accord can go 160, these Hurricanes definitely will.
@overlord6815 I believe I mean I know Dodge is stupid enough to cap those low too
I previously owned two vehicles, but currently only have one. I possess a Dodge Durango R/T, which holds sentimental value as it was passed down to me by my late mother. I am strongly considering acquiring the inline six-pack due to my preference for the car version of the vehicle. I previously owned a 2017 Chevy Impala equipped with a 3.6L V6 engine, however, it lacked the power of the inline six engine found in the Dodge Charger. Consequently, I am contemplating the possibility of purchasing the car version of the Dodge Charger.
I’m excited for the sixpack. I have my v6 which I am going to keep since I have 8K leftover. I’ll get the 4 door charger
I live in Sydney, Australia.
Back in 71 Australia released an RT charger, based on an A body valiant. 265cu inline 6 with triple Weber Carburettors. These things use to smoke most V8 cars in their heyday.
I'm lucky enough to own one of those rare beasts, I absolutely love driving the old girl. I also own a 2015 Chrysler 300 - 6.4 SRT. That too I love to drive.
If the new Dodge Charger were to come to Australia, I wouldn't have a problem owning one. Nothing wrong with online 6's, especially twin turbo variants. Look at the Nissan skyline, they're awesome.
The fly in the ointment with the new Dodge is, how much does it weigh, because that will be a factor as to whether this car will get street cred in the future, there is potential there.
After having a V8 RT and Scat I don’t care for the inline 6. Dodge needs to just make a V8 engine that meets the requirements and regulations.
I think most "power dense" means most horsepower per liter. The 3.0 liter H.O. Hurricane engine will have 550 hp ÷ 3 = 183.333 hp per liter.
Compare that to a 6.2 liter SRT Demon 170 Challenger which I believe is the most powerful Dodge gasser car: 1,025 hp ÷ 6.2 liters = 165.322 horsepower per liter.
Therefore, one could say that the 3 liter H.O. Hurricane will be the most "power dense" Dodge car engine to date, because per liter, it is more powerful than the Demon 170.
I have the pentastar v6 2012 SE charger so the hurricane 6 pack would definitely be an upgrade for me 🤷🏾♂️
Two door or 4 door sounds good. I hope an option for Rear Wheel drive only exists…don’t need AWD and less weight
It's not. Its basically what bmw does to all their comp models with awd being switchable to rwd.
You bring up a point about people not having electrical chargers at their houses or apartments. A lot of people don’t take that into consideration when purchasing an electrical vehicle and the cost of actually having a charger installed in their house.
There will definitely be something above the high output also. They are starting with the “weak” stuff
In the Dodge video he claimed you can disengag the all wheel drive in the sixpack. Probably better gas mileage. Then when it snows engage the all wheel drive. I got a GT might be an upgrade for me. Plus interior is fire.
How much does it weigh?
If anything, this six pack has to be the trim with at least 180-200 mph on the dash, and not 137, right?? M I right!!??
Depends on the price.