What if joker was the good guy
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"joker takes some medication" more like "Batman crams an entire bottle of pills down his throat"
you gotta wonder how pissed batman is that somehow after all the crap that clown made him go through shoving MEDICATION down his throat is what fixed him
Riiiight 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@demo0831 the joker did nothing wrong because the joker doesnt exist and nor does any of the fictional characters and even if they did science has proven that your brain makes/prepares to make a decision 300 miliseconds before your brain becomes aware of it or in other words you only have the illusion of free will when in reality you dont control anything not even your own thoughts so yeah in conclusion the joker did nothing wrong
True 😂 bro doesn’t care if it hurts him he’s making sure he takes the pills
@@demo0831 Alfred was dying of disease
Joker didn't take the pills, someone gave them to batman and then he shoved the entire medication on him.
Even better that Batman lead to people realising that Batman helped the rich get richer
@@rathinasabapathy3796 honestly this story has a bad ending in my opinion because it says that the state should have control over everything.
@@rathinasabapathy3796 Batman just looking out for the rich is completely out of character. Bruce Wayne spends billions of dollars on charity trying to clean up his city and help people escape poverty.
@@RorikH lol nah it checks out the bill gates foundation is just a way to pay less taxes, rich people literally do this stuff irl
@@camkretz Bruce Wayne isn't an IRL Rich guy, he's a fictional character absurdly dedicated to fighting crime and saving his city, both legally and illegally.
Is it just me or was the joker's drip impeccable?
It was immaculate
It is. Especially the shot where he's standing over the orange shirt guy.
For real bout to comment that
@@victoriaslater6008 that's batman, just old
@@victoriaslater6008 I screenshot it 😏
Can we talk about the adorable picture of Joker Holding Harley? Finally they look like an honest to god healthy couple. I NEED MORE OF JOKER BEING GOOD TO HARLEY
Eh, I think we're way over that, I mean, yeah, it's a nice idea, "he turns his life around and leaves his abussive tendencies behind", but you can't un-abuse a person, and this person does not need to remain to give you a second chance, the christian idea of redemption isn't realistic, as it requires someone to make their change explicit, as if one changing without it ever being known wasn't as valid as making such change known, Joker could change, become loving and kind, but Harley doesn't need to be there all the way to validate him, she doesn't owe Joker her forgiveness, she can go her whole life hating Joker, or at least the Joker he used to be, for what he did to her, and it wouldn't invalidate his turn-around at all. forgiveness shouldn't be a cleaning of the slate, the erasure of history and forgeting the missdeeds, but the creation of a new one, resentment and compassion can co-exist, indeed, I believe they're stronger this way.
@@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 >the Christian idea of redemption isn't realistic
How so? It is the most ideal concept of redemption when it comes to morality because it takes care of both the wrong done and any residue of it in any form including memory. Of course, people don't need to give you a second chance, and if you want to go by Christian ideals then you should believe that it is God that ultimately provides forgiveness, whether others are willing to forgive you or not. However, it is still a great moral achievement to receive validation through direct forgiveness from the people you've wronged, especially if they are close to you.
You can't say that "the Christian idea of redemption is unrealistic" because it happens more often and commonly than you think in real life. It's just less appealing or satisfying because most people want a murderer/rapist/thief/arsonist/criminal to live with a certain amount of guilt for the rest of their life, but they can't be reminded of that guilt if they're completely forgiven. But logical morality doesn't care about your feelings because what's right is necessary, not satisfying.
I like that Harley is married to Bruce in this comic, that's way better then Harley with Joker.
@@jackmichael2442 OH this doctor says it's okay to change my gender like bro you are literally as delusional as the rest of the lunacy that is the west
@@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 it ain’t that deep 💀
The part where Batman makes the rich richer is revealed that it’s actually Bruce who pays for all the damages done, and not the taxpayers.
Tax write off.
Thank you. It's a really good comic that portrays a lot of elements and in the beginning you feel like Batman is the bad guy but you discover more throughout
@@SouLofthegroup how do you think tax write offs work exactly?
@@andropovneveyevich9157 and that Joker was doing a few corrupt things to fix Gotham
What's the name of the background music?
Sheesh Joker with that Police drip in the beginning hits hard yo 🥶
He looks so clean in that
WHY does he look like a k-pop idol with those long ass lashes!????
@@allankanegalian6401 you're acting like hairy men don't have the most luscious lashes
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The idea of Batman making the rich richer comes from the part where it was Bruce Wayne who payed for the reconstruction and got a tax write-off. In this case it is actually a good thing because it keeps tax low for the inhabitants of the city AND Bruce Wayne doesn't actually get richer through this.
When a 'tax write-off' makes a person richer it usually involves paying like $10k to an artist to make a painting and then have it valued at $1M+. They would then donate it to a public organisation in order to get a tax write-off of equivalent value. So they would make $990k more than if they hadn't done so.
Bruce Wayne also runs multiple non-profit hospitals, schools etc and does a lot of charitable work and is really respected in Gotham.
Ngl I like the image of joker in police gears at the beginning of the clip, he look so damn well
“Takes medication” Queue the scene where bats shoves a whole bottle of pills down his throat forcing him to be sane
How's he not dead-
@@crystalthunderheart8895 he went into a coma if I remember correctly
yikes
Fr tho. I was like "takes medication is an interesting way of sugar coating he nearly killed the joker by shoving pills down his throat" lmao
I remember an "old" Batman comic (15-20 years ago?) where Batman and Catwoman were partners in crime and Dick Grayson was their child, but in that universe, Joker was a sane detective that was trying to track down the crime duo.
Do you remember the name?
You remember the name ? Looks interesting 🔥
Leaving a comment incase someone says the name
Catwoman Annual #3, Issue from July 1996
Apparently it's set in the Legends of the Dead Earth Storyline.
Took me about 20 minutes to find it due to the newer 2022 sane Joker comic came out, clogging up the search results.
@@Battleguild thanks so much i appreciate it bro 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💙💙
Joker really took "take the meds" to a whole new level
Can I just say that the art is gorgeous and that I absolutely love the unique artstyle?
totally agree this looks so good
batman's inability to kill is the most damaging part of the whole of Gotham structure. villains escaping repeatedly mean that batman's moral conceit is doing more damage
But that's not an issue with Batman's morality, it's an issue with the prison system and reformation system for convicts. Batman doesn't kill because if he were to he'd snap, and nothing would hold him back from becoming a villain like the others. The real issue in Gotham is of course the poor infrastructure, but watching Bruce Wayne become a politician to make actual change wouldn't be as fun, I suppose.
@@gwenethp511 he knows what he is doing is futile, he knows it won't stop, killing the scarecrow would have been far far better for the world he inhabits, the joker after crippling Barbara and orchestrating her sexual assault. There are several others as well where EVERY DEATH they cause after their second escape can be laid on his hands. there's a reason shooting fleeing felons is a moral good.
@@gwenethp511 This. Also Gotham is canonically cursed. Even if Batman's rogues did die, others would likely take their place.
@@danielyoungblood3931 so what's the point then ???
@@spunkymaniac9312 That’s the point though.It’s the same with characters like Punisher and Red Hood.To them it’s all about keeping the game going not wiping out all of crime.Obviously the saying of “crime will never end” is the truth.The point of being so hallow and empty due to the continuous cycle of crime not stopping and constantly occurring over again
"He's still in there, Harley. Laughting, lurking in the shadows. He wants me to lose."
"I guess he did a number on the both of us."
Is it just me or that the jokers face with no make up has beautiful eyelashes? 😳
White Knight is one of my most favorite comic series I just fucking love it so much. Reading a batman world start, and end is just satisfying.
“Rich get richer” BOOK OF REASONS BOOK OF REASONS BOOK OF REASONS…
webcomic of logic
manga of thought
anthology of causations
text of explanations
Can somebody explain to me what he's talking about?
Im curious as to what your comic collection looks like you should make a short of it
1k likes and no comments? Lemme fix that
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Me too.
About how many comics do you think he has?
I wonder if he has like 100 or more or he has just 5 or something.
I think I have bout 26 and they are ancient. A few are from the 1980s.
I think they are worth something.
The guy spouts the dumbass narrative of “uhh durr Batman is actually an oppressive rich billionaire who beats up innocent people and never uses his money to help anyone”. He clearly has 0 comics
Are we not gonna talk about how drippy joker is because DAMNNN CUZ
This entire time I was waiting for the song to say “Savesta”
I really like stories like this because they give Gotham more complexity and make it feel less like a static relationship place where the story is happening it’s one of the things I liked about batwoman it made Gotham feel realer
Batman: "well no shit. I really can't just get a real job. . . . I don't think vigilante, trained by ninjas, and never had a job experience is a good look for a resume."
I think he can put ownership of Wayne industries is a good resume
Bruce had a phd in like damn near everything by 26, he’s gonna be alright
@@MoonFallSlump Except for liberal arts and gender studies 😂😂😂 truly useless degrees
Did this guy forget batman is the owner of Wayne enterprises?
You get an A for effort 👌
"You see Barbara Batman likes to pretend to be a hero but he's not, he's not about saving the innocent he's about punishing the guilty"
Always thought that quote was bogus, Batman clearly cares about saving people and rehabilitating the criminals.
@@blackanimelover18 Yet he barely ever avoids recidivism amongst the criminals he captures.
Locks them up and moves on to the next, leaving it to Arkham, knowing it'll fail when he could spend some time in the batcave thinking of ways to set them straight once they're locked up instead of only when they're on the loose.
@XCapedEdits Yes I have, now what?
Name me 5 comics that centre around him rehabilitating criminals rather than incarcerating them then.
@XCapedEdits damn
@@astrodeath1322 I always this, at what cost to innocent lives? How many innocent people die before said rehabilitation is achieved. He proven he'll try to reform a person who nukes a city. That to me said he'll let millions of innocent people die than do what is truly necessary. That to me seem infinitely more evil to me.
The fact Bruce and Harley got married in the extended TL of white knight just made it that much better, and Jackie, the female twin of Harley and Jokers kids is one of the most interesting parts of those books
Joker when society needs him
Edit: "Mom! I am famous now!"
This says a lot about society
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Hey I have the same pfp on another acount
Your trash views are detrimental to society
Finally, you mentioned this story! This is my favorite stand alone story in the Batman lore, tbh. Joker still killed many innocent people and tortured Jason Todd tho. Jack has a point, but it doesn't excuse the Joker's actions.
Also, the art style was on-fire. The Nightwing here gives me 2003's Teen Titans' Nightwing vibes lol.
(SPOILERS just in case you aren't aware yet)
I also love the tragedy of Jack Napier and Harlene Quinzel's love story here. I feel like it should be appreciated more because she loved him as Jack and continued despite what happened (even from afar). She organized everything for him. The fact that they still married out of love before he turns back is just beautiful yet tragic.
Fr it's so good
Dang spoiler alert lol.
@@Salt-Oil I'm so sorry about that lol. I expected everyone would be familiar with it before watching the video😅😂. My apologies!
Can we talk about the sound of this clip its bangin
What is the sound
The song
What song is it?
@@cyrusomega4871 swerved it - yeat
@@Im-bored swerved it - yeat
Ayo joker looks clean as hell wtf 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Batman was always been a misunderstood hero because of his vigilantism. The reason why he's so adamant about not killing people even if they rightfully deserve it is because in his own eyes he's never really the one that will call the shots, he's just there to ensure people are Brough to justice and to have a 2nd shot in life.
"When you can do the things that I can, but you don’t, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you."
-Peter Parker
2nd shot in life wtf. Batman has put away his rogues 10 times over and they just escape and start killing again. Bro just too dumb to see they wont change lmao. One dead clown vs thousands hmmmm..
Batman is well within his means to eradicate at least 30-40% of all crime in Gotham by investing millions of dollar into the prison/mental health system. He fights for change knowing it will never happen, he just wants to punish himself and the criminals around him without ever helping them.
Well, that and that he'll go off the deep end as stated in Batman: Under the Red Hood
@@mattmurdog7590 one theory I subscribe to is that Batman's insane, and he knows it. Did you read Batman Year One? He was basically praying to his father. The only way he can be sure he's doing the right thing is to follow a strict code.
Bro the jack Napier figure by McFarlane is so FIRE
Agreed. So is the White Knight Batman they did
@@danielyoungblood3931 I'm gonna get that next. Rn I got that jack Napier one and the speeding bullets Batman
I'm broke because I've had to spend hundreds of dollars on gas traveling to different stores trying to find the comedian from the 3 jokers
@@Rivers_Cuomo_From_Weezer you'll get him one day lmao
I wish there was someone in between. Who has all the best effects of both and none of the bad effects.
Is it just me or is the joker in this comic like really hot
My only complaint is how the series has incredibly inconsistent characters.
It painted batman as evil. Even if they've shown him care for Alfred according to Nightwing batman never came to him when he was at his worst or when he tried to run away, Alfred did. Which completely contradicts batman's entire character because the whole point was that he adopted Grayson to help him heal,batman is not a psychopath he understands human emotion perfectly but for some reason in the comic series he acted like no one has any emotion. And his actions were dumber than Tony's confession about being iron man, Bruce would be HAPPY that Gotham is safe, that joker is cured, he would be treating him like he treated dent in the white knight but here he has a single compassionate moment and that's it, then there's James Gordon who is a corrupt cop, even though he's supposed to be batman's partner BECAUSE he's not corrupt.
And more importantly:
Batman locked up penguin,black mask, Deathstroke, bane all of these are Rich people batman in year 1 literally becomes a Boogeyman for the rich people and in this comic it's like he's a completely different person. Don't even get me on Nightwing becoming Jason Todd.
The highlight of the comic is joker, and Harley who are maybe the only consistent and well written characters EXCEPT when jack Napier defeated batman in a fist fight, that scene couldn't be dumber.
I am pretty sure the Joker was one of those rich ass holes too(not before he turned tho, by all accounts he was dirt poor at that point). He was the head of a criminal empire and everything.
@@lazarus8018 joker was rich when he was the joker, that's true though argument could be made that he made the crimes to keep his money when batman is taking that away
Facts he goes for being beaten by batman to beating batman in a fist fight nah. And Robin was taking in by batman because he was in a similar position to him and did not want he to become like him Robin was to be a better man then Batman and Bruce not like him
@@Lord-Weasel IDK if grayson is a better man than batman but he's for sure much more optimistic. also batman tried to make grayson a happier and more positive person, to give him a life not of suffering but geniune hapiness. but this comic seem to fail in the robins's aspect.
It didn't paint him as evil, at the start he was furious and full of hatred towards Joker, this is amplified by Batman believing Joker killed Bruce's first son. He'd reached a breaking point at the start of the comic and just started whailing on Joker without mercy, Bruce was so against him being mayor *because* of who he was, he couldn't help but feel like it was nothing more than another trick and was angry that everyone still supported him despite it. Also because Jack was out to take down Batman and accused of a lot of shit, and Gordon isn't a corrupt cop... don't really know where you got that part from
Their doing this story line in the Harley Quinn show 😩✋🏽
YO MAN THAT BGM IS LIT I NEED IT
Yeah, me too
Never knew that they will make a comic about what if the joker was the good guy and nice short :]
"The rich get richer" The Bat-mobile won't pay for itself
I love the concept of looking at the same story from different aspects. It gives a lot of understanding to the character development & narratives regarding it.
Still Huge Batman Fan thou 🖤🦇
This was the best comic book I read tbh. I love it
This us my favorite comic and version of the joker if all time
The art style is phenomenal, I might give it a read :D
That is impossible. That makes the Joker the must incorruptible person in the world. Props to him
I love when shows and comics ask questions like these, it puts everything into perspective and it’s why I love shows like door
Amazing comics great reimagining of the Batman mythos
Damn…now I’m torn, I always saw the joker as a psychopath which to be fair he is but I never knew that there was a comic series about him actually being a good guy, that’s nuts
You can still see him as both, since this is just in alternate universe.
@@danmakes2497 I mean I get that but it just clicked with me that both Batman and the joker are just human so the joker can change about as easily as Batman can, although for him it would be harder due to sociopathy…but…then again we have drugs that can be taken to lessen psychopathic tendencies (I believe) which is exactly what happened in this alternate universe comic
I mean the whole point at the end it’s that Batman is right just going about it a weird way.
I think he was a superhero in one book.
It's a morally grey type of story and that's what so great about it.
This needs a Movie or a Series. Used to read it online but bought a physical copy just because.
Not the hero it deserves, but the hero it needs
This proves to me once more that most of the people get crippled by a classic hero figure. Their mind isn’t capable of proceeding that there’s a person who unlike them has no bad or selfish intentions. that’s why they are hero’s and it’s mostly not a problem until they are also humans. Then people will start to admire them, then compare to them, then fail and get frustrated over time and finally reject them.
They go as far as to distort the heroes whole identity until he’s evil and their brains subconsciously says „finally..peace“.
Same procedure as in „cute aggressions“
Song: Swerved it (Edited Audio)
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The reason the story was so good bc the Arthur/Artist Sean Gordon Murphy had help from Scott Synder since they're good friends. Synder made a amazing batman series in the past. Plus, they're made a mini series together called "The Wake". Highly recommend to read it.
Joker looks badass on here dang! Look at what he's wearing swat vest
Like batman oftens says. He isn't the hero gotham needs but it deserves
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Being able to pin this up the top would be super useful. Cheers
This is one of the my favorite comic book series that I need to get either a animated movie(s) or an animated adaptation cause I doubt they can do some scenes justice in live action.
They will fucking ruin it. So no, the comic format is for the best
It's better to make it a series.
This just shows that with medication, joker can be a hero
Joker with that police bodyarmor reminds me of Joshua Graham
Joker just built different💀💀💀
joker being sane is crazy
Actually it's quite the opposite lol
Having a villain become a hero is really bad for the villains because the new hero knows their playbook, how they think, and so on.
In the main comics Bruce basically funds the entirety of Gotham. He even one time in the golden age comics wanted people to higher ex crimminals and give them jobs.
I remember Tokyo ghoul when Amon and kaneki where like that,the two sides of the coin. Both were in the correct way in the viewers eyes. The moment the Mangaka removed him and made his less relevant ruined the manga.
I'd say "ruining the manga" is a bit of an overstatement.
@@koriyagay yeah,but his potential was a lot and it got wasted. His last fight with kaneki was the best thing I have ever seen.
Kaneeeekiiii
That coffee
@@motivatedtoscapechildsupport Aamon didn't get removed lol, he's in Re
Yah, my problem with "Batman helping the rick" thing is that that was one artist adding their own canon.
In reality, Batman did a lot of good and the only reason it's not effective is because... well... his story needs to go on.
As Bruce Wayne, he pumps so much money that reasons for crime should go down drastically.
And he took down most organizations so crime should be less.
So why is it still a sh*thole??? Because comics need it to be...
Gotham's crime has too much plot armor..
Right
Most villains in Batman are generally villains for the sake of it. Joker is the bats main nemesis for the simple reason that they feed off each other. There's is nothing Bruce can do to actually stop the super villains of Gotham.
@@AimbotFreak *clears throat*.
*Snap their necks*
Sean Murphy has give us some of the best comic of all time
This sounds alot like the live action show Arrow, I love this type of story and having a longer version of Batman vs Legal Joker would be amazing.
Batman lived long enough to see himself become a villain. By letting a villain live long enough to become a hero
idk why i love this comment so much but it sounds so cool
Read this series. Pretty cool
Any recommendations on where I could read it?
Sometimes they’re too dangerous to be left alive. But the choice to kill or not kill is ultimately yours.
In my headcanon, Batmanning is the smallest part of what Batman actually does. Most of his work is through the Wayne Foundation working with communities, convicts and their families to break the cycle of criminality, and Wayne Enterprises running a program to hire ex-convicts and opening facilities in impoverished areas. The reason Batman doesn't kill is because after he stops a crime, the real work of rehabilitation and opportunity begins.
yeat - swerve. thats the song you’re welcome
Considering reading. Great video
I wouldve never guessed the most badass looking joker would the the good joker
Seeing the Joker sane again in the comics and not in the Harley Quinn series is something I can’t decide if I needed to see or not
Imagine: The white knight vs the batman who laughs
are we comparing a god to a dude on his pills?
"Batman, the white night"
Hold up!
can only hope they make this into a series or film adapt. in my lifetime.
Dame the details is on fire
This comic series made me kinda like a Harley x Bruce ship. Like it was an interesting take, a take that can work of done well
"white knight! Finally a favorite hero I like!" -👴🏻
Also, this story is black booked which means it’s a story not connected to the main universe so it doesn’t ruin any character in a lasting way, though it is still an interesting read. I would also advice reading the long Halloween
DC's saul goodman is pretty cool
I need the background track
This captured the aspect of communism and governmental issues in a way batman is like the last of the crusades during the knights of the templar which they get misunderstood and die by the king for satanism but they weren't satanist as they were supporting the 8th prince of hell 'balance' which is the understanding there needs to be evil along with good.
One of my favorite comic series
Joker gaining moral clarity is cool and all but you can't just sue darkseid or anyone on the justice league and really expect to do much
Joker wasn't the white knight harleen quinzell is Gotham's white night she was the one pulling jacks strings and she made the medicine he used to keep him self sane. The white night of Gotham city is Harley Quinn.
They loosely followed this story in the new Harley Quinn show season 3 it’s actually well done
You're kidding right...
@@helltaker6865
In the Harly Quinn series, Joker has met his greatest foe yet. The racist Karen from the PTA.
@@ajiththomas2465 She ate this man's entire dish, bones and all, in a few minutes. Then she still talked dirty about his son. I refuse to believe that this chick isn't Satan's niece.
This is one of the best Batman spinoff's
Forget Joker (2019), THIS is the plot of a Joker reimagining movie we would all like to see.
That's a poor interpretation of this comic arc, isn't that the one where joker finds out Batman was actually paying for all the damage to Gotham through various channels that all lead back to Wayne industries? Also the same comic where Alfred is dying and batman is begining to lose himself to darkness due to having to face another father figures death? Way to sum it up with "Batman helps the rich get richer"
Where can I read this comic ?
Barnes and noble should have one for sell
Anywhere they sell books or on the dc app
The gray knight. We need that.
Just imagine that he's the in-between keeping the two in synce and not going askew
Ayo the joker is that fancy suit hits hard ngl 🥵
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“Oh boy the white mights are back”-👴🏻
Fun fact: The Joker is actually Bruce's Butler aka Alfred, in one certain comic book, Batman dies and then, Alfred reveals that he was the Joker, the reason why he did this is too make Batman have more foes, and to make him smile, and when Bruce died, he regretted his decisions, and continued with his life in a sad way.
White Knight is one of my fav of all time 💪💪
In batman who laughs
He who laughs pretty much explains that everytime Bruce stopped being batman throughout the multiple versions, he always brought happiness and success to Gotham and himself
skipped over Batman force feeding him the meds without knowing what they were
One of the best Batman comic I have ever read.
The joker's jacket in the starting said Great Teacher Onizuka